Speaker 1: You know this is funny. Ellen and I speak at
Speaker 1: least twice a week. So I said, so, what's new?
Speaker 1: What could be? No, we haven't gone out, and that
Speaker 1: has me anything. I did get up, I take a shower,
Speaker 1: I get dressed, I walked the dog every day to day.
Speaker 1: What's happening between us? Now, that's the most exciting thing
Speaker 1: in the whole pandemonium, whatever you call of this pandemic.
Speaker 1: I'm going to put a notice on the bulletin board
Speaker 1: in my lobby Rita. Bobby said to me, how can
Speaker 1: I see it? I said, you can't see it. You
Speaker 1: have to listen to it. That's right, That's right. So, Allen,
Speaker 1: who's coming on the podcast today? Well? I believe that
Speaker 1: it is me, Me and our grandson Aaron, And from
Speaker 1: what I understand, they have a tremendous relationship and she
Speaker 1: has got a very colorful life and a very colorful
Speaker 1: way of describing it. So we're in for a very
Speaker 1: interesting set today. Hard do you want to talk to
Speaker 1: them and say, Hi? Do you want to sing? Change? Change? Chane?
Speaker 1: No sing a song? I'm no woo woo woo. He's
Speaker 1: an African gray. The other ones a parrot, mca are
Speaker 1: you there? Yeah, we're here. Could my hair be any higher? Okay?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna ask me hard questions? You'll find out. Hi.
Speaker 1: I'm Aaron and this is my grandma Emi. She lives
Speaker 1: probably half an hour away from me in somers New York.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give up your age. I'm still alive.
Speaker 1: He's the Messiah. He can do no wrong, and he's
Speaker 1: never done anything wrong. My first grandchild, who I said,
Speaker 1: after spending time with him, if I had known grandchildren
Speaker 1: with this delicious, I would have bypassed my kids altogether.
Speaker 1: It makes it a little hard for some of the
Speaker 1: others to live up to his standard. He has two
Speaker 1: younger cousins of both boys, both good ball players. They
Speaker 1: have a role model to look up to. I think
Speaker 1: it may have been Christmas and you gave everyone like
Speaker 1: twenty dollars and then you snuck me the same amount again,
Speaker 1: and you like put it in my hand and you're like,
Speaker 1: just just hold onto this. Don't tell anyone else, though
Speaker 1: I said to you, shut up and don't say anything.
Speaker 1: I just said it the nicer way. But he's nicer
Speaker 1: than I am. He's more thoughtful than I am, and
Speaker 1: more tactful than I am. Whatever she's thinking about is
Speaker 1: coming out. She's not gonna hold anything back. If I
Speaker 1: have to guess, when I get a little bit older
Speaker 1: and I get less shy, I'm sure I'll be in
Speaker 1: the same exact spot and just kind of call people
Speaker 1: out for whatever is going on. I hope so. And
Speaker 1: I'll be looking I'm watching you, guiding you the whole way. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm reading these pet titles for Mimmy and end this
Speaker 1: episode and part one says unfiltered baseball advice. What could
Speaker 1: that be? We text each other all the time. After
Speaker 1: my games, she would text me and she would just
Speaker 1: kind of fire me up and throwing a few curse
Speaker 1: words in there and make me feel better about myself
Speaker 1: and then say I love you at the end, some
Speaker 1: motivational stuff for sure. Do you remember Sean fo Piano? Grandma?
Speaker 1: You would always ask about you. He always how's Mimi?
Speaker 1: How's Mimi? And he would always when we were big
Speaker 1: into Facebook, he would always see your posts and be
Speaker 1: asking about you. Any time I'd say Grandma, he would
Speaker 1: be like, oh, Mimi, are you talking about me? I
Speaker 1: think you may have sent a friend request to my friend.
Speaker 1: I sent a friend request to one of your friends.
Speaker 1: That's not what happened. I know, I know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. No, he read the post that you were
Speaker 1: and I sent to each other, and he sent me
Speaker 1: a friend request. Oh was it? Okay? I believe you.
