1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong's Joe Ketty arm Strong and Jetty and He 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Eddy. 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: Seventy point five hot dogs and buns in ten minutes. 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: The Nathan's Famous Fourth of July Champion of the World, 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: Joey Chestnut. 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: How do you feel? I was excited. I love being here, man, 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: I wish I ate a couple more. I'm sorry, guys, 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: I'll be back next year. 11 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 4: That's greatness. That is the voice of greatness. Joey chest 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 4: sweat Eat seventy and a half I dogs. I considered going. 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 4: So we are in Manhattan and the boys for vacation, 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: and we want every Fourth of July since they were little. 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: We watched the hot dog eating contest on ESPN two, 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 4: and it's kind of a family tradition. 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: To watch that. 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 4: And yeah, and I was right there and could have gone, 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: but I thought I just did the crowds and fighting 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: and there and the hot sun, so I didn't go. 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: But maybe I missed out in a lifetime memory right 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 4: there by not watching a guy shove as many hot 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 4: dogs in his mouth as he possibly could in a 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: short amount of time. 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: I think, you know that is what well? He absolutely did? 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: You did? 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: You passed on dream memory for your kids. On the 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: other hand, that's the sort of idea that seems like 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 4: a great one. Then you think about how long is 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 4: it going to take us to get to Coney Island, right, 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 4: and then you knows. 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: A day to two thirds of a day of vacation 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: do I want to. 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: Spend that's jam hotdogs into their mows for five minutes. 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: AnyWho. 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: We just did a story about a woman that was 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: attacked by a homeless person in California. My only reaction 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: to that story vagrant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah you you 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 4: you don't like the term homeless person, and I don't 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 4: blame you. We need a quick short term for these people. 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: Crazy person. I'm fine with crazy person or I don't know. 42 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: That's not accurate either, because it's not all mental illness. 43 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: It's way more drug crazies than anything else. That's why 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: I like the term vagrant because it kind of lumps everybody. 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 4: It covers everybody. I like a transient drug addict, but 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: it's a little cumbersome, and maybe some of these people 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 4: aren't drug addicts, although the vast majority are. 48 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: But the reason I'm on a jot. 49 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: About this is if you make the fundamental focus of 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: describing that person their lack of a permanent address, then 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: people think, well, that's that's really unfortunate. 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: They don't have a home and we need to solve 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: that problem. No, the problem is. 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: There a drug addict. Yeah, more a vagrant, which kind 55 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 4: of hints at it. The reason I want to bring 56 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 4: it up in conjunction with being in New York City 57 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: is I saw I see every single day in the 58 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: college town I live in more drug vagrant street people 59 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: that frighten me every day. Then I saw in Manhattan 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: walking around for three days that shouldn't be Yeah, that's nuts. 61 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: On its own, there aren't none in New York. 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: But what I mean, if you're from California, from a 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: big city in California, or even a small city as 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: I just said, it is refreshingly bum free to be 65 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: in New York and it shouldn't be that way. Maybe 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: if you're from I don't know, Omaha and you go 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: to New York, you think, oh my god, there's scary 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 4: street people around. But for us, it was like, Wow, 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: it's so nice to be able to walk the streets 70 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: without every ten feet you're wondering if this person's gonna 71 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: stab me in the eye with a broken bottle. Yeah, 72 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: it has been useful as a bicoastal American to observe 73 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: the differences in outcomes directly tied to policies. I mean, 74 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: it's not mysterious. It's not difficult to understand. There are, 75 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: for instance, in South Carolina, there are just not bumps 76 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: and junkies. You see a beggar on a street corner 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: once a week, and they generally get rousted by cops. 78 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: Depends where you are. In the super lefty college towns, 79 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: it's worse. But that just goes to prove my point. 80 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: It's directly tied to incentives and disincentives. And you know, 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: at risk of belaboring the point that we've made many times, 82 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 4: if you make. 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: It as easy and comfortable as. 84 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: Possible to be a jobless drug addict, you will have 85 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 4: more jobless drug addicts. Do you think that's doing those 86 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 4: people a favor on any level? I would argue strenuously 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: it's not. 88 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: It's the opposite. 