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Speaker 1: Monday edition of The Clay and Buck Show kicks off

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Speaker 1: right now. I hope you all had a fantastic Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed mine very much. Clay, you enjoy your Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't talked to you in many days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had an awesome time down in Florida. A

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Speaker 2: lot of beach football, lots of good times had by all.

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Speaker 2: So I hope everybody out there has gotten safely back

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Speaker 2: or will be getting safely back to their homes and

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Speaker 2: had great time with friends and families. Really good getaway.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there was a lot of celebration among our

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Speaker 2: crew still with the election outcome, probably a lot of enjoyment.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we can have some fun stories about left wing

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Speaker 2: Kamala voters and how they handled Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: But I thought it went pretty well. A lot to

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Speaker 1: be thankful for this holiday season, particularly if your name

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Speaker 1: is Hunter biden Acual. We jump right in. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot of things were gonna talk to you about today.

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Speaker 1: We have Miranda Devine joining in the third hour, so

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Speaker 1: if you can stick aroun for that. She's Laptop from

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Speaker 1: Hell author filed the Hunter case more closely than really anybody,

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Speaker 1: and I think you'll want to hear what she has

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Speaker 1: to say about this. And Clay, the big news that

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Speaker 1: just broke last twenty four hours that Hunter Biden has

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Speaker 1: been pardoned. We're going to dive into this. I was

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Speaker 1: in New York City a lot of stories about the

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Speaker 1: crime and migrants specifically and migrant crime, which I want

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Speaker 1: to talk with all of you about. And you see

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Speaker 1: migrants in the streets begging for money, and this is

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Speaker 1: really affected New York. As I was up there visiting

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Speaker 1: my family for the holiday, Cash Patel announced officially as

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Speaker 1: Trump as his next pick for FBI director. Cash is

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Speaker 1: a friend of ours, a friend of the show. It's

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Speaker 1: who we had said we wanted. So when you get

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Speaker 1: what you want, you've just got to be happy, I think,

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Speaker 1: and thankful. So let's just see if he can get confirmed.

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Speaker 1: That's a whole other part of this. Oh and then

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Speaker 1: a bunch of terrorists, gee hottists in Syria overran Aleppo

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Speaker 1: and people are a little bit concerned about what's going

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Speaker 1: on there. We'll see if we have time to dive

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Speaker 1: into some of that. Today I got to start Clay

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Speaker 1: with because there was a lot going into today and

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Speaker 1: then yesterday with the Hunter Biden parden. We knew this

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Speaker 1: was going to happen, we actually said many times on

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Speaker 1: the show, and I'm sure so many of you agreed

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Speaker 1: with us. But what was fascinating here as we see

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Speaker 1: this whole situation unfold, was that they pretended that they

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Speaker 1: didn't know in the media because they wanted Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: win the election. They acted like they were so dumb.

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Speaker 1: We even have here here's well, do you want to

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Speaker 1: play our prediction? First, let's do the prediction. This is

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Speaker 1: one of this is going back in time, old school.

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Speaker 1: I believe this is May nineteenth of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: US saying that Hunter would get the pardon from Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden as one of his final official acts. This one,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, nailed. Let's listen to it.

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Speaker 3: He's going to pay a fine and he's going to

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Speaker 3: plead to some misdemeanor. There will be no jail time, right,

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Speaker 3: that's the like you think, like he's not actually gonna

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Speaker 3: go to trial and face.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get charged, as you keep saying.

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Speaker 3: But like, but what I'm saying is he might. Oh

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Speaker 3: you're saying he might get charged criminally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you get charged criminally.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's gonna look, the reality is, I

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Speaker 2: think they'll try and and and drag it out because

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Speaker 2: I really think there's a strong chance that one of

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Speaker 2: his final acts in office, because I just I keep

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Speaker 2: watching Joe Biden buck and I just find it impossible

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Speaker 1: Going to be able to run for re election.

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Speaker 2: And so I think one of his final acts may

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Speaker 2: be pardoning his son.

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Speaker 1: That was two years ago. But I mean, so that's

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Speaker 1: a great call in advance. But I'm talking about Clay

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Speaker 1: the media after he was charged, and it was a

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Speaker 1: ants that was way in advance of the whole story.

