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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, June seventh, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 2: episode number ten. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 2: We are alive from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. This is our final show before we

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Speaker 5: I need a break, guys, and so we're gonna take

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Speaker 5: a little break here.

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Speaker 2: We got about I don't know, six weeks or so

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Speaker 9: This is not something new, even when I was with

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Speaker 2: And this is just because I was talking to Amber,

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Speaker 2: Cowboys break. We're in our nineteen season now, but last

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Speaker 10: Podcast you guys have ever created, right.

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Speaker 2: No, actually, actually the first one was a night it

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Speaker 2: was Talking Cowboys, but it was Nick and Mickey, and

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Speaker 11: Six thirty eight, we started at six thirty Mickey went

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Speaker 11: for eight minutes talking think about this really two people's

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Speaker 5: Eight minutes without even mentioning, and Chris.

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Speaker 8: But I mean, what are you gonna do? Eight minutes?

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Speaker 11: You got you know, patients and me doesn't work together,

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Speaker 2: You guys out there might not know Nick personally, I'm

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Speaker 9: Like, I'm I have done a segment on radio where

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Speaker 5: Who's the host? Why didn't host shut that down?

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Speaker 9: I was always wondered why Derek said, listen, you and

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Speaker 9: We just don't like each other and we really don't.

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Speaker 9: He says hello, I say hello back. I mean, but

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Speaker 11: So yeah, yeah. It goes both ways for sure. But

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're gonna play this scene.

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Speaker 9: one final cut. You know, you're absolutely right. A great

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about a little bit of news that came

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Speaker 5: He says he was.

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Speaker 3: Two squast game.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm excited about that now, I'm sure you are.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to travel.

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Speaker 2: But Steven was talking about the extensions that are coming

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Speaker 2: Think is the most challenging to get done? And I'm

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Speaker 5: What do you think is most challenging to get done?

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Speaker 8: The most challenging I bet we could say together is Digs.

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Speaker 11: Because okay, he he's gonna get paid.

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Speaker 8: He want to be paid as the highest paid corner

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Speaker 11: And if you look at the money and you look

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Speaker 5: From Green Bay, Zaire Alexander.

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Speaker 11: Alexander, and I believe Denzel Ward. I think those are

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Speaker 3: Well, well, Ramsey's still up there.

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Speaker 11: I think those are the three that are twenty north

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Speaker 8: Yeah he did well.

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Speaker 9: I think they moved around money is what they did.

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Speaker 9: But at one time he was one of the guys that.

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Speaker 11: there's nothing that tray Von Diggs has done that suggests

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Speaker 11: He also has a brother in the league that that's

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Speaker 10: And right now. I mean, despite what he has done,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, if you look at the numbers, like Nick was

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Speaker 9: Denzel Ward is at twenty million a year, rams He's

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Speaker 9: still at twenty million a year, Marlon Humphrey at nineteen million,

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Speaker 9: where your starting point right here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I wouldn't think if the agent, that's

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Speaker 8: what I would do.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 9: The thing about it is that you know, he he

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Speaker 9: You know that's obviously going to go up, especially with

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Speaker 9: going to be a tough one. The one I think

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Speaker 9: that gets done because I think that and this is

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Speaker 9: So you know, I would anticipate maybe you know, three

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Speaker 3: As the as the contracts continue to go up, that's

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Speaker 9: I think the Cowboys have to take care first, because

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Speaker 9: that's the massive cap hit that they're looking at right now.

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Speaker 3: But Todd Franz is not a fun guy to deal with.

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Speaker 9: He fights tooth and nail for his guys, and rightfully,

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Speaker 9: so you know, the Cowboys understand that they've done this before,

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Speaker 9: They've been through this dance. I think the Dak one

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Speaker 3: It seems like they're all hitting on the books, and

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Speaker 11: And as soon as you get those guys done, those

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's gonna be I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, they know that.

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Speaker 9: And it's funny because you're thinking about where would you

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Speaker 8: His agent's gonna be like, oh, he's an age.

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Speaker 9: Well yeah, you ask people in the organization you know

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. You pay the guy that's that well, it's.

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Speaker 2: Hard to say when you got a guy that's that's

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Speaker 5: Legitimately, yes, almost every year. He's been every year. So

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Speaker 8: Just got to pay that rights. They players in the league,

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Speaker 8: and he should be.

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Speaker 9: That's exactly there. They they it's not like it's there's

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Speaker 9: any question. It's like they know what they're up against

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Speaker 2: Question is just how do you move money around for him?

