1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Kalbisi joins me. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Another frustrating loss. We get to discuss. The Cardinals certainly 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: put themselves in position to win on Sunday. Get down 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: this stretch. Just poor execution on both sides of the ball. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: The team is limping literally and figuratively into the bye week. 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode six twenty and it starts now. 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. Hitting the backfield and down 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: he goes for a loss. J J. Watt Nailed it. 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com Slash podcasts. He's at the ten half 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: of five. Hes in again, so for Harry Magic. Whoa, 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: here's Craig Grielou once again, a lot of what ifs, 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: what might have been, and instead we are looking at 15 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: a four and eight record for the Arizona Cardinals as 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: they go into the bye week. Paul losers of two 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: and a row, four of their last five, and maybe 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: not any healthier coming out of the bye depending on 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: what happens over the next couple of weeks. But this 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: team is banged up, but right now they are just 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: searching for a way to get into the wind column. 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: And it was a different sort of loss, wasn't it. 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: It was a game where you really thought you were 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: gonna win. It was a game you were dominating in 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: so many different ways. So, look, a loss is a loss, 26 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: is a loss, and it's most definitely a Monday. I'm 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: not saying I have a case of the Mondays, but 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: it's most definitely a Monday after a loss. But there 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: are different sorts of losses. When that second half got 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: away from you in Mexico City, okay, but when this 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: was a game that was right in front of you 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: to the very end, literally and it was within your grass, 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: and you can look at the fact that you know what, 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: you have only yourself to blame. Now, look, you have 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: a four nine ers team the week before that is 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: peaking and is playing real well, and they were able 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: to dominate the line of scrimmage at times. That was 38 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: not the case against their Chargers. I haven't seen a 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: running backet to the second level so easily with such 40 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: frequency in a Cardinals game either side in a long time. 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: So when you come out and you run for over 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: one hundred eighty yards in a game, I don't care 43 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: what else happens in the game. You feel like you 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: should win that game. And when the Cardinals started seven 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: and oh ten and two last year, there were a 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: handful of games they ran for a buck eighty or 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: more and they won all those games. That went at 48 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: the Rams, to win at the forty nine ers with 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: Cole McCoy, the win at Cleveland, those all come to mind, 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: just top of mind. And so when the game was 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: trending that way early, and I'm thinking, okay, we've seen 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: James Conner's prowess in the fourth quarter after he wears 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: down a defense. If he's already doing this to the 54 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Chargers front seven to start a game, then what is 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: the second half going to be all about? So you're right, 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there are just so many different questions that 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: result from a loss like that, and I don't think 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: it's any one thing, but you know, weird, weird Kelvin 59 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: Beecham at the end, and I think it resonated with 60 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: both of us. You run the postgame side on Cardinals 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Radio Network, and I was in the locker room and 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: to me, those are the words that resonate this morning 63 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: in the immediate aftermath of this loss. Twenty five, twenty 64 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: four Cardinals lose to the Los Angeles Chargers, and we 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: talked about it on Friday, two desperate football teams because 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers looking to get into the wind column again. 67 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: They had lost two in a row and three of 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: their last four and still very much alive in the AFC, 69 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals clinging to life in the NFC, and now you're 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: three games back of that final playoff spot with five 71 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: games left and four teams ahead of you, so it 72 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: is very slim. But this team just needs to figure 73 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: out a way to get away from the self lickted 74 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: mistakes and just pure execution, because that's what we heard. 75 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned Kelvin Beach, and I want to I want 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: to play his postgame comments here in a minute, but 77 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: just when you look at the final thirteen minutes, if 78 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: you will, because the offense had three drives, did not 79 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: get a first down, and the defense kept getting stop 80 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: after stop after stop until that final scoring drive in 81 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: which Justin Herbert marched the Chargers down the field seven 82 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: plays thirty eight yards and hooked up with Austin Eckler 83 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: for the one yard touchdown plus the two point conversion. 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: And it's just a play here or a play there. 85 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: And we say it every single week, regardless of the 86 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: opponent and regardless of what the teams on the field. 87 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: In the National Football League pall, it comes down to 88 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: a handful of plays. And that was a case for 89 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: the Cardinals on Sunday. And good teams win those close games. 90 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: Just because you're close doesn't mean you're a potentially good team. 91 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to most of the time 92 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You have to win those close games, 93 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: and there can still be a gap, a huge gap, 94 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: a divide between whether you're a winning team or losing team, 95 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: despite how close it might be on the scoreboard. And 96 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: the teams that are above five hundred find a way 97 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: to win those games, like the Chargers just did. And 98 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: and yeah, we can sit here and we get a 99 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: zoom out and we look at the last five games. 