1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast as it missed the playoffs 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: in over ten years. Iron Men from the Chris Westling 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: podcast studio. It's around the NFL. If you if I 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: sound intense, if I sound especially focused, it's because it's 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: the divisional playoffs. Recap app Dan hanss Gregg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Let's go. So we talk about that this is the 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: show about football, but with just a little bit of mirth. 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: That's the touch. No mirth today, It's all football. This 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: is serious. That's the way Gregor, like said, could take 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: the mirth part out, take anything having to not do 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: with football out of the show, cornels into data analytics. 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: Should he have gone for it? Should he have punted? 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: That's what I want to talk about for the next 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: forty four minutes. We we actually need a little like 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: extra mirth because there weren't quite as many crazy game 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: situations as a normal division around. Speaking as a spoiled 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: little football baby here as we um not a NEPO 18 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: baby though, as we hyped up heading into the weekend, 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: this is traditionally the best weekend of football, and we 20 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: saw they were exciting kind of outcomes that came out 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: of this let's say, for instance, we're gonna get to 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: it in just a minute, Joe Burrow looking like a 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: man possessed with one goal in mind that he will 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: not be stopped, the Niners defense flexing on a you know, 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: after all the offensive flexing in recent weeks, Like we 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: have four big time Super Bowl worthy teams playing next weekend. 27 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: But to Greg's point, Mark, maybe the games at not 28 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: at the level we expected suspense wise. I I don't 29 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: always mean to come against like the you're the two 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: of you's opinion on things, but it's like, I don't 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: need these games to be the I don't need it 32 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: to the best we can because what I like about 33 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: it is the four best teams won absolutely. And there's 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: been a couple a f C NFC title game scenarios 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: that have been a little flaky over the years because 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: someone surged into the place where they didn't totally belong. 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: I think these four teams completely belong. I thought Niners 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys was an incredible my kind of game, and I 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: kind of like seeing a team like the Bengals just 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: drop the hammer they did and basically announced who they are. 41 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, So there's different ways to evaluate it as 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: a quality or non quality product. We didn't We didn't 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: know that you really like that last game because you 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: didn't watch it with us. We were in the theater, 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: just me and Greggy. I'm sorry to missing it, Absolutely 46 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: excited about we kept. I find that the way to 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: keep the show the freshest to come in out of nowhere. 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: Now and speaking. It's true because if when he's in 49 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: the film room so many Mark takes, it's just spoke. 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: It's more that I'm hearing everyone else's takes the entire time, 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: so I've not had to I'm coming in completely fresh. 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: All right. Well that's another way to look at it. 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: And now we're going to dig into all the games, 54 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: and why don't we start with what I think was 55 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: even though it didn't end as like a barn burner, 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: what felt like the most important game of the week, 57 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: the one that everyone had circle Bengals bills from Orchard Park. 58 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Let's go shotgun staff short dropped by Burrow, the pressure 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: comes from the left. He throw come on, Chase straight 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: ahead into the end zone. I touchdown on the opening 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: drive for Cincinnati. Twenty eight yard throw. Chase reached up 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: at the eight, caught it, and Ray straight ahead into 63 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: the end zone. So why would we pick the first 64 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: real highlight of the game, the first touchdown, because that 65 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of was the game. The Cincinnati Bengals went to 66 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo and made the Bills look like a middling outfit 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: to ten win. Joe Burrow connected three touchdown passes and 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati defense give it up for Captain lou who 69 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: should be getting head coach in or but he's not. 70 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely made life hell for Josh Allen and company and 71 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: Greggy at Cincinnati. Back to the a f C title game, 72 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: marks your point at the top of the show. Last 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: year it was Cincinnati. They were the team that stormed 74 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: the gates and showed up Championship weekend and then won 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: a game in Championship Weekend. Uh. This time it's a 76 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: different field, Sincinni. They feel like a powerhouse, Greggy that 77 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: is now cresting and becoming a league superpower. As that 78 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: game we're on and it became obvious the Bills were 79 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: not going to make that comeback, I just thought, like, 80 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: what a long way we are from west of this 81 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: the early morning slot where our friend Chris Wesleyan would 82 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: route on his old team to lose because he just 83 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: knew what was gonna happen in a painful way. To 84 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: this team, which is now put together five playoff wins 85 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: in the last two years, that you have ultra confidence 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: that they're not only going to rise to the level 87 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: of the moment, but that they're coaching staff will too. 88 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: I mean, put me in a polo show for my 89 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: analysis on Zach Taylor over the last couple of years, 90 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: because I think this team won the game in the 91 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: first quarter to your point, a hundred sixty five yards 92 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: to eight. That touchdown to Chase was Burrow stepping up 93 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: in the pocket. The next touchdown, all the attention goes 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: to Chase in the red zone where they fake it 95 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: to him. It's an easy past to hers. They're just 96 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: throwing every formation, it's motion, it's running out of pass 97 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: sets and the reverse. It's just a clinic and they're 98 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: clearly uh the class of these