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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi.

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Speaker 2: Uh is this Alex?

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Speaker 1: It is?

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Speaker 2: What is going on with you?

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Speaker 3: Dog?

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Speaker 1: I just opened some civs? What about you?

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Speaker 4: Dog?

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Speaker 1: Oh? And I have a modilo.

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Speaker 2: Is SIV is like civilization like the video game? Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you played it?

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Speaker 2: I have. I don't really have the patience for games

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Speaker 2: like that because I feel like SIV is a is

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Speaker 2: a commitment, like I don't. I don't do any entertainment

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Speaker 2: thing that's a commitment. Like I won't even watch a

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Speaker 2: and a half and a game of SIV. I mean

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Speaker 2: that's like three days. Right. How long is the game

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Speaker 2: of SIEV last it is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it can go on for a really

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Speaker 1: long time. I'm on the second day.

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Speaker 2: I've been invited by friends before to play Dungeons and

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Speaker 2: Dragons and that's just my worst fucking nightmare because it's

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a whole commitment, you know. I want

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Speaker 2: to say I want to say this real thing about

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Speaker 2: Dungeons and Dragons real quick, because I don't know why

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Speaker 2: I need to get this out there. A lot of

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Speaker 2: the times in Dungeons and Dragons, like when like I've

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Speaker 2: been with my friends and I like talked about putting

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Speaker 2: a game together, and they're like, we need somebody who's

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Speaker 2: like knows a lot about the game in our group

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Speaker 2: that they can like guide us through it. Does that

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Speaker 2: make sense your play Dungeons and Dragons?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think I really want to.

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Speaker 2: But I think that that's not what you want. You

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Speaker 2: don't want anyone in the group who knows what they're

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Speaker 2: talking about, because then that person's just gonna be running

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Speaker 2: everything you. I want to play Dungeons Dragons with a

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Speaker 2: group of people where nobody knows what they're doing, and

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Speaker 2: that feels like it's more fun than having one guy

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Speaker 2: be like, Okay, now you do this, now you do this,

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Speaker 2: now you do this, now you do this.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: Wait, it's way more fun if you figure it out together,

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Speaker 1: way more fun.

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Speaker 2: Anyway. Let's see, what is your name, Alex, Alex, it's

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Speaker 2: us here that you are a private investigator. Tell me

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Speaker 2: about that. What is that? Like?

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Speaker 1: Oh, well, there's a lot of things you can do

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Speaker 1: right now. I mostly do like surveillance, so a lot

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Speaker 1: of cheating spouses, trying to figure out if people are

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Speaker 1: cheating on each other. Really you can do yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's actually like a lot of what prime investigators do,

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Speaker 1: and they do a lot of insurance too, to like

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Speaker 1: see if you lied about your insurance claim and stuff.

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Speaker 2: So back up for a second. I want to get

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Speaker 2: the whole picture here. So you're says you're twenty three

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Speaker 2: years old. Twenty yeah, twenty four. So are you Is

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Speaker 2: this a private practice or do you work for another investigator?

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Speaker 1: I work for a company. Yeah, but it's private because

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Speaker 1: it's not the government and true or like a government agency.

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Speaker 2: Well it's funny because I feel like when I think

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Speaker 2: are like they're like older, like they're like when I

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Speaker 2: think of a private investigator, I think of someone who's

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Speaker 1: I am very rare. I'm very rare. Most people are

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Speaker 1: retired police.

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Speaker 2: Yes, how does want to become a private investigator?

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Speaker 1: I went to school for criminal justice and I got

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Speaker 1: super lucky, and I just asked around to see if

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Speaker 1: was willing to take me under. But usually you'd go

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Speaker 1: to school and go get your license on your own.

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Speaker 1: So you have to read these huge books and really

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Speaker 1: not that big. It's like three hundred pages, you read

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Speaker 1: the test is ridiculous. There's one hundred questions and it

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Speaker 1: was horrible. But yeah, that's then then you find a job.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of it.

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Speaker 2: Why do you need a test to become a prive investigated?

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Speaker 2: Because don't you? I mean, because it's it's very it's

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Speaker 2: very much like because if you're not working for like

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Speaker 2: and there's no like buy the books, you know, you

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Speaker 2: know how that people are like, we're gonna do this

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Speaker 2: by the books. I feel like there's no book for

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Speaker 2: on your own. Why do you need it to pass it?

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Speaker 1: The book is actually the Idiot's Guide to Private Investigation.

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Speaker 1: That's what the test is based off.

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Speaker 2: There's an idiot's guide, Like you can just go on

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Speaker 2: Amazon buy this book and become a private investigator.

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Speaker 1: That's I got it, Yeah, I got it. Okay, But

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Speaker 1: there is a lot of laws. Most of the questions

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Speaker 2: There's a lot, right, because what is the line between

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Speaker 2: privately investigating somebody and stalking them?

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Speaker 1: That's a really good question. And I think we are stalkers.

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Speaker 1: We're just legally allowed to be stalkers.

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Speaker 2: Mmm. How long have you been doing this?

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Speaker 1: This is I had my apprenticeship for like six months,

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Speaker 1: but I never went and did anything. I went and

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Speaker 1: did something for the first time last week.

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Speaker 2: Also, so last week was your first time out on

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Speaker 1: Uh huh Yeah. And I was telling the call screener,

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Speaker 1: I've got some imposter syndrome and it just doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: real yet, like because I've been working towards us for

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Speaker 1: so long and now I'm doing it, and it's just

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Speaker 1: like it has not hit me yet that I'm a

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, you've only done one one thing.

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Speaker 2: I want to I want to get into the whole

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Speaker 2: imposter syndym thing, but I have so many other, so

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Speaker 2: many questions about your your gig. All right, So okay,

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Speaker 2: so how much are you what are you are you allowed? What?

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Speaker 2: What was the case that you went on today?

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Speaker 1: It was, oh, I went on one yesterday that was

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Speaker 1: a custody case. So we're just trying to get somebody

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Speaker 1: doing something that they're not supposed to be doing. The

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Speaker 1: first one that I went on was a cheating spouse case,

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Speaker 1: and so same thing it has followed her around and

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Speaker 1: made sure she wasn't cheating.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm. So so okay, let's let's take this cheating spouse

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Speaker 2: one for example, and this is this is this cheating

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Speaker 2: sauce one? Was this like you were an assistant to

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Speaker 1: It was all me. I went out alone from my

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Speaker 2: Awesome. And so I assume you had a lot of

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Speaker 2: cases before that where you were like sort of shadowing

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Speaker 2: a different PI. No, oh really, I would think on

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Speaker 2: that time. Is that not how that works?

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Speaker 1: It should be how it works. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess I kind of have this like air about

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Speaker 1: me or people think that I know what I'm doing,

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Speaker 1: and so they're just like, oh, she's fine.

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Speaker 2: Perfect And it was terrifying. All right, So tell me,

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Speaker 2: tell me, tell me how this went.

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Speaker 4: Tell me.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear. Did they like give you a Okay,

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Speaker 2: here's their license plate number, here's their address, go to

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Speaker 2: their house, follow their car, see what's going on type

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you might as well go get your license. That's

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Speaker 1: exactly what I did, just talk to get all the

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Speaker 2: And then go follow Tell me how it went. What

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Speaker 2: did you see, what's the what did you feel? What?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: What was what was that that stakeout? Like?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean I was really really nervous because

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Speaker 1: I hadn't done and shadowing before that. I was not

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Speaker 1: totally blow everything. Like they were just going to be like,

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Speaker 1: who's this chick following me? But that didn't happen. I

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Speaker 1: followed her, she went shopping, she went and got some food,

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Speaker 1: and that was it. She didn't cheat. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I would fucking be too if that was my very

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Speaker 2: first time doing that. I'm so surprised that they didn't

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Speaker 2: have you, like shadow a person beforehand. They just sent

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Speaker 2: you on your way. Yeah, but you did it. You

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Speaker 2: found out that they're not cheating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's what's so surprising about the ampopter syndrome is I

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Speaker 1: keep getting thrown into these situations and it's totally fine.

