Speaker 1: Hi, hey, Lyle, Am I coming in good?
Speaker 2: Are you coming in good? That's a loaded question. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you see you seem friendly, you seem like uh, you know,
Speaker 2: you seem you seem cool. Yeah, I think you're coming
Speaker 2: in good.
Speaker 1: No, sorry, I meant dight sound good?
Speaker 2: Okay, No, I know that's what you meant. What is
Speaker 2: your name?
Speaker 1: My name is Fenn. But you can just call me Fen.
Speaker 2: What do you prefer to.
Speaker 1: Be called Le or ghek?
Speaker 2: Whatever is in your spirit. You can call me Lyle,
Speaker 2: you can call me Ghek. It makes no difference to
Speaker 2: feel comfortable too. You know, if you don't need to
Speaker 2: make me feel comfortable, you owe me nothing. Fenn fan
Speaker 2: fan fan fann Uh? What's up? How can I get
Speaker 2: you today? What did you want to talk about?
Speaker 1: So I've come to the realization, but I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know if I feel emotions correctly, Like I have
Speaker 1: to analyze the situation afterwards or during a conversation to
Speaker 1: know if it's the right thing to feel. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can kind of give you an.
Speaker 2: Example if you want, Okay, sure.
Speaker 1: Literally two days ago at work, I was I was
Speaker 1: pitching something at work retail, and somebody was apparently. I
Speaker 1: think he was trying to get empathy because he was
Speaker 1: talking about how he went through a divorce and all
Speaker 1: I said was rip, and then I continued the conversation
Speaker 1: and pitching my stuff. Afterwards, I was like, oh crap,
Speaker 1: I think he was you know, I was supposed to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like say something to make him feel that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I just was like, whatever, okay, and and what is
Speaker 2: it that you feel like? That's an example of.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I feel things correctly. I've
Speaker 1: even like there's been deaths in the family where I'm
Speaker 1: just like neutral. I just maybe I'm I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm supposed to feel bad about it or if
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to comfort other people. I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: So what do you feel like you should have said
Speaker 2: instead of rip.
Speaker 1: I'm maybe I'm sorry, or maybe stop what I've might pitch,
Speaker 1: like instead of continuing to pitch what I was supposed to,
Speaker 1: you know, the song and dance, maybe just be like
Speaker 1: oh that now, I don't know, try and empathize with
Speaker 1: the person. I I don't know, something to that nature,
Speaker 1: I would assume.
Speaker 2: How do you think he responded emotionally to you saying.
Speaker 1: Rip, He just uh, he didn't really say anything. He
Speaker 1: just kind of looked down and we finished a transaction.
Speaker 4: And he left.
Speaker 1: So that's why I was like, ah, crap, maybe I
Speaker 1: was supposed to say something different.
Speaker 2: Do you think it made him feel bad?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe I guess.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe what would you want? I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: would you want someone to say to you in a
Speaker 2: situation like that.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't care. I wouldn't. I would say something. And
Speaker 1: then if they elicit a response that, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: their heart desire, I don't. I'm not their fucking parents, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell them how to feel about my situation.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't expect anything from that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you felt justified in saying rip because if
Speaker 2: you don't at the end and somebody said that to you,
Speaker 2: you kind of wouldn't care.
Speaker 1: Well, well, no, I assume that I'm supposed to elicit empathy,
Speaker 1: but I I didn't think about that until afterwards.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you feel like you have some kind of
Speaker 2: responsibility to comfort this guy?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Actually that is just that was just you know, one
Speaker 1: example of many of how I'm I think I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to say something else, but I do another, and I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like I do that pretty often
Speaker 1: and I think about it afterwards, and I'm like, oh crap,
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm supposed to I'm supposed to be angry with
Speaker 1: that person, or I was supposed to be happy with
Speaker 1: them and I was just neutral, or I said something
Speaker 1: that I probably wasn't supposed to say at that time.
Speaker 2: Give me another example.
Speaker 1: Okay, so a person that I work with, he uh,
Speaker 1: he had a something that like traumatized him, but I
Speaker 1: it didn't bother me at all. He uh, and it's
Speaker 1: very weird for me to even understand his situation. But uh,
Speaker 1: a girl that he dated like eight years ago is
Speaker 1: that he was like still fond of uh started dating
Speaker 1: someone else and that made him like so sad he
Speaker 1: had to like go to therapy and figure his life out.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, Okay, that's weird. I don't know, right.
Speaker 1: I was just like, sure, Okay, I didn't uh comfort
Speaker 1: him or I wasn't like angry about it. I just
Speaker 1: didn't understand. I was like, that's weird. And then I
Speaker 1: just kind of moved on and was like, all right,
Speaker 1: as long as you, you know, show show up to
Speaker 1: work or whatever, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Why do you feel like you have a problem with
Speaker 2: the way that you've been responding to these situations.
Speaker 1: Because it's never what I assume people are supposed to
Speaker 1: Like I assume like as a human we're supposed to
Speaker 1: like be apathetic or empathetic or anger or happiness or
Speaker 1: not just neutral all the time?
Speaker 2: Does anything make you feel emotional?
Speaker 1: So, like, I don't know through the call screening, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw that, but uh, I'm assembly Ferry.
Speaker 1: So I go to like these cons and when I
Speaker 1: like do tons of like drugs and shit like yeah,
Speaker 1: then I'm like like super all about it. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just like the drugs making me
Speaker 1: super happy or if it's something that's actually me.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So what if you just did drugs all
Speaker 2: the time?
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a very good idea because you
Speaker 1: still have to live your life now at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. It still has to be me doing things.
Speaker 1: The drugs are just you know, something to make you
Speaker 1: feel a little good at a certain period of time.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you say you're a femboy furry Hey yeah, okay?
Speaker 2: Does that make you feel emotional?
