1
00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,479
Speaker 1: The John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

2
00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,480
Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

3
00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:21,840
Speaker 2: I love him.

4
00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,280
Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him. Let's hear that, boss,

5
00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:36,159
Speaker 3: the next big job Cook Duffy break find out there

6
00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,000
Speaker 3: are a couple of absolutely self involved.

7
00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,120
Speaker 1: You are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

8
00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,280
Speaker 4: Oh, let's fucking go back to swearing. Here in the

9
00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,320
Speaker 4: United States of America. It is Monday, June twenty fourth.

10
00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,120
Speaker 4: The year is twenty twenty fourth, Episode four hundred and

11
00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,600
Speaker 4: ninety five of the Anakin Florian Podcast, starring three time

12
00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,160
Speaker 4: UFC title challenger Kenny Florian repping his hometown New England

13
00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,360
Speaker 4: Patriots today. It's good to see you, my friend. How

14
00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:09,759
Speaker 4: are we doing?

15
00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,319
Speaker 3: I'm doing well? Man, Yo, Saudi We Audi? How you doing?

16
00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,559
Speaker 3: How is that flight?

17
00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,360
Speaker 4: It was a long one fourteen twenty five from Doha,

18
00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,960
Speaker 4: Quitar to Seattle, Washington, and we came straight to Las Vegas.

19
00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,279
Speaker 4: We are here in the penthouse at the Virgin Hotel.

20
00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,839
Speaker 4: Big Ron Pellegrino, Big Ron Bets is gonna come say hello.

21
00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,920
Speaker 4: Do you find people here? In a minute? But I

22
00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,600
Speaker 4: missed my son's sixth birthday yesterday. I came straight here

23
00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:41,160
Speaker 4: here's big Run, Here's big run. Yeah, they can hear you.

24
00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,279
Speaker 2: Listen, I know that two time division.

25
00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,920
Speaker 4: That's right, Yes, yeah, DC, good, Thank you buddy.

26
00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,120
Speaker 3: DC.

27
00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,400
Speaker 4: Gonna be with us here at the at the Virgin.

28
00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,720
Speaker 4: And yes, we are wearing the Frank Edgar Iron Army

29
00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,960
Speaker 4: T shirt as Frankie will go into the UFC Hall

30
00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,400
Speaker 4: of Fame this Thursday, and that is part of the

31
00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,800
Speaker 4: impetus for me missing my son's sixth birthday. Sorry, Houston Hunter,

32
00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,400
Speaker 4: whatever your name is, but I came straight here because

33
00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,079
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame is a huge initiative and it's

34
00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,519
Speaker 4: coming up Thursday. It's International Fight Week twenty twenty four,

35
00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,760
Speaker 4: So we're here at the Penhouse. All things considered, I'm

36
00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,880
Speaker 4: feeling pretty good. It was a festive show in Saudi,

37
00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,720
Speaker 4: I thought visually as I watched some of it back,

38
00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,519
Speaker 4: it looked great. So we're going to get into all

39
00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,840
Speaker 4: of that. Ken Flow, though, is coming to Las Vegas

40
00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,160
Speaker 4: this weekend. If I'm not mistaken. We have an appearance

41
00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,760
Speaker 4: on Friday with Quervo at Tomm's Watch Bar at New York,

42
00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,239
Speaker 4: New York. So if you are making the track to

43
00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,880
Speaker 4: Las Vegas, please come say hello to us. And maybe Kenny,

44
00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,840
Speaker 4: you'll actually put somebody into your naked shoke if that's

45
00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,480
Speaker 4: your fancy as well. But a lot to get to today,

46
00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,240
Speaker 4: we'll recap UFC fight Ned Whitaker versus Ala Scarob. We

47
00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,480
Speaker 4: will talk to Ray Longo if Instagram is to believe

48
00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,480
Speaker 4: his team went four and zero over the weekend. We'll

49
00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,880
Speaker 4: see if he can remember any of his fighters' names

50
00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,160
Speaker 4: as he recounts what happened. But we've got a lot

51
00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,040
Speaker 4: to get to on Robert Whitaker's performance. We'll talk to

52
00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,280
Speaker 4: Ray about UFC three to zero three, and then coming

53
00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,800
Speaker 4: up midweek, all hands on deck, full preview with predictions

54
00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,560
Speaker 4: for UFC three oh three Padata versus pro Haska. By

55
00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,799
Speaker 4: the way, in terms of Alex Paata can flow real quick.

56
00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,640
Speaker 4: I was with Dan Helly over the weekend and he

57
00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,120
Speaker 4: was talking about you and living in Brazil and how

58
00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,520
Speaker 4: you speak Brazilian Portuguese, and he was wondering why on

59
00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,079
Speaker 4: the Anakin Florian podcast, he's one of our dedicated listeners,

60
00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,120
Speaker 4: why you don't roll the R and you say Alex

61
00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,160
Speaker 4: Pereira and let us all be clear, drop the fucking

62
00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,000
Speaker 4: h not now, but right now it's Alex paata you

63
00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,400
Speaker 4: roll the R or Alex pereira. But he was wondering

64
00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,280
Speaker 4: why you, as someone who speaks Brazilian Portuguese more often

65
00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,920
Speaker 4: than not, when you say paata you say pereira and

66
00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,040
Speaker 4: don't roll the R. Good question.

67
00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,360
Speaker 3: So I guess I could, right Alex peta, But I uh,

68
00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess I anglicize it, you know,

69
00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,960
Speaker 3: I sometimes it soun it's pretentious. We always talk. I

70
00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,880
Speaker 3: always joke about you know people, what's all? And you know,

71
00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,120
Speaker 3: right well, you know, just say it the way that

72
00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,240
Speaker 3: you know. So I anglicize a little bit. But you

73
00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,840
Speaker 3: could certainly do that, absolutely, Dan, I will do that

74
00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:58,760
Speaker 3: from here on out if.

75
00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,240
Speaker 4: Well know so well. So Cody wrote in the chat

76
00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,880
Speaker 4: that you don't like to flex on him like that,

77
00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,200
Speaker 4: and you are two modests. You're nothing if not a

78
00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,760
Speaker 4: beacon of humility. But no, it's having me think about

79
00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,520
Speaker 4: it a little bit, right because I don't know, I

80
00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,800
Speaker 4: just it comes naturally to me, like I found myself

81
00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,960
Speaker 4: this weekend being like shot a bullet, roll in the art.

82
00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,960
Speaker 4: It's dude, what are you doing? It's shar a bullet?

83
00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,360
Speaker 4: You know, you can't just roll the R on a

84
00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,400
Speaker 4: Russian name because you like the way it sounds. So

85
00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,039
Speaker 4: we're not trying to sound pretentious, but let us get

86
00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,880
Speaker 4: into uh, Robert Whittaker's brilliant ted lines is brought to

87
00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,400
Speaker 4: you by Quervo. Now's a good time to enjoy the

88
00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,960
Speaker 4: tequila that invented tequila. What else can you say about

89
00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,760
Speaker 4: Robert Whittaker? Can flow those salivating at that minus one

90
00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,280
Speaker 4: thirty bedding line, money line next to his name, cash

91
00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,479
Speaker 4: those tickets. He gets et Granmala Scarov out of there

92
00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,800
Speaker 4: with a knockout of one forty nine of round one,

93
00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,440
Speaker 4: and my gosh, I mean shades of the matrix a

94
00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,120
Speaker 4: little bit, it seemed like the sports slowed down for

95
00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,240
Speaker 4: Robert Whitaker. A beautiful uppercut to punctuate Kenny and uh,

96
00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,720
Speaker 4: just a tremendous win in a career full of them

97
00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,280
Speaker 4: for one of the more beloved guys on the roster.

98
00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,440
Speaker 3: That's boy, he's wicked smart. Yeah, I mean it's the faints.

99
00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,800
Speaker 3: You have to look similar to tennis, the winning shot,

100
00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,800
Speaker 3: that last shot isn't necessarily the winning shot for me.

101
00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,640
Speaker 3: The winning move was the fates. He threw some feints

102
00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,320
Speaker 3: the way of Alice scare off. Alice Scaoff was throwing

103
00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,080
Speaker 3: himself off face, kind of leaning back, showing that he

104
00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,800
Speaker 3: wanted to throw that left kick, and Robert Whittaker, being

105
00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,000
Speaker 3: the intelligent guy that he is, he goes, okay, check,

106
00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,640
Speaker 3: let me make sure that's gonna be the response. Did

107
00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,680
Speaker 3: it one more time, sold it, and it's like, okay,

108
00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,440
Speaker 3: now I know exactly what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna

109
00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,280
Speaker 3: hit you with the right hand. It was the right

110
00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,440
Speaker 3: hand that started, so the feints that started it allowed

111
00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,719
Speaker 3: the right hand to land, and then it was the

112
00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,320
Speaker 3: kill shot of the uppercut that ended up putting Alice

113
00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,200
Speaker 3: Scareff out or almost out and winning the fight for him.

114
00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,240
Speaker 3: Just beautiful stuff from Robert Whittaker. This is why you

115
00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,839
Speaker 3: can't bet against experience. Robert Whittaker has been there and

116
00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,279
Speaker 3: done that in some really big fights. Still has made mistakes,

117
00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,280
Speaker 3: but one thing you can be sure of, Whittaker is

118
00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,560
Speaker 3: going to learn from those mistakes and be better for it.

119
00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,720
Speaker 3: That's exactly what we've been seeing since that's set back

120
00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,359
Speaker 3: against Trickistuplass, and he's getting better. Man, He's getting better,

121
00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,920
Speaker 3: and watch out for anybody that has to face him

122
00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,440
Speaker 3: in the future.

123
00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,400
Speaker 4: There's so much value for Team Whittaker that can be

124
00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,320
Speaker 4: extracted from this win. I wanted to ask you about

125
00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,080
Speaker 4: the change of opponent. He was to face Kamza Chimayev

126
00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,400
Speaker 4: as a plus two hundred or so betting underdog, and

127
00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,080
Speaker 4: then he draws ik Granmala Scarev, and Whittaker in our

128
00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,800
Speaker 4: fighter meeting thought that this might actually be a harder fight.

129
00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,159
Speaker 4: And who knows how that Chimaya have Whittaker fight would

130
00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,359
Speaker 4: have gone or would go in the future, right, But

131
00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,640
Speaker 4: to have dealt with that circumstance as Robert Whittaker did

132
00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,520
Speaker 4: and then to produce this result, I just think that's

133
00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,520
Speaker 4: a big part of the value for him moving forward.

