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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Project Nil.

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Speaker 3: Danny d Dad Danny di Bernadinas, who is the athletic

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Speaker 3: director of Penn Charter High School, one of the oldest

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Speaker 3: high schools in the country. Uh outside Philadelphia. I'm Anthony

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Speaker 3: Gargano of the Fellas and Uh, this is Project NIL.

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Speaker 3: Lots to get into this week because it's not just

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Speaker 3: about college headlines and about recruits or a transfer.

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Speaker 2: This is about the structure.

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Speaker 3: When the president of Ohio State says the current NIL

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Speaker 3: model is not sustainable over the next three years, Uh,

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Speaker 3: that's just our casual commentary. That's one of the most

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Speaker 3: powerful athletic departments in the country signaling concern. At the

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Speaker 3: same time, Sacramento State is going to spend twenty three

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Speaker 3: million dollars to move up into the FBS and join

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Speaker 3: MAC a little maction that is expansion during uncertainty. We're

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Speaker 3: seeing enforcement evolve in high profile programs. We're now watching

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Speaker 3: former athletes attempt to re enter college basketball at twenty

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Speaker 3: five years old. This isn't chaos. It's called transformation. We

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Speaker 3: break all that down. Good morning, Danny D.

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Because how we doing?

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Speaker 2: Brother?

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Speaker 3: Hey, before we start, let me just laund you because

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Speaker 3: I think the country would love to hear this. It's

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Speaker 3: a great story. So in Philadelphia, we have a lot

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Speaker 3: of great venues.

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Speaker 2: We have an old venue. It's really cool.

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Speaker 3: It's called the Pleastra and it's on the University of

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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania's campus and it's one of the great great venues

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Speaker 3: of all time.

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Speaker 4: Like it just reeks the cathedral.

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Speaker 3: An Yes, that's exactly what it is. It's cathedral. It's

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Speaker 3: that old basketball feeling, the Polestra, and most sports.

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Speaker 2: Fans know it.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Danny D holds one of the most sought after tickets.

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Speaker 3: He holds one of the event that it became so

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Speaker 3: big and really speaks to the entire area.

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Speaker 2: So it's the Catholic League.

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Speaker 3: Semifinals in playoffs and they hold it to Polestra and

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Speaker 3: it's just become a huge thing.

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Speaker 2: It's always been.

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Speaker 3: It's been it's been the rock star of basketball events.

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Speaker 3: It's got more energy in that building than the five

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Speaker 3: or the six city schools and the pro basketball team.

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Speaker 3: It's a really cool event and it's Sunday's the final.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really special event. It's the Philadelphia Catholic

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Speaker 4: League Basketball Final four and championships. It's you know, I

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Speaker 4: think it's one of the top five leagues in the country.

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Speaker 4: Pretty much every year, tons of Division one talent go

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Speaker 4: through it. And yeah, Philadelphia and the and you know,

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Speaker 4: surrounding areas really come out and show.

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Speaker 2: Up for it.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a special event. They sell out the

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Speaker 4: game for Sunday, has been sold out since early yesterday morning.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's nine thousand people coming to a

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Speaker 4: who knows what it could be. It could be thirteen thousand, right,

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Speaker 4: but the place holds nine to the plusure is a

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Speaker 4: really historic venue. And I love the stat. Every year,

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Speaker 4: Conference championships and attendance numbers, and it usually finishes around seventh,

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Speaker 4: so it's behind the ACC the Big East, But it

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Speaker 4: would be the seventh largest championship of any college championship

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Speaker 4: games and attendance wise every year in the country, which

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's fantastic, dude, And it's like a who too, uh?

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Speaker 3: In basketball, I know last year, Jason Tatum was in

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Speaker 3: what's this about that he went to the semifinal game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were very lucky to have him stop by.