Speaker 1: So it makes you feel like I can be a
Speaker 1: different person when I change, when I wear something else,
Speaker 1: I don't have to play the facade of being who
Speaker 1: I am when I'm normally around people. It's almost like
Speaker 1: completely being a different person. It doesn't change me emotionally,
Speaker 1: but it makes me feel different, like as presentation wise,
Speaker 1: I can be something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Does your desire to be something else stem from
Speaker 2: a disa, from a dissatisfaction of who you already are?
Speaker 1: M M. I wouldn't say so. Maybe just because I
Speaker 1: I do like to Uh, I like run a lot,
Speaker 1: but it's mainly because of that dopamine rush. I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if maybe I'm just not satisfied with my body and that.
Speaker 2: Could be it.
Speaker 1: And maybe when I wear a different outfit it makes
Speaker 1: me feel like better. I guess that that could be
Speaker 1: a feeling. I don't know. Maybe just having a different
Speaker 1: sona just excites me that you can play a part.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, you know how people play roles in
Speaker 1: D and D and they're a different person, or when
Speaker 1: you play an RPG and you play as a different
Speaker 1: person and and and you living a different life.
Speaker 2: When you are cosplaying as this famboy fur a, do
Speaker 2: you feel more emotional?
Speaker 1: I feel more open, just because it's harder to recognize me.
Speaker 1: I feel like that probably happens with a lot of
Speaker 1: people that assume a mask. When they wear a mask,
Speaker 1: you know, it changes literally your persona because you're wearing
Speaker 1: a mask.
Speaker 2: I'm familiar with that.
Speaker 1: Yah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some refer it to me. Some have referred to
Speaker 2: me as a scally.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I feel like that's something that
Speaker 1: like you identify as, and if you don't identify as that,
Speaker 1: then that's probably wrong of them to say that's something
Speaker 1: you personally would have to be okay with?
Speaker 2: Good good, I'm glad to hear that. Okay, So when
Speaker 2: you're on dry and you're feeling all your feelings, yeah,
Speaker 2: does that feel good? Oh?
Speaker 1: It feels amazing. Sometimes I go a little too far,
Speaker 1: but like mm hmm. Sometimes I'll do like acid or molly,
Speaker 1: and those are of course, they make you give you
Speaker 1: a really good feelings. It's all just the warm and
Speaker 1: fuzzies while you're walking around. But uh yeah, it definitely
Speaker 1: makes you looser and happier, more open to talking to people.
Speaker 2: Okay, and you like the way that feels when you
Speaker 2: feel open to talking to people.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: There's a I don't know, and maybe a block. It
Speaker 1: gets rid of that barrier that I normally feel, which
Speaker 1: I guess is a feeling.
Speaker 2: So would it be a productive goal for you? And
Speaker 2: you know, listen, answer this question honestly because there's no
Speaker 2: required You don't. You don't have to fucking do anything. Okay,
Speaker 2: you don't have to become empathetic, you don't. You don't
Speaker 2: have to do anything, all right, you can eat food
Speaker 2: and die. You don't have to do anything shit. So
Speaker 2: I answer this question honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you desire to learn how to break that barrier
Speaker 2: without the use of drugs?
Speaker 1: So I like being distant because it makes you, It
Speaker 1: makes you feel safer. I guess for a lot of
Speaker 1: people it just it gives you some space between other people.
Speaker 1: But I think breaking the barrier would be healthier. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna play around like it's a good thing that
Speaker 1: I don't feel the same things that I should feel
Speaker 1: in a situation. I think, just for my sake moving forward,
Speaker 1: it would make me a better. Uh, whatever I am
Speaker 1: when I'm talking to people or just in different situations.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm gonna tell you one thing, and
Speaker 2: this is maybe I don't know. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: sure how sure I am of this, but let's play
Speaker 2: around with it as an idea. Okay, all right. I
Speaker 2: think for you to break this barrier, I think you
Speaker 2: would benefit from getting over the idea that you should
Speaker 2: be a certain way in any situation. Because if you're
Speaker 2: talking to some fucking guy about his fucking divorce and
Speaker 2: you don't care, but you feel like you should care,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to get you very far right.
Speaker 2: Like this, this abstract notion from an abstract place that
Speaker 2: you should feel or do something is really worthless, I think, because,
Speaker 2: like I said, you don't have to do anything. There's
Speaker 2: nothing you should do. Like even the question of should
Speaker 2: you be a good person, it's like do you have to?
Speaker 2: I don't know. You were born eat food and you
Speaker 2: don't have to. You don't have to do anything. You
Speaker 2: really don't. So for you to break this barrier, I
Speaker 2: think at least this is give me a second. I
Speaker 2: want to hear your thoughts, but I think, yeah, to
Speaker 2: break this barrier, You're gonna have to want to be
Speaker 2: more you know, empathetic, because you're not gonna just do
Speaker 2: some shit because you feel this abstract societal notion that
Speaker 2: you should. You have to want to and like really
Speaker 2: look inside of yourself and see if you want to.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to, but I don't
Speaker 2: think you're going to go very far and breaking this
Speaker 2: barrier unless if you actually want to be different in
Speaker 2: the way that you're reacting with people and with the world. Right,
Speaker 2: that's just something weird pitball into my mind right now.
Speaker 2: What were you going to say?
Speaker 1: Oh? No, I was just just going to agree with you, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think greatness can come from different things, and people
Speaker 1: just assume that greatness is just doing good. You can
Speaker 1: be great doing a bunch of different things as long
Speaker 1: as you just live your life, living life.
Speaker 2: Who brought up who brought up anything about being great?
Speaker 1: No, you were saying, like, do whatever you want and sorry,
Speaker 1: that was my word.
Speaker 2: I was saying.
Speaker 1: Greenness is just whatever you want to do. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: were just saying, just do what you want to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't owe anything to anybody.
Speaker 2: No, you don't. But but you can if you want,
Speaker 2: if you want to go out and be more empathetic,
Speaker 2: then then you should do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's the goal that read.
Speaker 2: Do you go to the conventions? Do you go to
Speaker 2: the furrycons? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been doing it for a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Now what animal are you?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: I have different sonas when I do sendboys stuff, I
Speaker 1: don't really do my sona but mine is a wife
Speaker 1: or wolf, So it's a it's a mixture of a.
