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Speaker 1: On the Jordan Harbinger Show, You'll hear amazing stories from

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Speaker 1: with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career was

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Speaker 1: For more on how Jack became so trusted in the

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Speaker 1: ninety two of the Jordan Harbinger show Trump is sending

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Speaker 1: in the US military. Is it a good thing? Is

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Speaker 1: it a bad thing? I'll tell you what it's actually both.

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Speaker 1: We have looters in a real night of ugliness in America.

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Speaker 1: And finally, woman versus Diesel, who wins? All that's coming

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Speaker 1: up right now. I'm right before we get to my amazing,

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Speaker 1: is why I am taking immediate presidential action to stop

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Speaker 1: am mobilizing all available federal resources, civilian and military to

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Speaker 1: and to protect the rights of law abiding Americans, including

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Speaker 1: into effect immediately. First, we are ending the riots and

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Speaker 1: it now today. I have strongly recommended to every governor

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Speaker 1: solve the problem for them. Okay, what he's talking about

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Speaker 1: when he told governors to step up and solve the

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Speaker 1: Because we continue to have one ideology flee the rural

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Speaker 1: So Donald Trump brings up sending in the military. Guess

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Speaker 1: investment dollars going into China's equity markets. And most important

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Speaker 1: of all, we need to cut these tech sharing agreements

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Speaker 1: that American companies have with China because those agreements basically

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Speaker 1: pipeline information into the Chinese military, because Beijing has this

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Speaker 1: civil military fusion doctrine, which means that anything you do

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Speaker 1: with a Chinese quote unquote civilian institution is available to

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Speaker 1: the military. And on this you know, you have Google's

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Speaker 1: partnerships with Chinese universities on AI for instance. So these

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Speaker 1: are things that I think that we're going to have

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Speaker 1: to end, and the President has the authority to do

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Speaker 1: that under the nineteen seventy seven Act, the International Emergency's

436
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Speaker 1: Economic Powers Act. This would be drastic. But on the

437
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Speaker 1: other hand, what China is doing to us is drastic.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned AI, and I'm glad you brought this up.

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Speaker 1: People on this fascinating. Obviously, it's something from the movies.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody's seeing Iron Man. I mean everyone knows

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Speaker 1: what it is. How advanced is China when it comes

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Speaker 1: to things like AI and how much more advanced than

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Speaker 1: us are there? Are they just keeping pace that they

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Speaker 1: way behind? Are they light years ahead? And we're about

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Speaker 1: to be invaded by Chinese robots? Well, in certain tech

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Speaker 1: areas we're ahead. Other tech areas they're ahead. Specifically on

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Speaker 1: AI is where the United States does have a lead,

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Speaker 1: maybe not a big lead, but we've got one. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: our problem, though, is that AI is powered by data.

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Speaker 1: We have restrictions on the amount of data that can

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Speaker 1: go into our systems. China doesn't. So Eventually, even though

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Speaker 1: their technology is not as good as ours, because they've

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Speaker 1: got more and more data that they can feed into

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Speaker 1: their systems, there may end up with artificial intelligence which

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Speaker 1: is superior to ours. Gordon, can you elaborate what happened

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Speaker 1: with Hall Kong? Look, Americans fundamentally do not understand that

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Speaker 1: China Hong Kong dynamic anyway. Yet we were just told

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Speaker 1: Hong Kong's no longer politically autonomous. Americans went, oh no,

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Speaker 1: that sounds bad. Can you explain what it actually means? Sure,

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Speaker 1: Britain handed over Hong Kong, as they say to China

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven, and China, according to a treaty

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Speaker 1: with Britain, promised fifty years of a high degree of

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Speaker 1: autonomy according to the one country, two systems formula. At

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Speaker 1: the National People's Congress meeting in Beijing, Beijing just passed

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Speaker 1: what is called Article twenty three National Security Legislation. They

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Speaker 1: bypassed Hong Kong's Legislative Council where we would expect this

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Speaker 1: legislation to be enacted. This legislation is extremely unpopular in