Speaker 1: I believe you. And that was when they first started
Speaker 1: to check me out as a pedophile. Don't believe everything
Speaker 1: I say. They would all come over and talk to me,
Speaker 1: and then you know, they'd say, hi, Grandma, how did
Speaker 1: I do today? How do I look today? And you know,
Speaker 1: it was funny how the parents would say to me.
Speaker 1: You know, my son really likes coming over and talking
Speaker 1: to you. I'm very comfortable, you know, with kids in sports,
Speaker 1: and I'm a big promoter of kids. I think my
Speaker 1: friends and especially kids my age, would expect grandparents to
Speaker 1: be more like polite and just like very formal about everything,
Speaker 1: and I'd say, you're definitely a little far from that.
Speaker 1: So I think that can get her into trouble, even
Speaker 1: in our own family. Her whole life, she hasn't filtered herself,
Speaker 1: even when me and the other grandchildren were really young.
Speaker 1: I treat all of you like grown ups. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: sometimes they're shocked and I said, I did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job raising all of you, didn't I why should
Speaker 1: they miss out on me? I think it's a lot
Speaker 1: more impactful than if you're just like sugarcoat and how
Speaker 1: you say everything. Maybe sometimes I crossed the line, but already,
Speaker 1: thank god. You think I've crossed the line a few times, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have, and I admit it. I definitely agree with it.
Speaker 1: A lot of people in our family are very, very
Speaker 1: very nice, and like, we'll never say anything bad about anyone,
Speaker 1: and you kind of need someone to like say it.
Speaker 1: How it is, if someone's doing something wrong, you gotta
Speaker 1: say they're doing something wrong. It's a very sweet relationship.
Speaker 1: They seem like good buddies. She's crazy about him that
Speaker 1: you could see, and he's gonna get kicked out of her,
Speaker 1: which is nice. Sometimes with a grandson, it's a little harder,
Speaker 1: because I think that that where you have more in
Speaker 1: common with our granddaughters, they'll come to you about clothes
Speaker 1: or boyfriends or something like that, and boys don't necessarily
Speaker 1: do that. But it seems that this young man and
Speaker 1: his grandmother have a lot in comment, and the fact
Speaker 1: that that his friends gravitate toward her is lovely. And
Speaker 1: it's lovely for him. She's outrageous, Let's let's face it,
Speaker 1: she's a little the grandmother is a little bit outrageous
Speaker 1: in her language and her but that's okay, that's who.
Speaker 1: But he seems to enjoy it too. But that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He appreciates it, and that his friends get
Speaker 1: a kick out of it is sort of a reflection
Speaker 1: on him. You know, your grandmother is a cool cat,
Speaker 1: so that's that's a good thing for him, Oh reader,
Speaker 1: a cool cat? Yeah? Well yeah, how do you like that?
Speaker 1: That's phrase that dates us. Boy. Well, now we're into
Speaker 1: part two and this is about freedom. The first thing
Speaker 1: that comes to mind, of course, is hippies freedom. I'm
Speaker 1: taking off my bro Ellen. Just don't do it, though,
Speaker 1: forget it. If you and I take off my bras,
Speaker 1: forget it. I'm very careful about what hits my feet lately.
Speaker 1: Is there anything from your childhood that you'd say you miss? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Being young? You want to know what I really miss?
Speaker 1: The freedom, the freedom we have that you don't have now,
Speaker 1: to be able to go out and explore and walk
Speaker 1: in the streets and be with your friends and not
Speaker 1: have to look over your shoulder that I'm hobbs, You're
Speaker 1: gonna come to you. We all grew up in the Bronx,
Speaker 1: in this little neighborhood where everybody knew each other, every
Speaker 1: mother watched out for each other. Parents didn't worry. When
Speaker 1: I went to high school in Manhattan, we would go
Speaker 1: to parties and walk at twelve o'clock at night from
Speaker 1: one side of Manhattan to the other. Nobody was going
Speaker 1: to stop you in the park. You didn't have to
Speaker 1: be afraid of anything. There was nothing to be afraid of.
Speaker 1: From what I've heard, it definitely seems like things have changed.
