WEBVTT - Decision Fatigue: Death by 1,000 Choices

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to stuff to Blow your Mind from how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. Julie,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you like in your sandwich? Would you like? Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, would you like rye bread, wheat bread,

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<v Speaker 1>white bread, pumpernickel bread, or banana bread? JUNI sour do? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Sour dough? Would you like it wheat Saturday? Yes? And

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<v Speaker 1>would you like European wheat sour dough. You're a sweet

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<v Speaker 1>sour dough. Um, I will like the European sweet sour dough. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're already feeling tired. Well, yeah, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>This is the way I feel whenever I go to

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<v Speaker 1>a place where they do like any kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich assembly line, where you go in and there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>an individual there that's gonna build you a sandwich. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they have the hilarious title of sandwich artists. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>but they are sandwich artists. Well, an artist doesn't add

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<v Speaker 1>for my input on the art. I'm just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>give me, give me one art, and they're like, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the art, and I'm like, that's great. You're so creative

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<v Speaker 1>in your creation of that you don't go into an

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<v Speaker 1>art gallery and then there's an artist standing there and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, so do you like usurrealist or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's no of that. So you go through this line.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to pick the bread, you have to pick

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<v Speaker 1>which vegetables, you have to pick which meat if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going with meat, or which fake meat if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go with that. Cheese options, different dressings, Um

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<v Speaker 1>you want to heat it up or not? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to cut in half? I mean, it just it

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<v Speaker 1>goes on and on, and by the end of it,

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<v Speaker 1>you just feel exhausted because you had to make so

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<v Speaker 1>many decisions and generally for a very limited uh you know, payoff,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're on some of the some of the

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<v Speaker 1>more you know, mainstream sandwich shops. I like this analogy

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<v Speaker 1>of the way that we move through life, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it feels like. You feel like you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to backup people behind you, right, and you're getting rushed

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<v Speaker 1>through your decisions. A NonStop sandwich line for a really

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<v Speaker 1>crappy sub that's life right. Possibly, possibly, hopefully you have

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<v Speaker 1>a sandwich artist who could perhaps liven it up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Um, but this actually nawse on thist, These

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<v Speaker 1>constant choices, these being bombarded by what we have to

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<v Speaker 1>move through every day just to to sort of get

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<v Speaker 1>things done. Yeah, it's called the decision fatigue. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing. It's a real thing, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>been sort of making the rounds are recently over the

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<v Speaker 1>past few years, but but especially in the last few

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<v Speaker 1>days because and by the time this says the last

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks, because there was a New York Times article

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and it forced everyone to re examine their

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<v Speaker 1>lives and the decisions, the multiple decisions that make up

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<v Speaker 1>every hour of the day, and what it's doing to

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<v Speaker 1>us on a on an emotional and physical level. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. So we are going to draw from this

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<v Speaker 1>article h called do you Suffer from Decision Fatigue? In

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times. UM, and I recommend that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. It's pretty long, but it's definitely worth it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like ten or so. UM. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was interesting that the article pointed out that

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<v Speaker 1>the word decide shares the same etymological route with the

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<v Speaker 1>word homicide, meaning that on a linguistic level, we realize

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<v Speaker 1>that we're killing off all of our other options, which

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<v Speaker 1>sort of float away into some sort of unseen parallel

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<v Speaker 1>universe for us. Exactly, it's kind of like every time

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<v Speaker 1>we make a decision, we're we're we're extrapolating, We're imagining

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<v Speaker 1>a future in which we make the choice. Be it

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<v Speaker 1>something like I wonder if what would happen if I

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<v Speaker 1>decide to go with the rye bread or if I

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<v Speaker 1>go with the plain bread. What if I get the

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<v Speaker 1>salad opposed to what if I get the soup? And

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<v Speaker 1>then with larger things too, it's like, well, what have

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<v Speaker 1>I major in in English versus what if I major

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<v Speaker 1>in pre law? That kind of thing, right, And of

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<v Speaker 1>course you can even see instances of this in quantum

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<v Speaker 1>suicide for instance. Right. Um, But from you know, our

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<v Speaker 1>day to day basis of having to deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>minutia um, it's really easy to start to over inflate

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of a choice, right because we can think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all of the storylines and books and movies

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<v Speaker 1>for helping us to feel that every single choice we

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<v Speaker 1>make could alter the reality that we are living well.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is that it kind of could. It

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<v Speaker 1>may not know, but mostly probably not right. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with it is we were not omniscient beings, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But but there is you know, it's like the butterfly effect,

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<v Speaker 1>which is which relates to chaos theory, um, which is

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface, the idea that say, a butterfly flaps

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<v Speaker 1>its wings on one side of the world and the

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<v Speaker 1>cascading effects from that one little um of action will

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<v Speaker 1>cause a hurricane on the other side of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was created by a weatherman, right, um, neurologists

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<v Speaker 1>working with computer models. Yeah, okay, Edward Lawrence, right. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's just a theory right obviously that we we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if the action of a butterfly's wings and

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<v Speaker 1>just example you know, yea of how this works, of

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<v Speaker 1>how chaos theory works. Um. But it again, you apply

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<v Speaker 1>your day to day decisions and you can really start

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<v Speaker 1>to perhaps overweigh them. Yeah. There's a great line from

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<v Speaker 1>Coral McCarthy. I believe this one is in No Country

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<v Speaker 1>for Old Men, where a character says that every moment

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<v Speaker 1>in your life is is a turning and everyone at

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<v Speaker 1>choosing somewhere you made a choice, and all followed to this.

