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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lollly with Matt Williamson and Matt Uh.

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Speaker 1: They're scheduling and they're scheduling, and I know you and

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Speaker 1: I and Mike Pursuita and Stan Savereign did the Steelers

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Speaker 1: schedule release show last We were kind of looking at

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Speaker 1: that thing as it was happening. We just got it

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Speaker 1: like everybody else, a couple of minutes before the show started.

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Speaker 1: So we're kind of looking at, you know, how to

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Speaker 1: schedule breaks down all that stuff. Um, you sent me

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Speaker 1: this and Warren Sharp broke down the hardest and easiest schedules.

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Speaker 1: And he looks at this a little bit differently. The travel,

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Speaker 1: the travel involved, the when you play a team, where

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Speaker 1: they coming off there by things of that nature. He

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Speaker 1: factors in rest and the what Vegas projects these teams

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Speaker 1: to be not like it amazed me. It took so

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Speaker 1: long for someone to come up with not going off

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Speaker 1: last year's winning percentages, you know, like Denver's a lot

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Speaker 1: different with Russell Wilson and there a year ago. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean so many teams are with free agency. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, pre you could look at a team, well,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be pretty much the same as they were

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Speaker 1: the year before. There weren't many worse to firsts and

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Speaker 1: things like that. I'm sure either. I mean, look at

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Speaker 1: outlook of those teams are drastically different. Yeah. So he

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Speaker 1: actually has the Steelers with the fourth hardest schedule, and

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Speaker 1: just looking at it on paper when it came out yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is harder than I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it was because they're after I mean,

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Speaker 1: That I think it's gonna be a tough climb for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he he has the Chiefs with the hardest schedule in

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Speaker 1: the league. And as I mentioned what we were in break, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs open the season with eight consecutive games against

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Speaker 1: teams at a winning record last year. It's crazy, and

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Speaker 1: they're the logic behind it. They're gonna be a team

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Speaker 1: The division's brutal. You know, everyone's gunning for them, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: about the Bengals. But it's different being the hunted than

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Speaker 1: the hunter. Accustomed to that they are. They are much

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Speaker 1: more so than the Bengals are. The Rams have the

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Speaker 1: then the Steelers. One little Rams note. I was really

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Speaker 1: dug into the schedule today on our podcast that so

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Speaker 1: just so people know, it goes every other year. Last year,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers had nine home games and eight road games.

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Speaker 1: That's the opposite this year. So the NFC has nine

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Speaker 1: home games and eight road games. But the Niners play

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals in Mexico City and that's considered one of

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Speaker 1: the Rams, interestingly enough, they have nine home games, plus

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Speaker 1: they play the Chargers on a quote road game, and

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Speaker 1: seven road games for the Rams. Right, but you're defending

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Speaker 1: they do have a hard schedule. Well, they play three

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Speaker 1: assume Warren thinks it's easier for Cincinnati. Um. And all

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Speaker 1: You know, Warren comes up with these strengths and schedules

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Speaker 1: some interesting nuggets there too. But like I want to

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Speaker 1: the schedule here real quick. Week one a one o'clock

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