1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, twenty two year old Gabby Petito. 2 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Where is she in the last hours of breaking news 3 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: in the search for Gabby Petito Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 4 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: First of all, I want to introduce to you a 5 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: very special guest joining us. For those of you that 6 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: do not know him, Gabby's father, Joseph Petito, is with us. 7 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Mister Petito. Thank you for being with us. Thank you, 8 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: mister Petito. We have all feel like we're searching for 9 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Gabby too. We will go through all of the facts 10 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 1: leading up to this moment, but in my mind, there 11 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: are two breaking issues right now. Number One, we are 12 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 1: learning of an August twelve incident in Moab, Utah where 13 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: someone called police and police arrived at the location about 14 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: an incident between Gabby, your girl and her boyfriend laundry. 15 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: They left. They said there was not an insufficient evidence 16 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: to make any arrest. What was the call about? Was 17 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: there some kind of an argument. I need to be 18 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: honest with you. I don't know, Listen, I I don't 19 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: have information. I just started, you know online as well. 20 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Gabby didn't let me know about that. But you're not 21 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: gonna tell your dad something like that, because what a 22 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: dad's gonna do. I'm gonna jump in my car. I'm 23 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna drive down there, and I'm gonna situation right. You're 24 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: not gonna handle you. She's not gonna tell me that 25 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: unless you unless you needed me too. So I honestly 26 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: can't speak. I do not know right. We are also 27 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: learning that the so called boyfriend, Brian Laundry, has been 28 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: named a person of interest according to Florida Police. Let 29 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: me just start at the beginning for those of you 30 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: just joining us with me. Is Gabby's father, Joseph Petito. Everyone, 31 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to this. An emotional 32 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: mother holding onto a photo of her daughter is desperate 33 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: for her to come home. Scary and nerve wracking. We 34 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: don't sleep, We're just actively looking for her. Gabby Petito's 35 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: family reported her missing Saturday to Suffolk County Police. The 36 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: twenty two year old of Blue Point was on a 37 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: cross country road trip, but kept in touch with her 38 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: mom at least three times a week, move in FaceTime, 39 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: called text frequently. She kept me updated on this whole trip. 40 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: Her mother says. They last phase timed about three weeks ago. 41 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: The last text she received was on August thirtieth. The 42 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: first couple of days, I wasn't getting responses. I believe 43 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: she was in a place with no service. Um. It took. 44 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: It was like day eight to nine that I really 45 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: became concerned. You were hearing our friends at CBS two. 46 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: That was Jenna Dangeli speaking to Gabby's mom back to 47 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: her dad joining us. Mister Petito, mister Petito, what did 48 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: you think when your daughter first told you she was 49 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: going on a cross country trip with our boyfriend. I 50 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: protected dad, No, I really I didn't like the idea, 51 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, but I'm not one. She's a crown woman. 52 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: You know. She has to make her choices, you know, 53 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: and I'm going to support her choices. You know. That's 54 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: that's what her father is supposed to do. And that's 55 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: what I did. That's what her mom did, you know. 56 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: And we offered to help in any way and that 57 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: we can. And she, you know, she did it right, 58 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: dude too. She had a she had an itinerary, she 59 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: had a plan. She I mean, she did everything she's 60 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: supposed to do before even heading out. You know. It's 61 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: not like, oh, we're gonna go do this, let's just 62 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: do now, let's jump in a car and go. That's 63 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: not how this was. They planned it for a while, 64 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: and according to the neighbors and where they lived, they 65 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: had worked and worked and worked converting that forward transit 66 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: into really a pretty nice travel van a camper. They 67 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: really planned the whole thing out, including redoing the entire vehicle. 68 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this was a big trip and they planned hard. 69 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: I've looked and looked and looked at the videos that 70 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: she was posting about their trip, and I've said it 71 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: reminds me of one of those shows on HGTV where 72 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: you see people traveling in campers. I mean, she did 73 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: a beautiful job on the inside of it. This is 74 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: a very well planned trip. How often was she staying 75 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: in touch with you? We would always talk, you know, 76 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: I would talk to her once, you know, twice a week. 77 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: Her mom she talked two three times a week. My kids. 78 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: You know, she's talking too often on a mom's side. 79 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: She still up to her brothers and sisters often. I 80 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: got I got nieces and nephews that she would and 81 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: family friends she constantly be in contact with. So she 82 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: was always contacting us and talking to us and you know, 83 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: letting us know what she did. And where she's headed. 