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Speaker 4: He was in town with the Celtics. They were playing

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Speaker 4: we were lucky to have him. And yeah, he thought

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's a who's who in college basketball. If they're off,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's throughout the years. I mean it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know because the league most years will

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Speaker 4: but be also because it's truly talent, so many talented

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm happy to just be a part of

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Speaker 4: it over the years, and you know.

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Speaker 3: They don't don't be modest. I mean you really at

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Speaker 3: your event. I know this year you're you're more of

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Speaker 3: a just in helper mode.

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Speaker 4: A little consultant.

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Speaker 5: This year I'm consulting more well because you built it

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Speaker 5: and now you left the Catholic League, so to go

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Speaker 5: to Pan Charter so you know, you technically doesn't fall

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Speaker 4: Yeah. With the way it works is when you're a league,

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Speaker 4: you have to be a part of the league to

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Speaker 4: moderate a sport. And while I was a part of

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Speaker 2: I would say, well, once again, you reached secondary ticket market.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's blown up. I said to you last

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Speaker 4: night's on stub pub we have you know, the event

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Speaker 4: where people are selling their you know, twenty to twenty

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Speaker 4: a yeah, it's a big ticket. So you get to

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Speaker 4: this secondary market. So it's pretty funny to see high

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Speaker 3: Well, it's awesome. It shows you where we're at and

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Speaker 3: it's a cool thing. The girls play at noon and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think they might move. There's a call

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Speaker 4: this morning because we might get some snow, so that

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Speaker 4: be they'll pen will make that decision this morning and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just a little snow they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: We're getting buried.

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Speaker 4: I know, I can't stand twenty inches.

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Speaker 2: You just stood your field days just told me. So.

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Speaker 3: It's been a thing because you had to give his

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Speaker 3: So you had to get someone to clean your baseball field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we had to look in you know, we have

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Speaker 4: now it looks like Monday, we're gonna get another field covered.

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Speaker 3: So no, it's gonna be a lot. So I know

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Speaker 3: he's covered. When will you actually be outside? Because it

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. Jeff Schwartz, who does the fellows

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Speaker 3: Every every week, he's in Charlotte, like so he's got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we actually were out there yesterday. So some of

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Speaker 4: I always say We're a little bit of a firefighter.

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Speaker 4: There's always something you don't know what it's gonna pop up,

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Speaker 3: Well, it's good to be in the fifties by next week.

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Speaker 3: It's hopefully that'll be that. All right, tons to talk about,

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Speaker 3: I got to talk about something you and I had

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Speaker 3: we're gonna get the highest state in a minute. But man,

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Speaker 3: oh man, the Phillies signed an eleven year old from Venezuela,

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Speaker 3: gave him one point eight million dollars as a saus ye.

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Speaker 3: So you see this in middle league baseball with kids

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Speaker 3: like the Latin kids are free agents. They're not drafted.

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Speaker 3: So you know, as you got feign dollars to spend.

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Speaker 3: So the Phillies locked up an eleven year old, which

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Speaker 2: I don't care how good the kid is.

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Speaker 3: Like I there's a kid that I've seen, and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure there's one in every you know region, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: there's a kid who's the best kid I saw in

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Speaker 2: The kids don't believe he's big.

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Speaker 3: His lefty, it's got great power, plays every position, and

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Speaker 3: just looked. He just kind of looks prodigy, like almost

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Speaker 3: Bryce Harper was like, you know, everybody knew that this

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Speaker 3: Not because you're you know, you're trying to you know,

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Speaker 2: Like my advice to travel parents, if.

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Speaker 3: Your local kids, right, Like, you don't need to be

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Speaker 3: It's stupid to get on an airplane unless you just

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Speaker 4: And these years your body's still forming, right, you don't like,

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Speaker 4: So you know, just play locally, play as much as

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Speaker 3: You still do like the local travel right where you're

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Speaker 3: going to Georgia and South Carolina. I've done it. It's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and not just that's the youth sports world we're in, right,

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Speaker 3: Well your brainwise, what they're doing is they're selling parents

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Speaker 3: for it because you know, if you're a sports parent

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, Like you know, I mean, those are priceless moments.

