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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, November thirtieth, twenty twenty, season sixteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number seventy one. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We're live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the

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Speaker 1: Star at least Nick is. The rest of us are

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Speaker 1: at our homes. We'll be doing the show here. I'll

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Speaker 1: be doing the show here this week and back in

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Speaker 1: the studio next week. But that doesn't stop us. We

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Speaker 1: got an hour, actually forty five minutes of Cowboys talk

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Speaker 1: for you guys, and today we've got to rehash that

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Speaker 1: game from a Thanksgiving Day. The Cowboys lose to the

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Speaker 1: Washington football team forty one to sixteen in a game

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Speaker 1: that well, I'll let you guys tell us the bigger

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Speaker 1: storyline of the game, because it seemed like for me

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Speaker 1: that game, that final score didn't necessarily reflect the game

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Speaker 1: through most of the game, but obviously at the end

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Speaker 1: of the game, it just all exploded on the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: and they lose forty one to sixteen. Let's go and

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Speaker 1: start with the storylines of the game. Nick, let's start

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Speaker 1: with you. I mean, just when I wrote there were

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Speaker 1: one dimensional, they couldn't run the ball, and when they

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Speaker 1: showed it early in the game that they couldn't run.

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Speaker 1: And when that happens, you know, obviously, especially on the defense,

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Speaker 1: of trick gadget crap that they try to throw out there,

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Speaker 1: and it didn't work. But I mean, this team was

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Speaker 1: that way more. And they were just so one dimensional

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Speaker 1: and it affected them throughout the game and gave and

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Speaker 1: it gave Washington short fields. Amber Well, doesn't matter how

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Speaker 1: bad the NFC is, ease, it's just not gonna happen

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Speaker 1: this year for the Cowboys. I had jumped back on

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Speaker 1: the train thinking that after Minnesota they were able to

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Speaker 1: do some things, and then this happened. It's like, if

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Speaker 1: it's not one thing, it's another, you get your two

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Speaker 1: starting tackles. They go out of the game early, but

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Speaker 1: then the Cowboys are still kind of in there. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're still competing. But then the coaching staff, the coaching decisions,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand, and I know we're gonna get into it,

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Speaker 1: but it's just like, men, it's just we cannot enjoy

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Speaker 1: one single game in peace. It's always gotta be one

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Speaker 1: we were all on that text message Thursday when Amber

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Speaker 1: we knew this was coming and that was very light.

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Speaker 1: So as we get into the show, I'm sure Amber

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Speaker 1: But that was a good four days to cool down day.

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Speaker 1: What you got for us, I'm gonna Angie, we just

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Speaker 1: we got to talk about just ride in the middle, man,

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Speaker 1: Like you can't you can't follow. You can't follow the

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Speaker 1: team on this roller coaster. It's gonna drive you crazy.

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Speaker 1: Because listen, Thursday sucked. They looked terrible, but like they're

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Speaker 1: almost in the exact same boat that they already were like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: roller Coasters not over. Like, there's five more of these

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Speaker 1: the story of the game, self inflicted errors. I know

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Speaker 1: And why? Let's start first with you, Dave, the decision

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Speaker 1: I don't mean the whole thing. Okay, I'm I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm I like aggressive football. I like when coaches play bold.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's fourth and short, third and short for

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Speaker 1: We saw him do it last week, and everybody applauded

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Speaker 1: him for it. Um, I really hate the play call

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Speaker 1: on third and again. Like I just I think the

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Speaker 1: And like, if you don't trust Andy Dalton to do it,

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Speaker 1: until that point, they have not They had not driven

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Speaker 1: let nice Wonder do what he does. He punts playing

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Speaker 1: he can punt fifty sixty yards flipping down there, there

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Speaker 1: and then and then you got to go make a stop.