89 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: The one thing I did see in New York that 90 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: bothered me a lot on the fourth of July, we 91 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: were standing in the spot where George Washington took his 92 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: first oath of office as the capital of our fine 93 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 4: country was in New York City right there. It's a big, old, 94 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 4: cool federal building basically across from the New York Stock 95 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 4: Exchange in Wall Street. It's still there, and they've got 96 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: a big cement platform that they've taken out of the 97 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 4: ground and it is now standing up with an inscription 98 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: on it. 99 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: And that's where George Washington. 100 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 4: Stood to take the first oath, which obviously is a 101 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: very very big deal for the world, not just for 102 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: the United States, the point Ken Burns is making in 103 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: his new documentary, which we'll talk about later. But so, 104 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 4: while we were bumping around the southern tip of Manhattan 105 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 4: on the fourth of July and went over to see 106 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 4: the Statue of Liberty and a variety of different things. 107 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: So many of the artifacts of our history of freedom 108 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: of independence were surrounded by barriers because there is so 109 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 4: concerned about protests, and I thought, so this is the 110 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: way we handle it. 111 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: We handle it on the end of. 112 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: The deal of the protests by putting a barrier around 113 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: the statue so I can't look at it. To protect 114 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: it from the protesters as opposed to what we're always advocating. 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: Arrest these people and make it so miserable to get 116 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: arrested for defacing you know, a statue like this, that 117 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 4: you don't do it where we're getting it on the 118 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: wrong end. You need to catch it on the front end. 119 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: So people aren't motivated to do it right now. People 120 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: know they can get away with spray painting this statue 121 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: of whichever founding father, so they have to cover it 122 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: with all kinds of barricades and tape it stuff like 123 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 4: that you can't even see it as a tourist. And 124 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: if you just talked out some of these things that 125 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: we do that are so nuts these day, say, if 126 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 4: you were to describe, all right, we have a variety 127 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: of ways we're proposing to deal with the fact that 128 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: angry protesters who've been miseducated and indoctrinated in our government 129 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 4: schools want to tear down the artifacts of our founding. 130 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: Here is one plan, and I would spell. 131 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: It out, and that includes covering up the monuments and 132 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: statues so no one can see them. That would be 133 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: roundly rejected. People will say, I don't care what else 134 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: is in your stupid plan. You're missing the whole freaking 135 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: point of having this statue. What's your next plan? And 136 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: yet that idiotic plan is the one we've gone with. 137 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 4: Come on, America, he can do better than this. I 138 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: noticed it was all around immigration, So anything that had 139 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 4: to do with like around Ellis Island, the Statue of Liberty, 140 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: like the launching point there from Manhattan, they had covered up, 141 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: blocked off, whatever. So they must have been expecting some 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: sort of you know, Trump is evil, anti Ice something, 143 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: because they made it very difficult to get close to 144 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: or touch anything that had to do with welcoming immigrants 145 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: in this country. So I'm assuming, which I thought was 146 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 4: interesting given I had a couple of experiences riding with 147 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: lift drivers or Uber drivers that were from another land 148 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: you could tell by their accent, but who had great 149 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: stories I got to talking about. I got in an 150 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: Uber Blacker, Lyft black or whatever. He was driving an 151 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: escalade and young guy, thick accent from somewhere and I said, 152 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: just chicar and he said yeah. I said how old 153 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: are you and he said twenty five? And I said, 154 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: well this is pretty impressive. He said yeah, I worked 155 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: this to buy this. And then I'm trying to get 156 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: another car and then I'm going to have a driver, 157 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden and I. 158 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: Thought that here's it here. 159 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: So what is the story on immigrants who do this 160 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: as opposed to you're waiving your home country's flag in 161 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: the streets attacking cops. 162 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: This land is. 163 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: Awful, right, Well, we should have a better some sort 164 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 4: of conversation around that. 165 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: People who work. 166 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: Hard come up with an idea, think it's great that 167 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: they can do whatever they want here versus the you 168 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 4: aren't giving me enough stuff crowd. 169 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: Right, Ground zero is the schools. 170 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 4: It is absolutely the schools, which is one of the 171 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: reasons school choice is so important that I'm so enthusiastic 172 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 4: about her. It is for a number of reasons. She's 173 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: purely you know, read and write in arithmetic success. The 174 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: current government schools, bound up by the unions are just 175 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 4: not doing the job obviously. So yeah, in the raw, 176 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: you know, purpose of school existing, I think school choice 177 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 4: is a great thing. But also we've got to end 178 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: the systematic indoctrination of the children into this perverse view 179 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: of their own country and they don't know a damn 180 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: thing about their history. I've got some really interesting stuff 181 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: on that too. The recent numbers from Gallup. Gallup does 182 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: a poll on civics and education and patriotism, that sort 183 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 4: of thing. 