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Speaker 9: That's that's really that's what the quarterbacks to come in

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, see, to me, I would think CD sounds

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Speaker 10: his quote unquote successor, Like who's going to take up

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Speaker 10: But I think for the Cowboys, I don't I mean,

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Speaker 10: I don't see any how would why do you extend

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Speaker 9: If I give you Terry mcclurin from the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 5: He's farther down the list though, right as far as

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Speaker 3: I'm giving you a starting point. Yeah, twenty three million

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Speaker 9: Actually it's it's Tarik Hill at thirty, Davante Adams at

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Speaker 5: I think you're going to have him up there.

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Speaker 2: I honestly think he's gonna be. He's going to be

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Speaker 9: He's somewhere between Cooper Cup, AJ Brown and Diggs somewhere

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Speaker 5: That exactly right.

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Speaker 5: He is a legitimate top five receiver in the NFL.

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Speaker 11: I mean, McLaren's got like three catches against the Cowboys

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Speaker 9: That's a third round pick though right there too. Mclauren, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: those years of playing on low, low salaries and now

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Speaker 11: And they're like, oh, well, McLaren, he's tough, and I

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Speaker 11: I haven't looked at the CD's contract that close, but

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Speaker 9: Yeah, because he got the year, Yeah, the tag, so

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Speaker 11: jump is going to be mass.

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Speaker 9: You're your first really seventeen million dollar player is Mike

448
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Speaker 9: Evans at sixteen to five, and then Tyler Lockett is

449
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Speaker 9: at seventeen to three, and then now we got Kirk

450
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Speaker 9: and guys like that.

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Speaker 8: You're right there, he's twenty six, twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: That's where it's going to start, I would assume for

453
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Speaker 2: his eight. If it's not starting higher than that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And so then it's going to be a negotiating back.

455
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Speaker 2: And so that's the tough part. It's hard to argue

456
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Speaker 2: that any of these guys we mentioned shouldn't get a deal,

457
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Speaker 2: and it shouldn't be in the range of those top players.

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Speaker 5: It's just a matter of how does Dallas where do.

459
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Speaker 2: They fit in that top range, and how do you

460
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Speaker 2: structure the contract so that when they all hit you're

461
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Speaker 2: not just completely in cap hell.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, which this might be an unfair question. Which of

463
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Speaker 9: the groups that I just went through the wide receiver

464
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Speaker 9: numbers or the cornerback numbers were the most shocking, and

465
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Speaker 9: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Shocking, and like, man, I panic.

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Speaker 2: Guy, you know, actually, actually, actually it would be wide

468
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Speaker 2: receiver for me because I would think, honestly, I would

469
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Speaker 2: think those two positions would match up comparably, like what

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Speaker 2: you would pay for your top receiver. You'd probably pay

471
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Speaker 2: the sum amount for your top or maybe even a

472
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Speaker 2: little bit more for your cornerback, because I think it's

473
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Speaker 2: harder to find great cornerbacks than maybe it is to

474
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Speaker 2: find great receivers, especially in today's NFL, So I would

475
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Speaker 2: have thought.

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Speaker 5: The premium would be a little higher on cornerback.

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Speaker 2: To think that the top cornerback was what twenty three

478
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Speaker 2: and the top receivers thirty, Yeah, that to me is

479
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Speaker 2: somewhat shocking.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but I look at it from the cornerback standpoint

481
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Speaker 11: of the guys there and and and I know it's

482
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Speaker 11: different when you don't play like fantasy football factors then

483
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Speaker 11: because you kind of know who the studs are at receivers, corners,

484
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Speaker 11: not not the same. But still, when I look at

485
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Speaker 11: those names, I don't even I mean, we know the league,

486
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Speaker 11: we study these guys, where we watch them those names

487
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Speaker 11: don't jump out to me as twenty two to twenty

488
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Speaker 11: three million dollars a year. Guys, that's the market, that's

489
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Speaker 11: what it is. But I mean even Diggs, I mean,

490
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Speaker 11: as Amber just said, Diggs is going to be maybe

491
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Speaker 11: the highest and he's got some flaws in his game.

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Speaker 8: That people love to point out. I don't think they're

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Speaker 8: that big.

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Speaker 2: Is it easier though, to point out those flaws in

495
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Speaker 2: a cornerback than it is a receiver because you think

496
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Speaker 2: about like this, A receiver has four or five catches

497
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Speaker 2: in a game, and if one of them is a touchdown,

498
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Speaker 2: they had a great day. Yeah, out of all the

499
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Speaker 2: snaps they had, they had four or five really great moments.

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Speaker 2: For cornerback, they could have great coverage all day, give

501
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Speaker 2: up one touchdown, it's a horrible day.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: So it's like you can you can point out the Yeah,

504
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Speaker 2: you can point out the flaws of a cornerback a

505
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Speaker 2: lot easier then you can point out the flaws and

506
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Speaker 2: a wide receiver.

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Speaker 8: That's yeah, and that's what happens.

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Speaker 11: But I still I look at those names and I

509
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Speaker 11: get a little surprised that they're at that range.