134
00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:51,680
Speaker 3: Right.

135
00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,560
Speaker 4: It's one thing to say you're the anywhere, anytime, any

136
00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,520
Speaker 4: one type of guy, But to really do it and

137
00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,640
Speaker 4: sort of save the day, so to speak, and then

138
00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,760
Speaker 4: have that type of result, Uh, the dude's gotta be

139
00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,919
Speaker 4: flying high on confidence.

140
00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,599
Speaker 3: I would think absolutely. You know, I don't have the

141
00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,800
Speaker 3: details like you do about why Whittaker said that Alis

142
00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,640
Speaker 3: Scaoff may be the more difficult fight, But for me,

143
00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,480
Speaker 3: if I'm looking at it, I could agree with that

144
00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,720
Speaker 3: based on the fact that when you don't know what

145
00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,280
Speaker 3: to expect. That is the more difficult thing, when you

146
00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,559
Speaker 3: don't know exactly what you're dealing with. That is where

147
00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,280
Speaker 3: it can be tricky. Because there wasn't a whole lot

148
00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,800
Speaker 3: of information on Aliecaoff, similar to when Chimayav came into

149
00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,920
Speaker 3: the UFC. There wasn't a whole lot on him. Those

150
00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,560
Speaker 3: first two fights. All we were seeing him was starching

151
00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,200
Speaker 3: guys left and right. It's like thirty seconds in the OCHT,

152
00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,080
Speaker 3: gone minute and a half in the act. God, how

153
00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,800
Speaker 3: good is he? Well, he is very good. And now

154
00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,560
Speaker 3: we have a lot more footage on Chimaya to prepare

155
00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,920
Speaker 3: for Right, you're looking at this. You know what to

156
00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,560
Speaker 3: expect Alice Garoff, You just don't know exactly how good

157
00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,400
Speaker 3: he is. It turns out he wasn't as sharp of

158
00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,240
Speaker 3: a striker, perhaps not as dangerous of striker Chimayah. Whittaker

159
00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,600
Speaker 3: just too good there. But I agree with you, man,

160
00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,559
Speaker 3: and that's why a lot of people don't take fights.

161
00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,400
Speaker 3: It's like I have nothing in the game from this guy. Also,

162
00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,120
Speaker 3: I don't really know how good this guy is. It

163
00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,880
Speaker 3: didn't Matterker, it didn't matter. Whittaker is an absolute stud.

164
00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:15,920
Speaker 3: What a performance.

165
00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,640
Speaker 4: So here are some of the quotes from the fighter meeting.

166
00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,760
Speaker 4: First of all, in terms of the Palalo Costa win

167
00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,400
Speaker 4: for Robert Whittaker at UFC two ninety eight, he said

168
00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,640
Speaker 4: he was happy that the changes he made after the

169
00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,720
Speaker 4: drinks duplus C fight came into play in that fight.

170
00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,800
Speaker 4: In terms of the Alaskarov fight Kenny being harder than

171
00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,000
Speaker 4: the Chimaya fight, he did say, perhaps a harder matchup.

172
00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,440
Speaker 4: He had developed his offensive game plan for Chimaya. He

173
00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,000
Speaker 4: wasn't married to it, says, they're never married to it,

174
00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,040
Speaker 4: but just these are some of the quotes. Holistically, mentally,

175
00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,800
Speaker 4: Robert Whittaker just much better than he was when he

176
00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,160
Speaker 4: first struck interim goal back in twenty seventeen. Still feeling

177
00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,520
Speaker 4: all the nerves and all the vibes, enjoying the work

178
00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,120
Speaker 4: in training, perfecting my craft. Just loves the way of life,

179
00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:00,200
Speaker 4: the combat life, and just a tremendous, tremendous athlete and

180
00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,120
Speaker 4: really on that level of a Dustin Pourrier in terms

181
00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,920
Speaker 4: of just how beloved he is by the fan base.

182
00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,199
Speaker 4: Plenty more on what Robert Whitaker and Aminicanny, I just

183
00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,040
Speaker 4: want to ask you about Ikranmala Scarev, who had been

184
00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,640
Speaker 4: in Las Vegas, who had begun a weight cut and

185
00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,960
Speaker 4: then travels to Saudi Arabia and has another weightcut. I

186
00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,880
Speaker 4: still believe in I Granmala Scarev, and I'm not making

187
00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,120
Speaker 4: an excuse in terms of why his chin didn't hold up.

188
00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I think this result would have happened whether

189
00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,320
Speaker 4: or not he had cut weight twice, whether you know.

190
00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,480
Speaker 4: But gosh, man like, he asked a lot of himself

191
00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,400
Speaker 4: over these ten days, and I guess it's hard for

192
00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,880
Speaker 4: me to sort of ask you, like to what extent

193
00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,600
Speaker 4: you still believe in I Granmala scav is future middleweight contender.

194
00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,760
Speaker 4: But you know, how much are we leaning into this

195
00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,319
Speaker 4: result On the defeated fighters side.

196
00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,480
Speaker 3: Well, I still think we need more information on exactly

197
00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,440
Speaker 3: how good he is. We still didn't see a whole

198
00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,920
Speaker 3: lot from him in that loss against Robert Whitaker, his

199
00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,360
Speaker 3: only other loss, of course, coming to Jemaiah a little

200
00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,679
Speaker 3: bit ago. Has looked great in the UFC up unto

201
00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,240
Speaker 3: that point, and there's no shame in losing to a

202
00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,040
Speaker 3: guy like Robert Whittaker, losing to a guy with that

203
00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,400
Speaker 3: set of skills, with that amount of experience being a

204
00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,240
Speaker 3: former champion. You know, there's no shame in that at all.

205
00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,880
Speaker 3: I think similar to how Whitaker came back a couple

206
00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,560
Speaker 3: of fights ago from Trickistupula. See, I think we'll see

207
00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,840
Speaker 3: a much better Alice Scaoff so long as he's looking

208
00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,120
Speaker 3: at his mistakes, he's not making excuses, and he goes,

209
00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,520
Speaker 3: I need to get better technically, that, at the end

210
00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,040
Speaker 3: of the day, is what you got to do. Combat

211
00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,280
Speaker 3: fighting is a truth teller. You have to look for

212
00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,360
Speaker 3: those beautiful truths, practice it and get better. And I

213
00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,880
Speaker 3: think we'll see a better Alice Scaoff because of it.

214
00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, and to have that level of experience to

215
00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,440
Speaker 3: fight someone like Whittaker and your what your third fight

216
00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,200
Speaker 3: in the UFC, You're going to learn some things, you know.

217
00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,360
Speaker 3: I was certainly thrown into the fire very early in

218
00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,120
Speaker 3: my UFC career. It forces you to get better, and

219
00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,840
Speaker 3: I think that's what's gonna happen for Ickram Mousecaoff.

220
00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,679
Speaker 4: So why was the betting line so short on Robert Whitaker.

221
00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,280
Speaker 4: I know you and I sort of wondered that privately,

222
00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,440
Speaker 4: and I think maybe we came to a couple of

223
00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,600
Speaker 4: conclusions certainly, alas Scarov's body of work in the UFC

224
00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,920
Speaker 4: Wall short was very good, right, But part of it

225
00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:16,000
Speaker 4: also was Robert Whittaker's potential susceptibility to getting knocked out

226
00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,160
Speaker 4: because of maybe the Drenkist duplesus C result, which wasn't

227
00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,280
Speaker 4: all that long ago, right, But I can't think of

228
00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,720
Speaker 4: any other reason, with total respect to Alascarov and his team.

229
00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,280
Speaker 4: Robert Whitaker was the one who had been in Saudi

230
00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,160
Speaker 4: Arabia right in a training camp for that date. Why

231
00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,760
Speaker 4: is he minus one thirty against this guy Kenny and

232
00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,000
Speaker 4: not minus two to sixty.

233
00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,600
Speaker 3: I'm serious, Yeah, No, I think that people got really

234
00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,520
Speaker 3: excited about Alis Skaroff just starching guys really easily, and

235
00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,000
Speaker 3: of course Chimaya of saying that that was the most

236
00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,520
Speaker 3: difficult fight of his career. All those things sounded really

237
00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,000
Speaker 3: good and it looked like he wasn't challenged in the UFC,

238
00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,320
Speaker 3: So I think having that hot start is probably the

239
00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,760
Speaker 3: reason for that. And of course, you know, we didn't

240
00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,280
Speaker 3: really even get a chance to see his high level wrestling,

241
00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,000
Speaker 3: and people are like, no, no, no, this guy can

242
00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,320
Speaker 3: wrestle at a high level as well. So then you

243
00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,760
Speaker 3: put those things together, the quick knockouts, the wrestling ability,

244
00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000
Speaker 3: the fact that he's you know, from Dagastan and the

245
00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,120
Speaker 3: history of all the great wrestlers over there, and they go, well,

246
00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,080
Speaker 3: I think this fight is a lot closer than people think,

247
00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:19,040
Speaker 3: but it was not.