100 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: But you know what, until you win two games in 101 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: a row, you're not a playoff team until you at 102 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: least get back to five hundred. I don't think you 103 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: can look at the playoff picture either. So you got 104 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: to figure out what's wrong right here, right now, and 105 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: look on that very end of the game. Let's look 106 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: at those last two plays, the last two snaps for 107 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: the LA Chargers, the Exler touchdown with about eighteen second 108 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: or eighteen seconds on the clock to start, and then 109 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: the two point conversion and to Gerald Everett, and both 110 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: times watching the replay, now, look I might be getting 111 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: over my skis here a little bit, a little bit 112 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: with the x's and oh's, but Isaiah Simmons appeared to 113 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: be late in coverage to both and in both cases 114 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: it appeared, looking at the replay that his eyes were 115 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: in the backfield were on the quarterback. And then first 116 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Eckler escapes out to the flat and beats him to 117 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: the pylon. And then on the two point conversion, Gerald 118 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: Everett the tight end on a quick slant, wide open, 119 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: two steps behind him. Isaiah Simmons, I can tell you 120 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: when the clocks hit zero, there was one guy left 121 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: on the bench sort of staring at his feet, and 122 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: that was Isaiah Simmons. No one appeared to take it 123 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: harder than number nine. And whether that was because he 124 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: was the one who was victimized at the very end, 125 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: you know, look, it's been a constant theme with these 126 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: first round linebackers, saving Collins or Isaiah Simmons where they've 127 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: been targeted at different times. It's a game of matchups. 128 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: You saw to Mexico City, Christian McCaffrey really hurt the 129 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals on the pass catching game more so, I think 130 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: than running the ball and Eckler that was a big 131 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: challenge against the Chargers. Eckler's the only other running back 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: maybe in the NFL, along with an Album Camaro, who 133 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: has a definite case of fumble itis right now. But 134 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, these are the elite running backs who can 135 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: catch the ball or the backfield and these this has 136 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: been a problem for the Arizona Cardinals defense. You can't 137 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: always put a Buddha Baker or Jalen Thompson on these guys. 138 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: And that's why you take linebackers in the first round, 139 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: because they're able to run and cover. It's ostensibly why 140 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: you got rid of Jordan Hicks because he was a 141 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: liability and coverage otherwise, Jordan Hicks was, you know, a 142 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: fine middle linebacker, but too many teams went after him 143 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: with these sort of routes and these sort of matchup advantages, 144 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, advantage the LA Chargers because in crunch time, 145 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: that's where they went with the football on those two plays. 146 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: Bertrand Berry on Cardinal Talk with myself post game brought 147 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: up and really harped on specifically the two point conversion because, 148 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: as you mentioned and what Batran has consistently talked about, 149 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: when you are a linebacker, your eyes, where are your eyes? 150 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: Do you get fooled? And too many times Simmons has 151 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: been fooled. Where are you supposed to be? And where 152 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: are you? And on that Eckler or excuse me, on 153 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: the Everett play was Simmons breaking to his left following Evert, 154 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: but it was going to be a quick slant inside 155 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: because that's where the ball was going and you knew it. 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: Quoted to Bertram Berry, there was no way Evert was 157 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: going to continue to go a break to Simmons's left 158 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: because everyone had shifted that way. There were two other 159 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: wide receivers in that direction, so you knew where you 160 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: just had to be, stay put or step up because 161 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: it was it was too easy of a two point conversion, 162 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: one of the easiest two point conversions I've seen all 163 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: season long, because it was basically the quarterback looking and 164 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: just throwing it basically on air, well like no other 165 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: defense around you. It's learning on the job. Some of 166 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: these young guys learning on the job, and guess what 167 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: it can cost you games. And it's one of the 168 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: reasons why ISAA Simmons didn't get a lot of snaps 169 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: his rookie year. It's why you saw last year's Aamon 170 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: Collins didn't get a lot of snaps his rookie year. 171 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: The coaches are gonna play those guys they can trust. 172 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: It's why when fans say, why is Bennim out? There 173 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: are Tanner Vallejo, you know, backup inside linebackers, fringe players 174 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Theoretically, well, it's because they're sounding their assignments. 175 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: And you can have all the athleticism in the world, 176 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: and you can have all the measurables, but if you're 177 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: not in the right place at the right time, if 178 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: there's an a blown assignment or alignment, it's going to 179 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: cost you the play, which can cost you a game. 180 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: That's what it boiled down to. At the very end, Now, 181 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: should it have been as close of the game, should 182 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: the Chargers have had all those possessions at the very end, 183 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: when again the Cardinals' final four possessions, a trio three 184 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: and outs, and then those two plays at the very 185 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: end before the clock expired, the trio three and outs, 186 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: they had sixteen total yards correct. So you know, look, 187 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: there's plenty of blame to go around, there's no question 188 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: about it. But in any game that ends up being 189 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: a one point game, yes, there are a handful of 190 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: plays that will decide the game. And I'll give Kyler 191 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: Murray credit because he stood in front of reporters post 192 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: game and took ownership of those final three drives. Quote, 193 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: there is no excuse for our last three drives. There's 194 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: no excuse. We got the players. There is no excuse 195 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: not finishing that game on our terms, not having to 196 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: put the defense out there. They did their job. End 197 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: quote thirteen thirty one to go Cardinals score to make 198 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: a twenty four seventeen and the next three possessions for 199 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Murer and the offense three and out, three and out, 200 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: three and out, a minute forty five, a minute twenty 201 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: two in that last possession officially thirty one seconds, but 202 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: it was a nineteen second possession because you add the 203 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: Andy Lee punt to take it inside of two minutes. 