84 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: It's not like you know, um, we didn't hear for 85 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: her at three weeks old. And by the way I 86 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: did this, this and this, we knew where she was headed. 87 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: You know, we knew what she was doing. When did 88 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: you realize something was wrong? And we stopped hearing from her? 89 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: You know it Usually you know, she'll call me, she 90 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: talked to her mom, she'll call my son, you know 91 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: what I mean. Someone always heard from her. Then we 92 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: started asking questions if you talked to Gabby, if you 93 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: talk to Gabby, you know, and they more and more 94 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: we got concerned. On Thursday, I guess the eighth. I 95 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: think it's the eighth, ninth, maybe ninth, I don't know. 96 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: That's of September. We still did really you know, be 97 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: like listen, we got we got to figure something out here. 98 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: And then we waited to the tenth dude, and then 99 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: we started, I mean the yeah, whatever the Friday was, 100 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't know the exact day, and we started to 101 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: we put it. We tried to do the missing person report. 102 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: I started in North Porth, Florida because that was the 103 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: place of residence. They said you have to go to Utah, 104 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: which is the last place I thought she was seen 105 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: at that point in time, and Utah's telling me it's 106 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: got to be your place of residence. So it really 107 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: took twenty four hours. And I was begging, you know, 108 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: I may have threatened, you know, doing to do anything 109 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: to get the missing report files so we can start 110 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: looking for her. And it was an amazing detective by 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: the name of Tracy who um took Nikki seriously and 112 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: put the report in and that's how we got to 113 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: where we are. Nikki is Gabby's mom, um Schmidt, Nicole Nicolon. 114 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: I understand that it's been reported originally, you were blown 115 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: off that nobody took the claim seriously. And I've got 116 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: to say, James Shelnutt joining me twenty seven years Mutro 117 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: a major case now lawyer. That drives me crazy no end. 118 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: When a woman is reported missing and the family or 119 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: the reporter gets to run around, they got the run 120 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: around for twenty four hours. Are you serious? She lives 121 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: in Florida, she's missing, and Florida says, go to Utah. Well, yeah, 122 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: I gotta I got outside looking in. I'm sure policies 123 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: like that makes sense, but when you're emotionally invested, into it. 124 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: There are things that just don't make sense, you know, 125 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: and you really like, how come they can't do something? 126 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Or how come they can't talk to someone? And when 127 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: you're emotionally invested, you like, I don't get it. But 128 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: when you're not, and you you know, outside looking in, 129 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: and there are reasons for it. So I'm sure, but 130 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: we didn't. We were able to find help because we 131 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: weren't stopping. But she was ultimately reported me saying there 132 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: in Florida. No, no, the missing person report came out 133 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: of South A County, New York. Okay, yes, that makes 134 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: sense as well, but not Utah Time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, 135 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: we were talking to Gabby Petito's father joining us, Joseph Petito. 136 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: So after about twenty four hours and back and forth, 137 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: you get her reported missing. When did you learn that 138 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: her boyfriend, Brian Laundry had come home. I still haven't 139 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: learned when he came home. When did you learn he 140 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: was home and the van was home? He was safe 141 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: and sound. The van is safe and sound, but there's 142 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: no sign of Gabby. When did you learn he was home? 143 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna speak to when I learned 144 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: of it? To be honest with there's investigation and stuff, 145 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let the FBI and the sheriffs and 146 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: the police handle all that. You have. People are all 147 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: around the country working tartly an amazing by the way. 148 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: I just want to say, they have been awesome, you know, 149 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: keeping me up to date, keeping me, you know, abreast 150 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: of what they're doing. They're keeping stuff close to the vest. 151 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: It's an investigation. I get it, but they've been awesome. 