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Speaker 1: But for some reason, I'm like, it's not totally fine.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, well so, but this doesn't make sense

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Speaker 2: to me. Because so they hire you to follow this.

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Speaker 2: This guy hired you to follow his wife around for

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Speaker 2: a day, But how does he know that she's just

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Speaker 2: not cheating that day.

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Speaker 1: Well, we usually do it multiple times because of that

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Speaker 2: How much long are going to follow?

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Speaker 1: You know, the circumstances have to be perfect. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It usually depends on the client. You know, they might

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Speaker 1: get that feeling where you know, I'm just I need

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Speaker 1: be like, no, I know this is a fact, and

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Speaker 1: I need to get this for my divorce, So keep

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Speaker 1: going because people, you know, they could they could be

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Speaker 1: cheating every other day. They could be cheating once a month.

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Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes the private investigation stuff really hard too,

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Speaker 1: is that there's no guaranteed results. We could follow your

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Speaker 1: still be cheating. Like, it's difficult, dude.

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Speaker 2: It's so crazy that this is like a legal thing

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Speaker 2: you can hire somebody to do. You can just hire

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Speaker 2: somebody to stalk your wife and it's totally legal. It's crazy. Now,

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Speaker 2: I totally understand why you have all these feelings about this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you have to hire. You can as long as they've

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Speaker 2: bought a book from Amazon, Reddit, cover to cover, you

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Speaker 2: can hire them to stalk whoever you want. That's crazy

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Speaker 2: to me. Now I understand why you have all these feelings.

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Speaker 2: This is a wild thing that you're doing. I would

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, it is. I'm just wondering when it's gonna

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Speaker 1: set in. Like I've already gone on the two cases.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing the apprenticeship for a while. I got

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Speaker 1: my life, and but I took that stupid test, Like

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Speaker 1: when am I going to feel like a prime investigator?

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Speaker 2: Can I ask? What tell me more about this test?

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Speaker 2: What kinds of questions were on here?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Man, that test was horrendous. There was so like

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Speaker 1: when you do certain things wrong, you can either get

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Speaker 1: fined or you can get your license taken away. And

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Speaker 1: like some of the questions would be like if if

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Speaker 1: you did X thing, would you get fined one thousand,

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Speaker 1: three thousand.

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Speaker 1: Like they wanted you to know to the t what

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Speaker 1: was going to happen to you when you fucked up

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Speaker 1: in each and every single situation, and then like, so,

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Speaker 1: how much.

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Speaker 2: Do you get fined if your adhesive mustache falls off

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the easy one is confidentiality. You know,

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Speaker 2: This is so interesting to me. Okay, so tell me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a bag and it has a has

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Speaker 1: I actually don't have a trench coat. Maybe I should

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Speaker 2: cover what colors your hair? Is it like? Is it

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Speaker 2: Blonde and pink and purple and blue with tattoos. Why

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Speaker 2: It doesn't. It doesn't seem like a tattoo wey kind

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Speaker 1: It's because of the copy feel to it. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: Me, yeah, right right now, that that makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 2: If they see if you have like a sort of

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Speaker 2: why the fuck does this person keep popping up interesting?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that happens quickly.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this. You know, I know that you

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Speaker 2: you're having these feelings. Not a single feeling that you've

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Speaker 2: I don't think anything that you've described as anything other

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a crazy thing that you're doing. What

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Speaker 1: I always wanted to be a detective, but I have

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Speaker 2: So these the guy with the wife and the guy

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. I haven't talked to the boss

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Speaker 1: case is still going and I think I'm going back

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is fascinating. This is I mean, it's scary

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Speaker 2: what you're doing, because, like, if you get caught spying

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Speaker 1: I think you did get.

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Speaker 2: Exciting career ahead of you. You got caught. What happens, Well.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get caught by the suspect. I got caught

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Speaker 1: and she was so mad at me. She's like, why

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Speaker 1: She's like, you cann't park at a church, You couldn't

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: In my head, I'm like, yes, ma'am, I literally have

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Speaker 2: Oh you were part okay you left out you were

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Speaker 2: parked in her driveway. Yeah, okay, you left that part

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Speaker 2: I was mad at time, So you're parked in this

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I just laught because she started taking pictures of me

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Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, okay, well I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Wa Well, Alex, I'm very happy to hear that you

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Speaker 2: have this cool job. I'm so excited for you many

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Speaker 2: more in your whole Your life is like a fucking

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Speaker 2: TV show. Now that's exciting. I know that you are

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Speaker 2: feeling some imposter syndrome, but I couldn't feasibly imagine you

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Speaker 2: think a few years from now, when you have hundreds

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Speaker 2: be You'll be a hardened veteran. You have now inspired

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Speaker 2: paranoia that any parked car that they see in their

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, so thank you for that gift.

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Speaker 1: I would say that the chances are probably somebody doing

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Speaker 1: but not, you know, not to inspire the paranoia.

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Speaker 2: But is there anything you want to say to the

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Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go, Alex, Well, it's.

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Speaker 1: Kind of lame, but do what you want to do.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you want to be a private investigator,

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Speaker 1: go do it because it's totally possible. If you want

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Speaker 1: to be a musician, go do it all possible to

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Speaker 2: You know. I don't think that's lame at all coming

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Speaker 1: That's right. Thank you, Geko, of.

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Speaker 2: Course, thank you for calling Alex h oh Man. She

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Speaker 2: was a trip. Shout out to her. I met, I

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Speaker 2: like like for what she described to me, I totally thought,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that there are people who actually do that.

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Speaker 2: That you can legally pay a person to just stalk

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Speaker 2: that crazy? You can just if you want to fuck

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Speaker 2: and it's totally legal, and Alex gets to do it.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Alex, truly a a truly proof that

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Speaker 2: if you can dream it, you can do it. And

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Speaker 2: But I and I was kind of just so engrossed

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Speaker 2: But also it's because like, yeah, of course she's gonna

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. I'm stoked for her. I think

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Speaker 2: thank you for calling in to tell us about it, Alex,

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Speaker 2: I said that, I said that weirdly, Alex. All right,

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, how's you going?

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Speaker 2: Is this Joseph? Yes, it is? What's up?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Not much?

445
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Speaker 5: This is the Gecko.

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Speaker 2: This is the Gecko.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, I got going on everything.

448
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Speaker 5: Nice. Just wanted to start off by saying, I enjoy

449
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 5: watching all your clips and your streams, and I love

450
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Speaker 5: the advice that you give out.

451
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Speaker 2: Thank you, man, I appreciate you.

452
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Speaker 5: So I'm calling in today because I wanted your advice.

453
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Speaker 5: I grew up in a house full of girls and

454
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Speaker 5: one day they had the like put on address and

455
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Speaker 5: you know, some makeup as a joke.

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Speaker 1: And I realized that in.

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Speaker 5: That moment that I actually kind of liked being like that,

458
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Speaker 5: and I kind of always played along, and in my

459
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Speaker 5: own time, I would dress up and you know, so

460
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Speaker 5: much sister's clothing. But now and today, with me and

461
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Speaker 5: my wife having an apartment and stuff, it's been harder,

462
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Speaker 5: but I still carried it on. And I actually have

463
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Speaker 5: a group that I go to on the weekends, and

464
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Speaker 5: she's been I feel like she's been catching on lately

465
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Speaker 5: because it was an incident last week where she's on

466
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Speaker 5: me wearing a pair of underwear and you know, it

467
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Speaker 5: was kind of like I just bent over and she

468
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Speaker 5: noticed and I told her like it was a joke.

469
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Speaker 5: But she's been like acting strange, and I think she's

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Speaker 5: catching on to me.