184 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: The current numbers are miserable among the young. Shocking. Yeah. 185 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 4: I hit my kids with some various questions about things 186 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: or comments about things, and I was disappointed people or 187 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: events they've never heard of at this current age in 188 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 4: their lives, which is shocking to me. But then why 189 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: don't we penzil that in for hour three of the show. 190 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 4: Let's talk about that. I really I was let LaGuardia Airport, 191 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: getting ready to live in New York, and so they 192 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: got a bookstore. They're nice bookstore, and they've got a 193 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 4: little display up front with the classics in it, and 194 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: it had your you know, year Normal, the Great Gatsby, 195 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: and you know, name name all your classic books that 196 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: you have to read in high school or college. And 197 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 4: to Kill a Mockingbird, you know, like fifteen of those 198 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 4: kind of books, and Howard Zinn's of People's History of 199 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: the United States, which is just a socialist reading of 200 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 4: our nation's histories included with those books. I mean, so 201 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 4: that's what we're fighting, which is just what you're talking about. 202 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 4: No wonder people have those attitudes. If that's what's displayed 203 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: as a classic of reading at the books. It's not 204 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: the young people's faults. We can't blame them. We've just 205 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 4: got to and it's going to be a hard slog. 206 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: We've got to teach them the truth and let some 207 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: of that filter in. There are generations that we have 208 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: lost a significant number of the kids, and as they 209 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: work their way through their lives, when the generation that 210 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: was most fiercely steeped in this crap, like the kids 211 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: who were in high school or college during the whole 212 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: George Floyd COVID madness, when they're in their forties fifties 213 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 4: taking positions the leadership, will they have left behind the 214 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: awful indoctrination they received. 215 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: I hope so. 216 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 4: But oh boy, yeah, no kidding, Well, we gotta take 217 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 4: a break where we ought to hit the big tariff 218 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: deadline that's going to hit on Wednesday that could be 219 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: disruptive to the world. 220 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: To let you know just a little bit of what's 221 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: going on there. 222 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 4: But also pencil in the characters encountered in Greenwich Village 223 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: at Washington Square Park, a performance artist of a couple 224 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 4: of different kinds and my son playing chess with an 225 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 4: old drunk guy. One of those chess things they do 226 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 4: at the park, you know, the speed chest. 227 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, not chest. 228 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: I just said chest. Michael, think wow, thank you for that. 229 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: Michael put it in my head. 230 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: Idiot. 231 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: Henry said, that is the best thing I've ever done 232 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: in my life. Was his experience coming away from blade 233 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: chests with this guy. It was really something to watch. 234 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 4: I can't wait to tell you that story, among other things. 235 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: On the way stay here. 236 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 5: The President Trump said he will fire off letters to 237 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 5: a dozen countries, which he did not name, threatening to 238 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 5: raise tariffs as high as seventy percent, due to go 239 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 5: into effect early next month. 240 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: I signuts they'll go out on Monday, probably twelve. The 241 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: different amounts of money, different amounts of tariffs, A board 242 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: air force one. 243 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 5: President Trump explained why he prefers letters. 244 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: To other forms of communication. 245 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: I think that. 246 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: Letters are better for us. I've said that all alone, 247 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: because you have hundreds of countries. You know, you have 248 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: over two hundred cuntries, and you can't sit down with two. 249 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: Hundred country So I got to admit I had completely 250 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 4: forgotten about the ninety day tariff pause that happened well, 251 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 4: ninety days ago Wednesday, when he said I don't worry. 252 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: About it, We'll figure out for the next ninety days. 253 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: Well, time is up now, and those tariffs are going 254 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: to kick in Wednesday unless there's some sort of deal made. 255 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: I guess right. 256 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 4: It reminds me of those dreams that torture many of 257 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: us for the rest of our lives. That we wake 258 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 4: up on the day of a final in college or 259 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: high school or whatever and realize we haven't studied and 260 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: blah blah blah, Like I'm sixty years old. Why am 261 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: I having college dreams? 262 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 2: Anyway? Yeah, I was reminded. 