Speaker 1: I always knew to stay at a central park when
Speaker 1: the sun went down. Absolutely, yeah, at different times. Did
Speaker 1: your parents influence your personality at all? They made me
Speaker 1: the rebel bitch I am now, Yeah, yeah they did.
Speaker 1: Oh God, how much am I going to go into
Speaker 1: I had parents that suffocated me. That generation was much
Speaker 1: more controlling, and so I would get more of a
Speaker 1: reaction out of them if I was a rebel. If
Speaker 1: I had to raise a kid like me, I'd kill myself.
Speaker 1: But they should have been more aware of what I
Speaker 1: was like and why I was doing it. So while
Speaker 1: I'm copping out. I'm kind of blaming them, but some
Speaker 1: of the actions that I had, and that's what I
Speaker 1: want to say, fair enough, I was much closer to
Speaker 1: my grandparents than I was to my parents. I could
Speaker 1: go to my grandparents and talk to them. I don't
Speaker 1: think I really had to rebel because I was very
Speaker 1: I still am very close my parents. I basically told
Speaker 1: them anything I was doing, and we would just talk
Speaker 1: everything through having children of my own and realizing the
Speaker 1: things that I wanted to do with them, and finally
Speaker 1: having the balls to say, back off, these are my kids.
Speaker 1: You had your chance, Now give me that same chance.
Speaker 1: I'd said. My parents definitely have that same philosophy, free thinking,
Speaker 1: and you have your own opinions, and they're not gonna
Speaker 1: interject unless there's something like drastically important. Even in those situations,
Speaker 1: they were just talk us through all the options instead
Speaker 1: of just telling us what to do. It definitely helps.
Speaker 1: I think if that's the case, then I've done my
Speaker 1: job too, for sure. It was very interesting to him
Speaker 1: Mimi the explanation of her her rebel nuts and her
Speaker 1: grandson fully understands how he understands his parents. They're very
Speaker 1: free and letting him do his own thing, make his
Speaker 1: own choices, and that's what Mimmi wanted. And she said
Speaker 1: now she feels they decayed for her actions. And this
Speaker 1: went on very in tune with her. I think that
Speaker 1: there's a freedom in that relationship. There's such a sympathic
Speaker 1: o there. Well, today, you know that the thinking is
Speaker 1: let the kids be what they have, you know, what
Speaker 1: they wanted, which is the right way to be today
Speaker 1: you have to be accepting. Yes, absolutely, it's not as
Speaker 1: easy as when we were young. I think the kids
Speaker 1: today come out into a world that's very stressful. Generally speaking,
Speaker 1: I agree totally. It's a very stressful world for these kids.
Speaker 1: I mean I remember going into the city on the
Speaker 1: subway late at night, meeting friends. Nobody thought of what's
Speaker 1: going on today. I used to take my sister once
Speaker 1: a week to the orthodontist to have her bike place
Speaker 1: or whatever it was Titan, you know, we'd go down
Speaker 1: the subway and we'd walk around downtown Brooklyn. I could
Speaker 1: not have been more than twelve or thirteen years old,
Speaker 1: and my sister is five years younger than I am.
Speaker 1: And you didn't rebel. I didn't rebel. If you did,
Speaker 1: you kept it in. I was sort of rebellious. Okay, Ellen,
Speaker 1: you know it's time for commercial break. Okay, everybody go
Speaker 1: to the kitchen and graba soda at a sandwich. The
Speaker 1: next one is part three, Mimi comes into her own.