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Speaker 1: wonder what the win probability was for the Cowboys at

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Speaker 1: everybody said, the coach took him out of that. The

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Speaker 1: I just think he basically put them in a situation

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Speaker 1: Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the Star,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do some performance reviews. We're talking about the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Washington football team game from Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys lose forty one to sixteen in the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys lost versus lost both of their starting tackles,

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Speaker 1: Zach Mardin and Cam Irving. As a result, check these

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Speaker 1: lines out. Zeke has ten carries for thirty two yards

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Speaker 1: a three point two average. Paulot has four carries for

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Speaker 1: twelve yards a three yard average. They allowed four sacks

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Speaker 1: throughout the game. So my question for you guys is

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Speaker 1: what's the status of Martin and h and Irving, because

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Speaker 1: it doesn't look like if they don't come back anytime soon,

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Speaker 1: that this team is going to be in position, even

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Speaker 1: against bad teams, to really be able to do a

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Speaker 1: whole lot. Dave, what do you know about that? It's

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Speaker 1: an MCL sprain for Cam and a calf strain for Zach.

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Speaker 1: So based on what Zach looked like leaving the field,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it hurts like hell, but it

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Speaker 1: looked a lot worse than a muscle strain. That's good news.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you. I guarante probably said no, no, Zach

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Speaker 1: was like, f that, I'm not doing that. I guarantee you.

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Speaker 1: He said something like that, I'm betting that. Yeah, I'm betting.

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Speaker 1: He was like, I'm not getting driven off this field.

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Speaker 1: It was a walk. It was almost fright which the

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Speaker 1: time he got off the field, I mean, it was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, it took it took a long It

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Speaker 1: took a long time. So it's so MCL sprain. We

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Speaker 1: know that's typically a three or four week injury, and

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Speaker 1: the timetable on Zach is probably three or four weeks,

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Speaker 1: which so basically I would guess I would guess you're look,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe the San Francisco game on December twentieth, but

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Speaker 1: I would guess the Philly game after Christmas is like

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Speaker 1: a realistic spot. And so then you just got to

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Speaker 1: ask yourself, you know, are they still playing for something

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Speaker 1: by then, because if they're not, I would imagine you

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Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, if if they can, if they

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Speaker 1: can get a win or two here in the next

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Speaker 1: few weeks, maybe those guys come back. And if they can't,

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Speaker 1: then probably not. I just keep thinking about Nick's calf,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, three or four weeks, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that been seeing right, it seems like this year

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Speaker 1: honestly though, like he's he's gonna do what what anybody

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Speaker 1: with a calf injury should do, and that's get off

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Speaker 1: of it and and you know, and not not walk

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Speaker 1: around or not try to run or anything stupid. So

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Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, yeah, dumb, but he's he's gonna

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Speaker 1: he's gonna take care of it. I'm sure a little

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Speaker 1: way better. But um, when when did that happen? How

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Speaker 1: long ago did that happen? May twenty eight, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and The reason I know it is because I didn't

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Speaker 1: feel it. It feels fine if I walk, but I

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Speaker 1: guarantee I start I start running, like you know, it hurts,

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Speaker 1: So I didn't. I probably damage it Moore, but he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna damage it more. He's not gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: But no, he's not. But I have a totally different

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Speaker 1: opinion about that injury. I really I really thought that

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Speaker 1: was kind of like hamstring, like you know, a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks whatever. But as we as we've seen with

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Speaker 1: Cheeto and other players, I mean just there's different types

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Speaker 1: he's he's probably gonna be out. He could be out

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Speaker 1: maybe the rest of the season with a hamstring injury

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Speaker 1: right there. So this is it's those those strings are

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Speaker 1: different for different guys. But uh, I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna come back. Zack Martin, I don't know about Cam.

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Speaker 1: I don't either. For I mean, if I'm just like

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Speaker 1: if you just ask me my gut feeling, I don't

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Speaker 1: if this was a team with something meaningful to play for,

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Speaker 1: maybe he could get through it in a month. But

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Speaker 1: Why would you do that to you the best on

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Speaker 1: your team in a season that doesn't look like it's

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Speaker 1: going anywhere. Yeah, since we're on this topic, can I

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Speaker 1: ask a fan question real quick? I was seeing people

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Speaker 1: and we know we've talked about this old line and

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Speaker 1: all these injuries, and at first we were thinking, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah and all this, and then we accounted

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Speaker 1: all those injuries to the possibility of that being the reasoning.

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Speaker 1: But this far along into the season, why is it

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Speaker 1: that we keep seeing so many old line injuries this year?

