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Speaker 1: Happy Saturday to you, Carrie Rhoads. How are you, Dan?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well, beautiful Saturday morning, early, but ready to

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Speaker 2: get after it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's be honest here. We are about to embark

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Speaker 1: on the enshrine into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: The busts are going to be unveiled, speeches are going

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Speaker 1: to be given. Do you still have withdrawal at this

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Speaker 1: time of year, like knowing that it's early August and

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Speaker 1: you're not putting on the pads, you're not putting on

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Speaker 1: the helmet, or has that gone away for you? Carrie?

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Speaker 1: Is this a tough time of year or is it

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Speaker 1: a great time of year?

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Speaker 2: This is like a nice spa day for me right now.

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Speaker 2: Not happened to be out there and that's sun especially

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years in Arizona, it was just unbearable,

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Speaker 2: unbearably hot, and so the thing about not putting on

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Speaker 2: the pads and the helmets and you know, in all

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Speaker 2: the all the extra padding for the guy that's getting.

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Speaker 3: Older in age, it feels Bill's kind of good right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's funny because Brett Favre would, you know,

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Speaker 1: tease retirement year after year, and well what it would be.

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Speaker 1: It would be like Farv's body would hurt so much

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year. He'd be like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I want to do this, and then

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Speaker 1: summertime would come along and he'd start getting the itch.

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Speaker 1: But from everything like that, I'd never played anywhere near

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Speaker 1: your guys' level. Yeah, but I just know when my

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Speaker 1: summers in high school were winding down and football was

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Speaker 1: coming up, I was kind of like, oh man, my

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Speaker 1: summer's over with and so like I never understood, like

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Speaker 1: I get like apparently far just like got the itch

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Speaker 1: and others get the itch in July, but I felt

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Speaker 1: like that itch would come like late August, early September

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Speaker 1: when the real games are going because I just don't

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Speaker 1: know who would have an itch to show up for

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Speaker 1: training camp or two a day's back, you know, when

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Speaker 1: you play like I have no idea why anybody would want.

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Speaker 2: To do that, Dan, I don't think it's about the

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Speaker 2: it's football. I think is about the itch of getting

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Speaker 2: out the house. There's a different there's a difference. So

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Speaker 2: I think that probably, you know, kind of helps to

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Speaker 2: don't think anybody really relishes the dog days of camp.

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Speaker 1: So that's where we are right now in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of getting out of the house, Arizona, Arizona

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Speaker 1: State in Utah got out of their house. Oregon and

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Speaker 1: Washington got out of their house as well, those schools

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Speaker 1: leaving the PAC twelve. And it's the story that everybody

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Speaker 1: is talking about today. Carrie, I know you went to Louisville.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big ten guy. Iowa, Sam and our staff

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Speaker 1: obviously a big ten guy as well. These sort of things.

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Speaker 1: Your conference where Louisville right now has kind of been untouched.

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Speaker 1: There are some rumblings of what could happen with the ACC,

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Speaker 1: but the PAC twelve is now in shambles. Oregon Washington

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the embracement part is going to take some time

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Speaker 1: It's I think it's a matter of time before the

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Speaker 1: you know, the the games at the Rose Bowl, and

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Speaker 1: national championship. It's funny, though, Carrie, because that has been

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Speaker 1: I don't want the Rose Bowl to be ruined. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one thing that sticks, you know, comes

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Speaker 2: it's it's becoming just a business, and obviously that's kind

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Speaker 1: Iowa. Sam is our technical producer of the show, and

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, a huge uh you know college football fan,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I was just thinking, you know, the even the patch,

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Speaker 3: I guess if that's even.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when they reveal, when they reveal the uniforms that

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I mean it just it just it means

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Speaker 3: Rose and it does mean something.

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Speaker 4: It means something for college football in a new year.

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Speaker 2: Sam, I think it's kind of neck and neck with

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Speaker 2: a little Seasars bawl, right, right?

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Speaker 3: Is that what the sulu?

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Speaker 1: They should put two patches for the little Caesars. That

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Speaker 1: that's what they should be on both sides if you're

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Speaker 4: Him going through the gate, like it's still meant something

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Speaker 4: But it was still like you still kind of count

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Speaker 4: you're talking about something that they average once a decade

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Speaker 4: if that, so it's it is something special, And like

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Speaker 4: Iowa hasn't won a Rose Bull since nineteen fifty nine.

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Speaker 4: So you're like, it's like something that's always out of grasp.

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Speaker 4: It's just like, and you know what, the only way

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Speaker 4: I think that the Rose Bull can be saved and

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Speaker 4: it'll look different and won't have the same feel is

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Speaker 4: if it's a playoff game and it means something on

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Speaker 4: I don't know how really you can save the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 4: The Rose Bull itself as a venue will always be there.

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Speaker 1: But I agree, I agree that the Rose Bull is

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Speaker 1: part of of the College Football Playoff. However, the only

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Speaker 1: thing that I would just say to that is it's

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Speaker 1: just it's it's not going to be the same. It

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Speaker 1: be a part. You know, I sat there and wondered,

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Speaker 1: all right, will Arizona actually be able to make it

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Speaker 1: not even we don't even know all the conferences are

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Speaker 1: it in the College Football Playoff, it's not doesn't come

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the lure of playing, you know, checking that roster

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Speaker 1: do want to put a bow on something because Iowa, Sam,

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Speaker 1: it's been kicking himself for the last six minutes thinking

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Speaker 1: that ray Rice was a member of the Louisville team

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Speaker 1: and only really really Sam, Right, this was like a

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Speaker 1: two minute like faux paw in your brain. This is

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Speaker 1: a two minute essentially brain fart. Right, Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 4: I crossed the streams a little bit in historically.

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Speaker 1: It's totally fine.

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Speaker 3: I am not.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to harp on that. It's I would.

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Speaker 1: I would. I'd be the same as Sam as being like, man,

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Speaker 1: why did I do that? That was? That was crazy.

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Speaker 1: What I wanted to do, though, is bring up the

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Speaker 1: point and Carrie mentioned it. It was the first year

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Speaker 1: that they were in the Big East. Was the year

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Speaker 1: after you left, right, Kerry Right. So that season that

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Speaker 1: Sam had it mixed up, you had Rutgers, West Virginia,

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Speaker 1: and Louisville all in the race for the Conference Crown,

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Speaker 1: and I had to I remember I covered the blackout

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Speaker 1: game at Louisville when they played West Virginia on the

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Speaker 1: Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: I was there.

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Speaker 1: Were you and I were there? We were probably I

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Speaker 1: was at the media. There were so many media in

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Speaker 1: that game, and at that time the stadium was a

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Speaker 1: little smaller, maybe wasn't equipped. Yes, I had to sit

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Speaker 1: outside on a perch because they didn't have seats inside

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Speaker 1: the press box for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was crazy, Dan, Yeah, me and I think

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Speaker 2: it was a bideek for me. Me and Jonathan Billmore

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Speaker 2: went to the game. So it was actually actually fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you guys won. And then it was

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Speaker 1: the next week though that then you ended up going

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Speaker 1: to Rutgers and then at Louisville did not you, but

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Speaker 1: the Louisville Cardinals went to Rutgers, I believe. And that's

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Speaker 1: when Jeremy Edo kicked the game winning field goal and

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Speaker 1: pointed to the skycam. That one of the memorable moments

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Speaker 1: in college football because they had the skycam over the

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Speaker 1: field and he makes the field goal and immediately points

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Speaker 1: to it. Two things they just wanted to point out.

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Speaker 1: Number One, that was seventeen years ago. It seems like

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Speaker 1: it was yesterday. But think of what I've mentioned. Louisville

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Speaker 1: in the Big East, right, Louisville now in the ACC West,

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Speaker 1: Virginia in the Big East, they're in the Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: Rutgers in the Big East, they're in the Big ten,

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Speaker 1: and the Big East doesn't play football anymore. Like that is,

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Speaker 1: like it is crazy to think like that was seventeen

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Speaker 1: years ago. It's fresh in our memory. But how things change.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that puts a little bit of what just happened

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Speaker 1: over the last twenty four to forty eight hours into perspective.

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Speaker 2: Listens, let's not take Sam all the way off the hook. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I really look up. I really look up to Sam's information.

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Speaker 2: He's very quick with it, he's very accurate with it.

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Speaker 2: He came over apologize. I accept his apology. But you know,

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Speaker 2: let's not put him completely off the hook.