263 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: Oh, that's right, the whole tiff thing, the madness, the 264 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 4: trade deals, the oh my god, the chaos. Wall Street 265 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 4: is concerned, the stock market is plugged. Yeah, that's back again, Jack. 266 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 4: They gave you an entire semester to be ready for 267 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: this paper. How are you just getting around to it now? 268 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 4: Dozens and dozens and dozens of countries, more than one 269 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 4: hundred and seventy countries, said Trump the other day. And 270 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: the new teriff rates which he announced. You remember back 271 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: in the day, those so called reciprocal tariffs, which turned 272 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: out to be just a weird creation of numbers they 273 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: decided on anyway, They ranged from ten to seventy percent, 274 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: with payments due by August first. 275 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's. 276 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: Coming to the wall negotiation wise, and the rhetoric and 277 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 4: the vows and the threats are going to get more 278 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: and more heated. Stock market, all kinds of different indexes 279 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: hit all time highs last week, right because of the 280 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 4: concern Jack over the wait what, yeah, I know. It's 281 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: the belief among the folks who talk about this sort 282 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: of thing for a living is that that sort of 283 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: volatility and uncertainty is just kind of People are getting 284 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: used to it now, and they think, well, it came 285 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 4: out pretty well the last couple of rounds of terrible 286 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: threats and nothing terrible happens, so I guess it probably won't. 287 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to see. I don't know. 288 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: Oh, he's also he's threatening additional tariffs. I love this 289 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 4: on your bricks. Group of emerging economies. That's your Brazil, Russia, China. 290 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: They all got together and met in Rio de Janeiro. 291 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 4: Iran is the eye right in brick. It's funny the 292 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: journal left that out. Yeah, anyway, so beunitive terriffs on 293 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: them for being No. 294 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: Not in brick. That what's the other one we can 295 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: that we heard like before we went in a vacation. 296 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, what's that other one? It's a it's a bad word. 297 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: It's like a negative sounding word. No, brick is a Brazil, Russia? 298 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: India? 299 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, India's got to come over here to our side. 300 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: AnyWho, So do you speaking of the tariffs and all 301 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. I standing in. 302 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: Front of the new and the market's hitting a record, 303 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: standing in front of the Stock Exchange on the fourth 304 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: of July taking pictures with my kids, and I was 305 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: explaining to who I'm on this, this is the most 306 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: important thing that mankind has done. This and not the 307 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: stock exchange specifically, but just the whole free market. The 308 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: reason we're the most powerful country in the history of 309 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: the world is democracy in the free market and being 310 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: able to generate the revenue to have the military and 311 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 4: the you know, in the the technolog advancement and everything 312 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: like that. And you know, if you're a fan of capitalism, 313 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: you know this or free markets. It's lifted more people 314 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: out of poverty than any other ideas ever had. I mean, 315 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: it's the greatest thing that ever happened to mankind. Oh 316 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: a million times more man So, it's not even close. 317 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 4: More people should visit the New York Stock Exchange with 318 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: reverence for what it represents in a good way, as 319 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: opposed to it always being used as like a negative 320 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: Wall Street versus Main Street, you know, that whole dumb thing. 321 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, investing in great ideas. 322 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 4: And helping them crow to employ more people and sell 323 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: great products to people who really want them. 324 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: What could be more evil? All right? Yeah, but the bull. 325 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: So, the giant bull on Wall Street and Manhattan was 326 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: more crowded than it's ever been any time I've ever 327 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: visited in my life, which I finally figured out was 328 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 4: because of a giant soccer tournament that was going on. 329 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 4: But anyway, the line for the bull was like six 330 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: blocks long, and everybody was getting underneath the Wall Street 331 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: bull and rubbing its testicles for their pictures. The bull 332 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: is intact jack, as we say in the veterinary business. 333 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: Lots of college girls with their hands on the bulls 334 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: testicles getting their pictures taken for their Instagram. I found 335 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 4: a weird you know, it's a little uncomfortable, but yeah, 336 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: I'm glad America can still laugh. Should I be looking 337 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 4: at this? I feel like I shouldn't be looking at this. 338 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 4: We got a lot more on the way stay. 339 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: Here, Armstrong and Getty, And for me coming back, it 340 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: just I'm overwhelmed with emotion and I'm overwhelmed with memories, 341 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: and I can't get over looking at those. 342 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 6: Cabins right next to the Guadalupe River. 343 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: That river was. 344 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 6: The source of so much joy and fun for us Erica. 345 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 6: We would spend hours and hours in that river. There 346 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 6: was this thing called the Blob, which was like this 347 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 6: inflated balloon type thing that we would jump on and 348 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 6: then the person at the end would jump off into 349 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 6: the water, and it was so much fun. And we'd 350 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 6: go looking for dinosaur fossils. And that was where we 351 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 6: spent so much of our time at camp. 352 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: That is what we loved. 