Speaker 1: So did anyone encourage you to have a career when
Speaker 1: you were young? But you have to understand, when I
Speaker 1: grew up, there weren't very many Jewish young girls who
Speaker 1: had careers. No nobody encouraged me to do anything. Truthfully,
Speaker 1: it wasn't until I grew up a little bit and
Speaker 1: I wanted to make more of myself than I was
Speaker 1: that I had the confidence that my children gave me
Speaker 1: and my husband gave me that enabled me to have
Speaker 1: different careers. How did you and Grandpa meet? We all
Speaker 1: grew up in the same neighborhood, and he was in
Speaker 1: the older group of boys, and they hung out at
Speaker 1: the pool room, and in those days, pool rooms were acceptable,
Speaker 1: and I was friendly with his sister. I guess I
Speaker 1: was fortunate, you know, a fift team, and he took
Speaker 1: me along they were going to Fire Island, and then
Speaker 1: I didn't see him because I went off to school
Speaker 1: and everything, so I didn't see him for a few
Speaker 1: years and then we all belonged to the Speech club
Speaker 1: and I asked him if he would give me a
Speaker 1: ride up to the club. And I'll never forget, he
Speaker 1: said to me. And I'll be in the bar. If
Speaker 1: you don't get lucky, come and get me and I'll
Speaker 1: drive you home. And I had to come and ask
Speaker 1: him to drive me home because I didn't get lucky.
Speaker 1: And we started going out and then we got there
Speaker 1: and that was it. What was he like? I haven't
Speaker 1: really gotten a whole ton of details. Very handsome, very
Speaker 1: good ballplayer, very good business man. I remember hearing that
Speaker 1: he had to work out with the Dodgers once. He
Speaker 1: was invited to sprint training for one year, which I
Speaker 1: thought was really cool. I think it would have been
Speaker 1: really cool for him to watch me play. I wish
Speaker 1: I could have learned from him too. He would have
Speaker 1: been so goddamn proud of you. Okay, asked me another question.
Speaker 1: I'll come back to it because I'm Dr Grig. What
Speaker 1: was it like having so many kids? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I loved it. I really did. I don't think i'd
Speaker 1: be able to. And I have no idea how you
Speaker 1: did it. And I give you so much respect for it.
Speaker 1: So how did the two of you approach parenting together?
Speaker 1: You know, we both came from upper middle class Jewish
Speaker 1: families and it was a different time. We both had
Speaker 1: our parents to pull back on. I think Artie was
Speaker 1: more stripped and more structured than I was, and I
Speaker 1: think the two of us balanced each other, so it
Speaker 1: was good. Sometimes we talked about it and nice say
Speaker 1: I was really the strict one. They said, are you
Speaker 1: out of your mind? You laughed at everything we did.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me what happened that day that grandpa died.
Speaker 1: We were we were in Israel, the whole family was there.
Speaker 1: We were on a boat and he went into the water.
Speaker 1: He swung off the rope and he came back up
Speaker 1: this rope thing and he said, I don't feel good.
Speaker 1: I said, go lie down, and he had a heart
Speaker 1: attack and died. I just wish I could have met him. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's pretty upsetting because I know how highly my dad
Speaker 1: and my uncle and aunts talked about him, and obviously you.
Speaker 1: I just wish I could have experienced what you guys
Speaker 1: did when it first happened. I think it was such
Speaker 1: a shock that I really didn't notice in transition. And
Speaker 1: it was about three months after all he died and
Speaker 1: I was on the couch and I said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I have to get up and make dinner. And then
Speaker 1: I realized, no, I don't have to make dinner, and
Speaker 1: there's nobody here to make dinner for. And that's where
Speaker 1: it hit me that I was on my own and
Speaker 1: there was nobody going to be in this big pass
Speaker 1: except me. And that's when I decided that I had
Speaker 1: to do more with my life. They just sit around
Speaker 1: and be a widow. And then I met Jim, and
Speaker 1: I decided it was time to stop being a widow
Speaker 1: and to change my life. And I moved away from
Speaker 1: Neuroshelle and we bought a huge home in Pennsylvania. And
Speaker 1: he was much much younger than I, but of course
Speaker 1: I was much younger and much thinner too, And so
Speaker 1: I was with him for six years and then I
Speaker 1: came back. I thought it was really cool where you lived.
Speaker 1: I loved going there and seeing all the dogs and
Speaker 1: the horses and the river and everything. He was a
Speaker 1: really nice guy. And there have been people who have
Speaker 1: asked me out for dinner. I would no more go
Speaker 1: out for dinner with anybody or have anything to do
Speaker 1: with another man. As long as I live, I've had
Speaker 1: my fill. I've been wined and dined by the best.