152 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: But I really, you know, it's just about finding her. 153 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: You know, if he's not going to cooperate or he's 154 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: going to talk or sit in the background, which I 155 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: don't get, you know, it's still be it. You know. 156 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: Do you remember when you found out he was home 157 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: when the van was safe? I do remember. But I'm again, 158 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to speak to it because it is 159 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: it's an open investigation, and to be honest with you, 160 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because at the moment, she's not here. Okay, 161 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: tell me about the search for her. Now, I understand 162 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: that a search is going on in the Teton's nyming name. 163 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say again, you know what, because I 164 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: don't want to hinder any type of search parties and stuff. 165 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to say where, but there are 166 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: searches going on and until I'm allowed to. You know, 167 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: the FBI says, you know what, Joe, here you go. 168 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 1: You can say this done. I got no issues with it. 169 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I'll say it. I think yesterday I got a little 170 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: emotional when I heard there. I heard their statement and uh, 171 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I spoke to the FBI afterwards, and 172 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, you know what, I apologize. 173 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: I'll keep I'll try and keep my emotions born in check. 174 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: When you heard the Laundry state is to be honest. 175 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: That was the statement. That was four lines to crack. 176 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: But you know, hey, what do I know if you 177 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: if you, if you honestly wish for her to come home? 178 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: All right? They cool? You know what, Let's sit down. 179 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: I was asking questions. Maybe you got answers, maybe you don't, 180 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: but there's a way to find out, right, so talk 181 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: to us. What's up? No, they got I got nothing right, 182 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: So I gotta do what I can. Mister Potito. What 183 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: did the statement say? Well, let's say what was line one? 184 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Line one is this is very hard for the Potito 185 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: family and the Laundry family. Well, then you know what 186 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: it's all about. A second it maybe it is hard 187 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: having reporters at your house and and your block kind 188 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: of shut down. I don't know. You know, that's not 189 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: how happening to me. So maybe that is done. I 190 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: can't tell you, But I know what I can tell 191 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: you is that their son is in their home. They 192 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: know exactly where they where he is. I got a 193 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: child that's nowhere to be found. I don't even know 194 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: what state to start it. So don't tell me it's hard, 195 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: all right, because I guarantee you I'll tell you what 196 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: Oswitch place is. What you're right now? What would they 197 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: rather do? So the first line is it's hard on 198 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: the Potito family and the Laundry family. What was the 199 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: second line? The second line is talking about the I 200 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: think it was. I'm pretty sure I was talking about 201 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: there's an open investigation or a search party in Wyoming 202 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: and stuff. So you know that I didn't have an 203 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: issue with the second line other than the fact that 204 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: says we're gonna stay in the background, or whatever line 205 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: that was or wherever it came out, You're gonna stay 206 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: in the background. Just good, you love, and you're gonna 207 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: stay in the background. Can you just travel the country 208 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: with this girl for two months and you're gonna stay 209 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: in the background. You say you love her. I'll tell 210 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: you what. I've been married to my wife twenty one year. 211 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been with my wife twenty one years, 212 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: married sixteen years. If she needs me, I'm there no 213 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: matter what. I hope to be there before she even 214 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: says I need you, and we're beg You got family 215 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: members begging, and you're gonna stay in the background. I'm sorry. 216 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: Does anybody take that seriously that you care? Then? Did 217 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: anyone in the panel? I'm asking everyone on your panel 218 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: right now, any of you take that seriars do you 219 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: think they care if she's missing? If they're gonna stay 220 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: in the background and not help, ask me. I think 221 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: they care that their son doesn't get in trouble. I 222 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: think they care about that, and they would like her 223 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: found so they're someone't get in trouble. I think that's 224 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: what they care about, because if they cared about finding Gabby, 225 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: he the fiance, the boyfriend would be saying, this is 226 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: the last time I saw her. We got into a fight, 227 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: she got out of the van, I drove off. That 228 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: was that she said she didn't want to be with me, 229 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: or she fell off a cliff, or she wanted to 230 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: go with this other group, or I left her at 231 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: this hotel in Salt Lake City. Tell me something. If 232 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: they wanted to help find her, they would at least 233 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: say where she was last saying. That's how I see it, 234 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: mister potato. If you listen, if you're gonna get an 235 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: attorney because you're afraid, no, listen, maybe there are scenarios 236 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: where he did nothing wrong. There are scenarios, and you 237 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: got to get an attorney just to make sure