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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, what's your name?

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Speaker 3: Dan?

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Speaker 2: Dan? Dan? Where are you calling me from? I said,

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Speaker 2: this is a crazy number.

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Speaker 3: Oh damn, calling from an undisclosed location in Asia.

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Speaker 2: You're in Asia right now?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Well you sound European.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of have family from there.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, so you are a European in

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Speaker 2: an undisclosed part of Asia. Well, we got all right,

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Speaker 2: now that that's out of the way. What's up, Dan?

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Speaker 2: How can I get you today? What do you want

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Speaker 2: to talk about?

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Speaker 3: Well, there was a time, oh my God declared the

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Speaker 3: prophet wildly incarcerated.

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Speaker 2: You got declared a profit while incarcerated? Yes, okay, the

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Speaker 2: floor is yours, Dan?

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Speaker 3: Well, how do I say this? It's I don't know

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Speaker 3: how much of a store I could tell about it,

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Speaker 3: but basically I was, I went homeless, I got detained

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Speaker 3: because of a because of like lack of papers, and

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Speaker 3: someone I ended up almost got deported, but then they

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Speaker 3: got sent to But then while well then while I

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Speaker 3: was like in jail and some of that, I uh,

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Speaker 3: I saw talking about the occult and I would do

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Speaker 3: divinations for the other inmates.

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Speaker 2: You you started a cult while in while in a.

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Speaker 3: Jail, talk about the occult?

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Speaker 2: You talked about the occult? What's the occult?

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Speaker 3: Like I would talk about ghosts, religion, spirituality, mysticism, poltics, philosophy.

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Speaker 2: Were you doing that? Were you doing that? Were you

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Speaker 2: stirring up occult stuff just to fuck around or because

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Speaker 2: you were trying to do.

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Speaker 3: Something because of the red was border tech? Yeah? But

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Speaker 3: well not fucking well, I'm genuinely interested in these topics,

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Speaker 3: which is why I was talking about them. Bolun jail.

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Speaker 2: What can I ask you why you were in jail?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, like I went homeless, and I did not

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Speaker 3: and I did not get any like I I basically

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Speaker 3: got almost got deported, and I got a dispute with someone.

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Speaker 2: You got in a dispute with someone, Yeah, do you? You

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Speaker 2: don't have to tell me if you don't want to.

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Speaker 2: It's your it's your business, it's your life.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm not gonna say that. But but but

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Speaker 3: but because of that and because of the lack of paper.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how long were you incarcerated for?

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Speaker 3: Two weeks?

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Speaker 2: Two weeks? Okay? And so you're incarcerated in a. It

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Speaker 2: was this in Asia, Europe, Asia, all right, So you're

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Speaker 2: incarcerated in an undisclosed place in Asia, not North Korea

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Speaker 2: because that would have been longer than two weeks. So

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Speaker 2: we narrowed it down and you start. You're in jail

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Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, what would be fun right

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Speaker 2: now is to start riling up the inmates by talking

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Speaker 2: about aliens and shit. So you're giving speeches, you're standing

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Speaker 2: on a soapbox, you're talking about the occult, and then

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Speaker 2: what happens.

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Speaker 3: Well, long story short, this which kid did this well

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Speaker 3: to be the given idea that meets There was this gangster,

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Speaker 3: there was this which kid that, there was this army

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Speaker 3: dude on drug charges, there was this what else. I

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Speaker 3: can't remember all of them. There's this thief and there

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Speaker 3: was I can't remember all of them, but basically two

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Speaker 3: of them declared me a profit after I did some

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Speaker 3: divinations for them where I willed dice to whattell the

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Speaker 3: futures and what else. So it's been a while, so

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Speaker 3: you roll.

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Speaker 2: The dice and you predicted what the dice would land on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, one of the inmates got out quickly, so

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Speaker 3: that kind of added fuel to the fire of my

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Speaker 3: reputation to speak and and then I and then I'm

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Speaker 3: not in trouble remembering what else happened. There's something else.

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Speaker 2: You believe that you are a profit.

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Speaker 3: Honestly know, I'm a magician.

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Speaker 2: I guess you're a magician. Okay, that's better, honestly better

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Speaker 2: than being a prophet. I feel like, uh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: feel like magicians make more money than profits, like every money.

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Speaker 3: For me, it's just about the adventures.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's not about the money. I know you're in.

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Speaker 2: I know nobody gets in the magic for the money.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying there's more magicians doing residencies in Las

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well okay, so this is a low long How long

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Speaker 3: Oh? This was how doing? Like this was four three,

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Speaker 2: And are you still homeless?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I've been homeless two or three time since then.

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Speaker 3: But I'm curing, not almost.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good good man. What do you how's life?

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Speaker 3: Life's been pretty good. I'm just figuring out what to do,

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Speaker 3: like where to take my direction in my life. I

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Speaker 3: have my goals. It's just a matter of finding out

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Speaker 2: Tell me what the goals are.