248
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,319
Speaker 4: It's gonna be tricky from a matchmaking standpoint for Ikramala

249
00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,000
Speaker 4: Scaro because he was unranked coming in and here's a

250
00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,960
Speaker 4: guy who has had canceled fights against Paolo Costa in

251
00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,600
Speaker 4: the rankings, Nas Sordini, Mavov in the top four. Right,

252
00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,920
Speaker 4: So now for one of those bigger names or ranked

253
00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,760
Speaker 4: guys to give an unranked, dangerous Ikramala Scarov a fight,

254
00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,480
Speaker 4: it's a tricky proposition, right, maybe one of those guys

255
00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,119
Speaker 4: in the bottom half of that, you know, top fifteen,

256
00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,880
Speaker 4: Jack Hermanson, Roman to leeds A kyo boholyyo, what a

257
00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,400
Speaker 4: fucking fun name to say that, as michel peda, right,

258
00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,040
Speaker 4: Anthony Fluffy Hernandez, you know, you could do worse than

259
00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,520
Speaker 4: a main event with Anthony Fluffy Hernandez and I Gramalis

260
00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,200
Speaker 4: scare off. And that was a fight that was actually

261
00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,240
Speaker 4: put together prior. But it's about Robert Whitaker can flow

262
00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,120
Speaker 4: and as we spin it forward. In this middleweight division,

263
00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,000
Speaker 4: you'll have Drenkis Du plus C in defense of his

264
00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,440
Speaker 4: title against Israel Atasanya in Perth, Western Australia. God helped

265
00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,959
Speaker 4: me meddle tube wheels up. I don't want to think

266
00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,640
Speaker 4: about that right now, but Robert Whittaker certainly said he

267
00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,920
Speaker 4: would weigh in as the backup. He has said repeatedly

268
00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,160
Speaker 4: that he owes Perth a fight. Twice he has been

269
00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,960
Speaker 4: scheduled to fight there, and not because of anything he's

270
00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,600
Speaker 4: done right. Other fighters have fallen off. But Sean Strickland

271
00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,640
Speaker 4: factors prominently in this equation, and Sean Strickland's the number

272
00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,920
Speaker 4: one contender. Robert Whitaker's ranked number three in the world,

273
00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,280
Speaker 4: and as far as I'm concerned, they have both earned

274
00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,160
Speaker 4: a title fight Strickland to be sure, I'm not going

275
00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,359
Speaker 4: to go down that path again. So it does seem

276
00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,959
Speaker 4: like a co main event and a true eliminator between

277
00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,840
Speaker 4: Sewan Strickland and Robert Whittaker right underneath Attasanya and Du

278
00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,040
Speaker 4: plus C would just be unbelievable, and you'd have this

279
00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,040
Speaker 4: mini middleweight tournament. But if I'm Sean Strickland and his

280
00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,800
Speaker 4: management team I'm not doing that.

281
00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean, gosh, John, you're always trying to

282
00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,560
Speaker 3: bring these questions. You can say no, come, oh my gosh,

283
00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,120
Speaker 3: well listen, that would be an insane fight, dude. I mean,

284
00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,280
Speaker 3: that's how you stack a card. However, I think from

285
00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,199
Speaker 3: a promotional standpoint, the UFC likes the fact that they

286
00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:23,000
Speaker 3: have two amazing options here, and if I'm being honest,

287
00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,360
Speaker 3: I think Sean Strickland is in the driver's seat right

288
00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:30,360
Speaker 3: now because if Dricis wins, Strickland's still a factor of

289
00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,520
Speaker 3: getting that shot right based on the rematch in their

290
00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,520
Speaker 3: close fight, but Wittaker is as well. Now, if at

291
00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,800
Speaker 3: Asania wins based on the history of Attisania and Whittaker,

292
00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,080
Speaker 3: Whittaker does not get that rematch, it's gonna be Sean Strickland.

293
00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,240
Speaker 3: So Strickland, right, wins. I guess the odds of getting

294
00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,960
Speaker 3: that next shot as of right now? Do you make

295
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,280
Speaker 3: that fight happen? Man, it's an amazing fight. Look from

296
00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,200
Speaker 3: a promotional standpoint, I'm not sure that makes a lot

297
00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,400
Speaker 3: of sense, because you know, you almost don't want to

298
00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,160
Speaker 3: take out one of those right options, right, But man,

299
00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,320
Speaker 3: want to fight. You got me thinking there Johnny No.

300
00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,640
Speaker 4: It'd be incredible, and Strickland and Robert Whittaker both make

301
00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,080
Speaker 4: a lot of money, and perhaps Robert Whittaker even was

302
00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,600
Speaker 4: able to make more money because he accepted this said

303
00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,000
Speaker 4: Grandmala Scarov fight. But just what a great way to

304
00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,760
Speaker 4: close the UFC's first show in Saudi Arabia. As most

305
00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,600
Speaker 4: of you know, it was a little bit of a

306
00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,520
Speaker 4: sort of a deliberate start with the prelims, and there

307
00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,040
Speaker 4: weren't a lot of finishes, and everything just came on

308
00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,000
Speaker 4: so strong, the crowd, the live event, the athletes. It

309
00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,080
Speaker 4: was a crazy scene by the end of the main card.

310
00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,560
Speaker 4: So congratulations to Robert Whittaker, maybe the guy who now

311
00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,720
Speaker 4: deserves to be known as your favorite fighter's favorite fighter.

312
00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,600
Speaker 4: All right, heavyweight co main event, Kenflow, This was interesting,

313
00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,880
Speaker 4: My goodness, Alexander Volkov over Sergey Pavlovitch by unanimous decision.

314
00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,000
Speaker 4: But gosh, it's almost more about what happened outside of competition.

315
00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,120
Speaker 4: Our fighter meetings were absolutely fascinating. Now, these guys were

316
00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,480
Speaker 4: never friends per se, but they were acquaintances. They trained

317
00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,760
Speaker 4: together extensively. Depending on whom you ask, over three years

318
00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,720
Speaker 4: if you ask Volkov, or one year if you asked

319
00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,320
Speaker 4: Pavlovich and they still haven't now buried the hatchet. If

320
00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,480
Speaker 4: you saw this, they got into it at the ceremonial way.

321
00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,400
Speaker 4: And I kind of take Volkov at his word here,

322
00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,840
Speaker 4: like I truly believe that he didn't want to accept

323
00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,720
Speaker 4: this fight. He was supposed to fight Jai Yielta now

324
00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,520
Speaker 4: made it June first, and then they asked him to

325
00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,520
Speaker 4: take this fight against a guy who he trained with

326
00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,800
Speaker 4: for years, Kenny. He said he was really the kingpin

327
00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,560
Speaker 4: of Pavlovitch's preparation for Derek Lewis. He was omnipresent in

328
00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,760
Speaker 4: that camp, giving him all sorts of advice. So it

329
00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,080
Speaker 4: appeared to me, and maybe there was a little bit

330
00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,160
Speaker 4: of poker face going on from Pavlovitch, but it appeared

331
00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,640
Speaker 4: to me that Volkov really had a hard time with this,

332
00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,080
Speaker 4: but accepted the challenge and performed really well.

333
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,840
Speaker 3: It's a tricky situation to be in, man. I'm so glad,

334
00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,600
Speaker 3: you know, I experienced a little that coming out The

335
00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,920
Speaker 3: Ultimate Fighter fighting alex Carrolexis and things like that. But yeah,

336
00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,120
Speaker 3: it's not a great situation to have to fight an

337
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,880
Speaker 3: acquaintance fight of Fred. You know, these are difficult things.

338
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,440
Speaker 3: And you know, for Volkov, though, I'm sure it served

339
00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,960
Speaker 3: him well. I mean, knowing that style, knowing how dangerous

340
00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,760
Speaker 3: Pavlovitch is, you could tell as soon as that fight started,

341
00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,840
Speaker 3: he just seemed like he was at home. Man. He

342
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,640
Speaker 3: seemed like he was extremely comfortable. And once that jab

343
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,920
Speaker 3: was pumping in the manner that it was when his

344
00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,399
Speaker 3: feet were moving that he just looked like he was

345
00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,080
Speaker 3: an Oh my god, this is this is not going

346
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,080
Speaker 3: to go the way of Palovitch. If it didn't go,

347
00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,720
Speaker 3: if Pavivich wasn't landing hard shots in round one, it

348
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,800
Speaker 3: wasn't going to happen in rounds two to degree. And

349
00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,360
Speaker 3: I thought that Volkov just fought a beautiful fight. You

350
00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,439
Speaker 3: talked about it before before we made our picks about

351
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,919
Speaker 3: how this guy has been dedicated to the game. You know,

352
00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,000
Speaker 3: I talked about how he really has made vast improvements

353
00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,359
Speaker 3: with his grappling. Well, he's getting more technical and he's

354
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,680
Speaker 3: getting smarter as a striker as well. And watch out

355
00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,600
Speaker 3: for this guy. Nobody wants to face a guy that tall. Now,

356
00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,320
Speaker 3: if you have skills, you have power, how are you

357
00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 3: a technique and you're getting better as a fighter, And

358
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,880
Speaker 3: now you have another element of surprise with your ground game.

359
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,040
Speaker 3: Watch out. Volkov is a damn problem and he made

360
00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,840
Speaker 3: Pavlovich look really very ordinary and very average, which not

361
00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,960
Speaker 3: a lot of people can do besides Aspital.

362
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really happy for Volkov. One of my favorite

363
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,920
Speaker 4: fighters on the roster, and I certainly wouldn't have said

364
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,600
Speaker 4: that a few years ago. But when I think about

365
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,680
Speaker 4: him having a compromised training camp with no wrestling training

366
00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,320
Speaker 4: partners for the Curtis Blades fight and still accepting it,

367
00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,000
Speaker 4: he has been the consummate company man, and now he

368
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,080
Speaker 4: gets through this unique challenge against a friend, slash acquaintance

369
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,880
Speaker 4: or whatever you want to call him. He's won four

370
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 4: consecutive fights. The division is sort of in a funky spot,

371
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,360
Speaker 4: but you can certainly do worse than have an Alexander

372
00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,000
Speaker 4: Volkov in a championship setting. It's hard to string together

373
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,679
Speaker 4: four straight wins in the heavyweight division. There was a

374
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,480
Speaker 4: facial fracture for Sergey Pavlovitch. I hope I'm not speaking

375
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,000
Speaker 4: out a turn, but he did suffer some sort of

376
00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:02,000
Speaker 4: facial fracture there. Now, in terms of Alexander Volkov's knowledge

377
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,680
Speaker 4: of the danger right, like we had heard rumblings that,

378
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 4: you know, Pavlovich's power was really heard from in their

379
00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,200
Speaker 4: training sessions. And one of the points that you made

380
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 4: off the top of our analysis of this fight was

381
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 4: that you could just tell that he was acutely aware

382
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,639
Speaker 4: of the consequences of getting hit by a strike from

383
00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,360
Speaker 4: Pavlovitch and proceeded accordingly. And obviously all of those repetitions

384
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,400
Speaker 4: and training paid dividends for Volkov, and once this match

385
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 4: happened under the lights.

386
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,400
Speaker 3: Definitely, it's one thing to know that, it's another thing

387
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 3: to execute it in the manner that Volkov was able

388
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 3: to do that. And I don't know, man, he just

389
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 3: looked really masterful out there, really technical, really composed, and

390
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,120
Speaker 3: he just continues to impress man. And as you said,

391
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 3: for fight, win streak is not easy to do in

392
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 3: the UFC, let alone in the heavyweight division with all

393
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 3: the chaos and all the power and all the different

394
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,400
Speaker 3: styles in that division. So he really is positioning, positioning

395
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 3: himself really well to maybe get a shot at the bell,

396
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 3: maybe not the end of the year, but maybe early

397
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 3: next year. So it's exciting for him.