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Speaker 1: Hong Kong, which is the reason why it never got passed,

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Speaker 1: so Beijing decided to just ram it through its own legislature,

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Speaker 1: which is basically a rubber stamp. And this is basically

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Speaker 1: the end of autonomy in Hong Kong. People are expecting,

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Speaker 1: and I think reasonably expecting, that because Beijing has closed

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Speaker 1: off the political process in Hong Kong, that this struggle

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Speaker 1: is now going to end up on the streets. On

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Speaker 1: the streets as in more of what we've seen with

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Speaker 1: these Chinese riot cops chasing out civilians, and we talk

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Speaker 1: in Chinese military. What is on the streets meet Well,

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Speaker 1: right now, it's just the Hong Kong Police, which is

479
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Speaker 1: acting even more thuggishly than usual. There are reports which

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Speaker 1: do have some credibility that China has been putting it's

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Speaker 1: either it's people armed police or People's Liberation Army troops

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Speaker 1: on the Hong Kong streets in the guise and the

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Speaker 1: uniforms of Hong Kong policemen. That remains to be confirmed,

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Speaker 1: but there's video evidence certainly suggesting that's the case. What

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Speaker 1: people are concerned about long term, of course, is that

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Speaker 1: China formally deploys its troops to Hong Kong's streets, and

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Speaker 1: that's when it really gets ugly, because then it becomes

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Speaker 1: open warfare. We're talking about Beirut, and this is not

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Speaker 1: necessarily a fight that China will win, largely because you've

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of insurgents who are willing to die,

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Speaker 1: supported by something like eighty percent of the population, and

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Speaker 1: that means a long term insurgency. You think Hong Kong

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Speaker 1: can stand up to China for that long, It can

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Speaker 1: stand up to China for a very long time. Look

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Speaker 1: what Vietnam did to us and to the French people

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Speaker 1: in Hong Kong. Some of them are absolutely determined because

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Speaker 1: they believe that this is last stand, this is defending

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Speaker 1: their homes and they view people from China as foreigners,

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Speaker 1: as colonialists. Now not everyone in Hong Kong feels that way,

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Speaker 1: but the independence movement, which was non existing seven eight

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Speaker 1: years ago, has now picked up steam in Hong Kong,

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Speaker 1: largely because they see China overreaching. You know, if China

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Speaker 1: had nothing until twenty forty seven, which is the end

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Speaker 1: of the fifty year period, there would be no demonstrations,

505
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Speaker 1: no riots, no anything. But Beijing has decided to meddle.

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Speaker 1: That's the way communists are, by the way, and because

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Speaker 1: of that, we now have an insurgency. Insurgencies can disappear

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Speaker 1: for long periods, but they always come back. And what

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Speaker 1: we were seeing, especially after the coronavirus epidemic has subsided

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Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, they're back to street fighting. Why are

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Speaker 1: communists that way, Gordon? Because you're right, I mean, it's clear,

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Speaker 1: no matter what they believe, no matter what their political

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Speaker 1: philosophy may be, they never look at any area where

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Speaker 1: they're not involved and think, I don't need to go there.

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Speaker 1: Why I think part of it is because communists are leninists.

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Speaker 1: Leninists believe in control and controlling everything, and that's the

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Speaker 1: way the Communist Party in China has acted so clearly.

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Speaker 1: They just could not not do anything in Hong Kong.

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Speaker 1: And this is just obviously it's it's going to lead

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Speaker 1: to the end of Hong Kong is a global financial center.

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Speaker 1: It could become a financial center in China, but without

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Speaker 1: the rule of law, without an impartial judiciary, and it's

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Speaker 1: losing those by the way Hong Kong is, it's just

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Speaker 1: not going to be what we know it. And that

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Speaker 1: financial business that has been taking place in Hong Kong

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Speaker 1: that's going to go to Singapore, maybe Taipei, maybe Tokyo,

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Speaker 1: probably London and New York. We are going to see

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Speaker 1: Hong Kong become, as they say, just another Chinese city.

