1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Incoming borders are. Tom Holman says President elect Donald Trump 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: gave him three priorities. He laid it out pretty clear. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: One is securing the border, then running deportation operations, and 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: lastly prioritizing finding these missing migrant kids. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, a man with the plan right there at Box's 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: Brooke tailor on the agenda that Trump has for home 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: and as Trump was working even all throughout the day 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: yesterday on Christmas Day, Hey there, Merry Christmas to you. 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: A happy Hanukkah. I certainly hope it has been what's 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: important each and every day right now though, as we're 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: enjoying time with our friends, family hopefully the holiday season 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: is making sure that each one of these days is 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: maximized the way that Donald Trump has been maximizing them again, 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: getting to his top cabinet officials, nominating them in record time, 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: almost two months prior to when he did it the 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: first time around, spending even Christmas Day working on his agenda. 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: For the most part, there is so much that needs 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: to be accomplished in quickly if we really are going 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: to make America great again. This one of the great 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: lessons learned of the first Trump administration. But that's only 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: going to happen if we have the incoming Republican majorities 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: in Congress that are on board with Trump's agenda, and 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: the overwhelming majority of American people are the elected officials 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: that largely rode the co tales of Donald Trump. They 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: need to be on board too and serve their constituents. Now, 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: I am the host of the Brian Mudshow as I 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: am enjoying my time with you today filling in for 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: claim buckets they enjoy the holidays with their friends and 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: family as well. 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Now, closing 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: out the previous hour, we had a great question that 47 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: came in Jay and Louisiana said, Hey, you know, as 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: I've been talking through the first couple of hours about 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: doing things differently, does getting on board with Trump's agenda 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: what Trump's agenda actually is, But then the rethinking of 51 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: the federal government the way that it's been constructed, as 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: I've laid out, at the top of our country's founding, 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: we only had five federal government agencies. We now have 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty, four hundred and thirty more than 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: I bet even half the members of Congress could get 56 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: to a tenth of You know, they fund these four 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty government agencies, but how many of them 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: could even begin to scratch the service a surface of 59 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: naming the names of these agencies, and so as you 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: do have dose, as you do have the Department of 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: government efficiency that Musk and Ramswami are heading. And as 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: we were taking a look at doing things differently and 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: hopefully quickly, the question came up about how we could 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: dramatically cut the federal government without crashing the US economy. 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: And it's valid, there's a lot there that is worth unpacking. 66 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: So I want to take them in to kind of 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: do it, because it's really important to address these kinds 68 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: of arguments in order to be able to meaningfully advance 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: the ball forward. And the first thing is it's really 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: important to have somebody like Elon Musk that is heading 71 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: this thing. Is really important to have somebody like Ramaswamy 72 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: that is heading this thing, because these are people who 73 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: do things differently. The number one reason why they are 74 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: as wealthy as they are, as successful as they are, 75 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: why Elon Musk in particular is the greatest entrepreneur of 76 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: our time, if not potentially all time, is because they 77 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: didn't think about doing things the way that people previously 78 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: had done. They had, they would never be where they 79 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: are right now, right And so that kind of mindset, 80 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: along with an entrepreneurial president as well, means that necessarily 81 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: things are going to challenge the conventional norms that have 82 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: been out there in terms of governance. So I want 83 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: to walk you through just a couple of a few 84 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: of the the big themes here. If we're going to 85 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: get serious about dramatically cutting the government and also taking 86 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: only at Trump's plan, you start by looking at where 87 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: money is being spent right now now, So federal government spending. 88 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: The number one place that federal government money is spent 89 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: social Security social Security. Twenty percent of all federal government 90 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: spending is social Security. So are we going to cut that? No. 91 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: Trump has in his plan there will be no cutting 92 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: of Social Security and Medicare. He wants to strengthen those 93 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: programs so they're not set for insolvency next decade. Right, So, 94 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: right off the top, you can take a look at 95 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: that and go, okay, well, social Security twenty percent of 96 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: federal government spending. That is not going to be harmed here. 97 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: That's not going to be on the chopping blog. Next 98 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: up is what, Oh, it's Medicare. Okay, So sixteen percent 99 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: of federal government spending right now is in Medicare. So 100 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: now we're up to thirty six percent of what is 101 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: spent by the federal government in those two entitlement programs 102 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: that Donald Trump has said not only will not be 103 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: cut under his watch, but are going to be strength. 