398
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 4: He's got two sons. I believe he's moved his whole

399
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 4: family to Las Vegas, first fighter in UFC history to

400
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 4: have his hair combed between rounds, well looking at bills,

401
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 4: to Alexander Volkov and really just a thoughtful fighter meeting.

402
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 4: And hopefully our listeners and viewers don't think I'm going

403
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 4: too long on this, but Kenny even just invoking June

404
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 4: twenty second Nineteeneen forty one, when Germany invaded the Soviet

405
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 4: Union and how fighting on that date was not lost

406
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 4: on him. I just was a borderline blown away by

407
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 4: our fighter meeting from Alexander Volkov. And I really like

408
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 4: Sergey Pavlovitch as well. He did the whole training camp

409
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 4: in Moscow, and you know, I feel like maybe he

410
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 4: had a harder time with this matchup than he was

411
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 4: letting on. I don't know if you saw him push

412
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 4: Alexander Volkov after the fact, you know, but certainly I

413
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 4: feel like if one guy was willing to sort of

414
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 4: move on and embrace after the fact, it was going

415
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,159
Speaker 4: to be Volkov and Pavlovitch wasn't having it.

416
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, getting injured in that manner I think

417
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 3: didn't help. And you know, he's just pissed. You know

418
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 3: this that was a very big fight. There's still a

419
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: lot of opportunity in that UFC heavyweight division, and that

420
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 3: was a setback for him.

421
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 4: Man, all right, So John Jones and Stepe Miacich are

422
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 4: they gonna fight? Maybe it'll be November Madison Square Garden,

423
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 4: Maybe it'll be December. Tom Aspinall and Curtis Blades are

424
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 4: gonna settle some interim heavyweight championship business. July twenty seven,

425
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 4: seedle Gan is the number two rank contender. Jaielton Almada

426
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 4: seems to be pining for a fight with him. Certainly,

427
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 4: Sergey Pavlovitch now is going to take a step back.

428
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 4: Volkov moves into the top three. You could do Gon

429
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 4: and Pavlovitch potentially in Paris. But you know, I mean,

430
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 4: Volkov has always been the company man. Seedle Gan has

431
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 4: gotten a lot of champ championship opportunities. I do wonder

432
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 4: if anybody on the Volkov side would be advising him

433
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 4: to buy his time and wait for a championship opportunity.

434
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 4: I don't know, but Volkov is a man who deserves

435
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 4: to be congratulated. He's done everything the right way. He's

436
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 4: like thirty eight and fucking ten right. And while he's

437
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 4: won major championships, I think eletor Heavyweight Grand Prix and

438
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 4: things like that. It's the UFC goal he's after and

439
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 4: he's not too far from it. All right, Let us

440
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 4: get to Kelvin Gasolim and Drod, Daniel Rodriguez and again

441
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 4: an opportunity for me to peel back the curtain when

442
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 4: it comes to the fighter meetings. We sit down with

443
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 4: d Rod on Thursday, when he has essentially just ingested

444
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 4: the news as he's one hundred and seventy eight pounds

445
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: kenny right after a thirteen week training camp, some of

446
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 4: which was spent in Thailand, gets the news that Kelvin

447
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 4: Gasolim is probably not even going to be able to

448
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 4: make one to eighty so the fight's going to be

449
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 4: at one hundred and eighty five pounds. And we later

450
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 4: find out after the fact that Daniel Rodriguez lost, but

451
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 4: he won because maybe he got a new contract and promotionally,

452
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 4: you know, he stepped up for them. But we sat

453
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 4: down with him in a moment where no new contract,

454
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 4: no new money, wasn't necessarily getting thirty percent of Kelvin

455
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 4: Gastolim's purse or anything like that, and it changed the

456
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 4: core of the matchup that he eventually lost. So it's

457
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 4: tough man like d Rod, father of five in Saudi Arabia, Right,

458
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 4: you're gonna take the fight. But you know, I really

459
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 4: felt for d Rod and uh and it ends up

460
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 4: being a red stripe on the Wikipedia page. Nonetheless, any

461
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 4: thoughts on everything that transpire between those two, that's a

462
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 4: tough one.

463
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: You know, I'm friends with Kelvin. Kelvin is such a

464
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: nice guy man, and you know, I know he felt

465
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 3: really bad about that. However, if I'm putting myself into

466
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 3: d Rods shoes, I am pissed about that. I am

467
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 3: extremely pissed because you expect more from a guy like

468
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 3: Kelvin Gastolm, who has been in the UFC for a

469
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: long time now, he's missed weight before.

470
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 4: This isn't like a new thing that this was a

471
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 4: missing weight. With Kelvin Gastolim's segment on his YouTube channel,

472
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 4: I believe.

473
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, that's a great thing. And yeah, and

474
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 3: it as far as we know, this has nothing to

475
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 3: do with some kind of no injury or whatever. To me,

476
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: it comes off as you know, laziness unfortunately, and and

477
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 3: I know Kelvin can do better, and this is not

478
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 3: the way to impress the the UFC, brass, This is

479
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 3: not the way to impress the other people in your division.

480
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: And when you're kind of nearing the end of your career,

481
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: these are misses that you cannot falter on, and it's

482
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: just unfortunate. It's unfortunate for everybody. But you know, for

483
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 3: d Rod, it's like he's gonna he's gonna say, Okay,

484
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this fight him all the way here.

485
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: I prepared for this, and now he's got an L,

486
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: a permanent L on his record because you know, he

487
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: prepared and his opponent did, and it's really tough. I

488
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: hope that Kelvin is able to get things back in order,

489
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: and he better hope that the UFC kind of doesn't

490
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 3: take it out on him and say, you know what,

491
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: we're good. We got plenty of all the wealth to

492
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 3: weights that are willing to make the weight and you know,

493
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 3: hopefully this doesn't come back to bite him, because I

494
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 3: do like Kelvin. I think he's an exciting fighter, and

495
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: you know, obviously has a history in the UFC. He's

496
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: a name, and yeah, this was this was not a

497
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: great result.

498
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a tricky thing, right. I'm not necessarily

499
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: paid to be critical or analytical per se by the UFC,

500
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 4: and I hope I can preserve my friendship with Kelvin

501
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 4: Gastolim after the Anakin Florian podcast today, But I would

502
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: encourage people to see what Michael Bisping and Michael Kisa

503
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: had to say about this if you don't want to

504
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 4: hear what I have to say about it, because this

505
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 4: is a guy who weighed in for a Tyrone Woodley

506
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 4: fight in twenty fifteen at like one hundred and eighty pounds,

507
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 4: and even though he intimated that there were some training

508
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 4: camp obstacles and staff infection, he was in Saudi Arabia

509
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: way before d Rod. He was there for two weeks.

510
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 4: And I don't even care to talk about the fight itself, really,

511
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 4: I just I don't know. It's just left a really

512
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: bad taste in my mouth. And I think thankfully UFC

513
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 4: CEO Dana White came out after the fact and sort

514
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: of said how disappointed he was. I just don't know

515
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 4: what you do with Kelvin Gaslam at this point in time.

516
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 4: I don't know that you give him a welterweight contract, right,

517
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: and certainly he had the nasty mouth injury. And I

518
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 4: do take him at his work when it comes to

519
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 4: the staff, but it's like, I don't know, man, I

520
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 4: just felt so badly for d Rod, And even though

521
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 4: d Rod maybe has some things that he can hang

522
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: his hat on in terms of maybe a new contract

523
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 4: and you know, some deeper appreciation from the UFC bro right,

524
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 4: like Kenny Florian doesn't fuck around with red stripes on

525
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 4: his Wikipedia page, right, Like this is an MMA loss,

526
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 4: Like you ain't trying to have six, seven, ten of those?

527
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it means a lot, right, I mean these

528
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: are opportunities lost, potentially bigger fights, fight night main events,

529
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: what have you. You know, And beating a guy like

530
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: Kelvin Gaslim is a big deal. It's still a big deal,

531
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: and I'm sure d Rod was dead set on doing

532
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 3: it at doing it at one hundred and seventy pounds,

533
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: that's what we prepared for, That's what he worked his

534
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: ass off for.

535
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 4: And I didn't know that about Kelvin GASLM.

536
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: In regards to the staff infection, that can complicate things

537
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: both because you can't train the way you used to

538
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: and also because of you know, antibiotic you can retain

539
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: water and things like that.

540
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: But still maybe reach out to the UFC at that

541
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: point in time, right if you can. The UFC largely

542
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: is anti catchweight, right, yeah, but say something ahead of

543
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: the time I get wrong, right right, I'm with you,

544
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 4: Like d rod had, I think lost two in a row,

545
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 4: and now he's lost three in a row, and now

546
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I'm not suggesting he's staring and

547
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 4: a must win. I mean, I think we've seen guys

548
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: with five and six fight losing streaks in the UFC.

549
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I just felt like de Row

550
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: was in a really good place and did everything the

551
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: right way and just kind of got hose. But nonetheless,

552
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: Gaslon did enough to win. And even if you are

553
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 4: of the belief that Gastollam may be in this situation,

554
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 4: if you think of it as a weight miss should

555
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 4: be docked a point at the start of the fight,

556
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: he still would have won the fight on points. He

557
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 4: won thirty to twenty seven on two of the three

558
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: judges scorecards. But it'll be interesting to see how they

559
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: proceed with U with KG after that. All right, let

560
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 4: us get to the light heavyweights Bulcanus de Meir and

561
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: Johnny Walker. If we could, I know you and Brian

562
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: Petrie were decidedly split on this.

563
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: Dude.

564
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 4: How about vocal Newsamir, another guy who does everything seemingly

565
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 4: the right way, work ethic, leads the league and gets

566
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 4: Johnny Walker out of there rather viciously at two twenty

567
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 4: eight round one.

568
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not sure I've seen him look better.

569
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: I mean that was nasty. Ooh ooh oohs Demir, I mean,

570
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: my goodness, for he just looks sharp. He looks sharp.

571
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: It seemed like, you know, he wasn't trying to throw

572
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 3: a whole lot of volume, but when he was throwing,

573
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 3: he was landing, he was precise, he was surgical, and

574
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: he got a finish over a very dangerous guy in

575
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 3: Johnny Walker, a huge guy in Johnny Walker. Now, Johnny

576
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: Walker doesn't come into the fight game without his fault.

