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Uh. 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: They go deep into the wager game every single week. 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: Go check them out. UM for golf betting and Uh, 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: I'm a huge golf better may or may not have 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: just made you know, three three g s on j 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: T post and thank you, big win for me and 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: j T. And uh we are gonna come back on 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: Friday with a football podcast, sports podcast in general. I 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: mean a lot of stuff going on, usc U, c 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: L A, UM, not quite NFL. They'll they'll, they'll probably 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: be some NFL news trickling out in the next couple 28 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: of days. So we'll talk a little football and uh 29 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: talk to Greg McElroy. That'll come out next week. Have 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: a couple other guests for the following weeks and uh 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: st Andrew's the the Open Championship, the Open that was 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: the terrible accent. It wasn't an accent. We'll do something 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: on that next week with Sobel already have several major 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: I have a huge wager on Roy McElroy, a massive 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: wager on Justin to Thomas um, I love the gamble, God, 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: I love the gamble. And we'll just keep rocking and 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: rolling from there. So this is the golf podcast you 38 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: want to get in those d M s at go 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: Low pod and boy and I'll do the questions next 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: week for the Open podcast at John middlecoff Is. My 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Instagram been a little out of pocket. You know, sometimes 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: it's nice to just remove yourself from social media. There's 43 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: like the real world going on, very very healthy and 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: refreshing to do. So slide up into those if you 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: have any football or live questions, and we'll keep rocking 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: and rolling. Here is uh my interview. You can find 47 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: it on the Tour Junkies pot as well. I'm gonna 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: put it out on this feed. I hope you enjoyed. 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: I love his takes. He's a take smith. Follow each 50 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: other on Twitter. Had to have him on the show. 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: Want to talk about live golf? Want to talk a 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: little golf gambling. First of all, John, thanks for thanks 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: for meeting up and agreeing to do this. Buddy, Yeah, 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: what's going on? I've been listening to you guys. Uh 55 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm a golf gambling addict and I've been listening to 56 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: do you two for a while now, especially the long Shot. 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: I love listening to that part of this week. I 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: mean we're recording this is John Deere is going on, 59 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: like listen, boring, boring field. But when you gamble, makes 60 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: you pay attention, you know, hundred percent. Man, And we 61 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: both got some cash on JT post and who's off 62 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: the good start our buddy, j P. I love that, man. 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: I love that You're you're golf die hard, you know, 64 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: gambler like us, and you know we're definitely not professionals, 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: but um we've been doing it for a long time 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: and love the long shots, love the chase, love the 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: sweat of golf. Uh And actually, you know I think that, Um, 68 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing we can kind of get 69 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: started here if you want to talk about it. John, 70 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: We were talking about Live before the podcast started and 71 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: just thinking through like how how live could how live 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: is going to fit into the gambling landscape right because 73 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: right now there's only a few books that have that 74 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: have the regulations and everything set up for you to 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: gamble and live golf. It's available primarily on like bet 76 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: MGM has a lot of states available, But like, doesn't 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: it kind of suck though when you think about I mean, 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: I hate betting on a w g C event because 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: it's like no cut. I feel like I lose a 80 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: little bit of the edge. The field so small, Like 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do with that? Like what's gonna 82 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: get you jazzed up? I know you left top ten 83 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: bets like betting a top ten in a fifty man 84 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: field sucks too. I know. I um so I was. 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: I was at the gym and I have I I 86 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: got ESPN Plus. The ESPN Plus is done a great 87 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: job if you like gambling on golf, because you can 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: watch so much of it on Thursdays and Fridays and 89 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: even like Saturday and Sundays on the morning when you're 90 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: watching specific guys. And I had it up and like 91 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: you said, I'm watching JT and he's just sucking Birdie 92 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: after Birthday. I'm like, hell yeah, and uh. And then 93 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I gotta check out Pumpkin Ridge. So 94 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: I flip over and whenever the first event happened. Remember 95 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: they had like a hundred thousand people watching it one 96 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: time on it was like Pat McAfee numbers and it 97 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: was big. And I flip it on and I wasn't 98 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: quite sure if it was live, and I've never played there, 99 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: so I couldn't tell the course. It kind of looked 100 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: like the course that they had just played a couple 101 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: of the holes I saw, and then I realized as 102 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: it was Pumpkin Ridge and they had ten holes left. 103 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: But then I'm like, what am I watching I'm not 104 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: gambling on any of these people, you know, Phil, scruffy Phil. 105 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: It's like what and again, I am not anti these 106 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: guys leaving. Totally understand why they all did. They all 107 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: have their different reasons, all different points in their career. Uh. 108 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, you can argue over individuals, but like, listen, 109 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: when you hear Bryson, who no one likes him on 110 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: the PGA tour, he tries to get on the packboard. 111 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: They won't let him on. So he's like, you guys 112 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: don't like me. I I can't. I'm a YouTube addict. 113 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: You won't let me YouTube, which we can say whatever 114 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: we want. But that's a legitimate rule and he's not 115 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: allowed to do that and he's obviously doing it there, 116 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: so he leaves. Um, it's a problem. I like, I 117 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: enjoy watching Bryson. I remember last year when was he 118 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: playing him in Westwood going at it at the Arnold 119 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Palmer and the bomb and drives like that was fun. 120 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: Bryson is, regardless what you think about, an important cog 121 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: to the PGA tour. You know, you can't just loose, 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 1: like the NFL doesn't just want to lose, like Tyreek 123 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: Hill or Nick Bosa like he's an important member and 124 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: just star of their league. So I'm going to pay attention. 125 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: And it's clearly only starting, but from a gambling aspect. 126 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Once they get that figure it out, I do think 127 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: that could impact, you know, someone like me who ultimately 128 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: I just want to consume golf, and I want to 129 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: consume the best golfers. I love like you. I like 130 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: playing golf, and I love the watching the best guys, 131 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, dominate. It's fun. I enjoyed the PGA Tour, 132 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: but part of that is because they have Tiger, Phil Rory, 133 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: you know, Jordan whoever, and now you keep stealing those guys. 134 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: Obviously the names change as you age or whatever, but 135 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, it's one of the bigger stories 136 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: in sports because of all the elements, right, the money, 137 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: the politics, all everything. Yeah, And I don't I hate 138 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: what people say, like because I mean, if you followed 139 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: us long enough, you probably know. I can't stand Bryce 140 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: into Shamba as a human, I think, and most people 141 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: don't know. He's a hundred percent something the game needs. 142 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: He's interesting. I want to watch him, other people want 143 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: to watch him, and I totally respect what he did 144 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: to his body and to his game, like it's incredible. 145 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: So mad props there, um, But I don't like it 146 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: that these these people don't understand on Twitter and on 147 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: whatever when they're going like, oh, all lives God is 148 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of washed up guys and guys that you know, 149 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: all the all the tools of the PGA tour, you know, 150 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: and they're dogging on Matt Wolf and they're dogging on 151 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: on Brooks and they're talking about how bad these guys 152 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: are playing, and I'm like, yo, we're we're not that 153 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: far from Brooks. I mean, Brooks should have won the 154 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: pg could have won the PGA Championship last year going 155 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: he was in the final group. He was he was 156 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: head to head on Phil Like, Brooks is not gonna 157 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: be a guy he won the waste management one, the 158 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: waste management Yeah, Like it's these guys are are are 159 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: not that far out of this thing. Matt Wolf is 160 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: is going to be a good golfer for a while. 