you 238 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: don't get a trapped something that you're not responsible for. 239 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I got no issues 240 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: with that. But I'll tell you what the attorney's gonna do. 241 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna talk to you and they're gonna sit next 242 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: to you as you tell the police your story, and 243 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: they'll they'll shut down any questions that you know. They 244 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: don't want you to answer it because the an attorney 245 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: is supposed to be smart, not this guy, but it 246 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: is supposed to be smart, you know. So they'll protect 247 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: you to make sure that you're okay. But at least 248 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: you're answering questions did you haven't gotten you know, excuse me, 249 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: what time is it? And you haven't gotten an answer. 250 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: So no, no, you can't tell me you care. You 251 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: can't tell me you care, not even a little bit. 252 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: I understand that either your your ex Nicole Schmidt, that's 253 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: Gabby's mother, reached out to the law family to try 254 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: to speak to them and find out where Gabby was 255 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: last alive. And nobody is calling back. Nobody's giving in 256 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: any information. No return phone calls, no emails, no text nothing. 257 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: We've been doing that since Friday, since Friday. I think 258 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: we did the report on Saturday, Thursday night and the 259 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: Friday all day Friday. We will call him on all 260 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: of them. I had a friend of mine getting me 261 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: the siblings phone numbers, Dad's phone number. No one responded. 262 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: I still haven't responded. Just an FYI. I used to 263 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: look at unanswered calls and texting my phone from them. 264 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. Why why they can't tell you 265 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: where he was last with her? You know, I don't 266 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: understand it either, But it's irrelevant at the moment. At 267 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: the moment, yeah, you're right, all that matters is how 268 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: can we help find Gabby? For those of you listening. 269 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: The tip line is eight hundred two two zero eight 270 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: four to seven to seven repeat eight hundred two two 271 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: zero eight four seven seven. Gabby Potito is twenty two beautiful, 272 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: five five, one hundred ten pounds, blonde, here, blue eyes, 273 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: triangle tattoo on one arm. Let it be tattoo on 274 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: the other arm, and she is a nature lover. I 275 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: would be looking for her at campgrounds, at r V 276 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: camp grounds, mister Botito, I just took my twins, who 277 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: are thirteen now, last summer during COVID, on this exact 278 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: trip from the Tetons to Yellowstone and all the way 279 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: back to the Eastern seaboard, and it's very treacherous. It's 280 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: very dangerous territory. There's a lot of land for them 281 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: to cover. But I would start, I think at campgrounds 282 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: and r V grounds and national parks. Yeah, yeah, anywhere 283 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: it isn't you know what. Here's what I ask every 284 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: one of your listeners, every one of your viewers, go 285 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: look online. It's full of your your peach, you know, 286 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: just look at pictures of her. Look at the tattoos 287 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: she's got, look at her facial features, you know, memorize them. 288 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm begging you. I'm begging, I'm begging you, Nancy, keep 289 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: them up. As long as you can memorize her face, 290 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: memorize her tattoos. When you're walking down the street, when 291 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: you're hiking a path where it doesn't matter, you know, 292 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: if you see something, call the tip line. Let let 293 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: the FBI and the police and the sheriff's handle all 294 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: their tips. I got they have people trained to comb 295 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: through all of them and get the good ones that 296 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: that are factual. Please, I just will that. That's That's 297 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: the only thing I can ask of your listeners and 298 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: your viewers. Please look at her picture. Please memorize her 299 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: face if you if you want, go to her her 300 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: Instagram or her for her YouTube videos whatever they are, 301 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: and and and and listen to her voice. Look at 302 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: her mannerisms, the way she walks, the way she holds 303 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: herself up, you know, and and and and and when 304 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: if you see someone that looks like that, I'm begging you, 305 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: begging you, please call the tip line. I can't I 306 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: can't implore that enough. I need we we will all 307 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: need her home. I mean, we're we're we're a close family. 