WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Decisions, Decisions

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Monday, November twenty fifth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number eighty nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 1>We're live the s WBC Morria Studios at the Star,

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<v Speaker 1>and man, we have so much to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>day Cowboys lose. Last night, they lose thirteen to nine

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<v Speaker 1>to the New England Patriots, a game that was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>messy from the standpoint of the weather, but so many,

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<v Speaker 1>so many points that came from that game worth discussing,

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<v Speaker 1>and some things that were said after the game that

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<v Speaker 1>will definitely get into as well. Let's start first, as

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<v Speaker 1>we normally do, a particularly after a loss, and the

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<v Speaker 1>loss with so many storylines, I want to go around

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<v Speaker 1>the table and tell me each of you guys what

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<v Speaker 1>you think was the biggest storyline coming out of yesterday's game.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas start with you, Well, everyone's getting I probably say

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<v Speaker 1>the same same two things. But I mean I special

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<v Speaker 1>teams was the issue, and we talked about it all week.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have conditions like that, with the weather the

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<v Speaker 1>way it was, it neutralizes a lot. We had good offenses,

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<v Speaker 1>good defenses. It comes down to the little things and

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<v Speaker 1>little things of special teams, and so it just one

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<v Speaker 1>thing after another just continued to happen. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest differences between the Patriots and the Cowboys on

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<v Speaker 1>the field is the special teams units, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>they were exposed. Dave. Yeah, I mean I wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>my story last night. You know, people love to call

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<v Speaker 1>special teams hidden yardage, but there was nothing hidden about

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<v Speaker 1>it last night. It was right there and playing view

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody to see. Just a comedy of errors, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the I mean Bill Belichick himself said the

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<v Speaker 1>difference in the game was the block punt, like the

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<v Speaker 1>one short field the I mean, you know, the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>only had to go ten twelve yards on that possession,

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<v Speaker 1>only touchdown of the game. Cowboys couldn't buy somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>could handle the ball on a kick team to save

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<v Speaker 1>their life. The sequence with you know, the Patriots didn't

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<v Speaker 1>put a return man out there, and that just flummixed

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys beyond belief. Gave up twenty yards of fuel

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<v Speaker 1>position on an eventual New England field goal drive. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it almost like it feels cheap, like it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>Hindsight's twenty twenty to sit here and harp on the

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<v Speaker 1>special teams. But like in the moment, in a game

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<v Speaker 1>that was that tight, I'm looking at the sheet five

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<v Speaker 1>out of twenty seven on third down between these two teams,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when nobody could buy a first down, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just painstakingly obvious that the Patriots had the details fine

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<v Speaker 1>tuned and the Cowboys did not. Amber I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just very unfortunate for the Cowboys. Like Nick said, when

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<v Speaker 1>it's not one thing, it's another. And when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about special teams, this was a game that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>could have definitely won. I mean, when you see the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the Pages were playing, it was just in

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<v Speaker 1>favor for the Cowboys, despite them being at home and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the factors that go into that, and the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching and all of that. This was a very winnable game.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, the Cowboys just can't stay out of their

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<v Speaker 1>own ways, and they just keep making mistake after mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>things that didn't make much sense. And then some of

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<v Speaker 1>the calls. There were a couple of times, and I

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<v Speaker 1>saw people talking about it on Twitter as well. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're being successful running the ball with seek or poler

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<v Speaker 1>and then on a third down you decide to throw

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<v Speaker 1>a pass, it's like, why why go that route? So

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<v Speaker 1>again it's just cowboys stepping on their own foot and

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<v Speaker 1>making their own mistakes. All right, let's dive a little

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<v Speaker 1>deeper into the special teams. What do you guys think

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<v Speaker 1>was the biggest special team snaff food? Because there were

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<v Speaker 1>you debut outlined some of them. You had the block

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<v Speaker 1>punt you had obviously, and I'll even take the block

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<v Speaker 1>punt out because I think the block punt we all

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<v Speaker 1>know without the block punt, there may not have been

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown in that game that the Patriots would have scored.

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<v Speaker 1>But looking at the other things, you got the kickoff

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<v Speaker 1>returns where they couldn't quite figure out that maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>should move the returner up ten yards because those kicks

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<v Speaker 1>were coming short. You had the situation there with the

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<v Speaker 1>two penalties that that that were twenty yards of lost

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<v Speaker 1>yardage that would have pinned the Patriots back instead gave

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<v Speaker 1>them a ball in pretty favorable a field position. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was at their thirty eight. I want to say, um,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at everything happened from a special team standpoint, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think outside of the block punt was the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that that you look at and you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys just basically got outcoached in this situation. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>sequence with the twenty extra yards on the punt just

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<v Speaker 1>felt so in them. Like I said, in the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so glaring where you know, the Patriots just

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<v Speaker 1>were like, well, we're gonna, We're not gonna. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a returner, and the Cowboys were so freaked out by

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<v Speaker 1>that that they took a delay of game. Didn't they

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<v Speaker 1>get the punt off? And it I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>a great punt by Chris Jones. The Patriots would have

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<v Speaker 1>had the ball at their own eighteen yard line inside

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty, and again the Cowboys were so freaked out

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<v Speaker 1>by accounting for the change in protection because the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>had an extra man, which, like I've never coached football,

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely never coached special teams, but like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know it doesn't. It just doesn't seem like such a

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<v Speaker 1>drastic change that it's going to screw you up twice.