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<v Speaker 1>The accounting is scrupulous. The shape is drawn, no line

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<v Speaker 1>can be erased. I had no belief in your ability

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<v Speaker 1>to move a coin to your bidding. How could you.

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<v Speaker 1>A person's path through the world seldom changes, and even

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<v Speaker 1>more seldom will it change abruptly. And the shape of

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<v Speaker 1>your path was visible from the beginning. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this kind of thing, and Court McCarthy with him

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<v Speaker 1>ruminating over um, the effects of choices and the choices

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<v Speaker 1>we make. There's a there's a part in UM all

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<v Speaker 1>the Pretty Horses where characters, Uh. There are two characters

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<v Speaker 1>and they're about to make a decision regarding a third

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<v Speaker 1>character and um, and one of the characters turns to

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<v Speaker 1>the other and says, you know, every time you do

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<v Speaker 1>something stupid in your in your life, you can always

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<v Speaker 1>trace it back to one decision. And that decision is

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<v Speaker 1>never like the stupid decision, but it's the decider, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in this timeline. It's where you split off from the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline where you wouldn't make this really dumb choice versus

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<v Speaker 1>the one where you do well. But in this explains

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<v Speaker 1>why we drive ourselves exactly, because in retrospect we can

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<v Speaker 1>always trace it back and say that was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was insignificant, But what have I done the other thing?

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<v Speaker 1>It's I mean, it's a big part of grief too.

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<v Speaker 1>Like whenever someone dies, um that we care about, we

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<v Speaker 1>can always trace it back to these little insignificant moments

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, what if that had gone the other way?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what have it had? Uh? It's still

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<v Speaker 1>an insignificant moment out of many insignificant moments. It just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of happens to loop into a very elaborate um

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<v Speaker 1>timeline of events, uh when we look back at it

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<v Speaker 1>from the present. So so yeah, it's easy to get

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<v Speaker 1>strung out over choices to the point where we end

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<v Speaker 1>up fretting over which bread to order with our sandwich,

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<v Speaker 1>even though generally this is not the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that the spirals out of control, one thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't normally worry about. Um. The New York Times article

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<v Speaker 1>again that do you suffer from decision fatigue? Says that

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<v Speaker 1>we have a finite store of mental energy for exercising

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<v Speaker 1>self control. And this was basically witnessed time and again

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<v Speaker 1>through a series of experiments carried out by social psychologist

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<v Speaker 1>Roy Baumeister. And we're gonna talk a lot about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the experiments that that he and his colleagues undertook. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the reason why otherwise reasonable people do illogical things,

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<v Speaker 1>right from flying off the handle and rage to buying

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<v Speaker 1>junk food when you didn't mean to, or flying off

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<v Speaker 1>the handle and rage at junk food right right, slapping

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<v Speaker 1>that junk food upside it's head um, to spending big

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<v Speaker 1>bucks on stuff that you regret later you think, why

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<v Speaker 1>in the world did I do that? Kind Yeah, impulse splies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because, as bow Master says, you are experiencing ego depletion. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>To to run some of this down again, it's to

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<v Speaker 1>really simplify it. It's kind of like the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>the mind is this hustle. And anyone who ever has

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<v Speaker 1>ever worked out knows, um, you know, with with weights

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, knows that there's like this whole idea of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like reps versus weight. Are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna pick up a ten pound weight? Like

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<v Speaker 1>ten times? Are you gonna pick up a hundred pound

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<v Speaker 1>weight once? That sort of thing. Again, I'm not a weightlifter,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe this may not be a perfect example, but

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<v Speaker 1>but still it's like if you pick up a small

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<v Speaker 1>weight enough times, your arms will get as tired as

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<v Speaker 1>if you picked up something really heavy once. Well you

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<v Speaker 1>know what. And and as a side note on the

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<v Speaker 1>mind body connection, did you know that if you are

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<v Speaker 1>exercising and say doing reps and really focusing on your

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<v Speaker 1>arms that day, that when you go to sleep at night,

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the brain that controls the functions of

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<v Speaker 1>your arms is actually going to be much more active

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<v Speaker 1>in sleep than the other parts of your brain. So

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<v Speaker 1>there there's connections. Idea that energy expended is being manifested

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<v Speaker 1>in the body. And again this is this is borne

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<v Speaker 1>out by a lot of about Masters research, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. So if I have to go through a

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<v Speaker 1>line and choose every single option that goes into the