510
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Speaker 9: Is there anybody on this team that you could say

511
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Speaker 9: that you feel good enough to let a receiver or

512
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Speaker 9: a corner walk. I think you're better protected at corner

513
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Speaker 9: if you let you feel like that.

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Speaker 5: I don't even want to entertain this conversation. I do

515
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Speaker 5: not want.

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Speaker 2: I don't There's no scenario I think for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: No, No, that's not what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

518
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Speaker 2: I'm saying there's no scenario for me, as a bystander

519
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Speaker 2: that's watching the Cowboys that has an interest in wanting

520
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Speaker 2: them to win, would want them to let either Lamb

521
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Speaker 2: or Digs go.

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Speaker 5: You better figure out something else.

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Speaker 2: If you got to let somebody else go, Lamb, Digs

524
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Speaker 2: and Micah, they better be here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I've seen Larry Brown have success when Dion was on

527
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Speaker 11: the other side. And I think when you keep when

528
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Speaker 11: you have star players here, you can elevate the play

529
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Speaker 11: of others. And so doing whatever I can, and if

530
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Speaker 11: that means that you have to to play a lot

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Speaker 11: more of the Ron Bland types and next year's rookies

532
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Speaker 11: and all that, you deal with it.

533
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Speaker 8: Because they can draft. We know they can draft.

534
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Speaker 3: They can't draft. That's the thing about which which.

535
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Speaker 11: Holden that could be the reason why. That could be

536
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Speaker 11: your argument of why you don't though, Well, because they

537
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Speaker 11: can draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's also part of it. Like, because you

539
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Speaker 2: can draft, I can have a top heavy roster. I

540
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Speaker 2: can have four or five guys that make the bulk

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Speaker 2: of the salary, and I'll draft and fill in my

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Speaker 2: depth because I'm good at draft.

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Speaker 5: That's the way I well.

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Speaker 9: The thing about it is one of the positions we

545
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Speaker 9: were talking about was receiver, and now there's questions about Tolbert.

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Speaker 3: You know that's a draft yeah, you know.

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Speaker 9: So now you're sitting there thinking if you had if say,

548
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Speaker 9: if Tolbert would have been or Gallop would have been.

549
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Speaker 9: Now now you're thinking, okay, if one of these guys walk,

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Speaker 9: you feel I feel better that if Diggs walked, I

551
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Speaker 9: would feel better about playing Bland, then I would maybe

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Speaker 9: play in Gallop or Tat or Tolbert right now in

553
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Speaker 9: this place.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I get that point and replacement value, I yeah,

555
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Speaker 13: theither one I was going anywhere before twenty five because

556
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Speaker 13: twenty yeah, twenty twenty four season, because they will franchise

557
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Speaker 13: Tag Digs if he can't get done, and and CD's already.

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Speaker 11: Under contract yea, and dak is under contract as well too,

559
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Speaker 11: So this is a this.

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Speaker 2: Is a future problem, somewhat future problem. But at the

561
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Speaker 2: end of the day, I don't.

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Speaker 5: See a scenario go down on those players. But when

563
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Speaker 5: those players are not on this team, I just I

564
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Speaker 5: don't want to see that.

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Speaker 3: Would you take a swing? Can we do this? Can you?

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Speaker 3: Would you take a swing and go ahead and try

567
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Speaker 3: and get Parsons done? Now you can't, can you? I mean,

568
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm trying to think of I'm trying.

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Speaker 11: He has to be three years in the league unless

570
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Speaker 11: they've changed that. I think he's got to be three.

571
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Speaker 3: I know that. I think I'm I think I think

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Speaker 3: you're right back. That's why I asked the question.

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Speaker 2: Why when you said that, it just hit me. This

574
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Speaker 2: dude's only been in the league two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think you're I think you're also right. Yeah,

576
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Speaker 3: you're right.

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Speaker 8: You can't. He's got to wait.

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Speaker 3: One more year.

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Speaker 9: This time next year, when we're having the break in June,

580
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Speaker 9: we can talk about.

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Speaker 3: Oh but yeah, I to me, if if.

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Speaker 9: You could though, if you if he was eligible, yeah,

583
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Speaker 9: started I'd go. I'd go right now. I just go

584
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Speaker 9: right now and try, you know, everybody else. You're kind

585
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Speaker 9: of like, I'm sorry, we're gonna work on this one first.

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Speaker 5: That's also part of it.

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Speaker 2: Like I do wonder if Steven's The point of Stephen's

588
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Speaker 2: comments was to basically say, it's kind of like and

589
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Speaker 2: then I want to make this analogy, but I'm gonna

590
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Speaker 2: make this analogy. It's kind of like when you have

591
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Speaker 2: a group of people that all get in trouble and

592
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Speaker 2: the police are talking to them. They're like, we're only

593
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Speaker 2: giving one deal here. So whoever jumps in first and

594
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Speaker 2: it's willing to switch on everybody else, you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: the deal.