Speaker 1: I don't have to do it anymore. I hear a
Speaker 1: tremendous strength in this woman. Absolutely, she knows what she wants,
Speaker 1: and she she does what she wants, and she doesn't
Speaker 1: feel sorry for herself. She just moves right along. And
Speaker 1: you know, I, thankfully have still got my husband. He's
Speaker 1: not well, but but he's here. He goes three days
Speaker 1: a week for dialysis and drives himself. But I I
Speaker 1: have this fear in my heart all the time, what
Speaker 1: if something happens to him and all? But I know
Speaker 1: that I'll be okay. You'll be okay. You're a strong lady,
Speaker 1: because I'm tough, and because I have a wonderful family.
Speaker 1: I have a very supportive family, and obviously she does too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that she feels that love and that support
Speaker 1: from her family, and I think that that's one of
Speaker 1: the ways that she's able to to move on. Look,
Speaker 1: you know what we all have to learn. Life hands
Speaker 1: you a deck of cards, and what you pick up
Speaker 1: it's how you play it. All right, I'm now reading
Speaker 1: What's coming up next Part four, Maybe gets lucky. H
Speaker 1: Do you have any unusual hobbies that I don't know about.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. What's a hobby? You used to
Speaker 1: pool around with young guys? Was that a hobby? I
Speaker 1: like gambling, that's a hobby. I didn't know that side
Speaker 1: you play? I played and craps. And you heard the
Speaker 1: story when Jamie and I went to that big hotel
Speaker 1: in the Bahamas. At any rate, we went down there
Speaker 1: and it started to rain at the pool, so I said,
Speaker 1: I put on my little schmata and I went inside
Speaker 1: to the casino and took a hundred dollar bill with me.
Speaker 1: I put the hundred dollar bill in the slot machine
Speaker 1: and the bells went off. It was crazy. So I
Speaker 1: said to this woman, how much shod I win? And
Speaker 1: she said, I said, are you out of your mind?
Speaker 1: How much did I win? She said two dollars. I
Speaker 1: had smoked in years. I said to her, I'd like
Speaker 1: a Scotch on the rocks and could have one of
Speaker 1: those cigarous plates. And I sat right up smoking, and
Speaker 1: I went over and I called Jamie there. I was
Speaker 1: so nonchalant, and the minute I saw that, I started
Speaker 1: jumping up and down like a lunatic. That was excited.
Speaker 1: Then while we were waiting, there was a machine right
Speaker 1: next to it. I put a ten dollar billing and
Speaker 1: I wont undred hundred dollars. I sent to Barbara and Jamie,
Speaker 1: here you take this, this is yours. That was the
Speaker 1: last time I hit like that. I gotta go to
Speaker 1: the casino with you. We had a friend who used
Speaker 1: to go regularly to Atlantic City and he got camped
Speaker 1: downe everything. So one of a few times they would
Speaker 1: invite us we play a little. I used to play
Speaker 1: a little twenty one. But you know what, you never win.
Speaker 1: If you play long enough, you never win. I went
Speaker 1: through ang face and growing up in Brooklyn it wasn't
Speaker 1: mar Young it was. And when I lived in Showy
Speaker 1: Hill it was a whole brand new community. And one
Speaker 1: day a girl knocked at my door and she said
Speaker 1: to me, do you play Majong? I said, I know
Speaker 1: how to play. She says, a group of the girls
Speaker 1: are getting together and would like you to come. So
Speaker 1: we go to her house. We go, we play mang
Speaker 1: and after one hand, she says, anybody want to smoke?
Speaker 1: And she takes out a box and it's loaded with
Speaker 1: pot I had never had that in my life, but
Speaker 1: everybody else was doing it, so I did it too.
Speaker 1: Every Wednesday night we went to the house, we played
Speaker 1: one hand to ban and got stoned out of our
Speaker 1: mind that I would I would come home. I would
Speaker 1: eat anything that wasn't nailed down and go to sleep.