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<v Speaker 1>creation of my sandwich, and then I have to make

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<v Speaker 1>a decision about like who to fire at work or

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<v Speaker 1>something later on, I'm picturing like a big wig and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, New York going through a sandwich line here,

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<v Speaker 1>cigar in here. Yeah, so let's just do that. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>give him a cigar. Yeah, I was giving a cigar

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah. By by the by the time that

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<v Speaker 1>you have picked out your sandwich, you have made all

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<v Speaker 1>these choices. You're less um prepared to make a big

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<v Speaker 1>choice later in the day. Well, that's the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>that when you have been bombarded by all these little decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time four o'clock rolls around, you do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to make the big decision that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>make for the day. You do don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>to push the red button, so to speak, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>seriously going to be incapacitated, because your mental energy is

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<v Speaker 1>already going to fold up on top of itself and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to batten down the hatches. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make the safest choice for myself, which is not always

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<v Speaker 1>the right choice, right, and I don't want to think

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<v Speaker 1>about it that much. UM. Usually, like you would want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the kind of person who was like someone's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to I need you to come help me

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<v Speaker 1>move furniture, and you're like, great, I'm gonna go lift

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<v Speaker 1>some weights first, Like that wouldn't make any sense, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could immediately before it, right right. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is that you don't want to fatigue

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in the muscle. I mean, the brain is like

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<v Speaker 1>a muscle, and and you don't necessarily want to do that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's really interesting because it does explain

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<v Speaker 1>why we do what we do. Bau Master says, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how rational and high minded you try to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't make a decision of decision without paying a

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<v Speaker 1>biological price. It's different from ordinary physical fatigue. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>consciously aware of being tired, but you're low and mental energy.

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<v Speaker 1>The more choices you make throughout the day, the harder

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<v Speaker 1>each one becomes for your brain. Eventually it looks for shortcuts,

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<v Speaker 1>usually in either one of two very different ways. One

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<v Speaker 1>shortcut is to become reckless okay, to act impulsively instead

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<v Speaker 1>of expending the energy to first think through the consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>Um And they use this example in the article sure

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<v Speaker 1>tweet that Phoe know what could go wrong? Right? The

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<v Speaker 1>other shortcut is the ultimate energy saver, do nothing instead

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<v Speaker 1>of agonizing over decisions, avoid any choice. Ducking a decision

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<v Speaker 1>often creates bigger problems in the long run, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, it eases the mental string. You're you're basically

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<v Speaker 1>differring mental anguish. And you've talked. You said something about

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<v Speaker 1>a Japanese proverb. Japanese proverb that basically says, by by

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<v Speaker 1>doing nothing, all problems are solved by by refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>come to a decision. You're solving that problem one way

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<v Speaker 1>or another, but probably not in the way that is

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<v Speaker 1>beneficial to you. Right, And I'm sure we've all been

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<v Speaker 1>there at one point or another and understand that. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of studies have basically carried out this this

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<v Speaker 1>um idea that ego depletion and its effect on willpower

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<v Speaker 1>is actually pretty stunning. Um. Initially these studies would focus

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<v Speaker 1>on food, right, because how what better way could you

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<v Speaker 1>study at someone's willpower and the ability to self censured

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<v Speaker 1>than by throwing a bunch of donuts at exactly literally

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<v Speaker 1>throwing them at them. That there was a postdoc fellow

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<v Speaker 1>in bomb Muster's lab and she had an epiphany about

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<v Speaker 1>the laboriousness of all those choices. After going through the

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<v Speaker 1>process of registering for gifts for her upcoming wedding, she

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<v Speaker 1>found that she was incredibly exhausted just when she went

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<v Speaker 1>to go and register for gifts. Yeah, weddings are a

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<v Speaker 1>huge suck on the whole decision portion of the brain

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's NonStop decisions beforehand and then afterwards to

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<v Speaker 1>is you're deciding, Uh, you know which, like which picture

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna pick up for your album's situations where people

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<v Speaker 1>don't get their wedding album actually completed until you know,

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<v Speaker 1>years after the marriage or you know, begins or after

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<v Speaker 1>the marriage ends. Yeah. Well, and I will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>too that the first time I went to get register

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<v Speaker 1>with my husband, I kind of had a not a

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<v Speaker 1>melt down in which I was crying, but I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we need to leave. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>towels to get. I don't I never considered towels. I

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<v Speaker 1>never considered this. I'm picturing you being physically removed in

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<v Speaker 1>tears from Craton Barrel by security. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go there anymore, which is fine, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can shop online. Um. But basically she had a hunt here.

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<v Speaker 1>So the labs set out to replicate a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>quasi department store of wedding gifts, and they had two

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<v Speaker 1>groups peruce the offerings. Group one had to make a

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<v Speaker 1>decision about what one item they could keep at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the experiment, okay, Group two was asked to

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<v Speaker 1>give their opinions on the products and if they had

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<v Speaker 1>ever used similar products in the last six months. So

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<v Speaker 1>Group one has to make decision, group too not so much. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Both groups were then given a classic impulse control test.