577
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: He gets sloppy, he sticks his chin up in the air,

578
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: his hands will go a little bit low. But he's

579
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: a big dude who can knock you out in a

580
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: variety of ways. You have to be careful, and Uzamir

581
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: just did everything perfectly, from his patience to his composure

582
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: to when he actually needed to put his foot on

583
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: the gas man. Nasty stuff. That last shot at the end, dude,

584
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: like where Walker's basically kind of out, you know, trying

585
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: to sit up. Yeah, and that last shot just putting

586
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: him stiff there on the stretcher. Just nasty, dude, nasty, nasty.

587
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 4: Just another really good guy who is so committed to

588
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: the ultimate goal. And I think sometimes pundits and fans

589
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: will sort of scoff when guys who are number nine

590
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: in the world talk about the light heavyweight championship. But

591
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: rest asshirt like volcan Uzdamir is not here to fuck around,

592
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: and that's a huge win for him. You know, It's

593
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 4: tough for Johnny Walker and a little bit tough for me. Right,

594
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 4: I call the fight and I say, you know, I

595
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: think the verb I us was like stretchered, right, like

596
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: volcan Uz Demir stretchers Johnny Walker. And an hour later

597
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 4: I find myself greeting Johnny Walker at the airport. You know,

598
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 4: I just don't know what to say. You know, I

599
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: think Johnny Walker was able to get out of there.

600
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: I think other fighters were gonna have, like Jared Gordon,

601
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: some really uh swollen hard flights, and we'll get to

602
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: him in a minute, but real quickly. In terms of

603
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: Volcanus Demir in this light heavyweight division, thankfully for Vulcan,

604
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: and we brought this up in our fighter meeting. You

605
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: have a champion in Alex Paeda who is going to

606
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: keep spinning it around. He's fighting Uri Prohaska here in

607
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: a few days and defending the belt here twice in

608
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: a span of three months. And I don't expect if

609
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: Podeda or pro Hoska wins for them to be idling

610
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: and not defending the belt. Maga met Ankliav of course

611
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: was with us in Saudi Arabia. There are other guys

612
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: Jamal Hill, Yombhovich, Alexander Rokitch and others who are ranked

613
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: above Vulcan Uzdamir. But I mean he he mentioned Yambohovich,

614
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: right like, how competitive do you think Vulcanus Damir is

615
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: against Yombohovich and the guys that are just below Alex

616
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: Paeda and Yuri right now?

617
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: I think it would be very competitive. I think that

618
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: Vulcan is a completely different fighter than what we've seen

619
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: him just a few years ago. We forget that, you know,

620
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: similar to alis Skaroff. He came into this game starching guys,

621
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: got a quick opportunity, pretty quick opportunity against Daniel Cormier

622
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: for the bell didn't go his way, and then kind

623
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: of had this kind of rollercoaster ride a little bit

624
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: up into the last few fights, where he's found a

625
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: little bit more consistency. His skill set is significantly better.

626
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: He's much more of a grappler than he was. There's

627
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: way more ways for him to win, and I think

628
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: he's got a great shot at beating a guy like

629
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: a Yad Behovich. You know Bohovich of course, extremely dangerous,

630
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: good everywhere as well, But this is a different ustermir

631
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: who's fighting very intelligently, very defensively sound, much more defensively

632
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: sound than he was in the past. And again he's

633
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: he's got the takedown game now he can do things

634
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: from that top position. He can get back to his feet,

635
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: so that might be the fight.

636
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: I like it. And my favorite part about him is

637
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: he punted on whatever hair replacement thing he was doing

638
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 4: back to the shave's.

639
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: Head, like, what are you doing here?

640
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: Vulcan take it from Dustin Poorier and me all business fellas,

641
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: shave your fucking heads. All right, you HAVEC three h

642
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 4: three is nearly upon us and there's some banging fights

643
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 4: happening here in Vegas. You can jump in on all

644
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: the action and DraftKings sports but the sports betting partner

645
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: of UFC, and so many of these matchups are just fascinating,

646
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: pretty close on paper as well. How about the comin

647
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: Evan Diego Lopez slightly favored against Brian t City or Tega.

648
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 4: It's one of several amazing fights. And speaking of amazing,

649
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: if you're new to DraftKings, check this out. New customers,

650
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: betes five bucks, get one hundred and fifty in bonus

651
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: bets instantly. All you need to do download the DraftKings

652
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: sportsbook Gap not now, but right now. Use code af pod.

653
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: That's code afpod for new customers to get one hundred

654
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: and fifty in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks,

655
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: get that big fight. Feel DraftKings. The crown is yours

656
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler or in West

657
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 4: Virginia visit one eight hundred gambler dot net. In New

658
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: York eight seven seven eight hope en wyre text hope

659
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: en why. In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling

660
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: called eight eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven

661
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: or visit CCPG dot org. Please play responsibly. I'll behap

662
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: a boothill casino when resort in Kansas. Twenty one plus

663
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: age varies by jurisdiction. Bonus bets expire one hundred and

664
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: sixty eight hours after issuance. Deposit and eligibility restrictions apply.

665
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: Set terms eligibility and responsible gaming resources at dkang dot co.

666
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: Slash mma. I can't read that any faster. Really, we're live,

667
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: so we can't speed it up. I had to read

668
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 4: it fast because the star of the program, Raymond Peter Longo,

669
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: now joins us.

670
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, where the hell are we?

671
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: I'm in the penthouse in Las Vegas, Ken flows in

672
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: a really ritzy community in Charlotte, North Carolina, where I

673
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: think once your famous football players live. Your shot looks terrible.

674
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: Where are you?

675
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: Don't that? I'm man? Let me try moving this? Sold long?

676
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: No?

677
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: Where are you? Where are you?

678
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm at the gym?

679
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, I thought that was your I thought that

680
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: was your aura.

681
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: Behid you hold on, let me see something. How's that better?

682
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: Hey?

683
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: There we go?

684
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's better.

685
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: That's better.

686
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ray long go minute every week on the Anak

687
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: and Florian podcast starring Raymond Peter Longo. Everybody loves Raymond.

688
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: Congratulations on a big weekend for the squad, brother.

689
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a great weekend. Man.

690
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 5: Everybody, uh, everybody won and everybody finished their fights.

691
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: The amys did great.

692
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

693
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, Little Tom Fitzsimmons, all stopages. Check the Ryan.

694
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: Bo who might forget and put him up? Put him up?

695
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: Who's number three?

696
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 4: Hey, can you do us a favor in the future,

697
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: Ray when the guys win fights before you come on

698
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: the show, can you fucking write their names down on you?

699
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: I did write them the whole lot. Second. Edward Jung.

700
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we had four guys check, Edwin, Tom, and

701
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 5: Ryan all did great.

702
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: You call him Edward Chung, it says Edwin Jong. There

703
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 4: Edward Edward Edwin Jung. I mean, show the man a

704
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: modicum of respect, right.

705
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: Basically in this place, like cool anybody whatever the funk

706
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 5: I want?

707
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: That's right, right, I mean you that's.

708
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 4: You know what I'm gonna do after the show. I'm

709
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 4: gonna follow Edwin Jung on Instagram and I'm gonna congratulate

710
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do in the chat, the late Ray

711
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 4: Longo joins us, I didn't say that, did I did

712
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 4: I say the late No? I didn't that.

713
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound good, Please don't.

714
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 4: I just got a lot. I said the great, the great.

715
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 4: Oh all right, he was saying, because you look down

716
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 4: with the light like you were in heaven.

717
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: All right.

718
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 5: Oh shoot, yeh man, this is getting complicated already. I

719
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 5: listened to what you guys were saying, though, But I

720
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 5: love these fights for the fact that what Kenny was saying,

721
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 5: guys that were on kind of a roller coaster ride,

722
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 5: they win, they lose, uh whittaka just a stud you know,

723
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 5: willing to go back in in two onths or I

724
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 5: just those are the guys you like, and those are

725
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 5: the guys I'm sure the UFC likes for for a reason.

726
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 5: But it's not easy to get those wins, like what

727
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 5: is getting after you know, you lost, you know because

728
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 5: even mentally you lose the title and you lose to

729
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: out of Sonya a bunch of times. But to hang

730
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 5: in there and to have a performance like that, I

731
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 5: think was was unbelievable.

732
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: And the same thing with Vulcan Man.

733
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, what a great fight against a guy who's you know,

734
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 5: he's either gonna knock you out with something crazy or

735
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 5: he just he's got he needs fundamentals, Kenny, You know

736
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 5: what I mean. He just doesn't seem to embrace anything

737
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 5: but craziness, you know what I mean, And it just

738
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 5: only lasts so long.

739
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: And I think that's what you're seeing.

740
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: But you know, uh Vulcan just you know, just the

741
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 5: way his hands well, I mean just picked them apart

742
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 5: very easily, make crazy what a so again a guy

743
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 5: that's been up and down, like you say, Kenny, I

744
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 5: think those are the guys that really impressed me because

745
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 5: I know what it's like. You go on a slide,

746
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: you lose a couple of fights, or it's a big

747
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 5: fight you lose, it's hard to mentally stay in that game.

748
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: And these two guys that night, that was my takeaway. Man.

749
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved every second of both of

750
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 2: those fights.

751
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: And Ray, yeah, I think you nailed it there, man.

752
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 3: And the big problem with if we can nerd out

753
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: on mm A a little bit here, it's the fundamentals

754
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: are boring and they're not sexy. People want give me, hey, coach,

755
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: give me that little hack, give me that cool let

756
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 3: me let me, you know, just hit the pads instead

757
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: of doing footwork for two hours by your side in

758
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: front of the mirror. Like, these are things that people don't.

759
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: You gotta fall in love with the boring shit that

760
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 3: nobody wants to do, because it also it takes longer

761
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: to be good at You can if you if I

762
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: add in a spinning back kick and you know, I

763
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: throw it in a fight, it looks like I'm getting

764
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: better all of a sudden, where when you're working the fundamentals,

765
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: it takes longer to get good at that, and to

766
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: see the results takes longer as well, and people just

767
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: don't want to put in that work. So I agree

768
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: with you. Whereas Uzda Mirr, you could see he is

769
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: putting in the fundamentals. He is working those foundational skills.

770
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: That's the stuff that you're gonna have forever, you know.

771
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: So anyways, I thought that was a great.

772
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: I absolutely love it.

