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Speaker 3: Touchdown, Tyler Murray That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 4: Oh that was nasty right there?

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Speaker 3: Rights slamm the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 3: I do feel like we should start with some sort

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Speaker 3: of like profound quote from graduation. Tis the season for graduations.

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Speaker 3: I tried a couple on Ron Wolfley on the Big

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Speaker 3: Red Rage, and really I don't think wolf was in

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Speaker 3: the mood. But Darren, you're, you know, married to an educator,

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Speaker 3: are you not?

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Speaker 4: I am?

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Speaker 3: How many graduations would you say you've been to over

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Speaker 3: the years. Are you obligated as the spouse of an

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Speaker 3: educator to go to high school graduations? Because I went

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Speaker 3: to one it felt like seven, But I went to

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Speaker 3: one just last week.

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Speaker 4: Well number one, she works graduation, so why would I

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Speaker 4: be there? And unfortunately, I actually am one under the

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Speaker 4: minimum for my family because I have two children, two

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Speaker 4: high school graduates, and only one high school graduation attended

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Speaker 4: because the other one got flippin' canceled because of COVID.

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Speaker 4: So I see, I've only been to one other than

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Speaker 4: my own.

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Speaker 3: Of course, that's a win in my book. Really, you're

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Speaker 3: better off for that, I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: She does have to work at every year.

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Speaker 3: Your wife should get hazard pay for any graduation ceremony worked.

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Speaker 4: She actually doesn't mind the ceremony itself as much as

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Speaker 4: the morning her soul at seven am.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I didn't notice? By the way,

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Speaker 3: and Danny, did you know that the future belongs to

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Speaker 3: those who believe in the beauty of their dreams? Did

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Speaker 3: you know that or that graduation is not the end?

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Speaker 3: Did Kermit say that it is the beginning? Or as

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Speaker 3: Ralph Waldo Emerson said, smart guy, Darren, what lies behind us,

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Speaker 3: and what lies before us are small matters compared to

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Speaker 3: what lies within us. And I want you to keep

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Speaker 3: those profound words in mind as we launch here into

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Speaker 3: Aaron and Danny sirek.

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Speaker 4: Wow, what a start, Paul, not the hero, but we

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Speaker 4: need right now.

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Speaker 5: What else you got for me?

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Speaker 3: So fulfill your own purpose and potential Danny and will

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Speaker 3: leave it at that.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 3: It sort of reminds me of a I think a graduation.

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Speaker 3: I think a long speech is I think of Jeffrey

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Speaker 3: Lourie at the NFL Owners meetings with a tush push

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Speaker 3: speech that lasted nearly an hour. Maybe we'll get to

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Speaker 3: that a little bit later. Do we have to We

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Speaker 3: don't have to do anything, Paul. We're gonna get cultured

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Speaker 3: with Danny. Look forward to that winning behavior. Absolutely. There

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Speaker 3: might be a few entries for the power pole of

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Speaker 3: incompetence or consideration. Maybe just maybe this time of year,

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Speaker 3: something that happened in the Indy five hundred that I

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Speaker 3: I'd see again in my life. So we'll get to

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Speaker 3: that example of incompetence. But let's just start right off

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Speaker 3: the top. Cardinals entering Phase three.

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Speaker 4: Yes, katas have arrived, not quite as we record this,

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Speaker 4: but as it hits the airwaves soon enough the back

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Speaker 4: half of this week. It's funny the Cardinals only have

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Speaker 4: six OTAs this year. You can have up to ten.

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Speaker 4: They've almost always had ten, but it was decided by

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Speaker 3: So there were ten in twenty twenty three, there were

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Speaker 4: Yes, I believe that's yes, Yes, usually there's another week

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Speaker 4: of four of them. Okay, but those that was just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and players like Aaron Rodgers, so it doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: Wellham wouldn't have been at these anyways. This is a

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Speaker 5: Am curious who is out there and who's not because

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Speaker 5: it is voluntary and in the past the Cardinals have

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Speaker 5: had very good attendance, which all starts with your franchise

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Speaker 5: that's always the first thing you keep an eye on,

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Speaker 5: there's still only so much they can do. At OTA's

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Speaker 5: offense and defense are on the field together, but they're

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Speaker 5: not going head to head. You're not going to see

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Speaker 5: one on one matchups. So the first thing you're doing

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Speaker 3: What's the old joke, ninety percent of success in life

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Speaker 3: is just showing up. So that's a start right there.

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Speaker 2: At ten years, are just full of them in their

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Speaker 4: Availability is just as important as his ability.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's the same.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's one of them, may or may not be

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Speaker 3: an app segue into Sean Murphy bunty. Yeah, that's true

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Speaker 3: reportedly on the what is it.

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Speaker 4: It's not even Yeah, it's and it's not reportedly, I

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Speaker 4: injury list. We don't really have any other details from that.

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Speaker 4: The team still hasn't done any official announcement, although again

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Speaker 4: and I don't know how many answers we're going to

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Speaker 4: get because usually JG is pretty tight lipped about that stuff,

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Speaker 4: but obviously impacts this cornerback room, which has a lot

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Speaker 3: I guess, is there a more competitive position group on

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Speaker 5: You could argue defensive line, but cornerback is the most

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Speaker 5: competitive if you're looking for a starting role. Defensive line

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Speaker 5: is stacked with veterans. So when you're looking at cornerback,

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Speaker 5: Sean Murphy Bunting was one of your starters, and then

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Speaker 5: the year. Max Melton, former second round pick, worked his

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Speaker 5: That was already going to be a position room to

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Speaker 5: It's not a guarantee that it's just going to be

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Speaker 5: Thomas and Melton bringing Johnson into the mix. How are

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Speaker 5: they going to bring in denzil Burke the fifth round

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Speaker 5: dealing with an injury. There's a lot of question marks

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The first thing I think of with all that, Paul,

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Speaker 4: you have NFL things to point to for most of

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Speaker 4: the defensive linemen that they're competing, and there's not nearly

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Speaker 4: as much with those cornerbacks. I mean, there's going to

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Speaker 4: be healthy competition, but there's not a whole lot other

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Speaker 4: there's not a ton of, Hey, this guy has done

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Speaker 4: So it's a lot more of a question mark to me.