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Speaker 3: Those are bonding moments that you have with your children,

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Speaker 2: Like you know, those are gifts.

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Speaker 3: So you know, driving some tournament forty five minutes an

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Speaker 3: families go. I see it every week. Crave these tournaments

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Speaker 3: and it could be any softball, swimming, you name it.

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Speaker 3: But there's the families, and the families are out and

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Speaker 3: it's become a form of church.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: You know. I love the bonding aspect. I love I mean,

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Speaker 4: Like I grew up playing in local leagues. And you know,

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Speaker 4: that was the thing, you know, they weren't on planes

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Speaker 3: It's the best, it really is, all right, So this

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Speaker 3: is we need to discuss Ohio State President Ted Carter

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Speaker 3: basically said what we're doing now in college sports is

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Speaker 3: not sustainable. Now, this is Ohio State, all right. Their

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Speaker 3: revenue is basically between two and eighty to ninety million

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Speaker 3: dollars annually. Their football operating budget is over sixty million.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: It's believed to be the top tier programs need like

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Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty five million per year in nil collectives

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Speaker 3: to remain competitive in football.

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Speaker 2: And Ted Carter, now this is the president of Ohio.

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Speaker 3: State, said it is not sustainable over the next three

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Speaker 2: He also said, I'm worried.

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Speaker 3: Now we gonna take quick too, and I want you

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Speaker 3: think about this is the president of Ohio State saying

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Speaker 3: he's worried, and you're talking about the elite of the

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Speaker 3: elite football program saying he's worried. So we got to

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Speaker 3: discuss that plenty more to do. This is Project Nil.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Danny d Dad a man to the gund of

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Speaker 3: This is Project Nil, and I gotta get to this

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Speaker 3: story because the story is wild, Dan, I mean you're

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Speaker 3: talking about Ted Carter, who is the president of my

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Speaker 3: whose state, says this is not sustainable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he sees it. And I mean he also said

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Speaker 4: an article that only about you know, five to six

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Speaker 4: in terms of nil and continue to do it. Right,

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Speaker 4: we see these schools running a massive deficits and this

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Speaker 4: Ohio state who's bringing in so much money because you know,

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Speaker 4: and they're generating you know, a lot of money back

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Speaker 4: into the program. But for you know, one of the

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Speaker 4: and they're doing sixty million in the football right. So

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Speaker 4: he just says, like, it's not sustainable unless the model changes.

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Speaker 4: And it's kind of comes back to what we we've

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Speaker 4: in and really try to wrangle this in and you know,

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Speaker 4: this world because it's not sustainable. And that's a concern

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Speaker 4: when you know these guys are coming out, you think,

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Speaker 4: saying it's not sustainable, so it's kind of crazy. But

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Speaker 4: I think he's right, and we'll just the clocks on

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Speaker 4: Congress to see when they're going to kind of step

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Speaker 2: Right. I know they're you know, they're a little busy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they a lot going on in the world.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they need to worry about prosecuting creeps is

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Speaker 3: what they need to worry about. Yeah, I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do when it comes to this,

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Speaker 3: a model in place, like revenue sharing needs to be

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Speaker 3: Like you have a high state, you got Michigan, you

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Speaker 2: This Penn State, right, the huge state in the country.

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Speaker 2: They can't afford to run this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they run a big deficit because you know,

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Speaker 4: if you're not in that, you know, if you're not

437
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 4: making a run and you're not in the mix for

438
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 4: the college football playoff, but you're dumping in the money

439
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 4: like everybody else is, you're losing money, man, And how

440
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: do you how do you get out of this hole

441
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 4: that they're putting themselves in. Rutgers and these big programs

442
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 4: that are.

443
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 3: Well part of two when you're two huts on this

444
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 3: last week. But you can't have that kind of travel.