204 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: We did not see Andy Lee at all until the 205 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and the fact that this offense could not 206 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: gain at least a first down on any one of 207 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: those drives or milk the clock with two nineteen to 208 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: go is an indictment on that offense. Yes, there were 209 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: four backups on that offensive line, but you talked about it. 210 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: James Connor was running the ball left and right up 211 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: the to the second third level easily, Yet for whatever reason, 212 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: that was not happening in the fourth quarter. And that's 213 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: a big question mark and something that needs to be 214 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: diagnosed because if you can't correct it, then you just 215 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: can't move forward. Did the Cardinals lose the game of adjustments? 216 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: Those first three drives by the Chargers they were stymy, 217 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: They weren't going anywhere, and Justin Herbert was three of 218 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: eight passing, then he ripped off eleven of his next eleven. 219 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: I think he was like seventeen eighteenth straight. So they 220 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: obviously made adjustments. The Cardinals, you know, countered to some degree. 221 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: But when the second half started with that possession and 222 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: ends up in the miss forty nine yard field goal 223 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: by Matt Prader, that definitely was a deflating moment you're thinking, 224 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: it's not that critical, come on, and it's there's still early, 225 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: very early in the second half. But it just it's 226 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: something that could have really sort of paid off that 227 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: initial possession and brought the building to live a little 228 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: bit when you get three points. And so you missed 229 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: that field goal, but there were plenty there were plenty 230 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: of his shoes to go around, you know, Tray McBride, 231 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: multiple drops, Tray McBride not able to make a block 232 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: here and there, and in the absence is zach Ertz. 233 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: You know, the second round pick has to deliver. And 234 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: here you are in week twelve, and they obviously didn't 235 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: get enough production out of Tray McBride, who factored in 236 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: on two of those last three three and outs. He 237 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: was targeted on a second and eleven with ten fifteen 238 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: to go, dropped the ball. He was sandwiched by two linebackers. 239 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: So then it becomes third and eleven, James Connor runs 240 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: nine yards, you're forced to punt the football. Then on 241 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: the second three and out seven thirty four to go, 242 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: the drive starts second and nine. Kyla Murray looks or 243 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: excuse me, third and five. Kyla Murray looks in the 244 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: direction of Tray McBride, another drop, maybe some good covers, 245 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: the defensive back gets the hand on the football, But 246 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: on third and five, you got to be able to 247 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: hang on to the football. Unfortunately he doesn't, and Andy 248 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: Leap hunts for the second time. So those were two 249 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: incidences in which you're looking at a rookie tied end 250 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: as opposed to either a DeAndre Hopkins, a Hollywood Brown 251 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: AJ Green Robbie Anderson who actually has a catch now 252 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: for positive yards this season, or even a James Connor 253 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: out of the backfield. So the decision making, the progressions 254 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: that the quarterback is making on his reads, were they 255 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: the correct ones, especially there in the fourth quarter. I mean, 256 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: think about it, you know, to play off what you 257 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: just said there. This is all in sequence, according to 258 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: my little game log on the sideline. By the way, 259 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: Justin p walked by early in the first quarter and 260 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: I was having a little game log going. He goes 261 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: right down, really good run by James Connor. Paul. I'm like, 262 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate that, Justin. So here you are third 263 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: and thirteen at the thirty six and the Zaven interception 264 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: that wasn't that was one of two critical overturns that 265 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: did not go to the Cardinal's way. Soon after that, 266 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: he had the d hop one handed, grabbed unbelievable catch. 267 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: I still don't know I made that catch, and so 268 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: he prevented what easily could have been an interception, although 269 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: forty three for the Chargers looked like he was a 270 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: little late to reacting. I'm not sure the dB makes 271 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: that catch, even though it would have been right in 272 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: the bread basket. Then to your point, the third down 273 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: right after the d hop one hander was the Trey 274 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: mc McBride dropped Okay, Cardinals punted away right. Chargers first 275 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: next play, Antonio Hamilton with a dropped interception could have 276 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: been huge. So once again, so many could have, so 277 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: many should have. Any one of those plays goes to 278 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals way, then maybe it's a different outcome. But that's 279 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: what we mean when we see those little things or 280 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: big things, big things to side games, and that's that's 281 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: where the Cardinals have been lacking this year and any 282 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: and I will go back to September Greed. Remember we 283 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: talked about this. Good teams have different heroes at different times. 