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Speaker 3: And even Starling Thomas, despite the fact he started nearly

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Speaker 3: two dozen games over the last two years. Two years

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Speaker 3: ago plus he was undrafted rookie free agent, So he's

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Speaker 3: far from a made man on this roster, or at

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Speaker 3: d line is really competitive, really stacked. You've broken camp

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Speaker 3: the last two years with a half dozen six defensive linemen.

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Speaker 3: There are at least eight guys right now you have

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Speaker 3: to believe are gonna stick and stay. You're not cutting

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Speaker 3: a Dante Stills or an LJ. Collier, right I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: linemen and waves in a rotation. If you're a starting

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Speaker 3: there's more at stake in a cornerback competition because the

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Speaker 5: Part, you're still looking for a number one cornerback on

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Speaker 5: this defense. The Cardinals had to use somewhat of a

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Speaker 5: rotation last year. Is that the goal? Is that what

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Speaker 5: point where you gonna have your two cornerbacks out there

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Speaker 5: and that's ideally who you have. Maybe you have one

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Speaker 5: which is something we haven't seen. I don't classify Garrett

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Speaker 5: Williams as an option to see outside. He can play.

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Speaker 5: He's shown that he can do that, and that's something

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Speaker 4: How many defensive backs does this team keep nine?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say eight, but considering how loaded they are,

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Speaker 3: The thing is, if you're keeping more defensive linemen, where

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Speaker 3: lighter at safety because you're so loaded at corner. Maybe

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Speaker 3: to Danny's point about Garrett Williams playing outside, I thought

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Speaker 3: there was much more of a possibility until this latest

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Speaker 3: Sean Murphy Bunting news because there are a lot of

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Speaker 3: people who think Sean Murphy Bunting was at his best

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Speaker 3: in his NFL career the couple of years he was

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Speaker 3: And so if you're thinking, okay, Garrett Williams two years

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Speaker 3: knee injury, no longer a factor. We think he has

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Speaker 3: potential to grow and evolve outside, then to me, your

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Speaker 3: immediate answer inside and Nickel corner was SMB. Well, that's

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Speaker 3: no longer a possibility based on what we know right

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Speaker 3: here right now. So does that leave Garrett Williams inside?

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Speaker 3: Which is fine. He really excelled. I mean his PFF

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Speaker 3: ratings and all that were off the chart. That's gotten

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Speaker 3: a lot of publicity. You had to get another underrated

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Speaker 3: all time, you know, in the league ranking. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to that in a minute. But if you were to

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Speaker 3: go ahead and handicap your top three corners right here

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Speaker 3: right now, I mean, if you're Manias four and Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Gannon and you always have that depth chart you know

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Speaker 3: They had the little names on magnets, right and they

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Speaker 3: put them around the depth chart there and they're going

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Speaker 3: You know what's amazing is Red Sea report Danny about

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Speaker 3: Right, no doubt, no doubt, Yeah, he's He definitely has

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Speaker 3: In fact, we brought this up as well in Red

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Speaker 5: Right a couple of articles, don't look my way, I'm

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Speaker 4: How many flowers do you need? Danny exactly to be able.

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Speaker 3: To sustains, just one light of the lamp will do,

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Speaker 3: Danny says, she wants to light the lamp on our

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Speaker 5: By the way, if I could reach I would do it.

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Speaker 2: On my own.

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Speaker 5: Very likely? And that's not even that's a combination of

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Speaker 5: It was one year and that's what Simon did for

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Speaker 3: You know. Wolf brought that up. Actually the Daryl Washington. Yeah, see,

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Speaker 5: Not having time to thought this through, the first in

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Speaker 3: tod the Toushbush to anybody feel the need to say

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00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 3: anything about the Toushbush that has not been said yet.

437
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 3: It's going to be around at least one more season. Darren,

438
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Speaker 3: You're inconspicuously quiet.

439
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 4: I've said what I've needed to say. I it doesn't

440
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 4: break my heart that it's still around, but I wouldn't.

441
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Speaker 4: It wouldn't have broke my heart if they would have said, no,

442
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 4: I don't. I'll go back to I'm once I started

443
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 4: realizing of that. They took out the rule about being

444
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 4: able to push and pull players period in two thousand

445
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Speaker 4: and five. I never I don't understand that. But if

446
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 4: it's if that's the if they took that out, then

447
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 4: then this should be allowed.

448
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Speaker 3: I will say. The way the Eagles are flexing the wind,

449
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 3: you know, and leaning into it and social media and

450
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:04,239
Speaker 3: you know, provoking everyone and the whole deal. Uh, they

451
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 3: are truly increasing the dislike factor, the disdain factor.

452
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Speaker 4: So we were going to do that in winning behavior?

453
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 3: Oh we were, Yeah, how much we disliked the Eagles?

454
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 4: Well, that would be a non winning move in my part.

455
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 4: I see my thought process.

456
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Speaker 3: Okay, you're right, I'm seeing it right.

457
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Speaker 5: Here and bring it down. Paul, you know, just re

458
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 5: read what are your motivational quotes?

459
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Speaker 2: Walk back in.

460
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Speaker 3: I'm sort of like Brett Favre. I didn't even look

461
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 3: at the game plan over here. Did you see that

462
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 3: Brett Favre documentary they just put on?

463
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Speaker 5: Watch it?

464
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Speaker 4: Okay? I have a quick quick sidebar in that I

465
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 4: have not seen it, but I was talking to somebody

466
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Speaker 4: I know who said she watched it and she does

467
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 4: not watch sports at all, but she watched that. She's like,

468
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Speaker 4: He's not a very good person, is he.

469
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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, yeah, you know what, Let's let's get cultured.

470
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Speaker 3: Let's toss it to Danny. Here we go, h Danny

471
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Speaker 3: will segue.