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Speaker 1: Dan oh Man, the red uniforms probably it was a

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Speaker 1: red and red.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to all this movement, these teams. You know, Miami

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Speaker 4: was in the Big East once upon a time. Finally

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Speaker 4: you had all you know, and the Big East is

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Speaker 4: now a Jesuit basketball league, you know.

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Speaker 1: And man, that's crazy though, I just I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about that. I'm like, gosh, look at where all these

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Speaker 1: teams at one point in their paths through college sports

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Speaker 1: all intersected at this point in like two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna get to what Jamar Chase said.

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Speaker 1: In just a second, Carrie, do you want to throw

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Speaker 1: it over to Isaac Longcron, who is here with the

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Speaker 1: latest on the Saturday morning. I know buss are starting

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Speaker 1: to be unveiled in so much more. What's going on, Isaac.

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Speaker 8: Indeed, as we speak at the Pro Football Hall of

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Speaker 8: Fame induction ceremonies, the first to be inducted linebacker Zach Thomas.

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Speaker 8: He is up on the podium right now and he

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Speaker 8: was presented by his former head coach Jimmy Johnson. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 8: New Orleans Saints head coach Dennis Allen just announced that

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Speaker 8: running back Eno Benjamin has been diagnosed with a torn

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Speaker 8: achilles extra notable, of course, given the fact that Saints

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Speaker 8: running back Alvin Kamara was suspended yesterday for the first

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Speaker 8: three games of the season. Atlanta Falcons head coach Arthur

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Speaker 8: Smith said today that cornerback Jeff Okuda is expected a

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Speaker 8: return early in the regular season from an ankle injury.

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Speaker 8: He was carted off the practice field yesterday after sustaining

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Speaker 8: that injury. The Indian Outs Colts today signed free agent

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Speaker 8: running back Kenyan Drake. On Friday, the Pack twelve Conference

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Speaker 8: went from nine teams to four teams. First, it was

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Speaker 8: Oregon and Washington, leaving for the Big Ten. Arizona, Arizona

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Speaker 8: State and Utah followed them out the door for the

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Speaker 8: Big twelve conference, and Dan and Carey I have obtained

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Speaker 8: exclusive audio of Pack twelve executives discussing yesterday's developments.

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Speaker 9: Listen, when can we get on the way?

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Speaker 10: Demi's five compartments?

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Speaker 2: She can stay afloat with the first four compartments breach,

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Speaker 2: but not five, not five.

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Speaker 10: There's no stopping it.

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Speaker 1: But this shift counts.

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Speaker 3: I assure you she can and she will.

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Speaker 5: It is a mathematical certain team.

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Speaker 8: Hopefully for Pac twelve fans heart there, their hearts will

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Speaker 8: go on. Finally, the knockout ro out of the Women's World

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Speaker 8: Cup kicked off overnight. Spain defeated Switzerland five to one.

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Speaker 8: Japan a three to one victory over Norway. Japan will

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Speaker 8: face either Team USA or Sweden in the quarterfinals. The

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Speaker 8: USA Sweet match kicks off at five am Eastern Time

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Speaker 8: on Sunday morning. Japan, by the way, four and oh

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Speaker 8: at the World Cup and has outscored its opponents fourteen

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Speaker 8: to one.

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Speaker 9: Dan and Carrie back to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Isaac. It is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: If you want to reach us out on social media.

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Speaker 1: Hit us up. I'm at Dan Byron Fox on X

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Speaker 1: and you can find Kerrie at Carrie twenty five Roads.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear what Jamar Chay said earlier this week

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Speaker 1: on the NFL Network carry.

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Speaker 3: I missed it, but I'm excited to hear.

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Speaker 1: You're about to hear it. Is he sat down with

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Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliano and Brian Baldinger and they were talking about

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's calf injury and the health of Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: and the start of the regular season. This was that

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Speaker 1: exchange earlier on the NFL Network.

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Speaker 9: Do you have any doubt that he'll be there week one?

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Speaker 11: I told him. I told him that, with all honesty,

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Speaker 11: I don't want him there. You don't want him to

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Speaker 11: play by one. Same thing with me mom last week

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Speaker 11: and week twenty exactly.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 11: And I sat out an extra game just to let

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Speaker 11: my hip hill up.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 11: You know you don't want to cause no other problems

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Speaker 11: later on in the season. You know, I told him,

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Speaker 11: as long as you're there at the week five and on,

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Speaker 11: you know, we're good.

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Speaker 1: Brother. What did he say to that? I'm sorry?

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Speaker 3: Did he did he respond to that.

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Speaker 11: I mean, he just told me. You know, he's going

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Speaker 11: to see how he feels when Tom comes. You know,

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Speaker 11: he doesn't know when he'll be back, but you know

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Speaker 11: he'll be back soon. And you know what time will do.

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Speaker 1: Would it be wise for the Bengals to play it

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Speaker 1: super safe with Joe Burrow and hold him out not

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Speaker 1: maybe not even one, but five games to what Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase said, or is Jamar Chase crazy?

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Speaker 2: Chase is crazy? I mean it's it's not he doesn't

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Speaker 2: have that much time. I mean, the the AFC is

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Speaker 2: it's really good. If he missed five weeks, they will

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Speaker 2: be so far behind the eight ball that they may

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Speaker 2: not be able to make it up. So he's that good.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy that obviously makes that engine. It makes

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Speaker 2: an engine run, makes that team go. So five weeks

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Speaker 2: is a little much.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think that I agree with you there.

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Speaker 1: I do think he's onto something. Though he talked about

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Speaker 1: his own hip injuries and you know, and I gave

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Speaker 1: a little time. I think you can. I think you

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Speaker 1: could do that with a lot of positions in the NFL. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you just can't do it with the quarterback. You can't

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Speaker 1: keep out a guy for five weeks and be like

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be okay, like that, that can't happen. And

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Speaker 1: we know a quarterback, by the way, could hit get

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Speaker 1: hurt on the first snap after missing the previous five weeks.

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Speaker 1: So there's there's always the danger of your quarterback getting injured.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that there when the NFL, when

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Speaker 1: the talk about the NFL going to eighteen games and

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Speaker 1: expanding in the regular season, and you know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do double bye weeks, remember the proposition that was, well,

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Speaker 1: guys could only somebody was proposing that maybe players could

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Speaker 1: only play sixteen games of a seventeen game schedule or

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Speaker 1: seventeen games of an eighteen game schedule. I think it's like,

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Speaker 1: on the surface, it seems really crazy, But being being

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Speaker 1: careful with these guys, I don't think that Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: is too far off of what we now see in

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Speaker 1: the NFL because I think the added week carry has

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Speaker 1: made the season much much longer. And now when you

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Speaker 1: see the success now Kansas City did just come off

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Speaker 1: of a super Bowl win against the top seeded Eagles,

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Speaker 1: I understand that, but the previous season we saw the

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Speaker 1: Rams and Bengals make crazy runs to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers the year prior got hot at the end of

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Speaker 1: the year. I think that to set up and Brian Baldinger,

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Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger even jumped in saying like, yeah, you want

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Speaker 1: them week twenty, And I think that that's the premise

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Speaker 1: that Chase was getting to and Baldinger was agreeing to.

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Speaker 1: It's you want to make sure that your guys are

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Speaker 1: ready towards the end of the season. So while it

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Speaker 1: may sound crazy for Jamar Chase to say that his

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Speaker 1: quarterback should miss the first five weeks of the season,

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Speaker 1: if there are other players, I think you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: that more and more with training camp injuries of guys

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Speaker 1: being held out just because of the absolute grind that

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Speaker 1: it is now with the extra added game.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was a percent. Yeah, you want to be careful.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to rush back from injuries. You want

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Speaker 2: to make sure your guys are ready to go. You

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Speaker 2: know when the games, you know when you really need

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Speaker 2: them and it really really counts. But football is such

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Speaker 2: a different animal because you lose a couple of games, uh,

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Speaker 2: in the in the NFL season and you're so far

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Speaker 2: behind the eight ball that it makes it. It just

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Speaker 2: makes it unrealistic. Unrealistically, You're not going to get in it.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get back in in in a

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Speaker 2: place to make noise. So you always want to be

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Speaker 2: able to make noise in the NFL. And so five

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Speaker 2: weeks Cincinnati really good team, but we all know Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrows is the is the guy that stirs that coffee.

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Speaker 2: So five weeks is a bit much. Being costs is

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Speaker 2: a different story, though.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a reason why I think that he said

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Speaker 1: five weeks.

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Speaker 3: What's the schedule? What's the schedule?