773
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 5: And the other thing is too when you know you

774
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 5: could get a guy at the beginning, but then when

775
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 5: a guy gets he gets a couple of those knockouts,

776
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 5: then it's hard to go backwards and do the face

777
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 5: because you're used to that dynamic bullshit, and then the

778
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 5: other stuff seems just boring, like oh, I'll get away.

779
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: With this, I'll get away with that. It doesn't work

780
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: like that.

781
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 5: And I think he's a really perfect example of that.

782
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 5: Seems like a nice guy, always a bit wacky, but

783
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 5: he looks like he takes that into the octagon with

784
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 5: him and it's not about winning and losing, it's about

785
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 5: you know something else, man crazy. But and you could

786
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 5: see what how do you pronounce his list name?

787
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: Again?

788
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 5: I mean fundamentally, he always had it, but now that's

789
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. For him to be on that roller

790
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 5: coaster Ryan, to come back with a big win against

791
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 5: a very dangerous guy if.

792
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: You fight him the wrong way, I think, Yeah, I

793
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: think he deserves a big fight.

794
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 4: I agree. So it sounds like you were watching us

795
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 4: live on YouTube before you came on as that accurate.

796
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 4: I when were you in the back room? You said

797
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: you had heard Kenny talking about Robert Whitaker. Were you

798
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: just in the back Oh?

799
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: No, no, I came in on, odescin me. I didn't

800
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: come in on all right?

801
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 4: Well, no, no, I was just I thought you had

802
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 4: mentioned but I was just gonna tell him that you

803
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 4: can come up anytime you want from the top of

804
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 4: the show. You have an open invitation in terms of

805
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 4: what Kenny was saying in martial arts, right, Carla Esparza

806
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 4: got tuned up by Joanna Yunjai check in twenty fifteen, Right, yeah,

807
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 4: very big wrestling maintenance. Okay. In twenty nineteen, she begins

808
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: a five fight winning streak and then she beats Rose

809
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 4: Nama Units to become a two time UFC Starway Champion,

810
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: and all we seemingly talk about with her is wrestling maintenance, right,

811
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: And so you can maybe scoff at that second win

812
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 4: over Rose to win the title for a second time,

813
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 4: and maybe one day she goes into the UFC Hall

814
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 4: of Fame. She certainly should. Maybe it's not all that pretty,

815
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: but she's been willing for years and years and years

816
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 4: to do the stuff in training that nobody fucking wants

817
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 4: to do. You know. Yep, that's all right. By the way,

818
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: we were able to give Mick Maynard the Rey Longo

819
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 4: Minute T shirt? Did you see that?

820
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 5: And you know what I'm gonna say, Look, I apologize.

821
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 5: Somebody sent me the picture again, Mick. He did message

822
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: me on Instagram, but I dude, I'm really not looking.

823
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 5: I don't really get on it, and then by the

824
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 5: time I ac it, it disappeared. So I'd love to

825
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 5: see it again, Mick. But thank you very much. I

826
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 5: appreciate and thank thank you John carrying the shirt.

827
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: You're welcome and paying for it. You're welcome. Can you

828
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 4: do me a favor, though? Can you do me a

829
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: what's so.

830
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 5: Funny you haven't thrown the and pay?

831
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: That's fun enterprise paying for that?

832
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: You were I.

833
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 5: Thought we were a big operation, that one.

834
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 2: Corporation about.

835
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry about the delay on your quarterly payment. You

836
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: can blame DraftKings, non expeditious nature.

837
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 2: Or anybody I could talk to over there.

838
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: So do me a favor though, And I say this

839
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: with all sincerity. Sen mcmaynard a direct message and say

840
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 4: thanks for the support, right because he asked for that

841
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 4: T shirt, right, it was a request. And then maybe

842
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 4: just be like, dude, let's get pulling Nakuda in the UFC. No,

843
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: why is that stepping out of your lane?

844
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: No? No, I've been there ten times already.

845
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: You've messaged him privately or talked to him about it?

846
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 5: No, I've talked to him. I like to talk I

847
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 5: don't know. The messaging thing is horrible to me.

848
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: All right, Well, can I get involved? I mean, what

849
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 4: are we doing to take another fight? I mean, we're

850
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: not doing Dana White's Contender series, are we?

851
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I think that would be great.

852
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 5: I mean, there was a guy I think he wanted

853
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 5: him to fight that pull he didn't fight make that

854
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 5: on the Contender series.

855
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: A right, there's only one way to you gotta give

856
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: a guy. You gotta give a guy a.

857
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 5: Shot, John, I mean either way. I mean, he definitely

858
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 5: warrants a shot, whether you think he's boring or not boring.

859
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 5: He finished his last two out of three. I mean,

860
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 5: I don't know, Man, give him a give him a goal.

861
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 5: Is it three more fights? Is it one more fight?

862
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 5: You know, because now he has gotten finishes, So let's

863
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 5: take that off the table.

864
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem to be the thing. So I don't know.

865
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 5: I think he'd be a breath afraid share in that division.

866
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 5: Unless you want to see guys fight each other eighteen

867
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 5: times in a row, then we could do that.

868
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 4: No, and he's undefeated. I really, I really don't understand

869
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: what the disconnect is. And there have been less than

870
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: ten times in all my years with the UFC that

871
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 4: I have ever stepped out of my lane so to speak,

872
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 4: to approach a matchmaker about a fighter. I remember one

873
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: time I wore a Ben Askron T shirt to a

874
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: matchmaker meeting, and he remembers that. So we used to

875
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 4: have matchmaker meetings with Joe Silva and Sean Shelby before

876
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 4: the fights, and I wore a funky Ben Askrian yellow

877
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 4: T shirt to the fighter meeting or the matchmaker meeting

878
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 4: because I wanted Joe to sign Ben. And Joe Silva,

879
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: who is my dear friend to this day, was like,

880
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 4: what the fuck are you doing wearing a Ben Asterron

881
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: T shirt? Hotel Like change your shirt, you little fuck,

882
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: all right, and I'm like, you're smaller than me.

883
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 5: I think that's a guy you could take if you

884
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 5: want those charity boxing fights.

885
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: That's the guy we're putting in there with you.

886
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: Well, he has an octagon in his basement and actually spars,

887
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: but I think from a cardiovascular and grappling i'd love

888
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 4: to see it. Supposedly he tunes up MMA manager Brian Butler,

889
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: but I don't have that on good authority.

890
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: All right.

891
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: I've got a couple other things that I want to

892
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 4: get into on this UFC fight night, some of which

893
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: we have touched on, some of which we have not.

894
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you have anything for us

895
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 4: on the heavyweights and Alexander Volkov and Sergey Pavlovich and

896
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: then getting into it after the fight and a really

897
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: good performance for Volkov, maybe Gasolom and d Rod with

898
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 4: the weight stuff. Anything on those two main card situations

899
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: before we get to the freelance.

900
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 5: Sergey put him back into grammar school for fight. I Q,

901
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 5: you got one way, you winning the fight and with

902
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 5: a minute left, he's trying to take the guy down.

903
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: Like now he's now.

904
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 5: He's a jiu jitsu expert, Like can he explain that

905
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 5: to me?

906
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: He got one way.

907
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: At that point and it wasn't taking the guy down. No,

908
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

909
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 3: So that was a headscratcher.

910
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 5: He's got to go back to fight school one oh

911
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 5: one and really get like some IQ points raised there.

912
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, Gastolom, another guy would the roller

913
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 5: coaster type thing, you know, uh Korea, But the problem

914
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 5: is you got to make the weight. So that's just

915
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: such a bad look for a guy that's been around

916
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 5: that long. I don't know, but he did. You know,

917
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 5: he did what he was supposed to do, but it

918
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 5: gets overshadowed by his, you know, inconsistency to make the weight.

919
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 4: Shara Bullet Magametov over Antony Antonio Trocoli. The finish comes

920
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 4: by TKO at the two twenty seven mark of round three.

921
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: Shout out to Antonio Broccoli Trocoli. By the way, that

922
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 4: should be his nickname. I think if I'm Antonio Trocoli

923
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 4: truck and I'm trying to resonate with the fan base

924
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 4: rights maybe a friend UFC fighter right now growing out

925
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: my hair, I'm fucking dying at Green and I'm Antonio

926
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 4: Broccoli Trocoli, and people are going to give a shit.

927
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 4: This kid arrived in Saudi Arabia at one am. He's

928
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 4: a massive middleweight one am Friday and made the weight

929
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: right right, total respect. But the notion that he was

930
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 4: going to be able to be competitive on this night

931
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 4: after that situation, I thought was super ambitious. There was

932
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 4: a situation obviously where he was close to a takedown

933
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 4: and Mark Goddard did not give him the takedown after

934
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 4: an egregious fence grab by Charil Bullet, but Kenny, I

935
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 4: guess we'll start with you anything on char Bullet. He's

936
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 4: a fun striker to watch, certainly's going to have to

937
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: work on his wrestling defense. But what were your thoughts

938
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 4: on Charle Bullet and sort of the elements to that

939
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: main car fight.

940
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, it's never easy to fight a

941
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: guy who's that tall, that long, you know, Trocoli. I

942
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 3: actually thought he landed a very good right hand in

943
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: round one that seemed to stun the Bullet. But yeah,

944
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: I agree with you on the wrestling. Why well, first

945
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: of all, people are going to realize you got to

946
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: take the guy down right number one. But I also

947
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: think it's going to allow him to throw more volume

948
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: during the rounds. I think that's why we're seeing that

949
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 3: kind of lack of volume, or perhaps lack of confidence,

950
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: especially early on in the fight. And because of that,

951
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: he's a little hesitant, doesn't want to be taken down.

952
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: So I think having that wrestling confidence, that ability to

953
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: defend takedowns, know what range he's going to be capable

954
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: at all, that stuff is going to allow him to

955
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: be that much more dangerous of a striker. So I

956
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: couldn't agree with you more there and you know, he's

957
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: still learning. It's one thing to go out there and

958
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: win these fights and be exciting outside of the UFC.

959
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: It's a completely different animal to do that inside the

960
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: UFC against the best fighters in the world. So I

961
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 3: do think he's got a lot of potential. There was

962
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: a lot of hype on him heading into the UFC.

963
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure he's kind of proven that he deserved

964
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: that hype quite yet, but he does have potential. He

965
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: is a good striker, just needs to shore some things

966
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 3: up when it comes to the grappling skills.

967
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I say, John we Die is sail white

968
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 5: and call him chalkily.