284 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: Losing teams have different issues at different times. It's whack 285 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: a mole. You can't identify one thing. It's different guys 286 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: making different mistakes, taking their team their turn to make 287 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: their single air of the game. And that's ultimately what's 288 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: costs you. It's the combination, the amalgamation, if you will, 289 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: of all these errors and then boom. That's the harmark 290 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: of any losing team in any sport in a lot 291 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: of ways. And so unfortunately that has been the brand 292 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: of ball, the DNA of this Cardinals team this year 293 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: too often. It's why they've lost twice as many games 294 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: as they've won. Cardinals lose twenty five twenty four to 295 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers, their second straight defeat. They've dropped four of 296 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: their last five, and yeah, things do not look good 297 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: here as they head into the bye week. But we 298 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: kind of teased it, and I'll give once again props 299 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover too, presented by Hunday probably partner 300 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals to Kelvin Beecham, who earlier in 301 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: the week stood in front of his locker and address reporters. Obviously, 302 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: the news coming out of Mexico City, not only do 303 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: you lose, but you lose your offensive line. Coach and 304 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: run game coordinator, So major shake up within that offensive 305 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: line room, and then dealing with the different pieces that 306 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: Beach has had to play with this season. He's the 307 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: only healthy starter on that offensive line, and then he 308 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: steps next to you post game after the Cardinals lose, 309 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: and I thought your question your follow up was something 310 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: that we need to hear once again here on this 311 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Monday as well. Paul Calvc and Calvin beacham after the 312 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals lost twenty five twenty four simply put what hurts 313 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: the most about a game? It certainly appeared the Cardinals 314 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: are tracking towards winning. I think in the most critical 315 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: moments of the game, not executing and I putting us 316 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: as a physician to close the game out. We had 317 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: two opportunities there in the fourth quarter, I think we're 318 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: four minutes to go and then a game before the 319 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: two minute warning. Well, we had a chance to close 320 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: the game out offensively. And I think that's what's most 321 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: as hardened about this. Was there a common denominator? Was 322 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: there anything they did per se or was more of 323 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: what the Cardinals did not do. I think that they 324 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: did a really good job oppression on second downs, and 325 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: I think as a game we're on. We started to 326 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: get a beat on that and I think that's second 327 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: down and you know, second down to nine and we 328 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: had backed up that they blistered the song um and 329 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: sacked us one. I mean it really, it really hurt us. Um. 330 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: You know, they were to have stopped the clock. Who 331 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: wantever to get many yards and we put our defense 332 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: on a field and in a short position. You know. 333 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's a it's 334 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: all about to turnover bout them, and we had two 335 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: turnovers and uh, you're not supposed to win if you 336 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: have two turnovers. But even in spite of that is 337 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: as you know, stupid as we played today. We set 338 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: out opportunity to close the game out and we didn't 339 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: do so. Stupid. You didn't like the football, IQ, not 340 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: at all. How so, I mean, there's an opportunity again 341 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: to close the game out with you know, two drives 342 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Uh, and offenses that are of 343 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: playoff caliber are able to do so, and we didn't 344 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: do that to the stupid as we played today. Paul, 345 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: what did Beacham mean? And again, great follow up on 346 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: your point on that response, because I think that's a 347 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: phrase that certainly raised my eye house and certainly made 348 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: me sit up a little bit, because if there are 349 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: two voices in that locker room that I will listen 350 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: to more than a one, it's Buddha Baker, yep. And 351 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: we heard him postgame in Mexico City. And then Kelvin Beacham, 352 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: who doesn't say a lot, but when he does speak, 353 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: you listen. He's at E. F. Hutton And as I 354 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: date myself on that reference, but Beacham talking about stupid football? 355 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: Is it execution? What is happening on offense specifically? And 356 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: I think beach was referring to those last three three 357 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: and outs, and you know, he obviously didn't pinpoint it. 358 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: He didn't get real specific whether it could be certain 359 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: play calls, and you know, maybe he's referring to the 360 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: fourth and one. It's your him thirty four in this 361 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: second quarter where obviously resulted in the interception when you 362 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: went for DeAndre Hopkins a pass that was short. Again 363 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: another deep throw that is off the mark. But when 364 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: you have Kyler in the gun on fourth and inches 365 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: instead of under center, when you have a running back 366 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: in that first half Augen about six yards of carry, 367 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: do you go down swinging with what got you there, 368 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: with what got you down the field so often in 369 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: that first half, instead you go for a lower percentage 370 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: play against one of the best cover safeties in the NFL, 371 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: Drowing James. So okay, that could be an example of 372 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: what he's talking about. It could be just in terms 373 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: of not maybe maximizing certain matchups and looking out there 374 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: and saying, all right, you know, we got a Hollywood 375 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: Brown on a certain backup corner. Remember, the Chargers are 376 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: about as banged up as the Cardinals, and I just 377 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: thought they could have done a better job of exploiting, 378 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: especially in the secondary, some of those backup cornerbacks, and 379 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: they didn't quite get as much production out of a 380 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown as I thought, or maybe even go as 381 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: often to DeAndre Hopkins. You know, the eyeball test is 382 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: he got his fair share of targets as he should. 383 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: But that could easily been a game where Dander Hopkins 384 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: had fifteen targets. And so it is. How what he's 385 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: talking about. Is he talking about perhaps you know, certain 386 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: run schemes that you know in the first half. It 387 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: was interesting because it looked a little different at times. 