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Speaker 1: The past six months, we've been hearing NonStop or something

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Speaker 1: like that, six months that Joe Biden's not gonna pardon

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Speaker 1: his son even though he's already been found guilty. Okay, ye,

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Speaker 1: you're you're talking of So to just to be clear,

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Speaker 1: Clay here is projecting out two years and what's correct

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Speaker 1: two years in advance. But the story from the from

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Speaker 1: guilty of multiple felonies, is facing time in prison, and

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Speaker 2: Let me say this too, Buck, I do think this

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Speaker 2: is evidence of how duplicitous and lying they are. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that you and I are uniquely geniuses and

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Speaker 1: It was self evident.

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Speaker 2: The only way Biden wasn't going to pardon Hunter is

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Speaker 2: think Kamala would have pardoned Hunter and that would have

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Speaker 2: let Biden off the hook for doing it. Or if

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Speaker 2: Trump in a handshake agreement they trusted each other and

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Speaker 2: Trump was going to do it. But the idea that

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Speaker 2: Joe was ever going to let Hunter go to prison

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Speaker 2: was on its face absurd to anyone with a functional

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Speaker 2: we could, could we grab one of the times or

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Speaker 2: we said the last six months that one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: he's going to pardon Clay, and I totally agreed on

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Speaker 2: that one hundred percent he's going to pardon his son.

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Speaker 2: There's no was It was laughable, and we said it

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Speaker 1: It just was absurd. There was no way. Meanwhile, in

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Speaker 1: media land, this is cut too. Here's what in advance

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Speaker 1: of the election, mind you, they were all saying about

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Speaker 4: Presidential promise to put the law before a family, letting

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Speaker 4: the world know that he will not wipe away the

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Speaker 1: The President has ruled out pardoning his son.

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Speaker 2: Major commitment from the President, accepting the outcome of the

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Speaker 5: One side, Democrats and Joe Biden protecting the justice system,

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Speaker 5: and on the other Republicans and Trump protecting Trump. Our

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Speaker 5: current president of the United States has so much respect

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Speaker 5: for the law that he has said he would not

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Speaker 6: He is not pardoning his son, which he could do.

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Speaker 4: Everyone understands he's a decent man. Joe Biden's gotten asked about,

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Speaker 4: you know, talking about line order. He's gotten asked if

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Speaker 4: he would pardon his son. He has said no.

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Speaker 1: You heard the President say he would accept the outcome

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Speaker 1: of the case. I know no other word for that,

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Speaker 6: The contrast to how Trump has behaved, how Trump has

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Speaker 1: This was a good day for the system. I just

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Speaker 1: look at this, boy, Can I ask you, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're really the dumb or were they

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Speaker 2: I think there are many people out there who see

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Speaker 2: their job on television not to tell you what they think,

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Speaker 2: I would tell all of you, and you sense it,

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Speaker 2: because these audiences are collapsing. You sense it. But there's

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Speaker 2: a difference between you may or may not agree with

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Speaker 2: everything that Buck or I say on this show on

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Speaker 2: a daily basis. In fact, it would be impossible for

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Speaker 2: talking points. And I think democrats uniquely left wing political commentators.

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Speaker 2: They go out and they say as if they are

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Speaker 2: And so Buck, I think they don't even really worry

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Speaker 2: And basically they're propagandist. And I don't have a problem

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Speaker 2: with this From a legal perspective. Your lawyer should go

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Speaker 1: Can for everything that you do.

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Speaker 2: Like Karine, Jean Pierre is a liar, but she's a

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Speaker 2: liar because she's being forced to try to cover for

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Speaker 2: one of the most daft and flagrantly dishonest men to

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Because Buck, they knew, according to NBC, of course they

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Speaker 2: did in June, that he was going to pardon Hunter

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Speaker 2: as soon as Hunter was convicted. Buck, it was self

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Speaker 2: evident that he was going to pardon. He was not

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Speaker 2: how much he believes in rule of law and justice,

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Speaker 2: you were either to your point.

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Speaker 1: And I do think it's a good question.

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Speaker 2: A complete and total moron, which I don't believe these

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Speaker 2: think that there's some really good things that come out

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Speaker 1: I saw you tweeted this, Clay. I you know, I

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Speaker 1: totally agree like Clay says it, Buck says, I think.