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Speaker 2: M hmm. Interesting. So I want to get a little

472
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Speaker 2: bit of backstory on this. So you says you're twenty

473
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Speaker 2: eight years old. Yeah, so you've you've been and you

474
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Speaker 2: said that this when you were growing up, So I

475
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Speaker 2: mean this, this was like, like how old were you

476
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Speaker 2: when you were first started, uh, wearing women's clothing.

477
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Speaker 5: I was like, I want to say like ten. Yeah,

478
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 5: like more and more so ever since I got with

479
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Speaker 5: this group.

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Speaker 8: Mmmm.

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Speaker 5: It's the name of the group is Big Buff and

482
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 5: Bitchen and we get together on the weekends and you know,

483
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Speaker 5: you know it's guys that you would never expect, but

484
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Speaker 5: you know it kind of makes me feel like more

485
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Speaker 5: safe because and more normal because you know, these guys

486
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Speaker 5: do it almost some somewhat just the same line, like

487
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Speaker 5: they kind of hight because you know, I guess it's

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Speaker 5: not really accepted out today's society.

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Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: How did you find this group of fellow cross dressers?

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Speaker 5: Well, I kind of like stumbled upon it, like through

492
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Speaker 5: Google and stuff. But that's like a long story itself.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. So as far as you're you know, all

494
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Speaker 2: of this in relation to your wife, how long have

495
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Speaker 2: you guys been married for? How long has been together for?

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Speaker 5: Well period like about like seven years, but we've been

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Speaker 5: married for like four Okay, so you've been.

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Speaker 2: Together for seven and this is and this is not

499
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Speaker 2: like a news you this the cross dressing has been

500
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Speaker 2: a part of your life for like a really long

501
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Speaker 2: time from what you've told me, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I've been experimenting more and more over the years,

503
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Speaker 5: but yes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and throughout all those seven years, it never it

505
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Speaker 2: never came up to her.

506
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Speaker 5: No, because you know, it's not something I'm particularly you know,

507
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Speaker 5: like telling everybody exactly, you know, like it's more on

508
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Speaker 5: the tewn though mhm.

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Speaker 2: Can can you tell me? Why are you afraid of

510
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Speaker 2: your wife knowing about it?

511
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Speaker 5: I don't want her to think, you know, like maybe

512
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Speaker 5: I'm not attracted to her, or like I'm gay, or

513
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Speaker 5: she might leave me, you know, like it's complicated for me. Yeah, yeah,

514
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 5: like I do love her and everything, and then you know,

515
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Speaker 5: like at the same time, I do enjoy like other

516
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 5: stuff that I feel like I could never tell her,

517
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Speaker 5: Like every time I dress up, I pit a buck

518
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Speaker 5: plug in and like that feels good for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so I you know, man, I understand this

520
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Speaker 2: from from both of those sides. So let me ask you,

521
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Speaker 2: because you know, wanting to wear women's clothing doesn't inherently

522
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Speaker 2: say anything about your sexuality, but I assume that you

523
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: assume that your wife will think that it means that

524
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: will get the wrong idea and think, oh, he's gay.

525
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Speaker 2: Why would I, you know, be with with a man

526
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Speaker 2: who's gay. You know, I tried to me of course.

527
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Speaker 5: Yeah. And she's pregnant on top of that, so it's

528
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 5: you know, she's she's been crazy with her emotions lately.

529
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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. You know my opinion is I mean, look,

530
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Speaker 2: I don't if, if, if you so, tell so tell

531
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Speaker 2: me this. So you are attracted to your wife. You

532
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Speaker 2: are in love with your wife. There's no sort of like,

533
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Speaker 2: oh I might not like girls kind of thing. You

534
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Speaker 2: you you are attracted to your wife, and this cross

535
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Speaker 2: dressing thing doesn't have any effect on your sexuality.

536
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Speaker 5: I just don't want her to feel like, you know,

537
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Speaker 5: like I'm prettier than her sometimes, or like, you know,

538
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Speaker 5: like like she has, you know, like anything to worry about.

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Speaker 2: So, if you're married to this woman, you've been with

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Speaker 2: her for seven years, it's important for her. I feel

541
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Speaker 2: like it's important for you guys to have a level

542
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Speaker 2: of communication with each other where you feel like you

543
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Speaker 2: can adequately explain this to her. It might come as

544
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Speaker 2: a bit of a shock, you know, especially if you

545
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Speaker 2: guys have been together for seven years and this has

546
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Speaker 2: sort of been a part of your life for a

547
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Speaker 2: long time, it might come as a shock to her

548
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Speaker 2: that you've never talked about it before. But I think

549
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Speaker 2: if you're married to this woman and you're about to

550
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Speaker 2: have a kid with this woman, you guys should be

551
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Speaker 2: at a level of communication where you know, you should

552
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Speaker 2: be able to be like, hey, I like dressing in

553
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Speaker 2: women's clothing has no effect on you know, my sexuality.

554
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: That has no effect on how I feel about you.

555
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: But it is the thing about me that I've been

556
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: hiding because I feel like you'll think this, and you'll

557
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: think this and that, but I'm telling you this. You know,

558
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: she should be able to understand that you guys should

559
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: be able to have that conversation. I understand the fear

560
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: behind wanting to have that conversation, but if you guys

561
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Speaker 2: are getting married and you're having a kid, I feel

562
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Speaker 2: like your relationship with her should be such that you

563
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: guys should be able to talk this out. I mean,

564
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Speaker 2: what do you think of that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I hear you. But the thing is, like,

566
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Speaker 5: you know, like I know my no no offense, Like

567
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Speaker 5: I know my girlfriend bets you know what I mean? Yes,

568
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Speaker 5: my wife and.

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Speaker 7: Uh, like.

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Speaker 5: She's I don't want to say she's homophobic, but I

571
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 5: know she's not like the idea of like people. She

572
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 5: believes to each his own or anything else like that.

573
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 5: But I feel like she might think like I'm a weirdo,

574
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 5: and I don't feel like a weirdo. I feel like,

575
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 5: you know, like I'm just trying to be myself and

576
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 5: like just have experiences.

577
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah mm hmmm. So you you think that your wife

578
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: will judge you heavily for this?

579
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 5: I think she would. She would run for the hills.

580
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 9: I mean, if I mean, what girl would it? I

581
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 9: don't know, Like if she saw me dressed, I wouldn't

582
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Speaker 9: go I would.

583
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't go. Ahead, tell me what you're gonna say.

584
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 5: No, Like, I feel like if she actually see me

585
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 5: dressed up and then you know, I come out like,

586
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: you know, like in my tight leather clothes that I

587
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 5: like to wear, She's gonna just walk.

588
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: Away, you know, I think. And you know, look, man,

589
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: I know you said you know you're you know your

590
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: wife well, And this is this is hard man, because

591
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure that your relationship is a lot deeper than

592
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: you could let on in this little phone call. But

593
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Speaker 2: if you're going to be married to this person and

594
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a kid with this person, like I

595
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: feel like they should be able to accept you for

596
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: who you are. I mean, that's one of the like

597
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: I mean for me personally, everyone has their own little thing,

598
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: but you know that feels like a major tenant of

599
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: marriage is like you you are are accepting of of

600
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: of one another. I feel like and that man, you know,

601
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: I feel like you deserve somebody if you're gonna get

602
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: married and have a child with them, you deserve somebody

603
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: who fucks with you for who you are. I mean,

604
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Speaker 2: if you guys have been together for seven years, I mean,

605
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: I like, I get it, if like you've been dating

606
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: for a month, if you know, she's like, yeah, I

607
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: don't know how comfortable I am with this, I'm out, like,

608
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 2: you know, sure whatever. But I mean, if you guys

609
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: have been together for seven years, I feel like the

610
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: relationship has evolved to a point where you know, you

611
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: should be able to talk about this again. I don't

612
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: know your relationship, but it does pain me because I

613
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: feel like you deserve you do You deserve a person

614
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: who you know won't think you're weird for this kind

615
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: of stuff. I mean, maybe if she was like, I,

616
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: you know, I don't mind you doing this, but I

617
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: don't want to see it, or something like that. You know,

618
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: maybe that's a workable situation. But I don't know. I

619
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: don't feel like this is something that you should have

620
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 2: to hide if it's you know, if this is your wife,

621
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: we're talking about what what are you What are your

622
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: thoughts on all this because you know, I'm just I'm

623
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 2: just I'm just talking ship.