472
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Speaker 5: To you getting cultured. With Danny. It is not just

473
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Speaker 5: directed at Paul.

474
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Speaker 3: Am I the DePaul uncultured philistine around here.

475
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: Yes, you got me very excited. Now.

476
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 5: I am on social media and consume more at pop

477
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Speaker 5: culture than both of you combined.

478
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, let's go.

479
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Speaker 5: We're starting off getting cultured with a bit of an

480
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Speaker 5: editor's note. Something that was brought up in last week's episode,

481
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Speaker 5: and it's something that the three of us talked about

482
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Speaker 5: a little off air, and then in the following days

483
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Speaker 5: I actually received a message from one of our avid listeners,

484
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Speaker 5: So shout out to Malcolm, thank you for reaching out,

485
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Speaker 5: Thank you for listening every week. And Paul said something

486
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Speaker 5: last week and he was talking about how something is slap,

487
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Speaker 5: and I do want to defend myself that I did

488
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Speaker 5: not correct him in the moment on air because you

489
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Speaker 5: were you thought you were quoting Adrian Wilson from Big

490
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Speaker 5: Red Rage. However you weren't. The term you were looking

491
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Speaker 5: for is it slaps, which is honestly, the point of

492
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Speaker 5: getting cultured is getting you cultured in that. So just

493
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Speaker 5: wanted to make sure you were aware of how to

494
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Speaker 5: use that lingua. You were so close, Yeah.

495
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Speaker 3: I was. I was close.

496
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Speaker 4: I gotta say though, they was. They put the the

497
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Speaker 4: Big Red Rage clip of Adrian out there, of him

498
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Speaker 4: saying that he did say slap.

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Speaker 5: Okay, maybe we need to make sure Adriane is getting

500
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Speaker 5: cultured as well.

501
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Speaker 4: We'll let you do that, Danny May.

502
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Speaker 3: I present my defense attorney, Darren Irvan. That's my back squire.

503
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: This I did, I saw it, but I didn't get

505
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Speaker 5: a lot of attention which I thought was interesting. Have

506
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Speaker 5: the two of you heard about the Enhanced Games?

507
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm scared a list.

508
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Speaker 4: Is this a problem? If it happens for four more hours,

509
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 4: you have to go see a doctor.

510
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Speaker 5: Okay, it's an Olympic style event.

511
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Speaker 3: Darren looked Darren that looks said like the lamp on

512
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Speaker 3: my behalf.

513
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Speaker 5: This is a family show. Okay. The Enhanced Games an

514
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 5: Olympic style event that encourages peds, steroids, and growth hormones.

515
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Speaker 5: It's happening next Memorial Day weekend in Las Vegas and

516
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 5: they are hoping to infuse unprecedented levels of science, money,

517
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Speaker 5: and performance enhancing drugs.

518
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Speaker 4: Okay, this is a complete ripoff of Sorry Night Live. Yes,

519
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Speaker 4: if you go back, Paul and I know that the deal.

520
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Speaker 3: It was one of those was a Dana Carvey I

521
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Speaker 3: can't remember, and Kevin Nealon Yeah, might have been. And

522
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Speaker 3: Kevin Neil was a loudmouthednnounced. It's the All Legal Steroid

523
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Speaker 3: Games something like that.

524
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Speaker 4: Powerlifter goes to thelifter and the arms rip off.

525
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Speaker 3: Yes. I was gonna say, should we spoil the moment,

526
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Speaker 3: but Darren just did so. Yes, the guy goes to

527
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Speaker 3: deadlift like three thousand pounds and instead his arms rip off.

528
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Speaker 4: That's that's classic though, that we're gonna go have that

529
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Speaker 4: in real life, because why wouldn't we?

530
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Speaker 5: That is reality now.

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Speaker 2: And the last notice, By the way, Dane.

532
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Speaker 3: Do you have any hgh on you?

533
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Speaker 2: By the way, I'm sorry again a family show.

534
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Speaker 5: The AMA denial the American Music Awards was a pretty

535
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Speaker 5: big flop. Number one, they didn't have a lot of

536
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Speaker 5: actual artists there. This happened Monday night. And number two,

537
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Speaker 5: it was shown from people in the audience supposedly live

538
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Speaker 5: performances I say with air quotes, were actually pre taped.

539
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Speaker 5: There was a moment that two different artists were shown

540
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Speaker 5: on TVs if they were performing live, and then the

541
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Speaker 5: view from the person in the audience was showing a

542
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Speaker 5: dark stage. They had essentially filmed, pre recorded a performance

543
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Speaker 5: and had people in the audience and had the camera angles.

544
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Speaker 5: Pretty big flop.

545
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Speaker 2: Use you can't believe.

546
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Speaker 5: I can't believe live TV anymore.

547
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Speaker 4: What happened to those fine awards? Nobody cares anymore, I

548
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Speaker 4: guess not.

549
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: One of the political conventions, Kid Rock was way off

550
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Speaker 3: with the lip syncing, way.

551
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Speaker 5: Off, like actually since then, back in the day.

552
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Speaker 4: One of the political conventions where political.

553
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Speaker 5: Well you both have been culture now you're welcome, all right. Oh,

554
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Speaker 5: it slaps, Paul, it slaps.

555
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Speaker 3: What's what's real? Heinous? Truly is heinous? I think I

556
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 3: misquoted him on several platforms. It wasn't just one instance either. So, uh,

557
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: there's a reason the light isn't on right now.

558
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Speaker 4: Let's just put that that waynext, including Adrian's one.

559
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Speaker 3: All right, speaking to young guys in the eighteen to

560
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Speaker 3: thirty four demo Darius Robinson? Is he getting enough attention

561
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: this offseason? Should there be I don't know. Should there

562
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: be more headlines and Asycardinals dot com? So there would

563
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: be more written about Darius Robinson and his impact? You

564
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: know it. Should there be a story like on last

565
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: year's first round pick and what sort of leap he

566
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Speaker 3: can make in year two?

567
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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, put Zach Gershman on it.