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Speaker 1: And I know that's hard to answer, but what would

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Speaker 1: you think is a problem here? Why does it keep

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Speaker 1: happening at this point of the year. You know, I

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Speaker 1: think it's I really think it's it's bad luck because

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Speaker 1: none of them are the same. I mean, Tyler Biadis

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Speaker 1: gets hurt in pregame warm ups. Are you serious? Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened was Zach Martin? I mean

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Speaker 1: it just it didn't look like he It was like

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Speaker 1: way away from the play, you know, Cam, I think

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Speaker 1: I kind of rolled up on I believe I didn't

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Speaker 1: really looked at that again, I just think they're all

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Speaker 1: so different that I don't know if you can put

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Speaker 1: your finger on one thing. But I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: look around the league, everybody in the league's getting hurt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not just the Cowboys, it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's I think one thing that is unique, sur Dada.

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Speaker 1: One thing that is unique about this team is the

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Speaker 1: injuries are happening at the same position. It's like it's like,

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Speaker 1: I understand, in certain places like Denver, you know, a

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Speaker 1: whole position groups in one place, and you know that

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Speaker 1: that could be bad. They give each other the same thing.

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Speaker 1: But in this case, the position groups in the same

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Speaker 1: they're given each other the injuries. I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's four tackles, it's two quarterbacks, it's it's three cornerbacks,

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Speaker 1: it's two linebackers. It's just it's just you're really hurting

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Speaker 1: this team's depth. I was just gonna I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: you know there's there's obviously, like you can apply science

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Speaker 1: to health and and there are some really amazing, uh

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Speaker 1: strength and conditioning staffs in the NFL. You know, the

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Speaker 1: guys on the Cowboys roster adore the Cowboys strength and

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Speaker 1: conditioning staff like so many good things to say about them,

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Speaker 1: so I think you can gain an edge in that department.

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Speaker 1: But for the most I mean, it's an extremely violent

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Speaker 1: as they are are moving at speeds that they're not

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Speaker 1: I almost it's basically I think it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: waste of time to be like, why is this happening?

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Speaker 1: Because it just does. And the Cowboys have been very

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Speaker 1: unlucky A that it's been as bad as it has

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Speaker 1: and B it's been one position group. But like, I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's an underlying theme for why this stuff

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Speaker 1: is happening. It's just an unfortunate circumstance of playing the

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Speaker 1: game of football. You know, I disagree with you a

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Speaker 1: little bit, Dave. I do think the offseason, the lack

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Speaker 1: of an offseason this last year, I think it makes

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Speaker 1: a difference. I think that's a lot of why this

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Speaker 1: is happening, and not just to the Cowboys, happening across

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Speaker 1: the league. When you're training your body to prepare to

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Speaker 1: be able to play a game like this, I think

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00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: people don't really understand the amount of work that has

639
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: to happen starting back in April, and how they're training

640
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: your body based upon Nick. You were talking about it

641
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: last week when we were talking about the passing of

642
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: Marcus Paul and how he and his staff would literally

643
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 1: get with every player individually and say, Okay, here are

644
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: the things that we think we need to work with

645
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: you on as far as your body is concerned to

646
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: help you get through a sixteen game season at your

647
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: optimal level of play. Right and without that Now they

648
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: had some of that, but without the guys being able

649
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: to be in the building on a daily basis, going

650
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: in and working out with their strengthen conditioning coaches, it's

651
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: just hard to make sure that they all are prepared

652
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: and prepared their bodies in the way that they need

653
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: to in order to give them the best chance. Now,

654
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: football's football, and it's still gonna be football. There's still

655
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna be injuries. I just think you see more of

656
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: them this year because I personally believe it's the fact

657
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: that they didn't have the same kind of training in

658
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: the offseason. I completely for the record, I completely agree

659
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: with everything you just said. It's very obvious that the

660
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 1: unique year that we're in is a big part of

661
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: why we've seen these injuries, But this happens in regular

662
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: seasons too, Like how many years, how many seasons have

663
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: we covered where there's been a rash of hamstring injuries

664
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: and fans are like, what the hell is going on

665
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: with this team's hamstrings? Like what are they doing wrong?