445
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: The travel is absurd, like jumping on airplanes like it's

446
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: their taxi cabs.

447
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: Hey, let me go play volleyball across the country. Yeah,

448
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: how does that make sense?

449
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 4: Are wild?

450
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

451
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 4: On a Tuesday and you're chartering a flight, right, And

452
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: I know, you know when we traveled at my time

453
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: at Saint Joge Prep, we tried to charter fights and

454
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 4: it's once a year and it was a crazy expensive.

455
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: These teams are doing it weekly.

456
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you do it.

457
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: I mean, are the football team? I get it right,

458
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 3: But if you're playing volleyball, you can't be chartering fights

459
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: like you're not going to do that.

460
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: Baseball, You're not you can't do it.

461
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's and it's crazy, and I'm glad he's speaking up.

462
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 4: A lot of people are thinking it but not saying it.

463
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 4: So I'm glad someone that's you know, at the top

464
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: or you know, has you know, the most funding, is saying, hey,

465
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: this is not sustainable for even US or college sports

466
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 4: to continue to exist. You know, they have a three

467
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 4: hundred million dollar athletic department and they're saying it's not sustainable.

468
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still think we're I still think the answer

469
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 3: lies in privatizing this thing, Like.

470
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how else.

471
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: You gotta run out like a business and you've got

472
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 3: a revenue share, and that means it needs to be

473
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: collective bargaining. Like there's there's a lot of legal hurdles

474
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: to create the league, Like it's not the NFL, right,

475
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 3: Like when it comes to the labor laws, like you

476
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: gotta they gotta figure that stuff out.

477
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're paying them, but they don't want to

478
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 4: call them employees right there.

479
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: So there's that, right, There's insurance things, there's like all

480
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: kinds of stuff that you know, because now if you're

481
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: paying them and they become not just ten ninety nine,

482
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: then you got to give them health insurance and for

483
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: one K and everything else.

484
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's the dance we're talking about, and

485
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: it kind of pivots us into like next like we've

486
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: been kind of hitting that the last few weeks. But

487
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 4: really cool that I think it's cool. But you know,

488
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 4: we're if you look at it, you're kind of treating

489
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 4: like people like employees. Like Dion has come out and

490
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 4: you know, put some fines and some you know things,

491
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 4: you know, some regulations on his players that are getting paid,

492
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 4: which is pretty interesting.

493
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: Well, he's treating it like an NFL like an NFL team,

494
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 3: and you know, you're saying, well, you're getting paid, so

495
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: you know you're late to practice, you know, watching film,

496
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: you get fined.

497
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me let me run down what he put

498
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: in place this offseason. So late to practice five hundred

499
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 4: dollars fine, no show to practice twenty five hundred dollars

500
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 4: fine late to meetings or film four hundred dollars fine. Yeah,

501
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 4: no show to meeting or film two thousand dollars fine.

502
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: You're late to conditioning one thousand dollars fine, no show

503
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 4: to conditioning fifteen hundred dollars fine. If you're late to

504
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 4: treatment one thousand dollars fine, no show to treatment fifteen

505
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 4: hundred dollars fine. Violation of team rules can vary from

506
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: one thousand to twenty five hundred, and public or social

507
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 4: media misconduct is a two thousand to five thousand dollars fine.

508
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 4: So Dianna has put these in and said, hey, you

509
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 4: you're getting paid. You don't do what you're going to

510
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: what you're supposed to do, we're taking the money.

511
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: Back and the money goes to the collective.

512
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes back into what they can spend. But

513
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: the question is people. The argument is people are saying, hey, well,

514
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: they're technically non employees. How are you going to find them? Right,

515
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 4: they're they're you know, they're contractors, they're ten, they're you know, they're.

516
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: Not yet can't you say? Can't you argue that, hey,

517
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: I'm paying you for a specific job and you're not

518
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: contracting you for the if you're not showing up and

519
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: you're showing up all not all the time, Man, I

520
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: deserve the doctor paid.