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<v Speaker 1>I love us holding your hand in ice water for

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you can so group one. The deciders

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<v Speaker 1>I lasted for just twenty eight seconds, but the non

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<v Speaker 1>deciders sixty seconds on average, so almost double. You know, this,

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<v Speaker 1>this physical manifestation was found in this, this very simple

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<v Speaker 1>impulse control test. Now they did this over and over

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<v Speaker 1>a so the more decisions you make, the less control

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<v Speaker 1>you have over holding your hand and water. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just that you're making decisions, but your actual

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<v Speaker 1>physical being is going to be decided by this as well. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not the abstract you know, becomes a concrete thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So when g Gordon Liddy did the famous thing with

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<v Speaker 1>the cigarette lighter under his palm, he was basically saying,

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<v Speaker 1>try me, I haven't made a decision in weeks. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like he's got that's never find Um, I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>with it. But anyway, this is an illuminating study. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a sea change in studying the ego

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<v Speaker 1>uh depletion effect because it really had this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what it was tied to um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these choices could have an effect on your willpower, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it was just something that wasn't that important. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So they began to do this over and over again,

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<v Speaker 1>and they even saw this and car buyers. Right, there

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<v Speaker 1>was an experiment in which they had real customers spending

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<v Speaker 1>their own money and they had to choose, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>among four styles of gearship gearshif not, thirteen kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>wheel rims, twenty five configurations of the engine and gearbox,

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<v Speaker 1>and a palette of fifty six colors for the interior.

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<v Speaker 1>See I'm already I'm feeling fatigued and um. As they

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<v Speaker 1>started picking out features, customers would like carefully weigh the

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<v Speaker 1>choices at first, but then fatigue would set in and

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<v Speaker 1>they'd start to go into default options. Okay, well you know,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially at the end of this exercise they were like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>give me whatever, um, And they left the dealership by

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<v Speaker 1>paying extra two thousand dollars in options that they probably

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want, but because they had this barrage of choices

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<v Speaker 1>put forth, which is sort of a typical sales technique, right,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at car dealerships. Yeah, a nefarious tactic of the

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<v Speaker 1>hard self like get somebody in a room and do

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<v Speaker 1>not let them leave until they make a decision, or

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<v Speaker 1>rather make the decision you want them to make. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And at this point you've probably put a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>research in time into finding the car that you want,

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<v Speaker 1>negotiating it UM, and then trying to meet out these

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<v Speaker 1>details about what you want the final project to look like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you've probably been there for five hours and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, fine, if you will let me leave this

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<v Speaker 1>dealership with my car, I will pay two thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>It's essentially what you're saying, without even knowing that you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>There's I actually ran across another study that also involves UM.

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<v Speaker 1>This one involves cake as well, UH, which is which

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<v Speaker 1>is always fun. And this was a Stanford University Graduate

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<v Speaker 1>School of Business test where they had they had two

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<v Speaker 1>groups UH in one. In one group, the subjects were

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<v Speaker 1>asked to remember a one digit number, which is pretty easy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the other group was asked to remember seven

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<v Speaker 1>digit number and H Then they were asked to walk

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<v Speaker 1>down the hallway to where they would have to report

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<v Speaker 1>this number, and along the way UH coworkers would come

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<v Speaker 1>to them and offer them either a big slice of

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate cake or a bowl of fruit salad, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>by by a huge, huge percentage, those who were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to remember the seven the seven digit numbers picked the

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<v Speaker 1>cake over the fruit salad. So the idea was that

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<v Speaker 1>the people trying to remember the seven digit number were

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<v Speaker 1>already taxing their brain enough to where they lacked sufficient

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<v Speaker 1>mental energy to stand up to the temptation of the cake,

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore their impulse control was compromised. Well, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't remember a seven digit number. There just wasn't enough

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<v Speaker 1>gas in the tank to resist cake. Also, it should

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<v Speaker 1>note that again in this article that's on long. Um, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can intend. Uh. There are instances of these studies

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again, and we're not obviously going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about all of them. All of them involved cake

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<v Speaker 1>is weird. Yeah, a lot of suites in these studies, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do bear out this familiar idea that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your willpower is going to be greatly affected and um,

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<v Speaker 1>so much so that there's something called the Marti Gras effect.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to get to that right after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back the Mardy Gras effect. So let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>get down to it. This involves beads and streets lined

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<v Speaker 1>with people and partial nudity, partial nudity and a string

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<v Speaker 1>of parades and spicy food right. M Yes, to the

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<v Speaker 1>degree that it is a metaphor for this idea that

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<v Speaker 1>you could exert better willpower later if you indulge yourself

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<v Speaker 1>with something pleasurable. Now, this is the idea that bown

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<v Speaker 1>Master and into his colleagues had, so to refresh it's

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<v Speaker 1>with Mardy Gras. Marty Gras immediately proceeds lent, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a period of of fasting or what, Well, you're giving

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<v Speaker 1>up something you choose what you're going to give up.

