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Speaker 1: You are listening waiting on reparations production of I R Radio. Yo, Yo,

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Speaker 1: what's up y'all? This dope knife and we are waiting

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Speaker 1: on reparations? Hurry up, yo. We are the show rich

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Speaker 1: in the gap between hip, pomp and politics. You know

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Speaker 1: how it's been a long time left left you without it? Dope?

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Speaker 1: How know you? I've been good. I've been good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen each other since that show that we did.

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Speaker 1: We did have an exfluent show down in Savannah. You

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Speaker 1: have to go that. I was seeing the highlights of

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Speaker 1: your tour. I've been well. Since then, I've been well.

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Speaker 1: I'm wrestled for it's gotten off the tour when you

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Speaker 1: were getting READI yeah, so I'm wrestling. I'm actually you know,

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Speaker 1: And then you're back home you're like, man, I'm tire

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Speaker 1: of looking at all this. I want to go back

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Speaker 1: up and yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. I defended my dissertation

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Speaker 1: so that's crazy. But yeah, and then been tor in Birmingham, BC, Asheville,

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Speaker 1: tour announced like yesterday, I'm going out with a band

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Speaker 1: called Holy f Word. Yeah they're really dope. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're going from like Vancouver down to San Diego. Dates ten.

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Speaker 1: You said next week, Yeah, oh say you just get

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Speaker 1: is election day today Georgia all across the state, and

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Speaker 1: Georgians believed their vote matters, like to a degree that

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Speaker 1: And then we have tons of organizers people like the

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to expand Medicaid under her governorship. Um,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of folks getting out the vote today,

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Speaker 1: feeling excited, feeling empowered, cool. So on the topic of

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Speaker 1: Medicaid and health insurance and our health generally. In this episode,

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Speaker 1: we've teamed up with twenty three and me for a

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Speaker 1: conversation for a conversation about DNA testing. Now you have

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Speaker 1: twenty three, here is a DNA testing you think it?

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Speaker 1: The guys, we already heard you do that episode about

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Speaker 1: of legendary hip hop with user Jake Diller for visiting

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Speaker 1: stuff of j Dillas story UM with his own health

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