two teams. I think 99 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: they would have beat him a few weeks ago. We 100 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: never got to find out, and they were set to 101 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: prove it today. I thought that too. I thought this 102 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: was the game we didn't get to see because that 103 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: started out very simply because the Bengals are one of 104 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: the best opening drive teams in the entire league. And 105 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: I think that the coaching staff has grown because a 106 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: year ago they had their online issues, uh and they 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: couldn't adjust, and it was like Burrow saved them. Situation 108 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: up to situation, they have them all over again. You've 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: got Jackson Carmen to turn twenty three today, first start 110 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: ever left tackle. You've got Max Slurp sharpening in there 111 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: and a chemodentity and then Ted Harris is playing banged 112 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: up the entire time. We went into this game thinking 113 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: all week long, that's the Achilles heel, this might undo 114 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals entirely. Instead, coming out of this game, the 115 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: Bills were pushed around entirely on both sides of the ball. 116 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: The Bengals, I thought, finally on the ground. I mean, 117 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: they've been a fishing on the ground, but they were 118 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: powerful on the ground as this thing went along. Their secondary, 119 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: the Bill secondary, because of all this, I thought, played 120 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: one of the injuries. But they played one of the 121 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: worst games in a long time. Because you set up, 122 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: you set up Burl for the shots down field. Jamaar 123 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: Chase was brilliant and in the end, like I know, 124 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: the Bills they're at home they were presumed all year 125 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: long to truly be the best team in the a 126 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: f C, if not once or twice maybe taken over 127 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: by Kansas City. They didn't show up. This is not 128 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: a Bill's story, it's a Bengals one. Uh. And Joe Burrow, 129 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: I think is at the center of everything, including the 130 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: line holding up so well. He plays a major role there. 131 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: And and Cincinnati, you know, I think, and we're gonna 132 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 1: get to the Bills and and what this loss means 133 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: for them and where they are as an organization. But 134 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: for Cincinnati after coming some close, so close to winning 135 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year, now to get back now 136 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: to the a f C title game, and the level 137 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: of confidence that this team plays with wherever they are, 138 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: whoever they're against, is a direct reflection of the guy 139 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: behind center, who is one of one and I think 140 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: a generational talent and a guy that I just don't 141 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: picture losing a game this year. After the game, you 142 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: want to talk about different motivations, what teams use. They 143 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: weren't happy after the Damar Hamlin episode about how things 144 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: worked out with the Ravens and the coin toss hoacum 145 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: and then not even being in the in the mix 146 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: and the discussion about where, you know, how things shake out. 147 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: If there's an a f C title game like they're 148 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: gonna be in Kansas City, it would have been a 149 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: neutral site game if it was Casey Buffalo, like everyone presumed, 150 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: and I think they've used that as motivation. Here is 151 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow after the game talking to CBS about that 152 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: very topic. For everyone talking about a neutral AFC championship game, 153 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: not even thinking about you, guys, how much did that 154 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: motivate you coming into this? You better send those refunds. 155 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just I mean, the whole team feeds 156 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: off that guy. Uh. He's pretty special. The accuracy was 157 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: so good, and you're right that he makes that line 158 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: look better. I think the snow helped. I think the 159 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: snow not that the Bengals wouldn't have won this game, 160 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: probably going away either way, but I just think it 161 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: it's harder to rush the passer. But then you look 162 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: at the other side, and the Bengals had a better 163 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: pass rush, uh than Buffalo did. Their offensive line in 164 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo was certainly worse in terms of their run blocking 165 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: and their pass blocking, and it's Burrows decision making and 166 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: figuring it all out. That's different between him and Josh Allen, 167 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: and people want to go right into like, well, you 168 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: gotta put Joe Burrow at number two. Now Allen's at 169 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: number three, Like who cares in this game? Like Burrow 170 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: was clearly superior. And part of it is when the 171 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: bills are in that too, safety look employers back there. 172 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: He's had a couple of bad games. He was very 173 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: willing and able to find the open receivers quickly and 174 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: when he saw one safety back there, or he checked 175 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: to the run play like all the decisions were just 176 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: spot on, Like you're you're right there, not that, not 177 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: that you're the only one to think that Joe Burrow 178 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: is is this special. That's sort of sort of what 179 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: I get to when I think about the difference between 180 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: now and West of It. It's like they're the opposite 181 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: of West of this their clutch, Like they're like team 182 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: that you just expect is going to show up in 183 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: the big moments. I mean, he opened nine for nine, 184 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: He didn't really throw an off ball until I think 185 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: it's a couple of minutes into the fourth quarter. Just 186 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: to show up in this moment in a hostile environment 187 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: with weather that can even everything and to be what 188 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was today, It's like he is that guy. 189 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: He's already arrived thirty thirty first downs in this game, 190 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: and they would have had four more points if they 191 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: had given Jamar Chase that touchdown. Is also that that 192 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: was because how what are we? How are we actually 193 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: overturning that? That was late in the first half, so 194 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: it should have been really with Burrow having three touchdown 195 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: pass for the first step, they didn't need the points anyway. 