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Speaker 1: I think just conditional, I mean unconditional pardons for every

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Speaker 1: they've already had there, they've already been punished extensively, including

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Speaker 1: They've already been punished. So pardons they get out. That's it, unconditional,

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Speaker 1: full scale everybody get out. And by the way, a

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Speaker 1: the Cash Patel appointment, which is the people who are

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Speaker 1: So I think it gives Cash Patel, assuming he can

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think we need to dive into more of

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Speaker 2: these details too, buck on not only how much of

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Speaker 2: liars they were that this happened, but I will say

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Speaker 2: my jaw dropped a little bit when I saw how

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Speaker 2: expansive the pardon was.

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Speaker 1: It's ten years.

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Speaker 2: Of basically anything Hunter Biden did, going all the way

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Speaker 2: Let's play some of this audio because I do think

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Speaker 2: This was June sixth, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 6: Four, your son Hunter is on trial, and I know

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Speaker 6: let me ask you. Will you accept the jury's outcome.

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Speaker 6: They're verdict no matter what it is. Yes, And have

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Speaker 6: you ruled out a pardon for your son?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: That was from D Day, Buck, because remember the anniversary

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Speaker 5: I am satisfied that I'm not gonna do anything I said.

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Speaker 1: I will do that, and I will not partner him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just straight up on the record, June lies in

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows you're gonna do it unless you're really, really dumb.

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. We had mentioned this before, or the

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Speaker 1: yet we just assumed. Clay, I'm telling you, if you

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Speaker 1: in time two years. Hey, I think bart Biden's gonna

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Speaker 1: eventually pardon his son after their criminal charges. That was

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Speaker 1: at CNN, Harry Harry Enton, right, He's like, I'm so

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Speaker 1: this one, guys, it's absolutely ten cut. I'm sorry, Eli Honig,

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Speaker 4: This pardon will tarnish Joe Biden's legacy. I mean Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: Let's be clear here. He lied to us for a

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Speaker 4: He's absolutely gonna part it Hunter Biden. But as to

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Speaker 2: So I don't even so this is really I think

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Speaker 2: But the first conviction happened in June. Soon after that,

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Speaker 2: They still thought at that point that Biden was running.

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Speaker 1: And they would do anything to help him, including make

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Speaker 1: utter fools of themselves, which of course ties into the

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Speaker 1: pretense that Biden didn't have dementia and Joe Scarborough's he's

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Speaker 1: the sharpest he has ever been, all of it right,

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Speaker 1: So they were in full blown propaganda mode with no

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Speaker 1: hedging because to your point, they hadn't seen the collapse

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Speaker 1: happen on the air, you know, Clay, I think the

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Speaker 1: Eli Ellie Eli Honig guy actually said something that was

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Speaker 1: worthwhile in that little clip we played, which is the

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Speaker 1: Biden team and the Democrats are also the ones who

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Speaker 1: use all this high minded rhetoric around, like the glories

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Speaker 1: of our impartial justice system and Biden is beyond this

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Speaker 1: and we're the good guys. No, the Biden's are scum.

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Speaker 1: This is what this has been obvious all along and

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Speaker 1: all this stuff, you know, whether it's Homie or McCabe

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Speaker 1: or these people the FBI. This is why Cash Pattel

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Speaker 1: and we should get into this some more is such

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Speaker 1: a good pick. These people have done irreparable damage. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can start to fix it, but it will

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Speaker 1: take generations to the sense that we have a non

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Speaker 1: partisan DOJ and non part as an FBI.

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Speaker 2: That's completely true. And I do think going back in

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Speaker 2: time to that June commentary, they knew to your point, Buck,

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Speaker 2: they had two real arguments against Trump. One was abortion,

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Speaker 2: and you all know, basically Kamala ran maybe a billion

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Speaker 2: dollars in Trump's gonna drag your pregnant daughter or your

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Speaker 2: your your pregnant family member out by her hair, and

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a national pregnancy registry. And it just

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Speaker 2: didn't work because I think people have gotten used to

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Speaker 2: Roe v. Wade being overturned in individual states or making

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Speaker 2: their decisions. But that was one of their prongs. The

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Speaker 2: other was democracy, and Biden actually never was as hard

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Speaker 2: on abortion as he was on this side idea that

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Speaker 2: Trump was a direct threat to American democracy and.

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Speaker 1: Our rule of law.

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Speaker 2: And they knew even though most reasonable people out there Democrats, republicans'

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Speaker 2: independence would have understood that Biden was likely to pardon

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Speaker 2: his son, they knew they couldn't make the anti democratic

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Speaker 2: Trump argument if Biden said that he would.