308 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace, mister Potito question to you. 309 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: I understand the last actual signing of her was in Ogden, Utah. 310 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: Is that correct? No? I think the last time she 311 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: was seen was in the Grand Featons of Wyoming. Now 312 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: since then we haven't had contact with it. She there 313 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: were some you know, some pictures I guess with the 314 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: butterfly wings, which was in Ogden Uta or one of 315 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: those pictures of jev on our instagram was in But 316 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: the last time she was known to be in was 317 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: a Grand Teaton. So but that's the problem. That's the 318 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: that's the crux of it, right When you say non 319 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: to be in, was she actually seen there? Yes? So 320 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: that's that's and that's why that's why you know Jim's 321 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: over in Wyoming now you know so. But that's that's 322 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: too that Nancy. That's the biggest issue right now, right 323 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: is the laundry. Sun is home in their house and 324 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: I don't even know exactly what state or where to start. 325 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: I mean he's in Florida. They were in Utah, I 326 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: mean Wyoming, right, So that means I could you go 327 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: get in the map. We've got twenty three day drives anywhere. 328 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I did. We went through 329 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: every place, and I'm holding it up right now because 330 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: I know you can't see me everywhere. We know they've 331 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: stopped in routes in between, and there are a lot 332 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: of them. This is a really long cross country east 333 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: to west route. And mister Patito was saying, it's like 334 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: a needle in a haystaate. They don't really know where 335 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: to even start looking. Boy, I need everybody, mister Patito. 336 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: Is it like her at all to just go off 337 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: on her own, to be angry at the boyfriend, go 338 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: off on her go camping. Has she ever done that 339 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: before and been out of touch with you or No, Nicole, No, 340 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: she's twenty two. She's not independently wealthy, you know how, No, 341 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: not at all. I mean i'd send her money. You know, 342 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: I spoke to her on the twenty first. I sent 343 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: her food, not that she needed it and stuff, but 344 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: just make sure she had it. You know, at some 345 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: point she's gonna need to talk to somebody, or someone's 346 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: gonna have to see her, or she's gonna, you know, 347 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: need money for food. You know, he took the van home, 348 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: so you know, what is she doing for shelter yet? 349 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So No, this is not 350 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: like her. She know she's in trouble. She spent to 351 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: her on August twenty one. I last face timed her 352 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: on August twenty first. Yes, and did you say you 353 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: sent her food? I did? I did. She was having 354 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: connection issues with ordering food, so I was like, I 355 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: got you, no worries and I sent her food. It's 356 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: my daughter, it's my only daughter. To where in Utah. 357 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: She was in Salt Lake City, Utah. And I understand 358 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: that she checked out of that hotel on the twenty fifth. No, 359 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: I believe it was the twenty fourth. Yes, you're right, 360 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: it was the twenty fourth. What did you send her? 361 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: Aber eight? I actually ordered her Domino through my Domino's app, 362 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, and got right to her and they were 363 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: talking that she was eating. She was telling me exactly, 364 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, what was going on with her trip where 365 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: she was headed. I helped her with some she had 366 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: some technical issues with the nomadic statics page or whatever 367 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: it was for her setting up an email. So I 368 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: was helping her walk through that. So I mean, no 369 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: red flank stick out nothing, nothing, you know, and you know, 370 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: no no signs of distress or trouble, nothing like that. 371 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: At all. Just for one moment, you reminded me of 372 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: the closest person in the world ever to me, and 373 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: that was my dad. And just thinking of you ordering 374 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: her Domino's long distance just really hit me. You're so 375 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: incredibly close to her. Has she ever got on this 376 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: long without talking to you, not even a little bit, 377 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Not even her mom, Jim, Jim, her stepfather. Jim is 378 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: an amazing dude, amazing You know my, you know, my, my, my, 379 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: my wife Tara and Gabby's mom Nicole have gone out 380 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: together with Gabby. You know it's it wasn't you know. 381 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: We didn't play against each other. We never used Gabby 382 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: as a pawn. It's we're gonna do what's best for 383 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: our child, that is it. Jim loves her like he was, 384 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: like she was his own. My wife loves Gabby, and 385 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 1: she's got Gabby's got the choice. I mean, she's got 386 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: two families that absolutely love her as if they were 387 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: her own. Six She's she's one of she's the oldest 388 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: of six, and they're all close. You know that the 389 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: two separate families didn't matter to to to us and 390 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: to Jim and Niggy. You know, when it came to Gabby. 