969
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: There you go. Ray Dana said after the fight, he

970
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: was asked about the viability of shar a bullet fighting

971
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 4: in the United States of America, and he said that

972
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: we probably can't fight him there, so we'll probably keep

973
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: him over there. I mean, I don't even know. I

974
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: have no inside information as to whether or not this

975
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 4: man can see out of both of his eyes or

976
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: if that is just a visual thing. But it seems

977
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: as though there are some definite hurdles in terms of

978
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: getting shot a bullet to the United States. And I

979
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: think that is going to be preventative when it comes

980
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 4: to him getting big fights. I'd like to move on

981
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: to Jared Gordon if I could against and I do

982
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: that so gosh. I mean, when you look at Jared

983
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 4: Gordon's body of work, he just doesn't have the wins

984
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 4: to show for how he's performed. In my opinion, Nasrat

985
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: Hack Press gets it done by split decision. It was

986
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 4: a close fight, but yet felt like all three rounds Raymond,

987
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 4: were pretty easy to score. I thought Jared won this

988
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 4: fight twenty nine to twenty eight. And you know, Kenflow

989
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 4: wasn't the only guy with a big ticket on Jared

990
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: Gordon and the plus two to fifty range, which I

991
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 4: guess is neither here nor there. But what were your

992
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: thoughts on the feature prelium at one hundred and fifty

993
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: five pounds Raymond?

994
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 5: Look, I'm in agreement with you one hundred percent. I

995
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 5: thought Jared Gordon won that fight. Yes, it was a

996
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 5: close fight, but he was always going forward. He had

997
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 5: him rocked they think at one of two times. Definitely,

998
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 5: I would think that the more damage based on what

999
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 5: I was looking at. Again, competitive close fight, but I'm

1000
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 5: going with you easy to score. Jared Gohad and gets

1001
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 5: that win. But you know, maybe you don't fight a

1002
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 5: guy from Morocco and Saudi Arabia.

1003
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: It's the only thing I could think of, because I

1004
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: thought he won the fight.

1005
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, there were some scorecards. I also thought that, with

1006
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: respect to Rena Fokardinov, that Nicholas Dalby deserved to win

1007
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 4: that fight and he was on the wrong end of it. Split, Kenny,

1008
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 4: what do you have for us on Jared Gordon and

1009
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 4: h and Nasrat hack Press? Of course, being cornered by

1010
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: your good friend for us a hobby.

1011
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, listen, I think half Parass is a

1012
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: good kid. I thought he fought really well, but he

1013
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: lost the fight. I thought Gordon was landing the more

1014
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: effective strikes, you know, and kind of how do you

1015
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: know that. You know a lot of people go with

1016
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: volume and things like that. Well, if you're landing strikes

1017
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 3: and you're backing up the other guy because of those strikes,

1018
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: and if you're you know, getting strikes landed on you,

1019
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: but you continue to move forward, it doesn't it means

1020
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: that you're landing the more effective strikes if you're if

1021
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: you're hitting me and I continue to walk forward and

1022
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: it's not doing anything to me then, like you can

1023
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: kind of throw those out if I'm throwing shots and

1024
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: backing you up. And that's really the story of this fight.

1025
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: I thought half press probably one round one even that

1026
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: was very close. You could have an argument for Gordon

1027
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: winning that as well, but I thought it was pretty clear.

1028
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: That's a twenty nine to twenty eight for Jordon, potentially

1029
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 3: a thirty twenty seven for Gordon. He was you know, again,

1030
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about the takedowns and you know,

1031
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: the octagon control because that's all null and void. We

1032
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 3: didn't even have to get there because he was the

1033
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: more effective striker. Yeah, I don't understand how you saw that.

1034
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: Maybe Gordon could have shaved his mustache. That might have

1035
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 3: helped him a little bit, right, But I don't know, man,

1036
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 3: I don't understand what happened there. That was a it'd

1037
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: be a little aggressive for me to say robbery, right,

1038
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: but it's a clear win for Gordon, And you gotta

1039
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: feel bad for that guy because he's been so close before.

1040
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 3: We all know about the Patty Pimblet fight, but just

1041
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: for him to keep back in the UFC with everything

1042
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 3: he's dealt with, man, he's trying his hardest, all that stuff,

1043
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 3: and he comes up short on something like that. It sucks.

1044
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: It sucks. And I hope this doesn't deter him or

1045
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 3: take away in any passion from him or work ethic,

1046
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: because he won that fight. He really did. I'm afraid

1047
00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 3: it might.

1048
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 4: I got it into it with him extensively over text

1049
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 4: message after the fact, and the conversation sort of ended

1050
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 4: ray with him saying, I just don't know what to do, man,

1051
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 4: you know, I just well, he's winless. You know, he's

1052
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 4: got one win in his last four, the no contest

1053
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 4: with Bobby Green. But I look at two split decisions

1054
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: and actually I think the Patti Pimblet fight was unanimous remarkably.

1055
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: But the Patti Pimblet fight is a win, and the

1056
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 4: Nasrat hack preass fight with respect is a win. And

1057
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 4: so instead of being unbeaten in his last four with

1058
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 4: three wins and a no contest, he has this, you know,

1059
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 4: just situation in his career where he doesn't know what

1060
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: to do. Juxappos against Nasrat Hack Press is won four

1061
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: in a row. So and at lightweight Kenny, it's like

1062
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 4: there's just no margin forever. And then he doesn't get

1063
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: the bonus, you know, because char Bullet gets the bonus, right.

1064
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: It was Whitaker, it was charl Bullet, it was Volcanou's

1065
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: Demir and then the very deserving Felipe Lima. But it's

1066
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 4: like when it rains, it fucking pours for Jared Gordon,

1067
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I don't know what the kid

1068
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: has to do. I think I might have to send him

1069
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 4: a book us.

1070
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 5: Can I get my quarterly check first?

1071
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: Giving away money we don't have?

1072
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what.

1073
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: They'll send him a shirt on me? Can you do that? Will?

1074
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: I will?

1075
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if that'll make him jump off the

1076
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: bridge as quick as possible.

1077
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 4: Do you think he wants the Ray Long Go Minute

1078
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 4: design or maybe the Ken Kent Low Wolverine design.

1079
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 5: You know, he's from a story of giving them afia shirt.

1080
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,479
Speaker 5: That's right, understand that better. But man, what a nice

1081
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 5: guy too? Man, it it sucks when they do this

1082
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 5: because just like again, and.

1083
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: I don't like.

1084
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 5: I mean, he's a good kid, and I think he

1085
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 5: will bounce back from that, but it's almost like he's

1086
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 5: put in there for those type of decisions.

1087
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

1088
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 5: I don't know what I'm I don't even know what

1089
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 5: I'm saying, but you know, Pimlet was going to get

1090
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 5: the call because that's who everybody's leaning towards you one

1091
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 5: hundred on that fight, and I think they just look

1092
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: at him as that guy that I don't know it's

1093
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 5: shitty though it really is shitty. And to hear him

1094
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 5: say that, I don't know what I'm gonna do. That

1095
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 5: breaks my heart because man, that guy gives it is

1096
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 5: all every time he goes in there, and to come

1097
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 5: up short like that, how many times can you take?

1098
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 5: It's like you keep beat somebody downs, only a matter

1099
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 5: of time to lit down, you know what I mean.

1100
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: And I don't know, well hat Pres was competitive and

1101
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: he's putting a lot of hard work in his own right,

1102
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 4: but I just don't think he deserved to win this fight.

1103
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 4: And poor Jared, I think with a broken orbital if

1104
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, and I gonna have to deal with

1105
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: some recovery and what was probably a hellish flight home

1106
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 4: for him. But one thing I'll say in closing on

1107
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 4: Jared Gordon, you know he had the huge knock, got

1108
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: a Madison square Garden against Marco Madson and then our

1109
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 4: whole Fighter meeting, Kenny was about getting a finish here, right,

1110
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 4: which he was pursuant of the whole fight because one

1111
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five pounds you got to make a statement, right,

1112
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 4: And he just was all offense on this night and

1113
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 4: backed up everything he's said in the Fighter meeting, And

1114
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,479
Speaker 4: so maybe the blow would have been softened a little

1115
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: bit if you get the bonus that he doesn't even

1116
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: get that. So I'm hoping that Jared Gordon can recover

1117
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: and get a big fight, and we'll see what they

1118
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 4: do with half Press, who has won four in a row.

1119
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 5: Ah yeah, go ahead, ray No, I was gonna saying,

1120
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 5: Kenny's right, man. The guy went forward. Whatever the other

1121
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 5: guy was doing definitely didn't determine. I think it was

1122
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 5: even more than that. He did buckle Nasa Rout a

1123
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 5: couple of times. You know what I'm saying, What else

1124
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 5: do you want from the guy like he It looked

1125
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 5: like there were a couple of times he was on

1126
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 5: the verge where he could have finished the fight, and

1127
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 5: he was chased them around. So I don't know, and

1128
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 5: my heart goes out to that guy, and I hope

1129
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 5: somebody does the right thing.

1130
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 4: Eventually all right, last thing on the UFC fight night,

1131
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 4: and then we'll get some thoughts from Ray on UFC

1132
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: three ZHO three. In our final five minutes, Felipe Lima,

1133
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 4: who is a natural bannam weight, moves up to featherweight

1134
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 4: on short notice and beats Mohammed Naimov by rear naked

1135
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 4: boking round three. He's the fourth and final bonus winner.

1136
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 4: What a kid, What a story. Family's in Manaus. Tried

1137
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 4: to get to the United States to train, couldn't get there,

1138
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 4: so he goes to All Stars in Sweden. The lines

1139
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 4: with Andreas Michael and Kamzat Chimaiev and everybody else has

1140
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 4: been UFC ready can flow for years, right, gets this

1141
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: short notice opportunity, makes the most of it. Ray. I

1142
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 4: don't know if you saw the Felipe leen fight, but

1143
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 4: this kid, I think is the real Yeah, that's okay, No,

1144
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: that's okay. He was actually watching that.

1145
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 5: It was at the first two fights. I think that's

1146
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 5: the fights I missed. Was it up in the beginning.

1147
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like the album. Yeah, it was actually

1148
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 4: right before the feature of Prelim, but Kenny saw it. It

1149
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 4: was the fifth prelium. Actually, Ken flow go ahead.

1150
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I thought, you know, his opponent was tough.