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Speaker 3: Well, basically, I want to spread my values. I want

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Speaker 3: to help those who help me. I want to hurt

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Speaker 3: those hurt me. And I want to find a place

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Speaker 2: Okay, some of those sounded a little property, which is good.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, I guess it's good. Is

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Speaker 2: undisclosed location in Asia not your home?

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Speaker 3: It is my home, but doesn't feel like my home woes?

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Speaker 3: That makes sense?

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Speaker 2: That does make sense, That does make sense. What do

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Speaker 2: you do for work now?

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Speaker 3: Right now? They just do all jobs?

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Speaker 2: Do you have friends and family in this undisclosed place

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Okay? And are they people you met when you moved there?

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Speaker 2: Are they folks who also came from whatever European country

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Speaker 3: Of column, made a little bit of column?

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Speaker 2: Be cool, cool, cool cool? So all right, you want

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Speaker 2: to help those who helped you, hurt those who hurt you,

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Speaker 2: and spread your message at home? Okay? What what ideas

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Speaker 2: have you came up with for how you you want

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Speaker 2: to do this? What? What vehicles will these desires you know? Take?

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Speaker 3: Well? I tried talking to people one on one on

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Speaker 3: the street and I managed to convert five people that way,

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Speaker 3: and like a couple a couple of times, I tried

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Speaker 3: UFO siting group that hasn't worked out. And I and

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Speaker 3: the last time I tried to chest in the in

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Speaker 3: I tried to do atual and that didn't end up.

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Speaker 2: Well, have you tried doing like Airbnb experience or group

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Speaker 2: on or something where it's like, you know, get converted

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Speaker 2: to an occult? I feel like that's an experienced people

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Speaker 2: would sign up for on those websites.

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Speaker 3: Good point. I have to find the equivalent of one

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Speaker 3: in my area. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You said you were converted. What are you converting people

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Speaker 2: to to?

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Speaker 3: My values?

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Speaker 2: What are your values?

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Speaker 3: My values are basically freedom and well that's basically it's

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Speaker 3: just freedom. I want. I want people to be to

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Speaker 3: have the strength and then to go after what they

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Speaker 3: truly want in life. Okay, Like as like so many

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Speaker 3: people like we we we get to before we we

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Speaker 3: don't really answer what do we truly want life? Whether

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Speaker 3: that be good or bad? Mutual, crazy, mundane and whatever

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Speaker 3: it is, you can do it, all of you, including you,

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Speaker 3: as you've already know what.

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Speaker 2: I like that message. I'm curious what it has to

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Speaker 2: do with haunted houses.

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Speaker 3: Or basically it's like it's basically I basically converted into

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Speaker 3: a spiritual freedom sot of way. But to show them

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Speaker 3: that the spiritual freedom has to cause paranormal phenomena as

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Speaker 3: best as I can does that makes sense with the

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Speaker 3: imagine spiritual libertarism, the spiritu anarchy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it doesn't make sense, but I want to understand.

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Speaker 2: You need to show people a haunted house to get

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Speaker 2: them to believe in freedom.

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Speaker 3: I need to show people, for not honked phenomenal planmal phenomenon,

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Speaker 3: the hot house to get them to believe in freedom.

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Speaker 2: Basically, why.

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Speaker 3: So that so that they so that to show them

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Speaker 3: like how reality is much more valuable than you think,

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Speaker 3: and to get them to accept the message, accept the value,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw this out there, and I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: You're doing your own thing here, you spread your own message.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, infect your message with

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Speaker 2: my message. You know, I don't want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: step on your toes, but can I can? I can?

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Speaker 2: I for a thought, And it's okay if you think

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Speaker 2: it's a dick thought, but I just want to offer a.

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Speaker 3: Thought you also thought. That's okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: I can people not believe in freedom? Uh within like

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Speaker 2: I still't understand why people need to see paranormal ship

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Speaker 3: They can believe freedom, regular ass reality. The reason, the reason,

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Speaker 3: the reason, I'm doing that because I've made freedom. Why

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Speaker 2: Okay? So freedom is your religion and so all right,

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Speaker 2: so you're doing the profit thing just by showing people

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Speaker 2: the prophet. You're the haunted House prophet.

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Speaker 3: I guess, calling Farfard magician or whatever, and I'm just

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Speaker 2: You guess how many people are following you?

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Speaker 3: Only five up into only five in real life up

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Speaker 3: until that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good. You have five like you, like you

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Speaker 2: would say with all sincerity that you have five disciples.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like it's and it's pretty I know it's slow numbers,

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Speaker 3: but it's actually pretty hot warming that they did that,

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Speaker 3: Like it's like if you know the area was in

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Speaker 3: which I'm not getting disclosed it even getting serious trouble for.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I don't know. Wall you can get on.

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Speaker 2: You can get in trouble for having disciples, for.

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Speaker 3: Having having alternative spirituality, alternative religions, you in China, something

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Speaker 3: like that. I guess you could say.

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh, well, so these people there are these disciples

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Speaker 2: that you have, what do how how are they disciples?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: What do they do? They give you money? Do they

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Speaker 2: like wear a T shirt with your face on it?

