1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Do human beings have a limited amount of empathy? It's 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: one more thing, I'm strong and getty, one more thing 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: three two one. Yeah, I don't know how well you 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: could hear that? Three two one see you The last 5 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: words of a British daredevil as he attempted to base 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: jump off a twenty nine story building in Thailand. His 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: shoote did not open, he went splat on the cement 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: and he is no more. So my question was, and 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: I think this is an interesting one, do human beings 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: have a limited amount of empathy? Individual human beings? Because 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: when I I hear a story like that, I have 12 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: no feeling whatsoever, like of sadness or you're dead, because 13 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I've only got so much empathy and 14 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna save it for those soldiers that died sleeping 15 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: in their barracks and Jordan the other day, and their families, 16 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: and you know a million other examples you come across 17 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: every single day in the news or maybe even your 18 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: own personal life. But somebody who decides to be a daredevil, 19 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: and the whole point of being a daredevil is sometimes 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't work. Otherwise you're not a dared devil yours, 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean It's as similar to sitting in an office 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: chair every day. I mean, if there's no risk, there's 23 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: no excitement to it, and if now and then it 24 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: doesn't go right, I just I feel nothing for that person. 25 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: So it's it. 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: There's death defying stunt and death said you know today 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: I went or would you say? Look, there's no limit 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: on empathy. You can be empathetic toward the you know, 29 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: the parents of the child who was abducted, or those 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: people who died in Jordan, and this guy who got 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: squashed because he has people who love him also, Which 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: is it, Katie? 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: Why are you putting me on the spot to make 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: you uncomfortable? Very good? I think, I don't know. Well, 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: what do you do when the guy died? Well, no 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: part of me's with you. 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well, if he hadn't to jumped off 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: the building, you wouldn't be dead, correct, right, So obviously 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: my heart goes out more to those people where it's 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: an uncontrollable situation. But then again, of course I think 41 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: about this guy's family too, and I kind of you 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: know that sucks. 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, I don't. 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of empathy for him. I 45 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: don't have antipathy though, I'm not like to the guy 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: and thinking. 47 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Yes what you get? No, no, no, I don't have 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: that at all. I just got nothing. I have no 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: feeling whatsoever for it. Huh. Sometimes it doesn't work. Didn't 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: work this time. He struck a bargain he was comfortable with. 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: He had a life I'll bet he enjoyed very much, 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 2: and an all an ever present possibility came true. 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Fair deal. Yeah. 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: I think it's a big scale of people's emotions too, 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 3: because I mean there'll be so many times where I'll see. 56 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: A video and somebody will be like, oh, I'm crying. 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: Why is there? 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: We go? 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: My phone won't silence, so there we go, Sorry about that. 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Or somebody will be like. 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm watching this and I'm crying, and I'm going, 62 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: why why are you? What is what about this is 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: making you cry? It'll be some heart touching thing. 64 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think it's a different range 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: and emotion for people. Hmmm. Somebody might be that in 66 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: maybe you're dead inside, just like Jack. 67 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 68 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Well, more likely I was trying to figure out if 69 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm a bad person. But as Joe always says, there 70 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: are plenty of examples of why you're a bad person. 71 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: You don't need to look to this one again. We 72 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: could hold another staff vote if you'd like, but I'd 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: like to be in on that vote. Another staff vote. 74 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Everyone say, I I an. 75 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: No, I. 76 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: I admire a guy like that on one level, but no, 77 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretend to be heartbroken. He lived 78 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: an exciting, wild, short short as it turns out, was 79 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: he married? 80 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't say I doubt it. He was like in 81 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: his I think he's twenty nine or something. 82 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that would be that's I 83 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: dated a daredevil who used to love to do things 84 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: that would end up in injury, and it was the 85 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: most frustrating relationship I've ever been in. 86 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll bet I don't know so anyway, So you've 87 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: got that, do you feel anything for that? And then 88 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: this one came across this yesterday, and I'll just tell 89 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: you that our friend Tim sand Online responded to this 90 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: with I guess I must be dead inside. Then oh, 91 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: a phrase that several of us have already used about 92 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: this story. Here's what it was. Somebody tweeted out the 93 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: picture of Travis Kelcey kissing Taylor Swift when they met 94 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: on the football field after the game and he said, hey, sweetie, 95 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: and she walks up and kisses him, and I thought 96 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: it was cute. But anyway, here is the tweet. I 97 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: love this photo because it invokes primal reactions in people. 