196 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: And I don't want us to lose the big picture 197 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: as well, because while the offense deserves credit uh and 198 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: Burrow deserves credit, the defense held one of the top 199 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: offenses in the league two season low ten points in 200 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: their building, and Tony Romo, um uh you know calling 201 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: this game, Uh he was. He was pointing out that 202 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: this was really gonna at the conditions, The slick field 203 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: was really gonna hurt Buffalo's defense and their ability to 204 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: react and play the defense that they wanted to play, 205 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: play a scheme they wanted. But that goes both ways. 206 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't like that disappeared when Buffalo had the ball, 207 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: so Cincinnati had no problem shutting down Josh Allen and 208 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: making the stops, and and I thought that was notable too, 209 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Like this is the second year in a row. UM. 210 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: Even last year, if we want to say that now, 211 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: the coaching staff deserves credit. Even last year they found 212 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: a way to make the most of what they had 213 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: and they nearly won the Super Bowl. This is this 214 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: is a total team effort coaching staff. And I don't 215 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: just I don't see how this team going forward against 216 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, a team that they've really outplayed. 217 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: They're underdogs barely to hear that starts to not matter 218 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: to me at all, because it's just simply the Kansas 219 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: City reputation and we're going to get to field. That's 220 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: one of the three past meetings against Kansas City, including 221 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: a game last month. This team is on fire and 222 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: and now it's certain to the Bills. UM, because I 223 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: want to share something I saw and reported after the game. 224 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: You saw Stefan Diggs on the fourth quarter kind of 225 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: shouting and he's an emotional guy, who've seen this before, UM, 226 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: shouting at Josh Allen who kind of was just keeping 227 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: his eyes on his iPad, UM, excuse me, his Microsoft 228 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: Service tablet. Good joby on the bed and not even 229 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: make a gin contact. Like I've been here before, I'm 230 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: just not gonna I'm gonna shut him out right, shot 231 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: him out right now. Um. It was reported after the 232 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: game that Diggs was so upset he was spotted leaving 233 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: the locker room with much of his uniform on shortly 234 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: after the game ended, but had to be coaxed back 235 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: into the locker room by a teammate. And that is 236 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: pure frustration. After that, that's that is pure frustration for 237 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: when you reach where the Bills reached last year, they 238 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: were perfectly set up as the team that's a team 239 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: on the rise, a juggernaut on the rise, that suffers 240 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: a terrible loss where they play their hearts up and 241 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: just barely get beat and then the next step has 242 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: to be the super Bowl. And I think that weighed 243 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: on this team throughout the season. And then you factor 244 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: in the weird stuff with two games being affected by 245 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: weather of course, of course Hamlin and everything that went 246 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: on there, and there's no other way to look at it. 247 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: This season is a big disappointment for Buffalo, and you 248 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: get why the you know Diggs was and I'm sure 249 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: many other players the way they were after it was over. Yeah, 250 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and Josh Allen basically said, I don't care 251 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: how anyone views that. It's a complete failure, because that 252 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: you when you become one of these teams, like there's 253 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: nothing to take away. You aren't the Jacksonville Jaguars dancing 254 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: into the off season with a bunch of ribbons around 255 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: your neck because of what, no what, no one thought 256 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: you'd get here. That Bills have done less than we thought. 257 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: And I find it kind of stunning the way they 258 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: collapse today because it is uncharacteristic in many of the categories. 259 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if anyone said the score, I would have thought, well, finally, 260 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: the Josh Allen turnovers probably caught them, caught up to them, 261 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: cost them points and help Cincinnati with some short fields. 262 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: That wasn't the issue at all. He wasn't great. I mean, 263 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: they're big playoffense, downfield, completely dried up. It's always easy 264 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: to focus on Burrow, Jamaar Chase, the offense, even the 265 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: offensive line showing up when people thought that when it's 266 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: this Bengals defense week after week they completely turned Buffalo 267 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: into a nothing, nothing operation, nothing operation like that. Let's 268 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: hear from Josh our goals to a super Bowl World 269 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: Championship and we didn't accomplish that. So everything that happened 270 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: the season is kind of no one void in our minds, 271 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: and um, it sucks. It's the old Steinbrenner doctrine. Anything 272 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: short of a championship is failure, and that's pretty crazy 273 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: when it's the Bills we're talking about that have never 274 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. But that's kind of the position 275 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: they're in. It's kind of a tough airspace to live in. 276 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: I think that's a hard place to be it and 277 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: it's why even at the time that moment a year ago, 278 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: where all they have to do is have a seveteran 279 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: defense led by Sean McDermott that he's built up for 280 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: years get off the field in thirteen seconds. Yeah, and 281 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: I think they would have won the Super Bowl. Will 282 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: that will never know because that team was peaking. And 283 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: to me, this doesn't change anything about how I feel 284 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: about the Bills long term. I think they have certain 285 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: decisions to make. I never thought that there were some 286 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: overwhelming favorite this year. I thought they were one of 287 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: about five teams that could win and I felt like 288 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: their time though, because time runs out on this stuff. 