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Speaker 1: You know where this is going. You know where this

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Speaker 1: is going at Cleveland to open up now, big rivalry game, obviously,

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Speaker 1: don't want to miss it week to the Those are

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Speaker 1: two games. I'm sorry you need Joe Burrow for those games.

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Speaker 1: But afterwards it's the Rams on Monday Night football and

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl Super Bowl rematch of Super Bowl fifty six.

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Speaker 1: Then you're at Tennessee in at Arizona. Okay, those are

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Speaker 1: your first five games, and that is why I think.

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Speaker 1: And then you have the Seahawks, Niners, Bills, and you

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Speaker 1: get into a stretch where you start to face the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: you face the Ravens again, and you have the Steelers

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Speaker 1: in Jaguars. So but I think that there was a

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Speaker 1: think that that was probably the reason why Dan.

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Speaker 2: So, if Joe doesn't play those first five games, what

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Speaker 2: do you think that's their record would be?

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Speaker 3: Right now? Because I have my opinion already, but go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I would say, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: they would be Cleveland or Baltimore. And I would say

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Speaker 1: I would say two and three. There'd be a game

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Speaker 1: in there that we thought maybe that they would win,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't. So I'd say two and three.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what I would say. We're right on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know which game would like catch them

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Speaker 1: by surprise, you know if you will. But I think

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Speaker 1: that Jamar Chase did look at the schedule, and so

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Speaker 1: I also give him kudos and the thumbs up for

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Speaker 1: all right, when the Seahawks come around, then then you

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Speaker 1: can be ready because then the week after you have

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, And he set it up that way,

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Speaker 1: but you have that stretch against the Rams Titans and Cardinals, who,

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Speaker 1: by all means who knows, could be fighting for the

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Speaker 1: number one pick in the NFL draft come next spring.

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Speaker 1: But Jamar Chase kind of knew what he was talking about.

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see I think you're gonna see, guys.

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Speaker 1: Rest But as long as the second half of the

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Speaker 1: season and the other the other obvious point is the

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Speaker 1: maybe get away with that in the NFC. There's no

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Speaker 1: way that is happening. In the AFC this year.

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Speaker 2: There's no shot. I mean, it's so many good teams.

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Speaker 2: I mean in the in the AFC East alone that

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Speaker 2: there's four teams that can make the playoffs. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: then you think about the AFC go although, guys, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy, Like.

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Speaker 1: I think Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh's gonna be better. You know,

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Speaker 1: we know Cincinnati and Baltimore will be there, right, and

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Speaker 1: then you'd have Cleveland off the gate. Weird scheduling and

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Speaker 1: I hate that the NFL does this. The Bengals start

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Speaker 1: their season with the Browns and end their season with

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Speaker 1: the Browns. It's it's too big of a gap to play,

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Speaker 1: you know, a huge in state rival. There is a

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Speaker 1: point where that Week eighteen game could be meaningless and

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Speaker 1: that's a shame with the two in state rivals. But

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Speaker 1: the NFL has their scheduling ways. That's for another day.

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Caerry that need to get to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, that want to get to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But realistically, there's only a select few that have actual

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Speaker 1: out the Chiefs and Egles because we feel that heck,

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Speaker 1: they were in last year's Super Bowl, they're super Bowl

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Speaker 1: contenders again. But I've got a list of about ten

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Speaker 1: or twelve teams, and I'm curious if you feel they

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Speaker 1: actually have a chance at making it the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: fifty eight. You ready to do this?

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Speaker 3: Let me get a let me get drum roll, Let's

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Speaker 3: go it.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it right. All right, here we go, Kerrie.

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Speaker 1: We are on the road. We are cruising the Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas all right, let's start it out. How about the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills spend a little crazy offseason, especially with Stefan

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Speaker 1: Diggs and Josh Allen maybe not being on the same page.

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Speaker 1: What are the Buffalo Bills? Do they do? They have

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Speaker 1: the do you believe they have a chance to get

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl fifty eight and Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: I do not, really, I do not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a where there's smoke, there's fire,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of things going on behind closed doors

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Speaker 2: that with that organization right now. I think with their

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Speaker 2: high profile players, I think now they're getting to that

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Speaker 2: point where they haven't maxed out that that ceiling yet

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Speaker 2: and now it's starting to get I think they're starting

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Speaker 2: to feel the pressure of it.

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Speaker 1: It's that roller coaster and now they're they're on the

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Speaker 1: way down to kind of hit that dip. What about

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals team we just talked about, Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: says Joe Burrow should miss five should miss five games

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Speaker 1: if it was up to him. Bengals, they have a

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Speaker 1: chance to get to Super Bowl fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: They have a chance to get to Super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 2: eight if Joe Burrows comes back before Week five.

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Speaker 1: So what about what about the Chargers?

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Speaker 2: The Chargers, they do they do have a chance. I

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Speaker 2: think they've been on the cusp there. They've been really

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Speaker 2: good offensively, defensively, they had to catch up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: If their coach stop stop using the analytics analytics so much,

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Speaker 2: they'll have a chance to make it.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, a change at offensive coordinator as well as Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore is their Last time we saw the Chargers was

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Speaker 1: then blowing a lead against the Jaguars in the AFC

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Speaker 1: Wildcard Round. What about Jacksonville? Does Doug Peterson's team have

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Speaker 1: a chance to get to Super Bowl fifty eight?

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Speaker 3: They have a slim chance to get there.

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Speaker 2: I'm not putting them on that's for sure, for certain,

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Speaker 2: but I do like the way they ended last year.

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Speaker 2: I think that they finally found Trevor Lawrence's comfortable spot

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Speaker 2: in that offense where he can really show his true colors.

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Speaker 3: And yes, I think they have a chance.

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Speaker 1: And so many people are high on Calvin Ridley coming

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Speaker 1: back from his suspension and being added to that offense

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Speaker 1: that already has tons of weapons with Travis Etn and

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk and having Ingram and yeah, it'll be It'll

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Speaker 1: be an exciting season in Jacksonville, for sure. Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: is safe and sound in Baltimore's got his money. Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham Junior is there. What about the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens definitely have a chance. I think they've been

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Speaker 2: really good regular season team when Lamar is healthy, haven't

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Speaker 2: performed well in the playoffs. But now the new offense,

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Speaker 2: the new weapons, a chance for him to really unleash

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Speaker 2: it and be be special. Give him a chance to

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Speaker 2: be special. I think he can so.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore, Yes, Carrie says that the road to the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl could go through Baltimore. What about Pittsburgh Steelers Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett second year as a starter?

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Speaker 2: Now, I don't think they have enough yet. I think

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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett's definitely on the rise and hearing all the

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Speaker 2: comments from camp and where he is now from in

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Speaker 2: his second year. Sam's really really good, and I love

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin as well. But I don't think they're a

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Speaker 2: super Bowl team.

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Speaker 12: All right.

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Speaker 1: You know what's now, it's the j E. T S Jets,

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Speaker 1: Jets Jets not led by Aaron Rodgers. What about them

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Speaker 1: going to Vegas?

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Speaker 2: They definitely have a chance. I can't say they don't.

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Speaker 2: They have a chance. You got you got the one

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Speaker 2: of the best triggerman in the game on your team.

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Speaker 2: You can feel the energy, you can feel the guys

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Speaker 2: really buying, buying what he's selling and what that team

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Speaker 2: is selling. So I would say yes, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: being a homer. I really think they can.

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Speaker 1: All right, one more from the AFC that will hit

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Speaker 1: the NFC, which doesn't have as many contenders. What about

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and those Patriots?

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Speaker 3: No chance, no chance?

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Speaker 2: And Belichick's great, obviously, but I think we need to

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Speaker 2: see if he can get it done without Brady and

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Speaker 2: that hasn't been the case so far. So we'll see,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Forgive me Dolphins and Raiders and Broncos fans time permitting

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Speaker 1: your team just did not get mentioned. Let's jump to

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Speaker 1: the NFC Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott. Do

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Speaker 1: they have a chance to go to Super Bowl fifty eight?

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Speaker 2: In the NFC they have a chance. If they're in

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Speaker 2: the AFSC, see, I would say no way, But NFC

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Speaker 2: they have a chance.

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Speaker 3: I hope that.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Dak's been open about his interception problem from last year.

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Speaker 2: He's hopefully, hopefully he's not thinking about that too much

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Speaker 2: and just comes out and plays. But yes, they have weapons,

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Speaker 2: they got a good defense. I love Dan Quinn. They

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Speaker 2: have a chance.

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Speaker 1: A couple more for you, what about the Giants? Sakwon

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Speaker 1: Barkley now on a contract, Daniel Jones has his deal.