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<v Speaker 1>For a lot of people, this may be alcohol, um

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<v Speaker 1>or it maybe something kind of weenye like well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give up fried foods or using the word

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<v Speaker 1>cloaca in a podcast, why would you do that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what that's what we're doing next year. Get ready.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. In accordance with the Marty Gras fact though,

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<v Speaker 1>before we gave up using the word floaca in a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we would have an all out cloaca blowout podcast edition

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<v Speaker 1>where it was just NonStop discussion of feel like cloaca

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<v Speaker 1>and articles, right, yeah, so the a yeah and then

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<v Speaker 1>yeah exactly. So if you could make for a fascinating podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>which but the but the idea with Marty Grays you

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<v Speaker 1>have the big old party because you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>good for over a month afterwards, with occasional breaks for

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<v Speaker 1>feast days beef steaks, Feast days, Feast days beef steaks

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<v Speaker 1>like beef steaks coming to the equation. There are different

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<v Speaker 1>feast days where they're like holy celebrated days. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>all right to break your lent faster. We'll see. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know a lot about this lent thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>that just seems like cheating. We'll see. Nine. My mother

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<v Speaker 1>in law thought the same thing. She was like, she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know about these feast days in

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, but but but a priest told me this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is legit. But anyway, but yes, they

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<v Speaker 1>so they you know, in this lab, they took the

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<v Speaker 1>same tact, right like we're gonna go ahead and try

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<v Speaker 1>to get these groups to indulge. And so what they

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<v Speaker 1>did is they gave two groups milkshakes. Sounds good right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>One was tasteless, low fat glop, absolute glop, right, a glock,

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<v Speaker 1>but a milkshake nonetheless tas. The other one was decadent,

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<v Speaker 1>calorie laden and and yummy. Right. So the researchers expected

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<v Speaker 1>that the decadent milkshakes would perform better on willpower tesk right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the result is that both groups performed well on

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<v Speaker 1>these these tasks that they were given after they consumed this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a head scratch until they figured out

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<v Speaker 1>that the gluca glucas was mitigating the ego depletion and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes completely reversing it both of the milk shapes. So

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<v Speaker 1>basically you had is you had these two groups and

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<v Speaker 1>they were going through similar to the other study where

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<v Speaker 1>they were given choices and their willpowers being eroded. They

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<v Speaker 1>took break, they had the milkshakes, they came back to

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<v Speaker 1>do some more difficult tasks. They both performed really well.

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<v Speaker 1>So they thought, oh this this uh, this experiment went

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<v Speaker 1>terribly awry. It didn't meet our expectations. But what they

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<v Speaker 1>figured out is that it was the actual glucose in

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<v Speaker 1>the milkshake. It didn't really matter whether or not it

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<v Speaker 1>was calorie laden or delicious or you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the actually the food itself that was tripping the mind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So again and again in lab experiments dealing with self

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<v Speaker 1>control exercises, researchers found that people naturally gravitated towards sugary,

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<v Speaker 1>glucose filled snacks when given the choice between say, like

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<v Speaker 1>potato chips and candy. It's and and it's really effective, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a temporary fix. And researchers also took dieters,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the classic group that you would want to study, right,

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<v Speaker 1>forty five women. What they did is they showed them

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of food, and they scan their brains okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>then they made them watch a comedy a film okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and they made them suppress their laughter. It just seems,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, okay, um, not not exactly cruel. But what

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to induce was ego depletion because it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of mental energy to try to do something

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<v Speaker 1>that is coming to you naturally, right, and also you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're robbing yourself with a little reward center ding right,

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<v Speaker 1>because we all know that laughter in comedy is is

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<v Speaker 1>something that lights up our brains. So afterwards, they showed

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<v Speaker 1>these the group food images again and they scan their

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<v Speaker 1>brains again, and what they found is that there's more

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<v Speaker 1>activity in the nucleus incumbents, which is the ward of

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<v Speaker 1>the ward center, and less activity in the amigda, which

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<v Speaker 1>processes emotions and control impulses. So their ability to exercise

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<v Speaker 1>um willpower was compromised. And could see this in the scan, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the researchers wondered what a shot of glucose

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<v Speaker 1>could do if they added that to the scenario, and

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<v Speaker 1>they found that the brain changes were completely reversed, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what I talked about earlier. So again this link

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<v Speaker 1>is born out in the scan as well. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just it sounds like a big excuse, right, like I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've had to make so many choices today and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I did this. I think you call this that

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<v Speaker 1>the double made me do it, uh rationale, But in

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<v Speaker 1>fact you do see real evidence that this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that is working at play and uh really eroding our

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<v Speaker 1>confidence and our ability to make decisions and making wise

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<v Speaker 1>decisions too. Yeah, sort of like I was thinking in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the TV show Madman, kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>Don Draper effect, where Don Draper has a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>decisions to make about who he's gonna fire and who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be mean to generally Peggy um and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and and so he makes all these decisions and at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the every show it's pretty much Don

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<v Speaker 1>Draper doing something really stupid. There you go, you just

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<v Speaker 1>cracked the writer's secret right there. Yeah. Yeah, if only

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<v Speaker 1>he had a little glucose shot, then he would just

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, well, he has most narrat shots throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the the late morning, afternoon, and evening, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not the glucose ones. But they saw listen judges too.

