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Speaker 1: It's welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm Rob

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Speaker 1: Shooter and it's Monday, which means a handsome friend. Garrett

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Speaker 1: Vogel joins, Hey, Garrett, are you there?

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Speaker 2: You know really how to win me over on a Monday, Rob,

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Speaker 2: you could have one of the like you know, you

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Speaker 2: wake up and it's like it's Monday, but then you open

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Speaker 2: up that link on a zoom room and there you

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Speaker 2: are with a big smile and the compliments galore.

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Speaker 3: How can I not be not in a good mood?

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's why I'm so good. What I do? I

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Speaker 1: make you feel very comfortable, and you tell me everything.

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Speaker 1: Then I tell everybody that terrible. Don't tell me it

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Speaker 1: annoys Bruce, my husband, he says. I pop out of

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Speaker 1: bed like a piece of toast. I pop up in

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Speaker 1: the morning a minute, my eyes open, I'm on, I'm on.

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Speaker 3: Like lightly crisp. Right, I mean we're not burnt, because you.

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Speaker 2: Would just be upset, right, that's right, be grumpy enough

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Speaker 2: where you take it out in the butter melts ring.

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Speaker 1: I've been a melt today. Okay, let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 1: We've got a really good one today, some serious stuff today,

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Speaker 1: but don't worry. It's the Naughty but nine show, So

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Speaker 1: we're going to keep this happy, happy, happy. What time

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Speaker 1: is it, my friends? It is te time. So a

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Speaker 1: real serious story. At the top of the show, Katie

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Speaker 1: Perry might have hinted that she knew the real truth

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Speaker 1: about her ex, Russell Brand, years before the sexual abuse claims.

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Speaker 1: Let me break this down. So Russell Brand has been

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Speaker 1: accused accused of assaulting four women, four women over a

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Speaker 1: period of time. It's an explosive accusation that came out

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Speaker 1: in London. The Sunday Times reported this. Four women have

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Speaker 1: accused him of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse. The

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Speaker 1: incidents allegedly took place between two thousand and six and

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Speaker 1: two thousand and thirteen. Now people are going back to

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Speaker 1: an interview that Katie did after her divorce. Remember she

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Speaker 1: was married to him for not very long, a little

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Speaker 1: more than a year fourteen months. She gave a really

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Speaker 1: cryptic interview in twenty thirteen with Vogue, and she seemed

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Speaker 1: to reference the ongoing allegations against her ex that were

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Speaker 1: sort of out there. They were not put together in

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Speaker 1: a big report like the Sunday Times did, But I'd

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Speaker 1: heard these rumors, and she said the following to the outlet,

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Speaker 1: and now everybody is wondering what exactly did she mean.

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Speaker 1: She said, I felt a lot of responsibility for ending

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Speaker 1: the marriage, but then I found out the real truth,

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Speaker 1: which I can't necessarily disclose because I keep it locked

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Speaker 1: in my safe for a rainy day. So Katie is

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Speaker 1: implying in twenty thirteen, what's that ten years ago that

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Speaker 1: needed to use it. Now. I spoke to my Katie's

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Speaker 1: sources last night and they said absolutely not if she

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Speaker 1: thought this was happening. If she knew about this, she

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Speaker 1: would have spoken out. This isn't something that you keep

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Speaker 1: not that they're a fan of a knaff pop group

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Speaker 1: or they you know, don't put down the toilet's see.

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Speaker 1: This is really really serious, serious allegations. And had she

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Speaker 1: known anything about this, I'm told she would have spoken at.

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Speaker 2: Oh, of course, I mean, and I think if we

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Speaker 2: learned our lesson Ashton Coucher Emila Kunez, you speak up

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Speaker 2: sooner and you don't support a friend a quote unquote

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Speaker 2: in case this does go to court, I mean, at

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Speaker 2: least Russell Brand has Ashton Kutcher on his side. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Greg him a nice letter, oh you know, and even

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Speaker 2: that story too. I mean Ashton Cutcher had a step

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Speaker 2: down from from his sex trafficking organization, yeasation where he

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Speaker 2: tries to help people. I mean, yeah, just so people

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Speaker 2: are people? Do you see this a lot rob where

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes. And I see too that because of who

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Speaker 3: So here's the interesting thing.

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Speaker 2: Katie ten years ago was still she was twenty eight

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Speaker 3: So she will have some questions to answer.

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Speaker 1: But she's got some questions.

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Speaker 2: But I do think she just like in that joking manner, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I know his dark secrets.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I asked her friends. I really I called

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Speaker 1: like three people, really good sources, people that know Katie

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Speaker 1: is that he snores, he foughts right, he wasn't very

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Speaker 1: nice to her. The truth was he was a bit

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Speaker 1: with him about him, which is really bad when you're

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Speaker 1: married to somebody, when you love somebody, it's really bad.

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Speaker 1: But I think that that's the distinction they're making here.