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Speaker 1: Can the Giants make it the Super Bowl fifty eight?

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Speaker 2: The Giants there, they're they're the kings of looking like

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Speaker 2: they can't make it and make it in those Eli years.

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Speaker 2: And I just, you know, Daniel Jones reminds me of

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Speaker 2: him a little bit as far as he's under the

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Speaker 2: you know, he's he's okay, and then he's good, then

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Speaker 2: he's okay. So I don't know, but I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: And two more, Uh, the Lions. Everybody's favorite to win

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Speaker 1: the NFC well not everyone's, but a lot of favorite

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Speaker 1: to win the NFC North.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they.

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Speaker 2: I think they will win in the NFC North, but

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs yet super Bowl No.

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Speaker 1: And the Vikings last one. Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. Could

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Speaker 1: they be in sin City in mid February?

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Speaker 3: The Kirk Cousins story.

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Speaker 2: I love him now seeing him on the Netflix show Quarterback,

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Speaker 2: really became a fan.

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Speaker 3: But they will not get it done. I don't think

870
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: they have a chance either.

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Speaker 1: There. It is Carrie's Roads to the super Bowl. Heading

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Speaker 1: Sports Saturday. I'm Dan Bayern, He's Carrie Rhoades coming out next,

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Speaker 1: out what you missed in the first hour. What you

885
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: did miss was Carrie saying that he does not miss

886
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: the start of the NFL season and training camp. That

887
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: is something that he does knock a decade, about a

888
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: decade removed from the game and still does not have

889
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: the itch to go through any of it. Do you

890
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: think at any point in your life you're gonna be like, man,

891
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: I kind of wish I was I was at camp?

892
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: Or is that just not physically possible?

893
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dan, that ship has sailed. It's it's the rocky

894
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: waters are steel and calm and feels so much better

895
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: on this side. But you know what, but you know what, man,

896
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: I can't.

897
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: I can't.

898
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: I'd be remiss if I don't wish my buddy the

899
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: real reeve is a great enshrinement.

900
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: Today.

901
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: I was actually invited out and couldn't get out there.

902
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 2: My birthday just passed, so I had some stuff to

903
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: do here and happy birthday, Thank you Dan. Yeah, so

904
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't get out there, but I want to send

905
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: him as flowers. The best cover corner I've been around.

906
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: Seeing pleasure to call my teammate a guy that came

907
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: in right away, took him under my wing. He wanted

908
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 2: to learn the game, learned it well, and just took off.

909
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 3: Man, it was. It was a beautiful thing to see.

910
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: I remember a buddy of mine telling me he's also

911
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: in the in the media business. But he was based

912
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: in South Florida and there was you know, he was

913
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: at some football camp with fellow wide receivers. And this

914
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: was before Revis I think became Revis Island, and you know,

915
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: the question was asked. I don't know if it was

916
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: asked privately in a private conversation or if they were

917
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: you know, doing a broadcast or something. But you know

918
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: who was the best, you know, toughest corner that the

919
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: receivers had to face, and a couple of receivers that

920
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: were there without hesitation, said Derell Reevis. What made him

921
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: so great? How did you know of his greatness? Because

922
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't like straight out of pit He's mister lockdown

923
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: corner and Revis island like it seemed to take a

924
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: little while, but it felt like it felt like one

925
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: of those one of those things that the league knew

926
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: about it, but everybody else didn't know about it. When

927
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: did you know about it?

928
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: Well, I mean early on, man, I he I remember

929
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: coming in two thousand and seven, he was he was

930
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: holding out a little bit to get his get his

931
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: deal done, and so you started getting that negative, you know,

932
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: vibe around this kid coming in thinking these you know,

933
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: bigger than everybody else, or you know, you just have

934
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: those moments when you're in a team where things don't

935
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: look good. Coming in, you see that and you kind

936
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: of feel that energy. But I remember as soon as

937
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: he got in the building, he was just locked in.

938
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: He's just one of those guys that legit was all

939
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: about football and locking in to be the best version

940
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: of himself every day. And I was a guy that

941
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: learned when I came in early that you had to

942
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: study to really be really good in this league and

943
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: to separate yourself. Because we're all talented, we're all athletic,

944
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: we all have the gifts, but that's why we're there.

945
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: But to separate yourself, you needed to study the game

946
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: and be a student of the game. And he came

947
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: in right away, I mean literally literally wouldn't leave my side.

948
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: Wanted to study, like learn, learn, learn, And then you

949
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: could see like how he started to break down film

950
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: of receivers and guys. He was so intent on knowing

951
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 2: what could be happening to him on the field and

952
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: putting himself in the best positions to succeed. And so

953
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: that's what stood out the most. But also a physical

954
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: presence at the line. He just does not lose. He's

955
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: so patient, and a lot of guys, even when they

956
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 2: get beat or they get beat off the line, they

957
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: have that they lose their calm, they lose their wits.

958
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: He never did, I mean even if he even if

959
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: the guy got him off the line, he could play

960
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: through it and get back and always play calm. But

961
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: just very I think, as sure of himself. And I

962
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: think that was the biggest thing about you know, lockdown

963
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: baby Reeves at the time.

964
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: And Revis, I believe, and my opinion and interested in yours.

965
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: If Dion Sanders had his way and there was a

966
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: second floor and upper level penthouse suits of the Hall

967
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: of Fame, I think Darrell Reeves would be in that

968
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: penthouse suite like this is this is where the discussion

969
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame or is it the Hall

970
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: of very good kind of comes into play. Dion has

971
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: made a point over the last couple of years of saying,

972
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, they're listen, there are a bunch of great

973
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: guys that played football players, but they're elite football players

974
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: that are in the Hall of Fame, and to mix

975
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: them with maybe some of the others Dn's not not

976
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: a huge fan of I think Revis would be in

977
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: that penthouse level that Dion talks about. Do you feel

978
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: the same.

979
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: One, Yeah, the penthouse level thing is a little bit.

980
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: That's a little weird of a comment for me from Dion,

981
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: even though I know what you're saying, and if that's

982
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: the case in the sake of that argument, yes, Darrell

983
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: does belong to that, but the you know, the time,

984
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: the time periods, the way the game was played, all

985
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: of that changes. It's all different. So a person you

986
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 2: know from the forties or the fifties obviously wouldn't stack

987
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: up athletically to the guys you know in this age now,

988
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: and even the way the game has changed or blossom, right,

989
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: So with the advancement of the game, the advancement of

990
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: how you know, big, big and physical, these guys are now, like,

991
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: it just doesn't compute. So to try to separate the levels,

992
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 2: it's kind of hard. Obviously, I think there are some

993
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: guys in the Hall of Fame that you know, maybe

994
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: maybe got their off reputation and stuff like that, But

995
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's it's it's such

996
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: a hard thing to do and filter out. So I

997
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: just want to celebrate all the guys.

998
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, And I'm not going to put

999
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: you on the spot or make your name names, but

1000
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: I am going to point out a couple of things.

1001
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: And this kind of lends to the fact of what

1002
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: Dion is talking about. For a while, when the NFL,

1003
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: prior to the NFL Honors Show, they used to have

1004
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: a special ceremony as special press conference on the Saturday

1005
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl because I had to cover a

1006
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: bunch of them carrying the media on Super Bowl weeks

1007
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: where the Hall of Fame class was revealed. And now

1008
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: they they reveal it and they do the videos and

1009
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: they do the Knox and the players kind of know

1010
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: a few days, you know in advance that they you

1011
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: know that they are going into the Hall of Fame.

1012
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: But usually it was guys are waiting in hotels, they're

1013
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: waiting for that call, and then if they get the call,

1014
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: they're rush to the convention center where the press conference

1015
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: is and then they're brought in and you know, sometimes

1016
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: guys are there, sometimes are not there, but it was

1017
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: usually a Saturday afternoon sort of thing. And the reason

1018
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: I bring it up is because I remember covering it

1019
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: and they would tell you that the maximum number, you know,

1020
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: for enshrinement was such and such, but it doesn't mean

1021
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: that they were going to enshrine that many players. Well,

1022
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: there hasn't been a year, I think in the last

1023
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: fifteen years where they haven't used the maximum slots. Like

1024
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: there is never a point where they're saying, guess what,

1025
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: only three guys got in this year. And it was

1026
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 1: just a little over a week ago that in Cooperstown,

1027
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: New York, when they made the Baseball Hall of Fame

1028
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: that Scott Roland, Scott Roland and Fred McGriff got in,

1029
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: but McGriff got in on a different vote. It was

1030
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: he was voted in on it essentially a senior comit,

1031
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: a committee of Hall of Famers and others. Wasn't in

1032
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: on the general ballot that you normally get in. Scott

1033
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: Roland was the only player voted in on the normal

1034
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: original ballot. And there were years that some guys in

1035
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: Major League some years where the Hall of Fame didn't

1036
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: have anybody you know in And that's the part where

1037
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: I think, like that where I agree with Dion is

1038
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pooh pooh on anyone's career because I

1039
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. However, the point is is

1040
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: I know that there are some years where there are

1041
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: more Hall of Famers than others, and that tells me

1042
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: that those other years where there's not, maybe you don't

1043
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: have to fill the class. Maybe that's just the opportunity

1044
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: to get the guys who are maybe backlogged in other years.