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Speaker 3: They did it with Jalen Smith.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's like they'll tell you, they'll tell you

598
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Speaker 9: they're open for business, but we have to agree on business.

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Speaker 3: We're open, but we have to agree.

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Speaker 2: And whoever jumps in first make it the best deal.

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Speaker 2: So jump in now.

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Speaker 11: Jalen was was smart and that because he did he knew,

603
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Speaker 11: he saw what he knew that he didn't have it anymore.

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Speaker 11: And he he kind of got to the cowboys before

605
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Speaker 11: they got to him. Yeah, and when we're like, wow,

606
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Speaker 11: everyone was surprised by that deal because I think deep down,

607
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Speaker 11: even though he made a Pro Bowl before. He knew

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Speaker 11: that was the times egg and the knee was not

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Speaker 11: where it should be.

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Speaker 5: Well, at the very least, he knew, this is the

611
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Speaker 5: best it's gonna get. I'm coming the Pro Bowl year.

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Speaker 5: Even if I stay at this level, I'm not going

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Speaker 5: to do better than that.

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Speaker 9: Now, he also knew the organization was growing tired of

615
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Speaker 9: dealing with Zeke, and why not go in there and

616
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Speaker 9: get some game.

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Speaker 10: Businessman about Dak real quick. I kind of forgot his

618
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Speaker 10: whole situation. It's in the deal as far as like

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Speaker 10: you apply the extension and this is the amount, or

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Speaker 10: is there some type of negotiation negotiation that needs to

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Speaker 10: happen again.

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Speaker 9: They got to negotiate because of his cap number. They're

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Speaker 9: gonna have to.

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Speaker 3: They've got to extend it to bring the cap number down.

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Speaker 8: I think there's an option that he could avoid. I

626
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Speaker 8: think it's a void.

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Speaker 11: I mean, that's one of the things I need to

628
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Speaker 11: get a little bit better about knowing. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 11: it's something that's there, but it's like all it's not

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Speaker 11: like it's an inspiring contract.

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Speaker 8: It's got to be something that they They.

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Speaker 9: The cap guys love it when we talk about the cap.

633
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Speaker 9: You know, they just love that we sit there and

634
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Speaker 9: recklessly speculated things.

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Speaker 3: Like you don't know, like like Brian, why would you

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Speaker 3: say that? Brian? You know that kind of thing.

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 2: Our produce I'm sure is losing his mind over there.

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Speaker 2: We've gone chrisy two second. It's without without our break.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna take a break right here. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: come back. We're gonna dive a little bit into the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three of you. We'll talk really quickly about

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Speaker 2: the defensive line and the secondary. We'll be back, Dallas

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Speaker 8: Hey, honey, can we talk, of course?

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 12: I just thought you should know I've been curious about

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Speaker 12: the new Doctor Pepper Strawberries and Cream.

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Speaker 6: I just think I'd really like the taste of doctor

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Speaker 3: If you feel that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, I gotta ask the simple question. Are they

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Speaker 2: better worse of the same. Let's start with the defensive

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Speaker 2: line after the changes that have been made. Are they

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Speaker 2: better worse or the same?

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Speaker 8: Defensive line?

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Speaker 3: Better?

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Speaker 8: Better?

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Speaker 3: Better? Better?

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Speaker 9: They've resigned Hankins in Ma's and that's what I think,

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Speaker 9: and they and I think, to me, you kind of

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Speaker 9: understand now what you're I think Osa is going to

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Speaker 9: be on the rise. I believe that you're also talking

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Speaker 9: what they're going to do with Chauncey Golston, believe it

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Speaker 9: or not, a defensive tackle. I think they've got some

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Speaker 11: Anytime you can go over the first round pick in

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Speaker 11: defensive tackle, that's a spot that they typically don't address

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Speaker 11: that that high. But they, you know, by doing that,

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Speaker 11: right in the middle of that core of the defensive line.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, I say better.

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Speaker 10: Exactly what they said. You still have all your core guys,

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Speaker 10: that your main guys, main starters that you need and

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Speaker 10: But then on top of that, you add a first

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Speaker 10: like he's ready to go and just what he needs

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Speaker 10: to be. There's no more weight needed to be put on,

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Speaker 10: and I think he'll be. He'll be of great impact

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Speaker 10: this year.

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Speaker 2: If there was one weakness from this unit last year,

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Speaker 2: it was and really the last couple of years, it

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Speaker 2: was the run defense. It actually was better in my

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Speaker 2: opinion last year than it was the year before with

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Speaker 2: the added edition of Hankins. That being said, if you

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Speaker 2: what would it be.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question because I'll think about it quickly.