624
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 5: Well yeah, like it's just it's I guess it's the

625
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 5: not knowing and the what if. And like I I

626
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 5: do construction and she knows like a lot of people

627
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 5: that I work with, and you know, like off a bid,

628
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 5: like she was to like be mad and post anything

629
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 5: online and you know, like all the guys would know,

630
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 5: and like it would just I feel like it would

631
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 5: spread like wildfire. And I maybe even if she's accepting,

632
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: and you know, I don't know, she tells someone off

633
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 5: the bid and she goes to advice or someone and

634
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 5: people people talk mm hmmm. And I just don't feel

635
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 5: like this secret's ready to come out yet.

636
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Okay, So you know, against everything I just said,

637
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: this is your secret, this is your life. And if

638
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: you feel you know, it's like, if you feel like

639
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: it's the most beneficial for you to keep it a secret,

640
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: then that's, of course your decision to make.

641
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 5: I feel like a secret.

642
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't answer that because you only know

643
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: your life and you only know what's best for you.

644
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: I can't tell you what's best for you. I personally

645
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: think you deserve to be with somebody who accepts you

646
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 2: for who you are, if you're gonna get fucking married

647
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: to them, because marriage I mean, I mean, like, look,

648
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 2: I don't think marriage is that sacred. You can always

649
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: get a fucking divorce, people do it all the time.

650
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna get fucking married to someone and

651
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: have a kid with them, I mean, that's that's some

652
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: serious shit. You know. That should be a person who

653
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: would just like fox with you, you know, on a

654
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: on a on a really deep, deep level. And I

655
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: think if you're gonna get married to someone, you deserve

656
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: to get married to somebody who fucks with you on

657
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 2: that deep of a level. That's just my own opinion

658
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: if you're gonna get married, But again, you're your own person.

659
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: If you're evaluating everything and you're coming to the conclusion,

660
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: my life would just be better if I continue to

661
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: hide this. You know, I don't think you're inherently wrong

662
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: or right. I don't think you're inherently wrong or right

663
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 2: for making either decision, but I'm just kind of giving

664
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: my thoughts on both sides of that.

665
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 5: I was thinking about Meybi introducing the buff clug idea

666
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: to her and seeing if she would be down with that.

667
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: You could start slow like that, Yeah.

668
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 5: I think that would be the best way to do it.

669
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 5: Let me try next week.

670
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: Well again, what's your name of Joseph, Well, Joseph, good

671
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: luck to you. And and like I said, I really

672
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: it's it's it's hard because I understand both sides of

673
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: where you're coming from, and it's your decision at the

674
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: end of the day. Totally.

675
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 4: I do.

676
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: I do think you deserve somebody who you feel like

677
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: will love you, uh for exactly who you are. I

678
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: feel like you deserve that. If you're gonna give somebody

679
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: your lineman, that's what you're doing with marriage, given somebody

680
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: your fucking life, you know, it should be somebody who

681
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: you really feel like deserves it.

682
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 5: So just saying they don't know what hurts.

683
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what that's not. That's not a horrible well,

684
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: that's not a horrible philosophy to live by either. If

685
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: that's what you choose. So thank you, good luck to you. Joseph.

686
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: Well, I got a lot of.

687
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: This, of course. Man, take care.

688
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 5: You're a man.

689
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: By ah, that was a tough one. That was a

690
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: tough one. Let's see, it is very high.

691
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: You know.

692
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: It's it's hard, right because I get on here and

693
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: people call me and they tell me these things, and

694
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: you know, I have my thoughts of what I think, Oh,

695
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: you should have, you should have if you're getting married

696
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: to someone, you know, it should be someone who accepts

697
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: you for who you are. You know, it's easy for

698
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: me to sit here and say that I do believe it,

699
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: I really do. I really do believe that that if

700
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: you're going to give somebody your fucking life, you're gonna

701
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: marry someone. I mean, Jesus Christ, you know, it should

702
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: be somebody who accepts you, whoever you are. But that's it,

703
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: you know, easy thing for me to say over the

704
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: course of this fifteen minute phone call, because I'm not

705
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: living in the fear, the visceral emotions of it that

706
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: this guy is living in and he in you know,

707
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: overcoming and you know, very it very well could be

708
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: that overcoming that fear is too much for him, and

709
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: he looks at his life and from a logical point

710
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: of view, says, it just would make more sense to

711
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: keep this as a secret. It would just make me

712
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: happier if I can have this little thing, if I

713
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: can go to my little group, I can have fun there,

714
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: I can do my cross dressing, and then I can

715
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: have my other life with my wife, who has no idea.

716
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: I my other life with these construction worker friends, they

717
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: have no idea, And that just makes me happen. I

718
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: just want to keep it like that. And you know what,

719
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: I truly, truly, truly I would I wouldn't fault him

720
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: for doing that at alone. I wouldn't fault him for

721
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: doing that alone. So you know, I just hope he

722
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: makes whatever decision is the best for him. Okay, and scene,

723
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: let's take another call movie.

724
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: Hello.

725
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: Hi is this Lydia.

726
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 6: This is Lydia.

727
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: What's going on with you, Lydia?

728
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 8: Oh?

729
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: You know, I've just been enjoying your podcast here.

730
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 6: It's been good.

731
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you man. I appreciate that.

732
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: I'm really happy I'm talking to you. I'm kind of

733
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: shocked a little bit. I'm gonna be.

734
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: Honest, I'm stuked to be talking to you too. I

735
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying the stream tonight. I'm enjoying talking to people.

736
00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: Some nights feel very slow. Some nights, you know, my

737
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: energy is off, but I feel very good. It really

738
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: good tonight. So I'm grateful for that. Any moment I

739
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: get to have where I'm I'm feeling attentive and and

740
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: happy in the moment. So that was a little corny.

741
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: Live in the present, can't take it back. Now it's

742
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: been said, how can I get you, Lydia?

743
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I just kind of wanted to

744
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: get a little bit of your perspective. I haven't you know,

745
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: talked to anyone for about four years, and and I

746
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: never went on a dating app. So first time I

747
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: went on Tender, I met someone pretty interesting and it's

748
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: the only person I ever met on there. So yeah,

749
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: this person, you know, very smart, taught me gardening stuff,

750
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: like very smart. But as I got to know him

751
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: a little bit more, I discovered he likes some very

752
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: interesting things and then he has some suspicious behaviors. So

753
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: I I'll start with like the smaller stuff, like he

754
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: only likes we're both thirty years old. I feel like

755
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: snapchats for like high schoolers. He will only communicate through that.

756
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: I got his number like months later after I knew him,

757
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: because I thought it was kind of weird, You're like,

758
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: how do I not know this guy's number? So he

759
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: gave it to me, and then one time I sent

760
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: him a message and he like freaked out, like, no,

761
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: only message me on Snapchat.

762
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay.

763
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: Then he pays everything in cash and then so like

764
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: for everything, like we'll go on a little manification all cash.

765
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 3: If like gets an uber to my house or something

766
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 3: like he won't use the app like he I'll order

767
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: it and then he'll get here and paint me cash.

768
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: So like, or he'll say, like, you know, Lidia, if

769
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: anyone bothers you, like, I'll take care of I don't

770
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: even know what that means. So I don't really know

771
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 3: a lot about him.

772
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 6: He's very nice to me though, So it's just been

773
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 6: very interesting.