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Speaker 2: How do they disciple you? How do they how do

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Speaker 2: you tell that they are your disciples? What do they

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Speaker 2: have to do? Do they have to give you their blood?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? How do they what? What's Yeah? What's

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Speaker 2: the benchmark for converted?

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Speaker 3: The bench one? Because a little bit to accept the

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Speaker 3: text I give them to practice as production to to

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Speaker 3: basically like as is to cause to cause chaos and

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Speaker 3: all their lives stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Do they have to have sex with you?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's just check it interesting. Okay, So do

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Speaker 2: you like meet up with these five disciples ever? Like,

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Speaker 2: do you have like regular meetings?

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Speaker 3: Oh? There's there's a there's a there's two files on

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Speaker 3: There's two files with pilot babea dot org that we uploaded.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this motherfucker is not on Facebook or Instagram.

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Speaker 2: You're on the pirate Bay, yes, okay, and so on

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Speaker 2: I don't? I mean, I don't want to get you

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Speaker 3: Okay? So the name of the files. The first file

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Speaker 2: What's what's the first one.

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Speaker 3: Called liber nacles?

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Speaker 2: Lebo knock? How do you even spell? How do you

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Speaker 2: Okay, just disclaimer, Uh, Therapy Gecko LLC and partners are

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Speaker 2: And while you're there, I mean you can have you

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Speaker 2: That's kind of cool. You can have you know, an

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Speaker 3: Damn good night. Trust me, you'll love the files.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm definitely the way hold on the way you

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Speaker 2: did an evil laugh after saying you'll love the files

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Speaker 3: I would be careful, but the files themselves are not viruses.

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Speaker 3: The best part is, I wasn't even the one who

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Speaker 3: Yes, if you want to find out who wrote them,

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope this. I hope this works out for you. Man,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks man, which is very sweet you say.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. You welcome you know what you're You're

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. But I hope I also help

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Speaker 2: I'll laugh, you know, Dan, is there anything else you

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Speaker 3: Yes. During my time in prison, I accidentally caused two

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Speaker 2: Later, Dan, shout out to whatever brave soul risks that

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Speaker 2: There's no way I'm going to download him. Well, that

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Speaker 4: Mark?

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Speaker 4: Not much you know? In my text, I basically kind

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: I just said screw it, and I kind of stopped

441
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 4: talking to her.

442
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. That then that kind of happens, Like you'll be

443
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: in a really bad spot and so you'll be talking

444
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: to your therapist and then things will get a little

445
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: bit better and you'll be like, well, I don't ever

446
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: need to do this ever again. M So, do you

447
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: still feel that pain ever? Or are you in a

448
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 2: better spot?

449
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: I'm in a better spot.

450
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: Okay, good, Well that's good to hear. That's uh, that's encouraging.

451
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, honestly, like my life's been up especially,

452
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 4: you know, like okay, go ahead, dingle mother, lie you know,

453
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 4: like I you know, I had to work since I

454
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: was sixteen. That kind of stuff. And but you know,

455
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: but the way that you're funny, that's tough.

456
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 2: But and and look, by the way, I'm just gonna say,

457
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: like again, I'm happy to talk to you about this,

458
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: but the way that and you should talk to a

459
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: real therapist to get their perspective on it, because the

460
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: way that you're talking about all this stuff, you seem

461
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 2: very distressed.

462
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: Mmm.

463
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: Howso do you know? I mean, do you? I mean,

464
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you my observation. Do you do you

465
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: not agree that you seem kind of stressed?

466
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: I'm torn because inside I know how I feel, but

467
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: I understand what's going on. Does that make sense? Like

468
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 4: to what's inside? Like I don't really care, like I'm

469
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 4: living on a dream.

470
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 3: You know.

471
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: It's like, what's your understanding of when you when you

472
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: said when you said, when you said, I understand what's

473
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: going on? What's what's your understanding of what's going on?

474
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: Well? For example, I smoked two packs a day. I

475
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: know I shouldn't, but I love it, you know what

476
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 4: I mean?

477
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: M hm?

478
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: And you know there are varying degrees of that. So

479
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 4: it's like I was saying earlier with my kids, like

480
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 4: I know I could be a better parent. I had

481
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 4: a shitty childhood to a degree, you know, like we

482
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: all have more or less. But uh, I don't know.

483
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, as I watch my life

484
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 4: pass by, watch my kids grow up, you know, it's

485
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 4: like I reflect on all those things where I could

486
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: have done something or been a little bit better, or

487
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: maybe not yelled so much or whatever. And like you said,

488
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: maybe I should talk to somebody. I was hoping, you know,

489
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 4: I could work it out through here, because so hold

490
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: on on me so deep down inside, I don't really care,

491
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: you know, Like I said, I'm living a dream. If

492
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: you know, if I lose seven years from smoking, so what,

493
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 4: you know, I'll have an internal battle going on.