Speaker 1: My husband never knew. Never. They don't know if anything
Speaker 1: in fun in them? What are you talking about? You
Speaker 1: could have an orgasm in front of them. They would
Speaker 1: never know what I mean, you know, mend them on
Speaker 1: another planet. How can I tell you? Okay? Later, time
Speaker 1: to go to commercial. Okay, somebody has to pay the bills.
Speaker 1: Part five. Judge Me, Me Me. My daughter Jamie was
Speaker 1: an excellent gymnasism. Matter of fact, my daughter has the
Speaker 1: biggest gymnastics school in the East. It's called Galaxy Gymnastics.
Speaker 1: I actually had more than one birthday party at Galaxy.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun there. So I would take
Speaker 1: her to gymnastics every single day, and then I would
Speaker 1: sit on the floor and one day I said to
Speaker 1: her coach, what would happen if you put this move
Speaker 1: with that move? And she said, damn, you've been watching
Speaker 1: gymnastics way too long. There's a course being given just
Speaker 1: for high school gymnastics. Why don't you just take it?
Speaker 1: So I took that course, and then I took another course,
Speaker 1: and then I took another test and another test, and
Speaker 1: that started in nineteen four and I have been judging now.
Speaker 1: I'm just doing high school. Of course, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to travel or anything like that. I wish I could
Speaker 1: be able to see you do that. It would have
Speaker 1: been really cool. But I'll tell you how interesting it is.
Speaker 1: I was judging this girl on the floor and these
Speaker 1: two women came over to me and they said to me,
Speaker 1: Mrs Winkler, and I said yes. They said, you judged me.
Speaker 1: The mother said you judged me, and then the granddaughter
Speaker 1: said you judged me. So that was three generations of
Speaker 1: my judging them. And all the traveling you did to
Speaker 1: judge gymnastics led to another big change in your life.
Speaker 1: Right judging a meat in Germany and seeing this little
Speaker 1: white dog. I've always loved dogs, and I asked her
Speaker 1: what kind of dog is that and they said, up
Speaker 1: be Shaan Fries And I said, God, I think I
Speaker 1: like that dog. And we always had old English sheep dogs,
Speaker 1: so they were big. I came home I went to
Speaker 1: a dog show and I stopped a breeder and I
Speaker 1: asked her about her dog. She said, I will sell
Speaker 1: you this one that you seem to be in love with,
Speaker 1: but she's a show girl, and will you show her
Speaker 1: and always haven't been competitive? I said absolutely, And then
Speaker 1: she said and then you'd have to have a litter
Speaker 1: and I get a puppy back, and she explained what
Speaker 1: all that meant to me, and I kind of like
Speaker 1: the idea. Then here I am thirty three years later,
Speaker 1: with having n champions, top dogs all over the world,
Speaker 1: a winner at Westminster Kendle Club, and judging in Japan
Speaker 1: and China. That's a major accomplishment that I've done all
Speaker 1: on my own. I'm proud of myself and doing all that.
Speaker 1: I think that she's so open to what life brings
Speaker 1: her and she grabs it, she takes it, and she
Speaker 1: runs with it. I think that that's a tremendous way
Speaker 1: to be. It's amazing how she becomes judges so easily
Speaker 1: and felt quickly. She she's got a very modern way
Speaker 1: of thinking. She really filled her life beautifully and she's
Speaker 1: a terrific example for our grandchildren. I love that she's
Speaker 1: a dog person, because having dogs opened a big door
Speaker 1: in my life. When I first got into using a
Speaker 1: computer and I found this whole group of women who
Speaker 1: had cavaliers. Your friends, my doggie friends. You know, to me,
Speaker 1: the fact that this woman had dogs, I immediately love her.
Speaker 1: I know you have the most adorable dog. Reader, I
Speaker 1: love your dog. Oh, thank you. Okay, read to get ready.
Speaker 1: This is it the end Grandma's philosophies something which we
Speaker 1: all seem to have. There's really no feeling like the
Speaker 1: joy that I get from my grandchildren. And I mean
Speaker 1: that sincerely. I'm gonna start to cry, so I can't
Speaker 1: do this. But when I see him, and I'm watching
Speaker 1: Aaron Pitch, and I'm watching him with his friends and
Speaker 1: watching how he relates, and what a wonderful man he's
Speaker 1: turning into, There's nothing that gives me more joy in
Speaker 1: this world. Okay, so now my COEs are running. How
Speaker 1: do you think your life has changed since becoming a grandmother.