666
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: Everybody's got a bum hamd Like Miles Austin. It was

667
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: like year after year where people were like, what's the

668
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: deal with this guy's hammy? Like and yeah, there are

669
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: things you can do to combat that, but same time,

670
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: football's football. So yes, like the pandemic is a big

671
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: part of it, but something similar would be happening in

672
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: a regular year or two. Maybe not to this degree,

673
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: but these things just happen, right absolutely, And I agree

674
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: there's definitely injuries every single year. I think that it's

675
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: just in my opinion, there is an increased number of

676
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: injuries this year, and I think the reason and you

677
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: look across the league, like there are top line NFL

678
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: stars that are out this year due to injuries that

679
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: took them out for the whole year, And I don't

680
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence that that happens in a year

681
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: when they didn't have a normal offseason like they would

682
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: have any other year. All right, we're gonna take our

683
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: final break. When we come back. We got some more

684
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: positions that we want to talk about. We got to

685
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: talk about Zeke in his fumbling situation that when we

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726
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Speaker 1: added that part. Hey, I'm gonna tell you this. I'm

727
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Speaker 1: gonna tell you this. Though as much as it was,

728
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Speaker 1: it was not great boxing. Oh, it was good comedy.

729
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: Saturday Night was really really good comedy. Yeah, oh man,

730
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: that was I had a good time watching Twitter and

731
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: seeing how everybody was reacting Nate Robinson and then reacting

732
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: to the old guys in there. But it was. It

733
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: was definitely good comedy. I needed that Saturday Night. That's

734
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: all right, let's jump back yet. I was gonna say

735
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: earlier today. You know Snoop obviously was commentating that, and

736
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: it's what reminded me of, oh my god, what Amber

737
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: said it. I know you looked at me. I looked

738
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: at you because it was like Snoop said it best.

739
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: If it ain't one thing, it's another, right. We were

740
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: both looking at each other, ready to laugh, ready to

741
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: jump out and say it no, but yeah, no, yeah no.

742
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: When when when Nate Robinson went down and and uh

743
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: and uh and Snoop started singing, precious Lord, I really

744
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: almost hurt my stomach, Like literally, I thought I was

745
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: gonna hurt my stomach laughing so hard. That was hilarious.

746
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump back in. We got to talk

747
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: about Zeke Man and this is this fumbling thing is

748
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: just out of control. He now had six fumbles this season.

749
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: At the time when it happened, Dallas was they had

750
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: the ball. It was the opening drive of the second half.

751
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: They were down seventeen thirteen UM. It led to a

752
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: Washington field goal that pushed it to twenty thirteen. After

753
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: the game, though, and I'm just interested in hearing what

754
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: Zeke had to say about it, Dave, what did you

755
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: hear from Zeke after the game? I'm sure he was

756
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: asked by it, asked about it by the media. What

757
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: was what was it? Were his thoughts on this fumble?

758
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: I mean, his van thing was that he thought, you know, somebody,

759
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: he said, he thought somebody kicked the ball while he

760
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: was fighting for extra yards. Uh, honestly, with everything that happened,

761
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: like you know Zeke spent Zeke spent a lot of

762
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: his media availability talking about Marcus Paul and just the

763
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: emotion of getting ready for a game in those circumstances.

764
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: Like he didn't he didn't really offer up a lot

765
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: about the fumble, but I know what he would say.

766
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: He would just be I can't let that happen. I

767
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: have to be better, because that's what he's said after

768
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: all of the other ones, and it's still happening. It's

769
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: it's really disheartening. I said, I said this on Thursdays, Like,

770
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: I don't expect him to be amazing when he doesn't

771
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: have his quarterback and his line as a fiasco. I mean,

772
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: it would be great if he could be, but I

773
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: don't expect it. I do expect him to hold onto

774
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: the ball and be a reason why the team wins

775
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: instead of a big reason why they lose. Um I

776
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: like I run out of things to say. Is like

777
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: he's not playing up to his contract. He's not currently

778
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: playing like an above replacement value NFL running back and

779
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: like I still think he is, but but why, Like,

780
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: where's my evidence that suggests that it's? Like I said,

781
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: it's it's disheartening and frustrating. You got any answers? Nick

782
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: and Amber Like, I'm just I'm such such a lot.