104 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: And then you get to the third category. The third 105 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: category is just about the only thing the federal government 106 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: must do, and that is provide national defense. National defense 107 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: is fourteen percent of the federal government spending right now, 108 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: so just between those top three and Trump is talking 109 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: talked about strengthening the military, so he's not looking to 110 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: cut it. If you take a look at those, you're 111 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: now at fifty percent exactly. So fifty percent of the 112 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: federal government spending is part of Trump's plan without diving 113 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: into anything else. Now, I had talked about, you know, 114 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: potentially cutting I don't know, Elon Musk cut eighty percent 115 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 2: of the Twitter work staff when he ended up taking 116 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: over Twitter. He flipped it to x and it's a 117 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: better product now. So if he was able to get 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 2: rid of eighty percent of you know, the the twits 119 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: at Twitter and create a better product with it, can 120 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: I mentioned what could we do if we had I 121 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe eighty percent fewer people working within the 122 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: federal bureacracy. But there's a difference, and this is my point. 123 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: Between saying, hey, we have all these government agencies four 124 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty, a bunch of which I bet we 125 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: don't need, many of which I really don't think are 126 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: going to be noticed if they go away, except for 127 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: the people that work within them. So that doesn't necessarily 128 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: mean eighty percent of federal spending for example. Right, so, 129 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: right there, you're top three that Trump is completely behind, 130 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: and once his strengthen that accounts for half of all 131 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: federal government spending. But then just walk to the next one, 132 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: and this I think begins to illustrate the point in 133 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: an even bigger way. You know what the fourth biggest 134 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: expenses that we pay for with their federal tax dollars 135 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: now net interest, net interest, just serving just servicing the 136 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: federal debt. By that one, I think is an eye opener, 137 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: because the question was, how can we really take these 138 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: big swings at cutting the federal government without crashing the 139 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: US economy. Well, when we take a look at where 140 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: the money is actually being spent, I would say, how 141 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: is it that we are almost now spending as much 142 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: on interest to service the thirty six trillion dollars in 143 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: debt that we've already accumulated. How is it that we 144 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: could be spending as much on that effectively as we 145 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: are on national defense, and almost as much as medicare 146 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: and Social security? How is it that we can do 147 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: that without crashing the US economy, especially as it continues 148 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: to do nothing but rise. So the first thing is 149 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: understanding that this isn't sustainable if we do the nonsense 150 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: we've been doing, or anything even close to it. At 151 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: some point, this doesn't work right in the example I 152 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: always like to use when it comes to the dead thing, 153 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: because for a long time you've had a lot of 154 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: conservatives that have been worried about federal deficits and budget stuff, 155 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: but it hasn't seemingly really come back to bite the 156 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: country in a big way. So it becomes harder to 157 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: kind of maintain that kind of argument. The federal government 158 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: is no different at a certain level than you are. 159 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: You can run up as much debt as you want 160 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: in your own household. You can take out as many 161 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 2: credit cards as credit card companies will provide you with you, 162 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: you can max those things out and to when it 163 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: theoretically all works as long as you can hit that 164 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: minimal monthly payment on everything right, and so you can 165 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: go and go and go and go for years, maybe 166 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: even decades, accumulating debt provided that you can hit the 167 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: minimal monthly payment on everything. But when does stuff hit 168 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: the fan when you no longer can even do that, 169 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: And that's the difference is now we're seeing the the debt, 170 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 2: the interest to service it that is competing with the 171 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: amount of spending we do a national defense that's competitive 172 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: with Medicare and social security. We're getting to the point 173 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: where that stuff starts not to work. And that also 174 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: factors into something else that you felt, what is the 175 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: number one reason why we had forty plus year high 176 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: inflation under the Biden administration? All this debt spend, all 177 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: this government debt spending, right, and then all the false 178 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 2: demand that was created, the artificial demands by all of 179 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: this artificial debt spending. So it's already had a really 180 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: negative impact on you. Just to get to the point 181 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: where we are right now, let alone what comes next. 182 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: The Yamar Republic comes to mind, because that's exactly what 183 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: happened in Germany that led to Hitler's rise, Right, So 184 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: I would turn that question around at that point and 185 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: say that one is a lot scarier than short term 186 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: economic hiccups if we cut debt, if we cut federal 187 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: government spending. But here comes the next piece of that. 188 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: Does the money suddenly just go away altogether? If the 189 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: idea is that, oh, we can only maintain the US 190 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: economy if we have bloated federal government debt spending, well 191 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: what happens if we retain more of our own resources. 