1151
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: He was really good. He was looking for takedowns. He

1152
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: was a good striker himself. But I thought Lima was

1153
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: throwing some really dynamic striking combinations. He looked really good,

1154
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 3: kept at it, uh with the high volume, was was staying,

1155
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 3: you know, seemed like he was still in really good

1156
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 3: keeping the pressure on and they ended up getting to finished

1157
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 3: with the rear naked choke man. And it was that

1158
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 3: one opportunity, And that's what you're looking for at the

1159
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 3: elite level. It's like, give me that one shot, and

1160
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 3: if I get that one shot, I'm gonna finish the deal.

1161
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: That's exactly what he did. He showed that he's high

1162
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: level and he did it against another guy who I

1163
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: thought was a really good fighter. So a tremendous performance. Man, Hey, Ray,

1164
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: when's your next haircut soon?

1165
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: How's a look? Why you're getting it?

1166
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 4: Looks okay, it looks okay.

1167
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: Let me just put some.

1168
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 4: All right before we get you out of here. Alex

1169
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 4: Padata is defending his light heavyweight championship this weekend. Now,

1170
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 4: I can't speak to uripro Haska's relative health or what

1171
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 4: type of training scenario he had. But all indications are

1172
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 4: that Alex Padata, while working out and doing seminars and stuff,

1173
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 4: was not in training camp, was in Australia, might be

1174
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 4: dealing with a broken toe or two. Whether matters or

1175
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 4: not in the matchup, I don't know. But what are

1176
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 4: your thoughts on this Lightheadway Championship this weekend? And forced

1177
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 4: to make a pick? Are you going with the favorite,

1178
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 4: Elexpedata or the underdog at euripro Hoskin.

1179
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think basically everything you said, you know, broken

1180
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 5: toe seminars. I think because he's fought him before, there's

1181
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 5: a familiarity there that you know, he's willing to jump

1182
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 5: in there maybe a little bit, you know, early, if

1183
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 5: he had to, which he does. I'm gonna go with Alox.

1184
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 5: I love the guy. I love everything about him. I

1185
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 5: love his walkout, I love his his punching power from

1186
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 5: his short distance. This whole thing is good man again,

1187
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 5: another guy stepping up, taking advantage, making the money, and

1188
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: you know it's a calculated risk. And I think Jury's,

1189
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 5: you know, a very talented guy, obviously spiritual with the

1190
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 5: martial arts and stuff, but.

1191
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: And he he's he's really good. He's really really good.

1192
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 5: But I think there's that other it's almost like that

1193
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 5: Johnny Walkett thing going on where his basics aren't there.

1194
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 5: But he's so dynamic and young and he's got and

1195
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 5: he well he has that Johnny walker doesn't have.

1196
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: His up here.

1197
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 5: I mean he believes, you know that spirituality for some guys,

1198
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 5: and he's one of them, really works. So yeah, he

1199
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 5: has obviously a shot of winning a fight. But in

1200
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 5: a long drawn out fight, I think Alex gets the

1201
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 5: fight done. And I mean I'm just saying like, the

1202
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 5: longer it goes on, he'll be able to see more openings,

1203
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 5: I believe. And the other guy, you know, once once

1204
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 5: you do crazy stuff, but you slow down a little bit,

1205
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 5: it leaves you open a little more.

1206
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: But I love ury, I love I like again. I

1207
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: like him.

1208
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 5: I like his old the whole thing, the Samurai thing,

1209
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 5: the whole bit. But I'm going with Alex man because

1210
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 5: that guy just man, he keeps in, he keeps the

1211
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 5: part going. Man, he's not messing around. He's always in character.

1212
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 5: And I don't even know if it is a character,

1213
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 5: but that's a scary son of a bitch.

1214
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: That guy.

1215
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: Can you please just stop calling him him Alex.

1216
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: Uh, what's his name?

1217
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 4: I mean, what the fuck is Alex? Bro? Alex go?

1218
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 4: Even Alex if you want, but.

1219
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: Alex. This thing.

1220
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 4: Like the Minute Men, you know, but like I guarantee

1221
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 4: you not the only fucking an employment podcast listener who

1222
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 4: heard Alex the third time and was like, is Ana

1223
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 4: gonna fucking correct him?

1224
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god, all right, we got another bar burder.

1225
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 3: We got Diego Lopez taking off Brian Man uh or Tego. Obviously,

1226
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: he's been around for a long time. He has proven

1227
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 3: his toughness time and time again. But Lopez Man seems

1228
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: to be streaking. He's dangerous as hell everywhere. How do

1229
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: you see this one going down?

1230
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with uh Lopes Lopez, You guys sez

1231
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 5: with Diego. I think it's his time. He's a young kid.

1232
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 5: He's only getting better and better. Even if he loses,

1233
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a great growing experience for his future.

1234
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 5: But I mean, the fact that Otego was talking about

1235
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 5: moving up to fifty, it means that he's not happy

1236
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 5: about forty five either.

1237
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1238
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 5: I love look or take is tough and you look

1239
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 5: your way he I don't think he was doing good

1240
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 5: against uh yeah, yeah.

1241
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: But he got the job done.

1242
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 5: But I think with this kid, but again, yeah, he

1243
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 5: is that another guy Kenny who's dynamic. But if he

1244
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 5: just held to a game plan, I think it would

1245
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 5: he I don't even know if the guy would lose

1246
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 5: if they could really structure him a nice game plan.

1247
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 5: But uh, I think Lopes is on the up and up,

1248
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 5: and uh it's his time and I think he gets

1249
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 5: the job done. What are the odds on that fight?

1250
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 4: Diego Lopez is favorite, albeit slightly minus one forty years all.

1251
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 5: Right, No, he his favorite, though I'm going with the

1252
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 5: one at man, I think and I love what I think.

1253
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: He gets the job done, all.

1254
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 4: Right at Rayvong mma on X don't bother with him

1255
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 4: on Instagram his chief account got hacked and the other one.

1256
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 4: You know, it's just what. Hey have a great day

1257
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 4: and a better evening. We appreciate the time. And uh see,

1258
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 4: Ray can take it, guys, Ray and I love to

1259
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 4: knock the walls. He could take it good.

1260
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: What am I taking?

1261
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 4: You're the chief ball knocker on this show? Anyway?

1262
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 5: You know, I gotta get my old busting chops back

1263
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 5: up to where they should be I've been lately.

1264
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna go.

1265
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: Crazy next week, Ray at uh longs MMA and Uh,

1266
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 4: unless you got anything else, we'll talk to you next Monday. Three.

1267
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 5: I have a great thing when I see you two

1268
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 5: guys first thing in the morning. This is what I'm plucking.

1269
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,479
Speaker 4: I take it easy, good dude guy leads the league

1270
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: and handsome Raymond Longo every week here on the Uniconploring podcast,

1271
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 4: and you may have heard Ray reference some quotes from

1272
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 4: Brian Ortega that can be accessed on MMA Junkie. I

1273
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 4: really liked these quotes from Ortega. Now he acknowledged that

1274
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 4: they're just kind of stepping in here, and certainly, I

1275
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 4: think if you're looking at it from afar without any

1276
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 4: inside knowledge, you feel like Diego Lopez is training all

1277
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 4: the goddamn fucking time and he's just an absolute animal.

1278
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 4: Maybe Bryan Ortega was looking at a date in September

1279
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 4: not cha UFC. He mentioned that there was an opponent

1280
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 4: bandied about at one hundred and fifty five pounds, So

1281
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 4: Ortega was maybe working towards moving up to lightweight and

1282
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 4: it is instead taking this unique opportunity and it's exciting

1283
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 4: to Brian it's exciting to hear him talk about the

1284
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 4: nature of this matchup and accepting it on short notice

1285
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 4: against this guy who's all the rage. But I do

1286
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 4: like hearing Ortega sort of talk about fifty five because

1287
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 4: it's it's not gonna be anytime soon for him getting

1288
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 4: a featherweight championship opportunity, even if he does beat Diego

1289
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 4: Lopez this weekend.

1290
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 3: No, totally. I think it shows excellent self awareness. He

1291
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: understands what's happening in the division, and really that's the

1292
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: way it's gonna play out, right. I mean, Topori is

1293
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 3: a champ right now, it's gonna be against Holloway.

1294
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

1295
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: And if it's not Holloway, right, something happened to that

1296
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: folk stepping in in the second fight, So that pushes

1297
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 3: Ortega back even if he gets a very impressive win here,

1298
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 3: unless something happens or one of those guys get injured

1299
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 3: or something like that. Like you always want to stay

1300
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: stay ready and busy. But Ortega has the right diagnosis here,

1301
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 3: you know, a diagnosis here.

1302
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1303
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: And but you know, you wonder you know, is he

1304
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 3: does he realize that this is still a very important fight,

1305
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: like Lopez is hungry a win over Ortega is a

1306
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: big deal. Uh, So he better come in here very

1307
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 3: well prepared because Lopez is no joke and I think

1308
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: that fight there's no other way. But it's gonna deliver

1309
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of action.

1310
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 4: There's no question, a huge addition to UFC three oh three,

1311
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 4: and it is coming up this weekend. Diego Lopez and

1312
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 4: Brian Ortega. All right, we are going to be back

1313
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 4: either tomorrow or Wednesday with a full preview of UFC

1314
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 4: three oh three. We'll get kem Flo's boom thoughts on

1315
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 4: Connor McGregor, the toe injury and all of that when

1316
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 4: Mike Connor return.

1317
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

1318
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 4: If you want to support the program and the one

1319
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 4: More Sleep movement, you can go to John Anna dot com.

1320
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 4: Kenny Florian dot com is well for our entire Anaki

1321
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 4: Florian podcast merchandise store, including that aforementioned wolverine design. And

1322
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 4: we will be back with you. It might be Tuesday,

1323
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 4: might be Wednesday, but Brian Peetre will be alongside. I'll

1324
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 4: be live in the penthouse. It actually will be live

1325
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 4: to tape, but we'll have a full premium predictions for

1326
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 4: UFC three oh three, and then of course back on

1327
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 4: Monday from the home studio to recap it all. Thank

1328
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 4: you all for tuning in. Thanks to Ray Longo. Our

1329
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 4: producer is Cody Merrill. Thanks to Big Ron Pellegrino for

1330
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 4: the hospitality for kem Plum John An, Thank you all

1331
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 4: for watching and listening live. We will talk to you

1332
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 4: in less than forty eight hours. Until then, you fucking

1333
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: Bread in a row.