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Speaker 1: That's too bad. Gordon Chang, it can find him on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Gordon ge Chang. Thank you, sir, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. We got more, we got good stuff. Well,

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Speaker 1: we can't forget about the fact we have a southern border.

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Speaker 1: We still have drugs pouring into America. And to talk

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Speaker 1: about that and other things, we're joined by Matt Pinsker.

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Speaker 1: He's the author of Crisis on the Border, an eyewitness

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Speaker 1: account of illegal aliens, violent crime, and cartels. Matt, before

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00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: we even get going on the actual border, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to forgive me. But I notice, city after city

539
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Speaker 1: after city in the United States of America seems to

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Speaker 1: pass laws that say, illegal aliens, you are more than

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Speaker 1: welcome to come here. In fact, we encourage you to

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Speaker 1: do so. This has to have a major effect on

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Speaker 1: the boarder. Oh, of course, it encourages people to come

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Speaker 1: to this country. When I was there in court prosecuting

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Speaker 1: people who for illegal entry, they were openly admitting that

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Speaker 1: they were coming to America to take part of the

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Speaker 1: benefits offered the welfare, state, education, as well as numerous

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Speaker 1: other benefits that are geared for citizens and legal immigrants. However,

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00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants are openly seen they're coming here for welfare,

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Speaker 1: to send their kids to our public schools funded by

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Speaker 1: our attacks spays, as well as other benefits, whether it's

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Speaker 1: public rhads, lawf you name it. And they're not hiding

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Speaker 1: the ball. I would love Jeff camer cruise in a

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Speaker 1: federal court at one day on the border to see

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Speaker 1: the illegal immigration docket we'd prosecute one hundred two hundred

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Speaker 1: people any given morning, and they were very open on

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00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: it's about what they were here to do, why they

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00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: were coming here. ID yelled in my book as much

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Speaker 1: as my Poltis will let me. But there's a lot

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Speaker 1: more than needs to be told. What do the American

561
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: people need to know? But here's what worries me, Matt.

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Speaker 1: I hear you say things like this, and I know

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Speaker 1: that would be true because I've talked to other people

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Speaker 1: down there, and I feel like it's not that the

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Speaker 1: Americans don't care about it, they're just so used to

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Speaker 1: it by this point in time, at least one party,

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Speaker 1: and I would argue half of the other major party

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00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: is openly courting this, and the American people are so

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Speaker 1: used to it they're not even they don't even have

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Speaker 1: the energy to get outraged about it anymore. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course they're pro illegal immigration. Well, it used to

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Speaker 1: be that Democrats would say the quiet they would say

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Speaker 1: the quiet part out loud. Now they're openly seen. They're

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Speaker 1: trying to use statistics because they think illegal immigrants or

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Speaker 1: at least your children will fit for Democrats. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're members of the quad have gone on the record

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Speaker 1: seeing that this is their goal, this is our motivation,

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Speaker 1: So they're not hiding the ball. We shouldn't pretend otherwise

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Speaker 1: as far as the needs say that out loud. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it's Nancy Pelosi and Chuck You would you say that

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Speaker 1: there was a need for borders. Barack Obama said, we

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Speaker 1: need to secure our border. A lot has changed in

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Speaker 1: the last ten years, and but I felt like we

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Speaker 1: were all the same page. We wanted to secure the border.

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Speaker 1: Now that's no longer true for at least one half

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Speaker 1: of America. But here's the most shocking part though. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's not the illegal aliens entering the country. It's the cartels.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is most people incorrectly

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Speaker 1: believe legal immigration is just it's a lot more to

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Speaker 1: it than that. Since I prosecuted for illegal entry, we're

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Speaker 1: actually being trafficked in by the Mexican drug cartels. What

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Speaker 1: that means is we'll just have people entering the country.