774
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 3: And you know, as I started doing other stuff with him,

775
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: like I discovered he likes wearing girls underwear and other things,

776
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: and I think, what kind of you know, like made

777
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: me feel like not so positive about the situation was

778
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: just the way it was presented to me. I always

779
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: go you know, like, it's not what you say, it's

780
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: how you say it. Like how was presented to me

781
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: was very shocking. I've never seen anything like that or

782
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 3: done anything like that, or even met a guy who

783
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: really like, like I have friends, but like I never

784
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: experienced that with a guy, you know.

785
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: So when you say, oh, I'm just to clarify when

786
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: you say when you say it or do you mean

787
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: do you mean everything you've been talking about this far

788
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: just the women's underwear.

789
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: Thing, well A saying I'm like the I don't know

790
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: how much I can say here, you know, like a

791
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: pike from the woman underwear. You can say whatever you want, Okay,

792
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: So okay, So it started small, so for I still

793
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: call me like can you stick your finger in my behind?

794
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: And I was like okay, like I never had a

795
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: guy who left him. I'm like sure, whatever, I'll explore you.

796
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: And then it started going to butt plugs and I

797
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 3: was like okay, yeah, okay, yeah.

798
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: I'll do that.

799
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: Then one day we were like kind of in actually,

800
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: you know, having good time, and then he's just like, oh,

801
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: you know, I want to show you like the porn

802
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: I like. And I was just kind of like in

803
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: a shock because I was, you know, a little distracted,

804
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: so he just showed it to me and then he's like,

805
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: isn't this just like a beautiful girl with such a large,

806
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: you know, cock?

807
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 4: So after that, I was.

808
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: I was kind of like a like surprised because I

809
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: was not expecting anything like that. So then, you know,

810
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: I didn't want to make him feel awkward because I feel,

811
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: you know, that's something like something you don't fully always share,

812
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: I guess. So yeah, I'm glad he was open and all,

813
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 3: but like it was still like kind of like where'd

814
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: that come from? And yeah, so I didn't really say

815
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 3: much about it. But then after like the whole thing,

816
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: I like kind I like thought about it, and I

817
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: was like, me, you kind of feel a little insecure

818
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: because I'll never have a penis. Like these whole times

819
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: that we've been doing things like has he imagined me

820
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: with the penis? Like you know, he wanted me to

821
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: get butt plugs put my finger in him and then

822
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: he'll like suck my finger in face. It's like, my

823
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: girl cock. I didn't even know what that was.

824
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So so we've got we've got a lot of

825
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: things going on here, two different we're talking those are

826
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: two separate things. By the way, I feel like you're

827
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: bringing up two separate things. Yeah, because there's the whole like,

828
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: what the fuck's up with this guy and what he does,

829
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: and then there's what the yeah, you know, what's up

830
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: with this guy in the bedroom type of thing. So

831
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: let's talk about the first one first. He pays for

832
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: everything in cash, so I mean it's pretty safe to

833
00:46:53,400 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 2: assume that he does some he's a drug guy, you said,

834
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: you say, I mean you tell the call screen, or

835
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: that he works in the cannabis industry.

836
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a professional license cannaby cannabis industry. He like

837
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: manages like four hundred plants in his warehouse.

838
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And he clearly has like a a privacy

839
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: thing because uh yeah, he only wants to do snapchat.

840
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: He's in one of your conversations recorded. He pays for

841
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: everything with cash. Maybe he just has this like inherent

842
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: distrust of like a government. Say that again.

843
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: He always is concerned about safety.

844
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: Like that too.

845
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that one last time he said it, you

846
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 2: cut out right when you were talking about safety.

847
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: So he he's also always very concerned about safety all

848
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 3: the time, Like he always wants to have a gun

849
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: around him.

850
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: He always has a gun around him.

851
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah that too, Yes, I think that's like important detail

852
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: at all.

853
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: Like every time you're with him he has a gun.

854
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 8: Yeah.

855
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he'll come over and he'll bring his gun. Yeah,

856
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 3: we go somewhere, like on vacation, he'll take it.

857
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: Okaym how does that make you feel?

858
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not really afraid of guns. I'm pretty comfortable

859
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: with I own one myself. It's not like I go

860
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not like a fanatic and goal it's

861
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 3: crazy about him, But I'm a girl, you know, who

862
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: lives at home.

863
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 6: So I just have a can gun for protection, so

864
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 6: it doesn't really bother me.

865
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: But it is kind of odd that it's like why,

866
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: like he's so worried about safety that you always feel

867
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: like you have to have a gun, Like I have one,

868
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,959
Speaker 3: but I don't feel like if I leave my house,

869
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 3: I must have it with me to feel safe, you know.

870
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So he pays with everything in cash. He's afraid

871
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: of people. Listening to this conversation, since he carries a

872
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: gun around him around with him everywhere, as you say,

873
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: not just like you guys go on your many vacations

874
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: that he brings the gun.

875
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: M m hmm.

876
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: Okay, so like, you know what him the whole the

877
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: whole second part of this where it's like he is,

878
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 2: you know, attracted to trans people and you're wondering, like, oh, yeah,

879
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: not attracted me because I'm not trans, you know whatever,

880
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: That is what it is.

881
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, what.

882
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: How long have you known this guy for?

883
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 8: Oh?

884
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: I would say like eight months or so, since it's

885
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: been been dating for eight months.

886
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't see him all the time. It's

887
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: a little bit like an interesting setup, you know, because

888
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: I'm pretty independent myself, so I only see on maybe

889
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 3: a couple of times a month, and then sometimes we'll

890
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: take like a little vacationers thing.

891
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 6: Yeah.

892
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: And then you wrote he has offered to take care

893
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 2: of people. You told me this as well. You said

894
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: he is offered to take care of Yeah.

895
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: He has that, Yeah, said a couple of times, like

896
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 3: meeting taken care of I honestly never asked for details.

897
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: I think I just heard that and I was like,

898
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 3: what the what is that? I was like, Okay, I'm

899
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: just gonna yeah, you know, I'm gonna say if I

900
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: have a problem.

901
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: With you know, lydia uh listen, Lydia, you're your own

902
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: human being. You are thirty years old, you have the

903
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: agency to you know, date, see, you do whatever you want.

904
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: But by god, this guy, this guy would not date

905
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: this guy. This guy seems dangerous to.

906
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 5: Me, you know.

907
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I tend to like dangers. I don't know. Yeah,

908
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 3: it's a pattern. I guess I'm very smart.

909
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's pattern.

910
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. My the last person I was with a very

911
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: toxic person too.

912
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you said two Just now are you.

913
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 6: You said?

914
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: Why don't you said it was toxic? You know, I'm

915
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: just talking you through what's going on with you? Do

916
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: you do you think he's toxic?

917
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 3: Not really, because he's very.

918
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 6: Nice to me.

919
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 3: Like, yes, there's these odd behaviors.

920
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: I see that.

921
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: I see that as read he flags that you should

922
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: run for the hills for I get that.

923
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 8: But he's also very kind to me, like very generous,

924
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 8: very very nice.

925
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 6: Very nice.

926
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 2: Very see. I'm conflicted. I'm I'm conflicted about this because

927
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: you know, look, you're your own person. You should do

928
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: whatever you want. But yeah, it just it just it

929
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: just makes me squeamish that, you know, because like, look,

930
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: people are nice to you until they're not.

931
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

932
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: He doesn't seem like a guy who's I don't know.

933
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: It's just this is a weird situation to me. This

934
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: guy's always carrying on a gun and he's like because

935
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 2: another thing is if you don't really know that, if

936
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: you don't really know what's going on with this guy.

937
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm in my head, I'm like, well what if you

938
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: know what if like there's he's involved with some fucking

939
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: gang or something, and they're like, all right, well we

940
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: can't get him, let's figure out who's close to him

941
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: and you know, send him, kidnap her or whatever. The fuck.