521
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: Now, No, I agree with I'm a I'm a huge

522
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 4: fan of it. I like that he's doing that, and

523
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 4: I think other schools will follow. But just because you

524
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: know how publicized and you know, yeah big he is,

525
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 4: it got a lot of attention, and uh yeah, I'm

526
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: interested to see how it plays out, man. I mean

527
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 4: I want to see how many kids get fined and

528
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 4: you know, how how they react to it, or you know,

529
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: how much actually comes back in from what they've paid

530
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: out this season.

531
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 3: So I'm like it begs the question that you know,

532
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: you're not talking about NFL types, right, so you're talking

533
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: about you know kid that's getting I don't want to

534
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: say one hundred thousand, and you're going to find.

535
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: And you know he's gonna owe you.

536
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: Twenty five hundred for a misspractice or a misconditioning thing

537
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 3: or whatever it is.

538
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really seeing that, Mandy? Is you writing your check?

539
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: Is he? Vano and Dion?

540
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't. They didn't really talk about how

541
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: he plans on collecting it, or maybe they just withhold

542
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: it because a lot of these kids are paid uh monthly,

543
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: so maybe aducked it on your next month salary. But yeah,

544
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: I like the accountability of it. I like saying, hey,

545
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 4: this is a job, right, we're paying you. You have

546
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 4: a job. This is what comes with it, Like.

547
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: Piece of it is good, like that piece of it

548
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: is is right, like you should you should have that

549
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: kind of respect, you know.

550
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, So like compliance departments are going to have to

551
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 4: expand you know, oversight's going to continue to increase, enforcement

552
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: is going to become more organized. So again we're trending

553
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: towards them being full employees. We just haven't gone there yet.

554
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, just because there's a lot

555
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 4: of red tape around that that word and what comes

556
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: with it. So I'm interested to see again how this happens.

557
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 4: And you know, Dion is you know, just kind of

558
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 4: like what Carter like saying, we need guardrails, we need

559
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: we need structure, we need parameters, let's let's figure this

560
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: out on that side of things. You know.

561
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Carter effects crazy too, Like you know, I mean,

562
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: it really is nuts.

563
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: Hey did you see.

564
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: Also that a judge in Tennessee denied Joey Aguilar another

565
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: year events of Elgibra.

566
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did again. So there's so many court decisions

567
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: and there's so many president being started and then like

568
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 4: it's never final, they just appeal to another power. So

569
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: it's continuing to evolve. It's so tied up in the

570
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: court world right now, in the court system. So you know,

571
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 4: we're dealing with these cases every week. It seems like

572
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 4: the case a new case that someone's bringing to you know,

573
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: try to get eligibility and try to get that extra year.

574
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: Well here's what happened.

575
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: Aguilar and roles at San Francisco City College in twenty nineteen,

576
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: where he red shirted. The following year, his season was

577
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: canceled due to the pandemic.

578
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: Aguilar played twenty one to twenty.

579
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: Two at Diablo Valley Community College, then transferred to Appalachian State.

580
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: University, where he played two seasons.

581
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: He won eligibility to play a fifth year in twenty

582
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: twenty five. Diego Pavia wanted a preliterary injunction. So that's

583
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: how he got it last year. Because the NCAA only

584
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: give a one year waiver, Aguilar is technically out of eligibility.

585
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: Now here's the question, and this is where I would

586
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: vote in favor of the kid. You play Diablo Valley.

587
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, it's community college. Yeah, I agree,

588
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: you gotta give that you got you gotta be able

589
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: to waive those two years.

590
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think people don't. They see it black and white,

591
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: and I think every case is different, right, Like this

592
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: is the unique case. And you know, technically when you

593
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 4: start the community college, that starts your clock and that's

594
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: what they stick to it. But I think you should

595
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: evaluate case by case and really understand the situation and

596
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: understand where they are. But some judges might not be

597
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: you know, hip to the sports world. They just see

598
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: it as black and white and saying, hey, your clock started,

599
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: this is it? You know these are year years.