353 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: And to think that that same. 354 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 6: River is the source of this devastation, it's just hard 355 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 6: to wrop my head around. 356 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a reporter who actually attended that very camp 357 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 4: as a kid, obviously, where so many children and adults 358 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: lost their lives. The total number now whatever it is, 359 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: fifty some. 360 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: It's horrible. 361 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are all sorts of different camps for families 362 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 4: and kids. 363 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: Along the river there beautiful you know, river. 364 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 4: Country at Texas, and the rise of the water just horrific, astonishing. 365 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: Rising water levels. 366 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: So what was it twenty six feet in forty five 367 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 4: minutes or something like that. Just unimaginable death toll currently 368 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: eighty one eighty one. But yeah, I saw a Texas 369 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 4: representative on one of the shows yesterday and he said, 370 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 4: he's basically saying, look, I mean, when you get a 371 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 4: once in a hundred year whether something happened, there's not 372 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: much you can do. I mean, you can't be prepared 373 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: for every once in a century event. 374 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to be cavalier about it. 375 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 4: But they called disasters disasters because there asteris, they're rare 376 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 4: and terrible. Well, like I said earlier, it's one of 377 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 4: the worst stories I've ever heard. It's just absolutely horrible. 378 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but the whole what went wrong with the 379 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: warning system? 380 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: He said this Texas Congress and he said, well, we 381 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 4: have we actually have warning systems for hurricanes. You can 382 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: see those coming, not like this river rising, which you 383 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 4: couldn't see coming, he said, And we have hundreds of 384 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: people die all the time in these disasters, so there's 385 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 4: just not much you can do for preparing for something 386 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 4: like this. 387 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: But man, oh what a terrible story. 388 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: And especially if it happens in the wee hours of 389 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: the morning where everybody's sound asleep, when everybody sound asleep, 390 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 4: it was just absolutely terrible, you know. And again I 391 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: have no desire to be cavalier about this, because if 392 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 4: there are things that can be done, they should be done. 393 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 4: But it reminds me of, you know, certain political divides 394 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 4: in the country. There are some people who think that 395 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 4: if they just pass enough laws or institute enough systems, 396 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 4: or levy enough tax or whatever, we can remove uncertainty 397 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 4: and danger and you know, the frailty of human life 398 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 4: from the world, whereas those of us, generally on the 399 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: right side of the aisle, understand that, no, this is 400 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 4: just sometimes hurricanes hit cities and it's horrible, and you 401 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: rebuild and do the best you can. It doesn't mean 402 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: we need more government anyway. Yeah, I heard one reporter talking, 403 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 4: or actually was somebody who was at the camp. So 404 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: they had gotten to high ground and survived, obviously. So 405 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 4: it's the middle of the night. Word starts getting around. Hey, 406 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 4: the river's rising, Maybe we ought to get out of here, 407 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 4: and you didn't have much time, and people were running 408 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 4: to their cars, and this person was talking about how 409 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: there were dozens and dozens of cars that were people 410 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 4: had gotten to the cars, and there was there's one 411 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: little dirt road and they're kind of in a line. 412 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: People starting to leave, and then pretty soon they all 413 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 4: just started floating. And then you saw a headlights disappearing 414 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 4: under the water and the car's. 415 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: Just wow, that's they were gone. 416 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I heard a story. I hadn't intended 417 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: on talking about this that much, but it's just so 418 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: amazing and terrible and heartbreaking. 419 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: But this guy woke up to the. 420 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: Sounds of the storm lashing their cabin and he decided 421 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: to get out of bed and the water. 422 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: Was knee high. Oh my god, and. 423 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: So he yelled for his wife, Hey, we got to 424 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: get out of there. They ran around, they grabbed their 425 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 4: cell phones and like a bag they hadn't unpacked with 426 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 4: some critical stuff, and before. 427 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: They could hit the door, it was chest hot. Oh 428 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 2: my god. Yeah. 429 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: Oh I can't imagine the panic. Yeah yeah, yeah, just awful. Anyway, 430 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 4: it's a tragedy. So on a completely different topic, I 431 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 4: heard on vacation. I was trying not to, you know, 432 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: check into the news much because it's good for the 433 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: soul to check out for a while. But I did 434 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: hear that Katangi Brown Jackson and Amy Cony Barrett were 435 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 4: in a bit of a middle aged berobed women cat fight. 