289 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: That's why but not now. It's not just automatically we 290 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: ticket you as the best team in football all over again. Sure, 291 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: but they as long as they have josh On in 292 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: this coaching staff and in a good solid base, I'm 293 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: not worried about them being one of the contenders. Losing 294 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: Von Miller was massive for them, Losing Micah Hyde was massive. 295 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: Their defense was more disappointing I think today, even than 296 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: their offense. They could not get off the field. Like 297 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: we talked about the offensive line thing. Three quarterback hits 298 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: for them, whereas the Bengals had eight and um scoring 299 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: ten with Alan. It is something McDermott complains about even 300 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: when they win, is that they just don't have a 301 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: running game. And they definitely did not have a running game, 302 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: and I just think they were out coach. That's when 303 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I say when they have such a great coaching staff, 304 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: both offense and defense. For Cincinnati, like changed up what 305 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: they were doing like every drive, whether it was the 306 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: disguise looks, whether it's blitzing and then not blitzing. It's 307 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: just like kept mixing it up and the Bills never 308 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: felt comfortable. Yeah, the bond Miller absence talked about it 309 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: on Thursday, how that could really hurt them potentially, and 310 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: the numbers they dropped a data point during the telecast 311 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: that they were I think top five. I've and pass 312 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: rush when he went out on Thanksgiving against the Lions 313 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: and they dipped after he had left. In this game, 314 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: they were dying for someone make a play, someone get 315 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: to Burrow and and they just couldn't do it. And 316 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: again that's a credit all sort of that offensive line 317 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, which put together an effort that nobody expected, 318 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: absolutely and they were dominant, you know, in in blasting 319 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: open holes in the run game. But Buffalo, I thought 320 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: early on looked kind of desperate to get that rush 321 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: on Burrow and that open, wide open Jamaar Chase touchdown 322 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: to go up seven. Nothing was against the blitz and 323 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: Burrows deadly against the blitz. And it's like, I keep 324 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: going back to what the Bills could have been in 325 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: that opening game that we went to against the Rams, 326 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: and maybe it's because we were there in person, but 327 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: all of that happened without blitzing. It was natural, organic 328 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: pass rush and in this case, when you have to 329 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: go do that against Burrow, he made them pay right away. 330 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: I thought he set the tone, and you've got a 331 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: Bill's team that has played in these elements. I don't 332 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: want to hear about this defense not knowing how to 333 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: react and snow. It's like you practice in this, you 334 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: live in this, you walked down, you have done your 335 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: driveway in this every day. I'm so do the Bengals 336 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: though too. They live in this weather too, And there's 337 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: it's not like a team who before that came up 338 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: and did it. But to me, it was almost the 339 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: run game defense that was that was even worse. And 340 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: I do think that's where McDermott will have to I 341 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: don't know, he's not gonna change who he is. But 342 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: their defense has been a problem in the playoffs three 343 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: straight years. I mean, that is the reason that they 344 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: got the doors blown off them in the a f 345 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: C Championship game two years ago. It's what totally collapsed 346 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: last year. And if they paid von Miller address and 347 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: and they've been great in regular seasons, and if Allen 348 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: had played a great game today and their offense had 349 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: showed up, I think it would have been a good game. 350 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: I still wouldn't have much faith that they would have won. 351 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: Like even if Alan, I think the thing is like 352 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: last year we came out in the defense, they were 353 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: culpable for what happened, and yet it was like, oh, 354 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: we've got to change the overtime. Everyone's freaking out understanding 355 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: about the overtime ruling. We didn't get to see Josh 356 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: Allen go do it again this time. It's like I 357 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: can point to eight things that are just simply on 358 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: the Bills not showing up in this game. Yep. And uh, 359 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: behind the glass, our friend Parker is a big Bills fan. 360 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: And you know Mark how Greg always knows the right 361 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: thing to say to people. Um. Undoubtedly he made the 362 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: comment that you know you you never know, you might 363 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: not be back for ten years in the playoffs and 364 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: although Greg, as usual, Greg could have used a softer touch. Um, 365 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: the truth is the thirteen seconds last year. Um. Is 366 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: it a perfect example because then you see what happened 367 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: this year. There are no promises how long your windows 368 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: stays open. And you hope, if you're a Bills fan, 369 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: that this will continue, but man, it doesn't. There's only 370 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: a few years you get here. Look at history, look 371 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: at football history. I can't think again, like you you 372 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: like whether or not you think you can separate it. 373 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: Your experience is the Patriots experience. Now, I get it. 374 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm the one who always says this, and I agree 375 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: with you. I did just say it that you might 376 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: not be back. But I do look at Josh Allen 377 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: in a similar way to Burrow and uh Mahomes. I 378 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: don't think he's at that level consistency wise, but maybe 379 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: a little closer to a John Elway in that the 380 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: window is open while Josh Allen is there. And I 381 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: believe in the way they've built this team up and 382 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: the coaching staff and everything. So they might have their 383 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: ups and downs. But if you tell me, like they 384 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: finally get there in six years, like that's all a winner. 