494
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: So so again, I mean, look like I said, I'm

495
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: I'm down to talk to you. I am. I feel

496
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: as though I I should be responsible and tell you

497
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: I am dumb ass, fucking guy in a gecko costume.

498
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: I am not an expert on the brain. I just

499
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: just given you my disclaimer, just giving you my disclaimer,

500
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: and I always recommend talking to a professional. Now that

501
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: I've given you my disclaimer, let's just talk as two

502
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: guys on the phone here. So this is this is

503
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: like a thing, and I kind of get this of like, yeah,

504
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: I know the various ways I like, no, logically, the

505
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: various ways that my life could be better. You know,

506
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: I could stop smoking pot. I could be a better

507
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: dad in this way. I could be a better husband

508
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: in this way. I could be a better person this way.

509
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: Of course, I know I could do this. I could

510
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: do this, I could do this. Of course I have

511
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: the knowledge that I could. Of course that's the easy part.

512
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: But yet you're in your head and you're like, well,

513
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: what's the.

514
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: Point why I live a certain way?

515
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And finding that motivation of why giving a

516
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: shit about taking care of yourself and giving a shit

517
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: about these things is a science that I I mean,

518
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: people study it. That's why I do think you should

519
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: go to see a person. But I mean, anecdotally me personally,

520
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: it's a science that I've attempted to figure out as well,

521
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 2: because it's it's hard. Man, when you've lost your like

522
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: not will to live, but like your will to improve

523
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: or whatever, you're like deep in a fog, you know,

524
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: and let me just throw some shit out there. Anecdotally,

525
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: I've found that so like when I'm in a fog

526
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, like why eat healthier, Why

527
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: go to the gym? Why stop smoking pot? Why just

528
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: work on my career? Why try to nurture my relationship?

529
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: Like why do any of the who gives a shit?

530
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: I found that if I say to myself, let me

531
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: just take a step forward, let me do something, you

532
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: kind of do it and you get a little hit

533
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: of dopamine from that, and then you kind of can

534
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: turn that into some momentum. Right, So, like if you

535
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: go a day without smoking cigarettes and you're like, oh,

536
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: that actually, I actually feel a sense of accomplishment from

537
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: doing that, and then you kind of build momentum off

538
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: of that. Or if you say to yourself, I'm gonna,

539
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: you know, turn off the TV. I'm gonna no phones,

540
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: no computer, no nothing. I'm gonna spend the rest of

541
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: the day or night looking my children in the eye.

542
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, that actually felt good. I I know.

543
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: But he's like, and this is I think, I fucking

544
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: I swear to God, I've learned this over and over

545
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: and over again, and you forget it every time. But

546
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: when you are, when you're in the fog, you have

547
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: no grasp or understanding of how it feels to be

548
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: out of the fog. You really don't, even if you've

549
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: been out of the fog before. The only way to

550
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: actually remember what it feels like to be out of

551
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: the fog is to leave the fog. But yet it's

552
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 2: this weird contradiction because when you're in the fog, you

553
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: have no desire to leave the fog because you're like,

554
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: what's the point. But then when you leave it for

555
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: like a second, when you do one little thing to

556
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: step out of your fog, and you know, you go

557
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: a day without the cigarettes, you take some time to

558
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: be with your kids, you go for a walk, you

559
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: put your phone away, you do the whatever, the thing

560
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: that you were like, well, what's the point of doing

561
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: this fucking thing? Then once you do it, you understand

562
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: the point. You you're not gonna understand the point before

563
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: you do it. That's why you're sitting there like what's

564
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: the point. Once you do it, you remember the point.

565
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 2: So you kind of have to like start building your

566
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: momentum without the motivation, And then it's like that thing

567
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: of like action, like motivation does not precede action, Action

568
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: precedes motivation, you know what I'm talking about. Does any

569
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: of this make sense.

570
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: I understand this, Okay, it really does.

571
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: You know, Like, by the way I'm talking to you,

572
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm no a six pack millionaire with a helicopter, all right,

573
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm doing my fair share of eating pizza for breakfast

574
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: and whatnot too, So this is just how I think

575
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: about it, right, No.

576
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: It totally makes sense. And like you were saying about

577
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 4: the fog, it's you know, I find myself in the

578
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: fog and when I reach out, like, there's no problems,

579
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: you know, except for the realization that I've created a

580
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: whole system around me so that I don't get caught,

581
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: so I don't get in a like a conversation that

582
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 4: leads me to get out of the fog.

583
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: You know.

584
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: Besides maybe this conversation and you know, me talking to

585
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: myself as I'm standing in a you know, in a room.

586
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 2: So I mean we we just we were just talking

587
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: about like, you know, self improvement, motivationable ship that's one thing.

588
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about like like how open do you

589
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: want to be with your wife? That's another thing. Mm hmm.

590
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 4: Do you think I'm Do you think it's bad that

591
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 4: I'm not telling her?

592
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: Well, clearly is it?

593
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 4: I mean, it's part of what feels it.

594
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: But well, it's it's clearly bad, just in just in

595
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: the sense that we can both see that it's bothering you, right.