436 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 437 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: I thought that's too good. 438 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: I just took in some of the headlines on that, 439 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: but didn't do a deep vie. But I thought, man, 440 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: this is an armstrong and getdy story right here. 441 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 442 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 4: Well, so it's so interesting because the New York Times 443 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: has this piece about it. Katanji Brown Jackson makes herself 444 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 4: heard prompting a rebuke, so that's their headline. She makes 445 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: herself heard up with women up with because she's a 446 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 4: black gal. 447 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: Of course, you know they're enthused about that. 448 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 4: Adam Liptak writing this story, and he mentions that she 449 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 4: wrote five majority opinions. That's the fewest any member of 450 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: the court, but her voice resonated nonetheless in an unusually 451 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 4: large number of concurring and dissenting opinions, several of them 452 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 4: warned that the Court was taking lawless shortcuts, et cetera, 453 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: et cetera. The final blockbuster case involving birthright citizenship. Actually 454 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: it had virtually nothing to do with birthright citizenship, is 455 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: about nationwide injunctions, but she called it an existential threat 456 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 4: to the rule of law. Then Liptack goes on to 457 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: say Justice Jackson is the Court's newest member, having just 458 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: concluded her third t Other justices have said it took 459 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 4: them years to find their footing, but Justice Jackson, the 460 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: first black woman to serve on the Court, quickly emerged 461 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: as a forceful critic of her conservative colleagues and lately 462 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 4: their approach to the Trump agenda. Her opinions, sometimes joined 463 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 4: by no other justices, have been subject as scornful criticism, 464 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: but also criticism from the other two liberal members of 465 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: the wing. And he doesn't get into the fact that 466 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 4: she talks more than any other justice on the Court. So, okay, 467 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 4: let's forget ideology and the courts here. I think we're 468 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: both going in the same direction. That's an interesting reading 469 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 4: of that. So it's brave of her to not do 470 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 4: what other justices have done, where you show up as 471 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 4: the newbie. 472 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: And kind of, you know, learn the ropes. 473 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: Get your sea legs, figure out how this whole thing works, 474 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 4: and ease into it. The fact that she shows up 475 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 4: and talks like five times as much as any other 476 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 4: justice they see as brave and a good thing. 477 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: Who would read it that way? 478 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: Well, and unless she's unless she's these blistering descents in 479 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 4: which the other two liberals are like, oh, too far. 480 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 4: But that's admiral. She's heard prompting a rebuke. Okay, super 481 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: But I was gonna say, you know, put that to 482 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. You're you're in a technology company, you're 483 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: you're you're running an auto rental agency or something. And 484 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: the new person comes in and and doesn't care about 485 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: tradition and talks more than anybody, and and. 486 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: Even her allies think that's not admirable. That's dumb, right 487 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: and annoying. Yeah. 488 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 4: So the National Review surprisingly had a different take on 489 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 4: the whole thing, just as Jackson's misguided attack on written law, 490 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 4: but they mentioned that, oh, I think it's back here. 491 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 4: Amy Cony Barrett was rather. 492 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: Direct in saying her. 493 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I forgot I lost the quote. I apologize. 494 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 4: She said that the scathing descent that everybody's paying it 495 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 4: tention to, there it is here. 496 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: It is sorry. 497 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: We will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is 498 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 4: at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, 499 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: not to mention the Constitution itself, which is a little 500 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 4: condescending E. But I like it that the principal dissent 501 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: focuses on conventional legal terrain. Justice Jackson, however, chooses a 502 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 4: startling line of attack that is tethered neither to these 503 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 4: sources nor frankly to. 504 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: Any doctrine whatsoever. That's really direct. 505 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 4: Right, That leads me to believe that she's like the 506 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: ultimate example of outcomes. I work for the outcomes that 507 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 4: I want, as opposed to looking at the law on 508 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: this and deciding what fits the Constitution and what doesn't. 509 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, saying essentially there's no legal reasoning here. 510 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 4: The National Review Dan McLoughlin, writing about it, talks about 511 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 4: the fairly mundane, very legalistic, you know, nature of the case. 512 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 4: Yet this case produced an anguished and histrionic descent from 513 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 4: Justice Katanji Brown Jackson that included an assault on textualism 514 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: so overwrought that even Justice Sonya Soto Mayor pointedly refused 515 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 4: to join the footnote that included it as a progressive judge. 516 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: When Kagan thinks you're wrong, and Soda Mayor thinks you've 517 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 4: gone overboard. 518 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: You should probably rethink your choices. 519 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: So ultimately it was a step toward lower courts can't 520 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 4: constantly jump in and stop things the president's trying to do. 521 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: Is that what happened? Yeah, that's correct. 