568
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: Get to I have to jump on that one sooner

569
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 4: rather than later. As OTAs began, I will say, it

570
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: is funny with everything we've talked about, and I know

571
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: we've talked about Darius, but the guy was a first

572
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: round pick.

573
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Speaker 3: I mean, he was a wrecking ball in camp.

574
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: I mean is he any less important than what Walter

575
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 4: Nolan is going to do?

576
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: Agreed, good point, you're right, but when you get injured.

577
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 5: And no, no, no, you don't just get to turn

578
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 5: the light on by yourself because you think you want

579
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 5: to go. You can't see that figured out.

580
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Speaker 3: Back there sign of a biscuit. Uh, you know you're not.

581
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: You're not in the in the headlines. You're not front burner.

582
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: You're back burner now when you're coming off injury. And

583
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: the end of the season definitely didn't look put it

584
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: this way, December and January didn't look anything like the

585
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: impact he was making in August, which is the rub.

586
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: August is most definitely not December or January. So there's

587
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: still a huge question mark. As big as he is,

588
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: as talented, as bullish as people are about his potential

589
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: in his future, there wasn't much proven in his rookie year.

590
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Speaker 5: Where is he starting on the depth chart? If we're

591
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 5: I'm going to go into this and say, okay, in

592
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 5: this scenario, Justin Jones and Malal Nichols are both healthy,

593
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 5: returned from injury, They're good to go. You have Kalais Campbell,

594
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 5: you have Dalvin Thomlinson, LJ. Collier, Dante Stills. Where is

595
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 5: Darius Robinson even starting on the depth chart, because not

596
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 5: only does he have to go out and perform, now

597
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 5: you have to work your way up and you have

598
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Speaker 5: to earn a spot. That's another crowded room.

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00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: I'd say the only automatic starter right here, right now

600
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: in the D line is Dalvin Tomlinson. The other two

601
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: D line spots to bed tournament. Now. Kalays Campbell has

602
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: started all seventeen games in each of the last two years.

603
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: He's obviously most definitely in the mix. That's where my

604
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: mind goes to next. And then after that, I mean

605
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: a Justin Jones, and then you would have to go

606
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: with the two first rounders the last two years, Walter

607
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: Nolan the third and Darius Robinson. I would think, and.

608
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Speaker 5: It's not you have to start or bust for Robinson

609
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 5: that that's not the point I'm making. It's just you

610
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 5: you still have a lot to prove. And he knows

611
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 5: that he felt that that he all, he had six

612
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 5: games under his belt by the time last season ended,

613
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Speaker 5: and that's barely enough to really scratch the surface. Because

614
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Speaker 5: the first six games of the regular season, that's usually

615
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Speaker 5: when you start to see rookies, the game slows down,

616
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 5: you can really see their natural ability and what their

617
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 5: understanding kind of help him take off of it. And

618
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 5: he didn't have that opportunity.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so here's my question, and I'm not asking who

620
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: should I'm asking who will make the greater impact, Darius

621
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Speaker 4: Robinson or b Jojlari.

622
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: Darius Robinson.

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Speaker 5: That's my gut as well. And I for when I'm

624
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Speaker 5: thinking about why it wouldn't be jo Jelari, I just

625
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 5: think of Josh Sweat, and I think that's just going

626
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 5: to be so much of where your power is going

627
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 5: to come from. And Ojelari's another player where there's a

628
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 5: lot of question marks. Looked good throughout camp before he

629
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Speaker 5: hurt his knee and then was out for the rest

630
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Speaker 5: of the year. And and this, if I'm remember correctly,

631
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Speaker 5: would be his first true offseason because he had been

632
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: heard and so there's just again I'm not even one.

633
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: Hundred percent sure he's getting a true true offseason.

634
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, we don't know where he is in

635
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 5: his rehab. So that I would go with Darius Robinson

636
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 5: just from even the health standpoint of what he's been

637
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 5: able to do until this point in the offseason.

638
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Speaker 4: It'll be fascinating to see what both of those guys

639
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: do during OTAs from what we're allowed to report on.

640
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Speaker 3: I mean, for all the question marks right now, best

641
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: case and I mean best case scenario like the lamp

642
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: if bj Ojulari comes back with a vengeance, if Darius

643
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Speaker 3: Robinson is that dude in year two, think of the potential,

644
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: Think of the possibilities for this defense. I mean, just

645
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: how different it could look.

646
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Speaker 4: We're talking about a first round pick and a second

647
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Speaker 4: round pick. I mean, we're not talking about like back

648
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: of the draft guys.

649
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: So that that's really intriguing.

650
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Speaker 5: In terms of okay, what do you have Is there

651
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: a position room more so than outside linebackers that has

652
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 5: question mark of where you're starting and where you think

653
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: expectations could be. Because Josh sweat, okay, you know what

654
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 5: you have in him? O Julari a lot of question

655
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 5: marks coming off injury. We don't even know if he's

656
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 5: fully healthy to be a full participant yet for OTAs

657
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 5: at this point.

658
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: What do you have from Xavier resigned?

659
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: Baron Browning? Right, but what are you pretty strong finish?

660
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: When he got reps at the end didn't.

661
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 5: Have a full year here in Arizona. What do you

662
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 5: have in Xavier Thomas coming off year one? What do

663
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 5: you have in the rookie Jordan Birch. What are you

664
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: going to do with Xavi and Collins and how you're

665
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 5: going to use him with these new pieces you've brought in,

666
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 5: not only in that position room, but also in the

667
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 5: defensive line and how that trickles down. There's a lot

668
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: of question marks of what you can expect from a

669
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 5: room as a whole, in that outside linebacker's room.

670
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: See when you list all those names, I just think

671
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: of the compete level in camp. Sure, this camp, to me,

672
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: especially on the defensive side, isn't going to be all

673
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: just stay healthy, just go ahead and skate your way through,

674
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: make sure you get to week one. No, there are

675
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: jobs to be won, there are roster spots to be had,

676
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: there's playing time to be decided. I just think the

677
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 3: compete level on the defensive side of the ball, at

678
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: least for corner, for d line, for edge, and then

679
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: who exactly is your middle linebacker? I mean there's some true,

680
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: authentic position battles that you're gonna see in camp this year.