Speaker 1: She's a dragon and she's a wolf. So she's got
Speaker 1: like dragon wings and a wolf body.
Speaker 2: That sounds intimidating but also kind of not.
Speaker 1: She's very uh more essential. She's a uh not soon Dario.
Speaker 1: What's the other one?
Speaker 2: Shoot?
Speaker 1: I don't I forgot.
Speaker 2: It's called but tell me about is real quick? What's
Speaker 2: all right you? What's your name? Ben Wren? Yeah? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: What's the difference between you and this character that you're
Speaker 2: playing when you put this dragon wolf suit? Oh?
Speaker 1: Val? So VAL's more after figured out the word yan dinner.
Speaker 1: She's she's more uh sensual, She's a she likes to
Speaker 1: be seen. She's someone that's more up front. She's a
Speaker 1: I don't explain. She's she's like the opposite of anything
Speaker 1: that like someone would want to coil back from. She's
Speaker 1: very happy and uh likes to uh hang out with
Speaker 1: people and do fun things, and uh she's kind of
Speaker 1: like a I guess, the opposite of someone like me.
Speaker 1: I guess that's why I created her like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, how many different personas do you have?
Speaker 1: I have vel and then most of the time I
Speaker 1: do friendboy stuff, So findboy stuff's a lot easier. Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't have to dress up or anything, well mainly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like skirts and different nous.
Speaker 2: Well, let me can I just I have I have
Speaker 2: one sort of final kind of point on this that
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about before we go,
Speaker 2: which is, Okay, you've you've created this persona, which is
Speaker 2: a dragon wolf character that you say possesses a lot
Speaker 2: of qualities that you, as FEN do not that I
Speaker 2: assume when you were creating this character you created those
Speaker 2: qualities intentionally because they were quality. Is that you wanted
Speaker 2: to embody but did not feel like you canm body
Speaker 2: as yourself, So you created a new persona to be
Speaker 2: able to embody these qualities. Is that accurate?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so so, and I assume that with these
Speaker 2: other personas that you have, that you've done a similar thing.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this why exactly? Okay, I
Speaker 2: think I'm kind of thinking about this here. The fact
Speaker 2: that you created a new a character with certain traits
Speaker 2: signals to me that you desire to have these traits
Speaker 2: in your life, which goes back to again the want
Speaker 2: to break that barrier that we talked about was probably
Speaker 2: necessary in order to break it. So to me, the
Speaker 2: fact that you created this character means that that want
Speaker 2: is there, that you're not following a should. You actually
Speaker 2: genuinely do want to have the qualities that you put
Speaker 2: into this dragon wolf character. So the want is there,
Speaker 2: and so now tell me why. Like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: cool that you're having fun and you're doing what you
Speaker 2: want to be doing. But why if you know that
Speaker 2: you want these characteristics, if you find yourself being able
Speaker 2: to embody these characteristics when you put on this wolf
Speaker 2: dragon costume, why can't you take these characteristics in this
Speaker 2: character and try to incorporate them in your actual life
Speaker 2: as fen.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the right word, but maybe
Speaker 1: it's the cognitive dissonance, Like I guess it's like a
Speaker 1: switch that gets turned off and on when you're switching
Speaker 1: between these people creatures, depending what you're doing. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just something that's I feel it. It's harder to
Speaker 1: associate into who you are when you've been the same
Speaker 1: thing for so long. I guess as to like creating
Speaker 1: something new that is already born with these features.
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess I'm trying to get down to the
Speaker 2: bottom of again. I mean that makes sense. Okay, you're
Speaker 2: you're you're like thinking of yourself as well. I'm already
Speaker 2: this unemotional guy, and I'm already, you know, uh, set
Speaker 2: in my stone of who I am. So let's I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna throw myself in the trash and start from
Speaker 2: a blank slate creating this these this new character with
Speaker 2: new personality traits that I think are more favorable to
Speaker 2: the ones I already have. Is that accurate at all?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, Yeah, pretty much. Buha.
Speaker 2: So I guess if we've establshed, is this something you've
Speaker 2: thought about, by the way, or is this conversation the
Speaker 2: first time you've really thought about why you're doing these things?
Speaker 1: It is the first time I actually thought about it.
Speaker 1: More so, I just I jumped it. Jumping into this
Speaker 1: the furry SIMBOI thing was more so like a couple
Speaker 1: of steps because I started off as a raver, and
Speaker 1: then I really enjoyed hanging out with furries and stuff,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh, I'm actually super into
Speaker 1: this way more so, Okay, it's just like one one
Speaker 1: from one thing to another.
Speaker 2: Okay, I I'm not going to tell you what to
Speaker 2: do or how to live your life. But I guess, well, advice, advice, Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, because I guess I don't see a good
Speaker 2: clear reason as to why you've decided in your mind that, again,
Speaker 2: if you're just having fun, you know, please go have
Speaker 2: fun and do whatever you want to do, you know,
Speaker 2: with your life and with dressing up and going to
Speaker 2: these conventions and all that. But I guess what I
Speaker 2: don't see is why you have decided for yourself that
Speaker 2: you can't add or change, add on to or change
Speaker 2: your personality to have the sort of traits that you
Speaker 2: desire in yourself, and why you feel the need to
Speaker 2: create a new persona for it. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that comes from a place of fear. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that comes from a place of you know, it's
Speaker 2: more that's more difficult than creating a new character. But
Speaker 2: I feel like those could be helpful things to maybe
Speaker 2: think about. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I just think it's a more easier said than done.
Speaker 1: Of course, maybe I just took the simpler route.
Speaker 2: I guess sure. And uh fucking look, bro, nothing wrong
Speaker 2: like I like I've been saying, nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do shit if you want to.
Speaker 2: If your way of you it's I'm dead serious. If
Speaker 2: your way of becoming a better person is to dress
Speaker 2: up as a dragon wolf, and that fucking works for you,
Speaker 2: and by god, roam the streets proudly as a dragon wolf.