161 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: I think still his his game has definitely suffered lately. 162 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: He's had some mental battles he's been struggling with. I 163 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: don't know that getting a you know, asked ton of 164 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: money from from the Lift Tour is gonna help him 165 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: all that much. But he's got a ton of talent 166 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: in there. Uh, And all the villains, all the villains 167 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: that the PGA tour needs and make interesting, are now 168 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, over there lived and so like for me, 169 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: I guess the big picture is like when do we 170 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: press the panic button? As uh, you know, as as 171 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: golf fans and golfers, because right now, what I hate 172 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: is that this whole thing feels so fractured and segmented 173 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: and deluded that I'm I'm worried that the product, both 174 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: products are gonna be so deluded with talent that neither 175 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: one of them are going to be all that exciting 176 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: to watch. That's why I completely agree I'm with you 177 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: on the Matt Wolf slander. It's like two and a 178 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: half years ago when the trio was coming out, right, 179 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: him Hovelin, who were teammates in college and Colin. If 180 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: it was the NFL or the NBA, we would have 181 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: been discussing those one of those three guys gonna go 182 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: number one in the draft like he would have been 183 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: in the mix. And early on it was like, is 184 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: Wolf the best one? Yeah? Obviously more Cow was resume 185 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: is the best, and you would say Hovlin has been 186 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: more consistent than Wolf, but Hovland has been terrible in major's. 187 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: Wolf was right there with Bryson at Wingfoot, and he 188 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: kind of came out of nowhere a little bit on 189 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: the weekend at Harding Park, but I think he finished fourth. 190 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: I saw someone say, I'm trying to look it up 191 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: right now, but it's not coming that. His season. Actually 192 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: this year is not as bad as the way people 193 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: are talking about it. I think he was like fifty 194 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: seven and FedEx points. He's not like Gonna. He wouldn't 195 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: been like off the tour on this base. He's just 196 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: having a rough year, but relative to like most people, 197 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: he's still bracking up cash and he's twenty three years old, 198 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: So I would argue him and Bryson and Kepta like I, 199 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: I do think you could stomach losing DJ even though 200 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: he's the most accomplished of kind of that crew in 201 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: terms of longevity. But Kepta has got four majors, and 202 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: the way we judge people in golf is majors, and 203 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Wolf is a stud young player who's having some rough times, 204 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: but you do not want to lose him and Bryson villain. 205 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: Whatever you want is a star. And really I would 206 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: say speak Rory or probably the truly most famous with casual, 207 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: non diehard golf people. I do think Bryson had entered 208 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: that chat the last the last year, like you just met. 209 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: If you just went to an SEC game and we're 210 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: just bullshitting with a guy that loves sports, he would 211 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: know who Bryson D. Shambo was, even if he doesn't 212 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: play golf. And you can't golf is not the NFL 213 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: or Major League Baseball or you know, big enough or 214 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, European soccer where you can afford to lose, 215 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: or the PGA Tour specifically, And I'm with you, I 216 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: don't want I just I don't care what the tour is. 217 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: I just want the best players all playing with each other. Right. 218 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: I wish this week at Pumpkin Ridge or at John 219 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: Deere we just had a crew of the majority of 220 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: good players. Right. Yeah, So which is not gonna be 221 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: the case. It's only gonna get worse, clearly, um and 222 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: that yeah, we'll talk about that. Like, but let me 223 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: ask this as we look at the World Golf ranking 224 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: and we kind of start to play the World Golf 225 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: Ranking game, at what point do we do we truly 226 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: start to panic? Is it you know, is it Tony Now? 227 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: Probably not? Is Billy hors Will probably not. The number 228 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: four teenh throwning player in the world is Sadecki Mantzi Yama. 229 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: He's another major champion of master's champion. He's a worldwide 230 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: uh draw and he's massive. I gotta British I gotta 231 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: British open bed on him too. I think you might 232 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: have mentioned it, or I was listening to someone. I 233 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, he hit that three wood 234 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: at the at the US Open. You know, when he 235 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: was in that little lower It's like, I think he's 236 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: got a lot of shocks. If he's on, you know, 237 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: he could he could dominate over there. And the short game. 238 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: I just came back from Scotland, got to play the 239 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: old course with the bleachers and leaderboards up awesome. Wasn't 240 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: so incredible, but you know, it emphasizes a lot on 241 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: the short game too. But in the deck, he's got 242 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: loads of that that people don't give him enough credit. 243 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: Very flat greens, right, It's just it's not much undulation. 244 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: It's just very flat. No. That that almost shocked me 245 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: the most because like people say that about a gust 246 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: all the time my hometown. They're like, wow, I can't 247 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: believe until I get out here how much undulations on 248 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: the greens, Like you can't tell from the TV. Same 249 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: thing at the old course, Like those greens are not 250 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: black at all. There is a ton of undulation, Like 251 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: a ton of vundulation, got got me in a ton 252 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: of trouble, Lenny. Um, so you can put some crazy 253 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: pin pin positions out and I think I think the 254 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: greens are very similar outside of speed. They're very similar 255 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: to Augusta. Lots of up and down, lots of undulation. Um. 256 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: But I mean is Sideki is Sideki in the same 257 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: class in terms of if we lose If the PGA 258 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: tour lost to DECKI is that like losing a Will's 259 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: out tourists at Jordan's speed, a Justin Thomas or a 260 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: Rory or a John rom Is. Yeah, I would say 261 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: maybe internationally for him, I think maybe I look at 262 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: it more domestically. I think it's very important, Like that's 263 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: why losing Kepka and Bryson, Like once DJ went, you 264 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: felt like, well, maybe he's just over it. And he 265 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: kind of had this weird vibe the last couple of years, 266 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: even though he was still really good, you could stomach it. 267 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: To me, Bryson and Keptco were just like gut punches, 268 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: and I would say would be American group, like a 269 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: what if Xander and Can't Lay that Lit'tle duo both bounced. Yeah. 270 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: Did you watch the Brooks cap Sure you did. Did 271 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: you watch the Kepta Best Conference the other day? Yeah? 272 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: But I love the three of them sitting at the day. 273 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: The PGA tors should do more of that, like guys 274 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: out there kind of getting peppered at once, Like but 275 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, my my hot take on this is like 276 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: I just I'm over kept because puff guy attitude like 277 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: I was in the Pat makes fun of me out 278 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: my cost Pat Perry. For those of you that don't 279 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: know Pat. One of the one of the times that 280 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: I really almost sent Pat to, uh you know, barfon 281 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: in a brown bag is when we got press credentials 282 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: for the Players Championship that the week that the whole 283 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: world shut down. I was there. We had press credentials 284 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: and I go to that you go to the concert? 