681
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 3: And for that reason. I just think, combined also with

682
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: the strength of schedule coming out, I just think the

683
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: Cardinals come out of camp flying high, playing really good ball.

684
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: I think there's a really good start to the season

685
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: just based on how intense it's going to be in camp.

686
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: And I do think that's going to carry over. You know,

687
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: we've coined that saying the last couple of years sort

688
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: of half seriously half true that September is in New August.

689
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: You sort of ease your way into a season these days. No,

690
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: not the case for the Cardinals on the defensive side

691
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: of the ball, or I think they're gonna be regular

692
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: season ready just based on how intense is going to

693
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: be in August, especially when you're.

694
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 5: Looking at the first half of the season. Get bear

695
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 5: to the second half in terms of teams made the

696
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: playoffs last year, in consistency there and some of the

697
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 5: key pieces you're going to be going up against. You

698
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 5: start the season back to back weeks against teams who

699
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 5: had five wins last year in the Saints and the Panthers, right,

700
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 5: and then you're facing up to four new quarterbacks possibly

701
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 5: early in the season in New Orleans, in Tennessee, in Seattle,

702
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 5: and possibly Indianapolis depending on what the Colts society to

703
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 5: do with Anthony Richards, and they brought in Daniel Jones,

704
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 5: so the opportunity to take advantage of a fast start

705
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 5: is imperative for the Cardinals.

706
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: Speaking a list, going back to list one last time,

707
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 3: does anybody really care anymore where they put Kyler Murray

708
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: and some of these quarterback lists? I mean, when you ring.

709
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: I don't.

710
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to make a list of things,

711
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: I don't care about a who the Sons hire as

712
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: their next head coach.

713
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one.

714
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: Because I mean it doesn't matter at this point. It

715
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: just doesn't matter. And then number two would be where

716
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 3: they're going to rate Kyler Murray. Whether he's going to

717
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: be tenth, eleventh, seventeenth, what doesn't matter. He's going into

718
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: year seven. It's only about the wins and losses. To me,

719
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: I truly, I don't care about his quarterback rating. I

720
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: don't care about any of the stats. To me, it's

721
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: just all about the win loss records.

722
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 4: I've often said Paul is just about winning. It's it's

723
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: really nothing else.

724
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: There's someone who gets way too involved in the stats,

725
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: and so, okay, you want to stat there. Tough guy

726
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: turned this off for the man. Did you see the

727
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: one stat that of Marvin Harrison Juniors one hundred and

728
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: sixteen targets and he only had sixty two catches on

729
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixteen targets. We could argue there's one

730
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: area you want to see Marvin Harrison Junior get better.

731
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: It's got to be the catch to target ratio be

732
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: more efficient. But someone came out an analytics site and

733
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: rated forty five of those targets were uncatchable. Rated deemed

734
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: determined to be uncatchable. So when Kyler Murray talks about chemistry,

735
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 3: it's got to be better. We expect it to be better.

736
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: It will be better. I'm guessing that's that is true

737
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: evidence as to why it needs to get better.

738
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 4: I would love to know, because they do give targets

739
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 4: out and like intend in receivers on certain plays where

740
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: you're throwing it away.

741
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, it was Pro Football Focus have

742
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: it right here. Okay, forty five on catchable targets.

743
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 4: So you know, I don't think all of those were

744
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: like intended to be completed, let's put it that way.

745
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 4: But I mean, I think that's that's why I agree

746
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: with you number one, with Kyler like it's it's about

747
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: it's about the results. You don't want to get caught

748
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: up in QB wins with a Z when it comes

749
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: to like win loss record with a quarterback, because it's

750
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 4: such a team sport. But they need to win and

751
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: that's what he's going to be measured on, you know,

752
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 4: regardless of the rest of it. But when you get

753
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: inside those numbers, you would think that he's going to

754
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: have to have a much better consistent relationship on the

755
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: field with Marvin Harrison for them to be able to

756
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 4: get those wins. Right.

757
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely, the passing game was not consistent enough to where

758
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 5: it needed to be. And that's on more than just

759
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 5: the two of them, but absolutely, when you're the franchise

760
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 5: quarterback and you're the number one receiver, you have to

761
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 5: be on the same page. You need your number one

762
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 5: receiver to consistently be that number one threat every single game.

763
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: And it wasn't until the final two games of the

764
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 5: regular season that Harrison had back to back games with

765
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 5: fifty or more receiving yards. You need to be better

766
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 5: in that aspect, especially when you are as consistent in

767
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 5: the run game as you are. The more balanced you

768
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 5: can be, not in terms of how many run plays

769
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 5: versus how many pass plays, but the more balanced you

770
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 5: can be for consistency and the threat value. There is

771
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 5: imperative for this jump from year two to year three

772
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: with this coaching staff.

773
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: You know, it was interesting Kyler. I didn't realize this.

774
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: You guys might have seen this. It was mid April.

775
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: Kyler was doing the media rounds getting ready for a

776
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: softball game. He talked to Arizona Sports and he told

777
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: I believe it was Tyler Drake. He said, you know,

778
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: for Marvin Harrison Junior to have eight touchdowns and feel

779
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: like he didn't even scratch the surface, that's saying something.

780
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 3: Obviously me and him have to be better and will

781
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: be better. But I loved where he was mentally at

782
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: the end of the season. And then he cited just

783
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: comfort factor in the locker room with better and so forth.

784
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: But Marvin Harrison.

785
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 3: Junior hinted and talking to the media here recently about

786
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: how you know, the chemistry needs to be where there's

787
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 3: one hundred percent connection when you're throwing routes on air,

788
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: you have to be in sync with your quarterback like that.

789
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: So of the forty five uncatchable targets, I wonder how

790
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: many of those were on Marvin not being in the

791
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 3: right spot at the right time.

792
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 4: That's a fat question.