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<v Speaker 1>They saw this in it Israeli parole board. They studied

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<v Speaker 1>the judges there and they found that they would grant

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<v Speaker 1>parole much more so in the morning than in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you had a ten o'clock case, you

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<v Speaker 1>were pretty lucky, right, you probably would get parole because

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting more thought into it. They're making more thoughtful,

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<v Speaker 1>informed decisions, right, they're not as inundated at three o'clock. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably not gonna get parole. And Uh, they apply

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<v Speaker 1>this glucose test to them as well. So they started

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<v Speaker 1>giving them a little snacks throughout the day and whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>right after the snack, guess what you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>get parole? Huh. So it's pretty amazing to see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of in play. And that's really cupcake. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>take home here a deconan smoothie? Perhaps? Yeah, But the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that the in case you're wondering why they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>granting parole is because this really was the safest choice

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<v Speaker 1>for them, because they were essentially deferring the decision because

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<v Speaker 1>they could say to themselves, I can I'm gonna bat

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<v Speaker 1>down the hatches on my mental energy because I know

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<v Speaker 1>that this case is going to come up again at

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<v Speaker 1>six months, two months, a year, and I can decide

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<v Speaker 1>them this feels like the safer choice. Okay, well that

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<v Speaker 1>this seems like a solid I mean, I'm taking you

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<v Speaker 1>outside of a criminal um, you know, injustice scenario. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea of deferring the choice of of sort of trusting

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<v Speaker 1>another body with your choices, uh, seems like a good

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<v Speaker 1>way to deal with decision fatigue, Like instead of going

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<v Speaker 1>stepping through every process in getting the sandwich, just the

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<v Speaker 1>way you want it, or think you might want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be able just to point and say I will

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<v Speaker 1>have the number three. Well, and that's and you're trusting

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<v Speaker 1>your sandwich artists or whoever to give you the type

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<v Speaker 1>of sandwich you would want. And of course that that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of makes a lot of us knee jerk,

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<v Speaker 1>especially Americans, because we like our choice so much, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>even with our most mundane things like Okay, what sort

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 1>of crappy sandwich am I gonna get? Yeah, I should

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<v Speaker 1>have complete free reign to just just have no vegetables

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<v Speaker 1>at all, just me. Yeah. Yeah. And there have been

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<v Speaker 1>studies that suggest that less choices make more sense for us. There's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, less fatigue that we're experiencing. Um, perhaps we're

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<v Speaker 1>happier with less choices. I tell you one example of

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<v Speaker 1>like in my case when it comes to listening to music,

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to absorb a lot of my music through

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<v Speaker 1>mixed podcasts, so to a certain extent, instead of saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what albums I'm gonna listen to for the

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<v Speaker 1>next hour or two hours, or which individual tracks I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to choose to listen to instead, I'm going to trust, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this individual DJ to give me a nice assortment of

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<v Speaker 1>tracks that I wouldn't In that way, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to have to find out who these artists are. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to to go out and discover new things.

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<v Speaker 1>I will let this guy discover things and deliver them

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<v Speaker 1>to me in a as a sonic meal. So and

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<v Speaker 1>that this person is vetted for you, right, so it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like, okay, I can seed my control over to

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<v Speaker 1>this person. Well, either it's somebody that I trust already,

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>like you know it's a it's a it's a DJ

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I follow, or since a lot of these are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they did to be podcast properties, so um it may

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>say it's like the Solid Steel Radio show, or um

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<v Speaker 1>like a Body Tonic podcast or any of these other

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 1>music podcasts. There'll be multiple DJs that come through, So

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<v Speaker 1>then there's like a larger level. Am I trusting that

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<v Speaker 1>particular podcast to give me a DJ I can trust,

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>who will then give me music I can trust? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So this actually um is similar to a jam study

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not or jelly for further, folks who

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>don't prefer jam and and not asn't kick out the jams,

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<v Speaker 1>but is then spread on the jam as in PB

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<v Speaker 1>and j jam. Right. Sheina I Anger, a professor of

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<v Speaker 1>business at Columbia University, conducted a study in which she

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<v Speaker 1>her research assistant set up a booth of samples of

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Wilkins and Sons jams. Seems innocent enough, right, Every few hours,

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<v Speaker 1>they switched from offering a selection of twenty four jams

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to a group of six jams. On average, customers tasted

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<v Speaker 1>two jams regardless of the size of the assortment, and

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>each person received a cub on good for one dollar off. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the really interesting part of this is that sixty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of customers were drawn to the large assortment, while only

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<v Speaker 1>stopped by the small one. But thirty percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who had sampled from the small assortment decided to