Speaker 2: But you know, these are all things to think about.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about this conversation, Fenn? Is there
Speaker 2: any other aspect of this or anything at all that
Speaker 2: you feel like would be productive to to end on
Speaker 2: a final thoughts about anything we've talked about, or anything
Speaker 2: at all in the entire universe.
Speaker 1: I think it's just important more so to just talk,
Speaker 1: have talk to somebody about it and have them listen.
Speaker 1: I just I don't really have that, and I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of people don't either, So I guess
Speaker 1: I'll say I appreciate that from you, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: other people too as well. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people have these thoughts things they are free to tell
Speaker 1: other people, and maybe it's easier to tell some stranger
Speaker 1: on the internet than talk to their friends or family.
Speaker 2: Do you have sex in the dragon wolf costume?
Speaker 1: Only when I send boy? Because them boy, I like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's already there. All I have to do
Speaker 1: is pull up the skirt, uh or take off the panties.
Speaker 1: That's a lot easier, depends I guess where I'm going to,
Speaker 1: because you know, not everybody wants that.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you found something that works for you in
Speaker 2: your life. Fenn, is there anything else you want to say?
Speaker 2: Other the people the computer?
Speaker 5: Before I go?
Speaker 1: Do good degree?
Speaker 2: I guess beautiful, take care of Finn.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, here's the thing that I that I think
Speaker 2: about is I I personally have never tried, you know,
Speaker 2: having sex and a dragon costume or I'm a pretty
Speaker 2: I'm a pretty vanilla guy, and I don't have a
Speaker 2: strong desire to expand beyond that, but I gotta I
Speaker 2: have to imagine that if I were into dressing up
Speaker 2: like a dragon and getting fucked like that, it would
Speaker 2: be awesome. I have to imagine that, like I be
Speaker 2: only being into vanilla stuff. I'm like limited, And I'm
Speaker 2: jealous of the people that are dressing up like dragons
Speaker 2: and fucking like that because they're probably having a way
Speaker 2: better sexual experience than I am because I can't get
Speaker 2: into it, and I'm jealous of that. But also, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have never dressed up in a
Speaker 2: dragon costume and been fucked like that, so I could
Speaker 2: like it, but I'm not brave enough to try, and
Speaker 2: maybe that's what's wrong with me. Hello, Hello, Hi there
Speaker 2: since the get go? Yes, who is this?
Speaker 3: I'll just Alloyd.
Speaker 2: Lauren from Canada? Hi, what's going on? Lauren from Canada?
Speaker 3: Well, I just wanted to talk about being a cam
Speaker 3: girls and and only fans creators.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It says here that you've been doing camgirls stuff while
Speaker 2: going to school. You want to continue doing camming, but
Speaker 2: it says here that you will have to tell your parents.
Speaker 3: I will, and it's I mean, my mom is very
Speaker 3: sex positive. She also does like she's a dominatrix. I
Speaker 3: just I feel like if I tell her, I do
Speaker 3: like I do camming and stuff. She might feel like
Speaker 3: I like she influenced me to do it, and I
Speaker 3: don't want her to feel like that. And I'm also
Speaker 3: I'm in school for fashions, so like I still want
Speaker 3: to do that, but I, I mean, I love camming.
Speaker 3: I can't lie.
Speaker 2: Very interesting, you know. It's I've I think we've talked
Speaker 2: to people on here who do only fans and can
Speaker 2: am stuff before, and I think we've talked to them
Speaker 2: about this, this whole issue of whether or not to
Speaker 2: talk to, you know, the people in their life about it.
Speaker 2: But never have I talked to somebody with this particular
Speaker 2: situation where your mother is also a sex worker. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it.
Speaker 3: It was really hard when I was growing up because
Speaker 3: she I don't know, I feel like she talked about
Speaker 3: it with me a little too young. So at first
Speaker 3: that was kind of resentful. I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: like I can't believe my mom does this. But now
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 2: Interesting. So I want to ask you a question here.
Speaker 2: And so you're afraid to tell your mom because you're
Speaker 2: afraid that she might think that she influenced you and
Speaker 2: that that might make her feel bad and you don't
Speaker 2: want to make her feel bad.
Speaker 3: I don't know, and it's this is hard because she
Speaker 3: I mean, she has to hide it from my grandparents
Speaker 3: because they're like ultra religious. Like I want to tell
Speaker 3: her because I'm doing I'm doing really good, like I'm
Speaker 3: it's become like a full time career for me, Like
Speaker 3: I I'm only twenty and I'm I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm very proud. I'm very proud of myself,
Speaker 3: and I really like being a cam girl. It's super fun,
Speaker 3: It's like very freeing. But I just I don't know,
Speaker 3: like I have this like weird guilt about doing it.
Speaker 2: What is the guilt about?
Speaker 3: I just I don't want my mom to feel like she.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let me ask. Can I ask you a question? I'm
Speaker 2: just curious and listen. You don't have to answer anything
Speaker 2: you don't want to. But I am kind of curious.
Speaker 2: Did your mom influenced you at all to do this?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I need to go and see like
Speaker 3: an actual therapist to be honest.
Speaker 2: Okay, But I.
Speaker 3: Mean she always talked about it very openly, and I
Speaker 3: mean when I first thought of the idea, I mean
Speaker 3: what I do is completely different from what she does.
Speaker 3: And when I first got into it, I was kind
Speaker 3: of just more curious sexually because I was kind of
Speaker 3: exploring my like exhibitionalist kink and I was looking at
Speaker 3: It was during COVID when like omnikrome was a big thing.
Speaker 3: So I used to be a server and I wasn't
Speaker 3: really making much money. So I was like, Okay, well
Speaker 3: I'm into being kind of shown off, Like I like,
Speaker 3: I really like attention. I like people watching me, and
Speaker 3: I also kind of needed the money. So I started
Speaker 3: doing it. And it's at the first time I streamed,
Speaker 3: I got over a thousand years I I've been doing
Speaker 3: it for about a year. I have like sixty thousand subscribers,
Speaker 3: which is pretty good.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so I guess I'm still confused about where
Speaker 2: the guilt is coming from.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess I shouldn't feel guilty.