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<v Speaker 1>But it did, and it was a twenty yard difference

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<v Speaker 1>on an eventual field goal drive. I don't have his

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a bad thing. But they got outcoached

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<v Speaker 1>by Bill Belichick on that play. You got outcoached by

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and the and the freaking weather by not realizing

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<v Speaker 1>that at some point moved the move Tony Pollard up

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<v Speaker 1>ten yards because they're not kicking it. They can't kick

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<v Speaker 1>it that far. Yeah, just see the win. So to

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<v Speaker 1>not be prepared for that. They did that against Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>and there was no rain or wind, and they still

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<v Speaker 1>moved it up because they realized that's what the Lions

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<v Speaker 1>were doing. So I don't know, they just put too

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<v Speaker 1>much faith and those guys back there to catch it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I mean, if you're tied in you

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<v Speaker 1>can't catch the ball like that, Like what I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand if Tony Potter can't catch the ball like that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the whole the whole unit is just it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mess. It's an absolute mess. And it was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>after the game Bill Belichick when he was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you know, we went into the game with

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<v Speaker 1>the intention that we wanted to challenge their their ball

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<v Speaker 1>handling skills for their of their returners. When you think

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<v Speaker 1>about that kind of level of detail, you think about, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go into this game, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things we think we can challenge because of the

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<v Speaker 1>weather is their ability to be able to fill the kick.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's the part that to me goes well beyond

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't I don't know. I'm not in any

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<v Speaker 1>of the coaching meetings, but I certainly don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>suspect that's the kind of thing that that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are necessarily doing. And that's the part that really when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you go up against the coach that thinks

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<v Speaker 1>about everything. I'm not trying to cut you off. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's hard returning, but you're not gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>that because this team and this coach doesn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we talked about it earlier. Parking lot, home away,

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot and moon we do what we do, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crap, because what you need to do is do

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<v Speaker 1>it differently. When the rain is coming down and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a win, and then you got to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do differently. This hole given us hotel keys

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<v Speaker 1>that say be who we are. That's that doesn't work

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't be who you are because that's it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work. Seventy two degrees at at and t Staateum,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the way it was. You have to adjust.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't adjust, and Belichick went into the game thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that Cowboys didn't. They went into the game thinking Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Polar stands at the goal line like he always does

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<v Speaker 1>and the ball goes over his head and oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't do that. Now what it's a scramble drill.

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<v Speaker 1>Do what we do? Just why not do what they

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<v Speaker 1>don't do? Like, yeah, do it works? It works? Do

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<v Speaker 1>it works? Yeah? And again we are We are making

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<v Speaker 1>some assumptions that they didn't have these kinds of conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>but it certainly didn't really if they did, didn't reflect

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<v Speaker 1>on the field. It didn't feel like they practice or

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<v Speaker 1>raining on Thursday and in the Forth Center where they practice,

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<v Speaker 1>but Thursday, I think it might have been raining outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, I've been raining around Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>But they should have been prepared for that part. They

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<v Speaker 1>really do you need to work gloves or do you

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<v Speaker 1>go without gloves. I mean you should know that you

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<v Speaker 1>should know yourself how you handle balls at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in your fourth year. And to be fair, we had

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<v Speaker 1>this discussion last week and I think I think I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>if I remember correctly, I think the conversation went in

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<v Speaker 1>the way of, Okay, you have two ways you can

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<v Speaker 1>look at this. You can look at it as let's

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<v Speaker 1>get a good day of practice by going inside and

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<v Speaker 1>not dealing with the elements so that we can make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we have a good day of practice, or

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<v Speaker 1>let's go outside and maybe not have as great a

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<v Speaker 1>day of practice, but at least you get to simulate

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<v Speaker 1>the elements. And I don't know how everybody felt on that,

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<v Speaker 1>however everybody landed on that, but certainly you look at

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<v Speaker 1>what happened yesterday and in hindsight, at least you think

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe they should have given a little more credence

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact that you had an opportunity to mimic

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<v Speaker 1>what you were going to face against the Patriots, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just it was a missed opportunity. Nobody on this

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<v Speaker 1>team really looked like they were prepared for a slick football.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know even you know, the biggest offensive

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<v Speaker 1>play of the game, Randall cop fifty eight yards, he

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<v Speaker 1>like fumbled to himself mid play. I feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>happened again too, like it, I mean, didn't Jar would

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<v Speaker 1>have a kind of a Jarwin popped it to himself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when bad snap on on a pretty big

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<v Speaker 1>play for Dak, which, yeah, the snap was bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>then Dak needed a minute to corral it. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I definitely I wasn't going into this game like

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<v Speaker 1>clutching my pearls that they hadn't practiced in the rain.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel cheap harping on it now. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, nobody looked ready for it. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>and the Patriots handled it a lot better than they did,

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<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about that. Yeah, And I really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I know I was the only one on here

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<v Speaker 1>that picked the Cowboys, and I don't. I don't take