596
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 4: You know, but maybe that's in my mind the consequence

597
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: of doing something that she wouldn't like if she found out.

598
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: You know, how do you think she would react if

599
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: she found out that you were you haven't been sober

600
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: a day in eight years?

601
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 4: Probably take away access to my money, which is her money.

602
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 4: You know, like I'm truly stay at home, like I'm dependent,

603
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: you know, I guess I could go find a job.

604
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 4: But yeah, so it's like I like, so there's a

605
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 4: little bit more on top of it, because like there

606
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: are consequences that trickle down that make me even more

607
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 4: fearful step out of the thought again.

608
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: But do you feel but do you feel like in

609
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: all right, so you guys have a situation. You guys

610
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: have like a traditional situation where like she goes and

611
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: makes all the money and then you take care of

612
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: the kids. Right, But do you have no sense of

613
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: like pride or motivation? Interns, Like, do you have a

614
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: little thing under your ass that goes like, okay, you

615
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: know I've formed this how long you've been with your wife.

616
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: Seven years.

617
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: Seven years. It's like it's like, and here's the thing,

618
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: especially especially about having kids, because you kind of and

619
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: I don't have kids. I'm I am single and I

620
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: have no kids. But here's my rant is like when

621
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: if you're if you have no kids and you know

622
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: you kind of you can go do whatever you want

623
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: with your life, like fucking go crazy, smoke weed for

624
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: a billion years, do whatever, lived that life. But do

625
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: you have you entered this partnership to start a family

626
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: and your wife is holding up her part of the deal,

627
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: and do you have any like fire under your ass

628
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: of being just of like I gotta hold up my

629
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: end of this deal. Well, and I'm not and I'm

630
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: not saying that to you. I'm not saying that to you.

631
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that to you for you to I don't.

632
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't want you to sit here and like beat

633
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: yourself up and go into a spiral. Okay, it's supposed

634
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: to be motivating, you know, like, let me hold let

635
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: me fucking hold up my end of the deal. You

636
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: know that my wife's out doing whatever she does, she's

637
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 2: working hard, she's holding up her end of the deal.

638
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: Let me hold up my end of the deal.

639
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, honestly, you know, Like and it kind

640
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: of goes back to like me saying earlier, like there's

641
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: the like the real me and then the mask, you know,

642
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: like I know when I'm wearing the mask, I should

643
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 4: you know, care about these things.

644
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as real youth. There's no there.

645
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: You're not living. You're not living a double life. You

646
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: are living your life. There's no double life. There's the

647
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: hormone there is. You are everything. You're all the bad

648
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: things of your life, and you were all the good things.

649
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: And they don't negate each other. They some of the

650
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: some of them interact, some of them don't. It is

651
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: just your messy life. But there's no two lives. This

652
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: is just you as a human being, in all your

653
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: good and all your bad.

654
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: So I guess when when it comes to like am

655
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 4: I able to hold up my share? I'm you know,

656
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: I'm leechy unfortunately, you know, Like I'm not saying, I

657
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 4: don't give in, Like you know, one of my quartents

658
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: is the family, you know, like this is here. What

659
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: do you think about this statement? I tell this to

660
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 4: a lot of people. I'm done I won, you know,

661
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: in terms of my mindset, I've already bred. You know,

662
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: it's like maybe I can get your kids to breeding

663
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: age and hopefully get that. But like, I'm fine if

664
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: I die right now. You know, that's fine, dud.

665
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: But you're not done.

666
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: I know that, you know. But it's hard because it's

667
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 4: a part of me that feels that, you know, I

668
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: gotta get rid of that part of me. I guess.

669
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Why don't you just I seriously, what's your name again?

670
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 4: Mark?

671
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: Mark? First of all, I seriously think you should go

672
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: talk to a therapist who would have better idea because

673
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm a guy in a gecko class. You should go

674
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: talk to heath therapists. But I seriously think, dude, like

675
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 2: the fact that you're like I'm done, I mean.

676
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: You, I mean I don't want to be like done

677
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: like now, like you know, but like you can't an

678
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 4: asteroid hits me. I'm okay with that as long as

679
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: my kids survive, you know, Like yeah, see, like I

680
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 4: can't tell my wife that, you know, I can't. I can't.

681
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: I can't have that conversation with her, you know, Like,

682
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 4: you know, if I get older, then my kids can

683
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 4: really understand me. Like when they're you know, beyond like

684
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: the four or five six age and they're more like eight, nine, ten, eleven.

685
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: Like you know, it's like you're right, I guess I

686
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 4: do need to, you know, find like a life coach

687
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: or something. But like I've been living like this for

688
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 4: well over a decade, you know, just in my mind,

689
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 4: living a life.

690
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you talk to me about but you you

691
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: called me, you're talking about this, You're bothered by it.

692
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: You give a shit. You can pretend like you don't,

693
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: but you're talking. You're give We wouldn't be talking right now.

694
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: That's very fair.