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Speaker 1: We have organized crime. We have cartels that are exploited,

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Speaker 1: that are exploiting people on both sides of the border

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Speaker 1: and abusing people the worst way as possible. I wish again,

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Speaker 1: why I want cameras in the federal courts. It's because

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Speaker 1: I wish that people could see just how bailey the

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Speaker 1: cartels are abusing illegal aliens entering the country. I get

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Speaker 1: the criminals they should be trying to enter the country,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they should be tortured by cigars and cigarette

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Speaker 1: burns all over them, or slashed with machetes about cartels

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00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: who are trying to stort more money from them. If

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Speaker 1: people were serious about wanting to protect and defend the

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Speaker 1: human rights of all people, including illegal aliens, they want

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Speaker 1: to secure the border. The cartels can only do this

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Speaker 1: because there's a power vacuum where we're not securing the border,

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Speaker 1: neither's Mexican government, so they've stepped in to fill the

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Speaker 1: game gap. And as I said, ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 1: all persons entering the country legally or trafficking by the

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Speaker 1: cartels are actually charging about sixty eight thousand dollars ahead.

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Speaker 1: So let me give some numbers to you for a perspective.

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Speaker 1: The human trafficking business across the southern border alone is

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Speaker 1: greater than the NBA, NFL in Major League Baseball combined.

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Speaker 1: We're dealing with more than twenty five billion dollars in

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Speaker 1: business of a human trafficking across our illegal border, not

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Speaker 1: as big as a drug trade, but getting close to it.

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Speaker 1: In fact, arguing leaving smarter to get involved in human

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Speaker 1: smuggling instead of drugs smuggling because the sentencing is a

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Speaker 1: lot looser and you can potentially make a lot more

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Speaker 1: money and humans trafficking than drug trafficking. Matt, I hate

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Speaker 1: that I'm even going to ask this question. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: did interrupt the hate that I'm going to ask this question.

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Speaker 1: Where are they going? What are they doing with them?

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly this is a modern day basic slave trade.

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Speaker 1: What are they doing with them? Because obviously we have

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Speaker 1: slaves here. What are they doing? Well, actually knew the

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Speaker 1: answer because when we catch illegal aliens, we give them

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Speaker 1: a Miranda warning and if they want to talk with us,

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Speaker 1: we ask them where are they going? What are they doing?

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Speaker 1: And by the time people are caught, they feared they

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Speaker 1: have nothing to lose, this won't get home as soon

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Speaker 1: as possible, so they're very cooperative and they tell us

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Speaker 1: exactly where they're going, what they're doing. And over nine

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Speaker 1: percent of everyone we interviewed came here for work, look

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Speaker 1: not for all the talk about refugees and silent seekers,

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Speaker 1: the realities of nine percent of the people are coming

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Speaker 1: here for jobs, and most of the people caught entering

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Speaker 1: the country legally already had a job lined up. They

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Speaker 1: tell us I wanted to work with my cousin at

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Speaker 1: a canci in New York City. We're going to work

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Speaker 1: out a farm in Illinois. I'm going to do domestic

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Speaker 1: work bing b Viet nanny or made in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: And they would tell us where they were going. They

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Speaker 1: might tell us who hire them, They tell us who

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Speaker 1: was paying they're smuggling fees, because these people are pro

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Speaker 1: they get paid for themselves at family members here in

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Speaker 1: the US who are fronting with smuggling, and they would

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Speaker 1: fold to slip. They would tell us at all they're

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Speaker 1: here for jobs, and whether or not they're here for jobs,

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Speaker 1: are still entry the country illegally. And on top of that, though,

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Speaker 1: you still have the much greater problem that it's they're

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Speaker 1: still painting. They're still painting sixty eight thousand tall. It's

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Speaker 1: a piece to the cartels. But here this will drive

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Speaker 1: your listeners and viewers crazy. Not once did we prosecute

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Speaker 1: anyone who's actually fronting the money. Not once did we

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Speaker 1: actually go after the employers who have already offered jobs.

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Speaker 1: In fact, a lot of the people entering the country

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Speaker 1: told us that while they were in El Salvador, Honduras, Mexico,

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Speaker 1: they're actively being recruited by American companies and employers. So

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Speaker 1: you know, no one's hiding the ball here. And here's

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Speaker 1: what's great. Everything that they say is on the record.