Speaker 2: Well listen, I mean, I I think it's because I'm
Speaker 2: no go ahead, please. I think it's just.
Speaker 3: Because I'm in school and my parents are always talking like, oh,
Speaker 3: like you're in fashion, Like we're so proud of you
Speaker 3: for like doing fashion. And also my grandpa like helped
Speaker 3: me pay for a lot of my school, and he's
Speaker 3: like ultra religious, like, so I get maybe I feel
Speaker 3: more guilty about that because I mean, I still want
Speaker 3: to do some fashion stuff. I feel like it'd be
Speaker 3: really cool to like make a to laingerie brand or something.
Speaker 3: I could use my degree for that. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just I the thing is just like I don't
Speaker 3: know if I want to tell them right after I'm
Speaker 3: done school because I don't know. I'm scared to tell them.
Speaker 3: But I'm done school. I only have one semester left.
Speaker 3: I'm done in April, so I need to either tell
Speaker 3: them and just do full time cam or like get
Speaker 3: a job, or like lie to some about.
Speaker 1: Getting Like I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I'm just scared to tell them. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I have I mean, I have a couple
Speaker 2: of thoughts. Okay, why do you say that you have
Speaker 2: to tell them?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What is what in your mind is making you feel
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 3: Well, my dad was gonna help me get a job
Speaker 3: after school because he does something that could get me
Speaker 3: into I don't want to I don't want to say
Speaker 3: the specific job, but I could he could help me
Speaker 3: get into a specific thing with fashion, but I I
Speaker 3: don't know. I just I want to keep camming doing
Speaker 3: my only fans full time. They're just very involved in
Speaker 3: like me being in school and me getting a job.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. But I'm also lying to them
Speaker 3: right now about having a job that I don't have.
Speaker 2: So okay, well, okay, So here here's some thoughts that
Speaker 2: are coming to mind. Is I think, well, you know,
Speaker 2: you should feel empowered to live your own life and
Speaker 2: do whatever it is that you want to do. And well,
Speaker 2: I think that, like, I don't know, I understand why
Speaker 2: you're afraid of what your parents think of you. But it's,
Speaker 2: like I guess, to me, not a compelling thing. It's
Speaker 2: I think ideally, your relationship with your parents is like
Speaker 2: I love you guys, and I I do A relationship
Speaker 2: with the parents is like I love you guys, but
Speaker 2: I don't care what you think about you know, how
Speaker 2: I choose to live my life and I'm not going to, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, make any decisions in the short life that
Speaker 2: I have on this planet based off of what you
Speaker 2: guys think of me, and for that matter, what anyone
Speaker 2: thinks of me.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That's I think I think that's ideally how it would
Speaker 2: go down.
Speaker 3: Hi, I say that to myself, But then I just
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's also scary. But I have a
Speaker 3: boyfriend and he cancel me sometimes too, and I could
Speaker 3: never tell his parents because his I feel like if
Speaker 3: I if his mom found out, like she would stop
Speaker 3: talking to me completely.
Speaker 2: So like I'm also, well, listen, here's the thing is
Speaker 2: like obviously, no, God, please go ahead.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you go ahead.
Speaker 2: No, No, I want to hear what you're gonna say.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say like I do say to
Speaker 3: myself a lot of the times, like I don't really
Speaker 3: care what people think of me, and like my parents
Speaker 3: just told me, like they're like, oh, Lauren, like we
Speaker 3: just we want you to do whatever makes you happy.
Speaker 3: We absolutely don't care, Like you can do whatever you
Speaker 3: want as long as like you can pay the bills
Speaker 3: and you're happy. We don't care. But then I, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I get so anxious about it, like I
Speaker 3: need to just rip the band aid off. But but
Speaker 3: I'm also really proud of myself and the work I've done,
Speaker 3: because it's a.
Speaker 2: Lot of work, good good. I think the other aspect
Speaker 2: of this was like you know, and it was like
Speaker 2: the attention that you're getting, Like, I guess I'm hoping
Speaker 2: because all of this is all about like it's because Okay,
Speaker 2: it's very funny. I feel like you're balanced. Like the
Speaker 2: two main things I had with this was like you're
Speaker 2: talking about how you like the attention that you're getting,
Speaker 2: and then you talking about, you know, a possibility of
Speaker 2: negative attention from your parents. And I thought they were
Speaker 2: two separate things, but I'm realizing that they're both linked
Speaker 2: together in a way because it's like my question to
Speaker 2: you is are you is how heavily you're being influenced
Speaker 2: in your life and your happiness and your decisions by
Speaker 2: other people's opinions of you, be they positive or negative,
Speaker 2: Like I think it's a tough thing. I guess starting
Speaker 2: with the positive, it's a tough thing. If you're building
Speaker 2: a thing where it's making you happy and you're proud
Speaker 2: of it because of other people's positive validation of you,
Speaker 2: I'm really glad to hear that you're proud of what
Speaker 2: you do. And you know, you said to me just
Speaker 2: now something that I thought was a positive thing where
Speaker 2: you were like, I'm proud of it. Because it was
Speaker 2: a lot of work, and I did the work. And
Speaker 2: I think that's a really positive type of pride that
Speaker 2: you're taking. And so I'm glad to hear that. I
Speaker 2: think more I think that's more positive than if you
Speaker 2: would say something like, oh, I really like I don't
Speaker 2: know the validation that it gives me or something like that,
Speaker 2: because that can be a dangerous sort of a thing.
Speaker 2: And then onto the negative side, like this fear of
Speaker 2: of uh, negative attention from your parents, from your boyfriend's
Speaker 2: parents is like again, I understand the fear of it.