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<v Speaker 1>buy jam, as opposed to only three percent of those

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>people confronted with a big assortment of jelly. So that again,

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>here's this, here's this idea that you have this wide assortment,

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<v Speaker 1>you have all of these choices, and you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>back away. Whereas you cull it down a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, your sales go from three percent

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<v Speaker 1>to so yeah, So like with me, it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather choose one of eighteen podcasts versus one out

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, several hundred DJs versus like one artist

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>out of you know, hundreds and hundreds represented in those mixes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just easier to refine it down. And I guess

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>in a much larger way people make these choices when

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<v Speaker 1>they choose various religions, philosophies, um political ideologies, because you're

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of saying, I want instead of going through and

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<v Speaker 1>customizing your preferences, like the sandwich, you will just say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, give me the Catholic sandwich, give me

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the um Tea party sandwich, give me the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>give me the give the Zen Buddhist sandwich, give me

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<v Speaker 1>the Hindoo sandwi. You know, It's like you're you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>give me those set of of preordained preferences. Uh, and

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>let me take that on because I I generally like

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the shape of that sandwich and the look of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to trust the various factors in that

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>sandwich to do me right. All right, Right, So I

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like, okay, give me the atheist sandwich because that

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<v Speaker 1>that works, and and I'm going to run with that model.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's but then something. The only thing is what

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<v Speaker 1>if you get that sandwich and you really don't like lapenas?

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So do you learn to like kalepenas? Maybe you do.

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean again, this is it's really interesting if you

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<v Speaker 1>apply it to the way that we we wield our

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<v Speaker 1>choices in the world and why you sometimes look back

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and think, how how did I make that choice? That

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<v Speaker 1>seems so rational in the moment, but now it seems

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>like how how could I have made that choice? Or

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<v Speaker 1>what if the sandwich ends up containing say, um, you

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>know baby seal or condor patties, you know, like some

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of endangered species, and you're but you're like, oh,

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>but the rest of the sandwich is so good. I

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<v Speaker 1>just accepted the bad with the good for the You've

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>just minimized your choice to witness relocation. My friend, you

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>got to put your mustache on. But no, wonder you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we get ourselves in a tizzy because did you know

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<v Speaker 1>that three to four hours of our day is spent

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<v Speaker 1>in some sort of state of desire? Okay, okay, ballmeister again.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy his group gave pre programmed blot berries to

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<v Speaker 1>more than two hundred people for a week. The phones

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<v Speaker 1>went off at random intervals, prompting the people to report

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<v Speaker 1>whether they were currently experiencing some sort of desire or

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>had recently felt a desire. They collected more than ten

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>thousand momentary reports than this is from Morning Tonight, and

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the results suggested that people spend between three and four

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day resisting desire or some sort of urge

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. As the New York Times article put it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you tapped four or five people at any random

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<v Speaker 1>moment in the day, one of them would be using

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<v Speaker 1>willpower to resist a desire. And the most common desires

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<v Speaker 1>eat in sleep right makes sense, followed by leisure activities,

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<v Speaker 1>and then followed by the urge to have sex. The

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<v Speaker 1>three or four hours of this it seems like a lot.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>It does. I mean, obviously this is not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in in constant three or four hours state of desire,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does. It does tie in rather nicely with

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the the idea that that's that the

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<v Speaker 1>desire is one of the roots of suffering in the world. Well,

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>this is the this idea of this temptation that that

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of throws us off, and that's why our old

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>magdala is taken up there so to speak, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>keep us on the street and narrow. Well, that's well,

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>there you go. That's uh. So that's pretty fascinating and

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<v Speaker 1>it is one of those things that definitely forces you

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<v Speaker 1>to take another look at your life and look at

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<v Speaker 1>the the numerous decisions that fill it and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps figure out ways where we can cut down

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<v Speaker 1>on the number of decisions we're taxing our brain with

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<v Speaker 1>at the expense of the decisions we really need to make.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the truth. That's that's that's sort of my takeaways,

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<v Speaker 1>Like try to eat more consistently throughout the day, right

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>so I can make better decisions. Try to make the

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<v Speaker 1>decisions earlier in the day. Yeah, and uh and uh,

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else, and believe what other people

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you to listen to and uh and why you

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>know fun get some good vetted people to make some

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>decisions for you. I mean seriously, it's like it saves

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>so much time and energy if you can just find

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<v Speaker 1>like a good DJ or a good uh or maybe

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>there you know it's a it's a particular blogger you

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<v Speaker 1>agree with them, or a movie critic. I mean seriously,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 1>like when it comes to finding out whether you want

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to watch rain go or not. It's nice to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to just turn to Eager and see, like, all right, Eber,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think of it? You give it four stars? Okay,

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll give it. Yeah, that's true. Stick in Google and

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>getting like ten different results, going through like and mucking

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>through a bunch of them and saying like, well, I

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know who's this guy? Should I vet him? He

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>liked listening? You know, it's just just pick somebody you