600
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but this is where like the judge

601
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: has to be up on Diablo Valley and go, you know,

602
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: it's a community college.

603
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: You can't penalize the kid. I mean the kids climbing

604
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: a lettle.

605
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: Wrong, and now especially now because so much is in

606
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: the portal, right, like you know, high school kids are

607
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: getting the shirt out of the stick because you're not

608
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: getting recruited because everybody wants to be older and go

609
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: into the portal.

610
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: Well, then you got to work with them.

611
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I agree, and I'm I'm on this

612
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: with you, and I think again, having knowledge and understanding

613
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: of each situation and understanding where they're coming from is

614
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: really important. And you might not get that with judges, right,

615
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: and you're rolling the dice, and I'm sure they'll be

616
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: an appeal and you know, there'll be more precedents set

617
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: every every week there's something new, like we're gonna touch

618
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: on probably after the break is you know there's another

619
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 4: kid that's in the mix right now that is you know,

620
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 4: another twenty five year old that's my age. We well,

621
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: they got it. You know that left college in twenty

622
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: nineteen is trying to come back because you know, he

623
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 4: never played an NBA game. And this is probably the

624
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: fourth story we talked about of kids come back.

625
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: Also, we got told about sacrament the state because state

626
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: they go bleep it, let's.

627
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: Go to the knock.

628
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we got pre things to try to hit

629
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 4: or we can push one next week. But we've still

630
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: got a lot to talk about.

631
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Speaker 3: All right, lots to do and this is Project Nil.

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Speaker 2: After we get off the air.

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Speaker 3: This is our last show with Bree, which is killing

644
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: me because we love Brie. Danny bres leaving.

645
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: Oh what's going on? This is breaking news to me.

646
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love Bridge. We'll talk more with the Fellaws,

647
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: but Danny loves your Bree. We're gonna miss you well.

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00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: Thanks, guys, I'm gonna miss you too.

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Speaker 2: This has been so fun getting this started with you.

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00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: I know, I know, well, you're gonna go off the

651
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: greener pastures, yes, but we may have to rope you

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Speaker 3: in to do some stuff with us on the side.

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Speaker 4: You got it right, I.

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Speaker 2: Know you will. H Day Sacramento State joining the mac

655
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Speaker 2: Now Action, Baby Max.

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Speaker 3: I love the maction. But this is if you think

657
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: about it, it's not insane. Right, Look, it's if you

658
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: think about it. But here you go, this is what

659
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: the MAC offers compared to where they're at. Right, So

660
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: the MAC get the MAC gives them a transition to

661
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 3: FBS that he cruises scholarships from sixty three eighty five. Right,

662
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: they're going to get a MAC television deal. So exposure

663
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: on ESPN midweek. The MAC budgets department budgets range from

664
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: about twenty five to thirty five million annually, and the

665
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: move the FBS will increase their operational costs by like

666
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 3: almost thirty to fifty percent. But they're gonna get it's

667
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: a lot of exposure if they're betting basically betting twenty

668
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: three million bucks.

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Speaker 4: I like, I like to move, you know, I like,

670
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: you know, I read a little bit about this to President.

671
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: You know, he's a mover and shaker. He's a younger guy,

672
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: and he believes like this is the way to you know,

673
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: really increase enrollment, and he's getting behind it. He's investing

674
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: in athletics to kind of drive the enrollment and drive

675
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 4: to school to greener pastures, which is really cool. And

676
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Speaker 4: you know, Max is great on midweek. You know you're

677
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: on your national television and you're gonna, you know, get

678
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: your name out there.

679
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: Now.

680
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: The way it falls is the thing for me is

681
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 4: like the travel right now, you're out in the school

682
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: to the conference that's technically not in that you know

683
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: Midwest area where a lot of these schools very middle

684
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: of the country right where, so yeah, you're going out

685
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: west now, but really cool. I love when schools kind

686
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 4: of invest and believe that athletics is a huge part

687
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: and can really set them up to be successful. So

688
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I loved it. I love to move.