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Speaker 1: Even consider pardoning his son. So it's important here.

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Speaker 2: They lied because it benefited them politically to lie, always

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Speaker 2: knowing that as soon as the election happened, either Biden

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Speaker 2: was going to win.

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Speaker 1: In their mind in June when he.

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Speaker 2: Said this, either Biden was going to win and he

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have to worry about it, you know, he could

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Speaker 2: pardon him going down the line and he's never going

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Speaker 2: to have to stand for election again. Or Biden was

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Speaker 2: going to lose and he was going to pardon him

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Speaker 2: and there would be no consequences for Biden politically, because

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Speaker 2: Biden's political career would be over. This was a calculated, dark,

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Speaker 2: dishonest decision. You and I could see through it. Most

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Speaker 2: of our audience could see through it. But to your point,

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Speaker 2: if you went out on the air and you praised

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Speaker 2: Biden for saying he wouldn't pardon his son, you are

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Speaker 2: a complete moron or a propagandist. There's no other option.

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Speaker 1: I think to my questioning before on that, I think,

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Speaker 1: depending on who, it's probably seventy thirty propagandists. I think

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Speaker 1: thirty percent of the people in the media are so

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Speaker 1: stupid that they will believe whatever their own team says.

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Speaker 6: That.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they actually, you know, they are the bleeding

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Speaker 1: sheep of animal farms, so to speak, like you know,

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Speaker 1: four legs good, two legs bad, Like they don't care,

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Speaker 1: They'll just go along with it. One other thing though,

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Speaker 1: that I saw this from you know, a supposed left

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Speaker 1: wing intellectual Ezracline on Twitter, and there are others who

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Speaker 1: are taking this argument too, which is that well, yeah

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Speaker 1: it's not great, but they really were persecuting Hunter. Persecuting Hunter.

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Speaker 1: This is had to Jesse Kelly for pointing this out

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Speaker 1: on Twitter the second time that the system has wiped

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Speaker 1: away obvious, repeated, and egregious crimes. Okay, go into a

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Speaker 1: federal prosecutor's office and say tax evasion, money laundering, never

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Speaker 1: mind the prostitution and legal gun charges is not serious.

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Speaker 1: Your your ass is gonna end up in prison, Hunter, Biden.

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Speaker 1: This is the second time noodle Baby Hunter has had

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Speaker 1: it wiped away for him Clay the idea that he

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Speaker 1: was being persecuted. It's the opposite. He's had a lifetime

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Speaker 1: get out of jail free card. Buck.

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Speaker 2: What about the I'll just use myself as an example here.

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Speaker 2: The IRS is all over me over my taxes. At

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Speaker 2: one point they demanded that I had underpaid my taxes

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Speaker 2: by thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents.

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Speaker 1: Many of you out there who are.

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Speaker 2: Listening to us right now have gotten IRS notices that

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Speaker 2: you're being audited for way less than millions of dollars

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Speaker 2: in underpaid taxes. What percentage of Americans have ever gotten

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Speaker 2: away with not paying millions of dollars in taxes?

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's even a little worse

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Speaker 1: than that Constra Clay because he got paid into LLCs

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Speaker 1: specifically as a tax of vis as an avoidance, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not like, Look sometimes you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're a general contractor and like you got paid by

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Speaker 1: somebody by check, you for got five hundred bucks. That

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Speaker 1: can happen, right, I mean, it happens to people all

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Speaker 1: the time. No harm, no foul, no big deal. He

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Speaker 1: set up shell companies to get paid by overseas interests

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Speaker 1: who were using his dad to buy influence in the

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Speaker 1: United States government and hid that money from the federal

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Speaker 1: government intentionally. This is money laundering, tax evasion, wire fraud,

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Speaker 1: all of it.

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Speaker 2: But he's They also wiped clean the first several years

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Speaker 2: of that because the statute of limitations aspired. Remember that's

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Speaker 2: what I mean about how this is the second this

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Speaker 2: is his second get out of jail free moment.

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Speaker 1: Which is astonishing.

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Speaker 2: If the judge, and again I give her credit, Mary

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Speaker 2: Ellen Norrieika in Delaware had not refused to sign off

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Speaker 2: on this sweetheart deal, then Joe Biden would have never

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Speaker 2: had to pardon his son.

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Speaker 1: That was the plan. Yeah, yeah, The.