285 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: Who played on? Yeah? Uh, well I'm in the press 286 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: room on Tuesday and Brooks is up there, and I 287 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: wanted to ask him a question because the week before, 288 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: Adam Scott had been pictured in video, you know, played 289 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: a tournament wearing baggy pleated pants. Yeah, And I was like, 290 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: holy shit, are pleated pants? Is that? Is? That? Is that? 291 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: What we're about to do right now? Is all that 292 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: coming back? You gotta be getting me. So Brooks, being 293 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: a you know, fashionable Nike guy or whatever, I wanted 294 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: to ask him if Nike threw threw down some scripting 295 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: for you this week, you know, some pleted pants like 296 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: Adam Scott had last week? What would you do? Would 297 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: you wear? Him? And he and I was just having fun, 298 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: just a lighthearted question. It was a dumb question, right, 299 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: And I do dog on a lot of the members 300 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: of the golf media for asking really stupid questions, and 301 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: here I was asking one. But he could not have 302 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: been a bigger jack asked to me for asking that question, right, 303 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: And I could have asked him the same old ship 304 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: he gets asked all the you know, every other tournam 305 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: and he goes to. But he could not have been 306 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: a bigger jackass to me for that. And then like 307 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: weekend and week out, I I read every press conference. 308 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: I watch every press conference every week. That's part of, 309 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, some of the stuff we do for handicapped, 310 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: and he's just an asshole every week. And to me, 311 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: it's like, you don't have to be buddy buddy with 312 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: these guys. And I know they're asking tough questions that live, 313 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: but you gotta know that's coming, right. But like, just 314 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: he was just dripping with arrogance and like this tough 315 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: guy thing and he wants to me it's like he 316 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: acts like he doesn't care when really, deep down he 317 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: cares a lot, and I don't. I'm I'm now officially out. 318 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: Like that press conference for me on Brooks, I was like, 319 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm out on the guy. No longer a fan. Like 320 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: when the whole Brooks Bryson thing was going, I was 321 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: team Brookes. Like I was like, go Brooks, go Brooks, 322 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: go Brooks, because I can't stand Bryce. Now, I can't 323 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: say any of one of them, but like, to me, 324 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: his whole attitude in that thing was just so shitty. 325 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: It's well to me, I was, I played in like 326 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: a Skins game on last week, if you're listening to this, 327 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: and I was. We were having some beers and bullshitting 328 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: and we're just talking like last week at the US 329 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: Open for him to pretend and I know he's one there, 330 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: like he's a US Open champion. It's like, Bro, your 331 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: fucking brother joined. Your brother I was looking on Instagram. 332 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: Looked like he was the best man in your wedding. 333 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: Your brother joined. So I would give you some leeway 334 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: if you were like Xander or whatever. Like you know, 335 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: I gotta stop asking me these questions. I have no connection. 336 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: Your brother played in the event who Let's face it 337 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: would not have sniffed live the PGA Tour anything if 338 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: his name was John Middlecoff. So clearly, and I know 339 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: you're a big college sports guy. What happens usually in 340 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: college sports, I get like a brother to get a 341 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: brother brother, you know, I hire a cousin on my 342 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: staff to get the kid. It's like Brooks, it's a 343 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: pretty fair question for you, specifically when your brother was 344 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: there and then a day later for him to be like, yeah, 345 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: we didn't even We just started talking about it. Like. 346 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: The other thing is golf. I would say the golf consumer. 347 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: A huge part of the sport is when you're on 348 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: the course, you're either gambling with your buddy, even if 349 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: it's a dollar or five dollars, ten dollars, you're talking 350 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: business like money is incorporated in the sport. So like 351 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: these guys can say, like, listen, I got a lot 352 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: of money. Most of the consumer understands what's going on. 353 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: So for him to keep talking like this, like him 354 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: and DJ clearly aren't a close they once were. I 355 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: would say the big difference with him and DJ, DJ 356 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: is just much more just easier to deal with it. 357 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: May it might just be his person out here or whatever, 358 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: but like, does it feel like DJ is always getting 359 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: into these these things with the media because he's not, 360 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: Like it's contentious. So it's like, Brooks, I don't understand 361 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: why you're acting so angry about this when you just 362 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: set yourself up a week ago to freak out about it, 363 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: when your brother was in it previously. So everyone was like, 364 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: why is he so mad right now? It's just I'm 365 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: with you, He's just he's kind of an angry guy. Yeah, 366 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: we've all what we've all wanted since this whole thing 367 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: came out. I think even the fans and even the 368 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: media that like have really really you know, shipped on 369 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: this whole idea. We all just want these guys to 370 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: be honest. Like Pat Perez's answer in the in the 371 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: in the press conference was somewhat refreshing. You tweeted it 372 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: out right, I mean just he still didn't say much 373 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: about the money. You didn't say much about it. We didn't. 374 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: He didn't get as much a lot of the other guys. 375 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: So you don't want to just throw gave me ten million, 376 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: said next to guys that got But but at least 377 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: he was pretty candid about it. You know, look, I'm old, 378 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: I've been I've played in five something events. Like my 379 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: ass is tired. I that's all you need. Like, if 380 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: these guys would just own it, it would be so much, 381 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: it would be so much better. I like I like Pat, 382 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: but my issue there is not that long ago. And 383 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: and listen, I'm a believer money talks. It clearly does 384 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: in every walk of life. But he was one of 385 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: the most outspoken guys to Cole and Sleeves shipping on 386 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: the thing on their podcast, talking crap about Phil, talking 387 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: crap about the whole thing. And then he did it 388 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: and again he got ten million dollars is a lot 389 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: of money to people. But like the money he would 390 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: have made, like he kind of just sold out, like 391 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: he was just over it, you know, and so he 392 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 1: and he kind of pushed back a little. I mean 393 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: they're all like, well, I don't know what they expect, 394 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: you know now, And I'm with you. With the golf 395 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: media like yesterday um flip on the TV and Aimon Lynch, 396 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: who with Brandon or easily the two most outspoken, is 397 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: doing a one on one with Jay. So it's like 398 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: you're you are you have an agenda on this because 399 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: you're in business with them. So it's like we're all 400 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: in business with from people. If you're just authentic about it, 401 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: I think people, especially like our generation, younger people understand it, 402 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: you know. 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I think so, let 437 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: me ask you this. It ain't gonna stop though, Like 438 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean when you bring up the head Deques, the Zanders, 439 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: we don't know this. Tony's these They're gonna get a 440 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: couple of these, especially like over the next couple of months. Yeah. Again, 441 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: I was looking at the leaderboard today and it was 442 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: like hard to the names, like only three letters, and 443 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even that is that Phil? But 444 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: once a couple of these guys, especially like a Kepta 445 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: or a Bryson like Win and it's like, damn, they 446 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: just made four million. You know or even got second 447 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: and get to you do wonder if a couple of 448 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: fringe guys in that top bounce the leader they bounce, Yeah, 449 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: it's it's Domino's um the leader boards like playing a 450 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: little wordal game or something. Sometimes I saw Taylor Gooch 451 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: say that he I read an article today that he 452 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: had claimed and again he could be lying that he 453 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: had planned just his schedule was open. So when he 454 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: went to London, he was just gonna play because there 455 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: was a lot of money he thought he could make 456 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: and then continue to play on the PGA Tour. But 457 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: that day, once the balls flew that he got banned. 