192 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: Our taxes aren't as high, we don't have as much 193 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: to service and federal deficits. It goes back a number 194 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: of years now. But remember taking a look at a 195 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: government efficiency study in comparing government assistance programs with charities 196 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: that do similar things, because I want to know, okay, really, 197 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: how good is the federal government at doing the stuff 198 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: they say they're going to do? Like you know, I'm 199 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: uncle Sam, I'm here to help. If you give money 200 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: to the federal government and then they funnel it down 201 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: into various different agencies that are supposed to help people, 202 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: how official are they? The average charity in the United States, 203 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: to give you an idea, about eighty to eighty five 204 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: percent efficient, meaning that you know, for every dollar that 205 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: you put towards the charity somewhere in the neighborhood at 206 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: eighty cents actually gets to whatever the intended cause is. 207 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: And you have a myriad of charities are well above 208 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: ninety percent. Those are the good ones, you know, get 209 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: above ninety consistently ninety cents on the dollar. But again 210 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: even just you know, pretty much the average will get 211 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: you eighty cents on the dollars to the intended cause. 212 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: You know what the federal government's efficiency rate was. And 213 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: again this goes back, you know, over a decade now, 214 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: so it could be different, although probably not better, be 215 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: my guess, eighteen cents on the dollar for every dollar 216 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: the bureaucracy is taken in with assistance programs in mind, 217 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: about eighteen cents was getting to the intended cause. Think, 218 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: for example, of all the these assistance programs that we 219 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: do for you know, say Ukraine and you know, the 220 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: so called the Palestinian people and all these things, how 221 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: much of that money actually gets where it's supposed to 222 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: be going. How much money ends up in the wrong hands. 223 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: That'll give you that's but one example of why the 224 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: numbers are so low. Right, So if we are that 225 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: much more efficient, and if we have access to more 226 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: for our money, and if inflation is lower because we 227 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: don't have as much artificial federal government debt spending creating 228 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: artificial demand. Are we not going to be in a 229 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: lot better position and pretty quickly. So there's your economic argument. 230 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Mudd and for Clay and Buck, we'll be 231 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: right back. 232 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: Stories are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you 233 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 3: unite us all each day. Spend time with Clay and 234 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 235 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: get your podcasts. 236 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: Conrect needs a fundust deportation operation. It's going to be expensive, 237 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: and everybody's focus on how expensive to be the need 238 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: to understand, Yeah, it's going to be expensive in the beginning, 239 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 4: but in the long run, it's going to say basic 240 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: the dollars of taxpayers money. Right now, we're playing for 241 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: free hotel rooms, free airline airline, airplane trips, free medical care. 242 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So that is Tom Homan Incoming Borders are talking 243 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: about the cost of deportations because as we're talking about 244 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: the cost of federal government, as we're talking about doge 245 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: In really getting serious about reducing federal government, not everything 246 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: is going to be about saving money. There are going 247 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: to be some additional expenses as well. Obviously you know 248 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: the cost of deportations, but as Tom points out, over 249 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: the long run, it's going to be a lot better 250 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: for you, right. And there are a couple of things 251 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: that come to mind when I hear Tom say that. 252 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: One is a saying of mine, you know, talk about 253 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: the premise. If the premise of anything is false, anything 254 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: built in that false premise is too. The bottom line is, 255 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: you know, when we have a federal government that has 256 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty eighties with the country that was 257 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: founded with five when most people that are funding that 258 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: government can't even name the most of the agencies, something 259 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: is fundamentally wrong with that. When we have our debt, 260 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: that is just the interest that is being serviced on 261 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: it about as big as the national defense budget, which 262 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: is about the only thing that you know, constitutionally the 263 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: federal government really has to do, right, protect you, protect 264 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: the interest of this country, and so national defense really 265 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: the only thing that is an absolute must. Just servicing 266 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: debt is about as much as that. That's a false premise. 