WEBVTT - 2026 White Sox Trade Deadline Preview | Episode 128 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.080 Socks on thirty fifth is next. 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:09.400 Doors open on the left. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.640 How's it going, everybody? This is your host, Duke Colfin 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.159 and welcome to the Socks on thirty fifth podcast. We 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.800 are back with another exciting episode covering yours Cargo White Sox. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.400 I am joined this week by Michael Swarow, Jordan Lazowski, 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.960 Nick Gower. Two of these guys are here all the time. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:28.120 Michael's here. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.360 Have you been on the show, Michael, Yeah, I think 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:34.680 it's like the twentieth time now that this is my 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:36.840 first time on the show. For if we're keeping track, 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.280 I gotta go back and like count exactly how many 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:40.560 times it's been, But it's got. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:42.959 To be in the twenties by now. Yeah, I mean 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.279 there's a only there's only twenty first impression. So we're 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:50.879 glad you're here to make the twentieth gentlemen. Obviously with 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:55.880 the Astros winning the series, Uh, we couldn't let him sleep? 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.480 When we're talking Mark Kammas shows, how couldn't let him sleep? 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:04.800 What again? How we feeling about the White Sox this weekend? Guys? 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.839 Still fine? Like, I don't know, it was a dumb game. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.000 I really hated this weekend series. To be honest with you, 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.960 Sunday was nice. Friday everyone called me dramatic from my 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.560 thought that they if the season doesn't go the way 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.959 they want, they might really regret that game. We're gonna 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.160 have to get into that totally just yet, because you 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:26.840 just asked me how I'm doing, But I'm doing good 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:27.720 things for asking Duke. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.319 Yeah, yeah, same here. I mean I kind of agree 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.080 with Jordan. Other than today's game. Obviously, it was a 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.720 bit of a tough series to watch, but I'm doing well. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.120 And it's kind of interesting because I remember on one 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.720 of our old episodes, Jordan had like it was like 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.120 a fun fact or something, but he was like he 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:44.320 had never been to a concert. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:45.720 That was like his fact. 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:47.360 And the reason I bring that up is because I 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.680 just finished a stretch where I went to five concerts 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.760 in six weeks. I'm like, I'm done with it now, Like, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.240 but it's kind of funny. I've thought about Jordan. When 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:56.960 I realized, I was like, oh, that's like we couldn't 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:58.320 be more different in that regard. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.680 Well, I'm going to one in November Zach ground Band. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.760 I'm a huge country fan, so I'm looking forward to that. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.480 But that'll be like number three. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.000 So okay, I got a ways to go. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.080 You're getting that counts on a good show. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:13.360 I've been to one of his concerts. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.840 I have heard that so fun. I have heard that 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:18.839 they definitely put on a good show, so I'm very 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.600 excited for it. So they're one of my favorites. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.120 Yeah, I'm doing good as well. Uh, no concerts on 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.040 my agenda. I am going to be at the SOXS 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.480 game tomorrow though, And uh, I think I do have 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:34.040 to try one of those new sushi push pops that 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.440 they're apparently like. I was sketched out about them at first, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.440 but everyone's saying they're really good. So I'm like, all right, 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:41.040 now I have to try one. And I think there's 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.720 one like two sections away for where I'm gonna be sitting, 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.240 So I have to and I will let you guys 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:46.839 know how they are. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:52.000 Okay, So as a genuine and you know, I'm sorry 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.440 if this is just earth chattering anybody. I'm not a 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.799 big sushi guy. I don't enjoy the idea of a 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:01.240 raw fish in any sort of way. That's really nasty 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.040 food poisoning in the past. Because of that, it also 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.360 doesn't surprise me that, like, I need a check from 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.800 everybody right now. So Michael's obviously sushi. 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:15.359 Guy, last big sushi guy. Nick not really only for 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.160 that work, and I like kind of have to eat. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:23.560 It, okay, So it's it's ceremoniously split because Nick will 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.600 not go out and search for sushi, but last obviously 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.240 big sushi guy. Michael, you got a lot us know 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.160 how it is, because yeah, I mean you hear sushi 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.400 push pop and red Flags pop in your head. It's 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.360 it's catchy, but a push pop with sushi. It's like 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.400 I don't know, I thought about it. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.720 Yeah, I was sketched out at first, but like every 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.680 review comes like they're like saying like this has like 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.880 no business being as good as it is. I think 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.080 they're I don't think these are raw fish. I think 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.320 it's like ones like imitation crab, the others shrimp Temporal, 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.400 both of which are like cooked seafood. So I think 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.960 that helps a little bit. Still a weird concept, but 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:10.400 I feel like I just have to try some country. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.120 Music and sushi. Michael, you and I have more in 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.680 common than I thought. All right, now we have to 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.919 go to a concert together. I know that's what it 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:18.520 sounds like. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.400 I'm so down for that. Well, as a non Senshian 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.920 jar and country fan, I'll just stick to Luke Holmb's so. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:29.880 That's fine too. I'll accept that. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:36.040 Well anyway, as riveting as sushi and country music is together. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.960 We've got quite a bit to cover in this episode, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.800 but before we get started, be sure subscribe to the 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.960 podcast on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and anywhere else to your podcast. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.760 Also sure to check out the website socks on thirtyfifth 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.880 dot com, as well as following us on Facebook, Twitter, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.760 and Instagram at sos on thirty fifth and YouTube as well, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.279 where we already have some questions going White Sox O 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.760 three says, good afternoon, boys. It is eight pm here, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.000 so maybe the time's a little bit off, but I 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:09.279 do appreciate it anyway. We we love our fans regardless. So, 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.560 as I kind of alluded to in the intro, White 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:16.880 Sox struggled against the Astros the sixth inning. I don't 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.640 think I need to say anything more than that, but 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:22.040 it felt like it was just doomed. Every single time 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.880 we would we would start pitching in the six and 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.279 we saw the absolute worst of it over the weekend 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.440 Is this something that's been a common threat throughout the season. 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.480 Maybe not, but there have been points in the season, 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.440 in my opinion, where I feel like we have hit 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.599 that one snag in the line and really let it 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:47.440 affect the rest of the game for us. Did anything 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.640 from these games change your guys opinion? Micha go, I'll 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.479 let you kick it off because you're the host. Did 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.719 anything from these games kind of like kick it off? 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.119 Or you're the guest? I should say, I'm sorry, it's 0:05:58.200 --> 0:05:59.520 it's Sunday, dude, I'm just. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:01.240 Taking your job. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:08.039 What's that? That's not apparently I'm taking your job now, Well, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.200 it'd be crazy for a first time guess to take 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:15.320 my job. But what are your takeaways from this weekend? 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:20.200 Obviously it's it's something we've seen before. It's not the 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.680 first time something like this has happened. But how how 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.240 dire does losing two out of three to the Astros feel? 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.560 I mean, really not that dire because Cleveland just got 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.479 swept and so after this series we still gained a 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.920 game on them. It also just kind of more than 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:42.160 anything confirmed like my concerns about this team, like we 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.719 need more pitching, we need to add some pitching to 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.919 this team. So that's really where I'm at, is like 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.800 we're still in the playoff on that hasn't changed, but 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:57.440 like bolster the bolster, the rotation gets some more reliable 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.440 arms so that we don't have to throw sy Anthy 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.760 Tomingas out there in any important innings anymore. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:03.800 Uh. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.400 But in general, like the series kind of sucked. But 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.280 I'm not like overreacting to Like I'm not saying like, oh, 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.840 like we can't be buyers anymore, Like my my opinion 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:14.760 hasn't really changed. 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.000 Yeah, my biggest thing from the week is okay, and 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.120 I put out what everyone not everyone. A lot of 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:23.880 people called it dramatic, where I'm like, and I even 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.200 called it dramatic, like losing a five to nothing leading 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.960 the sixth inning at what twelve outs to get like 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.360 you're gonna regret that at some point the season, even 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.360 if it all goes well, and especially if it doesn't. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.960 Everyone's like, oh, that's it's dramatic. It's just one game. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.760 They all mean the same like yes, but no, because 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:46.320 Cleveland lost that day too, So that for me is like, 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.400 all right, you were in the driver's seat, you gave 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.640 up the driver's seat you crashed the car practically, and 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.880 it was a chance to pick up a game, right Like, 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.600 it kept putting pressure on, like you had to pick 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.520 up something this weekend, especially if Cleveland wasn't gonna win 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.840 a ball game. You can't go and get swept when 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:10.840 your opponent gets swept, your division rival opponent gets swept. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.760 That was the frustration for me, and I think even 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.440 Venable kind of said it too, like you know that 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:21.080 can't happen essentially, like even if they all mean the 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.960 same in the grand scheme of one sixty two, like 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.520 there was this division by a game or two. You 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.880 look at games like this, not where you get shut out, 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.520 right whatever, that that's gonna happen. That's baseball. It's when 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.679 you just melt down. You had the game practically on 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.679 ice at that point at five nothing and you can 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:42.120 finish it off. Does it change much? No, realistically confirms 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.640 like Michael said, some of the issues. But it's just 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.360 more of a frustration more than anything else. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.719 I guess I'll say, yeah, I'm kind of in the 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.000 same place as you too. I mean, Friday's game in 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:53.880 a lot of ways felt like a fever dream in 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.440 that there were like thirteen popouts by White Sox hitters. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.720 Everything was a pop up that was insane. And then 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.720 on top of that the dread and sixth inning we're 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.319 talking about, Like, yeah, it was a beginning for Houston. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.720 It would have been a beginning either way. But I 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.560 will say, like two, I think actually three of their 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.240 hits were just like chopped directly down into the ground 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.320 at like fifty four miles an hours, Like there's nothing 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:16.960 you can do when I that that is basically a 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.000 free single, even if the slowest runner on the team 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.360 is running. So that happened like three times the same thing. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.679 I say, Okay, like this is just not our our 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.840 in a not our day or whatever. It's baseball, right, 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.200 it's like playing Cleveland. That stuff always happens for Cleveland. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.280 What is more frustrating to me, and it's not the 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:35.119 team's fault necessarily, but just the day to day consistency 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.240 of the offense is so strange. Like all of July, 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.280 it's been like either score eight to twelve runs or 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.600 they're scoring like zero to one. And I feel that 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.679 has been the case for too long now. We were 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.720 talking before this game, Sunday's a game about how they 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.560 hadn't hit a home run in like a week, then 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.800 they hit like four or five and one game. Like again, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.120 I understand it's they don't really you can't really control 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:55.520 some of this stuff. But at the same time, there's 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.439 a lot of variance in this offense, and I would 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:01.079 love like more consistent like four to run outputs rather 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.400 than these you know, high highs and low lows that 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.640 they're putting up well. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.480 And I almost wonder what the scouting report, like, what 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.920 the scouting report would be for the White Sox offense 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.920 and how teams handle certain pictures with certain strengths going 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.840 into our lineup, because it feels like, kind of like 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.080 you said, Nick, we really do come into some of 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.719 these games and the offense is just ready from the go, 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.840 swinging the bad hard. There was an example before in 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.360 the at bat that Miguel Vargas hit a home run today. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.960 You could see off the first swing even when he missed, 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.520 and like it's like, oh, Miguel's trying to take this 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.800 out of the ballpark. That's at bat, like he was 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:41.679 swinging hard, and you know that's it's not like an 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.280 effort thing. It's not like a you know, like why 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:45.920 aren't these guys trying to hit home runs every single 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.560 time at the bad thing? But I almost wonder what 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:53.280 the game plan is going into certain picture strengths. I 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.240 wonder kind of what the scouting report looks like and 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.000 kind of like what they're trying to emphasize on a 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.640 day to day basis, because there are some days where 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.360 you can tell, well, the hitting philosophy is like let's 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.079 you know, let's get some home runs. Like this, this 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.240 pitching rotation or this pitcher that we have on the 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.320 mound to day gives up home runs. Uh, the relievers 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.440 that they would likely use if we had a closer game, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.200 they strike out a lot of people, but they do 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.920 give up very hittable balls, And then you know, like 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.720 how do they handle teams that are specifically like weak 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.680 ground ball type pitching? You know what I mean? So 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.600 I almost want, like, I wonder what the philosophy that 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.760 is going forward, not to try to make excuses for 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.520 the lineup. Sometimes guys just you know, yeah, they have 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.800 a tough day at the office. That's baseball. I also, 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:40.240 I think last to your point about you know, watching 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.480 seeing games like that and like looking back on it 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.400 and then seeing where you are later in the year, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.520 once you're in like September and wondering what you could 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.720 have done different. That's certainly that's a good point to have. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.840 The biggest thing is the White Sox have to realize 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.880 when they when these games happen, it puts more strenuous 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.160 effort on what they have to do it in September, 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.640 and I think with a team that's not totally experienced 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.079 of being in a playoff run, that's maybe not something 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.280 they're going to totally grasp right now, but it's something 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.520 they could grasp by the time it really gets to 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.520 the final end. The final stretch of the year here 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.360 in cleveland's really putting pressure on us. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:22.720 So yeah, I just and again I don't like reacting 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:27.040 overreacting to one one game, right, And it comes off 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.480 very much like that when I say what I said. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.480 But at the same time, it's like we've talked all 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.760 season about the waves of changing expectations for this team, 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:40.040 and that's that's part of the calculus here, right We're 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.240 about to have a whole episode as we go through 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.000 just fan questions about like buying at the deadline, and 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:47.800 it's not like one game is going to change that 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.960 a lot of people are panicing like, oh, I hate 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:54.120 losing around the deadline. That's not You've already decided your direction, 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.720 like seven days before. You know which way you're going 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.840 for the most part at this point, so it's not 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.679 that drastic of a change. But what it really comes 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.920 down to being is you know, how often do you 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:13.040 let your flaws get exposed? And I think that was 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.640 just a clear example, like everything got exposed at the 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.280 same time. It's kind of a good wake up call 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.040 for probably Chris gets like, hey, if you if you're 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:24.040 really gonna do something to help this team, everything went 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.640 on display that night for you, so go figure it 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.800 out from there. Kind of all series actually too, some 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.680 of the starting pitching concerns, bullpen concerns because of the 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:38.319 starting pitching concerns, and how that all kind of added 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.000 up together well, And I. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.320 Think you framed that well, and Michael, I don't Michael 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:43.720 or Nick, I'm not sure if you have a different 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.760 opinion on it, but I think I don't think this 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.520 changes any sort of idea of what Chris Gott's going 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.440 to do with the deadline. As you said, I think 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.560 he kind of has it set set in stone that 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.400 any moves, any non moves he's gonna make is already 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.199 pretty clear. It's just it's just a valuation at this point, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.920 you know, like kind of similar to like how before 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:05.480 the season started, we thought this team was going to 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.600 be terrible, so the evaluation was going to be who's 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.920 going to be here next year? The evaluation right now 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.000 is like, oh, we're really good. Who who can we 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:18.240 realistically move? And what do we realistically need to make 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.960 that final run stretch here at the end. You know. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.440 So I don't think this, I don't think this would 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.080 change any sort of target or who we could possibly 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:27.120 give up in any stretch. 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.120 No, it just it just more than anything I said, 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:36.040 it amplifies things and to reframe that exact phrase and 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.320 puts a spotlight on it right like that that game 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.080 was this week Like I said, this weekend was everything 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.920 where it's like, hey, solidified everything we're going to talk 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:45.280 about here. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:52.040 Yeah, And you know, I I think Sunday shows what 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.480 this what this lineup is still capable of as well, 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.000 and what we can do even if there are some 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.520 runs across the board, we can still make it a 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.480 game that's you know, outside of reach. I mean even 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.160 look at last week, I think what we scored five 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.920 runs in the eighth or ninth inning of a game 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.880 that we were already winning comfortably. So, like the the 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.840 the guns can get turned on fast, and the offense 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.280 isn't something that anybody should really be too worried about. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.080 I think we'll find a way to be able to 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.640 stay competitive on a game and game basis. But makes 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.400 a job a lot easier for the offense when you 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.920 have the right arms on the mound throughout the entire game. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.960 So I think that's going to be still the number 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:34.560 one priority for the White Sox. Michael, you recently wrote 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.160 an article speaking of the trade deadline and kind of 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.120 like looking at what we're looking at about prospects who 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.960 might be available for the White Sox trade at the deadline. 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.480 How did you come across coming up with these names? 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.760 Do they have cool sounding names? And do they you think, 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.880 you know, maybe that's something that could go towards another 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:58.640 team marketing department? Are they twenty eight years old and 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.920 they're hitting really well in double lay? How did you 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.000 come up with these names? 