458 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to say that now because I 459 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: remember reading like he got a lot of money to go. 460 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: But it's just it's hard to believe any of these guys. 461 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: So uh so I was. I was at TPC Craig 462 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: Ranch about a month and a half ago, and um 463 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: I was. I was credential media there. I was standing 464 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: on the driving range. One of our close friends, Charles 465 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: Howell that third comes up to me and he's an 466 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: Ugusta guy. My coach Pat grew up hitting balls next 467 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: to him like Augusta Country Club and he tells me 468 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about lived and he's like, dude, I've had 469 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: the conversation with Greg Norman. Greg Norman's talked to me, 470 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: He's shown me um and he's told me that, uh, 471 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: they have a hundred million dollar account ere matt ear 472 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: mark for nothing but litigation against the PGA Tour when 473 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: all this goes down, and that's just to start, and 474 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: they want to find once they go, once they go 475 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: through that, if they need more, they'll use it. And 476 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Charles was like, dude, these guys are ready to throw 477 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: hands and a hundred and dollars Like I think I 478 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: just heard, you know, fil throughout the whole numbers about 479 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: what the PGA Tour was sitting on in terms of 480 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: a or something, and I've heard that the actual number 481 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: after COVID is now is the realistic numbers like three 482 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: four hundred million, that that that's what they had after 483 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: the after COVID kind of and they blew through stuff 484 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: like you're saying, just in you're just in a fun, 485 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: just in that fun, and so you're talking these guys 486 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: have a third or a fourth just earmarked for what 487 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: the PJA Tour has totally to be able to fight 488 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: this thing like that's That's one thing that that I 489 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: think you know is coming, is this The litigation hasn't 490 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: started yet, but but it's going to hit and it's 491 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: going to happen. And depending on what these majors decided 492 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: to do, depending on what the guys down the street 493 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: for me, August and National decided to do, it's gonna 494 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: make things very very interesting, um for you know, for 495 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: for both tours, can both tours exist? So I was 496 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: gonna ask you this, if you're j Monahan today and 497 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: you've handled it the way he's handled it up to 498 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: this point, what's your next move? Like, what do you 499 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: want to do? Well? One thing I saw justin Thomas 500 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: say that he's like, the way that I'm looking at 501 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: it now is ultimately once we get sued, because it's 502 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: gonna happen because a lot of the guys right are 503 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: not resigning like Patrick read I saw resigned yesterday. He's 504 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: like I'm out, which again I get it, everyone hates him, 505 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: but a lot of the guys are not. You know, 506 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: the gooches fills. I don't even think Pat Perez and 507 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: a lot of them, you work so hard, you're not 508 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 1: gonna resign. I don't think they're gonna. I don't think 509 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: Brooks has either. No, he didn't. He said he didn't either, 510 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: So and JT was like, well, once they sue the 511 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: PGA Tour, they're basically suing me. And I was like, 512 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: that's kind of fair. But there is no way that 513 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: Jay Monahan, when he threw down the hammer of the 514 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: indefinite suspensions, acted alone. Like ultimately Roger Goodell represents the owners, 515 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: Greg Sanky represents the institutions, if Drory McElroy, JT. Jordan's 516 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: and obviously there's a larger group of players as well, 517 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: but like they were on board with that. No, do 518 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: you agree with that? Like he didn't go rogue when 519 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: he dropped the suspension. I don't believe without at least 520 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: talking to some of his high end players because he 521 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: represents them, he ultimately repres the tour. If he did. 522 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: To me, that's insane. Yeah, I don't know, Like and 523 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't know either, but I my educated guests, as 524 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: he had to talk to some of them, which seems 525 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. Why would they want the smoke? But 526 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't think it's I don't 527 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: think it's the right move, man, Like I think the 528 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: move is. I think he acted little too quickly on 529 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: the suspensions because now you're in you're you're in a 530 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: hard place. You are saying, I'm okay, then I'm gonna 531 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: fight back and we're gonna do this. But but you're 532 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: also saying out of the other side of your mouth, 533 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: I know I'm outgunned here and I can't compete with 534 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: this foreign monarchy in an arms race, right, That's what 535 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: he said. So to me, I think you have to. 536 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: I almost think you've got a hat in hand before 537 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: this thing gets two out of out of whack and 538 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: you don't have the players on your side with all 539 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: the leverage, right because if they take a Heidecki, or 540 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: they take a Will or a Victor Hovland or whoever, 541 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: then it starts getting more and more difficult for you. 542 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: I kind of think it has to be like, all right, listen, 543 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: we we appreciate what these guys that have that have 544 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: gone over have built here on the p g A tour, 545 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: the names that they've already started to make for themselves. 546 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: We feel like we can all work on this together, 547 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: and and we're willing to to to step back reevaluate 548 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: our suspensions and and and work through this a little differently. 549 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the only because if if he doesn't 550 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: do that, it's a really crappy situation for especially golf 551 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: fans everywhere, because that's where I think that the product 552 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: continues to stay deluded, um and fragmented. But um, I 553 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: don't think. I think why he hesitates doing, you know, 554 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: trying to quote unquote broker deals or work together is 555 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: he's afraid that the money they can throw out that 556 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: ultimately doing handshake deals, they'll just steal everyone and ultimately 557 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: take them over. Because let's face it, Greg Norman has 558 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: a legitimate vandetta against the tour that wants like to 559 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: me and listen, a lot of humans. I mean, I 560 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I've had a couple in 561 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: my day. But if you don't have the resources to 562 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: take down your enemy, it doesn't truly matter. It's just 563 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: you being mad. The scary part about this guy that 564 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: has this vandetta, who wants would love to destroy the 565 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: PGA tour has the cash now, and I would imagine 566 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: Ja and other people in a circle and the people 567 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: that fund the PGA Tour that are long standing money. 568 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: People have to be a little nervous, so they throw 569 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: this haymaker. But if it doesn't connect, like Mike Tyson, 570 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: which it kind of doesn't feel like it's going to, 571 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: especially if the Major's keep letting them in. Which do 572 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: you think Augusta, Phil Nicholson one that think three times, 573 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: like DJ one Bright, Patrick Reed is a champion. These 574 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: guys won the Masters, won the Masters, you know the 575 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: route to me if there were no Master's Champion Sergio 576 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: like these guys in the last decade, I don't think 577 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: the Masters drops the hammer. Yeah, I don't think that's 578 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: what's gonna end up happening either. I think if they were, 579 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: they would have already done something. Um. I've heard rumors 580 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: that they were going to drop the hammer. I've heard 581 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: rumors that they weren't from from people around here in Augusta. 