267 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: That thing's like going to work the border false premise. 268 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: You know, how are we going to afford to get 269 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: rid of people that are here illegally I think the 270 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: better question is how is it that we continue down 271 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: the path of having all these people that are here illegally, 272 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: most of which, by the way, end up on government 273 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: assistance programs. Most of the people that end up in 274 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: government assistant housing. That adds to inflation. You take a look, 275 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: the cost of the average illegal immigrant during the duration 276 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: of the time they're here is sixty eight thousand dollars. 277 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: Every single person that has entered this country illegally, the 278 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: average cost sixty eight thousand dollars for however long their 279 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: duration is here cost the average American taxpayer eleven hundred 280 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: and fifty six bucks per year. That's how much just 281 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: facilitating illegal immigration to the extent that we have it 282 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: right now the Biden administration, what it does to us. So, yeah, 283 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: it's a false premise. So much of this stuff. You 284 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: got to do the right thing. Brian Mudd in for 285 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: Claim Bug, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front 286 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: lines of truth. 287 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 5: On the border or they're the ones that are in 288 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 5: charge of who's crossing is not. They know that they 289 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 5: can utilize these children to come across in order to 290 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 5: get you know, catch and release, continue to go and 291 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 5: it's also they use it as a distraction so they 292 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 5: can get drug somewhere else on the border. 293 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: Exactly. So if you have the false premise you have 294 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: an open border, you allow illegal immigration. If you talk 295 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: about how expensive it is to deport people, we can't 296 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: do all that. You know, it's just too much. If 297 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: we think about things through a false lens, Guess what, 298 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: everything else kind of breaks down too, and children at 299 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: the base level end up being the biggest victims in 300 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: the end. It's but one of example. But isn't it 301 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: true right down the line, like, for example, how much 302 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: better off would your family be if your taxes were 303 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: one one hundred and fifty six dollars less annually Because 304 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, we didn't facilitate a legal immigration in 305 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: this country. I mean, the grand schame of bat crap 306 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: crazy things. That's way up there. Brian Mudd in for 307 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: claim buck pleasure being here with you, and as we 308 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: were talking about dose rethinking government twenty five days before 309 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: we're back to sanity, but how important these days are 310 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: and we're in the holiday season. Absolutely, hope you've had 311 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 2: a wonderful holiday season and continue to do so with 312 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: your friends and family. But Donald Trump was working on 313 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: Christmas Day for a reasons, because this matters, and we 314 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: can't get to January sixth and have a dysfunctional government 315 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: that can't decide on a speaker. That leads to us 316 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: not even having Donald Trump formally, you know, as the 317 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: next president of the United States, and then getting to 318 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: January twentieth and going Okay, well, what are we going 319 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: to do now, which is what basically happened during the 320 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 2: first Trump term. Things have to be different, things have 321 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 2: to be different, And everything that Trump has done to 322 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: this point is different. The speed with which he's acting, 323 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: the intentionality with which he has been going about things, 324 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: his knowledge doge, the cunning of federal government agencies that 325 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: people have never heard of except for the people that 326 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: work in them, and who knows, maybe even some of 327 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 2: them don't know exactly what their agency name is. They 328 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: just continue to collect those checks, you know, through like 329 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: a remote work environment. But yeah, when you take a 330 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: look at just one issue alone, you take a look 331 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: at the illegal immigration issue, there are so many ways 332 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: to illustrate points about the absurdity of what we've been 333 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 2: doing in government, the way that we've been doing it. 334 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: But we pay one than one hundred and fifty six 335 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: dollars per federal taxpayer per year to account for the 336 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 2: costs of illegal immigration. Because most end up on government 337 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: assistance programs, most end up in some type of government 338 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: assistant housing of some sort, or if they end up 339 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: with family members or friends somewhere, they're still getting some 340 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: type of assistance. The net cost, the net cost of 341 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: each illegal immigrant, every one of them, was sixty eight 342 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: thousand dollars net. And so people say out, no, there's 343 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: the net benefits because they provide a service final large 344 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 2: to the country. Noe, the net costs. Will you factor 345 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: even in those that are theoretically beneficial to this country? 