783
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm so much at a loss at this point. And

784
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: obviously we know that he's not necessarily um, he's not

785
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: necessarily playing out a level that you would expect from

786
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: a guy making that amount of money, but like Dave says,

787
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: you would at least expect him to be able to

788
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: hold on to the ball, right, Yeah, it's I don't know.

789
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean like, I don't if you didn't know him better,

790
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: you would say maybe, like it just looks like a

791
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: guy that's checked out. But I'm not saying that he is.

792
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: It's just that, you know, he doesn't have his quarterback,

793
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: doesn't have his line. There's so many reasons of why

794
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 1: it's not going his way. But he's got to focus better.

795
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: You got to concentrate. I mean that I don't think

796
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: anybody kicked that ball out. It sounded his quote was like,

797
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: I think someone kicked the ball out, but it didn't.

798
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean like he was fighting, you know what. I

799
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: rewatched it on the break and it's hard to tell.

800
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: I try to go slowly, and what it looks like

801
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: is there is a defender there and when he goes down,

802
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: the ball just kind of lands and it touches the

803
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: foot of the guy. Not that the guy kicked it.

804
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: He just happens to kind of land on the foot

805
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: of somebody, and that's what it calls the ball to

806
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: come out. And yeah, maybe he thought, oh, because he

807
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: felt a foot there, maybe he thought, oh, someone kicked

808
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: it out. But in reality, it's just the way he

809
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: landed and the fact that he didn't he wasn't protecting

810
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: it with the other arm for the ball not to

811
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: go out. Yeah, And that's kind of my biggest problem

812
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: with this whole thing is just I feel like I

813
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: feel like he's not protecting the ball, like it's not

814
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: front of mine for him that when I'm fighting for

815
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: these extra yards, even if it requires me covering the

816
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: ball with both arms, I'm not doing enough to protect

817
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: the ball. And if I can't get the extra yards

818
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: without protecting the ball, then maybe I don't need the

819
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: extra yards. Of the way I would look at it

820
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: if I'm him in this situation where your team needs

821
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: you to at the very least not turn the ball over. Well,

822
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: but I'll say this, though he this team, how many

823
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: third and one fourth and one. I mean they couldn't.

824
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: They had first and goal from the four. You've got

825
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: to fight for extra yards. I mean he sees it there,

826
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: he goes. I mean I applaud him for trying to

827
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: get that because he knows he's got to get a

828
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: first down. I mean I made the comment earlier in

829
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, this team can get nine yards easy.

830
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: It's just that last yard they can't get. And so yeah,

831
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: he's got to fight for extra yards. He's just got

832
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: to do it better. Yeah, he just got to protect

833
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: the ball while he does it. I mean that's the

834
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: only point. If he can't protect the ball, then it's

835
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: not worth it. Because, as they say in the program,

836
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: imagine how good it would be if we still had

837
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: the ball, Like, you gotta keep the ball, you can't

838
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: turn it over. Let's imagine. Let's imagine an alternate an

839
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: alternate reality where Zeke is one of the nine hundred

840
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: guys on injured reserve. If they were getting this, if

841
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: they were getting this level of production from Rico Doubtle,

842
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: they'd have cut him by now. They would have been like, well,

843
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: you're not doing it, Like what, No, We'll just go

844
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: get another guy who can do this, Like, that's the point, Dave.

845
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: It's like I said, he's not he's playing below replacement value.

846
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: Like the one thing any NFL running back should be

847
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: able to do is get tackled and hold onto the ball.

848
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: And I and like, I don't have an answer for it,

849
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: but I'm out of things to say. I really, I

850
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: really do feel for Zeke, Like I think a lot

851
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: of the a lot of the criticism is over the

852
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: top in my opinion. Like I think I've already said

853
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: before that it's not ideal for what you're paying him,

854
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: but like when the team is healthier next year, I

855
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: think he'll be just fine. Yeah, but it's so disheartening

856
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: that you can't even get mediocre running back play from

857
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: a guy that's making the money that Zeke is making

858
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: right now. But I have to disagree on that though,

859
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: Rico Daddall, who would not be cut? You think if

860
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: he's got six fumbles but he's seventh, He's seventh in