942
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Look, I'm not gonna tell you it's I'm

943
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: not going to tell you it's not safe. I'm not

944
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: going to tell you it is safe. I I I

945
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: don't really know. I really can't gather that much information

946
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: over this eleven minute phone call. But yeah, well let

947
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: me ask you this. You called me, and I don't

948
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: know if this is just like something that you're just like, oh,

949
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: I called the get go. Let me think of what

950
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: I have to talk about. But the fact that you

951
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: called me shows that there is some inkling within you

952
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: that's like it's a little bit skeptical. Let's talk this,

953
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: talk about this gut feeling. What's what's this gut feeling

954
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: saying to you?

955
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: It just sounds well, okay. So I just feel like I,

956
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: in a sense need him for something because I grow

957
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: cannabis plants and he gave me some, so I need

958
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: him to tell me, like what my nutrients to give it.

959
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: And then everything's so secretive, like if I ask, oh,

960
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 3: what did I give this with the brand of it,

961
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 3: I want to share it with whatever, and then very

962
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: limited information will only tell me day by day.

963
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 2: Right backup, back back up. Yeah, you say you need you.

964
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: This gut feeling is saying we're all over the place.

965
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: Now you're saying you need him to help you grow

966
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: your plants.

967
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that.

968
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: And you're saying that as a reason to stay with him.

969
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 2: What are you saying that as.

970
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 5: Well?

971
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: See the way I feel it, I don't really see

972
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: him too much.

973
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 8: I see him maybe a couple of times a month,

974
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 8: and then when you feel them, it's like a good time.

975
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 8: So the time, like I still get like instructions on

976
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 8: my plants, and then I want to learn how to

977
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 8: grow them so I can just have that as my supply,

978
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 8: so I see it as I.

979
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 7: Only have to Okay, hold on, we're geting, we're getting

980
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 7: off top, we're getting off topic here. This is feels

981
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 7: off topic because I'm talking about this gut feeling. You

982
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 7: called me because you wanted to talk to me about

983
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 7: this stuff. How you feel like this guy is shady?

984
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 7: You know what, the bedroom stuff. It feels like an

985
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 7: after the fact thing, but you just feel like he

986
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 7: was shady, and so he called to talk about it

987
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 7: because a gut feeling is telling you it's shady. Tell

988
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 7: me about that gut feeling.

989
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, my gut feeling says it's not worth my time.

990
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: Okay, you got feelings telling you that it's not time.

991
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

992
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know.

993
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: That's a that's a I don't know.

994
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: This is this is a this is a This is

995
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: a tough situation because you're an adult. I'm not you know,

996
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell you what you should or

997
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: shouldn't do. Yeah, Like, I mean, if you want my

998
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm not even looking to the chat right now. I'm

999
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: sure everyone has the same thing where they're like, yeah, yeah,

1000
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: this guy, he sounds to me like he's kind of bad. News.

1001
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: You're an adult. You can make whatever risky decisions you

1002
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: want to make. But it's definitely I just I don't

1003
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: know about this guy. It seems like a weird situation.

1004
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: To be in.

1005
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just be vigilant at least. Yeah, and this

1006
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: is you said you're on tender right.

1007
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was the first time I used it, only

1008
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 6: person I met there.

1009
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: M hmmm, are you talking to other people on tender?

1010
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 4: No?

1011
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: I only like to sleep with one person at a time.

1012
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm. Well Lydia, Uh, good luck to you, I hope.

1013
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: Talking about this situation, you said, did you tell me that?

1014
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 2: Have you like told told other people that you're seeing

1015
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: this guy? And like just about this ship.

1016
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 6: Just one person?

1017
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: Or is it like one of your friends? What does

1018
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: your friend think about this whole situation?

1019
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 5: Oh, they don't.

1020
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 6: They don't think he's a positive person.

1021
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 3: The beer out?

1022
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so now we have two perspectives, right

1023
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 2: because I'm a little and this is a bad time too,

1024
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 2: because I'm thinking, like, well, shit, if she's gonna break

1025
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: up with him, like I'm almost I'm like, dude, I'm

1026
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: scared about like how are you going to leave this?

1027
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 2: Because this guy just seems like he's a this is messing.

1028
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: If I'm you, I'm like, okay, cool because I you know,

1029
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm just think about like if you're gonna leave this

1030
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: like is to see has he ever ever been like

1031
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: violent or weird just a little shady?

1032
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 8: No, one just like the communications being is kind of off,

1033
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 8: you know, like the cash, the.

1034
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 6: That's it.

1035
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't really know a whole lot about him,

1036
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: so that's kind of good too. Yeah. He just he's

1037
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: very nice, to be very generous, very nice Christians.

1038
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: Well Adio like squirt things well, Lydia, Uh, you know,

1039
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: look man, be vigilant, uh all that stuff. Thank you

1040
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: for sharing.

1041
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 4: Uh?

1042
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you want to say to the

1043
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: people the computer before we go?

1044
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: No, thank you for listening. I think listening helps more

1045
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: than you know.

1046
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: Awesome, Thank you for calling, Lydia.

1047
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 3: Thank you, Hi. Bye.

1048
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: Would I personally date a guy who brings a gun everywhere?

1049
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: I would not.

1050
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1051
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: That just had bad news written all over it. That

1052
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: had bad news written all over it. And you and

1053
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: I heard Liddy. I almost went deeper into this, but

1054
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't. Where she said you heard her

1055
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: say she said that she's attracted to danger, and maybe

1056
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: that's part of the reason why she continues to see him.

1057
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: And she had all these reasons. She was sort of

1058
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: justifying it. She was like, well, he's nice to me

1059
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: and I only see him a few months, a few

1060
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: times a month, and like whatever. You know, she's an adult.

1061
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: She can make her own decisions. If she is attracted

1062
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: to danger and wants to do risky stuff, you know,

1063
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: it's her prerogative. But dad just fucking didn't sit right

1064
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: with me at all. Anything with that guy. I hope

1065
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: she is okay. I hope she makes the right decision,

1066
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: whatever that may be. Stay safe Lydia, Okay, moving on. Hello,

1067
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

1068
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: Is this me?

1069
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: No, it's me while.

1070
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 6: Oh my god.

1071
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 4: I didn't think I was gonna get picked.

1072
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: High and here you are. You're picked. Let's make it

1073
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: worth it.

1074
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 4: How are you doing tonight, lyle Joey.

1075
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. I'm feeling I to be honest,

1076
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm feeling better than I felt in the past forty

1077
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: eight hours. How are you doing?

1078
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 6: You know what?

1079
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 4: I'm I'm doing pretty good. I was just making mistakes

1080
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: for dinner and I I actually saw my spoke alarms,

1081
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 4: so I had to do with that for a few minutes.

1082
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 4: So it's good now, is.

1083
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: It still going.

1084
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 4: No, you'd hear it if it was.

1085
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I thought. That's why, That's why that

1086
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: was a dumb question of me to ask what's going

1087
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: on with you, joey.

1088
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 4: Ah, nothing much. I'm just uh, just living, trying to

1089
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: live my best life, you know, doing doing everything I

1090
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 4: can to make others happy in the world. You know.

1091
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 2: Uh, is there anything in particular that you want to

1092
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: talk about tonight?

1093
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1094
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Speaker 4: So the reason I called you, Lyle was because so

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01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know who the Colorado Avalanche are,

1096
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 4: but they are. They are the Colorado hockey team. So

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01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 4: like they're the professional hockey team in Colorado, and they've

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01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: just made it to the Western Conference finals, so they're

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01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 4: one they're one round away from making it to like

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01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 4: the championship, right.

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01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmm?

1102
01:00:58,560 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: Does that Does that make sense?

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01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1104
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 2: Of course?

1105
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 4: Okay, Well when they so for context, in game in

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01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 4: game five, they they in game five, they blew a

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01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 4: three nothing lead. So in the third period they had

1108
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 4: a three to one lead and they blew it. They

1109
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 4: ended up losing that game five to four in overtime.