689
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: I did too.

690
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: I think, like you know, again, there's hypocrisy here because

691
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: we're talking about with Ted connors Is in Ohio State

692
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: now it's not sustainable and here you have sakround the

693
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: state spending twenty three million bucks to go play football

694
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: in the mac right, Like you know, they're not going

695
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: to the big house in Michigan.

696
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's still going to be that lower tier

697
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: where it's still more than ever, but it's not you know,

698
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: they're saying their athletics budgets will grow to twenty five

699
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: to thirty five million annually. Ohio State spending sixty million

700
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: in football every year, right, So they're spending still ten

701
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: x of that athletically, So I like this middle range

702
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 4: for them, and I do think it's a it's a

703
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: smart move by their president. I do think it will

704
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: drive enrollment, and I think it will put you know,

705
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: Sacramento State, which isn't you know, a known name to

706
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: be more of a no name. You know, we see

707
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: we know the MAX schools, right, we know from you know,

708
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 4: playing on these piano Thursday nights. That's how I learned

709
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 4: about the conference and you know who's in it and

710
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 4: what those schools are, and you know, I'm aware of

711
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: it and I never would have been. So you know,

712
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 4: we'll bring eyes to them, and I think it would

713
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: be great for their recruiting piece, not for just athletics,

714
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: but for the entire university.

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00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm with you, buddy, hey real quick, because

716
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: you're you're a big hooper and this falls into our purview.

717
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: But today's a monster day college basketball.

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00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: Phenomenal slate, man, I'm excited.

719
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're college basketball, man, this is a

720
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: really good games. You got Houston, Arizona, three Eastern New Pacific,

721
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: which is number four versus number two. Then of course

722
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Speaker 3: at six point thirty Eastern Duke and Michigan one and three.

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Speaker 2: Duke and Michigan Capitol off at night. We're a little

724
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: byu Iowa State Action. These are just ridiculous games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man. And we got locally, we got Villanova versus Yukon.

726
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 4: One of my buddies, Joe rod Tex yesterday, he'll be

727
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: he's booked from two to nine pm with the basketball

728
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 4: slate today, So he's locked in a lot of big games.

729
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's exciting, you know. And then you got UNC, Sarah,

730
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 4: that's at one o'clock. UNC is only one a half

731
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Speaker 4: point favorite, and that's a very weird line. Villanova's Yukon

732
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 4: is only a one and a half point favorite at Villanova.

733
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Speaker 4: That's a very weird line. Right top top twenty five

734
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: teams not giving a lot of points to teams that

735
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 4: are outside it. So really excited about the basketball.

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Speaker 2: Michigan, dude, that's going to peak outrageous.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's good. I mean, Michigan is it. They're

738
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 4: They're a power right now. Man. So I want to

739
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 4: see how see how Duke and and these young guys

740
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: can hold.

741
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: Up with Yeah, I think I mean tough spot, yeah,

742
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: du but wow, that's great stuff at UCLA and you

743
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: lay under fire Cronin and and his history onics this

744
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: past week.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I was cracking up with his interview and

746
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: with the reporter.

747
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, was going after the reporter.

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Speaker 3: It's shade choice is for the dumbest I should ever

749
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Speaker 3: ask I've ever been asked.

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Speaker 4: And then I get you. You know, you got to

751
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: stay up for your people, and real quick before I leave,

752
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: I forgot to do a post check. How we doing

753
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Speaker 4: week two without football?

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00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: It sucks? It sucks.

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00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: I got the combine to brother, keep pushing through. I

756
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 4: got We're getting there.

757
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: Man, I got the combine, all right, So I'll be

758
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: happy with the underwear Olympics, all right, That's what I like.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna do with Stay tuned Felons coming up next