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<v Speaker 1>that back at all, because I really think watching that game,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm even more convinced than I was before. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have better football players than the Patriots. They

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<v Speaker 1>really do. They do. And I think that if they

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<v Speaker 1>played that game again and there's no excuses about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it they play that game again, they play

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<v Speaker 1>at atnc STAM, I think the Cowboys definitely win that game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they win it again if it's if we're

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<v Speaker 1>probably going the same way. Finish that. Finish that thought,

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<v Speaker 1>though I can hear people screaming the rest of that

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<v Speaker 1>thought into their coaching. Yeah, the Cowboys have much better

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<v Speaker 1>players and the Patriots have much better coaches. So true,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean there's thirty one other teams that that

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<v Speaker 1>that don't have better coaches than Belichair. But that's also

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<v Speaker 1>why they're nine and one with a roster right now

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<v Speaker 1>that offensively isn't doing nothing. Ten and one. I'm tending one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry they're tending one. But that's my point. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you take that game, you put that in

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<v Speaker 1>at and T Stadium, forget, you put it wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to know the rain did the Cowboys win? I honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I came back to the same thing. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that when it comes down to those close kind of

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<v Speaker 1>games like they have to play there, I think coaching

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<v Speaker 1>makes a difference. And I think no matter where they

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<v Speaker 1>would have been, they would have had the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of situation. And I don't I mean the Patriots would

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<v Speaker 1>have played better us well, agree and don't even don't

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<v Speaker 1>tweet at me and say that I'm given excuses. What

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is is the Patriots, in their coaching and

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<v Speaker 1>special rooms, they handle that thing better than the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it affected Dallas more than an affected

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<v Speaker 1>New England. Yeah, I really do, don't you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not giving excuses. I just think the Cowboys are

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<v Speaker 1>a better football team if the conditions, but they can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I that has to be perfect for them, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a sign of a good football and they have

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<v Speaker 1>to they have to play a perfect game. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem this season. Well this season, what we what

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen is against good teams, they don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of room for error and they haven't been able

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<v Speaker 1>to play the clean kind of game they need in

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<v Speaker 1>order to beat these good teams. And to me, that

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<v Speaker 1>suggests that maybe the talent may be there, but for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, they're not able to click enough. I would

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<v Speaker 1>argue they have a lot of room for error, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how sloppy and unpoised they are. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>lost the turnover battle minus two and all the hidden yardage.

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<v Speaker 1>We just talked about like they made a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes and still only lost by four and had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win the game at the end. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of room for error, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that speaks a lot of how talented they are and

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<v Speaker 1>how not poised well coached. You put some of it

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<v Speaker 1>on execution too, I mean, untimely flags. Some of that's

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<v Speaker 1>on the players, But they don't bring their a game basically. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>We've said it a thousand times and I've said it

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<v Speaker 1>at least, I mean, they're not clutch. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>a clutch football team that wins in the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>when when the game's on the line and the crowd's

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<v Speaker 1>going nuts and they've got they're piping in the sound

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<v Speaker 1>and it's third and eight and all that that they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not making the place. We're gonna take the place,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I know where we're gonna go. But to

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<v Speaker 1>think that the Cowboys are going to go and make

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<v Speaker 1>the play, we're gonna get into the field goal decision,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I mean that just goes back to arrogance

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking that you're going to go down there. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to throw this in there. I hear what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, and I think you have a valid point.

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<v Speaker 1>But if this game was played and seventy two degrees

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<v Speaker 1>indoors at at and T, I completely trust Bill Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>to find a way to use that to his advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be like, well, we knew the light would be

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<v Speaker 1>in Dack's eyes on in the third quarter, and like that,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew that the board up there was gonna admit

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<v Speaker 1>certain certain electronical electronic magnetic field or something, some of it,

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<v Speaker 1>some of it. Like it's a snowball effect, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's an amazing coach, he's a Hall of Famer, he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best ever, and he probably gets more

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<v Speaker 1>credit than he deserves because of it. Just like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it just snowballs and you start giving him credit for

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that maybe he didn't even do on purpose. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, he deserves it. Yeah, he absolutely deserves it.

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<v Speaker 1>And for my money, I think he would have found

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<v Speaker 1>a way to eke out that game in perfect conditions. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we we'll never know, but I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>just it's unfortunate because this, you know, weather like that

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<v Speaker 1>neutralizes everything. It comes down to the little stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that's where it was a huge, you know, advantage

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<v Speaker 1>for the Patriots to win. And then that's that's why

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are not a good football team right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just a kind of a above bridge team that

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<v Speaker 1>can hang in there with the good teams, but they

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<v Speaker 1>don't beat them. As if we didn't talk enough about coaching,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to take a break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about coaching because Jerry Jones had some

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting things to say last night after the game

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<v Speaker 1>about his coaches. Well, when we come right back. This

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<v Speaker 1>live this WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Cowboys lost yesterday. They lose thirteen nine to

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<v Speaker 1>New England Patriots, and they got a game coming up

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<v Speaker 1>quick here Thursday, Thanksgiving Day. They played the Buffalo Bills,

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<v Speaker 1>who were also nine and three, eight and three or