385 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: It's evergreen because of Alan. But then what were we 386 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: saying ten years ago about Aaron Rodgers doesn't mean it 387 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you get there. They need to pick better, 388 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: They have think the things that well, their innocence is lost. 389 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: Now they went from plucky Buffalo team to powerful Buffalo 390 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: team and we're still thinking, Wow, this is young and 391 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: new and they can maybe win two or three of these. 392 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: Now it's like that's what Cincinnati is now. Suddenly you 393 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: got usurped by Cincinnati, not young man anymore marks even 394 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: older than us. Well, I don't feel older than you. 395 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: You you blink and he'll be thirty five years old. 396 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, the career, you think it's forever. 397 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: But if if this, if this phase of Bills doesn't work, 398 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: they have to retool that starts to build the pressure. 399 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: It just you. You hope they get there because the 400 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: fan base deserves it. But this series, this season is 401 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: a disappointment, no doubt about it. Joe Burrow said of 402 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: the game, domination from start to finish. That's what we expected. 403 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: Jobs not finished. But let's give who locked this up? 404 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: West Bros. Ah, that's a nice lock and it's a 405 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: locker from the heart. Um by Nick making the executive 406 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: decision because he sent us the text doing it all. Yeah, 407 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Zoo and yeah, they were all over the place. Amazingly. 408 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: Even one of the Wesleyan brothers picked the Bills as 409 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: a lock zo. Yeah, this is surprising. It's an animal asylum. Um. 410 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: Let's give the last word to Zach Taylor, the head 411 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: coach who might be going to back to back Super Bowls. Uh. 412 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: He turned up the snark here and apologized for being 413 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: a logistical pain in the ass to the NFL for 414 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: the neutral Yeah. We we just we had our mind 415 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: set to go point Kansas City and and uh, it is. 416 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: It is tough because they're they're have to formulate the 417 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: plans for corny tosses and they got to formulate the 418 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: plans for neutral site games. And we just keep screwing 419 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: it up for everybody. And I hate that people that 420 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: have to endure all those logistical issues and then we 421 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: just keep screwing it up. So I'm sorry. Oh, Wisenheimer. Eisenheimer, 422 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: Let's take a break and we'll we'll talk about the 423 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: team that they'll be playing in the a f C 424 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: title game. Welcome back. I do not like high ankle sprains. 425 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: Never had one myself, but I find them to be 426 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: deeply annoying from a football fan experience. And and it did. 427 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: It popped up in two games this weekend with two 428 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: key players. Greggy maybe the most important figure in the NFL, 429 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: the presumptive m v P, had to play through a 430 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. But he would not be denied or 431 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of a Chris Berman set up there 432 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: to the highlight homes again, that right ankle is the 433 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: one that's bothering him, that's in front of the laft 434 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: feat stagger. Mahomes now steps up in the pocket, throws 435 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: lightning wide open back of the end zone, touchdown Terence 436 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: City Mark Quez he scantling on a six yard touchdown, 437 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: but Mahomes paid the price. State in the pocket and 438 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: a jump throw on that bad right ankle. Patrick Mahomes 439 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: on one good leg got it done. Mitch Holtis with 440 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: the call w d A F Mahomes after suffering that 441 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: high ankle, spraying through for a hundred ninety five yards 442 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. He finished with the second, capping of 443 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: seventy five yard drive late in the fourth quarter. It 444 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: allowed the Chiefs to get past the Jaguars an twenty win. 445 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: My goodness, the Chiefs during the ABC title game for 446 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: the fifth straight year and Mark Sessler obviously Mahomes his 447 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: health is a major question mark going forward. We expect 448 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: him to play, but what level Patrick Mahomes will we 449 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: get next week? That remains to be seen. I mean, 450 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: if you want to take him at his word, he 451 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: basically vowed that he'd play, and I mean, I thought. 452 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: One thing that I do love about Mahomes is that 453 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: his passion is not false. I think we feel that 454 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: way with some athletes where it's like you're doing a 455 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: lot for the camera and stuff. With Mahomes like literally 456 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: jawing with Andy Reid on the sideline like I want 457 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: to go back in that thing, and Andy Reid's like, 458 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: you gotta go back and get If it's negative, you're 459 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: back in. And so that was where that Chad Henny 460 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: period came in. And Chad Henny, this is what he 461 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: does every couple of years, rolls into the divisional round, 462 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: does enough good stuff to keep it, keep employed. And 463 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: he does to Browns, he did it to the Jaguars, 464 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 1: and Mahomes came back in. I just think it's like 465 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: one of these things where, uh, you know, there aren't 466 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: that many guys like Mahomes on any level. We keep 467 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: trying to find new ways to describe him. Here's a 468 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: new one. He did it completely differently in this game. 469 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: And I just look at this Chief's offense, which is 470 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: so different in many ways than the past versions we've seen. 471 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: And you guys got guys like Isaiah Pacheco and Darius 472 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: Tony making a bigger impact. They haven't even peaked yet, 473 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Like their their offense and who they are is still 474 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: like on a weekly basis adding new people to the 475 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: mix like they it was Travis Kelsey and I think 476 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: was you could be a little concerned that, like you 477 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 1: don't have a wide receiver really step up for big 478 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: yardage in this but they just got it done. It's 479 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: like I think this these two teams were fairly slotted 480 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: for where they wound up nice effered by the Jaguars. 