695
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: So like, dude, I just and again I the reason

696
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like I don't try trying to

697
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 2: say yell at people or whatever because I don't. There's

698
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: no it's not productive. There's no reason for you to

699
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: go into a like a self hatred spiral. That's not

700
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: productive for you or your family or anyone. But it's like, look, man,

701
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: like when you wake up tomorrow and you talk to

702
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: your kids, like like put your phone away to try

703
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: just try, just give you, just give yourself a day.

704
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: Just give yourself a day where you're like I'm going today,

705
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: I am going to hold up my end of the deal.

706
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: And like, you know, if if you really do feel

707
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 2: like I've made it, try your best to be grateful

708
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: for whatever is making you feel that way. If it's

709
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: your wife, who's you know, going out and working and

710
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: doing these things out of gratitude for your wife, you

711
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: say to yourself, I'm toady, I'm gonna hold up my

712
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: end of the deal, and try to be a good

713
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: dad even if you even if you fail, even if

714
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: whatever whatever is going on in your in your addiction brain,

715
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: just you can't. You just can't do it. Just if

716
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: you just try, you might even feel good just trying.

717
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: You know.

718
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: That's that's really what I got for you. I think

719
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if any of this was helpful, but

720
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 2: I hope, I seriously, I hope you wake up tomorrow

721
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: morning and you're like, okay, today, let me just try

722
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: to hold up my end of the deal today.

723
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: Fair enough, Thanks for talking.

724
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say that the

725
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go.

726
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 4: Take care of the AI that we're all gonna raize

727
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: very soon. Have a great day.

728
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: Later on, Doug. Soon, sooner or later, our children won't

729
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: need parents because we can just you'll be You'll literally

730
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: it is actually kind of crazy. You'll probably be able

731
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: to just like buy a nannybot like from the fucking

732
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: Jetsons and and the nanny bot will uh just raise

733
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: your kid for you and the crazy dude, the crazy thing.

734
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: Let me talk about AI for a second, just because

735
00:42:54,200 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: he brought it up. Here's the thing AI. It is like, uh,

736
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: it is sometimes in some situations, it's smarter than people

737
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: like AI. I've AI is a better therapist and several

738
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: therapists that I've been to in the past. Uh, it's

739
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: like objective. It's a level like I'll talk to JET,

740
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: I'll talk to chat GPT sometimes, and I've talked to

741
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 2: chat GPT enough that I'm like, you know, what if

742
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: I did die or had to, you know, go away

743
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: for a while, I'd let chat GPT take care of

744
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: my kids. Like it's kind of more dependent. It's like

745
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: self driving cars, like you, I trust self driving cars

746
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: more than like a stoned sixteen year old on the road, right,

747
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: I think I actually would trust an AI and nanny anyway,

748
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: what were we just talking about. Oh, yeah, that guy.

749
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: I hope that does I bro I don't know. I

750
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how that guy's gonna gonna

751
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: kinda fix all that. Is it crazy? I don't know

752
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: if it's brain chemistry or what the hell it is.

753
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: But I hope I hope he tries man, because that

754
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: thing about the fog is real. I've experienced it. I

755
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: actually feel because like I feel out of the fog

756
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: right now because I'm caffeinated and I'm dressed and I'm

757
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 2: talking to people. But dear Lord, I've I've hung out

758
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: in the fog, and when when you're in it, it doesn't

759
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: feel like anything else exists. So I as as as

760
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: as a person who in this very moment and it

761
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: changes moment to moment and be in the fog one

762
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: hour and not in the next. But in this very moment,

763
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: as I feel out of the fog, I will be

764
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: conscious of what it feels like and try to take

765
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: it with me next time I feel in the fog. Anyway, yeah,

766
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: I would let Chatchy bet raise my son.

767
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: All from is he?

768
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: Hello?

769
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: No freaking way?

770
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: What's up?

771
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: Is this the real therapy? Gecko?

772
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: This is Gecko? How is your life going?

773
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: Is he?

774
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: I have called like hundreds of times.

775
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: And here we are on the uh on thee hundred

776
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: and month just goes to show that persistence is uh yeah,

777
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: what's up? Is he hows it gone? I don't know.

778
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: I've always like thought about this moment. I was like,

779
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: what will I say if he ever answers it? Now

780
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say.

781
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give some context of where I'm at

782
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 2: right now. It is I'm recording this at two o'clock

783
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: in the morning because I'm so I'm going to Thailand

784
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 2: in about uh like eight hours or something, and it's

785
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: like twelve hours, like the time difference is like reversed,

786
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: so I'm trying to pull an all nighter. And I

787
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: was like, well, what's gonna how do I do that?

788
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 4: Oh?

789
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: I know what I'll do. I'll stream. But here's another

790
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: thing is when I record these podcasts, you know, typically

791
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: I aim to have my brain functioning at you know,

792
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: as close to it. My brain never really functions at

793
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, but you know, the closer I can

794
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: get to one hundred percent, the better I would say.