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<v Speaker 1>eight and three. So uh so, ay, is there's no

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<v Speaker 1>rest at this point? You gotta keep them rolling and

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys be back at practice this afternoon, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this evening or is it just going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>open mine? I think it's practices tomorrow and Wednesday. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so they'll do practice tomorrow and Wednesday and they'd be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to play by Thursday. We do have a seven

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<v Speaker 1>pm press conference with Jason Garrett, so we'll have Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>going for you all day to day. Stay tuned. Guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are frustrated with Garrett for different reasons, so are we,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe maybe no one cares about that. But all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so here we go. I want to talk about coaching

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<v Speaker 1>because coach Garrett or I'm sorry, Jason, I'm sorry Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>where yesterday, Jerry had some very interesting things to say

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<v Speaker 1>about his coaching staff, and I'm gonna read there were

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<v Speaker 1>three quotes I thought were very interesting. I'm gonna read

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<v Speaker 1>these quotes and I want to get reaction from you

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<v Speaker 1>guys on what it means for Jason Garrett and his staff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that every aspect of special teams, when you

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<v Speaker 1>really look at it, have been problematic for us. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no question about that. To me, special teams is one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent coaching. It's one hundred percent coaching. It's strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's having players ready. That's why today Belichick give them credit.

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<v Speaker 1>They did a great job on special teams and that

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<v Speaker 1>was really probably the determining difference. But special teams is

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but coaching. Final quote. I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>any into anything about coaching relative to changes or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but I will tell you at special teams

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<v Speaker 1>is a total reflection of coaching. Do we see a

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<v Speaker 1>theme there? I love that. I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into coaching. That's kind of like you know when your

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<v Speaker 1>spouse says, I don't really want to get in a

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<v Speaker 1>fight here, but whatever comes up to. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get into coaching. But this is a

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<v Speaker 1>reflection of coaching, right, I have been good. They need

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<v Speaker 1>to block a punt return a kick, those not just one.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been at ninety nine point nine percent of Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Jones's postgame media sessions since I started covering this team,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have never heard him like that. He's typically hilled.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a glass half full kind of guy. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>interested in throwing people under the bus or you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jerry Jones always makes headlines when he talks,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's usually not scorched earth stuff like that. I counted,

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<v Speaker 1>I transcribe the whole thing he said some variation of

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated or disappointed fifteen times. Uh and and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>just shot across the bow at special teams in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, the whole coaching staff, I've never I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard him be that pointed, even in the wake

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<v Speaker 1>of I mean, and he talks after basically every game,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are really devastating losses. That was new,

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<v Speaker 1>and it to me, it was putting people on notice

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<v Speaker 1>that this isn't gonna cut it. You know what else?

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<v Speaker 1>It was And I only got to hear a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of it, But you know how you say, he's

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<v Speaker 1>optimistic a lot of the times, even on these tough losses.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like the frustration of those came out Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>because he basically said, yeah, don't expect to fix your

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<v Speaker 1>problems up here. You're not gonna be he said. He

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<v Speaker 1>also said that you're going to get out coached up here.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's basically his frustration about the Jets game, the

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<v Speaker 1>Vikings game, maybe the Saints game, that all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>came to the forefront going, you shouldn't have had to

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<v Speaker 1>come to Foxboro and win this game to right the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing should have been fixed before it here. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually he wrote about that last night, and you took

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<v Speaker 1>the words right out of my mouth. Is like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>weird to hear an NFL executive talk like that. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we talk, you know, Like we said it

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<v Speaker 1>after the Jets game, like, well they put themselves behind

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<v Speaker 1>the eight ball now because the Patriots now, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>are still one. That's basically what Jerry said, is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm paraphrasing, but he was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if we handle business against the Jets and at least

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<v Speaker 1>like one or two of the Saints and Vikings and Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>We're sitting here at seven and four or eight and three,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're just like, yeah, it's hard to win up here,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's no big DAC team. It doesn't really matter

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, but unless your overall

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<v Speaker 1>record needs it, when it drops you to six and

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<v Speaker 1>five and compounds all the same problems we've been seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>I get why Jerry's frustrated. Well, you know, every week

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<v Speaker 1>when these guys talk, whether it's Jerry Jones or Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett or any of the player including Dak, they're usually

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good at keeping everything very neutral and not really

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<v Speaker 1>showing their emotions or anything, keeping it very political correct,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And this week I feel like everybody I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to you can tell by the way they answer things.

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<v Speaker 1>When you know this, when you're around long enough, you

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<v Speaker 1>get a feel of how they are and when the

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<v Speaker 1>way they answer things. And now I'm starting to get

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<v Speaker 1>a frustration from all of them in the way they answer,

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<v Speaker 1>including Jason Garrett. Some of the things, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>ways he answered last night, you can just tell that

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<v Speaker 1>he is frustrated. And I mean, I'm not saying that's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice thing to be, but to do but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's just it's good when you get to

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<v Speaker 1>see that from their end and it makes you feel like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not that crazy after all, or they're not that

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and you feel like, Okay, we're on the same tune.