522 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would take a long time to explain it, 523 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: and I'd have to do a fair amount of reading 524 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: to explain it. 525 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: Well, but yeah, that's the long and short of it. 526 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 4: Interesting, it did seem like it was happening a lot. 527 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: On the other hand, we have presidents, you know, going 528 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 4: several administrations back making law for the entire land with 529 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 4: their pen and their phone a lot more than they 530 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 4: used to. Yeah, and Tim Sanda for interestingly, we talked 531 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 4: about this briefly. He actually agreed substantially with Jackson's conclusion 532 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: that if the government is behaving unconstitutionally in District two, 533 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: well they're behaving unconstitutionally everywhere because of the nature of 534 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: our constitution, and so they ought to be stopped everywhere. 535 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: It's it's a minority opinion. 536 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 4: But whenever Tim including shouting for liberty, I'm at least 537 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 4: inclined to listen. 538 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: It's a minority opinion, including among the Supreme Court justices. 539 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah, and even among the liberals 540 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 4: at least in terms of her unhinged in histrionic descent. 541 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 4: But unlike you know, like gay marriage or something, this 542 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 4: seems like one of those things that we're going to 543 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 4: wrestle with as a as a country, as a government 544 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: for a while. This is one of those big things 545 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 4: that's going to have to get figured out over time. 546 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: I would agree, because a lot of the norms of 547 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 4: yesteryear don't apply anymore, and so some of the rules 548 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: that were utterly unnecessary about you know, dozens and dozens 549 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: and dozens of injunctions limiting what the president is trying 550 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: to do. Tim pointed out, well, you've got presidents trying 551 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: to do stuff they shouldn't do over and over again 552 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 4: now because that norm has been chucked out. Yeah, it's 553 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 4: uncertain territory and not terribly pleasant either. 554 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't. 555 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: Go news blackout on vacation. I never do that for 556 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 4: a couple of reasons. One, I'm just you know, a 557 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: guy likes the news and it is curried about the 558 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: currius about the news. And two it wouldn't be the 559 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: best thing for my job to be completely out of 560 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 4: touch with what's going on for a week and a half, 561 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 4: but definitely less news than I normally do. And I 562 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: feel like having a being a little closer to where 563 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 4: most voters are in terms of just like barely knowing 564 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: what's going on. 565 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: And it's kind of funny to think. 566 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: That the majority, the vast majority of people vote with 567 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 4: just a little bit of information somewhere between a little 568 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: bit and none about most major stories. 569 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: Right right. 570 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 4: You know, I was troubled by a couple of stories 571 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 4: I checked into because, like, for instance, the New York 572 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: Times thing, there are a couple of examples I thought, 573 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 4: oh my god, that's misleading. Yeah, like them characterizing the 574 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: big beautiful bill the tax reform is benefits mostly the rich, 575 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: even though they themselves called that false when. 576 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: It was originally passed. 577 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: And as I pointed out before, yes, tax relief helps 578 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 4: people who pay taxes more than it helps people who 579 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 4: don't pay taxes. But the point being, most voters get 580 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 4: only just a little snippet of information and they base 581 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 4: their judgments on that, which is why political pros would 582 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 4: say to guys like us, hey, I appreciate all your 583 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 4: high falutant ideas and the love of the constitution, blah 584 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 4: blah blah. No, we either scare them or we bribe 585 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: them get in the poll to go go to the polls. 586 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 4: It's amazing that this works because obviously you have very 587 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: very smart people like the tim Sanderfers of the world, 588 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: who do deep dives into the issues in the you know, 589 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: all the policy papers and all these different think tanks 590 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 4: out So it occurs at that level for some people. 591 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: But the vote. 592 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: Then comes down to people who are, like I said, 593 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 4: somewhere between having none and a little bit of information 594 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 4: on the vote. So it's amazing this whole thing works 595 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 4: at all. It barely does, and I'm not sure how 596 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: long it will. But to pairphrase Charles Krauthammer, as we 597 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: often have, if you can scare and or bribe the 598 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: herd into voting the right way, then you can. 599 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: Do the things that matter. 600 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: And that's why those think tanks exist in those policy papers, 601 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: because once you get the keys to the car. 602 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: You got to figure out where to drive it. 603 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: I have got to talk about the performance artist I 604 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 4: saw in one of the most famous hippie parks in 605 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: the world, Washington Square Park in New York, among other things, 606 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 4: we get to stay here. 607 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: So I just got back from vacation. I took the 608 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: boys to Florida. 