346 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: Labors apply what have you not? Sixty eight thousand dollars 347 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: for the duration of the time they're here, And oh 348 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: look at this. You are also now nine hundred and 349 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 2: fourteen percent more likely to be a victim of a 350 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: crime perpetrated by a non citizen compared to four years ago. 351 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: I mean, good time. He doesn't want to pay a 352 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: lot more money for that. And so it's just one 353 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 2: example of why it is so important. As people continue 354 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: to put up roadblocks and resistance, it's too expensive to do. 355 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: The mass deportation plan. So let's just stem the border 356 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: and not do that. Now we need to carry out 357 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: Trump's twenty point plan. Now, on that note, I've had 358 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: taken a look at some of the notes I've gotten 359 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: back during the course of the show. Some people are 360 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: been like Mike Johnson, I mean, why are you fighting 361 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: for Mike Johnson? What you know, he's not a good 362 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: conservative everything else. Well, when I was talking about him specifically, 363 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: I was saying, he's far from perfect, his policy positions 364 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: far from perfect, but much like McCarthy before him, kind 365 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: of stuck between a rock and a hard place. Given 366 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: that Democrats have the Senate, given that Joe Biden's President 367 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: of the United States, you know you're never going to 368 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: get a great outcome when most of the federal government 369 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: is run by Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer. I don't 370 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: know how you expect that to really end up being 371 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: a great thing unless your answer is just, hey, let's 372 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 2: stay to partial government shut down in perpetuity. I mean, 373 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: it's a strategy. You could do that, I suppose, if 374 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: you want, But otherwise you're naturally compromised because elections have consequences, 375 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: and things didn't go so well previously, but that's different now. 376 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: And the reason it could be a pumpkin for all 377 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: I care. The reason that I say, you know, Mike 378 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: Johnson is because Trump has said Mike Johnson. And yes, 379 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: you got some rumblings that Trump is upset with the 380 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: cr that was signed. You know recently that Johnson ended 381 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: up putting the vote to you know that required Democrats 382 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: to get on board with and everything. Yeah, maybe that's true, 383 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: maybe that isn't whatever, But most recently, Donald Trump said 384 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: to unite behind the man. The last time that Trump 385 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: spoke about this was the last time that you had 386 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: some Republicans that like seeing their names in the press 387 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: and the House saying that they're going to throw him 388 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: overboard and challenge his leadership position. At orientation, Trump was 389 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: so poed by that. It was the day that he 390 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: ended up going to meet with Joe Biden at the 391 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: White House. Before he went to meet with Biden, what 392 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: do you do? He got there a couple hours early. 393 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: He went to the orientation, the House Republican Orientation, and 394 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: behind closed doors, stood with Mike Johnson said that he 395 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: was with him one hundred percent and pointed at the 396 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: Republican conference and told them to unite behind that man. 397 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 2: So that is Donald Trump and who he wants. And 398 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: I know that Mike Johnson has been working with Trump 399 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 2: for months now on his agenda. There's a reason why 400 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: Mike Johnson has so much FaceTime in mar A Lago, 401 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: well before the election cycle. They've been working on the 402 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: agenda right along. Much different than what we saw eight 403 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: years ago when you had Paul Ryan that was an 404 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 2: obstacle to the agenda. There's every indication that if Mike 405 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: Johnson is House Speaker, he will do what he can 406 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: with then a Republican majority in Congress and Trump as 407 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: president to carry out that agenda. So, you know, sitting 408 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 2: here and quibbling over the here and now on that 409 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: short term cr outcome when Democrats control most of the 410 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: federal government is not nearly as important as what happens 411 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: starting in January. And if Trump comes out and says, no, 412 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: I'm done with Johnson, you know, let it be a pumpkin. Okay, 413 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: We'll go for the pumpkin then, because if the pumpkin's 414 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: going to carry out Trump's agenda, Trump's agenda is what 415 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: we voted for. Trump's agenda is what we need to 416 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 2: make America great again. That's my point. Sounds so much 417 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: about Mike Johnson, It's about Trump's agenda. Republicans need to 418 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: cut the crap and they need to unify behind the man, 419 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: which is what did not happen eight years ago. Imagine, well, 420 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: what have happened that Trump administration? The first Trump term. 421 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: It was incredibly successful as it was, and he was 422 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: dealing