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<v Speaker 1>And at least Jerry Jones it's not blind as to

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on with the coaching and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's good to finally hear those kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you're not happy about it. Yep, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's from the top down. I think you get a vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, from Jerry Jones to the inactive players. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody knows that this team's better on paper than

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<v Speaker 1>what they've put on the field. And I'll be in

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's five games left that can neither galvanize

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<v Speaker 1>you to get it together and play better, or I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it could tear the team apart too. We have

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<v Speaker 1>not seen that under Jason Garrett. Ever, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>new territory. And you know, the interesting part of about

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<v Speaker 1>that to me is I wonder how much Jerry expressing

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<v Speaker 1>his frustration last night has players to where they're now

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<v Speaker 1>looking like we kind of with thinking that, but nobody

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>wants to say it right, you know, when when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear it now from the owner, then it becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where it's like, well, you know, yeah, there'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>some decisions that could have been made differently. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>being put in the best position to succeed. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you start really having those problems. Where does the

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<v Speaker 1>coach Does he have a way to pull the team

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<v Speaker 1>back together and make sure they don't fracture at this

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<v Speaker 1>point because he's not and this is probably recognizably so,

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<v Speaker 1>because his staff is not putting their team in the

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<v Speaker 1>best position. I wonder how much voice these players actually

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<v Speaker 1>have when they go into meetings. Do they Are they

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<v Speaker 1>really voicing their opinions as to like how they're being

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<v Speaker 1>utilized on the field. I don't know, but i'd be

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 1>curious to know. I also think we I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching was was not good, but let's put some

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<v Speaker 1>of it on me. You gotta put some on the

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>players too. They didn't play very well. I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>talk about goats, catch it, I'm sorry, catch the ball, Jason,

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:32.440
<v Speaker 1>When you catch it the ball, that's right, And that's

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that's he does, right, You expect he's gonna catch the

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<v Speaker 1>ball because that's the greatest thing he brings to the type.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I'm not just trying to single out him,

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of guys like that Tyrant Smith.

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.200
<v Speaker 1>You can't get a false start penalty like that, push

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<v Speaker 1>the back five yards. Maha needs every yard you can get.

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 1>You can't do that that. That was a three point

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<v Speaker 1>penalty right there. So I mean there's I get frustration

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<v Speaker 1>with the coach because it's really easy to just start

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<v Speaker 1>here and then it trickles down. But these players that

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 1>are making a lot of money make make some plays.

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 1>They needed you to make more play. Some of these

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:08.159
<v Speaker 1>guys on defense, some offensive linemen they needed Dak to

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 1>step up and make plays. So all around, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a frustrating day for the coaching and the

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.639
<v Speaker 1>special teams. But these players that are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>voted to the Pro Bowl, they didn't play that well

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 1>either yesterday at times. I mean, there were some times

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>that they dropped the ball too literally, I agree with

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:29.159
<v Speaker 1>you to a point, but again, I mean the conditions

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 1>made that game such a wash, I mean, and it

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me of the I mean, the last time they

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<v Speaker 1>really played in conditions like that twenty seventeen, you could point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the defense and the special teams really made

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<v Speaker 1>the difference in that game. They had a pick six,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a block field goal that got returned to

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<v Speaker 1>the goal line. They needed plays like that. But at

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the same time, you know, Zeke had thirty five carries

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.199
<v Speaker 1>in that game because it's the only thing they could do. So, no,

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>they the offense didn't play well. They outgained the Patriots.

0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's hard for me to say they

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<v Speaker 1>put them selves in position to win, but in conditions

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<v Speaker 1>like that, well you get what you Honestly, again, he

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>said it, it has to be defense and special teams

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and games like that, and they were clearly outplayed on

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>defense and special teams, and that's where the difference was

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>in this game. Three straight games without a takeaway, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know what, the Cowboys were the last team in

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>the league to start on the opponent's side of the field.

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.880
<v Speaker 1>They finally broke that streak, I think against the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, how many truly short fields has this

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.640
<v Speaker 1>offense been given. It's a testament to how good they've

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>been most of the year, that they've been so good

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>despite that, I mean, they're driving the field every time,

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>and I hate to blame the defense. They gave up

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>thirteen points. I really feel like they did their job.

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<v Speaker 1>But in games like that, you've got to create short fields,

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<v Speaker 1>and it did not. Just so you have a frame

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of referenced, the Cowboys average starting fil position was their

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>own twenty one average starting field position, for the Patriots

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>their own forty one, as twenty yards difference in their

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 1>star average starting field position. Two of their drives are

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>in Cowboys territory, one of them in the red zone exactly,

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.360
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that's your difference in the game. Again,

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>a game like that, everybody was having, you know, drops

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and misques. I mean, Edelman dropped a couple of passes,

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 1>So it happens in those kinds of situations. I just

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>think at the end of the day, you gotta be

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 1>able to overcome that. Specifically, we just special teams and

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>playing a film position game, and that's where coaching becomes

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>so important. We're gonna take our final break when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back. I do want to dive a little deeper

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<v Speaker 1>into some of the coaching decisions that were made in

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that game and get some opinions from you guys on

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>how egregious they were. We'll talk about that when we

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<v Speaker 1>in the s WBC mort Studios at the Star. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we jump back into talking about this Cowboys features game, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>T Stadum. I'm sorry, let's go. Let's te right football.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we buried the lead. It's forty minutes. No

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>one's talking about the fourth and seven. All right, let's

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about that. Let's talk about some of these coaching decisions.