861
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: the NFL and rushing. He's definitely not going to cut

862
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: a guy who seventh in the league and rushing. If

863
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: he's an undrafted Rickie, you know what I mean. I mean,

864
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like that's I mean he's got that's volume

865
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: stats though, that's that's volume stats, like Zeke really seventh

866
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: in the league, I think so, I mean, I mean

867
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: that's honestly, he's had one one yard game, he's averaged

868
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: like more of that, he's averaged better than four yards

869
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: of carry, like. But he was seventh going into the game,

870
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that would have probably dropped

871
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: him after it with just thirty five, right with thirty

872
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: five last weekend, yeah, that's not going to keep him there.

873
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I mean I get the point. And

874
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I don't think that Zeke is it's

875
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: somebody mentioned that you know, you know, you would think

876
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: that that if you didn't know him, that he would

877
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: be a guy that's kind of checked out. I don't

878
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: believe even for a second. I don't think any of

879
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: us believe for a second he's a guy that's checked out.

880
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: That's not the kind of guy that he is. I

881
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: just think that for whatever reason, he can't fix this problem.

882
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: And that's where to me, I think it's either on

883
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: him or it's on his running back coach or some

884
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: other coach to get in his ear and say, look, man,

885
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: above all else, protect the ball. That's where your focus

886
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: needs to be. First and foremost. Everything else that comes

887
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: from that has to start with you protecting the ball.

888
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: And if you can get those actually are it's great.

889
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: First and foremost, you have to protect the ball so

890
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: that he can, at least in his mind refocus himself

891
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: on protecting the ball at all situations. Yeah, you don't

892
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: see a lot of bad quarterbacks, I'm sorry, great quarterbacks

893
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: on bad teams. I mean, they typically do enough to

894
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: get to get, you know, win games. But you see

895
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: it with running backs. I mean, there's been some really

896
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: good running backs, Hall of Fame running backs that play

897
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: on bad teams. I mean, if you don't have some

898
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: help around you, it's hard to just do it all

899
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: by yourself. You've got any especially if you're not dynamic

900
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: that can just take it to the house. He's not

901
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: that kind of guy. I mean, obviously you can say

902
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, Barry Sanders was dynamic, doesn't matter who was

903
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: blocking for him. But Zeke's certainly not that guy. He

904
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: needs help, He needs better blocking. He's had his whole career.

905
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: He doesn't have it this year. Yeah, and that's one

906
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: of the problems. And that's one of the challenges when

907
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: you spend as much money as you do on a

908
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: running back, on any running back, when you pay that

909
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: second contract a lot of time, is going to be very,

910
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: very difficult to get the return on investment, because, as

911
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: you said, Nick, if you can't do it by yourself,

912
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: if you can't be the reason that the team is

913
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: performing really well, it really even in adverse situations, then

914
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: it's hard to make that money make sense. Did anyone, though,

915
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone on this show, did anyone really

916
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: stand up and say, no, way they should be paying

917
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: this guy, like when he was holding out and all

918
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: that stuff. I don't remember that. No, I definitely I

919
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: think my attitude at the time and I still honestly

920
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: believe it is like, you shouldn't be paying a running back.

921
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: But if there's a guy that I think you can

922
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: get away with paying a contract like that too, it's

923
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: probably Zeke. And my my thing with that was more

924
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: about his durability than you know, than his dynamic ability.

925
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: And that's kind of my point is, like, I'm not

926
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: panicked about the Zeke contract the way a lot of

927
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: people are, Like, when the team's healthier, I think he'll

928
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: be just fine. Yeah, it's just it's but it does

929
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: it does suck that he is not right to this challenge,

930
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, I don't envy him because it

931
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 1: sounds hard, but that's what you expect for that price, right,

932
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: And you know, I will say this Nick, at the time,

933
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: I thought they needed to pay him. I do remember

934
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: on this show though, us talking about should you ever

935
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: pay a running back that second contract? And I think

936
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: we all kind of landed on It's probably not going

937
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: to be a good thing most of the time. But

938
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: Zeke is a different situation. I think what I've learned

939
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: since then is I don't care who it is. If

940
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm an NFL team. The percentages you talk about, analytics,

941
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: the percentages say it is not a smart idea to

942
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: pay a running back in vast majority of the situations

943
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: a second contract. So just go out and draft another one.