391 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: We were all one. I mean, come on, you can't 392 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: ask for better than that. She's well. If you could 393 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: reach out right now to Brian lott Laundry and his family, 394 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: what would your message be, first and foremost? Tell me, 395 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's answer some questions that are we 396 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: Are we in the right spot? You know, I don't 397 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: care about the other stuff right now. I don't give 398 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: a damn because it means nothing to me. If my 399 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: daughter's not here. All right, Gabby had the tattoo on 400 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: her forearm, let it be right, so right now, let 401 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: that stuff be help us, help us. I don't even 402 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: care right now because at the end of the day, 403 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: if if I don't have my daughter, what it does 404 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: the matter? You know, But they're not helping. So we're 405 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: doing everything we can. Mister Patito, did Brian Laundry board 406 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: a plane around August seventeen eighteen and fly home for 407 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: a week? I can't. I can't discuss that. You know, 408 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: there's there's like I said, there's an investigation. I'm not 409 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: going to give okay stuff like that until I'm told 410 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: to mister Pottito, what's your message to Gabby now? And 411 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: for those people searching for her, call us, try and 412 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: you know it grabs somebody's phone and call us, you know, uh, 413 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: send flair, try and get in touch with someone you know, 414 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: Try and sick and send a signal out so we 415 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: can come to welcome get I don't care. In minutes, minutes, 416 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: I will be there. I don't care. You know, we 417 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: got people all over this country looking for her, and 418 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: everybody you know, I'll tell you so you know that 419 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: doesn't get enough credit. Social media has a really bad 420 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: stick about being horrible. And I'll tell you it has 421 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: been unbelievable, how amazing. Everybody is unbelievable. Everybody's sharing, everybody's 422 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: doing everything they can. Everybody cares. Maybe they have their 423 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: own personal interest in it, but at the end of 424 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: the day, they're looking for her, and that's all I 425 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: care about. So I'll tell you it's been amazing and 426 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: I need for that to keep happening till she comes home. 427 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: So anyone that's listening, please keep sharing. Put up the 428 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: tip line number, you know, so people can, you know, 429 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: memorize it, because we got to get her home and 430 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: that's all I'm begging for that. That tip line number 431 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: is eight hundred two two to eight four seven seven 432 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: repeat eight hundred two to zero eight four seven seven 433 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: two two zero eight four seven seven With me is 434 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: Gabby's father, Joseph Petito making a heart felt plea to 435 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: everyone to look for Gabby. Mister Petito, thank you. Crime 436 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. We will now bring in the 437 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: rest of our all Start panel to try and make 438 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: sense of the facts that they are developing right now. 439 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: James Shellnut with me twenty seven years metro in major 440 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: case now shell Nut Law Firm. Doctor Angela Arnold renounce psychiatris, 441 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: joining me out of the Atlanta jurisdiction at Angela Arnold, 442 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: MD dot com. Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of 443 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, star of a hit 444 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: series Piked and Masker on Aren't Joe Scott Morgan, Mike 445 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: King joining me, the host of Profiling Evil on YouTube, 446 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: former cop there in Ogden, Utah, and Andrea Olsen East 447 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: Idaho News dot com. You can find her at news 448 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: with Angrea Mike King. First to you, former cop in Ogden, Utah. 449 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: What do you make of the call from we believe 450 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: to be an anonymous tipster police report in moab Utah 451 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: that there was insufficient evidence. Sounds to me like there 452 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: was a dispute and argument between Gabby and the boyfriend. 453 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: This is on August twelve, and the cops show up 454 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: in leave. But what do you make of it? Yeah, 455 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: sounds like probably a domestic violent situation in the campground. 456 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: Another camper called law enforcement king. Probably both parties refused 457 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: to share any information. Then because of that, then law 458 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: enforcement had to turn around and leave. Really disturbing. It's 459 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: unknown how much a case report was written, how much information, 460 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: whether the witnesses were actually retained so that there could 461 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: be follow up about what the conversation was. So there's 462 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: a lot there that should be followed up on it. 463 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: I wish we knew, but they are not detailing that 464 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: nine on one call. But having been at many mini 465 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: campgrounds and many many RV parks with my children, you 466 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: can here allowed argument and a lot of RB and 467 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: camping sites, some of them you're so far away you can't. 468 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: But obviously something was heard or seen that someone felt 469 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: they had to call police, and police actually showed up 470 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 1: claiming insufficient evidence to make an arrest. That's what we 471 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: are learning right now. We are also learning out to 472 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: Angia Olson Eastidehonews dot Com that Florida police have named 473 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: Brian Laundry a POI person of interest. So to tell 474 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: you honestly, Nancy, this is all fluid information. I've been 475 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: trying to talk to Josh Taylor out of Northport currently. 