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>The first one that Nick obviously wants to talk about

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>is the fourth and well, I mean Cowboys. Cowboys make

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:19.959
<v Speaker 1>the decision that they want to kick a field goal

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>on fourth and seven. They're in the fourth quarter. It

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 1>was six something left in the game, and they decided

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>they want to go for a field goal. Howard Gregious,

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>was that mistake? If you believe that it was a mistake,

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Nick took the words right out of my mouth, So

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you just go ahead and say it. I just I

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>believe that Jason said if it was more manageable, they

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>would have gone for it. That's their fault that it's

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>not manageable. I don't don't hate the fourth and seven

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>field goal. I hate the fact that they made it

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>fourth and seven. They didn't have to. It's a rainy,

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>wet game. They can't throw, they can't snap, they can't catch.

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<v Speaker 1>So how about we run the football, keep running in

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>on third down, on second down, and then maybe it's

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>fourth and two for it. Maybe it's first down, who knows,

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a totally different situation. They decide that Dak wants

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to run around and throw it to Blake Jarwin bet

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>in the back of the end zone. He doesn't have

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the awareness to make that play. Jason Witten doesn't have

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the ability to make sliding catches behind Gilmore. That's not

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. They didn't. They didn't do a good job

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>of setting that up. So that's all you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I still would have gone for it on fourth and seven,

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>but it didn't have to be fourth and seven. The

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>whole series should have been predicated on the thought that

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>they were going to go for it on fourth down. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, Like I don't think they would have picked

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<v Speaker 1>up a fourth and seven. So I can't kill them

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<v Speaker 1>for kicking the field goal, Like I don't want I

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't want them to, but I think it's asinine to

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<v Speaker 1>think that they were going to pick up eight yards

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>after what we'd seen all day. But you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to throw it to Blake Jarwin with two guys on

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<v Speaker 1>him in the back of the end zone. You could

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>scramble maybe, honestly, maybe pick up the first down six

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>yards at the very least and set up a fourth

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and manageable. How about this. I love creativity, misdirection, all

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that cool stuff. But they've tried the freaking They've tried

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the option about five times this year and it never works. Ever,

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it has not worked once. They did it against the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets on a fourth down, I believe, and it blew

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<v Speaker 1>up in their face. They've run it at least four

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>times this year, and I would bet a paycheck that

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the longest it's gained is like three yards. So get

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>rid of that, please. But they all four of those

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>play calls should have been predicated on getting that first down,

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>because again, you talk about taking the pulse of your

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<v Speaker 1>team and something Brian always used to still does love

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<v Speaker 1>to say, knowing the situation. And I just think, and

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<v Speaker 1>to Jason Garrett's credit, it worked out. They got the

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>ball back, But you're again, you're I mean, they would

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>have had to have driven ninety five yards. Even if

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a Mari makes that catch, they're still sixty yards away

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>from Payder with a minute something to play. It's doable.

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<v Speaker 1>But why not just go put yourself in this position

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>to win the game right there? It's a way better

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>chance you're gonna pick up twenty yards and score a

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>touchdown with three minutes to play. Give your defense a

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>chance to pin their ears back and go after Tom

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Brady because he's gonna need to get down the field.

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<v Speaker 1>I like your odds of winning that way better. Then Okay, well,

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>if we force this three and out and play this perfectly,

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>then we'll have a chance to drive ninety yards to

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<v Speaker 1>score a touchdown. I don't buy that. Still don't hate

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<v Speaker 1>the decision to kick on fourth and seven because of

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the way the offense has been playing, But all of

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>your decision making up to that point should have been

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<v Speaker 1>about four down territory. In my opinion, I still look

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>at it though, if you would have been fourth and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they don't get the fourth and seven, I

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<v Speaker 1>look at it as you force you end up giving

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>them the ball there at the eleven yard line, So

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<v Speaker 1>most likely they're just at that point trying to solve

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<v Speaker 1>the game away. You probably get the ball back, you

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>probably still have an opportunity to do exactly what you

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>would have wanted to do anyway. So you're already down there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not likely you're going to drive all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back down there again take a shot, and again, I

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>think it goes back to what you were saying, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be aware that you're going to do

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that early on, and then you create two You call

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>two players that you think can get you a little closer,

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<v Speaker 1>one that can get you a little closer than seven yards,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a fourth and three, fourth and four you

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.239
<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit better about. So I do think

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>it's probably the decision, and that's where it starts getting

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<v Speaker 1>to these these conversations of analytics. I know there's been

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of conversation about that. Today. Jason was asked

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>about it, said that that's not something they really use

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>in that way. But when you think about it, you

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>know the Patriots they have analytics people who are talking

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>their coach throughout the game. The Baltimore Ravens analytics people

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>talking to the coaches throughout the game. It makes you

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.719
<v Speaker 1>wonder why the Cowboys wouldn't utilize that sort of technology.