with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. We can be 423 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 2: in a much better place, but we can't if we're 424 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: fighting about even getting to a leadership position to even 425 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: confirm Donald Trumps in the United States. Let's go to 426 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: Rachel in Texas. Rachel, Welcome to the show. 427 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 6: Hi. 428 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 7: I was listening to you the first hour and I 429 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 7: was just thinking about how Trump was working on Christmas Day. 430 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 7: Now he is a billionaire, and without billionaires and millionaires weave, 431 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 7: the service industry doesn't have anybody to work for. How 432 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 7: many times has a poor person hired a person to 433 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 7: do a job for them, very very rarely, And so consequently, 434 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 7: I am so proud of the fact that we do 435 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 7: have people who have money that can hire people like 436 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 7: me that does my job, and I do it well, 437 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 7: and I do everything that I can to do the 438 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 7: best I can. So that's just something I was thinking 439 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 7: about when you you were talking earlier. 440 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: Well, may God bless you great call. Really appreciate it. 441 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being there. And it is 442 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: such an instructive point. It is such an instructive point, 443 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: you know, and Trump set it himself on many occasions 444 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: over the years. You didn't need any of this. Take 445 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: a look at everything that's been done to this man. 446 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: They've tried to destroy him every which way, including an attempting 447 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 2: to kill him, and yet he's still working on Christmas Day, 448 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: and he had an amazing life. Man's a billionaire. So 449 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 2: he did all this in the first place. Why well, 450 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: because he cared that much not to just live a 451 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: cozy life that he had afforded himself through enormous success. 452 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: You take a look at doje. Elon Musk is the 453 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: richest man in the world. Ramis Wamy's a billionaire too. 454 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: Why are they doing this. Elon Musk certainly doesn't need this, right, 455 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: hundreds of billions of dollars. The man is worth hundreds 456 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: of billions. He's got numerous incredible world changing companies that 457 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: he owns and that he runs. He doesn't need any 458 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: of this, why he cares that much? And Ramswami is 459 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: a different version of a similar thing. Yeah, I mean 460 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 2: the point is well taken because they're doing this because 461 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: they care about the country that much. I think about 462 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: the Founders a lot when I think about them, actually, 463 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: because who are most of the Founders? Almost all the 464 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: Founders were wealthy men. Could have been real easy for 465 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 2: them to go along with the British Crown and say, yeah, 466 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: you know what, I don't agree with it. The stinks, 467 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: but you know what, I got mine, So yeah, just 468 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: I'll be frustrated by I'll live a good life here. 469 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: Been really easy for the Founders to have done that. 470 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: They literally funded the revolution, They literally put their own 471 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: lives on the line. Why because they believed enough. Sound familiar. 472 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: Let's go to Steam in Pennsylvania. Steven, Welcome to the show. 473 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 8: Hello, thanks for taking my call. You bet, just a 474 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 8: real quick point, as it pertains to like the new 475 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 8: Department of Government efficiency when it comes to morality. No 476 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 8: matter what your views are on capital punishment, it turns 477 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 8: out it's a lot more expensive to try and put 478 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 8: someone on death row than is to just have them 479 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 8: spend forty years in prison. 480 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: You know, you you bring up in an instructive point 481 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: and uh, you appreciate the the call Stephen. Uh yeah, 482 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: the the whole legal process and everything else that goes 483 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: into it all costs money. To your point. Now, there 484 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people saying, yeah, you know, go back 485 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: to the way they used to do capital punishment, where 486 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: you know it's different pretty quickly, and uh, you know, 487 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: I use the methods and everything else that that would 488 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: be cheaper, but it's not the way that it's done. 489 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 2: So you do raise a point that even you know, 490 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: from a government efficiency standpoint, the whole death row thing 491 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: is not necessarily the most efficient way to go about it, 492 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: in part because of how bloated our government bureaucracy happens 493 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: to be. And let's go to Jim in Georgia. Jim, 494 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: welcome to the show. 495 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, let's go government efficiency. I'm sixty four now and 496 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 6: I'm going to retire defense contractor. And two points on 497 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 6: defense contracts. Back in the day, in the eighties, we 498 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 6: would be approached for a particular defense system and I'll 499 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 6: just saw a number out there and say, hey, we 500 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 6: need you to build a system from five hundred million dollars. 