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Speaker 2: Only reason this came up was because the sweetheart deal.

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Speaker 2: And this is important for everybody to remember that Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden got clarified him, cleared him from all charges for

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Speaker 2: anything related basically to his past behavior for perpetuity, and

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Speaker 2: the government got embarrassed when she started asking questions about that, like,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, this is not just an agreement on

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Speaker 2: these particular charges. This says there will never be any

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Speaker 2: charges brought for any of these other cases forever.

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Speaker 1: You know, what they gave him they gave Hunter the

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Speaker 1: Justse Smollette treatment. You are a favored person within the system,

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Speaker 1: a favored democrat within the system. So not only will

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Speaker 1: we choose to go easy on you, will prevent other

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Speaker 1: people from trying to other people within the system for

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Speaker 1: pursuing justice. We are giving you effectively unilateral immunity for

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Speaker 1: all of your acts because you are just like they

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Speaker 1: did with Jesse Smollette when Kim Fox, not only did

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Speaker 1: she decline to prosecute, she had it sealed right, so

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Speaker 1: she had the whole case sealt so no one can

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Speaker 1: even reopen or look at what happened. I mean the

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Speaker 1: thing with Hunter, Biden was meant to give him an

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Speaker 1: immunity deal for everything that he had ever done. And

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Speaker 1: these are the people who lecture you about Trump's guilt

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Speaker 1: on the business records case in New York, Yes, you know.

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Speaker 1: These are the people who tell you that Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: should be how owned by the state of New York

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Speaker 1: for saying that mar A Lago isn't worth fifteen million

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Speaker 1: dollars or whatever idiotic number they came up with. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Not bot can be taken seriously intellectually,

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Speaker 1: but they should be taken seriously as a threat to

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Speaker 1: the system and a threat to the Republic because they'll

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Speaker 2: I would also add this, and we can dive into

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Speaker 2: this sum as well. How about just presuming I hate

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Speaker 2: that we're here, but I presume that politicians are lying

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Speaker 2: One reason I think Trump people like is because he

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Speaker 1: What you got for us, John? So you guys are

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Speaker 1: talking about Hunter being cleared of anything from now on

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Speaker 1: perpetuity and any of any of his dealings. Would that

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Speaker 1: also include his family members that were included in partial

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Speaker 1: payments we talked about months ago not yet getting It's

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Speaker 1: a great question. This is why I said I send

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Speaker 1: because of the persecution of the Trump administration, which hasn't

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Speaker 1: even happened, They're going to start putting out pardons for

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Speaker 1: people to wipe away any criminal liability.

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Speaker 2: One question I would have Buck, is is Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: going to pardon himself? Because Trump is probably going to

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Speaker 2: pardon himself in some way when he comes into office.

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Speaker 2: I actually think, unfortunately the legacy of the law fair

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Speaker 2: that the Biden regime and Merrick Garland this Department of

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Speaker 2: Justice created is I would actually advise every president leaving office.

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Speaker 2: I know the presidential immunity rating or ruling is significant

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Speaker 2: from the Supreme Court, but if I were White House counsel,

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Speaker 2: I would advise every president to issue a pardon full

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Speaker 2: and fair of himself or herself when they are leaving

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Speaker 2: office to try to prevent being put in prison for

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Speaker 2: the rest of their lives. And again, what the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court has done, and a lot of people haven't really

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Speaker 2: understood it is deligate between official and unofficial acts, which

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Speaker 2: is actually the difference, as you and I have said,

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Speaker 2: between somebody like murdering someone, which would be an unofficial

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Speaker 2: act in theory.

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Speaker 1: Delineate in a very clay way. What was that? How'd

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Speaker 1: you say that? Delineated? Delineate? What did you delian it?

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Speaker 1: What did you just say?

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Speaker 2: I don't we can go back to the tape. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how I pounced like clay?

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Speaker 1: What was that? That is some Tennessee right there, Oh,

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Speaker 1: super southern accent. I don't know. We'll go back to

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Speaker 1: the tape. I don't even know how I sounded.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, Buck question for you as you

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Speaker 2: prepare to become a dad. You're not a dad yet.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of parents out there way in

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Speaker 2: as well. I put up the poll question, if you

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Speaker 2: were president of the United States, would you actually have

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Speaker 2: pardoned your own son. I think a lot of you

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Speaker 2: would say yes, we'll talk about it when we come

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Speaker 2: back