Speaker 2: But and you know, and you look, you don't have
Speaker 2: you don't have to tell anyone if you're uncomfortable. You know,
Speaker 2: this is your life. You can you can do whatever
Speaker 2: you want. And then includes you know, how how close
Speaker 2: to your your chest you want to, you know, keep
Speaker 2: this thing that you're doing. But I guess I would
Speaker 2: just hope that you, as you maneuver your life, feel
Speaker 2: empowered to do so, you know, regardless of other people's
Speaker 2: opinions of you, be they positive or negative. If that
Speaker 2: makes sense, that does make sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think I'm negotiating in my head if
Speaker 3: I want to. I'm definitely not going to tell my
Speaker 3: boyfriend's mom that I can't do that, so I need to.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to navigate how I'm going to.
Speaker 5: Go about that.
Speaker 3: Because I don't know. But I'm also just.
Speaker 5: Sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to. I don't know if I oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I can't think.
Speaker 2: No, no worries time.
Speaker 3: M Yeah. No, I'm definitely not going to tell my
Speaker 3: boyfriend's mom. I guess I'm just trying to. I don't
Speaker 3: like lying to people. Okay, I don't know. I I
Speaker 3: think I would leave it up to him if he
Speaker 3: wanted to tell her, because he also camps with me.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I mentioned that. Mm hmm. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm debating if I want to tell my
Speaker 3: parents or not, because I don't know if you'll have
Speaker 3: a positive reaction or negative reaction. I feel like my
Speaker 3: mom will either be like, oh, I may like you're
Speaker 3: doing what you want and you're doing good at it.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if she'll either be happy or
Speaker 3: she'll put it, if she'll if she'll be upset with
Speaker 3: herself and feel like I'm doing it because she influenceiated
Speaker 3: it is that.
Speaker 2: Yes, it does and you know, look, here's the main
Speaker 2: thing I want to say is obviously it's up to you,
Speaker 2: and you know, on this call, I'm not like like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell you what to do, but
Speaker 2: I guess, I I guess to me, the ideal situation
Speaker 2: is a world where you're so proud of what you
Speaker 2: do and you like doing it so much, and you're
Speaker 2: really like, you're so convicted in that sense that you're
Speaker 2: not afraid of a potential negative reaction from your parents
Speaker 2: or from anyone else because of that conviction where you're like,
Speaker 2: listen my mom, where you're just like, listen, mom, I
Speaker 2: do you know camming? I do this and I love it.
Speaker 2: It's great. I love the freedom, I love expressing myself.
Speaker 2: I feel proud of profile that I've built. And you know,
Speaker 2: you can feel however you want to feel about it.
Speaker 2: But you know, my my pride and myself and my
Speaker 2: happiness in doing what I'm doing will remain the same
Speaker 2: regardless of how you feel. And I don't know, again,
Speaker 2: I'm not you know, you should do whatever you're comfortable with,
Speaker 2: but I hope that you have the I guess the
Speaker 2: courage too, like really feel convicted in those those things
Speaker 2: enough to not care what other people's opinions are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am trying my best to not care what
Speaker 3: other people think of me, especially now being like online,
Speaker 3: I can't really let people this opinions like affect me
Speaker 3: or I would completely be.
Speaker 2: Enough, right, I mean that's part. I mean, that's part
Speaker 2: of the thing of of you know, whether whether it's
Speaker 2: camming or making fucking YouTube videos about legos, like whatever
Speaker 2: you do on the internet, there will be people who
Speaker 2: you know, attack you and shut on you and uh
Speaker 2: say all these things. And I mean it's an inevitability
Speaker 2: of putting yourself. It's inevitability of putting yourself out there
Speaker 2: in any situation really, and like becoming okay with that,
Speaker 2: becoming okay with that is is really a path to
Speaker 2: I don't know, like some some true form of freedom.
Speaker 2: And it's hard and I'm not there at all. But
Speaker 2: when I think of like a true, true, true freedom,
Speaker 2: you know, it looks something like that.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, maybe I will tell her. I think I
Speaker 3: want to tell her.
Speaker 5: I'm just.
Speaker 2: I mean, no, it's hard, it's a difficult. It's a
Speaker 2: difficult thing. I understand the the the fear involved. But
Speaker 2: but I mean all that said, I'm glad to hear
Speaker 2: that you found something that that you really like doing,
Speaker 2: and it sounds like you're doing it for positive reasons.
Speaker 2: I thank you.
Speaker 3: I it's I sound it's really amazing. I think camming's
Speaker 3: awesome because you know, I mean, if we can get
Speaker 3: into like ethical and unethical porn. I think camming is
Speaker 3: amazing because you actually know, like where your money's going
Speaker 3: and like tip typically and you know the person like I.
Speaker 3: I like the idea of woman being in control of porn,
Speaker 3: if that makes sense, because.
Speaker 2: I saw.
Speaker 3: The amount of there's I don't know, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of dark sides of porn. So I think it's really amazing. Personally,
Speaker 3: I'm also right, I try my hardest to be as
Speaker 3: realistic as possible. I feel like corn is very unrealistic.
Speaker 3: Like so I I try to be as realistic as possible,
Speaker 3: and I always it's fun. I give like sex advice
Speaker 3: on my stream and stuff. I don't know, I sound.
Speaker 2: Weird to some people, but no, I don't think it
Speaker 2: sounds where like I was going to say, one of
Speaker 2: the first things I brought up and worked, we're on
Speaker 2: the point of like other people's opinions, be they positive
Speaker 2: or negative. One of the first things I brought up
Speaker 2: was like, when you talked about liking doing this is again,
Speaker 2: if you had, you know, said I like doing this
Speaker 2: because it gives me validation, I would have been like,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, that's a that's a tough road
Speaker 2: to go down because it's a it's a flimsy base
Speaker 2: to be doing something for. But I mean the things
Speaker 2: that you're talking about, you like expressing yourself. You you
Speaker 2: feel as though you are presenting a more realistic idea
Speaker 2: of sex, and you feel as though that's been a
Speaker 2: positive thing to present.
Speaker 3: I mean, I do like the attention, but it's more
Speaker 3: it's kind of a kink of mine, like kimming is
Speaker 3: like a it's an actual kink that I have, Like
Speaker 3: it's I don't know it it turns me on when
Speaker 3: there's like thousands of people watching me. Like how I
Speaker 3: don't have sex or masturbate.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I mean it's awesome. I
Speaker 3: get paid to have work out of.