501 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 6: Our engineers designed it, create a prototype and say okay, 502 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 6: we can build it for four hundred million dollars, one 503 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 6: hundred million dollars cheaper. Then we were told that you're 504 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 6: going to build it for five hundred million dollars. We'll 505 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 6: find a contractor that will build it for five hundred 506 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 6: million dollars. So what happens We we we really only 507 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 6: spent a four hundred million and we would take like 508 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 6: three or four to eight weekends and only working half 509 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 6: to day, sit on our behind behind the desk or 510 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 6: you know, our labs. 511 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: And this is this is ongoing. 512 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 7: And not only that. 513 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 6: When the contract came to an end and we built 514 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 6: another system. 515 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: All the tools and equipment. 516 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 6: Built by the ladies that would do the assembly, the 517 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 6: men and women that would do the assembly, put the parts. 518 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: Together and build it. 519 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 6: All that all the tools were thrown in trast and 520 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 6: the same tools were repurchased. This is a fact. I 521 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 6: don't want to name the company some of the companies, 522 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 6: but yeah, yeah, your point. 523 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: Your point is well taken. Your point is well taken. 524 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: I appreciate the honesty by the way that you took 525 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: advantage of the system given the opportunity, So thank you 526 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: for the for the honesty there. Now, I mean, and 527 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: what do you think goes on these days where you know, 528 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: you have so many government workers that are doing their 529 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: so called work remotely and agencies that people have never 530 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: heard of. So your point is well taken. Even in 531 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: the Defense department, which is one of the more defensible 532 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: agencies at a high level, even then, yeah, is there 533 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: room for efficiency, Absolutely no doubt. And that's where get again. 534 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: You know, Musk, which by the way, is involved with 535 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,479 Speaker 2: that department in SpaceX and everything else, can can definitely 536 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: get in there and make some recommendations that can be helpful, 537 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: in part because he also knows on the business side 538 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: some of those games that are played some of what 539 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: you were just talking about there as well. I'm Brian 540 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: mudd In for Claim. Buck will be right back. 541 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 3: News and politics, but also a little comic relief. 542 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 543 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 544 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: get your podcasts. 545 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 9: New Jersey State police tell Fox News that this investigation 546 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 9: exposed vulnerabilities in our drone defense, while the CEO of 547 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 9: an electronic warfare company says that it's working with the 548 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 9: Pentagon to develop and deploy better technology right now. Taking 549 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 9: drones down is a federal authority which Governor Phil Murphy 550 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 9: and as the State Police are hoping to change. 551 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Fox is made, boy, I mean, isn't this just betting? 552 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: It's almost apropos that we're ending down the home stretch 553 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: of the Biden administration this way to where we can't 554 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: even handle drones anymore. It's just we go. We can't 555 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: get to the bottom, and we can't figure out what 556 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: just uttering competence everywhere, utter absurdity everywhere, but sanity. It 557 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: is twenty five days away. Sanity is twenty five days away. 558 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: And so as we enjoyed the holidays, it's important that 559 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: for those that are really working hard, starting with the 560 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: next president of the United States, that those that we 561 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: elected to help him do what we elected him to do, 562 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: do their jobs and set this country up for success. 563 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: Set Trump up so that his twenty point agenda is achieved, 564 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: and cut the nonsense, stop the infighting. Trump's not working 565 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: on Christmas Day the way that he was yesterday, so 566 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: that we can get to January and have House Republicans 567 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: play the games that they did with McCarthy a couple 568 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: of years ago and hold up confirming Donald Trump as president. 569 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: The absurdity of absurdities. You know, there's actually a scenario 570 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: where Chuck Grassley could end up being the next president 571 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: of the United States if the House Republican Conference ended 572 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: up being so. Incoonfident, the nonsense has to stop. Sanity 573 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: is twenty five days away, provided that we allow for 574 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: sanity to take place in twenty five days. So if 575 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: you happen to be in these districts with these Republicans 576 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: that won't get behind the Trump agenda, it's time to 577 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: let them know that they were elected to accomplish the 578 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: Trump agenda. It has been truly a pleasure of being 579 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: here with you. And again you can check out my 580 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: wife and I hosted a trip for thirty five folks 581 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: coming up next November WJNO dot com. You can see 582 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: that trip to Ireland to London to Edinburgh. Can email 583 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: me Brian Mud at iHeartMedia dot com, follow me socially 584 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: as well at Brian Mud Radio and otherwise. I do 585 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: absolutely hope you have an amazing, amazing finished it this 586 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: year in a great start to the new year. As 587 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: we do endeavor to begin making America great again. Brian 588 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: Mudd in for Claim Buck, God bless