795
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: But right now it's two o'clock in the morning, I'm

796
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: gonna say I'm at a good uh oh my god,

797
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I'm at a, I'm at A. I'm

798
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: gonna say I'm at a sixty percent. Actually feel pretty

799
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 2: good right now. I drank a Celsius shout out Celsius

800
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: to drink of Celsius right before I started doing this.

801
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: So if you ever wanted to know what it's like

802
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: to drink two hundred milligrams of caffeine at one o'clock

803
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: in the morning, I'll let you guys know. I mean

804
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: this is I mean, you'll know by just listening to

805
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: my voice. I guess that's where I'm at. You know,

806
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: what's what's what's Where are you at? Is he?

807
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: Then I'm in Minnesota.

808
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: Oh okay, about one, it's.

809
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: Going to go to bed. And then I was like,

810
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: he's live. This is my chance?

811
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: Am I I'm not on the speakerphone, am I?

812
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: No?

813
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: Okay? Why what was I gonna say?

814
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: Oh?

815
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing up so late? Is he?

816
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: Well, like you, I drink Celsius pretty late in the

817
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: day because I was working and now I just can't sleep.

818
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: How late in the day did you drink it?

819
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: I would say about five o'clock.

820
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: Five o'clock. Yeah, they get you. What made you want

821
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: to drink a Celsius at five o'clock.

822
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: Well, I work in HR, and today was a very

823
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: long day of policy. You know, that's super fun stuff,

824
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: and it just strains you.

825
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 2: Why did have what's the worst HR situation you've encountered

826
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: in your years of working HR?

827
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: So, okay, funny story. I work with my mother in

828
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: H in the same company and so i'm her like,

829
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: I'm on the HR team of the same company that

830
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: she works in, and she complained to me about a

831
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: situation that was happening on her team and that I

832
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: had to go to my boss and be like, so

833
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: my mom told me because I also live at home

834
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: with her, So I was like, my mom told me

835
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: this at home. I hate to snitch, but like, they're

836
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: breaking policy. So then I had to be a whole

837
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: case open. Luckily I didn't have to investigate it myself.

838
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: But that was pretty crazy.

839
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: That's so, did your mom get you the job or

840
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: did you get your mom the job? Or was it

841
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: just kind of kiss smiths that you both wind it

842
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 2: up at the same place.

843
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: So she works in like a different part of the

844
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: organization than me, and she made the introduction and I

845
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: had to go through like the whole interview process. I

846
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: think there was definitely a little bit of neptism, But

847
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: I like to tell myself, you know that she was

848
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: really blown away by me.

849
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: Nap it up. That's what I say. Why not? Why not?

850
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: If look, if your dad's the president, then I think

851
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: you should get to be the president too. There was

852
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: a guy who did that. There was a guy that like, George,

853
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: what's this George W. Bush? He is it? George W.

854
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: George HW who's the son?

855
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't know the presidents.

856
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: He napped harder than anyone's ever napped before, because he

857
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: had a genius thought. I have no idea what I'm

858
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: talking about. By the way, it's two o'clock in the morning.

859
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: He he was like, Yo, my dad was the president.

860
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: Why do I Why don't I just fucking they'll be

861
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: the president? And you know, people some people think, you know,

862
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: that's a bad idea. That's like from uh when there

863
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: were kings and stuff and the king would have a

864
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: son and the son was automatically the next king, whether

865
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 2: or not he was going to be a shitty king.

866
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: But he was like, Yo, they did that once, why

867
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: don't we Why don't we just do it again? I'll

868
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: just be the president because my dad was the president. Again,

869
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. But

870
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: you know, I say, nep, if you can nap, NEP.

871
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 2: If your dad, uh you know rights, if your dad

872
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 2: is George Lucas, fucking go go star in the next

873
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: Star Wars, why not just do it? You know? I mean, uh,

874
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: you know, my my dad, Well, my dad's a bankruptcy

875
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: lawyer and my mom is uh is also a lawyer,

876
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 2: and so you know, they got me this job being

877
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: a fake therapist Gecko. No, they didn't they Uh, I

878
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: mean I got I napped a little bit. I napped

879
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: a little bit. I had a job working for my

880
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 2: dad's law firm YouTube channel where I would edit videos

881
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: for him. So my dad, I guess, he got me

882
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: my first editing job at his law firm. So I nepped,

883
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: go ahead and nep, why not?

884
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

885
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: So what what do you what do you want to

886
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 2: do with your life? Dude?

887
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I just turned twenty one and

888
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: graduated college, and I just like am in that phase

889
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: where there's some people having babies, some people getting married,

890
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: and I just got to drink legally, So trying to

891
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: figure it out.

892
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: Who the hell's your twenty one you said, Yeah, who

893
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 2: the hell's having babies at twenty one? That sounds awful.

894
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: So many people, there's so many people. The people that

895
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: you think shouldn't have babies are always the ones popping

896
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: them out crazy.

897
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I think. Yeah, I mean, having

898
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: a kid at twenty one is probably it's probably not

899
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: a good idea. But what what the fuck do I

900
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: know about how other people should live their lives? I

901
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: really mean that, I really do. Are you saying that

902
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: you want to have a child?