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that either, you know. I like talking
Speaker 2: to people and having conversations, and I think that there's
Speaker 2: something good about trying to you know, listen to people
Speaker 2: and stuff, but I also like when somebody cool follows
Speaker 2: me on Instagram, so you know, I like attention too.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I think you're doing great.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I wish you many more years of happiness and enjoyment
Speaker 2: and freedom to live however you want to live than
Speaker 2: you you want to say to the people of the
Speaker 2: computer before we go, my boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Really wants to say hi. He's a big fan. Can
Speaker 3: you say hello?
Speaker 2: Sure? What's his name?
Speaker 1: Jackson?
Speaker 3: And he streams with me too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hello, while I put Lauren on your stream, I
Speaker 4: just want to say hi, and I appreciate what you do.
Speaker 4: That's it, So thank you and thank you for talking
Speaker 4: to Lauren.
Speaker 5: So have a good night.
Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate what you do too. I'll have to
Speaker 2: check it out sometime.
Speaker 4: Okay, you have a good one.
Speaker 2: You too, take care.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hi, who is this?
Speaker 5: Hi? I'm Addison.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Addison?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: I called in because recently, I've I say recently, but
Speaker 5: for a long time, I've been just like the butt
Speaker 5: of a lot of people's jokes and I'm always like
Speaker 5: talked over, and it just it it's really affecting my
Speaker 5: self esteem and like it just makes me feel like
Speaker 5: I'm stupid half the time?
Speaker 2: What kinds of jokes are people people making?
Speaker 5: Like I'll just I'll be talking about something that I'm
Speaker 5: interested in, and mhm, They'll just like make fun of
Speaker 5: the things that I'm interested in, and they'll they'll literally
Speaker 5: have they'll call me like stupid half half the time
Speaker 5: most of the time. And and I don't think they
Speaker 5: like really get how much it's hurt hearing that something
Speaker 5: that you're really passionate about is dumb to them and
Speaker 5: doesn't mean anything because as a friend, you know, you
Speaker 5: would think you would support each other in your interests.
Speaker 2: Who are these people?
Speaker 5: They're just like people that I'm around mainly, like I
Speaker 5: call them friends, but and.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: That they're joking, or at least they say they are,
Speaker 5: but it doesn't it doesn't feel like they are.
Speaker 2: Okay, And is this this is like sort of you
Speaker 2: you you peg it to one sort of central group
Speaker 2: of people who you you would call your friends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay basically, And like another thing, sorry, no
Speaker 5: go ahead. But another thing is that like I'm I've
Speaker 5: always been talked over my entire life, like not recently,
Speaker 5: like ever since I was little, you know, I've always
Speaker 5: been talked over, and it just makes me feel like insignificant,
Speaker 5: Like what I say doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: So let's start with this group of friends. Tell me this. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you say that you feel like these these people,
Speaker 2: you're giving them the benefit of the doubt, that they
Speaker 2: feel like they're just joking. Tell me about these group
Speaker 2: of people that you call your friends outside of them
Speaker 2: calling your interests stupid and uh, you know, making fun
Speaker 2: of you for these things. Do you like being friends
Speaker 2: with these people? Do these people provide you any do
Speaker 2: you do you find any value at all in your
Speaker 2: relationship in any way? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Like, the issue I have with it is that we've
Speaker 5: had a lot of good time, Like there have been
Speaker 5: so many times where I've like laughed, like the hardest
Speaker 5: I've ever laughed with them, And there have been, like,
Speaker 5: there have been so many good moments, but it's all
Speaker 5: just kind of weighed down with the negative ones, if
Speaker 5: that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Because it does make those yeah.
Speaker 5: Like yeah, because whenever they're so like mean about it,
Speaker 5: it's like, well, then why do any of the good
Speaker 5: times matter? It's all you're gonna do is resort back
Speaker 5: to the same thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, And you know the reason I'm asking you this
Speaker 2: is because you know, look, if you found no value
Speaker 2: at all and hanging out with this group of people,
Speaker 2: then you could very easily just stop hanging out with them.
Speaker 2: But it becomes, I guess, a tougher issue. If these
Speaker 2: people really are your friends and you really are giving
Speaker 2: them the benefit of the doubt and feeling as though
Speaker 2: they might not even understand that they are causing you
Speaker 2: any anguish, then it becomes, you know, something to navigate
Speaker 2: as opposed to abandon. So just to kind of hammer
Speaker 2: in on that these people are your friends, you do
Speaker 2: have a good time with them, but they rid you
Speaker 2: for shit and it makes you feel bad, and uh,
Speaker 2: you you don't like that? Is that accurate? M Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I know it's a situation of like, if I
Speaker 5: can do something that changed the situation, then do it.
Speaker 5: For if I don't want to or I can't, then
Speaker 5: just leave it that but right, yeah, And because of
Speaker 5: like how it's affecting my self esteem, Like it's really
Speaker 5: scary to me to try to step up because I
Speaker 5: feel like, for some reason I'm going to be in
Speaker 5: the wrong for saying something.
Speaker 2: You feel like you're going to be in the wrong
Speaker 2: for saying something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it's just kind of like the way
Speaker 5: that I was raised, I guess, because anytime I spoke
Speaker 5: out about some that like upset me, I would always,
Speaker 5: you know, get in trouble for it, because you know,
Speaker 5: the people like my parents just didn't want to deal
Speaker 5: with that, and so they just shut it down. And
Speaker 5: that's kind of like let in to other relationships that
Speaker 5: I've had because now I'm scared to speak out about six.
Speaker 2: So that was kind of the next prong of what
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you is have you told
Speaker 2: your friends, you know, you gave them the benefit of
Speaker 2: the doubt you felt as though maybe they don't know,
Speaker 2: which is, you know, I think a good thing to
Speaker 2: do to go, okay, maybe these people don't even know
Speaker 2: that they're hurting my feelings, you know, maybe they don't
Speaker 2: fully realize the extent of what they're doing. And I
Speaker 2: think it's good to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2: But now.