609 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: We were gonna spend the entire week plus a couple 610 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 4: of days in Florida, but we got too dang hot. 611 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 4: I had a really really good time while we were there, 612 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 4: saw so many drag queens, flipped our jet ski, I 613 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 4: cut myself, I bled a lot. Luckily I wasn't eaten 614 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: by sharks. I'll have to talk about that later. But 615 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 4: so I decided on a spur of the moment, I thought, 616 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: what can we do while we're here on the East Coast. 617 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: So we flipped in New York. My kids have never 618 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: been to New York. I love New York. 619 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 4: And Henry wanted to see some of the stuff from 620 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 4: the Dylan movie because he's really into the Bob Dylan movie. 621 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 4: So we went to Greenwich Village. We went to Cafe 622 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 4: a Cafe Wah, which is the first place he goes 623 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: in that movie, and just stuff like that. But we 624 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 4: went to Washington Square Park, which is Greenwich Village. And 625 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 4: if you've ever seen a movie about hippies, you've seen 626 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 4: that park. The big arch there. It's like hippie Central. 627 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 4: I mean the hippie Central back in the day was there. 628 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 4: And in San Francisco, those are your two spots. All 629 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: your favorite hippies have been to Washington Square Park and 630 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: it's still full of all kinds of college kids. NYU's 631 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 4: right there and all kinds of interesting stuff and h 632 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 4: We get there and it's it's beautiful evening, crowded, very festive. 633 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: My son was oldest son was really digging the vibe, 634 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 4: very very artsy, fartsy. We probably all got high, it 635 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 4: was so thick with marijuana smoke. But there was this 636 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: chick doing some performance art. She had a big piece 637 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 4: of paper spread out on the sidewalk and a bowl 638 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 4: of black paint, and she would dip her really really 639 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 4: long hair into the paint and then she would swing 640 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 4: around making all these body movements to this wacky music 641 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 4: she was playing, and then she would paint with her 642 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 4: bare feet and hands and her hair on this big 643 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 4: piece of paper. And my kids are not really into 644 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 4: that sort of thing, and they were, they were mocking 645 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 4: it under their. 646 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: Breath, as was their father. 647 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: A lot of h that symbolizes mans and humanity to man, obviously, 648 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 4: you know that sort of thing. 649 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: Oh how was she clad? Just out of curious? 650 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 4: The human soul wrestling with its id clearly is what's 651 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 4: going on here. She was wearing like a black loose 652 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: dress of course, sort of hippie looking thing. 653 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 654 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 4: And what I couldn't figure out while this woman was 655 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 4: dancing around making this is because I reading people's faces 656 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: gathered around it. It seemed like there were way more 657 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: people closer to our point of view than her point 658 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 4: of view. 659 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it. 660 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: Seemed like a lot of more of what the hell 661 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: is this? Or does she think this is actually art? 662 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: Or is there anybody here that's buying this? I mean, 663 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: it seemed like there was a lot more of that 664 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 4: going on even in Washington Square Park than people who 665 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 4: were really touched by her deep emotional expression. 666 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: I'd want to ask her. 667 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: Just for the same arguing, what if you indeed were 668 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 4: dancing out the struggle of mankind against the cosmos? 669 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 2: Whipping your hair about, but. 670 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 4: The result was kind of random nonsense with that still 671 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 4: be good art? 672 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: Quick question? 673 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 4: If I was bad at this, would anybody be able 674 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 4: to tell the difference? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, How long 675 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: did it take you to get this good at this 676 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: or like, was it the first time I feel like 677 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 4: I could do this having never done it before? Would 678 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 4: be yeah, Wow, that's got to be a standard for art, 679 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 4: doesn't it. If you were as good as you'll ever 680 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 4: get the first time you did it. 681 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I don't know. 682 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 4: We were over at the Met. I mean in the 683 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 4: modern art wing. I mean, it really looks like you 684 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 4: could do that the first time, and it's in the Met. 685 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: I mean, that's one of the most famous museums in 686 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 4: the world. So I don't know, I'm the wrong, gotta ask. 687 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, google emperors who have no close So 688 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 4: discipline is returning to schools. 689 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: Certain red states have said. 690 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, this whole restorative justice nonsense is crap. So the 691 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 4: tide is turning on that issue as well. We've got 692 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 4: a long way to go, but that's good news. Tough 693 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: times for Elon Musk, but he's starting a new political party. 694 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: All next hour, stay 695 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 4: With us, Armstrong and Getty