481 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: But the Chiefs just they've been doing this all year. 482 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: They're not gonna blow your doors off psychologically if you're 483 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 1: a viewer, They're gonna get it done right. I mean, 484 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the number one offense in the league 485 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: for the season by a decent amount based on basically 486 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: any metric for a reason, and they started that game 487 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: this way. They went to halftime and yet Chad hen 488 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: he played an entire uh series there touchdown, field, go touchdown. 489 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: And you have a quarterback in Mahomes who I think 490 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: in this game showed how much he's matured since when, 491 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: by the way, he was the best quarterback in the 492 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: league then too, because I don't know if he wins 493 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: this game the same sort of way, because that first 494 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: drive and a half. He made more plays just completely 495 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: on his own then I think any quarterback in the 496 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: league could. I was listening to it initially on the radio. 497 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: It was a little late coming home from the Zoo. 498 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: Zoo always takes a little longer than you think. The 499 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's not the Cincinnati Zoo, the l A Zoo. Very underrated. Nice, 500 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: nice family morning on the on the day of the 501 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: divisional playoffs. I know you can catch up on on 502 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: game Pass, and so I was listening on the first quarter, 503 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: listening to Trent Green, and it's like, you know, ming 504 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: didn't really make it sound like it was that crazy. 505 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: And when I went back to watch the first quarter, 506 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, every one of these Mahomes plays is insane. 507 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: It was only because it was Patrick Mahomes. They scored 508 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: those ten points. And then after that, it's the decision 509 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: making and it's the maturity and getting rid of the 510 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: ball out quickly. The fact to me that he could 511 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: win the game in both kind of ways to speaks 512 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: to his greatness and why I definitely am not counting 513 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: them out this weekend, Like like it sounds like you're 514 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: doing is a strong thing to do with any team 515 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: in the idle game and if Mahomes is involved, even 516 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: at or whatever, I still give him a chance. Um 517 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: do I like Sincinnati, Yes, I do like them to 518 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl, But yeah, I thought, you know, 519 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: the Mahomes side of it, Um I did. We mentioned 520 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: Henny he was the quarterback against the Browns a couple 521 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: of years ago. He shows up every divisional round, every 522 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: couple and so it's great to have a guy that 523 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: you can count on, especially this time of year, if 524 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: if you need it. But yeah, I thought that for me, 525 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: this game was like a reminder that they're not just 526 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. You know that this defense, which you know, 527 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: was facing a Jaguars team that was playing with house money, 528 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: that went in there knowing nobody was going to pick 529 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: him to win, and they had scored on five straight 530 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: possessions in their previous game, uh to have over a 531 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: historic comeback, and they just shut They shut down Trevor 532 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: Lawrence and that offense for the most part. And I 533 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of credit that needs to be 534 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: handed out to Chris Jones and that whole team as 535 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: well on that side of the ball. I mean, if 536 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: I the Jaguars side of it, like if you there 537 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: was a moment when Henny was there and he threw 538 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: that near interception to fo A lout Khan. Had he 539 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: had that been picked off, that would have changed this game. 540 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: But that interception has dropped later in the game, jamalag Knew, 541 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: who was sensational as a kick returner and has been 542 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: for a while, and put them in position to make 543 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: a difference. Had that killer fumble that at the at 544 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: the d at the Chiefs five or whatever, which basically 545 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: changes that possession, made three with about eight minutes to 546 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: gret and then you get the Lawrence the next possession, 547 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: you get the Trevor Lawrence interception, which just shows you like, 548 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: this is sometimes the Chiefs this year, because it's like, 549 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: had those things gone differently, just a couple inches here 550 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: and there, Jacksonville is in this thing at the very end, 551 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: and then there're a freaky operation. This was a winnable game. 552 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: I think if Jaguars are getting that um bump from 553 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 1: losing a playoff game like this, they went further than 554 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: you could ever expect. They were three and seven. I 555 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: get it. But this is game in particular is frustrating 556 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: because it was winnable. That chat Hanny drive. It showed 557 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: great confidence in Andy Reid to throw the ball out 558 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: in first down out of his own end zone. You 559 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: know that the past was for a touchdown. He ultimately 560 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: through for three yards per attempt. The key person in 561 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: that drive was Checo picking up eight yard gains on 562 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: first down. He had the thirty nine yard run. And 563 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: these are like power runs too. So to your point, Dan, 564 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: the pass rush was better than the Jaguars pass rush 565 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: where they've spent a lot of money. The Chiefs was 566 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: the running game. Both teams ran the ball well, but 567 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: certainly the Chief's ability to run the ball kept them 568 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: alive in that game. In that drive, like it was 569 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: an entire team. And I think that that says to 570 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: me that this this can be a championship team. And 571 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: it's gotta just be bitter sweet right now for the Chiefs, 572 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: that that at best, homes is gonna my homes is 573 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: gonna be like next week. Because I thought it was 574 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: impressive that you have my homes who can't move and 575 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: he's just gotta get the ball out