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>That's sort of just you know, understanding the game in

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>a different way to give you the best opportunity to

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>win based upon math, based on the probability. Because their

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>head coach thinks that he is that guy because he

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>went to Princeton and all, I mean, maybe he thinks

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>he is that guy. I'm not saying I don't know this.

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not having lemonated with Jason Garrett about

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, so I don't know. But I'm just

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>saying it's hard. I mean, he's been around football forever.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how those coaches think about a guy

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>sitting up their moneyball like telling them that this is

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a good I don't know, and I don't even know

0:33:57.000 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>if that's a good way to do it. I don't

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>know if John on Hardball does it. In Baltimore says Okay,

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, the way I look at what I

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>look at is there's not a CEO in America that

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have people that are giving him information and then

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>he ultimately makes a decision. Just because you get the

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>information doesn't mean you have to use it. So if

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 1>a coach gets the information from let's say a person

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>that knows the probabilities, and says, hey, based on the

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing in the game, here's the probability of

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>what you should do right here, Jason could still overrule

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that and say, you know, my guts just telling me

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to do something. Difference, head Coat, he has the ability

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to do that. John Harbor The Athletic wrote about this

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>last week. John Harbaw's got a guy that's younger than

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>me giving him the win probabilities of every outcome of

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>every play throughout it. And did you hear what his

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>training was in? It wasn't just probability. Something he was

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>behavioral I think was behavioral sciences or something like that.

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>But the point was he's not just thinking about the probabilities.

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 1>He's also thinking about human behavior and how human behavior

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>factors into probability, which he also I mean, you know

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>we're going way back, but like week four or five,

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens played the Chiefs and they went for it

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>on fourth down like five times. They didn't get a

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of them. They lost the game. Harbaugh talked about it.

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:02.959
<v Speaker 1>He was like, yeah, you know, we listen to those guys,

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of it is my gut, but at

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>some point the numbers kind of tell you what the

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.479
<v Speaker 1>right course of action is. Right more than the fourth

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and seven. To me, the worst play of the game

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that affected the entire game was third and

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>one at the thirty five yard line at the two

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>minute warning. The team that is supposed to be a

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>run football team, that's physical. That's the only thing they're

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>really doing well. Third and one. They got to run

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the football there. They don't do that. And then yeah,

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 1>they get the first down. That's great. But I guarantee you,

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what the tripping call was. I guarantee

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 1>you that's not tripping. If you run the football, you're

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>setting yourself up for a situation. Now it's third and eleven.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I am looking at it now. That's not a trip.

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:46.879
<v Speaker 1>That's not a trip. It might be an attempted trip,

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't a trip. Putting your knee up like that,

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Dion Sanders did it for thirty years. Putting your knee

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>up like that is not a trip. It looks like

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>you might have thought about it, but that isn't a trip.

0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny is I said There's some people

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. They're like, we're really killing them for throwing,

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>when two weeks ago that's all we wanted them to do.

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, yeah, yeah, it was working. Throwing was

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>working against the Vikings in a dome. R running was

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>working against the Patriots outdoors. I guess you had to

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>be there to know how many. I think I see shrimp.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I think I see one down lineman on that play.

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>The Cowboy. I gave Kella Moore credit. During the game,

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>they ran a draw in a similar situation and picked

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 1>up five yards on a third and short. Zeke was

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>averaging four yards per carry. The run was really the

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>only thing they were doing with any consistency. They were

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>averaging four point two as a team. I think um

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and the past worked. I get it, it was a

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>bad call, but I there's so many more moving parts,

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and on a night, on a night when nobody could

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:46.399
<v Speaker 1>hang onto the ball, I just I think I would

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>have run the ball. I will say this, I would Yeah,

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I would have run the ball twice in that scenario

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>had it gotten to fourth and short. I will say

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 1>this about the tripping, and you and I we talked

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>about this a little bit off air a few minutes ago.

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I heard, um, I think it was Rob A. Wreck

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Ryan this morning on the air on NFL Network talking

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>about the far as ESPN talking about the fact that

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>that he had people that told him that essentially, the

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>tripping was something that Belichick had noticed throughout throughout his

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>preparation his film study on the Cowboys, and because of

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that sent in some clips to the league, and so

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the league then it tells their referees, Okay, here's something

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 1>that this coach is noticing. Be aware of it. And

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>that all makes sense to me because when you see

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a clip like that and you see the tripping call,

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you see right there, Travis Frederick's leg goes out. To me,

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 1>that looks like the referee saw the leg go out.

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>He didn't actually trip him, but he saw the leg

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 1>go out, and he's like, oh, yeah, that's what That's

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>what we've been talking about this week. Bam, here goes

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to flag and a similar thing could have happened with

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Tyren Smith. It didn't really look like a tripping call.

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>But if you're alerted to something and told, hey, this

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.919
<v Speaker 1>is something the Cowboys are doing regularly in these kinds

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>of situations, be aware of it same guy, then the

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>refs are gonna be looking for that particular call, right, Okay,

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it's the same exact player for the Patriots. Yeah, I

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>see it in high Tower, the same guy. I mean,

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>he's the one that goes in here and here. On

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 1>this play with Tyrn Smith, he just goes down. I

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 1>mean that. But you see in both instances though, he

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>goes down and the leg is out there a little bit,

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>so it makes sense. But again that goes back to coaching.