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>like and go with it. There you go. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the answer to life right there. Well, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>have some listener mail. We kind of neglected it in

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<v Speaker 1>the last few podcasts because we either I either forget

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<v Speaker 1>to print it out or we end up going a

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<v Speaker 1>little too long and don't really have time for it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe we went too long today. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll find out. We have some email here from a

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<v Speaker 1>listener by the name of Jonathan Jonathan Wright, Senuss, Hi, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>and Julie. I'm catching up on your podcast, having started

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>listening to it after listening to the other How Stuff

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Works podcast over a hundred podcasts, but I listened a

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<v Speaker 1>lot on the road. I listened to the one on

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<v Speaker 1>subliminal messaging. Today, I think it's your fifty newest. When

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<v Speaker 1>talking about smells, it reminded me of a store I

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>bet you would love. There's a great outdoor mall in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego, California called Corton Plaza. There is a Cinnamon

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Roll Bakery was bought out by Cinnamon unfortunately, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>an exhaust event from the inside the kitchen that pumps

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.720
<v Speaker 1>cinnamon roll smell into the walkway in front of the store.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not subliminal as much as pure evil, but was

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<v Speaker 1>always a great It was always such a clever idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Now if you walk a few more doors down there

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<v Speaker 1>is a sparky house of glue, close your eyes and

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you can appreciate, really appreciate the smell wafting from their

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>fan delicious rendered horse paste and so so that's that's fascinating. Um.

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>And of course I think we discussed that the cinnamon

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<v Speaker 1>bun smell is is really powerful when it comes to

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>controlling people. Yeah, that's right, it's it's the siren song

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>of temptation. Yeah, one would have to make a Ulysses

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<v Speaker 1>pack to discover it. Which, by the way, if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to this podcast, and you have not

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:08.760
<v Speaker 1>listened to our one um uh, the the accompanying podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that we did on procrastination. Uh, stop putting on putting

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<v Speaker 1>it off and listen to that, because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of crossover between the two companion. We also heard from

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<v Speaker 1>a listener by the name of Trent, and Trent rights

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<v Speaker 1>in and hit some some very interesting things to say

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.399
<v Speaker 1>about our Religion and Space episode. He says, Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually been meaning to send this email for a

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<v Speaker 1>while and I'm only just getting around to it. There

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you go, Procrastination against UM. I enjoyed your podcast on

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<v Speaker 1>religion in Space and thought Robert's comment on taking the

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<v Speaker 1>best bits from different religions very interesting. However, I do

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<v Speaker 1>see some problems, the main one being what if there

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<v Speaker 1>are parts of a religion that may not seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be beneficial according to currently held ideas, and it isn't

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<v Speaker 1>much later that it turns out to be quite beneficial.

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<v Speaker 1>I am thinking of one example in particular. I am

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<v Speaker 1>a Jehovah's witness, and we take the Bible's instruction to

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<v Speaker 1>abstain from blood very literally, including the refusal of blood transfusions.

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<v Speaker 1>For years, we have been looked down upon by not

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<v Speaker 1>only the medical community but people in general because of

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<v Speaker 1>our refusal to accept accept blood transfusions. However, in part

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<v Speaker 1>due to the witness witnesses, huge advances in bloodless surgery

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<v Speaker 1>and medicine have been made and it is now accepted

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<v Speaker 1>by many medical practitioners that it has many advantages and

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<v Speaker 1>in almost all cases is more beneficial than a traditional

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<v Speaker 1>blood transfusion, which leads me to the next point of

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<v Speaker 1>the email. UM a show suggestion. I think a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>on bloodless surgery would be interesting. Um So, anyway, he

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<v Speaker 1>does bring up an interesting point and one that um,

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<v Speaker 1>I've kind of thought of two and think because to refresh,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of have often played with this idea of religion, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the religion buffet where you go through, and of course

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you end up making a lot of choices in this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like say, here, here we go. We're

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<v Speaker 1>at the buffet line again. Yeah, where you go through

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, I like this from this religion, this

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<v Speaker 1>from that religion, or I like these ideas from this

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<v Speaker 1>given UM view on the world, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>adopt these and leave this UM. But yeah, on one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>you're making a lot of decisions In this you're so

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<v Speaker 1>you're taxing your decision making ability and uh indeed, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like we were talking about. UH. But by

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<v Speaker 1>choosing I can avoid the hillo the Halopenias that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want. But what if I really need Halopinians

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't realize it? What if there's something? What

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<v Speaker 1>if in picking and choosing from different uh faiths and philosophies,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I'm neglecting to get the things my body

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>actually needs. What if I'm like the kid who refuses

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<v Speaker 1>to put vegetables on his sandwich just because he doesn't

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like them, when really that scurvy kid needs vegetables like

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's business. Well, I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 1>it and the Great Spaghetti Monster. Maybe I need some

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>garlic bread with my spaghetti monster. There you go with Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a made up deity, Yes, yes, as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to all the other deities which are not made up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there, yes, yes it was recently in the news,

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