388 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: You're like, wait a minute, is this a different run 389 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: game with Steve Hyden because it's hard not to notice 390 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: on the sideline Sean Kugler has been such a fixture 391 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: for so many years, and to see Steve Hyden with 392 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: the offensive line and then we're standing right next to 393 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury as he calls plays and giving input on 394 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: run okay. And I asked two different offensive linemen after 395 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: the game. They said, no, there's no time to put 396 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: in a different run scheme. Now, whether some of the 397 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: different plays utilize in the playsheet, but yeah, you know, 398 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: the football IQ thing falls under self inflicted. So what 399 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: he meant exactly by that, only he knows. But you know, 400 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind that that was a message, 401 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: whether it was two players in terms of their assignments 402 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: and knowing and now making those mental airs, and or 403 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: to the coach staff if you see a trend, exploit it, 404 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: continue with it, keep hitting them over the head with 405 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: it until they stop it. That's the NFL way. And 406 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: sometimes I think the Cardinals get in their own way 407 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: and don't maximize perhaps some of those advantages you saw 408 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: out in that field. James Conner carry the ball twenty 409 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: five times, should have been twenty eight, twenty nine, maybe 410 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: up to thirty carries in that game, just based off 411 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: his success. And to your point about de hop in 412 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown first time on the field together, we're waiting 413 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: until after Thanksgiving to see those two on the field. 414 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: Brown targeted eight times, Hopkins targeted six times. Should both 415 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: of those been in double digits? Now, you only had 416 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: twenty nine pass attempts, so you were balanced on offense. 417 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: But was the ball going to the right player in 418 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: those runs and in those pass attempts? Yeah, and we're 419 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: their play that Kyler Murray checked into or out of 420 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: it the line of scrimmage that only the offensive lineman 421 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: know that. Perhaps you know what it came in as 422 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: one play and they ended up running another, for example, 423 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: the fourth end one that went to hop Where was 424 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: it originally designed to go? Only only the Cardinals know that? 425 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: And how many of those players are being changed in 426 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage or when they're radioed in? Okay, 427 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: now wait a minute, are there you know? Because once 428 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: again Kyler Murray has remind us this season that he 429 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: has quote free rate to do what he wants to do. 430 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: So to what degree are they losing something? In translation 431 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: from what's coming in from the sideline to what's being 432 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: snapped and run or vice versa. But once again, there's 433 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: nobody I'd rather talk to on the offensive side of 434 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: the ball after a game than the guy who is 435 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: mister football IQ, and that's Kelvin Beecham. And so he 436 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: gave us a little window into into some of what 437 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: we'll see. We'll see here, especially during the bye week 438 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: when you get into self scouting and Okay, what are 439 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: the tendencies? What can we do to try and put 440 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: a stop the things that have plagued the offense the 441 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: entirety of this season through twelve games. Because unless there's 442 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: significant improvement, there will be change. There will be blood 443 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: this offseason, not necessarily with a head coach of the GM, 444 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: especially considering the contract extensions, but the roster absolutely, there 445 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: will absolutely be change. And so at this point I 446 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: think you need to prove to the coaching staff and 447 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: the decision makers that you're part of the solution and 448 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: not part of the problem. By the way, did you 449 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: catch what Beacham had to say to you at the 450 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: end of that interview? You thanked him? Yep? Because I 451 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, he was the only one that you got postgame, 452 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: and it's very difficult after a loss. But he said 453 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: this anytime now. I'm sure it was a throwaway line, 454 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: but I heard that. I was like, okay, well, let 455 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: me just make Kevin Beacham a regular on the post game. Hey, 456 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: I'd be all for that and a lot of respect, 457 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: because honestly, that locker room was about as downbeat as 458 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: it's been all season. And I thought Cliff Kingsbury, who 459 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: then came in and always answers our questions, every single question, 460 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: whether the idiotic or not. And I definitely am responsible 461 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: for my share of idiot face questions, there's no doubt 462 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 1: about it. And Cliff Kingsbury answers him and for that 463 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: he gets much respect as well. But yeah, he was. 464 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: He was downbeat. He was dejected, as you know, not 465 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: a real surprise. But the respect I have for the 466 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: guys who will face the media after a loss and 467 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: a tough loss and and and actually answer all the questions, 468 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how how far that goes, you know, 469 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: with all of us in the media, and it should 470 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: go with everyone. If you see Cardinals players in front 471 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: of the cameras after a loss. To me, automatically, your 472 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: regard for that player should double because it's not easy 473 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: and a lot of guys don't make themselves available and 474 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: so um. Once again, much respect to Kelvin Beachum, and 475 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: he gave us straight answers. You know, he pretty much 476 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: told it as much as he can without creating a 477 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: firestorm of what he sees as plaguing this team right now. 478 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Questions that we still have looking back at Sunday's lost 479 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: the Chargers, the fumble that wasn't and the interception that wasn't. 480 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: You asked Cliff post game about it, and it's hard 481 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: to get an explanation immediately in the midst of the game, 482 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: but one I thought it was an outstanding play by 483 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: trayvon Mullen to get the ball out of Palmer's hands, 484 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: and I thought, at least initially it was a Cardinals recovery. 485 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: There was a television time out, However, did that allow 486 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: either someone in the booth upstairs or New York extra 487 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: time to look at that play, because when you did 488 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: see the replay, it did look like there was both 489 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: a Cardinals player and a Chargers player with hands on 490 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: the football. And as gene Strator CBS's rules analysts said, 491 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: quote tie goes to the offense is saballa? What's going on? 492 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: I honestly had never really heard that before. All I 493 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: know is there was a lot of dismay on the 494 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: cardinal's sideline. You know, are you serious? You could really 495 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: tell from the replay exactly. I mean there was a 496 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: pile of humanity and you always hear the ball changes hands. 