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Speaker 9: But they Okay, when they didn't have Hankins, they didn't

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Speaker 9: have anything in the run defense, and that killed him.

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Speaker 3: They got Milesy. That takes care of that.

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Speaker 9: If what if Sam Williams is not as good as

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Speaker 9: what we think he's going to be, now they can

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Speaker 3: They say, whoa Brian they got Dort's.

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Speaker 9: Armstrong and they got good, but you also are hoping

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Speaker 9: that Sam Williams is everything and more. I think Dorn's

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Speaker 9: Armstrong is a good player. I like what he's been,

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Speaker 9: I like what he's done the last couple of years.

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Speaker 9: I think he's gotten better under this defensive staff. But man,

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Speaker 9: if Sam Williams can come in here and hit the

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Speaker 9: home run and just take that right defensive end position over,

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Speaker 9: then this defense is got chance to be really good.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think for me, and as great as he

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Speaker 11: is Micah Parsons, he's he's outstanding there. But they got

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Speaker 11: season figuring out, Okay, when they put him at outside

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Speaker 11: attack it. Philly did a good job. There's some other

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Speaker 11: teams that did a good job there. If I'm in

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Speaker 11: the NFC East, or even if he's on if the

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Speaker 11: and neutralize him. So I think that's gonna be something

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Speaker 11: the Cowboys have to offset as well. It's not just

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Speaker 11: Sometimes it's third and five, and he's got to make

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Speaker 8: So that right there is the key.

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Speaker 11: I mean, he is an outstanding player, there's no doubt,

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Speaker 10: I can't think of any weakness. I'm sorry, like right now,

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Speaker 10: because if this guy isn't as good, for example, that

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Speaker 10: same theory can be applied to every other position on

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Speaker 10: for it. So I feel pretty confident of all the

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and just going I'm looking at the roster right now,

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Speaker 9: and I should have said this to start the jump.

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Speaker 9: If Osa, I think is going to be really really good. Okay,

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Speaker 9: Neville Gallimore kind of an off year last year. I

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Speaker 9: out or you know, he's not able to play.

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Speaker 3: Who is that three technique?

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Speaker 9: Who is going to be the three that steps up,

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Speaker 9: but it seems like he went into the doghouse last year.

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Speaker 9: People were jumping over him, you know, for opportunities and reps.

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Speaker 9: So maybe the depth that the three might be in question.

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Speaker 9: You know what would well, well, the situation with him

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Speaker 11: Dan Quinn was it about. Dan Quinn was like, he's

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he had mentioned in an interview that he had

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Speaker 11: And I've said this before. They're going to lose the

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Speaker 5: If you feel that way.

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Speaker 8: I think you should try it, babe. It's amazing.

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Speaker 12: I mean, you're amazing.

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Speaker 5: you deserve Back to the break.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It is the final segment of the Break Life from

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Speaker 2: the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the starts our final

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Speaker 2: segment before we take a little bit of a hiatus.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, let's talk about the secondary. I want to

904
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: start first looking at the looking at the secondary, and

905
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: my first question for you when I when I look

906
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Speaker 2: at the whole group is does the addition of Gilmour

907
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: slow the progress of Bland. Bland was I think a

908
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: very large bright spot for this team last year.

909
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 5: He was a young guy that.

910
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Speaker 2: Was drafted a little bit later but played really good football.

911
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: Do you think this slows his progress as a player?

912
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 11: Yes, and a good thing. I mean, that's okay. I mean,

913
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 11: there's progress stopper sounds like a bad thing. There's a

914
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Speaker 11: lot of guys whose progress is getting stopped. But you know,

915
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 11: I mean, Jalen Tolbert's progress is getting stop by the

916
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 11: addition of Brandon Cooks. But guess what if you would

917
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 11: have had a better rookie year and we wouldn't have

918
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 11: how to get Brandon Cooks.

919
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: But Bland did have a good rookie.

920
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 8: He had a good year.

921
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 11: But then again, Jordan Lewis's injury is going to allow

922
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 11: Jordan I mean Deron Bland to play a lot. I mean,

923
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 11: I think and even Deron Bland might even be the

924
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 11: better guy anyways for the slot.

925
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Speaker 8: So I don't know.

926
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Speaker 11: If it stops his progress as much stop some of

927
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Speaker 11: those other cornerbacks that are drafted in the second third

928
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Speaker 11: round two years ago. I think it stops their progress

929
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Speaker 11: in the Sean Wright, Kelvin Joseph, But not so much

930
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Speaker 11: Bland because I do think he's got a role.