1045
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: And it just seems like that the NFL or excuse me,

1046
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame is just trying to

1047
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: kind of make everyone happy, and baseball is a little

1048
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: bit more difficult with stats. But I there's always been

1049
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: a full class for the fifteen or so years, and

1050
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: I just don't know if that's the case when it

1051
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: comes to really determining Hall of Famers that we've had

1052
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: that many.

1053
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the the exclusive the exclusivity of it

1054
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: is being dampened by you know, all the all the

1055
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: people coming in and you know, all the discussions of

1056
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: who deserves it, do they deserve it? Do the numbers

1057
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: stack up? Obviously, Again, like we said, the era of

1058
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: football has changed so much, so the numbers these guys

1059
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: are putting up now it looks like these it looks

1060
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: looks like they're Hall of Famers obviously. I mean, the

1061
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: numbers are are astronomical, but it's it's it's hard. I

1062
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 2: think the eye test. I think there's so many factors

1063
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: that go into place with you know, identifying a really

1064
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: really really really really special football player. And sometimes sometimes

1065
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: you don't win the Super Bowl. Sometimes you don't get

1066
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: the high stats because of the style of play your

1067
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: team plays, on, but that doesn't mean you're not a

1068
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame type player. So I think there's I

1069
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: think it's hard. Obviously baseball, it seems like it's the

1070
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: hardest to make. Yeah, and uh, they're very they're very

1071
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: non lenient with their guys.

1072
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: So and baseball is obviously such a numbers game because

1073
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: it's it's even if you're you know, a pitcher, your

1074
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: your numbers are there, Hitters numbers are there. You can

1075
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: even look at fielding, like what are the numbers for

1076
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: a guard? You know, like exactly in the world, Like

1077
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 1: how would you like post those numbers up to somebody else?

1078
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: Like you? You can't do it? And it's it's I'm

1079
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: glad that you brought that up because the position maybe

1080
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: outside of quarterback, that has the most numbers are way

1081
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: the numbers that maybe pop out are what is wide receiver, right,

1082
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: and it is tough for wide receivers to get into

1083
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. This has now been a thing

1084
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: for the past ten or fifteen years, and I don't

1085
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: know if it's because the NFL has become more quarterback friendly,

1086
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: but I think even our bar of letting quarterbacks in

1087
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: it was funny. We were at Rams Camp on Thursday

1088
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: for the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio Night.

1089
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm on Dog Show during the week, you know, and

1090
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: Doug brought up the fact he goes he thinks that

1091
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is going to get into the Hall of Fame,

1092
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: and at first blush I was like, well wait a sec.

1093
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: Then that kind of thought back on a Super Bowl win.

1094
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: You got stats, you've got you know this and that.

1095
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, and he probably will be, but

1096
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: we don't, like, we don't take that same thing with

1097
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: that same sort of leniency with wide receivers, And in

1098
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: fact it's the opposite. So you have Dion who's talking

1099
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: for an upper class in the Hall of Fame, and

1100
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: there are wide receivers. Tory Holt's not in the Hall

1101
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: of Fame, or it u Wayne's not in the Hall

1102
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: of Fame. Andre Johnson's not in the Hall of Fame.

1103
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: I know. They're like ballots are early and at some

1104
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: point Andre Johnson's probably going to get in. But Tory

1105
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: Holton reg Wayne have been waiting a little while. But

1106
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks are sure as heck in the Hall of Fame.

1107
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: The guy that lined up on the other side of

1108
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: the field. Is the wide receivers in the Hall of Fame.

1109
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: I just I found the wide receiver position and then

1110
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: you defended wide receivers. It was it was what they

1111
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: paid you to do in the National Football League. What

1112
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: when you like hear like a you know a Tory

1113
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: Holter or Reggie Wayne is not in the Hall of

1114
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: Fame and you've played it against these guys, does it

1115
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: make you mad?

1116
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: Is like?

1117
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: What are you what are your emotions towards it?

1118
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any emotions towards I think the

1119
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: I think, like what you said, it's really hard because

1120
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: in passer friendly offenses, Tory Holt Reggie Wayne are going

1121
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: to get numbers. I mean they're playing with Peyton Manning

1122
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: and Kirk Warner, right, So you're gonna have those chances

1123
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: to to make plays get the ball. It doesn't mean

1124
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: that their Hall of Fame special. Reggie Wayne is he's

1125
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's going to get in at some point.

1126
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 2: But the number one receiver on that team was Marvin

1127
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: Harrison and it wasn't even close. Like you go, you

1128
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: go into the game plan on on on Sunday, and

1129
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: you know you have to start stop Marvin Harrison. So

1130
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne benefited from some of that, right, So again

1131
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: the complex nature of the game and how good these

1132
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: guys really are and not just system players. I'm not

1133
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: saying they're both system players, but the system helped them.

1134
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: Sure, what about a guy like Steve Smith or Heinz Ward.

1135
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 2: Oh you know, like yeah, yeah, yes, Steve Smith would

1136
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 2: have a higher chance than hines Ward just because heines

1137
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: Ward's a really good player. Again, numbers wouldn't stack up

1138
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: to those guys heart and soul, somebody that they really

1139
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 2: really needed to be successful and win, not a Hall

1140
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: of Fame player, Steve Smith saying, I don't think he's

1141
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame player, but Numbers are definitely better

1142
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: and definitely a guy that you had to pay attention

1143
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 2: to on Sunday.

1144
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure. I'm sure he may have a.

1145
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: Chance as well, But you know, it's it's so hard, man,

1146
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: That's it's hard.

1147
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Heinz Ward. And the only thing is

1148
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: that going to bring him up is I did read

1149
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: an article where they were talking about you know, snubs

1150
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: if you will, or guys that haven't gotten in, and

1151
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: his name was included and I was, you know, I was,

1152
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: I was a bit surprised, like he's he's definitely you know,

1153
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: Steelers Hall of Fame worthy, oh for sure, you know,

1154
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: and it's such a beloved member of that Steelers team.

1155
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: But it it's the same, it's the same argument I

1156
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: think when you look at someone like Julian Edelman and

1157
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about you know, his Hall of Fame candidacy. Yeah,

1158
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: and you know, like obviously loved and made some enormous

1159
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: place for the New England Patriots. But on the grand

1160
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: scheme of things, I just don't I don't think I

1161
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: don't think he's a Hall of Famer and I don't

1162
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: think that he's you know, a pro football Hall of Famer,

1163
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: great career. And again I feel so I feel so

1164
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: bad saying this stuff, Carrie, and I can't, you know,

1165
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: because these guys you know, you know, gave their body

1166
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: up for ten years you know in the national football

1167
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: just like you did. And I'm like, well that's not

1168
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: good enough. Sorry, But truly, like that's that's what that's

1169
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: the point that Dion is also trying to make, you know,

1170
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: with all of this. So the wide receiver position is

1171
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: just crazy, I think on the guys that that the

1172
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: familiar names maybe that aren't in. Some that should be

1173
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: knocking in, and then there's a handful of guys that

1174
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: maybe aren't, but because of what they did for their teams,

1175
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: people think maybe have a better shot than they reallyistically do.

1176
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: Right, Dan, what do you think about Frank Gore.

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00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: I think he has to go in. And the reason

1178
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: why is because I am a big Carrie I've when

1179
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: it comes to the Hall of Fame, I feel like

1180
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: I have this. This could be like my seventh annual

1181
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: rant about running backs in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

1182
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: I feel guys like Fred Taylor, Ricky Waters, Warwick Dunn,

1183
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: Tiki Barber, the guys who were dual backs running and

1184
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: receiving put up crazy video game numbers. Those guys should

1185
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: be put into the Hall of Fame. And I think

1186
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: when we look at running backs, the running backs now

1187
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: different in the National Football League, obviously in the current state,

1188
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: but someone like like Jerome Bettis got in years ago.