582 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 1: That do you think they suspended Phil or told him 583 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: not to show up? Is why Phil didn't show up? 584 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: Or Phil chose uh? I think I think what actually 585 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: happened is Phil chose not to come. I think he 586 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: truly chose not to come. I think that. I don't 587 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: I would probably lean that way. I don't think he 588 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: wanted to smug at that point either, I think you 589 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: wanted to go into you know, everybody around him as 590 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: PR people. Everybody's done him to just disappear and vanish 591 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: for a little bit, because once he didn't show up 592 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: to the PGA Championship where he was the defending champion, 593 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: obviously they would want him there, sure right, I mean, yeah, um, 594 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: so let let me phill Is phill Is messed up? Um? 595 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: Do you get this because you're a content creator obviously, 596 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: and you talk about the PJ Tour. Do you have 597 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: people on your Twitter account and your d MS saying 598 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: with their thing to us, which is well, I have 599 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: have have too things. We have people emailing us d 600 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: M ng us, Hey, are you guys gonna cover Lift? 601 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Are you gonna are you gonna talk betting on live? 602 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna talk PFS on live? When that now that 603 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: that's out, DraftKings is doing showdown content for live. Um, 604 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: And then we have other people who are going, I 605 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: can't believe you guys are covering live, Like, how dare 606 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: you cover live? And you're just giving it, You're giving 607 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: it energy, you're giving it legs. Um, you know that 608 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: you're basically putting your stamp of approval on Live by 609 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: covering it as as media. Are you getting that too, 610 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: if you've gotten any of that, Yeah, I mean no. 611 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: I guess my philosophy now, I get people that hate 612 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: it and some people that don't understand. I think a 613 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: lot of people in the media, when they're really anti Live, 614 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: don't necessarily represent the consumer. I don't think the consumer 615 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: really cares, but they do want to just watch whatever's easiest, 616 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: and that now fracturing it does make it difficult on them. 617 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: My philosophy is like I'll just talk about whatever matters 618 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: and right now Live and it feels like for the 619 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: foreseeable future is gonna matter. It's like, I'm sorry, Like 620 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: once Tiger showed up to the Masters, there's not much 621 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: else to talk about until like the until the guy 622 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: someone else wins it. But like Tigers getting any pcent 623 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: of the coverage, you know, it's just like it's just 624 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: part of the deal. Golf is a little different, probably 625 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: than some of the major sports, because they're so heavily 626 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: weighted on the top three or four guys. Like if 627 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: Jordan's playing well, Rory's playing well. But that's what Lived did. 628 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: They took the second most famous golfer of basically my lifetime, 629 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: Tyre and Phil. And they took just major champion stars. 630 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: So it's like, what if they just had Sergio Lee, 631 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: Westwood Falter, no one would give a ship here. But 632 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: the moment they get Bryson, DJ and Kepka and honestly 633 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Reed for golf audience is really interesting because people 634 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: hate him. So it's like they got people that like 635 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: even Pat Perez were I was talking about this yesterday. 636 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: If he would have been one of the American guys, 637 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: no one really would have cared. I like the guy, 638 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: but no one cares. But once they take and and 639 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: if they continue to take Hendrick Stinson, right he's the 640 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup captain. The rumor if he goes over there 641 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: in the next month and just wages like that is 642 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: a major major story. He just quits being the Ryder 643 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: Cup captain six months into his captaincy. I mean, isn't 644 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: that insane if that happens? Absolutely insane. Have you seen 645 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: Zack Johnson's quote about it about the Ryder Cup? Actually 646 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: I think I could, um, I can't imagine. You see 647 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: Freddie Couples to day said like he's not friends with 648 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: Phil anymore, like he'll never play golf of them again. 649 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: He's like, we're not even the same universe as human beings. Wow, 650 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: I did not see that. Let me show you. Let 651 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: me pull this up on the screen. This is a 652 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: quote from Zack Johnson. In order to play on the 653 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: Rider Cup team, whether you're top six or a pick, 654 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: you must garner Rider Cup points through the PJ of America. 655 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: Johnson said, in order to garner Rider Cup points through 656 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: the PGA of America, you have to be a member 657 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: of the PJ of America. The way that we're members 658 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: of the PGA America is through the PGA Tour. I'll 659 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: let you connect the dots from there. So ZJ is 660 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: basically saying, if you're not if you're not playing on 661 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour, you're not playing on the Rider Cup. 662 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: We'll think about who his crew is gonna be, right, 663 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: Tiger will be there if he can walk. You know, 664 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm Freddie, I'm sure we'll be there. They've been with Tiger, Like, 665 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: it's just it's clear who his boys are gonna be, 666 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be very Which is kind of sad 667 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: because this last Rider Cup, which was a sweet ass 668 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: kicking Phil it felt like was playing a pretty prominent 669 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: role around all the boys, right. And the other thing though, 670 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: is like they stole some sweet Rider Cup players, Like 671 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: I trust Kepta in a big match, like I trust 672 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: DJ in a big match. You know, Bryson, I don't 673 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: know if I trust him as much, but he was 674 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: fun to beat. Then DJ go five and out. I 675 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: bet on that at like forty two one he won 676 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: five points for us. You think who became his bff, 677 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: like one of the best young players. Him and Colin 678 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: are like boys. So it's like that pairing split. So 679 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, it's it's this story is not only 680 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: not going away. It feels like the Internet in like 681 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: two thousand two, it's like only starting. Yeah, people that 682 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: come at us like that, I'm like, look, dude, I 683 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: just quit my job a hundred days ago, my full 684 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: time job a hundred days ago, to do this toward 685 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: junkies thing. Full time. I got three kids. Like, if 686 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: everyone in their mom is talking about live and people 687 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: want to gamble on live and people want to bet on, 688 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna talk about it like, uh, now's my job, 689 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: and as members of the media, like that's what you're 690 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: gonna do so well. And think about this, the biggest, 691 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: the four biggest events in golf are always gonna be 692 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: the majors. Like that, it's not gonna change what is 693 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: going to be the biggest stories in those majors moving forward. 694 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: When those guys either being allowed to play, those guys 695 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: doing press conference, a lot of those guys are champions 696 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: of those tournaments. And it's just I'm with you. It's 697 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: I think you'd be crazy anyone. And honestly, it's like 698 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: you turn on you know, the PGA toward tournaments. They're 699 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: talking about it like live is working. From a publicity standpoint, 700 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: they sure are. Um, let's talk. Let's talk golf betting, man. 701 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: I want to hear about I want to hear about 702 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: your your your affection for golf betting, your strategy, what 703 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: you love to do, what you've you know, who's your 704 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: guy that you constantly lose money on. I'd love to 705 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: hear that. Yeah, I've had a lot. I mean I've 706 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: lost a lot of money on Tony Fine now probably 707 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Gary Woodlin as well. I mean, we we all have 708 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: our guys. I think I've been gambling. I'm thirty seven, 709 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: I've been gambling on sports probably for close to twenty years, 710 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: but only golf now. No, I'm like on the course 711 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: when I was playing against someone else maybe two years, 712 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: and there's just nothing like the return on investment. And 713 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: if you watch as much as we watch, you kind 714 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: of get a little bit of an edge on certain guys. 715 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: Now you can also become emotionally too close to certain players. 716 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: But I got probably the first year only thing I 717 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: bet on were winners, because there was just you could 718 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: get really of good players at like thirty five to one. 719 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: And you know, in the NFL, if I take the 720 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: Patriots over the Jets, if I bet two hundred dollars, 721 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: I might only win a d seventy dollars, you know, 722 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: if they're the favorite. But if I and I've hit 723 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: winners before, not many, but once you do, it's hard 724 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: to Like, once you hit JT twenty two one to 725 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: win the players last year, it's hard not to keep 726 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: dabbling in winners or DJ a couple of years ago 727 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: when he won the Fall Masters. But you also, you know, 728 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: can go dry for long periods of time. So I 729 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: would say I have dramatically pivoted to putting less on 730 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: winners and probably bigger bets on top fives in top tens. 731 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: Uh is something that like, uh the gala last week 732 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: at the Travelers, I had a pretty large bet on 733 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: him to just top ten and it hit, And it 734 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: just gives you so much more wiggle room on the 735 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: top tens. To me, top twenties go closer to like 736 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: the NFL odds, where it's like one to one unless 737 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: you're betting true long shots. But when you can get 738 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: really good like the gala last week was ten to 739 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: one to top ten and to meet him and Davis right, 740 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: Davis Riley is another guy who has cash, And I 741 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: love betting on two guys that feel like Sam Burns 742 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: and Scottie Scheffler of a year or two ago, they 743 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: are gonna win like it's inevitable. Honestly, both guys could 744 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: win several times over the next two or three years. 