476 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of new information developing straight out to you. 477 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: Just got Morgan. I agree with mister Petito, Gabby's father's 478 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: that's nothing. What is that? If they care and they 479 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: want to know what happened to her, then why aren't 480 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: they speaking to cops? Why isn't he out looking? Yeah, 481 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Nancy, there's a certain time in 482 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: life where you're on personal self interest is outweighed by 483 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: the needs of a missing girl that's out in the wilderness. 484 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: Essentially that you have no idea what the status of 485 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: her is. If you have any humanity within you at all, 486 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: if you have a soul, get in contact with the 487 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: cops and just give them an indication as to what's 488 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: going on, because the clock is ticking at this point. 489 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: To Jamie Shellnutt, twenty seven years metro major case now 490 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: lawyer at the Shelmut from take a listen to our 491 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: friends at CBS two. They say the inability to speak 492 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: with Laundry is hampering the investigation. They've only been given 493 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: the name of an attorney to ask questions through Laundry's 494 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: attorney here on Long Island. It's a very difficult time 495 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: for both the Petito family and the Laundry family. Stephen 496 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: Bertolino declined comment on Gabby's whereabouts on behalf of the 497 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: Laundry family. I will hope that miss Petito is located 498 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: and that she's reunited with a family. Police say they 499 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: are very concerned for Gabby's well being. The family asked 500 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: for the public to focus on finding her. Out to you, 501 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: James Shelnutt, why can't he at least state where he 502 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: was last with Gabby? Probably because he's concerned that it 503 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: could lead to some type of incriminating information against him, 504 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, when well, if she's alive, and well, what 505 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: could the problem be? Correct? You know, if you know 506 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: some of the things that didn't happen also to bother 507 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: me in this case, and this goes to what you're asking. 508 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: You know, he didn't ask or didn't report to the 509 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: police that she's missing. He's not reached out to the family. 510 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: He's not done any of the things that we would 511 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: normally expect a person to see an investigation if something 512 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: innocent was afoot. And I'm not ready to convict this 513 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: guy yet, but I'm just saying that he is acting 514 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: completely inconsistent with someone who's had a girlfriend just walk 515 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: up and leave, you know. Josica Morgan following on what 516 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: Shelnan is saying, we now know that the National Park 517 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: Service is coordinating with multiple law enforcement agencies as part 518 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: of the investigation to Potito's whereabouts. That is a big, 519 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: a tall order to start searching national parks, But what 520 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: they could do, do you remember, And for instance the 521 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: Laurie Vallo case, there was actually video or steals at 522 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: a parking lot at Yellowstone showing Valo and her brother 523 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: Alex Cox coming in with JJ entirely remember, Yeah, yeah, 524 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna have videography. But another piece to this as 525 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: it applies to the National Park Service is that Nancy, 526 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: you know as well as anybody, there are check in 527 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: points that you have to meet. That's that's at a 528 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: baseline from an investigative standpoint. When you roll through the 529 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: gate at a federal park, you have to check in 530 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: now there's gonna be videography there. But there's also all 531 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: kinds of timestamps that are involved in this. In this world, 532 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: this just this in the fifties, where you just roll in, 533 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: claim a spot, drop some money in a box, and 534 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: call it done. It's not like that anymore. They're gonna 535 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: be little crumbs of evidence all along the way. They're 536 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: gonna give you an ideas to where where they are. Well, 537 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: when you go into a national park like Yellowstone, first 538 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: of all, there's a line you have to go in, 539 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: you have to go through a guard. A lot of 540 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: times they get your tag number, you have to pay 541 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: to get in. There's a lot of clues, just as 542 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: you're saying, to figure out how far geab Be made 543 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: it another issue. Straight to Andrea Olsen East Idaho News 544 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: dot Com. We know that the police were at Laundry's 545 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: home and they left after leaving a pink envelope. What 546 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: was that a subpoena? Yeah, so nobody really seems to 547 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: know what exactly that is, and I'm trying to get 548 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: confirmation on that today. Let me ask you, doctor Angela Arnold. 