Speaker 1: Have you.
Speaker 2: Expressed to them that you you feel this way?
Speaker 5: I have it, I have in the past, And for
Speaker 5: a while they started to like calm down a bit
Speaker 5: with the jokes, but then you know, after some time passed,
Speaker 5: it was just right back to where it was. Okay,
Speaker 5: And I I don't know, I don't know if they
Speaker 5: even realize.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 5: I don't think they realize that they pick it back up.
Speaker 5: I think it's just like a gradual thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, when is the last time we talked to
Speaker 2: him about this?
Speaker 5: It's it's been a little bit about I don't want
Speaker 5: to say six months, but it's like four months.
Speaker 2: Ago maybe, Okay, Yeah, Yeah, this is this is tough.
Speaker 2: I mean, look again, I think it's it's up to
Speaker 2: you and your personal evaluation as to how much value
Speaker 2: you you feel like is in maintaining these relationships. And
Speaker 2: I can't tell you that, like I can't I you know,
Speaker 2: I can't tell you whether or not it's worth having
Speaker 2: these people as friends. That's something you have to decide
Speaker 2: for yourself. Yeah, and do a little deep dive into
Speaker 2: your brain, be like how do I really how do
Speaker 2: I really feel when I, you know, am hanging out
Speaker 2: and do I come away? Yeah? Go ahead.
Speaker 5: That's like another thing that I've been working on with
Speaker 5: myself because I know that if I'm not happy with
Speaker 5: who I am and if I'm not happy with the
Speaker 5: state that I'm in right now, then I know I'm
Speaker 5: not going to be happy with anybody else, and that
Speaker 5: like it's tough, it's not.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Well listen, well listen, we'll listen, We'll listen.
Speaker 1: Let me.
Speaker 2: What you just said is an interesting thing because you
Speaker 2: said you're nineteen, yeah, okay, and these friends are they
Speaker 2: from high school?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay. So it's a tough situation to navigate. You know,
Speaker 2: go back to your friends and let them know that
Speaker 2: that you know they make you feel this way when
Speaker 2: they make fun of you. But what you just said
Speaker 2: feeling is though, if I can't be happy with these people,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be happy with anyone everywhere. That's
Speaker 2: something that I think a lot of people experience, right
Speaker 2: especially when you're young and you haven't you know, lived
Speaker 2: life and met a lot of different people and made
Speaker 2: a loving friends. Is you can make a mistake. And
Speaker 2: you can do this in romantic relationships or just plotonic
Speaker 2: friendships where you have a limited amount of experience. And
Speaker 2: so these these friends that you have like in high school,
Speaker 2: in middle school and shit, they form your initial idea
Speaker 2: of what friendship is. You know what I'm saying and
Speaker 2: so you think to yourself, this is just what And
Speaker 2: so even if you're in a situation where like you're
Speaker 2: not feeling great all the time, you think, to yourself,
Speaker 2: this is just what friendship is. It doesn't get any
Speaker 2: better than this, doesn't get any worse than this, And
Speaker 2: you convince yourself what you said, which is that if
Speaker 2: I can't be happy in this situation, I won't be
Speaker 2: happy in any situation, which is a total discrediting of
Speaker 2: the fact that there are eight billion people in the
Speaker 2: world and you know, your relationship with the four people
Speaker 2: that you went to high school with in the town
Speaker 2: that you grew up with is not going to be
Speaker 2: an accurate sample size for you to make your conclusions
Speaker 2: as to what people are like and as to what
Speaker 2: friendships are like. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 2: I guess in closing, evaluate for yourself, like, take some
Speaker 2: time to think about if these relationships you are having
Speaker 2: with your friends are serving you and if they are,
Speaker 2: and that's again the decision that you got to make
Speaker 2: for yourself. Then you know, continue to communicate your feelings
Speaker 2: so that they know because it sounds like they're recepted
Speaker 2: the first time, but then two again you're early nineteen,
Speaker 2: go out into the universe. I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: going to college or whatever is up with you, but
Speaker 2: continue to go out into the universe and try to
Speaker 2: make new friends and don't let your previous ideas of
Speaker 2: friendship uh get in the way of that. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Mmm? Yeah, what are these hobbies? Can
Speaker 2: I what is the hobby that your friends think of stupid?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just have like kind of obscure interests, like just
Speaker 5: niche things, like like I collect a bunch of random stuff,
Speaker 5: and I like a bunch of like internet series and
Speaker 5: they'll just say shit, like no one knows what you're
Speaker 5: talking about, Like just just shut up?
Speaker 2: What what? What random things do you collect?
Speaker 5: Like I collect bones and stuff.
Speaker 2: But you collect bones and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just like like skulls and stuff?
Speaker 2: Do you kill people to collect it?
Speaker 5: And I did it with him, and so I just
Speaker 5: like continued that. But but they're just like that, And
Speaker 5: I agree it's weird. I know that, But I mean
Speaker 5: I like doing it.
Speaker 2: And well, listen, listen, listen, Addison. As long as you
Speaker 2: are not killing people to collect the balls and the.
Speaker 5: Like, I find thematically all.
Speaker 2: Right, because if that's what you were doing, then I
Speaker 2: would have sided with the friends. But I believe you.
Speaker 2: Addison's anything else you want to say to the people
Speaker 2: in the computer before.
Speaker 5: We go, Thank you Wile for taking your time to
Speaker 5: talk to me, and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Hey, take care, Addison, you too, Thank you. I got
Speaker 2: scared for a second. I was like, what if her
Speaker 2: friends are just trying to convince her not to murder
Speaker 2: animals and people, and I'm trying to tell her not
Speaker 2: to listen to them, then what would that make me
Speaker 2: an enabler of No, she was cool. She was cool.
Speaker 1: Beacon goes on the line taking your phone calls every night.
Speaker 2: Every Beacon goes to the side's teaching you aloud the
Speaker 2: memory life. He's not really an expert.