Speaker 1: It's changed for the better. Everything is for the better.
Speaker 1: It's a legacy. When I look back and and I
Speaker 1: doubt myself and think that I could have done things better.
Speaker 1: When I see what my grandchildren are with the help
Speaker 1: of the children that I raised. There's nothing better in
Speaker 1: this world. Everybody has to screw up at times, but
Speaker 1: that's part of living. I think that's the only way
Speaker 1: to learn. You mess up, and then you learn you
Speaker 1: don't do it again, and that's how you grow as
Speaker 1: a person. So I totally agree with that, Steamon. The
Speaker 1: thing is that when you're doing it with your children,
Speaker 1: you have to do it in a constructive way because
Speaker 1: you're guiding their lives. When you're doing it with your grandchildren,
Speaker 1: it's a much freer way of thinking. As a grandparent,
Speaker 1: I've gained knowledge and wisdom that your parents haven't experienced yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think my guiding you comes from that place
Speaker 1: because I've seen so much more. I never really thought
Speaker 1: of it like that. That's that's pretty awesome. And the
Speaker 1: only thing you can really do is just have conversations
Speaker 1: with them and tell them about your experiences. And I
Speaker 1: think it's a really good way to teach your grandchildren.
Speaker 1: Definitely work for me. I just want all of you
Speaker 1: to reach your potential. You know, I've always said that
Speaker 1: the definition of a true man or a true woman
Speaker 1: is somebody who can stand on their own two feet
Speaker 1: without stepping on anybody's toes. Putting somebody else down, does
Speaker 1: that make you smarter, It's sinking to their level. That's
Speaker 1: what I hope to instill. And I want your all
Speaker 1: to be happy. I want you to see the bright
Speaker 1: side of everything and be and be able to cope
Speaker 1: because about no I've had to do that. Well, what
Speaker 1: I've noticed what you do is, no matter what's going
Speaker 1: on with you, whenever you see me and the rest
Speaker 1: of the grandchildren, you're smiling and you're happy to see us,
Speaker 1: and you just leave that stuff at the door. That's
Speaker 1: what I think I need to do, like whether whether
Speaker 1: I'm with my friends or my family or teammates, whoever
Speaker 1: it is, and just focus on the moment as much
Speaker 1: as I can, no matter what's going on. And that's
Speaker 1: definitely something that you do. So would you say that
Speaker 1: overall you've enjoyed your life, Yeah, of course I have have.
Speaker 1: I had ups and downs, just like everybody else. What
Speaker 1: you put into making relationships with other people, you hope
Speaker 1: you get back. My philosophy has already been the glass
Speaker 1: is not half full or half empty. If you don't
Speaker 1: like that glass, go get a new one. You just
Speaker 1: have to make the best of what of the cards
Speaker 1: that you're dealt well. I certainly agree with her that
Speaker 1: grandchildren are a bonus. I think that when you're bringing
Speaker 1: up your own children, you're so involved in doing the
Speaker 1: right thing and putting them on the right path that
Speaker 1: you're not into the joy and the fun of the
Speaker 1: extraneous things. Actually, when you think about it, that is
Speaker 1: our legacy, our grandchildren. Not each one has everything. They're
Speaker 1: all not perfect, they're all not brilliant, they're all not talented.
Speaker 1: But I love them and I take each one from
Speaker 1: what they are. But they all bring something to the table,
Speaker 1: every one of them. They have basic good traits, and
Speaker 1: they have good character, and they're honest, hard working people
Speaker 1: that will all turn out all of a sudden. Every
Speaker 1: stop it it's a big bird. But that's He'll stop
Speaker 1: in one second. You know who you look like? What's
Speaker 1: what's that soccer player from England? Um, the one that
Speaker 1: has the great ass um married to one the Spice girls.
Speaker 1: For one second, that's what you look like. I'll take that.
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