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Speaker 1: We record it all. It's called an A file. It's

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Speaker 1: the immigration file, and the miranda interviewed, the notes, it's

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Speaker 1: all recorded. It's all on the record there. If you're

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Speaker 1: sure your listeners are wondering, Okay, why aren't we going

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Speaker 1: after these employers, why aren't we going after the family

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Speaker 1: members who are paying the smuggling fees? Well the answer, well,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of answers. One is lack of interest

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Speaker 1: by a number of people who are politically motivated. But

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Speaker 1: the other reason is often time a lack of resources.

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Speaker 1: Because even if I was down there, I was prosecuting

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Speaker 1: on the border under zero tolerance, Yet for every ten

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Speaker 1: people crossing the country illegally, we'd only catch three of them.

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Speaker 1: So we were already have a stundy percent of fail rate,

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Speaker 1: and every three people we catch entering illegally, we could

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Speaker 1: only prosecute one out of three. Again because of lack

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Speaker 1: of resources, enough detention facilities, I enough courtrooms, enough prosecutors,

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Speaker 1: enough border patrol, and going further up to go after

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Speaker 1: the people, to follow the money trail without enough law

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Speaker 1: force and prosecutors for that, either the illegal aliens, the

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Speaker 1: guy is coming into the country to you know, work

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Speaker 1: a job better as life and mind backing for the family.

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Speaker 1: They're the low hanging for and they're the ones you

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Speaker 1: get prosecuted, my prosecutor. I mean, usually it's a slap

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Speaker 1: on the wrist. Maybe you're picked up on Wednesday, you're

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Speaker 1: in court Thursday, sence the time served, and you're driven

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Speaker 1: back across support into Mexico later that afternoon for our

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Speaker 1: first effets. So I mean it's not much of for

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Speaker 1: punishment to begin with. But we're going after the loganging

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Speaker 1: fruit rather than the people provide the needs, methods and incentives.

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Speaker 1: So I definitely think we need to start rejiggering our

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Speaker 1: priorities for how to go about this. Matt Pinsker, author

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Speaker 1: of Crisis on the Border, Go Buys Book. I appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: Matt thank you so much. Good talking to you, and

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Speaker 1: forget about that it is. That's a rough state of

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Speaker 1: affairs there, all right, We got a great video you

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Speaker 1: have to see. Well, every now and then we all

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Speaker 1: try to bite off a little more than we can chew.

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Speaker 1: One time time, I sat down and I decided I

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Speaker 1: was going to do a hot wing challenge. You see,

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Speaker 1: we were really big on this TV show we used

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Speaker 1: to love called Man Versus Food and he would either

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Speaker 1: try to eat a lot of food or you'd try

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Speaker 1: to eat some really hot food, and sometimes he would

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Speaker 1: just die. And I sat down for that. I forget

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Speaker 1: what they were called nuclear wings or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and the only I'd eat like five of them, and

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Speaker 1: I tried to take down the hot wing challenge and

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Speaker 1: I failed. Every now and then, you bite off more

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Speaker 1: than you can chew. So when you're faced with a

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Speaker 1: gigantic American diesel pickup truck towing a horse trailer and

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Speaker 1: you're a young lady, get out of the way. Look

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Speaker 1: you're in the road. Trucks go in the road. Women

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Speaker 1: don't go in the road. Trucks go in the road.

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Speaker 1: But the best part of the video was just the sound.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh my god. Can you believe that, like,

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Speaker 1: just stunned? Just you mean I couldn't hold him back?

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Speaker 1: Can you believe that? Um? Yes, I can believe the

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Speaker 1: trucks surrounded by violent people bounding on his windows chose

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Speaker 1: to step on the gas other than let you try

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Speaker 1: to push him out of the way. Well, let that

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Speaker 1: be a lesson to you kids. You cannot stop a truck,

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Speaker 1: important than you think it is. What Look, and I

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Speaker 1: look at my groups. I was doing these failure drills today,

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff is really important, I mean, really

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Speaker 1: made a thousand at a time. Please don't put your

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