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.560 Yeah, the way that their names sound is always how 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.520 I do my my prospect drinkings in case, everyone was 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:09.160 wondering like that. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.920 Tim tim tim Elko has just the name has so 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.440 much star power without even knowing what he does. Tim 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.960 Elko was never part of my top thirty and never 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.600 will be. No, we'll speaking that. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.400 Actually it was kind of timed up well because since 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.960 the draft I have been going back and updating or 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.440 getting ready for socks on thirty fifths mid season Top 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.760 thirty prospect drinkings, so names are already kind of you know, 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:41.280 fresh in my head. But it just kind of looking around, 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:46.480 like who could teams realistically be interested in? Is like 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.280 how I was looking at it, and like who, Like like, 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.760 where do we have surpluses in positional depth? Does that 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.720 line up with what some of these sellers might be 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.560 looking for? Like specifically, we have a lot of middle 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.080 and field depth, and that's something that most teams that 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.600 are sellers, like they're going to be looking for shortstops, 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.600 like they typically have a little more positional value. And 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.439 again that's something that we have a decent amount of. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.320 So like that I highlighted that in the article. Won't 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.199 give up too much so you guys can go read it. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.680 But yeah, it's more just like where do we have 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:23.000 like names that teams realistically would be interested in that 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:28.080 actually carry some value, but like the White Sox could be. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.879 Willing to move. I guess is the easiest way to put. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:36.359 It, Michael, Let me ask you this on top of that, now, 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.879 how much do you buyd In the most recent report, 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.560 the Socks aren't willing to trade anyone inside their top 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:45.280 ten prospects, which depending on the list might mean different 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.680 guys at seven, eight, nine, to ten, whatever. But also, 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:50.960 what do you think of the idea? And I mentioned 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.920 it last episode of it seems like a lot of 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.040 guys around the trade deadline are those eighteen nineteen year 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:02.879 olds who maybe have a little bit of helium but 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:07.320 aren't twenty one, twenty three. More importantly, the teams really 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:11.439 look for younger prospects, especially at the trade deadline, more 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.200 than anything else. Do you feel like that's a detriment 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.080 to the Socks at all in terms of where they 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:16.720 stand right now or do you still feel like, hey, 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.440 they can still put together competitive packages for the deadline. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.360 I mean that they've got some names that are some 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.280 guys that are that kind of fit that demographic. But 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.080 if that is what sellers are looking for, then that 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.119 does kind of put us a little bit behind. You know, 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.320 we like recently we've been doing a little bit better 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.040 at drafting you know, guys out of high school, and like, 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:45.280 you know, we just completely overhauled our international scouting system, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:50.200 David Keller running it now, but we've already had several 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.520 international classes in place before he even took uh took 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.760 that job, so we're still a little bit behind in 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.240 that department. There's been a few breakout guys in the 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.360 Dominican Summer League, but like those are all like that's 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.919 almost like so far away that you really don't know 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.520 much about some of those guys, So I'm not sure 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:14.080 how much trade value they'll specifically have. Most of the 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:15.840 guys that we have, like I said, are going to 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.919 be like middle and fielders and like high like between 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.199 low Way and Double A, that are going to be 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:26.000 like our primary trade ships some I mean, but like 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.440 at if we're talking about like the very top of 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.040 what we have available, we can put together trade pacts 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.080 for anyone because those two guys that we have at 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.640 the top of our of I guess if you were 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:41.120 to rank our trade ships, it's Caleb Bonomer and Billy Carlson, 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.240 both are twenty years old and younger, and both are 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:49.160 pretty pretty unanimously considered top bunch of prospects. I mean, 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.720 Bonhomer is probably a top twenty prospect at this point. 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.560 Carlson I think is in the fifties right now in 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.000 MLB pipeline. I know we fell off of Baseball America's list, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.959 but that's more because the injury versus he's actually playing. 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.120 So like those those two guys alone can pretty much 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.359 like if we're willing to move them, which is a 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:11.159 big if, could put us in any conversation really and 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.119 then we do have a good amount of depth in 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.359 the system. It just depends on, like you said, if 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.560 teams are looking for more those like eighteen nineteen year 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:21.760 old like high upside, high risk guys, that might put 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:23.720