549 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: I find it interesting that you've got the Florida Police 550 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: the Suffolk County, New York Police. You have the MOA 551 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: police involved, the ODDA police involved, and now the FBI 552 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: is involved into search for Gabby. Let me ask you, 553 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: what does that say to you? And what do you 554 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: think is behind Landry's parents motive in keeping him from police? Nancy, 555 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: this is so ugly as far as I'm concerned, and 556 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: in all of these stories that you do, things don't 557 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: very much. They are keeping him behind closed doors because 558 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: he is guilty of something. And if he is her fiance, 559 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: then why isn't he over what with agony about the 560 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: fact that this girl is missing. The reason is because 561 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: he knows why she's missing. Okay, he is the key 562 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: to everything and somebody. You're right, and I think the 563 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: parent's motive is to keep their own child out of trouble. 564 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: I understand. Mike King, profiling evil host. You may have 565 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: information about the pin Convale. Yes, we actually received the 566 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: note from someone that it was the repair on the 567 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: search warrant that was just being returned for the vehicle. Now, 568 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: I haven't validated that with law enforcement or anything else, 569 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: but that would explain and certainly would fit with law 570 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: enforcement procedures. Mike King hosted profiling evil on YouTube. Former 571 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: cop in Ogden, Utah. Mike, Right now, so much is breaking. 572 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: We have the boyfriend. He is not a fiancee. I've 573 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: clarified that much. The boyfriend has been named a person 574 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: of interest in Florida. We have the National Parks helping 575 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: on the search. The FBI is now involved, which I 576 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: find to be very very telling. What more can you 577 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: tell us? It's unfolding right now. I think as we 578 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: look at the whole behavior of the whole thing, I mean, 579 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: we've got some anchor points. We know that they left 580 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: Arches National Monument in Moab. We have the police call 581 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: a week earlier, we get him to Salt Lake City. 582 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City undoubtedly has him on video checking out 583 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: of the hotel, and we know they left there. We 584 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: know they ended up in Ogden, Utah. All of this 585 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: as it starts to go from jurisdictions as a jurisdiction 586 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: and now state to state, is the reason why we 587 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: see the FBI involved, and now with the search going on, 588 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: it makes me want to think that they may have 589 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: already served some warrants on forensic information on the cell phone, 590 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: and that that's put that up into that area. I 591 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: think the report that I read was that mom had 592 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: actually talked to her on FaceTime or some social media 593 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: outlet in Jackson, so we know that she made it 594 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: to Jackson. Then the next thought was, we were going 595 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: to go to Yellowstone, which is just a short jump 596 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: from Jackson, And so they've got her up in an 597 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: area where they're trying to look at the cell phone 598 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: data and now it's going to just be interesting from 599 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: a forensic case what that leads them to and what 600 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: gives probability of where she was last seeing. Well, I 601 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta say, Nancy, I've really been kind of 602 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: rolling this over in my mind relative to the van 603 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: and how it's being processed. If you're you know, the 604 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: thing about it is they've been living out of this 605 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: van for a protracted period of time, and I know 606 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: your listeners they're thinking DNA, DNA, DNA, and you're absolutely right. 607 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: There will be incidental DNA in that van as a 608 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: result of just day to day living. But some of 609 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: the things that they're going to be looking for are 610 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: things like a sign of a struggle in there, something 611 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: that would be such grievous trauma that she would have 612 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: perhaps blood is in there, tufts of hair, those sorts 613 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: of things that are left behind in a struggle. So 614 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: they're going to have to separate the regular DNA from 615 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: regular life. And what might be brought about is something 616 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: that came about as a result of nefarious activity. What 617 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: about regular things? If you're not going to get a 618 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: tuft of hair? What about if all of her clothes 619 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: were in there? Yeah, and that's another thing, Nancy, you're 620 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: thinking about this wilderness area. What what if just where's 621 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: her camping here, that's still in the van of the 622 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: van and abandoned her in some isolated there is a 623 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: whole bunch of isolated out in that area and just 624 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: left her. We wait as justice unfolds again the tipline 625 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: if you have information about Gabby Potito one eight hundred 626 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: and two two zero eight four seven seven Nancy Grace 627 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: Crime's story, Signing off