1189
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: And I'm always pick on Jerome Bettis, and Jerome Bettis

1190
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: probably hates me for it, but he was a one

1191
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: dimensional back on a team that everybody loved, and he

1192
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: wasn't a great goal line back, so he accumulated a

1193
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: lot of stuff and then his final game was a

1194
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl win and everybody loved them because it was

1195
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: in his hometown.

1196
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: Right.

1197
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: I think that Jerome Bettis got into the Hall of Fame.

1198
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: And if you really look at what the Hall of

1199
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: Fame is, I don't know if he should be in

1200
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. But since Jerome Bettis is in,

1201
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: then to me, that lowers the bar for the you know,

1202
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: for the Tige Barbers, for the Fred Taylors and those

1203
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: guys that did both. And so when you bring in

1204
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: Frank Gore, who kech had more yards than Jerome Bettis,

1205
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: he's third. Like, I think he will be in the

1206
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame because you just can you can't ignore

1207
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: the numbers that he put up over his career.

1208
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: So oh man, that's yeah, that's a tough one. That's

1209
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: a tough one for me because I love I love Frank,

1210
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: and I you know, I've played against him for I

1211
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: mean since college, right, and yeah me, so I've had

1212
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 2: a chance to see him and know what he went

1213
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 2: through and to even have the career that he had

1214
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: after the injuries he had in college to play sixteen

1215
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 2: years of tackle football is just it's crazy. I can't

1216
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: even fathom it. And to have sixteen thousand total yards

1217
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: like the I mean, equals of thousand yards a year.

1218
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 3: It's it's hard.

1219
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: I just it's I don't think he is a Hall

1220
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: of Fame level running back. I think he's a Hall

1221
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: of Fame level things, had a Hall of Fame level career,

1222
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: which is the crazy part about it though.

1223
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just he's I think he's going to get

1224
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: in because of the numbers. Yeah, and when you say

1225
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: sixteen thousand yards rushing, it is exactly sixteen thousand yards.

1226
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: It's not sixteen zero zero one. It is sixteen zero

1227
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: zero zero. I just I think when they when he

1228
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: gets up for enshrinement, it may not be first ballot,

1229
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: could be a couple of years afterwards. I think that

1230
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: that maybe could be the process. But when you look

1231
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: at where everybody is, and by the way, the running

1232
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: backs in the Hall of Fame are going to be

1233
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: getting fewer and fewer throughout time because of what is

1234
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: now happening in the National Football League. Every single player

1235
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: who is top sixteen and rushing in the NFL all

1236
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: time is in the Hall of Fame except for Frank

1237
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Gore and Adrian Peterson who are not eligible. And so

1238
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: I think that tells you who is going to get

1239
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: in and who is in and the guy that is seventeenth,

1240
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, you know, and so again it just kind

1241
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: of goes to Stephen Jackson, you know, former Rams running back,

1242
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: you know in Saint Louis is eighteenth all time in rushing,

1243
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: and so I think, like those names, I just think

1244
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: that the duel back, you know, back in the early

1245
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: two thousands, you know, Marshall falk was so good. Yes,

1246
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: you know obviously with the Rams, and he is a

1247
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, but I feel like other guys were

1248
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: doing that as well, and we don't necessarily look at

1249
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,959
Speaker 1: the running back class as fairly as we should because

1250
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys are getting short changed.

1251
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: And you talk about the its Marshall Faulk is a

1252
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, you know what I mean, Like, it's

1253
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: not even a question like and so I think there

1254
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: are guys like that that pop off the screen where

1255
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: you there are no doubters. And then I think for

1256
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: the it's really just what is the criteria? What are

1257
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: you really looking at and how are they making these

1258
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: claims to be Hall of Fame, and I think if

1259
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: it was more clarity around what that entails it to

1260
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: make it a little bit easier for us to digest.

1261
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: He's carried roads. I'm Dan Byer in for the Up

1262
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: on Game guys here on Fox Sports Radio. It's a

1263
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturday as we're live from the Tireq dot

1264
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: Com studios. Coming up next, there's a story developing with

1265
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: one young quarterback in the National Football League. Plus, I'm

1266
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: going to put a bow on our Hall of Fame

1267
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: discussion because there was one guy that's in the Hall

1268
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: of Fame that I think is the biggest debate of

1269
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: them all. So we'll put a bow on that. We'll

1270
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: talk the future of the NFL and so much more

1271
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: next year on Fox Sports Radio. It's Fox Sports Saturday.

1272
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm Dan Byer. He's carry a road sitting in for

1273
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: the Up On Game crew. TJ. LeVar Plexico out tonight.

1274
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: So Carrie's carrying all of the NFL experience on his

1275
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: shoulders today. You know the name that I wanted to

1276
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: just talk about quickly because the Hall of Fame in

1277
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: shrim and ceremonies are going on and we talked a

1278
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: lot about wide receivers, talked a bit about running backs

1279
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 1: and the point carrier that I wanted to make about

1280
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: the running backs, and I mentioned, you know, my thoughts

1281
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: on Jerome Bettis, and it's not personal. I just I

1282
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: feel he was a one dimensional back and you get

1283
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: an advantage for playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Terrell Davis

1284
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: is in the Hall of Fame, and there's no doubt.

1285
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: And I know you didn't play against Terrell Davis. He's

1286
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: about a decade before you came into the league. But

1287
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: for three years in the National Football League, there probably

1288
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: wasn't a better player. Was the NFL MVP in nineteen

1289
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: ninety eight when he ran for two thousand yards, then

1290
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Speaker 1: had the knee injury and it was basically done after

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01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: that was that was it. So you had three like

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Speaker 1: outstanding years, a thirty six month window basically where Terrell

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01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: Davis was the best player you know in football or

1294
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: top running back. And he's in the Hall of Fame.

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01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: The two Super Bowls help. He was such a big

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01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: part of those Super Bowls. I absolutely get it. But

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Speaker 1: it is such a short career, and so when you

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Speaker 1: talk about the guys who did both the priest Homes

1299
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Speaker 1: of the world. You know, you mentioned that, you know,

1300
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne and Tory Holt maybe being looked at as

1301
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: guys who were in systems and they weren't the number

1302
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: one guys in those systems, right, And I kind of

1303
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: feel it's the same way with a guy like Priest Holmes.

1304
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Speaker 1: But I just don't understand it. It's I don't expect

1305
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: you to have the answer. I don't know who's going

1306
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 1: to have the answer. But it's like what Mike Shanahan's

1307
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, offense wasn't a system, you know, you know

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01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like when he's getting those opportunities, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's the problem that I have when I feel like

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Speaker 1: some guys are are being you know, left out and

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01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: other guys are getting in.

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01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yes, Mike Shanahan system is a system

1313
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: for sure, but I don't think everybody. I don't think

1314
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: you could have placed another running back and that's in

1315
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 2: that system to be as productive as as TD.

1316
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: Right.

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 3: So there's a.

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Speaker 2: Again, I think it broils down to the eye test again,

1319
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 2: seeing how explosive he was, seeing how much the system

1320
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: helped him, but how he made the system better as well.

1321
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: So there's a combination of really looking at football and

1322
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: being a part of the moment with someone and seeing

1323
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Speaker 2: that that person's special. Right, Priest Holmes, I love him,

1324
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: Priest Holmes is special. They didn't have the team success

1325
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: that the Dinner Broncos had, right, So you also have

1326
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: a situation where he's with another Hall of Famer in

1327
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: John Elway, that obviously boosts boosts boosts him up on

1328
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 2: a different pedal store as well. So it's a lot

1329
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: of right time, right place, circumstance. It's so many elements

1330
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: that go into it. Dan, It's like if there was

1331
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: a way that we, like I said earlier in the

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Speaker 2: previous segment, that there was a criteria that you know,

1333
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: after all these ingredients are culminated, culminated at the end,

1334
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: it looks like a Hall of Famer, and you know

1335
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: that's a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a lot simpler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the the you know, and Terrell Davis is really

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01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: kind of the exact opposite of Frank Gore. Yes, you know,

1339
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: in terms of where you are. And I had mentioned

1340
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Speaker 1: how when you look at the top sixteen running backs

1341
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: all time rushing in the NFL, the only two that

1342
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: aren't in the Hall of Fame just aren't eligible yet,

1343
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: and that's Frank Gore and Adrian Peterson. When you go

1344
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: and try to look for the Terrell Davis in terms

1345
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: of where he is in the rushing category of it,

1346
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: you're scrolling for a little while, like you are, like

1347
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: you're going down. You're like, wait this, and they go

1348
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: there is there is at fifty eight.