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Like when you see those kinds of things and you

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 1>can create these these things that the rest now have

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to pay attention to, it creates an opportunity for you,

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe to get these kinds of calls right in a

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>game that features like what how many games? How many

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>plays did they run in this game? Total? Like one

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.439
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty? Yeah, I hate even you know, even

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 1>take it all the way back to the NFC title

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>game last year, like everybody, you know the terrible call

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 1>the Saints should have had it. I get that game

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>went to overtime and Drew Brees through a terrible interception.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Nobody ever talks about that. Like I hate, I mean,

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I hate zeroing in on one play and like acting

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>like that's the reason why you lose a game. Very

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 1>similar to that situation, and I'm member the Saints Rams game.

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 1>The problem I had was was Peyton throwing the ball?

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, it goes down to, Okay, well

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>you know your kid went into this yard and the

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>dog bit their hand, and like, oh why did the

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 1>dog bright? Well let's well back up, why are they

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>in the yard, Like, let's go. You don't have to

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>do that. You don't have to pass on third and

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.879
<v Speaker 1>one to set that up. The Patriots or the Saints

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to pass down there early on to to

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>even let that thing happen. So I always kind of

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>take it back a player or two. I just think

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>third and one they should have run the ball. They

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>should have two plays to get a first down and

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>get this thing rolling, and they didn't, you know. And

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>then a Mari Cooper, we haven't talked about that. We

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know why he got shut out, so um they

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>out went. We're kind of we're running short on time.

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>But I don't like, am I crazy? I just like

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I have no beef with a Mari having the game

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that he had. Honestly, I know, like you you're all

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>pros are supposed to step up. Yeah, you're crazy for that, Okay,

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I think. I mean, but if we're gonna, if we're gonna,

0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>if this guy's gonna be worth twenty million a year, like,

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't he make a play? I mean, well, he was

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.359
<v Speaker 1>in a situation where he wasn't getting targets. He can't

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball himself though, or he can get targets,

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>he can get old. So are you saying he wasn't open,

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know that that he wasn't open as

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>much as maybe you just didn't throw him the ball.

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he caught a pass that tyrant on the

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>on the tyrant holding, we don't have that one, but

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the tyrant hold that that wiped out, he did have

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>a catch there, and he had a chance. He was

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>targeted here in fourth and eleven and would have been

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a great catch. It would happen him. And that's a

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 1>tough catch to making those conditions. So I don't kill

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 1>him too much for that one. But but I need

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>my guy him to make it. I get it, but

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I will I will tell you this too, and that

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>he was asked this question after the game, like don't

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you think that do you get frustrated that um that

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>they don't scheme up ways to get you open, because

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they I would assume they could. He was like, yeah,

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you can get anybody like you can try to scheme

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>up whoever you want to scheme up to get opportunities.

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>He said, Now, in conditions like it was a day,

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not certain that would have been the best thing.

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were running the ball effectively and again,

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and this this is a friends. I think in a

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>game like this, you have to realize your game plan

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.240
<v Speaker 1>is going to be don't mess it up on offense,

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of opportunities, and you gotta be able to

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>play a clean game on your special teams in defense,

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 1>and you got to be able to hopefully create some

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>some bad take advantage of some bad situations for your

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 1>opponent in those situations to get yourself a short field.

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>It was exactly what the Patriots did in that kind

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 1>of game. You're not gonna move the ball a ton.

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know that him getting more targets necessarily

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>makes that game any better, because I don't know the

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>quarterback was going to consistently be able to get it

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.439
<v Speaker 1>to him in a catchable way. I mean, that wasn't

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Dak's best game either, and probably because of the field conditions.

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, they just have

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to they have to figure out how to win those

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>close games. And that's a lot more about all the

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 1>other things that go into a game than it is

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>about getting Amari Cooper more targets. In my opinion, I

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>think that's letting them off the hook. He's supposed to

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 1>be an All World player. He had two targets. He

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't make a catch in the game. He got shadow

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>advices Gilmore, who had more catches than him in the game.

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that's bad. I mean, I put some of

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that on him. He's got to beat the best cornerback

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>in the game, especially when the conditions are what they are.

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Imagine if you're a cornerback back pedaling trying to cover

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>this guy, you should have an advantage. And he I mean,

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I need him to make more plays. In that game,

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 1>they threw thirty three times. I'd like to think he

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>would be open some of that and be able to

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>make a play. I mean, Gallup was making some plays.

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I get Gilmore is tough, but I mean, if if

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Cooper is an elite receiver, like he's about to be paid.

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>He needs to make more plays in that game. This

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>is my take. I don't killing him for it, but

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have great game against Buffalo and all. I

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>get it. But I'm just saying they needed all of

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 1>their playmakers to step up there and didn't happen enough.

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Didn't happen enough yet not all right. We appreciate you, guys. Jonas.

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>We're back tomorrow. We're gonna start getting ready for this Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sorry for this Bills game. Dave. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna doing the baalt I mean, the Bills offense tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Bill's defense on Wednesday till then for

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Even, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Held

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<v Speaker 1>and this has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys

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