793
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: The way defense's disguise coverages these days, it's much more advanced,

794
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: it's much more in depth. And he sort of danced

795
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 3: around that a little bit with the media just being

796
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: you know, if I can be in the right spot

797
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: and read, you know, instead of just a route being called,

798
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: but I need to maybe change her out or adjusted

799
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: according to the coverage. That's where I can be better

800
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 3: in year two. And I'm sure that was a huge

801
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: learning curve, you know, right from the get go. So

802
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: to me, that's all correctable, and that's the kind of

803
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: thing you can learn. And so next year we'll see,

804
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 3: you know, Brian Thomas junior and Elikue Neighbors and Brock

805
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 3: Bauers and Land McConkie all had more rookie receiving yards

806
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: than Marvin Harrison Junior. We'll see about year number two.

807
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: I don't you know. And again with Trey McBride there

808
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: and the way I think this offense is going to

809
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: want to run through the run game, I'm still not

810
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 4: sold that all of a sudden, Marvin Harrison is going

811
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: to is going to have the numbers that blow you away,

812
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: even if he becomes really really good. Now he might

813
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: his touchdown numbers might be really good, but if he

814
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 4: has eleven hundred yards, I think he could have eleven

815
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: hundred yards and still be spectacular.

816
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 5: It's beyond the stats, though, and that's something we talked

817
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 5: about when it came to Trey McBride last year, who

818
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 5: finished with two receiving touchdowns. Right, is the eye test.

819
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 5: It's more than the numbers. It's more than the number.

820
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 5: With Harrison as well, think of the games where he

821
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 5: was so active in the game plan in the first

822
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 5: quarter and then didn't have a target until late in

823
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 5: the fourth. That's something too, is when I think consistency,

824
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 5: it's all of it. It's all encompassing of how you're

825
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 5: using your number one receiver.

826
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: So, Darren, are you saying for all the speculation the

827
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: Cardinals would even draft a receiver in round one, remember

828
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: all those mock drafts or round two? So the fact

829
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: in this past year, yeah, this past offseason.

830
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, a month ago, a month ago, the fact.

831
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: That Cardinals have not added a notable receiver either with

832
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: a draft pick or in free agency. Is that because

833
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: a they're a run first offense, or B they think

834
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior is going to take that leap and

835
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: actually check that box.

836
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's or bold. I think all of

837
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: the above. And I'm also throwing in there that there's

838
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: nobody out there that really they think is going to

839
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: be making a difference over the guys they already have

840
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 4: on the roster. I think when you add all those

841
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: things in, I think that's that's a part of it.

842
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well, I guess that could be called

843
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: winning behavior. So with that in mind, uh, the aforementioned

844
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: time to discuss, discuss all the above. Can you display

845
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: winning behavior?

846
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 5: You have to consistently display winning behavior.

847
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: That's winning behavior.

848
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

849
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 5: people to that standard.

850
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: Yes, I have to bring up real quick that fine

851
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: wolf noise whatever the heck you did it there at

852
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: the end. Had a question in the mailbag this year

853
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: this week, was really hoping we had video of him

854
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: making that noise.

855
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 5: I would not want to see the radio.

856
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: Call from the game, but so sorry about as someone

857
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 3: who has witnessed that more than once.

858
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's done that more than once.

859
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: You're you're better off, You're you're better off. Just uh yeah,

860
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: having audio only put it.

861
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 4: That way, that's disturbing.

862
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 3: Wolf actually beat me to vacation. That's never happened before.

863
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: So okay, uh, let's see here. We were talking about

864
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: the Eagles earlier. Yeah, and so okay, you guys, what

865
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: is it about the whole social media campaign you think

866
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 3: that is rankling everyone?

867
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna go back to where you were going

868
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: with it, and I didn't mean to cut you off earlier. Pon,

869
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 4: Feel free to rant away, but I'm with you. I

870
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: don't think it's real. I think it's They won the

871
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: tush push battle for now and again that was something

872
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: that else got twisted. It was a twenty two to

873
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: ten vote, but it wasn't a twenty two to ten

874
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: vote to keep the tush push. It was twenty two

875
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 4: to ten to get rid of it. But they needed

876
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 4: twenty four votes so they were short two votes.

877
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 3: So they only had ten votes.

878
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 4: To kill me. Only ten, but that's all they needed

879
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 4: for them to lean into it the way they did,

880
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: like you said on social media, in particular for me,

881
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: the twenty six minute YouTube video of all tush pushes.

882
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 4: Would I would get kind of irritated if I was

883
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: one of the teams.

884
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: You know what, just because you can go into your

885
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: computer editor and search tush push and then just go

886
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: ahead and throw all those together and one big montage

887
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: doesn't mean you should do it. Okay, just because technology

888
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 3: makes it easy for you to edit that together doesn't

889
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: mean you should push it out there.

890
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with winning behavior. They are the winning team.

891
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 5: Tush Push was a big part in that because they

892
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 5: were the most successful at it. That's why the argument became,

893
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 5: are people really against the tush push or are they

894
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 5: just against the fact that one team dominates it more

895
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 5: than any other team does. So, you know what, if

896
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 5: it's going to become an argument of one versus thirty

897
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 5: one and you happen to quote unquote win that argument,

898
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 5: I am all for having a little fun on social

899
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 5: media considering the fact they won the Super Bowl so

900
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 5: this offseason, I feel like anything goes when that's the case.

901
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: I'm just saying they're Q rating is plumbting. I mean,

902
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 3: in real time. Did you see the headline at NFL

903
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: dot com last week? And I quote Saquon Barkley says

904
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four Eagles are a top five team in

905
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: NFL history. No, they're really feeling themselves, smelling themselves. As

906
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: dj Hlmprees used to say in the offseason.

907
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 4: Again, I'm with Danny to the point where to the

908
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 4: victor go the spoils, which is fine, but.

909
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what else do we have on here? Okay,

910
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: this one, you're I mean, I need help at all times,

911
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: but especially in this case. State Farm Stadium again voted

912
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: number one.

913
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: What we talked about.