1349
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 3: He's fifty eight, and he's just.

1350
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: Higher than Jamal Charles, who spend a little bit longer

1351
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, but also was that dual

1352
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: back and preestyle actually has more rushing yards than him.

1353
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: Priest Holmes played longer in the National Football League. Yeah,

1354
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: the two thousand yard year really does, you know, stand

1355
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: out for Davis? And you know what you brought up

1356
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: a point that I had never really thought of, is

1357
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: that we had thought of Mike Shanahan's offense of being

1358
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: plug and play, and I feel like even Kyle Shanahan

1359
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: you kind of have some of that, but you see

1360
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: the levels it can go to with Christian McCaffrey as

1361
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: opposed to maybe Elijah Mitchell or Jeff Wilson, And no

1362
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: disrespect to those guys, exactly, it's a little bit a

1363
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: little bit more like we think of orlandis Gary and

1364
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: Mike Anderson and guys who were put into that system

1365
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: and had successful numbers. They didn't have seventeen hundred yards.

1366
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: They didn't have two thousand yard season.

1367
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Speaker 3: And that's and that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: Dan.

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01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean systems are great, and systems are

1370
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: gonna know if they're really good, they're gonna put guys

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01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: in the best position to be them to be the

1372
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: best version of themselves. And you get that, and then

1373
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: you get a special player like TD on top of it,

1374
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: then it's that's when it's special.

1375
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Speaker 1: He's carrier on. I'm Dan Byer. Let's jump to the

1376
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: news desk. Isaac Lohenkron going to give us the latest

1377
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Speaker 1: of what is happening on. This is Saturday Enshriven ceremonies,

1378
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know if there's a whole lot going

1379
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: on outside Women's World Cup. I know earlier today you

1380
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: can dive into in little.

1381
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 8: Baseball, including a potential international incident.

1382
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 9: In the Women's World Cup.

1383
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 8: We will get to that shortly, but as you mentioned,

1384
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 8: the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty

1385
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 8: three being inducted. As we speak in Canton. The most

1386
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 8: recent to complete their induction pass Rusher at DeMarcus Ware

1387
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 8: who is presented by Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.

1388
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 12: I've been thinking about it a lot for.

1389
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 8: Shower, indeed, and then where himself took the stage.

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Speaker 5: Deshrinment, by definition, is to cherish the sacred. I cherish

1391
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 5: every trial and tribulation that has gotten me here. I

1392
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 5: am his sacred work. This is and has been God's.

1393
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: Work through me.

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Speaker 8: Jet's defensive lineman Joe Klecko on the podium giving his

1395
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 8: induction speech as we speak. New Orland Saints head coach

1396
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 8: Dennis Allen announced today that a running back Eno Benjamin

1397
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 8: has been diagnosed with a torn achilles extra notable, of course,

1398
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 8: because Saints running back Alvin Kamara suspended yesterday for the

1399
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 8: first three games of the season. Jacksonville Jaguars offensive lineman

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01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 8: Tyler Shadley back at practice today after experiencing an irregular

1401
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 8: heartbeat earlier this week. Two major League baseball games going

1402
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 8: on right now. Astros and Yankee scoreless in the bottom

1403
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 8: of the second inning. Tampa Bay A won nothing lead

1404
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 8: at Detroit in the top of the second knockout round

1405
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 8: of the Women's World Cup kicked off overnight Spain over

1406
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 8: Switzerland at five to one. Japan advancing to the quarterfinals

1407
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 8: with a three to one victory over Norway, so Japan

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Speaker 8: will face either Team USA or Sweden in the quarterfinals.

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 8: The USA Sweden match kicks off at five am Eastern

1410
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Speaker 8: Times Sunday morning in Melbourne. And Team USA has actually

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01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 8: found itself in controversy what it referred to Melbourne as

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Speaker 8: Melby in a social media post, and apparently many people

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01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 8: in Melbourne found this offensive, including a woman who lives

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01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 8: in Melbourne named Dorothy, who tweeted and I quote, no,

1415
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 8: our wonderful city has never ever been called Melby. Many

1416
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 8: neutral supporters may well now jump on Sweden's bandwagon as

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Speaker 8: a result, and you only have yourself to blame unquote.

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01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 8: Looks like for Dorothy, there's no place like home anyway

1419
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 8: this Carrie thought, Yeah, well, Carrie, you obviously studied the

1420
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 8: film on me before this one. So this controversy escalated

1421
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,479
Speaker 8: all the way to the point where tem USA star

1422
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 8: Alex Morgan was actually asked about it during a news

1423
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Speaker 8: conference today.

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Speaker 13: I didn't know there was a stir cause from shortening

1425
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 13: in a city's name I mean they say so. I

1426
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 13: thought Melby was just the next continuation of that. But

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Speaker 13: we'll call them whatever they want.

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01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 9: You can't make this step up, guys, back to you.

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01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: I will say this as someone who was born and

1430
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: raised in Wisconsin, I never heard the term scannie.

1431
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 8: Used or whiskey whiskey would would you get offended?

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01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: Heard?

1433
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 3: Though heard?

1434
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: I heard whiskey a little bit, but I never heard scannie.

1435
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: And then I moved out to California, and I don't know,

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been in the last ten years,

1437
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: like there are t shirts that now say Scott. I

1438
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: never had ever ever heard of that. I heard a

1439
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: little whiskey, but never Scannie, Dan and.

1440
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Speaker 2: Dan, and I'll tell you I'm sorry, sorry to cut

1441
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 2: you off, Dan. But the Melbourne I've been there quite

1442
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 2: a bit. They are very prowderful, very prideful, and if

1443
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: something irks him they will let you know about it.

1444
01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 3: So they were definitely irked. And it adds up as he.

1445
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: Probably when San Francisco people hear people say Frisco, that's

1446
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: an annoying one that they don't like either. They are

1447
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: not a fan, not a fan of that. Never heard,

1448
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: but I've never heard Scannie until I until I left

1449
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: the state Dan And apparently now Melbourne has heard Melby,

1450
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: Iowa Sam is here.

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01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 4: I have jumped in here. Scannie makes me cringe a

1452
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 4: little bit. I don't know, it's awful. I get Scannie

1453
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 4: is just cool. Cringe cringey.

1454
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 9: By the way, wasn't Melby one of the Spice girls?

1455
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 6: Yes?

1456
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: Very very good? Oh Man and drama at the at

1457
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: the World Cup? All right? Get Isaac on Ax at

1458
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: Isaac Lohankron, you can hit Carry Rhodes and myself up.

1459
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: I'm at dan Byer on Fox. You can find Kerry

1460
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: at Carrie twenty five Roads. Anthony Richardson was drafted fourth

1461
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: overall by the Indianapolis Colts. They brought in Gardner Minshew

1462
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: this offseason, but it has been Richardson getting the first

1463
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: team snaps and it sure seems seems like he is

1464
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: on track to be the Colts starting quarterback in Week

1465
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: one of the NFL's regular season. The reason I bring

1466
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: this up, Carry is because of all the conversation that

1467
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: we had had I don't know what three four months

1468
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: ago and leading up to the NFL draft, and what

1469
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: can Anthony Richardson do? And at one point. I thought

1470
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson should have been the first overall pick

1471
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: in the draft if people were as high on his

1472
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: ceiling as they were. But the common theme was, you know,

1473
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: let the guy sit because he's young, because he was inexperienced,

1474
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: and let him do his thing. And that does not

1475
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: seem to be the case in Indianapolis right now. Are

1476
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: the Colts doing the right thing of the doing the

1477
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: wrong thing with Anthony Richardson and making him, you know,

1478
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: get all these first team snaps in training camp.

1479
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 2: Well, they got the blueprint right. They had a guy

1480
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 2: who came in as a rookie. Sylan was really high.

1481
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: A lot of people were high on what he could

1482
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 2: do and what he could bring to the franchise. And

1483
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning right, he thought was out there from day one.

1484
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: He had his bumps and Bruce has learned terrible first year.

1485
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 2: But I won't say terrible. I mean it's just terrible.

1486
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 2: A lot of interceptions, yes, yes, wise, but you know,

1487
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure the the you know, having the experience of

1488
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 2: getting out there and getting it going, what's good for him.

1489
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 2: I think what the Colts are doing right now, though

1490
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if Anthony Richardson is ready or not.