1110
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: And I found myself getting very upset, like I was

1111
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: beyond upset, right, oh yeah, so so except that I

1112
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 4: pounded my fist at the bar and I like hurt

1113
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 4: my fists for a little bit, and I went to

1114
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,959
Speaker 4: bed angry. And then when I woke up, I found

1115
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 4: myself I was very anxious because my team happened to

1116
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 4: have this curse on them where they couldn't get out

1117
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 4: of the second round. They did, they did eventually win

1118
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 4: the game, but up until that point where they won

1119
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 4: the game, I was extremely like, just's just a nervous

1120
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 4: that we were going to lose again. And I I

1121
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 4: found that I was letting myself become hyper, like my emotions,

1122
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 4: my happiness, and my sadness were dictated by the hockey team.

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01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 8: Right.

1124
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 4: So my question to you is how do I how

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01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 4: how should I not get so invested because I like

1126
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 4: have I have a ton of jerseys I buy, you know,

1127
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 4: I just bought tickets to game one tomorrow, you know,

1128
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 4: so like I am a super fan, but I don't

1129
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 4: want to have my emotions connected to it, you know

1130
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 4: what I mean?

1131
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1132
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: Man, it's well, you tell the call screener that you

1133
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: feel like your obsession with sports is letting it letting

1134
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: you know, affecting your happiness and your emotions to an

1135
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: excessive degree. Yes, yes, so I feel like sports is

1136
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: like with all things, you know, escapism, you know, because

1137
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: your your emotion invested in something, and it feels kind

1138
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: of good to care about shit, be emotionally invested in shit.

1139
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: And that's why people get invested into sports, is because

1140
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: there's something to that. And I guess the problem and

1141
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: you can say this about a lot of things, but

1142
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: it becomes a problem when you get so emotionally invested

1143
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: into this thing that is not worth being the sole

1144
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: focus of all of the emotions that you have to

1145
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 2: invest right, that's the problem. So I ask you, what

1146
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 2: else in your life do you have to become emotionally

1147
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: invested in?

1148
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 4: Well, well, I kind of just got a boyfriend, so

1149
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 4: I have that, but he's an hour away from me,

1150
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 4: and I can only ever, I can only see him

1151
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 4: like every the week because you know, gas is expensive, mm,

1152
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 4: so you know I'm trying to Uh, So I have that,

1153
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 4: and then I have a couple. I don't know if

1154
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 4: you've heard of the shows called Has Been Hotel and

1155
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 4: Hell of a Boss. They're on YouTube. They're free to watch.

1156
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 4: So has been Hotel is about the Princess of Hell.

1157
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 4: They have like a purge in Hell every year.

1158
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: Ar what the what the what the show is about?

1159
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: Are you saying that those shows are what you would

1160
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 2: You're becoming emotionally invested in.

1161
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 5: Yes, but the.

1162
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 4: Problem is the season finale of of one of the

1163
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 4: shows is taking a while to come out because it's

1164
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 4: an independently funded show, and then the other one, the

1165
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 4: other one is a is it's still coming out, So

1166
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 4: I'm kind of invested in that.

1167
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you do?

1168
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: What do you do for for a living? Or are

1169
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: you in are you in school? Or do you work?

1170
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 4: I work at this place called micro Chip micro Chip Man.

1171
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 4: People are people are mean?

1172
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 5: And chat.

1173
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: Joe Joe, Joe Joey. Can you hear me? Mhm, Joy,

1174
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: Please don't read the chat. Please put the chat away

1175
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: and we'll just you and me talk. Don't worry about

1176
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: what they're saying. They're not real people, they're just spots.

1177
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: This is all and you're not real either. The callers

1178
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: aren't real. I'm not real. No, No, this is real.

1179
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: We're all a dream in my head. Don't read the chat?

1180
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: Can you hear me, Joey, Yes, I can hear you. Sorry, No,

1181
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: it's okay, man, don't worrybout. Don't listen to anything. O

1182
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: they said. Okay, all right, so you have you have

1183
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 2: your boyfriend? You are, Yeah, you work at this place

1184
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: called microchip. Tell me, tell me more about your job.

1185
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: What do you do there?

1186
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 4: So it's it's kind of hard to describe what I

1187
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 4: do there because it's like I literally make microchips. So

1188
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: I'm in a clean room, like I'm wearing a bunny suit,

1189
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,479
Speaker 4: which is kind of like a half in that suit

1190
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 4: of white, and like you have to put boots on,

1191
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 4: you have to put glasses on, but the whole shield.

1192
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 2: Okay. Do you like your job?

1193
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 4: Not really? But it pays very well and it's a

1194
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 4: very it's like a very professional job.

1195
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. So you don't like the job itself,

1196
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: but you like the status and the money, which is fair.

1197
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: Right.

1198
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: Okay, See if your boyfriends he lives an hour away.

1199
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: Do you have Do you have friends?

1200
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 3: Yes?

1201
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 6: I do.

1202
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 4: They're they are they're very busy because they deal with

1203
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 4: a lot of crap themselves. Sure, so I don't really

1204
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 4: get to talk to them that often. And we do

1205
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 4: hang out at a club meeting like at like a

1206
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 4: club every every other Wednesday that I can make.

1207
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: It for for for a card game awesome. So if

1208
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: your card game club every other week, that's great. You

1209
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 2: have this job which you seem like you're proud of

1210
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: and spaking the money. If you don't like the job

1211
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: that much yourself, you have this, boyfriends, is the reason

1212
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm asking you all this stuff because you know, we're

1213
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 2: kind of trying to find like you're getting and and

1214
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 2: you and this is you you telling me that you

1215
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 2: feel like it's a problem for you being too heavily

1216
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 2: emotionally invested into uh sports, which is something that you

1217
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 2: just you know, I mean it's a classic thing that

1218
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: you have no control over and that it has no

1219
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 2: control over you, you know. So I think it's you know,

1220
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: everybody has their thing, whether it's video games or movies

1221
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: or whatever, and you know, if it makes you happy,

1222
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: that's awesome. But you know, I think you also understand

1223
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: that like there's a you know, you want to limit

1224
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 2: your amount of emotional investment in this kind of stuff

1225
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: before it gets like too real, because you're describing it

1226
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: as getting too real and find better things to be

1227
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: emotionally invested in. And your relationships are great things to

1228
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: be emotionally invested in. You know, your friends. I love

1229
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 2: that you have this card group of people. I think

1230
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 2: that's awesome. I love that you have this relationship that's

1231
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: that's new, that you seem excited about. That's awesome. You

1232
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: don't seem too invested in your job, but that's that's okay.

1233
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: Now everyone has to love their job. But I guess

1234
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of, like, what are some productive

1235
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: things for you to get a mouly invested in that

1236
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:08,440
Speaker 2: aren't just uh, you know, sports or or entertainment necessarily.

1237
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And see, see that's the problem because I funny,

1238
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 4: funnily enough, I do have a real therapist and a

1239
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 4: psychiatrist and we talk about these things because I do.

1240
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 4: I do take antidepressants and stuff. But the problem is,

1241
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 4: like it they like, all they help me do is

1242
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 4: like get out of bed, really, and then it's up

1243
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 4: to me to determine what to do. And I'm not

1244
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 4: a very interesting person. I live kind of in a

1245
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 4: I live in a very beautiful city where there's a

1246
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 4: lot of nature outdoorsy stuff, and I'm not a very

1247
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 4: outdoorsy person. So you know, I'm more like, let's go

1248
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 4: do things with people. Let's go let's go hang out

1249
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 4: with people. But the problem is we don't have anybody

1250
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 4: to go do those things with. No, then you kind

1251
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 4: of just have to find something, you know.

1252
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 2: Hm hmmm. Because you say you're not a very interesting person,

1253
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: do you do you genuine question? Do you want to

1254
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: be more interesting?