98 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: They are the couple everyone wishes they were in high school. 99 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: They represent the summon of popularity and success. Those who 100 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: fall short this ideal cannot help but feel the sting 101 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: of envy mirror into your soul. And Tim said, I 102 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: must feel dead inside then, because I feel nothing about this. 103 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: I thought it was cute. I thought, oh, two young 104 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: people in love. We should leave him alone when I 105 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: saw it. 106 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, I'm trying to process that. Okay, So 107 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: in Syria, I reacted badly to it because I'm jealous 108 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: of them from my high school inadequacy and my phone. 109 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: No, no, he's saying, you like it because they portray 110 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: what you wanted you wanted to be. See. I don't 111 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: know if I buy this or not, although I think 112 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: you're lying if you didn't, If you if you say 113 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the high school football star 114 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: or homecoming queen or in love or popular? Really, I mean, 115 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I was not envious of 116 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: those people, Like I didn't walk around envious, But I'd 117 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: be lying, wouldn't if I said, I really don't want 118 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: to be that now, I legitimately wanted nothing to do 119 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: with that in high school. I did not hear that 120 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: I did too, but I think it was it was 121 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: some sort of protection mechanism for my psyche or something. 122 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: It seems weird to like, you don't want to be 123 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: popular or attractive and in love. 124 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: Who doesn't want to be popular or attractive and in love? Yeah, 125 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm just and I don't want to be rejects. Premise 126 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: out of hand guy, Because I haven't thought about this. 127 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm soft 128 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: and thoughtful and have the heart of a poet. 129 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: What but what when Iday, when I see Michael, Michael 130 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: says what, I'll come in there and slap you silly 131 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: if you don't admit I have the heart of a poet, Michael. 132 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: But if I see like an old couple holding hands 133 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: and I think that's really. 134 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: Sweet, it's simple they love each other, you secretly want 135 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: to be elderly? Yeah, just I don't know if I 136 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: buy it. 137 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: I don't. 138 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: I get way more of a reaction out of an 139 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: elderly couple than a younger couple. Yeah, a couple of young, 140 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: hot people are in love. I don't. Again, I don't 141 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: have antipathy for them. I'm I'm mad at them. 142 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: For that, but I don't particularly you two hotties go 143 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: off to get a room. 144 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Well, so I guess I got both going at the 145 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: same time in that, Like when they put the camera 146 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: on Taylor and she's jumping up and down in a 147 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: hugging Patrick Maholmes wife. I think, Okay, you're young, you're beautiful, 148 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: you're unbelievably rich and famous. Of course you're happy. I mean, 149 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: it just disgusts me on many levels. But on the 150 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: other hand, to say I don't want to be young, rich, 151 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: attractive and admired would be who am I trying to kid? 152 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Of course everybody wants that, don't they. I don't know. 153 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: I guess I'm just questioning whether that was any part 154 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: of my reaction to the two of them spooching at Midfield. 155 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, if that has anything to do with the other, 156 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think it was that deep yeah, 157 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: I wish I were that deep. I just thought, oh, 158 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: that's cute. I love love. I'm pro love. I hope 159 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: those two kids are happy. Okay, So you're uh okay 160 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: with not having much of a reaction to a guy 161 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: going splat on the pavement if it was his choice, 162 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: and not much of a reaction to the people kissing 163 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: at the fifty yard line. Okay, correct. 164 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: I'm not dead inside. I'm just mostly numb. It's like 165 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: two hours after a dental appointment. My lips sagging and 166 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: I'm getting spit all over my chin. 167 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: But I can feel a little bit. Yeah, still can't 168 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: drink out of a straw. If Travis and kel uh 169 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: take two? Yeah, take two, Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift 170 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: get married, I hope to register to Target. Yeah, well, 171 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: they have lots of kids. 172 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 2: America could use a new generation of super beautiful, talented, 173 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: virile children. 174 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: Mumm, well, I guess that's it.