1491
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the best decision, but right

1492
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: now they're in a place where they need to have

1493
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: some hope, they need to have some some butts in

1494
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: the seats, and so he will do that, and he's

1495
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 2: their number one pick. He'll give them a chance to,

1496
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: you know, have something to root for. But right now,

1497
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: I think that's more what it is. It's about giving

1498
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,879
Speaker 2: that that city a chance to come and see possibly

1499
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 2: the future of what this team can can bring.

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Speaker 1: I think that there are two things at play in here.

1501
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: Number one when it comes to Jonathan Taylor. And I

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01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: felt this when he asked for his trade request that

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor knew that Anthyin and Richardson is going to

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01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: be a part of that offense this year and likely

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01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: going to be the starter. And you know whose numbers

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01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: go down when you have a running quarterback, it's very

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01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: likely that it's the starting running back. So when you're

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01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor and people are gonna say, oh, wait, you

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01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 1: were injured in twenty twenty two, and then your numbers

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: decreased in twenty twenty three from your great season in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, you know, we don't think we should

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Speaker 1: pay you as much. I get why he would want

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Speaker 1: to be traded or would be not happy, or would

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Speaker 1: want a long term deal. I completely understand that. But

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Speaker 1: I also think that there's another part of this that

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01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: isn't Jonathan Taylor related, and it's actually the future of

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01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: the NFL where if Anthony Richardson works out, if this

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01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: is the plan there, you know, there are guys like

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01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: when Dirknovitsky was drafted and then became so great and

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Speaker 1: won a title and Hall of Fame career for twenty years. Heck,

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Speaker 1: I think people are still trying to do it now,

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01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: trying to draft the next Dirk, or maybe they're trying

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01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: to draft the next Giannis. And I think that could

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Speaker 1: be the case that you would get in the National

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01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: Football League, that the raw talents, the guys that would

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: have limited experience, but you know, could have that ceiling.

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Speaker 1: If Anthony Richardson has any sort of success this year,

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01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: is the cold starting quarterback, I think that's going He's

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01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 1: going to start a trend in the NFL in the

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Speaker 1: draft where you're seeing these quarterbacks that you know, have

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01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: all the skills but maybe just not the experience and

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: have this raw ability. They're gonna be the guys going one,

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Speaker 1: two and three, and maybe not so much the more

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01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: polished Bryce Young's and c J. Strouds. Because of the

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01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: success that Anthony Richardson would have had in his rookie

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Speaker 1: season by getting to start right away. We had thought

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01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: four months ago, we had thought Richardson is probably gonna

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Speaker 1: sit out the whole season or maybe probably later on

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01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 1: and then but now if he's number one, I mean, you're,

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, the number one quarterback and getting starts, I

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01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: think that could change the the future of how teams

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01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: look at quarterbacks in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: The whole thing is the old MJ quote, right, the

1545
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: ceiling is the roof. I think it goes. I think

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01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 2: it goes through the routh. With with Anthony Richardson. Richardson

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01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 2: and his potential, it's always a sackey and and you know,

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01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 2: could be suspecting to throw throw a guy out there.

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01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the quarterback position in such a frodict one

1550
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: confidence is fleeting and uh it's very hard to get

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01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: back once you lose it, So you just got to

1552
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:02,879
Speaker 2: be careful.

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Speaker 3: Give him.

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01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: I think if they're giving him the chance to do

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01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: what he does best, and not play traditional quarterback to

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01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: start this thing. Then he has a chance. But if

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01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: they throw him in the fire and tell him to

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01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 2: go straight into the pro style offense and make all

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01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 2: the reads and do all that, it can be a

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01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,839
Speaker 2: It can be a long haul for him. So hopefully

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01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: they treat him right, give him a chance to be successful,

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: and then maybe, yeah, maybe you're right when it comes

1563
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 2: to drafting. You know more potential, you know, guys with

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01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: bigger ceilings and than the guys that are just going

1565
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: to come in and be plugging play.

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Speaker 1: He's carried roads. I'm Dan Byer in for the Upon

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Speaker 1: Game crew here on Fox Sports Radios where live from

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Speaker 1: this is up on Game on Fox Sports Saturday. But

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Speaker 1: you don't have LeVar, you don't have TJ, you don't

1590
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: have Plexico. You do have Carry, though Carrie Rhoads is

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 1: our NFL player representative, I'm Dan Beyer sitting in with

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01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: Carry today hanging out, and I figured Carrie, the best

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: way to wrap up the show, since this show is

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01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: about the opinions and the thought of guys who played

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01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: the game just like you. I also played the game,

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01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: but just not to the level that you did, all right,

1597
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: and not even close to the level that you did.

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01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: We're talking, we're talking high school and that was it.

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01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: But Carrie, what I have done is I've compiled moments

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Speaker 1: from your career in my career, and we're going to

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01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: see how Iowa Sam and bo Benson do and determining

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01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: who did what during our games. Okay, so they're going

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01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: to have to decide if the stat or the tidbit

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01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: that I give them happened to you and your career

1605
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: or me and my playing career. Is that fair?

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01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 3: Let's do it's all right.

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01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: Let's do it. All right, Let's see how well bo

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01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: Iowa Sam. Are you guys ready for this? You're working

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01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 1: as a team.

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01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 10: Not against each other absolutely.

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01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 1: Which you normally are. Okay.

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01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 14: I feel like as long as you don't ask us

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 14: where Ray Rice played football?

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01:16:53,840 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: Oh man with teammates like that enemy all right? Who

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01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: started every game in his first three years? Was that Carry?

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: Or was that me?

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01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 14: I think that's so like some of these are gonna

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01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 14: be designed to get to trip us up. That's gonna

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01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 14: sound like a Dan byer to me.

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01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 4: I don't I think that that's I think that's Carrie.

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01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna need a five answer from.

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01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 10: The team, all right, I'll let Sam have this one.

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01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 10: Let's go with Carry, Let's go with Carrie.

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01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: It is correct. In fact, Cary started with the first

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01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: uh for the uh every game in the first four

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01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: years of his of his pro football career. So one

1627
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: for one in that one. That's quite accomplishment right out

1628
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: the gate. You're starting as a rookie and pulled on

1629
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: to that starting spot. Yep, it's not too bad. And

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01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: then what the next year? Sixteen games again, and then

1631
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: in Arizona sixteen games? All right, they're off to a

1632
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: good start. Carry all right? Who let his league in

1633
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: fumble recovery tds in this season.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna go h opposite side of the

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01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 4: coin here, and I'm gonna go with Dan.

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01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's Dan. I'm gonna say Dan too.

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01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: Carrie Roads did and yeah led the NFL and fumble

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01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: recoveries for tds by a defensive player with the Cardinals.

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01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: What did it just fall into your bread box?

1640
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: Or you know, I'm one of those guys, Dan, I'm

1641
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 2: always around the ball.

1642
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 3: I know you. I'm looking. I'm looking at them by

1643
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 3: the accident like this. You know, when you're good, you

1644
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 3: make your own luck exactly.

1645
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: All right? One of two, one of two, all right?

1646
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: In his junior year, I had two interceptions. Junior year

1647
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 1: had two interceptions. Was it my junior year in high school?

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01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: Or was it Carrie's junior year at Louisville.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that's Dan.

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01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, let's say that one of the.

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01:18:55,720 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: Car Carrie had three year at Louisville. But yes, two

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01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: picks for an OH to nine Meryl Blue Jays squad.

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01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 3: All right, did you take went back?

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01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 6: Dan?

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01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 3: What did you take it back?

1656
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: Though?

1657
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 3: No one of them.

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 1: I got completely blind sided, like all of a sudden

1659
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: turned my head and there's a guard about to level men.

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01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: All right, who wore number twelve in school? We're number

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01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: twelve in school. I think that was your carry Roads.

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01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 10: I think that's Dan.

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01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: That is correct. All right, you guys are three for four.

1664
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: But Carrie and I could have something in common. Carrie,

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01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: you are what number at Louisville.

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01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 3: At Louisville, I wore nineteen and one.

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01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: Number one, so you were atop the program. Yes, we

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01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: didn't have single digit numbers. We only had them starting

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01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: at twelve. So they asked me what number, and I said,

1670
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 1: I want my name first on the program, so I

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 1: took twelve. So that's what Carrie Roads and I have

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01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: in common. That's our game today. This has been up

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01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: on game Carrie, it's been five.

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01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 3: Dan amazing your Saturday YouTube.

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01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: But later

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01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 3: Mhmm.