quick. For a 576 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: big chunk of that game, that that if you're even 577 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: if you're Jacksonville good defense, they've evolved over the course 578 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: of the year, but you're catching up to that in 579 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: real time. And what Kansas City is gonna do. I 580 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: like Cincinnati's chances if you're gonna get amobile eyes Mahomes, 581 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: I just assume he's going to magically be like better, 582 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: because that seems to be what happens with Mahomes. I thought, again, Romo, 583 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: when they're just at this point, kill him time at 584 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: the end of the Bengals game talking about what's going 585 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: on with Mahomes, and you know, he said that he 586 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: had suffered high ankle sprains before and it's something that 587 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: you could play through the day it happens. But then 588 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: he was like the next day, like today, Mahomes probably 589 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: can't even walk. He's probably on crutches, and you know, 590 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: I missed my next game after high ankle sprain. Mahomes 591 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: obviously is a different person. We then heard like later 592 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: reporting that like Mahomes feels better, and the chief set 593 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: he feels better than they expect. What happened with you 594 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: in your high ankle sprain? This will be notable. I 595 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: think to the who, what, like, what happened with your 596 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: body when you had a high ankle spring? I would 597 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: like to set at the top of this seg I 598 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: never suffered one. I did thought you said you thought 599 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: you had suffering, had not, and that you skipped a 600 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: week or something. No, I said Tony Romo, CBS announcer, Well, 601 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: I I was starting to think you were talking about yourself. 602 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's um. But Romo basically said that, yeah, 603 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: this is going to be a major issue, that he's 604 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: gonna be immobile if he plays, he will play, But 605 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: I think that's obviously such a major subplot now moving forward. 606 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: He let's hear from Mahomes what he had to say. Um, 607 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: after the game about his physical status. It feels better, 608 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: and I mean it was and better than I thought 609 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: it was gonna be. Now. Um, obviously a lot of 610 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: adrenaline on right now, so we'll see how it fills. 611 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: But I'll hop right in the treatment tonight tonight and 612 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: try to do whatever I can to be Uh, it's 613 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: close by next week. But luckily for us, we played 614 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: the early game on Saturday, so we get an extra 615 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: almost half a day that I can let that ankle rest. 616 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: He's he's just like an excited kid. Yeah, he's funny, 617 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence on the other side, UM basically looks 618 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: at a central casting like either like a villain in 619 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: an eighties movie or like what you imagine like a 620 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: quarterback a star quarterback, or should look like homes looks different. 621 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of UM, that sounds different. Speaking of Trevor Lawrence, 622 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: here's what he had to say after the first playoff 623 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: loss of his NFL career. They worked so hard to 624 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: get here, and nobody thought we were going to be here, 625 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: and you know, we had our shot, and that's what hurts, 626 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, So we'll be back. I'm confident in that. 627 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: And this isn't this is this is more the beginning 628 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: than it is the end of something. Um, this is 629 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: just getting started for us. So we got a taste 630 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: of it. And I mean the guys already hungry to 631 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: get this opportunity again if they did a Varsity Blues reboot. 632 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: He's mocks like he is, but I think this is 633 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: so like dying. I mean, first of all, like the 634 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: Jaguars are one of the better stories of the year. 635 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: I've got eight we have like eight or nine Coach 636 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: of the Year candidates, but Peterson's got a suddenly became 637 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean, is here's the thing. Are they piste off 638 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: at this last Like, I think it's such a polar 639 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: spectrum opposite and it's rightfully so. Can I say we 640 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of years ago at the Browns and 641 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: that feeling like a missed opportunity because you had any 642 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: in the game and my homes out and they couldn't 643 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: find a way that that day, and I had the 644 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: Jags are thinking the same thing, like, we had this 645 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: guy out of the game for the second quarter basically, 646 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: and then he was half of his usual self for 647 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: the rest of the game and we couldn't steal these 648 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: again again the Jags another team like, uh, it feels 649 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: like just the beginning for them. Said, but at the 650 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: same time, you never know when your opportunity to make 651 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: that deep run to be the Bengals of last year 652 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: is and they didn't get it done in this spot 653 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: now and the but the Brown's head Baker Mayfield, and 654 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: the Jaguars have Trevor Lawrence, and even Trevor Lawrence has 655 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: to be more excited about the Jaguars because they have 656 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence right they they couldn't get any shot plays 657 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: throughout the game, you know, until late in the game. 658 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: Lawrence was averaging like under four yards per tempt. I 659 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: thought they got away from the run like way too quickly, 660 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: which is not something you would have expected out of 661 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: Peterson the average seven point six yards per carrying that game, 662 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: Like both teams from most of this game, we're averaging 663 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: more yards on the ground per play than they were 664 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: throwing the ball. Even the Chiefs were through like three 665 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: quarters of this game and Lawrence was like making two 666 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: quick decisions and that the pass rush was winning for 667 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. And it did feel not like a teacher 668 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: pupil thing, but it felt like the Chiefs were very 669 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: zeroed in on where the Jaguars were bad, which was 670 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: on the second level of their defense. Like they drafted 671 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd and they benched them halfway through the season 672 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: for for Chad Muma and those two guys heads were 673 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: spinning and they just were getting destroyed by Travis Kelsey 674 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 1: fourteen catches yards to touchdowns, I mean, just the outrageous 675 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: caught every single pass to him that was like within 676 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: ten yards of the line of scrimmage thirteen thirty. It's 677 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: one of the weird things that actually, like meet out 678 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: from the Thursday Show where the Jaguars are the worst 679 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: team in the league ins tight ends, and then Trevis 680 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: Skelsey goes completely nuclear on them. Um, what about that 681 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey versus Grant conversation? Stacking up these games in 682 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs too? I find it. I find it very annoying. 