931
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that with the thing with Bland is

932
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Speaker 9: that to me, if they're going to play him at

933
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Speaker 9: let him learn the nickel, let him learn that slot position,

934
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Speaker 9: because that could be super valuable. The more that the

935
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Speaker 9: more experience he gets working in that area. If you,

936
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Speaker 9: like I say, if you got Gilmore and Diggs and

937
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Speaker 9: then and just let him focus on nickel, then all

938
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Speaker 9: of a sudden, when it turns when it becomes his

939
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Speaker 9: time to be a starter, say Gilmore moves on. Bland

940
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Speaker 9: now has played, He's played at a high level at

941
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Speaker 9: nickel slot. He now can play on the outside. Man

942
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Speaker 9: that I think that's just I think that's just better

943
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Speaker 9: for him as the development of a because you play that,

944
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Speaker 9: you find a way to play that nickel slot, and

945
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Speaker 9: you do it well, you can stay in this league

946
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Speaker 9: a long time doing that well.

947
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Speaker 10: I know that during OTA's we saw him moving around

948
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Speaker 10: and doing being playing on the outside and also on

949
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Speaker 10: the inside, and I think that's a really good thing.

950
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Speaker 10: He looked pretty good on both, and I think that

951
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Speaker 10: just develops him even more. I don't think it always

952
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Speaker 10: sucks in that aspect when you bring a veteran in,

953
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Speaker 10: because it does take away from them, But also you

954
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Speaker 10: got to look at the positives and like what that

955
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Speaker 10: veteran can bring as far as knowledge. We've seen it

956
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Speaker 10: with a lot of veterans that come in here and

957
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Speaker 10: they start teaching the younger guys things that they know

958
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Speaker 10: and have experience, and that becomes a really good impact

959
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Speaker 10: for them. So I think it's actually a good thing.

960
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Speaker 10: And I don't think he's as of right now, he's

961
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Speaker 10: still progressing, and I don't think it's gonna be a problem.

962
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Speaker 3: You can't have enough corners.

963
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Speaker 9: We went through this last year, the year when we

964
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Speaker 9: were talking about me going out and there playing you

965
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Speaker 9: know some of them games.

966
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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't. You've got to have enough guys.

967
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Speaker 3: You just have to.

968
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Speaker 2: So assuming that Diggs, Gilmore, Bland are your top three,

969
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Speaker 2: knowing that Lewis is likely going to start camp and

970
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Speaker 2: be on pup four, I don't know how much time,

971
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Speaker 2: but obviously start there, who's the next guy? Because when

972
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Speaker 2: you start thinking about these cornerbacks, you got guys like

973
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Speaker 2: Kelvin Joseph, Na Sean Wright, Eric Scott even I've heard

974
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Speaker 2: some people talk about him.

975
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Speaker 5: Who's the next guy and.

976
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Speaker 2: Who should be really really concerned heading into training camp

977
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: knowing that if they don't produce and have a great camp,

978
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Speaker 2: they could be on the street.

979
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Speaker 11: Kelvin Joseph should be concerned by that. Just when you

980
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 11: watch the practice and kind of see who's doing what,

981
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 11: and where and all that.

982
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 8: Now, what helps him.

983
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Speaker 11: Is the fact that he was a really good player

984
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 11: on special teams when he's not having penalties. He's really

985
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 11: good on special teams. And they missed, they lost some

986
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 11: core guys on special teams last year. So if that's

987
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 11: your role, that's your role. And and yeah, you can

988
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 11: justify the second round pick, and that doesn't make sense

989
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 11: for just being a special teams days, but you better

990
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 11: be damn.

991
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 8: Good at it.

992
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 11: And you know, he made a he made a play

993
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 11: in the in the forty nine ers game where he

994
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 11: forced that fumble that that should have led to a touchdown.

995
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 11: It did not, but I'm just saying that could have

996
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 11: changed the whole game and season there. So if he's

997
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 11: not gonna play a lot of corner you better master

998
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 11: that special team spot.

999
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 9: I think I think you got to look at Naseean

1000
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 9: Wright though, too. You know, his situation stuff. You know,

1001
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 9: he needs to he kind of needs to figure some

1002
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 9: things out there, you know, Joseph.

1003
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: I think Joseph to move to safety.

1004
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Speaker 9: I think that's the direction they're going to go with him.

1005
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 9: I just feel like, though we'll see with Naseean Wright,

1006
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 9: that was one of those that you know, can he

1007
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 9: have a good enough camp to where he puts himself

1008
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Speaker 9: in the picture with the rest of these guys.

1009
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 11: I think like a wild card in this whole secondary

1010
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Speaker 11: is mccuamu because he has a skill set that you know,

1011
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 11: former Cornery both can play both ye and and and

1012
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 11: you know you've got you got Donovan Wilson, you got

1013
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 11: jay Ron Curse, you got Mollie Cooker, and two of

1014
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 11: those guys are gonna up with their contract next year.

1015
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 11: So maybe mcwama's going to play some safety after that.