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Speaker 1: But we want to know what you have to think

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Speaker 1: about all this. Katy Perry hinted that she knew quote

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Speaker 1: the real truth about her ex Russell Brand years before

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Speaker 1: the sexual abuse claims. Our question is did she know? Hey,

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Speaker 1: go quote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob

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Speaker 1: at Facebook pages Nordy Gossip. Am be sure to check

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Speaker 1: back right here tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: what are you working on?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: I guess you can call these the the co parents

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Speaker 2: to look up to, right So, Ben Affleck, Jennifer Garner,

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Speaker 2: they were spotted together over the weekend in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: I believe on Friday, and they were in a car.

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Speaker 2: And of course people notice that, oh, Ben Affleck and

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Speaker 2: and so I'm sure that there was a or a

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Speaker 2: for their child's best interests. Yes, so by by fighting

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Speaker 2: believe like they were married for ten years. They got

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Speaker 2: and of course everybody's moved on. You know, Jennifer Garner's

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Speaker 2: we know, we ben affleck back with Jennifer Lopez. I

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Speaker 2: can you forget they're remarried. But but you know, you

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Speaker 2: like to see the fact that, you know, people do

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Speaker 2: speak what they say. It's like, hey, we're in this

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Speaker 2: we're just looking out for the best. Interesting, but they're

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Speaker 1: Right, there was some affection in the car. We saw

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Speaker 1: her put her head on his shoulder. They smiled at

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Speaker 1: each other. There were some physical contacts. But let me

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Speaker 1: remind everybody their daughter, sad Athena was in the car too.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like Ben and Jen Gardner were driving and

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Speaker 2: If you were to make out with someone, you would

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Speaker 2: you would get in the car and go to a

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Speaker 1: That's where we go. Cart if I said to you

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Speaker 3: Going to bring me back garden?

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Speaker 1: Where did you go when you were growing up to

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Speaker 3: More of the woods?

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Speaker 2: You know, I see you because like they you know,

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Speaker 3: Go in the woods.

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Speaker 1: And that's what papermaking. As my people who who are

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Speaker 3: I was trying to think about.

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Speaker 1: This, but you're gonna hear stories today that Jennifer Lopez

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Speaker 1: is furious that she's angry. It's naturally their daughter was

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Speaker 1: And I'd like to believe I'm the type of person

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Speaker 1: friends after ten years together. You don't have to hate

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Speaker 1: each other when you break up. How are you, Garrett? Now,

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Speaker 1: you're not a breakup type of guy. But if you

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Speaker 1: if you fall out with somebody, is it, is it

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Speaker 1: really aggressive for the rest of your life? Or do

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Speaker 1: you forgive?

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Speaker 2: Or where are you you really gotta f me over you.

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Speaker 2: If you really screw me over you? Are you you?

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Speaker 2: You made the list, You're on the list.

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Speaker 1: It's a short list.

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Speaker 2: There's a short list of maybe about four people that

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Speaker 2: then that you mentioned their name. Right now, I'll slam

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Speaker 1: So there is people that are people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are people and they know who they are

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Speaker 2: and they will get theirs one day. Mmmm.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's move along. Q Jackman and his wife Deb

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Speaker 1: have split. I saw these two about two months ago

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Speaker 1: walking down the West Side Highway and I stopped. I

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Speaker 1: know Deb, and we had a little chat and Hugh

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Speaker 1: Deb and to my left was Wolverine, like just standing

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Speaker 1: Grady Show. I love that movie. And so they've broken up.

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Speaker 1: And now there's lots of rumors that he's gay. It's

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Speaker 1: not true, and they have spoken about this over the years.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting where we are in the strike right now,

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Speaker 3: It's a different contact.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's interesting because of the strike, two

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Speaker 3: Should have made.

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Speaker 1: A friend Garrott Vergel, Hey, Garrett, let's get to the poll.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Darling lash Ye. We talked about Kaitlyn Jenner,

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Speaker 1: a look, oh naughties? Sixty percent say no. Do you know, Garrett,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, everybody else. Hey, hey, mom, you need to

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Speaker 2: All right, So now let me test you a little bit,

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Speaker 2: rob Shooter. Do you know who Travis Kelson is?

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Speaker 1: Not I do now because of the story you're about

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Speaker 1: Nice I'm a member there. You believe that I passed

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Speaker 1: by it. We'll have the naughty but Nice Christmas party there.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all four of us and some of the naughties.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I wanted to go to the show because I

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Speaker 1: the day. Let's end with a moment of Rob. Remember

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Speaker 1: every friend in your life, every single friend in your life,

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Speaker 1: used to be a stranger. When you see a stranger,

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Speaker 1: that could be your new best friend. That is it

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Speaker 1: for today. Thank you so much for listening to the

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Speaker 1: Not Even Nice with Rob and Garrett Show, a production

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Speaker 1: We love you, we love you, and thank you for

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Speaker 1: are grateful. And guess who arrives today in New York City.

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Speaker 1: Prince William. We'll have all the news about that tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I might be seeing him a little later, not one

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Speaker 1: about that's a tease tomorrow tomorrow. No, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to zero bond. Okay, let's have our little ending. Everybody

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Speaker 1: are you ready? Clear your throats, even good voice, everybody, Okay,

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Speaker 3: It's not even nice with Rob