497 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: Ron Wiefully talks about all of the the ball might 498 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: change hands like half a dozen times in the midst 499 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: of a pile. So you saw it. I didn't the 500 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: TV angle they actually had a clear shot. There was 501 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: a camera angle that actually penetrated the massive humanity and 502 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: gave you a clear view an angle into the pile. 503 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: It was slow motion, so I don't know what happened immediately, 504 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: like if that was like a split second and all 505 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden there's just a bum rush of players 506 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: on top. But yeah, you could see in that angle 507 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: that they showed on CBS that there was it was 508 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: mulling and it was what was it Michael Bondi that 509 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: had hands on the football. But see sort of like, okay, 510 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: if you can rule to catch not a catch, not 511 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: only you have to have your hands on the football, 512 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: you have to control it. So whereas a Chargers player 513 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: might have had a hand on it, did he ultimately 514 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: have complete control of it and possession of it? You know? 515 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: Did the replay last long enough to determine that that, Yeah, 516 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: there's no way. And then on the Zaven Collins was 517 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: at truly indisputable video evidence that he didn't have his 518 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: arms between the ball and the turf, that he didn't 519 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: control the ball enough before and or had hit the turf. 520 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: You know, once again, on the sideline, there was a 521 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: lot of dismay, a lot of people scoffing that there 522 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: was indisputable video evidence to overturn the call on the field, 523 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: which is what you're supposedly need. Yeah, once again, that 524 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: was another overturn that didn't go to Cardinals way. It 525 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: did look on replay as if one you could definitely 526 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: tell the ball was moving. The question is where was 527 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: Zavan's hands? Did he because the ball can move and 528 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: the ball can touch the ground as long you have 529 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: possession of the football. And again, going back to CBS's 530 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: Gene territory, he noticed that there was claire and obvious 531 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: that the ball moving as it hit the ground, so 532 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: that all obviously nullifies possession and a clean catch by 533 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: Zavian Collins, who was adamant post game that he had 534 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: both hands under the football and it was a bad 535 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: angle by TV because not an optical illusion, but he 536 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: was pretty adamant that he had control of the football. 537 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: That's your point, what's the call on the field, and 538 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: then what do you need in order to reverse that call? 539 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: Clear and obvious? In both instances, I don't know if 540 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: it was clear and obvious. And when we're slowing down 541 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: these plays, Paul in like split second frames, at that point, 542 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, what did your eyes tell you 543 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: initially go to your initial reaction unless again, you have obvious, 544 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: definitive proof. But we're slowing down these plays, and this 545 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: goes across the board all professional sports and even in 546 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: college sports as well. These officials have a hard they're 547 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: right more than they're wrong, But now all of a sudden, 548 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: you're magnifying every little detail, and that I think is 549 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: the frustration part for a lot of fans and athletes 550 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: as well. Look, I'm all in favor of replay because 551 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: I want to get it right, and you hate to 552 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: see a team lose or losing a sequence based on 553 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: an incorrect call. But you're right when it's getting into 554 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: hyper slow mo and you're examining individual frames of the video. 555 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: Not only is it difficult to pallet if you're at 556 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: the stadium, you're at home. You know, let's go while 557 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: we're young. But I think it just becomes counterproductive to 558 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: the essence of the game and making plays in real time, 559 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: full speed, full contact football. So you know, with that 560 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: in mind, Okay, you gotta live with it. Once again, 561 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: did the game ultimately come down to that? No, not necessarily. 562 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: Did you lose the turnover battle negative two? Yes? And 563 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: your odds of winning a game when you lose a 564 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: turnover battle negative two? Guess what I think it's like 565 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: you only have a fifteen percent chance of winning. I 566 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: think if you win the turnover battle two none against 567 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: another team. I remember the staff from earlier in the year, 568 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury said, NFL history says you have an eighty 569 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: five percent chance of winning the game. So right there, 570 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are behind the eight ball. But that wasn't it, 571 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, that wasn't just it. I mean, you had 572 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: a defense that although they had four sacks and they 573 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: had eight tackles for loss. There were too many times 574 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: where Justin Herbert was able to extend the play, too 575 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: many times where he was able to use that elite 576 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: arm talent and make place on the run. And so 577 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of different things you can 578 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: look at if you're the Cardinals right now and say 579 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: to yourself, well, you know what the adjustments the game 580 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: of adjustments went the Chargers a way. When you have 581 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: when you have Justin Herbert starts three of eight but 582 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: ends up thirty five of forty seven, and you don't 583 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: get a takeaway in the game from a guy who 584 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: had gone five straight games throwing an interception, you know 585 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: that That's where I think you really you missed a 586 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy. Obviously, Antonio Hamilton left for part of the 587 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: game when the Cardinals had Marco Wilson and Tray von 588 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: mull and I can tell you him, Vance Joseph looked 589 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: a little concerned. I mean he was. He was pretty 590 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: adamant on the sideline talking to those two guys, trying 591 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: to get them coached up because all of a sudden 592 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: the roles had changed. Antonio Hamilton was the one traveling 593 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: with Keenan Allen and now all of a sudden, Okay, 594 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: we had some trickle down here, and you could see 595 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: the urgency in the look on Vance Joseph's space, in 596 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: his voice, and he was trying to coach those guys 597 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: up immediately on the sideline. And so you know, you 598 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: can only take so many blows to your game plan 599 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: where all of a sudden, guess what, it becomes a 600 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: serious liability. And I thought the Chargers did a good 601 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: job and justin Herbert did a good job of spreading 602 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: the ball around to some no name receivers who made place. 