1016
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 11: But they you know, we saw in that one playoff

1017
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 11: game where they had a role for him, mccamuu. And

1018
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Speaker 11: I think mcwamu is a guy that's going to factor into.

1019
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 5: This and could make Are you saying he could make

1020
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 5: all of them?

1021
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, just because because when you get to you know,

1022
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 11: your backup corners and safeties, the guys that do both.

1023
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 11: I mean, instead of taking five and five to the game,

1024
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 11: if you can take four and four and then one

1025
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 11: dual threat, that's nine that you take to the game,

1026
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 11: but really you're taking two.

1027
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 9: There's been a lot of praise being thrown onto Eric

1028
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 9: Scott right now, and just because of where he's lining up.

1029
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: So there the spotlights.

1030
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 9: On Eric Scott lining up just for clarity, Well, it

1031
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 9: is a corner, what higher in the depth charge? Yeah,

1032
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 9: Like he's like they have the junior varsity practicing on

1033
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 9: one field and the varsity and occasionally it's rare that

1034
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 9: you see a junior varsity player going down to the

1035
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 9: varsity field and getting work. And Eric Scott's the one

1036
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 9: guy that they seem to have thrown into the mix

1037
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 9: as like a schoonmaker. Before he was a little banged up,

1038
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 9: he was practicing on the varsity field with the ones,

1039
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 9: and now Eric Scott's getting opportunities to.

1040
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 8: Get And where's Kelvin Joseph.

1041
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: Kelvin Joseph is uh, he's kind of down on the right.

1042
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: And that's but those are the things I think that

1043
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: that as we again head into training camp, those will

1044
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: be the kinds of storylines that we will win following

1045
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: and you will be able to notice based upon how

1046
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 2: they're utilizing guys, what their thoughts are on on the

1047
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: guy's ability and where they think he falls on the

1048
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: depth charte.

1049
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 11: I mean, ce J Goodwin's not playing corner, but he

1050
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 11: does special teams real well. So if Kelvin Joseph, Hey,

1051
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 11: if that's your role.

1052
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 8: Kill it, kill it.

1053
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: That's absolutely right, all right, real quick, before in the show,

1054
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: I did want to bring up one topic that that

1055
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: I thought was interesting. This goes back to our news

1056
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Speaker 2: and notes that we were talking about earlier in the show.

1057
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Speaker 2: The Cowboys all but dismissed the possibility of DeAndre Hopkins

1058
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: coming here. He is now a free agent after he

1059
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: was let go by the Cardinals. That being said, do

1060
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: you agree with that assessment or do you think the

1061
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: Cowboys really should give some thought to bringing him to

1062
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: this team.

1063
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 8: I don't think there's a.

1064
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: So we could talk about it. Right he's free, he's free.

1065
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 8: He's free.

1066
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 5: I'll say his name as much as you want.

1067
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 8: I wouldn't give you five minutes Hopkins, I wouldn't do it.

1068
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 11: I think that what you know, and we said this,

1069
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 11: I think last week Odell Beckham's contract is sitting there.

1070
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 11: I think he's gonna want something in the neighborhood of that.

1071
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 11: The money we talked about all these other guys, it

1072
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 11: just doesn't seem like it would be a fit if.

1073
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 8: He comes here.

1074
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 11: Right now. Yeah, he's better than Gallup, There's no doubt

1075
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 11: he is, but I think for the roles and everything,

1076
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 11: I think everything's really defined. I think it clouds it

1077
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 11: up a little too much. You get a great player,

1078
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 11: he's going to be expensive. It clouds up your all

1079
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 11: a little bit. I don't think that's the best fit

1080
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 11: for him or the Cowboys.

1081
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 9: They're looking at a situation right now where Odell Beckham

1082
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 9: basically set the market for not even playing a whole year.

1083
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 9: I got fifteen million dollars for one year. I don't

1084
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 9: think the Cowboys are interested in that at.

1085
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 5: All, especially with all these deals coming up.

1086
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean you've heard it from the Cowboys. You've

1087
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 10: heard from Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Mike McCarthy. The way

1088
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 10: they've spoken about it sounds pretty clear that they're not

1089
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 10: because sometimes they leave it kind of up in the air,

1090
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 10: but it sounds very clear that they're not really looking

1091
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 10: to go that route. And what's crazy, Like, Hopkins to

1092
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 10: me was the first guy, the first wide receiver that

1093
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 10: I watched, not the first, I guess, the first that

1094
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 10: I was so impressed when I started watching NFL. I

1095
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 10: remember watching him. I'm just like, oh my god, who

1096
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 10: is that guy? That's when I first started and he

1097
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 10: I was a big fan of his and he's so

1098
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 10: talented and I think he can bring he can he

1099
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 10: can still bring a lot to the table, for sure,

1100
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 10: but does the many game money.