914
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 4: This last last year, I got the although you must

915
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: did you get the press releases? Where did you? No?

916
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 5: I didn't. I just saw it online. You got a

917
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 5: press release about that last year?

918
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 4: I did?

919
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 5: Oh no, So it came up last year. There's a

920
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 5: company called flash Picks, and I don't know what sparked

921
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 5: the initial desire to find an answer to this question

922
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 5: about the zombies. So for the second year, State Farm

923
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 5: Stadium was once again voted the number one stadium to

924
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 5: survive a zombie apocalypse when taking into account location, population,

925
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 5: stadium security features, and weather.

926
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: I e.

927
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: The retractable roof, which is.

928
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 4: The retractable roof? I love that part is so what

929
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 4: we can keep them out if we close the roof

930
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: the zombies or think so the zombies, Like if you're

931
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 4: in there and you need a little bit of sun

932
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: but they can't climb up the walls of the stadium,

933
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 4: you could still get a little sunlight in your world.

934
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, survivors somehow get all the zombies inside the stadium

935
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 5: and then close the roof.

936
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: That's a lot of ian's taking a risk.

937
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: I view it is okay, yes we're inside, but more importantly,

938
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: the zombies are outside in an Arizona summer. So if

939
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: it's about seventeen. But you know, zombies can survive a

940
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: lot of stuff, but can they survive one seventeen out

941
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: on the hot pavement.

942
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 5: I don't know the answer to that.

943
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: You can only you can only open the retractable roof

944
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 4: if it's seventy five degrees or less. Though, that's right, whatever.

945
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: I still can't believe I got rained on on the

946
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: sideline two years ago. Applebee's don't do it, do not

947
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: do it, don't do it, don't pull a red lobster.

948
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 3: It's back for a limited time, So this is interesting.

949
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: Unlimited is back for a limited time for fifteen ninety

950
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 3: nine it's all you can eat riblets, double crunch shrimp,

951
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: and chicken tenders, I.

952
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 5: Said the next Red Lobster mother, Dell.

953
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, our leader for many weeks, many weeks in the

954
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: power pool of incompetence, was the executive for Red Lobster

955
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 3: who went with all you can eat shrimp and literally

956
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: bankrupted the company.

957
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 5: I look, I've only eaten out of Applebee's once in

958
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 5: my life, and I cannot say that I was impressed

959
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 5: by my meal and any facet. But it just sounds

960
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 5: a riblet. How does that sound appealing? And why would

961
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 5: you want an unlimited amount of that?

962
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: Come on, Danny, don't don't act like you didn't have

963
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: a mic rib back in the day.

964
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 5: Come on, no, oh, come on, I'm not a big

965
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 5: McDonald's eater.

966
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: What if you just have a single crunch shrimp.

967
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 5: Done double yeah, So keep that, keep that in your

968
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: back pocket. Paul, were enough to even onund Applebee's and

969
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: how you're doing financially.

970
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 3: It's a cold war of crust. If I'm an Applebee's competitor,

971
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: I'm going with a triple crunt shrimp. That's what's coming

972
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 3: out next.

973
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: Possibly not if you get enough deep fried coding on it, there.

974
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: Might not be Yeah, that's right, okay, Darren, you put

975
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: you can't help, but put a basketball one in here.

976
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 4: It's the basketball player. So I thought this was a

977
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: fair go ahead, right, But we have to figure out

978
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: is this winning behavior that's not winning behavior? Where Tyrese

979
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: Haliburton's dad who famously was banned from being at games

980
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: because he was sitting sideline and couldn't keep his UH

981
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: personage off the court and taunt Jannis after a loss,

982
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: after a Bucks loss, and so he got banned. He

983
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: is now allowed back in only at Pacer home games. Uh,

984
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: and he's got to be up in a suite camp

985
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 4: be on the sideline.

986
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: So it's a dad time out. You just go up

987
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: to the suite.

988
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with winning behavior for the Pacers.

989
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 4: That's probably that was probably out right time, but absolutely

990
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 4: non winning behavior from him doing that in the first place.

991
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 4: And it's embarrassing that anybody would ever do it, much

992
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: less a person that actually raised a child is not embarrassing.

993
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 5: That headlines is like, hey, my dad's not allowed to

994
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 5: come to the basketball game, and then headlines, hey my

995
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: dad's allowed back.

996
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this too. I think it's absolutely non

997
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 4: winning behavior that this has been treated like he was

998
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: unlawfully detained by Russia and is now getting let out

999
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 4: of prison. Like the dude totally deserved probably more than

1000
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: he got punishment. Let's not celebrate him.

1001
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: He's lucky. Yannis is one of the nicest people on

1002
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: the planet. I'm with you there, because that could have

1003
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 3: got ugly, and yeah, he could have got body slammed

1004
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 3: right out there on the hardwood. Here's a bonus one.

1005
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: I saw this headline a little earlier. Here's the actual

1006
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: headline in the Wall Street Journal. You ready a surprising

1007
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: reason why shoppers refrain from buying healthy foods. Triguing headline

1008
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: right makes you want to click. The healthier the food,

1009
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: the faster it goes bad, or so people think. So

1010
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: Americans are less apt to buy healthy food versus unhealthy

1011
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: food because they think it's more apt to go bad,

1012
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: which could be a wasted expenditure, as if carrots and

1013
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 3: apples and raisins and I don't know, granola and broccoli

1014
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: and spinach and kale and whatever else quemoa all don't

1015
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: have pretty good shelf lives. Come on, now, people don't

1016
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: don't use it as an excuse for not eating healthy.

1017
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 5: You're telling me you've never purchased a bag of spinach,

1018
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 5: and then it's gone bad before you even opened it.

1019
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, okay, but I'm gonna throw the other part

1020
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 4: out there is the reason you didn't open it is

1021
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 4: because you had no interest in eating. Yes, so yeah,

1022
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: it's gonna go bad after three weeks. You bought the

1023
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 4: damn thing, and then every time you saw it and

1024
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 4: there you're.

1025
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 3: Like, you bought the spinach and you bought the cookies.