603 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: And that leads us here on Cardinals cover too, presented 604 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: by Hunday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. This team 605 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: going into the bye week, Paul, and yeah, they need 606 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: a mental break, they need a physical break. They and 607 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers the only two teams with a buy 608 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: in week thirteen. But you brought up Byron Murphy missing 609 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: another game with a back issue. We saw DJ Humphries 610 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: go on IR with a back issue, and now Rondel 611 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: Moore Greg Dortch, and that trickled down. How many hits 612 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: can this offensive line take to still hold up? And 613 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: do pretty well against the Chargers. Just the one sack, 614 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: one quarterback hit obviously came at a bad time for 615 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and in the secondary that continues to get 616 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: beat up as well. You can have all the starting 617 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: depth you want, but those backups, and you brought it 618 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: up before the season even began. Cardinals defense, you have 619 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: eleven solid starters, But after that, what do you have? 620 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: And that's where this team now is feeling the real crunch. 621 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: When you lose four fifths of your offensive line, when 622 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: your wide receiver room is in and out, when you're 623 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: losing your number one tied end, your number one cornerback, 624 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: it's very difficult to maintain the level of play when 625 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: you're playing with so many backups. And you know what, 626 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: for all that being the case, I was, I'll be 627 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: honest with you, we're in the trust tree right here 628 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: on cover two. I was worried yesterday that, coming off 629 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: a short week Mexico City, all the injuries, the playoffs 630 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: not being a realistic possibility, that you might get a 631 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: team that caved in, that you might get a repeat 632 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: of the last time the Cardinals had played the Chargers, 633 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: which was twenty eighteen, Week twelve, exact same point in 634 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: the season. What happened in that game and that soccer 635 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: stadium in La forty five ten, the bottom fell out 636 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals got trounced. That was the Steve Wilkes here. 637 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: I had a bad feeling that might be the case 638 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: in Week twelve this year. You knew right away. You 639 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: knew from the get go, and we talked about a pregame. 640 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: You talked about it. I talked about with Drew Stanton 641 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: and bertrand Berry. Guess what, first five minutes of the game, 642 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: you'll know whether the Cardinals came to play or not. 643 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: Were they matching the physicality where they dictated in line 644 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. So for everything that wasn't in that game 645 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: against the Chargers, Cardinals did come out with the effort 646 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: and the energy and the intensity. It was there, and 647 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: so that made you that at least put a little 648 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: wind in your sail to get things going, because I 649 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: was apprehensive as to what sort of effort was going 650 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: to come out on that field. Now what happens going forward? 651 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: How did he come out of this? By you're playing 652 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: out the string, you got five games less. Yes, yes, 653 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: everybody's playing for a job and or a contract. I 654 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: get it, but there are certain trends that need to change. 655 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: Like right now you're looking at the final defensive stats. 656 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: Four of your top five tacklers defensive backs, Marco Wilson 657 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: tied with the Isaiah Simmons for most tackles in the game. 658 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: That's five straight games where a EB has led the 659 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 1: team and tackles, and and two of those five it's 660 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: been a cornerback. And so Antonio Hamilton a couple of 661 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: games ago, Marco Wilson in this game along with Isaiah Simmons. 662 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: That's not the way of Vans. Joseph draws it up. So, okay, 663 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: can you can you get back once again to playing 664 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: some more sound football the way the coaches envision it? 665 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: Do they have the parts? Yeah? Not only you trying 666 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: to figure out, okay, who's part of the problem, who's 667 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: part of the solution, But you're trying to figure out 668 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: which guys fit in this scheme and where Isaiah Simmons 669 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: this year started and he remains in the safety room 670 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: his position. Coaches Marcus Robertson, you know, it's it's kind 671 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: of reminding of Hassan Reddick a little bit. And so 672 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: where is his best position in the NFL. Does that 673 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: need to change? You need to adapt that? And a 674 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: Zaman Collins who ends up with three tackles in the game. Now, 675 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: I know they didn't come out and really emphasize the 676 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: run game all that much. Austin Ekeler didn't get thirty handoffs. 677 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: What were Austin Eckler's final rushing numbers, by the way, 678 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: because it didn't seem like like they emphasized him at all. 679 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: He only carried the ball five times for twenty yards. 680 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert was the Chargers leading rusher with thirty eight 681 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: yards on the ground, but a lot of those were 682 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: scrambles the defense losing side of him, and he had 683 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: all kinds of open space to run, whether it was 684 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: thirteen yard, ten yards or whatever it was. But yeah, 685 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: these these five games there, you know, forget any playoff discussion, 686 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: but these five games important. Who's here next year? Who's 687 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: not here next year? And look to me, yeah, okay, 688 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, thanks for asking. You want my You gotta 689 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: figure out the line of scrimmage. You gotta figure all right. 