903
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

904
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: God, no, not right now?

905
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: God?

906
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, what do you What do you hope for

907
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: the future.

908
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: I hope to own a couple of goats and some cows.

909
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: Are you serious?

910
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that's what I'd be happy doing for

911
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: the rest of my life.

912
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: How much is a goat?

913
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: I have no clue.

914
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is to you? I mean, okay,

915
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: so you want one goat? And like, let's I mean,

916
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: I want to if I could just do something with

917
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: you right now that you know, I feel like I

918
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: want I want you to get something out of this

919
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: phone call. Why don't we you know this is how

920
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: we make part of I think you got to make

921
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: your goals defined an actual right, So I mean, let's

922
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: get into it. You want how many what do you want?

923
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: You want? One goat, two goats? How many goats?

924
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: I would say two goats because I think they get lonely,

925
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: So you have to have two?

926
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 2: All right? Two goats? And how many cows?

927
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: I would say one because they're kind of big. I

928
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: don't know if I can really do two of them.

929
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: Do cows not get lonely?

930
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: They might, but they'll have me, So all right, So two.

931
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: Goats, one cow? And then where are you gonna put

932
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers? Do you have a Do you have a house?

933
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: Well? I live in the Midwest, and there's a lot

934
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: of land over here, so I just figured to pick

935
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: something up and like build a shed.

936
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going on Google right now. How much

937
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: is a goat? All right? All right? The price of

938
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: a goat can vary from seventy five dollars bro you

939
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: can get bro. You can get a goat for four

940
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: hundred dollars.

941
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: I can buy so many goats, all right, so.

942
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: Eight hundred all right? I'm I'm hey, hold on, is he?

943
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: I'm I know you're joking. Around. But I'm being dead

944
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: serious about this right now. I really am, because I

945
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: because you're telling me this is your life dream. And

946
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here, I'm on the computer Google and how

947
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: much goats are? And I want this to be a

948
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: thing where you realize that you actually can achieve your

949
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 2: dream by only saving you know, all right? Are you

950
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: with me on this?

951
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: I am with you on it?

952
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: Okay? All right? So all right, so you need eight

953
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: hundred bucks to get two goats? All right? How much

954
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 2: is a cow? Cow is a little more expensive. Cow

955
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: is nine hundred dollars. So you need to save seventeen

956
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: hundred dollars to achieve your life's goal. That's crazy, that's crazy.

957
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: You could do that. See you can see this is

958
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: the thing. Everyone thinks that their goals are are out

959
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: of reach. But you know what takes the time to

960
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: you know, google, google them?

961
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: So I just need to google more.

962
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: Well is he you said your name was?

963
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh? Wait, can you give me a name? I

964
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: know you give everyone names because you forget them and

965
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: then you remembered mine, and I'm kind of let down

966
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: by that, So I would like you to give me

967
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: a name of.

968
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to give you a name. You

969
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: I remembered your name. Dang.

970
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: The one time.

971
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 2: I feel like, uh, well, is there anything you wanted

972
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: to actually talk about?

973
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: No, I just I never thought you'd actually answer, so

974
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: I never like prepared anything to talk about. So this

975
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: is just like my goal.

976
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 3: This is a goal.

977
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: It's been completed now, so thank you.

978
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: Well, all right, seventeen hundred bucks between you and your goal.

979
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: All you got it? You can you can save that

980
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 2: with your you know, uh hr nippie money. You can

981
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: get there, definitely, all right? Send me send me a

982
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: picture of the goat, or don't. I don't have enough spot.

983
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't have I don't have a lot of space

984
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: on my phone anymore. I I've been saving uh uh

985
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: too many Uh I've been I've been downloading a lot

986
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: of games. So I don't have a space on my phone.

987
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: So actually, don't send me a picture of the goat?

988
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: Is he?

989
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 2: Is there anything else?

990
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 3: Who?

991
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 2: I say to the people of the computer before we.

992
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: Go, go buy more goats?

993
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: Take care Doug by bye, Hello folks, it's Lyle here.

994
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,640
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1005
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: Well? Did you get my tags? Yeah?

1006
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: Fuck the text. Let's we're talking right now. We don't

1007
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: need to text, all.

1008
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: Right, man? Well, I work people who are blind, and

1009
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: you know it's all good.

1010
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: Wait, okay, I know I just said fuck the text.

1011
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: But in the text you said that you were blind.

1012
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: But now you're saying, oh, okay, you see, I thought

1013
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: you just worked with people who are I thought you

1014
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: were saying that you merely worked with people who were blind.

1015
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 3: I do.

1016
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: You are literally the blind leading the blind? Yes, that's funny.

1017
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 3: In a weird kind of fucked up type of way.

1018
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1022
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Speaker 2: I have nothing else to say. Never goes on the line,

1023
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Speaker 2: taking your phone calls. Every night, Therapy goes to his side.

1024
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Speaker 4: But he's not ready.

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