745 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: They don't go to live and you can still get 746 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: them sometimes at like forty to seventy to one wrench right, 747 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: And that means their top five or top ten odds 748 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: are eight to one or four to one, which is 749 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: which you feel pretty good about placing you know, quote 750 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: unquote larger units on than you would because you bet 751 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: even a hundred dollars on someone you know, twenty to one, 752 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: that guy could miss the cuts, which happens a lot. 753 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I love it about I love that 754 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: about golf gambling for sure, as the return is the 755 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: is the juice you get out of the squeeze betting 756 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: on golf. I've bet on the NFL. I've bet on 757 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: college football for quite a while. I quit doing that 758 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: altogether about five years ago, just strictly on golf. I 759 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: just love it. So it's always fun to talk that 760 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: up with you, and I will. I watch a lot 761 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: and I rely on guys like you that, like I 762 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: don't really study the strokes gained of the tee. You know, 763 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: you know obviously around the green the putting, clearly that 764 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: matters and in certain tournaments, and you guys do such 765 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: a good job on like, because this doesn't matter right 766 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: West Coast guys on the West Coast Swing, the guys 767 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: that are comfortable in the Florida Swing and that type 768 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: stuff there, their their history right on Poanna or Bermuda 769 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: or what like. That ship really matters. But I I 770 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: don't even know where it looks. So I come to you, 771 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 1: and you guys do a great job because that that's 772 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: something that I've really learned in golf, like guys to 773 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: stay away from and guys that are comfortable obviously Billy 774 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: Horshell when he gets to the South, you feel good about. 775 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's certain guys on the West, Maverick McNeely, 776 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: and you can just and this is what sucks about live. 777 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: You start taking some of my guys that are like 778 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: gambling on in certain areas, it pisces me off. Yeah, 779 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: So if you listen to podcast or you're more of 780 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: a team dB guy or team Pat guy, you can 781 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: be honest. Yeah, I mean it's it's sometimes I say 782 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: that Pat goes down some rabbit holes that I disagree 783 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: with some of his picks. But then every once in 784 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: a while, you know, he'll say something and you'll crush him, 785 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: and then that guy will perform well. And that's that's 786 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: the thing with golf, you know. It's just it's if 787 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: if you told me like to see golf, if you're 788 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes kind of overrated, everyone would be like, 789 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: this guy's an idiot. But you can say things in 790 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: golf you're like, you know, female like I'm not doing it. 791 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: And you're like, what are you talking about? Look at 792 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: this guy, he's like top ten and all these tournaments, 793 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: and you can just hate a guy who's really good, 794 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: and you can get a lot of people like, yeah, 795 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet on him either. Yeah, that's that's why 796 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: I love, like I love That's what's cool about golf. 797 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: There's just you can have opinions on really good players 798 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: and you get people to agree and disagree with you. 799 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: Where it's like if you said, like Nick and Joey 800 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: Bosa suck, you'd be like, what are you talking about? Right, 801 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: There's uh, there's just so much variance in it, right, 802 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: That's what that's ultimately what we're talking about. There's even 803 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: for the best players in the world, except for the 804 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: Tiger era that the real peak era. You know, favorites 805 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: lose golf tournaments way more than they win golf tournaments, 806 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: except for when Tiger was crushing everybody for so long. Right, 807 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: So I love of that, you know, every week for me, 808 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: just the way I like to bet and the way that, 809 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, what I like to sweat. I know every week, 810 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: like basically, if you're shorter than twenty two one, I'm 811 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: not touching you because it's golf. It's hashtag, four letter 812 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: word golf. And the chances are, you know, one of 813 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: these guys beyond you longer than twenty one, you know, 814 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: one of the If I got a handful of those, 815 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: or I can only bet one or two of you 816 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: guys that tend to one or fifteen to one, I'd 817 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: rather have the you know, the alternative. Well, like John Romp, 818 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: to me, his odds got so out of whack for 819 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: a while, like he's like seven eight two one. It's 820 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: like guys he's won like one time in a year 821 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: and he just wasn't winning. Where I would say the 822 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: one guy that, like, if I was gonna go big 823 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: on a favorite going in the Open, just because this 824 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: guy has had an incredible season, he ran out of 825 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: gas of the travelers, but I would say, Rory, you'd 826 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: feel like you got a pretty good chance on a 827 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: guy that just had a hot season. He's been close 828 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: if he were to win. Of all the guys that 829 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: are gonna have out because I've bet his odds for 830 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: the Open, what do you think they're gonna end up 831 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: around nine, one, ten to one, Right, They're gonna they're 832 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: gonna be high they're gonna be Yeah, they're gonna be 833 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: pretty short. Let's you want to look at some os 834 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: real quick for the Open? Yeah, I kind of want. 835 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: That's another thing I was thinking. I wanted to one 836 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: guy that I placed. I've hit a couple of top 837 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: ten bets this year, so I've I've had some AMMO 838 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: in the accounts, and I've placed a couple of futures. 839 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: And I did it on Salet's horse after the Masters. 840 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: Maybe it was the PGA Championship to win the US Open, 841 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: and I also did it, I think after the PJA 842 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: Championship on JT. To win the Open, I play some 843 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: pretty a couple of two and a half units on him. 844 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: I think it like sixteen and a half seventeen to one. Uh, 845 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: just because a guy that has all the shots now 846 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: has bones to kind of keep them under control, and 847 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: he can be a little hit or miss right when 848 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: he's off at majors, it can be. But I just 849 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: I think of all the top guys beside probably Rory, 850 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: I like JT a lot, just a guy to feel 851 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,479 Speaker 1: like I feel pretty good about taking as a favorite, because, 852 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, a guy thirty eight to 853 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: one could easily win the Open, especially that thing could 854 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: get weird, right, I mean, and the majors are a 855 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: little different. Like I talked about that. I mean, it's 856 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: it's hard to completely fade the top, you know, the 857 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: top ten percent of guys in a major championship, because 858 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: typically those guys are the ones bringing at home. But um, 859 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: it sounds like you had a good number on JT 860 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: because I'm seeing fourteen to one right now on your fans. Yeah, um, 861 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: the guy. The thing I was gonna tell you, So 862 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: we just played. I just literally two wednesdays ago we 863 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: were in Scotland on this golf trip. We played that 864 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: much it cost to play the old course. It was 865 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: like I think in US dollars, it came out of 866 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: like three D. That's incredible. And maybe you have to 867 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: tip the caddy, tip the caddy. Um, but I was 868 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna say it really changed my viewpoint some somewhat, or 869 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: maybe it maybe it really solidified some of what I 870 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: thought to be true about the Open. And and my 871 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: caddy was a very experienced caddy, been there for forever. 