690 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: JJ Watt outstanding season, had another sack. What's his future? 691 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: He's in year two of a two year deal. Zach 692 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: Allen finally year of his contract, his rookie contract. What's 693 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: his situation? Byron Murphy Vans Joseph. I think open at least. 694 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: I raised an eyebrow the last time he met the 695 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: media and he said, you know, youve got to be 696 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: concerned when you have a young guy in a back issue. 697 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Is the Byron Murphy back issue 698 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: more serious than we might envision? Is that holding up 699 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: a contract extension of some sort? What does it mean 700 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: for DJ Humphreys for him to go on IR at 701 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: this point? Obviously the injury hasn't responded enough that they've 702 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: decided to put him on IR. But when you look 703 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: at this division and you look what the Niners have, 704 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: what the Seahawks are building. How the Seahawks just fleece 705 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos and they got picks and they got players. 706 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: So to me, I like the skill players the Cardinals have. 707 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: I can see this team really investing in the line 708 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: of scrimmage in the trenches. And if you go back 709 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: about a month ago, Vance Joseph to the media and 710 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: I always read between the lines and this sort of stuff. 711 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: He sort of had a generic comment about how you 712 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: build a football team, and it's from the inside out 713 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: and whether you can dominate at the line of scrimmage 714 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: or not at what it does for a team and 715 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: everyone else around him. So that would that being the case, 716 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: I would do anything and everything you can to try 717 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: to assess where you stand on the old line in 718 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: d line and what needs to improve going forward always 719 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: starts up front, whether it's the offense or defense. And yeah, 720 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: there are several needs, but no bigger than I think 721 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 1: on the offensive line and figuring out the defensive line. 722 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: Who's behind Zach Allen. We presume he's back under a 723 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: new contract. JJ Watt his future you mentioned it, but 724 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: outside of that, like he vowed to Richard Lawrence, another 725 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: player done for the year. I are so you're starting 726 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: nose tackle. It's been gone most of the year. Who 727 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: this team really likes and plays well when he's healthy, 728 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: but it's availability that's been his biggest issue. And then 729 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: there's Skyler Murray. You've got to make this your team. 730 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: I look him getting out there, and the burst look good, 731 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: the athleticism looked good. He didn't seem to be hampered 732 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: at all by that hamstring injury. But I would surmise 733 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: is to say he needs to continue to build his 734 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: cred in the locker room as a twenty five year old. 735 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: You know, get in there and make sure that you 736 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: have everybody's respect, because you can be a leader only 737 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: if everyone's following. You got to be that guy. And 738 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: and then you know, try try and work with everyone 739 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: on the offense to try and make sure some of 740 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: these issues that have popped up all year, you know, 741 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: don't continue. You can't be your own worst enemy. And 742 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: so we'll see one plus one has to equal three, 743 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: I guess, and have we seen that yet? And if not, 744 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: why not? And during the bye week it's a great 745 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: time to try and diagnose some of that and implement 746 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: changes down the stretch. And if at least you can 747 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: get some immediate improvements and you know you're on the 748 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: right path, otherwise there might be a totally different path 749 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: in the offseason. Let's leave everyone with this. Kelvin Beacham 750 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: on the states of the team to reporters in the 751 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: locker room, without question, the light is still on. It's 752 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: very very dim, but we have our opportunity to come 753 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: out of the bike, get healthy, find a way to 754 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: put a couple of games together and try to close 755 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: out the year the right way quote. And there's no 756 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,959 Speaker 1: momentum in the NFL. There isn't. But if you once 757 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: again can get a couple of games where guys start 758 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: to believe in each other and believe in the direction, 759 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: then that can carry through into an off season where 760 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: guys might be a little more apt to be there 761 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: in person, and guys might be a little more app 762 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: to recruit some of their friends. And you know, I 763 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: can go. I can at least, you know, get a 764 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: little traction to have players take a look, Okay, they're 765 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: going in the right direction. I might want to be 766 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: part of that. And so we know free agency signings 767 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: went in doubt. If they're close, guys are more apt 768 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: to go to a winning team or teams that have 769 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: prospect of winning because guess what, it can make for 770 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: better incentives, It can make for more off field opportunities. 771 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: And then you have Hard Knocks looming, which is going 772 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: to document every single moment theoretically of the rest of 773 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: this season. So what do you want to put your 774 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: name in face on because Hard Knocks will be there 775 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: and potentially anything could end up on the show. Episode 776 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: four coming up on Wednesday. But yeah, documenting everything that 777 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 1: we see and maybe things that we don't see, figuring 778 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: out what this twenty twenty two Arizona Cardinals team is 779 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: all about, and then moving forward into perhaps a very 780 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: busy offseason ahead. And on that note, we'll pit a 781 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals Covered two, presented by 782 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: Hunday Probab partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special 783 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: thanks to our executive producer Jim Almandro For Paul Kalbisi, 784 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm Craig Rayel Loup. We'll talk to you next time 785 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: you're on Cardinals Cover two