1101
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: They got their guy Cooks. They wanted Cooks last year

1102
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: at the trade deadline, Houston couldn't make it happen.

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Speaker 9: They got their guy. I think that they're set with

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00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 9: their room right now. They're trying to I'm not trying

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Speaker 9: to protect Tolbert, but they're letting Tolbert have an opportunity

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Speaker 9: to see if he can make it or not. And

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Speaker 9: I think that's why they didn't address in the draft

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Speaker 9: wide receiver until the very last pick. They're going to

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Speaker 9: see if Tolbert can play or not. And if he can,

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Speaker 9: they'll be fine. If they're not, then they'll just with

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Speaker 9: whatever they have to do.

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Speaker 2: Frankly, if he were free when free agency was going

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Speaker 2: on before the Cowboys signed Cooks, I think we'd have

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Speaker 2: a lot more to discuss on which one you take, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: because they're both very good, they have different skill sets,

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Speaker 2: and then you could talk more about who best fits

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Speaker 2: this offense. I think the decisions are made Cooks is here,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I think you just can't afford to

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Speaker 2: do what you would do.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, both.

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Speaker 11: I think I think running back would be addressed before

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Speaker 11: before that, before receiver. I wouldn't be surprised if running

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Speaker 11: back is addressed, maybe with a bigger name or not.

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Speaker 8: I mean, but that would make more sense to me.

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Speaker 3: Is he coming back he's.

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Speaker 8: A big name. I don't.

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Speaker 11: I don't think he is. Honestly, Jerry keeps saying that

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Speaker 11: doors not. You know, I think it's just that old.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were leading this to the water.

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Speaker 8: No, I don't you all just think running back.

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Speaker 11: I mean, like, like it makes sense when I look

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Speaker 11: at it. I just don't think Ronald Jones and Malik

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Speaker 11: Davis are gonna be.

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Speaker 9: If I felt if I felt better about I felt

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Speaker 9: better at one time about Malik Davis. Then all of

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Speaker 9: a sudden, he doesn't play at all in that forty

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Speaker 9: nine ers game, and I'm now I'm like going, something

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Speaker 9: happened there. You know, If Malik Davis plays in that

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Speaker 9: game and there he's able to get like fifty yards

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Speaker 9: rushing on you know, six seven carries or something, you know,

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Speaker 9: then I'm thinking, like they got a guy here, and

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Speaker 9: I think they do.

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Speaker 3: I like Malik Davis.

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Speaker 9: But something happened between the end of last season and

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Speaker 9: where we are right now, new coaching staff, basically on

1146
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 9: the offensive side of the ball. Maybe a fresh approach

1147
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 9: for him. Keep an eye on him. I think he's

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Speaker 9: a good player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will tell you this, Nick, If you think

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Speaker 2: about it, from the running back position, we keep hearing

1151
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: over and over there needs to be an increased.

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Speaker 5: Use of the running game.

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Speaker 2: And at the same time, I think the running game,

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Speaker 2: particularly the running back position, is probably a position where

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Speaker 2: we have more questions about than any other position on

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Speaker 2: the team. So if you think of from that perspective,

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Speaker 2: I could see where you're going there, and then you

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Speaker 2: would think at some point they are going to do more.

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Speaker 2: They have to do more because there's just too many

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Speaker 2: question marks there. But I could also see them going

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Speaker 2: into camp, seeing how camp goes, and then if they

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Speaker 2: feel like they got to make a move, trying to

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Speaker 2: make a move at that point rather than doing something.

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Speaker 11: But soon, if you really just think there's somebody out there,

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Speaker 11: you know, we'll get a free agent whatever. Just know this,

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Speaker 11: of all the free agents that are out there, the

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Speaker 11: guys that are established that have played that are not

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Speaker 11: on a team, the one that is the most productive

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Speaker 11: and the youngest is Zeke, So that just goes to

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Speaker 11: sh He's the youngest of all of them and he's

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Speaker 11: got definitely.

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Speaker 2: So as much as I don't think he's coming back,

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Speaker 2: I could sell scenario that makes sense for them.

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Speaker 8: What I'm saying is is that if that's not going

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Speaker 8: to happen.

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Speaker 3: The employer strikes No, I'm just saying, I don't know.

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Speaker 11: Let's just see if there's something else that happens with

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Speaker 11: another team.

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Speaker 8: I think.

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Speaker 11: I just don't think if they're gonna make a splash,

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Speaker 11: they'll make it running back more than they'd make it received.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate you guys joining us. It's been a

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Speaker 2: great offseason. We've had a lot of fun. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: take a little break. We'll be back as soon as

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Speaker 2: we get into training camp. We'll be on the air.

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Speaker 2: We'll be doing shows live from California. Can't wait. Be

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Speaker 2: a fun season until then. For Nick keep mcbrian brought

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Speaker 2: us Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break

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