944
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, you can draft him in the second, third,

945
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: fourth round and still get really, really quality running backs.

946
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: I just think that's a smarter way of doing business

947
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, because I think you can get quality

948
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: without having to pay that big second contract to a

949
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: guy that in most instances is not going to give

950
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: you the return on that investment. But let's not forget

951
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It's not like they don't think that way,

952
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: because the cow always had the best season of any

953
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: running back ever in DeMarco Murray. As far as you know,

954
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: he has the Cowboys single season record. And they they

955
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: they came back the next year and said, yeah, well,

956
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: we'll resign you for this about six million or so.

957
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: We're not going to go over that Philadelphia did and

958
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: they regretted it, you know, and he never was the same.

959
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: So it's it's not like they don't already know that.

960
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: I think they just felt like we're all saying here

961
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: that with Zeke and everything, it's just different and he's

962
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: worth it, and so far it's you know, and hasn't

963
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: hasn't worked out. Yeah, look across Amber, I was just

964
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: gonna say, I mean, you talk about how easy it

965
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: is to replace running backs because of the position, But

966
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: at the same time, when you look at other NFL

967
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: teams just in general around the league, how often do

968
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: you say, oh, the best player on that team is

969
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: the running back. I don't know. I think you say

970
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: it in Tennessee right now, you'd probably say that maybe

971
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: in definitely in Minnesota, you'd say that, yeah, would you agree? Yeah.

972
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Zeke has been the best player of the

973
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys in the past few years. Hasn't been this year, clearly,

974
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: but in previous year. I think that that you just

975
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: would always see him specifically as the best player on

976
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: the team, and therefore he kind of ended up with

977
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: that kind of contract. Wonder there's not many ways like that.

978
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: I just wonder maybe, you know, again, you kind of

979
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: got to go back in time and think about it,

980
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: Like Zeke signed that deal before they played a snap

981
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: of the twenty eighteen season. I wonder if they would

982
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: feel as compelled to get that deal done if they

983
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: had known Dak was going or excuse me, the twenty

984
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: nineteen season, if they had known Dak was going to

985
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: make the leap that he has made, because even I

986
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: mean he was he was solid in twenty eighteen, but

987
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: he took his ability to another level last season and

988
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: certainly seemed like he was on that path in twenty

989
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: twenty before he got hurt. I wonder if the Cowboys

990
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: had been a one hundred percent confidence they were going

991
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: to get that quarterback, would they have been as eager

992
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: to sign Zeke to that deal as they were, I

993
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: don't know right and I think the other reason they

994
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: were willing to sign that deal is because they thought

995
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: they had a dominant offensive line and Zeke was the

996
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: cherry on top of a dominant offensive line. You have

997
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: an outstanding running back with an outstanding offensive line, you

998
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: can do some great things. So what we're seeing right

999
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: now is without that offensive line, it kind of negates

1000
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: their ability to get great play out of Zeke, And

1001
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you could get the same play, if

1002
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: maybe not a league a little bit better. At least

1003
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: we're holding on the ball from that standpoint from other

1004
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: running backs out there. And I'll challenge you to do this.

1005
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: Look across the NFL right now and find me the

1006
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: number of running backs in the top ten, let's say

1007
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: in rushing that are on a second deal. It's not

1008
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: very many. Derrick Henry is the only one that can

1009
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: come to mind that comes to mind for me right now.

1010
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: Most of them are guys that are still on their

1011
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: first deal. And so I think that's the part you

1012
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 1: have to remember is that this is an NFL where

1013
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: younger guys at the running back position can give you

1014
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: great production for those first four or five years of

1015
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: that deal. It's really not worth it in most sensances

1016
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: to pay the second deal. All right, appreciate you guys,

1017
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: join us. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll get into some

1018
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: bigger picture topics. We'll talk a little bit about the

1019
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: NFC East Eagles we'll be playing tonight. We'll see where

1020
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: the NFC East is, what the NFC East is looking

1021
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: like tomorrow when we get on the show. Till then,

1022
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: for Nick Eaton, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleton.

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