872 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna try to get him on the tour. John 873 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: Kye showed to help us out with the with the 874 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: Open Championship, but I think the Open at at the 875 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: Old Course begs for a guy with experien orients there 876 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: and and or because because there's a name here that 877 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: that I still really like this in a shorter odd 878 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: or a caddy with tremendous experience at the Old Course, 879 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: or with some experience at the Old Course, because the 880 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: site lines at this place are so tough, like knowing 881 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: where to hit the ball, even with all the infrastructure 882 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: built up, with the with the scoreboard, you know, my 883 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: guys telling me all right, see the TV tower, hit 884 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: it there, see the leader board hit it there, Like 885 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: that made it a little easier because everything so flat, 886 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: can't really tell that, and you can't tell where's you know, 887 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: where are my landing this? And and some of the 888 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: t shots. You can't see all the bunkers that are 889 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: out there. And let me just tell you, like I 890 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: complained about being in bunkers here in the in the 891 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: in the U S when I played golf, I will 892 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: never complain again in my entire life. Every bunker I 893 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: went in Scotland, not one ball rolls to the bottom 894 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: of the bunker and to you know, to the flat 895 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: spot there either if you just roll in there on 896 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: the down slope, or if you hit it too far, 897 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: you know they stop on the UPFLI you were in, Um, 898 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: I didn't get in many. Now Pat went in just 899 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: about every bunker you could be in. Pat went in 900 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: the one we played CARNWSTI too and Pat went in 901 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: the one Carnwsty Is it like number sixteen? Um, what 902 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: do they call it Hell's bunker or something like that. 903 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: He was in that one and did not get it 904 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: out and led to like three shots. But they're all 905 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: like that. So I think a guy with some experience 906 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: at the old course, a guy that's got a caddy 907 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: with some experience at the old course, a hell of 908 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: a short game. It's a hell of a short game needed, 909 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: like and and it's creativity. It's imagination, Um, that's all required. 910 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: And a guy with a temperament that can handle when 911 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,479 Speaker 1: you just get a shitty bounce. You hit a great 912 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: shot and you just get a shitty bounce. Because that 913 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: happened all the time. I learned quickly when you're in Scotland, 914 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: you keep your mouth off that golf shot until that 915 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: ball has stopped. You don't say good shot to your buddy. 916 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: You don't say like, you don't say, man, that's perfect. 917 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: You don't take your eye off of it. There's no 918 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: there's no hit it and then a quick t pick 919 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: up because you know it's good. Now you watch that 920 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: thing until it stops, because how hard? How hard is 921 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: the ground so firm? And my caddie told me. My 922 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: caddy was like, dude, when you guys leave, when they 923 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: shut it down, all they're do in his brown in 924 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,479 Speaker 1: this place out, Like the whole plan is to bake 925 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 1: this thing and brown it out. And I can't imagine 926 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: it being it was any golf course that I played 927 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: in Scotland that week that week was firmer than any 928 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: golf course I've ever played in my life here in 929 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: the US. And they're gonna make it firmer. So you're 930 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: gonna have weird balances. You're gonna have bad balances. Do 931 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: you even take a divot? When you like hit like 932 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: a you know, five iron, you take it, not a 933 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 1: five iron, um eight iron. I didn't see a pitch 934 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: mark the whole trip, not one pitch mark the whole trip. 935 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: Didn't matter what you hit into it. Um, it's just firm. 936 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: So I think guys like Scottie Scheffler and guys like 937 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: camp Smith. Guys were good, you know, good short game creativity, 938 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: even killed, even tempered, aren't gonna lose it on a 939 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: bad break. Scottie, I think I think Ted Scott has 940 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: been a weapon for Scottie Scheffler. Ted Scott on the 941 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 1: bag has been a weapon. So I think he's another 942 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: one to look out for if you're talking some of 943 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: those shorter odds up there. Sane Shane Lowry Lowry, Yeah, 944 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean he's been playing really good. I think he 945 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: disappointed a lot of people with the US Open, right, 946 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: but he fits the you know, he fits the profile 947 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,439 Speaker 1: for sure. And you know we're not even talking about 948 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: the win. I mean, the wind is definitely a factor. 949 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: So the guys that hit it out of the center 950 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 1: of the club face every time and control their distance 951 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: is key. But it's also so what about the shorter 952 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: hitters like the Harmon's and the Kisseners. Kids are kind 953 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 1: of gotta go in a little bit. I think last week, 954 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, those guys can compete because the ball is 955 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna roll so far, Like it's gonna it's gonna roll 956 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: so much. I mean I was hitting like three yard 957 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: drives on some of these on some of these holes 958 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 1: we played, if you hit it right on the little 959 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, just go down slope, right on the perfect 960 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: little spot on the fairway, it just never stopped. So 961 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: these big hitters are gonna be able to hit four 962 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: irons three yards low the low potential, and we'll see 963 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: what kind of conditions we get. I mean, hopefully it's windy, 964 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: but I know that it will be firm. That's that 965 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: was their whole goal. They shut down a month ahead 966 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: of time. They're they're shut down now. Their goal is 967 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: to make that place brown and fast, firm. So the 968 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 1: wind gets going, it could be diabolical. Yeah, I mean 969 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: it's it's just and if it doesn't, they could dominate. 970 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: It is gonna be a lot of It's gonna be 971 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: highly variable. If the wind gets it's just gonna you know, 972 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: we know this about the open right, the wave vantages 973 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: the wave. You know, there's the one more cow one. 974 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't that windy, and that would like here in 975 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: the way you talk about it, like do you like 976 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: a more cow at of course, like this doesn't feel 977 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: quite like scares me a little bit. But the ball 978 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: striking obviously carries wherever he goes. Like the ball striking 979 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: is great wherever, but the short game is still a 980 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 1: little you know, like the kids say Suss. I don't 981 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: know if they still say that, but you know it's 982 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: a little suss so like him and like a Victor Hovelin. 983 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: To me, scares me a little bit, even with the 984 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 1: great ball striking, just because you have to be so 985 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: good around those greens and out of those bunkers and 986 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: all the undulation that we've already talked about. I'm telling you, 987 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: it's so much. I know Jordan has missed a million 988 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: shot putts, but it sounds like I mean, his ball 989 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: striking in a short game, you know, in terms of 990 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: his wedges. Yeah, if his putter, dude, I don't know 991 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: what's going on with that butter. But we'll see if 992 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: he plays. I don't know if he's playing the Scottish 993 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: this week or not. Um, I'd be interested to see 994 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: if he's playing the Scottish and if he gets the 995 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: putter working a little bit better. Yeah, it feels like 996 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna be, especially for DFS and then a lot 997 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: of people on Camp Smith Scott a Scheffler, Tho's gonna 998 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: be popular players. Yeah, we'll see. I think camp Smith 999 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 1: my you know, he disappointed at the at the US Open. 1000 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, people may off maybe wearing thin on 1001 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: camp Smith Elder. Is it an easy walk, Yeah, I 1002 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: think he could. Yes, yes, it's not a hard walk. Um. 1003 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: I mean listen, he's gonna know that place like the 1004 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: back of his hand is a favorite course. And that's 1005 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: something else, like he's not gonna have to rip you know, 1006 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean at Augusta, like you have to rip driver something, 1007 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, especially now, Yeah, you have to contend. If 1008 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 1: you want to contend, you have to do that. He's 1009 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 1: not gonna have to do that. I don't think of 1010 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: the Open. He can hit those little stingers. He can 1011 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: hit a smooth