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Speaker 1: who's coming on the podcast today? Well? I believe that

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Speaker 1: interesting set today. Hard do you want to talk to

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Speaker 1: them and say, Hi? Do you want to sing? Change? Change? Chane?

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Speaker 1: you there? Yeah, we're here. Could my hair be any higher? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna ask me hard questions? You'll find out. Hi.

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Speaker 1: I'm Aaron and this is my grandma Emi. She lives

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Speaker 1: probably half an hour away from me in somers New York.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give up your age. I'm still alive.

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Speaker 1: He's the Messiah. He can do no wrong, and he's

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Speaker 1: So did anyone encourage you to have a career when

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Speaker 1: thing is that when you're doing it with your children,

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Speaker 1: it's a much freer way of thinking. As a grandparent,

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Speaker 1: I've gained knowledge and wisdom that your parents haven't experienced yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think my guiding you comes from that place

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Speaker 1: because I've seen so much more. I never really thought

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Speaker 1: of it like that. That's that's pretty awesome. And the

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Speaker 1: only thing you can really do is just have conversations

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Speaker 1: with them and tell them about your experiences. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's a really good way to teach your grandchildren.

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Speaker 1: Definitely work for me. I just want all of you

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Speaker 1: to reach your potential. You know, I've always said that

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Speaker 1: the definition of a true man or a true woman

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Speaker 1: is somebody who can stand on their own two feet

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Speaker 1: without stepping on anybody's toes. Putting somebody else down, does

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Speaker 1: that make you smarter, It's sinking to their level. That's

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Speaker 1: what I hope to instill. And I want your all

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Speaker 1: to be happy. I want you to see the bright

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Speaker 1: side of everything and be and be able to cope

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Speaker 1: because about no I've had to do that. Well, what

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Speaker 1: I've noticed what you do is, no matter what's going

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Speaker 1: of the grandchildren, you're smiling and you're happy to see us,

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Speaker 1: and you just leave that stuff at the door. That's

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Speaker 1: what I think I need to do, like whether whether

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Speaker 1: I'm with my friends or my family or teammates, whoever

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Speaker 1: it is, and just focus on the moment as much

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Speaker 1: as I can, no matter what's going on. And that's

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Speaker 1: definitely something that you do. So would you say that

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Speaker 1: overall you've enjoyed your life, Yeah, of course I have have.

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Speaker 1: I had ups and downs, just like everybody else. What

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Speaker 1: you put into making relationships with other people, you hope

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Speaker 1: you get back. My philosophy has already been the glass

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Speaker 1: like that glass, go get a new one. You just

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Speaker 1: have to make the best of what of the cards

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Speaker 1: that you're dealt well. I certainly agree with her that

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Speaker 1: grandchildren are a bonus. I think that when you're bringing

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Speaker 1: right thing and putting them on the right path that

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Speaker 1: you're not into the joy and the fun of the

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Speaker 1: extraneous things. Actually, when you think about it, that is

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Speaker 1: our legacy, our grandchildren. Not each one has everything. They're

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Speaker 1: all not perfect, they're all not brilliant, they're all not talented.

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Speaker 1: But I love them and I take each one from

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Speaker 1: what they are. But they all bring something to the table,

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Speaker 1: every one of them. They have basic good traits, and

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Speaker 1: they have good character, and they're honest, hard working people

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Speaker 1: that will all turn out all of a sudden. Every

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Speaker 1: stop it it's a big bird. But that's He'll stop

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Speaker 1: in one second. You know who you look like? What's

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Speaker 1: what's that soccer player from England? Um, the one that

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Speaker 1: has the great ass um married to one the Spice girls.

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Speaker 1: For one second, that's what you look like. I'll take that.

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