1026
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: Which one got opened? First?

1027
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 5: You were motivated at the grocery store, and then you

1028
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 5: got home and when it it's time to make a

1029
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 5: meal or have a snack.

1030
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 4: You had the Halapanio popper.

1031
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: Doritos were those double or triple crunch the poppers. Uh.

1032
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm gonna throw in a couple of

1033
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: powerpole of incompetence, a couple of quick entries. Both come

1034
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: from the Indy five hundred Fox and its maiden voyage

1035
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: on the broadcast, and they got lamb based for inserting

1036
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: more commercials than a Super Bowl and they did get

1037
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: I ratings. They missed the winner crossing the finish line.

1038
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 3: How at the very moment where the checkered was going

1039
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: to be flying and the winners crossing the you know

1040
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: the bricks there, they cut to an inconsequential crash at

1041
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: the back of the pack. So it was an ignominious end,

1042
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 3: just like it was an embarrassing start for mister Scott McLoughlin.

1043
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: Did you see what Scott McLoughlin did. The driver at

1044
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: the very beginning said it was the worst moment of

1045
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 3: his life when he crashed on the parade lap. They

1046
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: hadn't happened, They hadn't even started racing yet, the going

1047
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: probably half speed, and way back in the day when

1048
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: I actually covered Indy five hundred as a young punk,

1049
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: and my photographer said, when you interview Roberto Guerrero, I

1050
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: dare you to ask him about crashing on the parade

1051
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: lap the year before, and he bet me lunch. I

1052
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: went and asked him. Oh, I asked Roberto Guerrero about that,

1053
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 3: and I got an all time quote about, yeah, it's

1054
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: freaking embarrassing, and and he went off and he gave

1055
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: you a good quote, though no he owned it. He

1056
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: I talked about how embarrassing it was for him. In

1057
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety something to crash on the parade lap and

1058
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 3: I never thought i'd see that again in my life,

1059
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: and then it happened on Sunday, the one hundred ninth

1060
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 3: running to the Indy five hundred.

1061
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 4: So winning behavior, but yeah, when you crash it automatically

1062
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: not winning basically.

1063
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: So there you go. Winning behavior would be international games.

1064
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 3: And I see that down here? Did you see Did

1065
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: we bring this up? The NFL executive in charge of

1066
00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: TV and content, speaking to ratings mentioned how well those

1067
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 3: international games do in the early early slot. Yeah, on

1068
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 3: the East Coast, we talked about that, right.

1069
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think we talked about how well they do.

1070
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 4: But it's you know, I've often thought this for those

1071
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 4: of us in the West Coast who get to wake

1072
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 4: up essentially with football, like that's something the East Coast

1073
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 4: people never get to do.

1074
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: And they love it when they get When you're on

1075
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: the East Coast and you get to have football at

1076
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: nine to ten in the mornings, they love it just

1077
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 3: like we love it on the West Coast. Yes, so,

1078
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: of course, So if the international game is sixteen seventeen

1079
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: games a year and the East Coast wakes up to that,

1080
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 3: and then you have what is the ten am kickoff

1081
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 3: our time? And the one o'clock kickoff our time, and

1082
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 3: then the Sunday night games, and all of a sudden,

1083
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: there's four TV slots every single Sunday. I mean, is

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Speaker 3: there any doubt that's where the NFL is aiming this thing? Me?

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Speaker 4: I'll make it. I went to I mean, it's been

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Speaker 4: a decade now. I went to some league meetings and

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Speaker 4: we were having some it was it was for content

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Speaker 4: people for all the teams, and we were having this

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Speaker 4: meeting and I was at some cocktail reception. I started

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Speaker 4: talking to somebody from the league and back then they

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Speaker 4: were talking about, Yeah, our goal is to eventually get

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Speaker 4: every team playing an international game every year, and that's

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Speaker 4: become clear as we go forward, and I think Roger

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Speaker 4: Goodell actually said it the other day that that's what

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Speaker 4: they hoped to get to.

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Speaker 5: We're not far from an eighteen game season with two

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Speaker 5: by weeks and an international game guaranteed every year. There

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Speaker 5: was a question your mail bag which made me laugh

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Speaker 5: of someone. Yeah, someone had asked if I was so

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Speaker 5: sad or maybe upset. It's how it came off that

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals did not get the Germany game against the Colts.

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Speaker 5: If that was because of a personal reason or the team,

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Speaker 5: it's one hundred percent personal. Why would I not want

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Speaker 5: an opportunity to go across the country, across the world

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Speaker 5: to Germany. It was one hundred percent personal. If it's

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Speaker 5: up to the players or coaches, I don't know how

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Speaker 5: many of them, minus maybe a young player who hasn't

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Speaker 5: had that experience, I don't know how many of them

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Speaker 5: would say I am absolutely pro having an international game

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Speaker 5: where I've got to be on a long flight and

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Speaker 5: I've got to change my routine. I've got a just

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Speaker 5: jet lag.

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Speaker 4: I guarantee you there isn't a coach in the world

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Speaker 4: who wants that.

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Speaker 5: That was a personal why we're not.

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Speaker 4: Going to Sea, Jeremy, I was disappointed personally. I'm with

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Speaker 4: Danny on this one. I'm team Let's go on an

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Speaker 4: international road trip for me.

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Speaker 3: So, Danny, did you send a letter into the Roger

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Speaker 3: Goodell's mail bag, you know, sort of like Darren's. Did

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Speaker 3: you find another mail bag Durant and submit your own

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Speaker 3: note or no?

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Speaker 5: Not yet. That's a good idea though.

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Speaker 3: You got to be heard on that front. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, any other sundry items we missed here on

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Speaker 3: this edition of Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 4: I'm just now you've got me thinking about maybe I

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Speaker 4: should go to the graduation ceremony this week.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not nearly as profound as Waldo Emerson,

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Speaker 3: but you know, like I told the eighteen year old

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Speaker 3: punk the other day, you man, the tassel is worth

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Speaker 3: the hassle. And that'll do it for this edition of

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