1255
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 5: Well?

1256
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 4: I mean yes and no, Like I I want I

1257
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 4: want to I want to be a good enough person

1258
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 4: and an interesting enough person to be able to make

1259
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 4: an impact on the world where I can make people smile,

1260
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 4: make people happy, just you know, be enlighten people's lives

1261
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 4: where they don't have one.

1262
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I want to say, right there,

1263
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: I just want to say, right there, I think what

1264
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: you just said, that goal. I think that in and

1265
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: of itself is a thing that is worth you becoming

1266
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: emotionally invested in. Is the the idea of that and

1267
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 2: how you can execute upon that idea? Does that make sense?

1268
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, because.

1269
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 4: So like try and find try and find a way

1270
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 4: to get involved in like local community and stuff.

1271
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I love that. I mean, yeah, that's one

1272
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 2: of you know, a billion different ways that you can

1273
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: satisfy that goal right there. I'm a big fan of

1274
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 2: the general, the general idea that can be filled in

1275
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: many different vessels, such as getting involved in local ship

1276
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 2: like you just said. So I think that, right there

1277
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 2: is a great thing to be emotionally invested in that's

1278
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: not necessarily you know, sports or or entertainment. Tell me,

1279
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: what else does your therapist tell you when you bring

1280
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: all this ship up to them?

1281
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 4: So my therap, I actually my last meeting with him

1282
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 4: was like two weeks ago because I can't afford him

1283
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 4: anymore because he's I have insurance, but he's out of market,

1284
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 4: so I have to pay out of pocket for him. Yeah,

1285
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 4: so I'm actually working on buying a new therapist. But

1286
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 4: what he was saying was, you know, I think maybe

1287
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 4: the stems from you just having a having an overwhelming

1288
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 4: sense of self hate.

1289
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: Hmmm, really, what was the reason for that?

1290
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 4: Because because I do have an overwhelming sense of self loathing,

1291
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 4: self hatred, self skitty you know stuff, right, And you know,

1292
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 4: and you know, I look at people like you while

1293
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 4: and I see the great impact you're having on your community,

1294
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 4: and you know, that's what I want to do. I

1295
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 4: want to help people, even if it's just talking. You know,

1296
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 4: talking to someone even for five minutes a day can

1297
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 4: maybe save someone's life, you know.

1298
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: M yeah, man, I appreciate you saying that. I think, well,

1299
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 2: I think that's awesome. I I think that if if

1300
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: you get anything out of it, if we can take

1301
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 2: this call down to a thesis of it for you

1302
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: to like think about with all this shit, I think

1303
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 2: that right there is the thesis is is you know,

1304
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: great you have and I've talked to people a lot

1305
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: about this before. You have like this central idea that

1306
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: you want to help people. That's a great it's a

1307
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 2: fantastic foundation. Not not necessarily that idea itself, but just

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Speaker 2: to have any idea of what you want to do

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Speaker 2: while you're alive. And so all this all this emotional

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Speaker 2: energy that you're putting into, if I can give you

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Speaker 2: one sort of recommendation, all this emotional energy that you're

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Speaker 2: putting into, and not to say that you have to

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Speaker 2: stop watching hockey or stop you know, uh, watching these

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01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: these online shows or anything like that, but like I

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Speaker 2: would take some of the emotional energy that you're putting

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Speaker 2: into those things and put it into really sitting down

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01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 2: and thinking like I would like, dude, even if you

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Speaker 2: wrote out a list on paper of like, Okay, I

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Speaker 2: want to help people. I want to give back to

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Speaker 2: the community in some way. What are concrete ways that

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Speaker 2: I could do that. Does it involve going on fucking

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01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: Facebook events and finding when people are picking up trash

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Speaker 2: at the local park, or does it involve going on

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01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: YouTube and making videos talking about your experience with your

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01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: self hatred and how that you know you sharing that

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Speaker 2: might be able to help other people. Whatever, it is,

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01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: just like taking some time to brainstorm and really think

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01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: about actionable ways for you to accomplish this central idea

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Speaker 2: that you have, I think would help. And I think

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Speaker 2: that And I'm not a real therapist. I'm i going

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01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: to tell you anything that your real therapist, you know whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I think with the self hatred thing, I think

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Speaker 2: we all deal with a little bit of that. And

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Speaker 2: I think if you had a little bit of evidence

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Speaker 2: for yourself, right, if you sat down and you wrote

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Speaker 2: this stuff out, and then you went and actioned upon it,

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Speaker 2: and then it provided you with a little bit of

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Speaker 2: evidence of like, Okay, great I do and you and

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Speaker 2: this will happen. This will happen if you take some

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Speaker 2: form of action toward it is a little bit of

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Speaker 2: evidence will sprout up and you'll be like, oh, I

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01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 2: do have the ability to affect change in other people,

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Speaker 2: and I have evidenced that to myself through these actions

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Speaker 2: I've taken. You know, your brain won't be able to

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Speaker 2: ignore that, So that that is what I would I

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Speaker 2: would recommend to you. What do you what do you

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Speaker 2: think about all of that?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I think you're right. I think that's that's some

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01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 4: of the best advice I've gotten in a long time.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I really I can't believe it's coming

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Speaker 4: from a get go.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't believe it's coming from the get go.

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Speaker 4: But Lyle, thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Of course, man, Joey, of course, of course. What's the

1355
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 2: name of this team again?

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Speaker 4: The Colorado Avalanche?

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Speaker 2: Colorado. Okay, I'll be keeping an eye on the Colorado Avalanche.

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Speaker 2: And I do hope you take the time to think

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Speaker 2: about actionable ways to you go off on that idea,

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Speaker 2: because I believe in your Joey, you sound like a

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Speaker 2: sweet guy, and uh, you know, I'm wishing you good

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01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 2: luck on your journey.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, And people don't forget to tip your bartenders.

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Speaker 2: Touching baby, have a good night, joe.

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Speaker 5: Lyle.

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Speaker 4: I like Joey.

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Speaker 2: He's a sweet guy. He's a sweet guy. I talk

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Speaker 2: about this all the time on here, rarely think about

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Speaker 2: it when I'm trying to solve my own problems of

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Speaker 2: my own life. That's how a lot of therapy you

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Speaker 2: got those stuff goes from it of little moments in

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Speaker 2: my life where I'm like, well, you told people on

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Speaker 2: the internet you should to do this, when you fucking

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Speaker 2: do it, and I'm like, ah, fuck, I'm therapy geckoing

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Speaker 2: myself because I have tenants like that. The whole, the whole,

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Speaker 2: That whole call was about having a little inkling of

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Speaker 2: a general idea of what you want to do with

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Speaker 2: your time alive and then trying to figure out how

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Speaker 2: to do it, which is what I hope Joey does.

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Speaker 2: I think mine is that I just want to do

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Speaker 2: something interesting. I just want to be doing something interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think there's something interesting about talking to strangers on

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Speaker 2: the phone about their lives, and so I do that,

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Speaker 2: and if I ever can't do that, I will think

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Speaker 2: of something else interesting to do. It's always good to

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Speaker 2: have some sort of general, vague tenant. That is just

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01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: a floaty idea more so than a specific I want

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01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 2: to go to Berlin and be a be a crab fisherman,

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01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 2: because then when you're banned from Berlin and you find

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Speaker 2: out you're allergic to crabs, you're fucked. But if you're

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Speaker 2: just like I'm going to do interesting things, then you

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Speaker 2: know there's infinite ways to fulfill that. Good luck to Joey,

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01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 2: sweet boy. Sorry the chat was being mean to him.

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Speaker 2: Hope they don't do that again.

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Speaker 4: Everythink goes on the line, making your phone calls every night.

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Speaker 2: Everythingcon goes to it and ride you're teaching.

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Speaker 1: Your cloud on the meaning of your life.

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Speaker 2: That he's not really an expert.