driver three wood here and there. Um. 1012 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: And it's all about the knowledge of force, knowledge of creativity, 1013 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: the shot making and the and the short game. Like 1014 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: I think, I think you noticed that Southern Hills and 1015 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: I know he was struggling, but like right now, his 1016 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 1: first Thursday, Tiger was hitting all these irons like Tiger, 1017 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: this isn't oh eight. And I'm not trying to call 1018 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: him out like he's the greatest golf strateg as ever, 1019 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: and then by Friday, when he just grinded out to 1020 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: make the cut, he was pulling Driver and he even 1021 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,080 Speaker 1: kind of admitted, like, you know, strategy, well, Tiger, you 1022 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 1: don't spray the ball with the technology like you would 1023 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: have been oh six the heads. It's way different. You 1024 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: can can even you can just play this fade three 1025 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: ten down the pipe. You have to hit drivers from 1026 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: moving forward. I wonder if Tiger you can't really play 1027 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: the little plotted around like that's not how these guys 1028 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: are playing anymore. This bombs away. Yeah, And I think 1029 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: that's probably one reason why he avoided, you know, the 1030 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: PGMUS also Open, like he you know, he's had he's 1031 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 1: had the Open Championships circled obviously because it's a hundred 1032 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: and fiftieth and it's back at St. Andrew's. That that 1033 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: means a lot to him, for sure, But I also 1034 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: think it's because it's it's the only other major, probably 1035 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: the major that he had the best chance to really contend. 1036 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: He's forty one two one on vandel right now, what 1037 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: about and I know he's had a kind of a 1038 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 1: weird season and he's live, but like Kepta, uh, I mean, 1039 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 1: you like any of the live guys at this place. Um, 1040 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't even know if DJ even pays attention anymore. 1041 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: I actually think DJs DJ would be the one. I'd 1042 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: be well read. I mean, he read is interesting to me. Yeah, 1043 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 1: he read is intr thing. Not a prison place. Probably 1044 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: not a prison place. Um, now Reid is probably the guy. 1045 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know, uh what about all 1046 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: the Euros? Will they be comfortable there? Yeah? Yeah, Westwood's Poulters. 1047 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a place of these older guys like Westwood, 1048 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: and those guys could contend. Um, I don't. I don't 1049 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: think i'd bet them, but I think they could be 1050 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: in the they could be in the conversation. Come on 1051 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: the weekend. Yeah, it's I can't wait. It's been. It's 1052 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 1: actually been a pretty incredible major year. All the Majors 1053 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: have been fantastic. I guess the Masters, you know, it 1054 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: got interesting, you know on Sunday, but Tiger added such 1055 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 1: an element it was so cool. But the last two 1056 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: Majors have just been knockdown, drag out, high level, intense courses. 1057 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: And that's I think. Sometimes these guys are so good now, 1058 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: like it's enjoyable to watch. I'd say even to you know, 1059 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: minus five range, because you just it's hard for them 1060 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: to Bertie. You know, I've seen these guys driver five 1061 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 1: iron on six yard, you know part five. I don't 1062 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: like to see these guys struggle. Yes, it's enjoyable. I 1063 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: do too. I mean I think, yeah, I wish we 1064 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: had more of the you know, these difficult courses, difficult 1065 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 1: setups on the PGA Tour. I don't think we need 1066 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: a lot of them, but I wish we had a 1067 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: few more sprinkled in. Uh, you know, the the a 1068 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: t T Byron Nelson twenty six unders kind of kind 1069 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: of get a little old after after a little while. 1070 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: But was it? What was the one Scotty? It was 1071 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: the Arnold Palmer Scotty when the armed Palmer that was 1072 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 1: playing hard him when ap I can play tough. Yeah, 1073 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 1: that place like a beast. Terrible golf course. I played 1074 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: it last fall. Very forgettable golf course if you didn't 1075 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 1: have all the army stuff. Very forgettable. I had a 1076 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: tour player tell me that, like it was in like 1077 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: Tiger's kind of era. He's like, you know Tiger hated 1078 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: that course. Yeah, I'm like, well, he wanted all the 1079 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: time they're like, well, yeah, he was obligated to play 1080 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: because Arnold, so he's like, I might as well win it. 1081 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: He despised that place. I think that's something very unique 1082 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: to Tiger, because I don't know that there's many guys 1083 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: on the PJ two or that can hate a golf 1084 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: course like that and then just decide to win it. 1085 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: One thing someone brought up to me, which is not 1086 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: going to work in the tours favor I'll get you 1087 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: out here on this is that Arnold Palmer and you 1088 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: see you see memorial. I mean Jack, let's face it, 1089 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean every year he looks dramatically older Byron Nelson 1090 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: for a while. All these guys used to go to 1091 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: those three tournaments to pay and respect right to those 1092 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: guys would be like if John Elway, Joe Montana and 1093 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: Dan Marino adds like, but Arnod Palmer's not there anymore, 1094 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 1: and look at the field Byron Nelson like he's long gone. 1095 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 1: Look at the field once. Jack goes like, are all 1096 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna play? The more? They? I think 1097 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: they do for a year or two after they pass, 1098 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: but then it dilutes immediately. So a huge Those three 1099 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: tournaments were huge I mean think Tiger. I mean obviously 1100 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,879 Speaker 1: was huge on those three places, and but he kind 1101 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: of represents like where star players would go. And if 1102 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: that starts happening, this is again where Greg Norman. He's 1103 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 1: like the shark circle in the boat right now. I mean, 1104 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: the younger they get, the less and less they care, 1105 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: the less memory's they have about Byron Nelson or Arnie 1106 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 1: or Jack. I mean it's just that's just think about 1107 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: Pebble Beach. I mean, no one shows up beside Jordan 1108 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: because that's a sponsor. They all go international. Yeah, it's 1109 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: a terrible event. Now, I mean Tiger is the key here. 1110 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: We didn't really talk a lot about him as it 1111 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: pertains to live, but obviously the silver bullet and a 1112 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: lot of this could be if Tiger would step out 1113 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: and and advocate for the PGA four and come out 1114 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: and just basically ripped, ripped live a new one. Um, 1115 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: that could be the silver bullet that stops all of 1116 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: this thing. But I think anything short of that and 1117 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: we're all kind of probably looking at a fragmented golf 1118 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: world for at least the immediate future, which doesn't sound 1119 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: like a lot of fun. His pressor is gonna be 1120 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: must watch the Open because he's he hasn't talked about 1121 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,720 Speaker 1: it since whatever the PGA, and not as much had happened. 1122 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: Right now, they've had several events, all these guys have defected. 1123 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: They're all gonna be there. Tiger was I thought, I 1124 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: think it was at the pg A kind of ripped 1125 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: Phil and I mean it's be you know, was Tiger 1126 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: to lose. Now he doesn't. He's kind of like kind 1127 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,439 Speaker 1: of loosened up. Honestly, Tiger could just let it rip. 1128 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: That's what I would imagine. Jay wants him to let 1129 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: it rip. There just gonna get the questions Jason. Jay 1130 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: sending him, you know, uh damn you know edible arrangements 1131 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: every week asking him to go ahead and and rip 1132 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: rip Norman and new one. Hey man, John Middlecof. This 1133 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: is a lot of fun, love talking to you. Everybody 1134 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: needs to check out the three and Out podcasts and 1135 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: uh all that John's doing over there on Colin Cowher's network. 1136 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm a big Colin Cowherd fan. I used to listening 1137 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: to him back in the day a long time ago. Though, 1138 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 1: Collins the man. We gotta we gotta get him more 1139 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 1: on the golf course, but he's I think he's in 1140 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 1: Turks and Caicos right now. I live in the life, 1141 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: so it must be nice. Yeah, So thanks for coming on. 1142 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: Love to have you back on and let's do Yeah. 1143 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, man, keep it, keep rocking and rolling 1144 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: and love what you guys do. Man, appreciate you. Thanks 1145 00:52:47,160 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: John One the volume