683 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: So I brought it up. Yeah, I think I don't 684 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: think it is. I don't think it is, just because 685 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: they were in the league. They were at the same time, 686 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: and it's like one was, you know, clearly the best 687 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: tight end in the league while the other one was 688 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: pretty much at the peak of his powers. That you 689 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: used the same argument to say that Brady is the 690 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: best quarterback ever. I actually that's where I wouldn't. It 691 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: depends how you define it. He's accomplished the most. But 692 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: to me, my Homes is already the best quarterback ever. 693 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: Well that's your opinion just in terms of like playing 694 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: the position at the at the highest. Guess then I'm 695 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: probably picking the Bengals. I don't know. I mean, just 696 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: because we're all over the map here, thought like this game, no, 697 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I think I think this went. Oh yeah, Bucker, 698 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: your boy game wasn't even the top ten of the 699 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: right had a rough year, but I think he was 700 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,959 Speaker 1: one of the key reasons they won this game. Didn't 701 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: miss a kick to field, goes to uh tackles, I 702 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: mean to extra points. But then the tackle on Agnew 703 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: was a massive got it the tackle and then ag 704 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: Knew accidentally as He'll kicked under his face mask and 705 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: he got tripped by a face mask at all. He 706 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: doesn't it help at all? It all counts in the box. 707 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: Scar if you're if you're Harrison Butker and you've been 708 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: having some struggles to have another kicker come into the 709 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: world and have incredible struggles will get to him later 710 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: than like Bucker's, Like no one even remembers that I 711 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: was having issues. You know what I liked if if 712 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: we're still in this game is the is the Lawrence 713 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,959 Speaker 1: moment in the in the alley on the way into 714 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: the locker room where he gets he like camps there 715 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: and his high five and everyone as they come by, 716 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: and it's just like that's a dude. You want that 717 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna be okay. That it wasn't for the cameras, 718 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: Like he didn't know anyone was watching them there, and 719 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: like everyone you could see what it meant to them 720 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: as they were going by, like take two, let's get 721 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: that well from another angle place. Take two, bigger smile, 722 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: bigger smile. Make sure this gig get this kid over here, 723 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: all right. I don't even know what you guys are 724 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,479 Speaker 1: talking about. Done exactly. You guys don't know what because 725 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: that's how I know it was in stage. It was 726 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: one local reporter because he didn't see it, caught it 727 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: on her phone and that was the only thing it was. 728 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: He kind of camped out. Um, I'm thinking, I can't 729 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: together word as they're coming off the field to greet 730 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: every single player. Next stage, I was at the zoo. 731 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: There is Bengals cheeps at Arrowhead. It's great. That's one 732 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: side on the NFC side of things. We're gonna start 733 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: with the number one seeded Eagles, who, obviously, by virtue 734 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: of the dominant regular season record, had the top seed. However, 735 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: there were a lot of questions about what Eagles team 736 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: would show up out of the by against the upstart Giants. Oh, 737 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: this one got ugly fast perch of the gone perch. 738 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: Scrange it out on the far side to Davonte Smith, 739 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: a frost the five to the Smith such a great 740 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: job job blocking by A. J. Brown, This dynamic duo, 741 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: they're as good as it gets. It was so easy 742 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: for the Eagles on Saturday night. That was Meryl Reese 743 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: and like quick w I p Jalen Hurts through two 744 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: touchdown passes, ran for another, looking very healthy in the 745 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: shoulder region as he did it, and the Eagles just 746 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: stroll past the Giants seven at the length. They built 747 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: up a twenty eight nothing halftime lead in the game. 748 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: There only been four more lopsided first half playoff shoutouts 749 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: in NFL history. So that's where we're at on this game, 750 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. The Eagles answered a lot of questions here. 751 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: They absolutely did. Like it was a total purifying experience 752 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: where it's like, let's just reset the board and remember 753 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 1: that the Philadelphia Eagles have been doing this two teams 754 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: all year long in so many different ways and the 755 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: dominant fashion that they did it in. To me, I 756 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: can point to the offense that right away, the forty 757 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: yard bomb from Hurts to DeVonta Smith showed you the 758 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: arms fine he was to making those throws even when 759 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: he had the shoulder it injury to begin with, but 760 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: he also ran with power he ran into people when 761 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: he needed to. Their ground game, it's the post yardage 762 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: they piled up in a playoff games since the nineteen 763 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: NFL Championship game featured the Eagles, and it looked that way, 764 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: and I thought the difference was also this Eagles defense. 765 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just like, again, where is the weakness here? 766 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: If everyone's healthy, they I think the Giants were the 767 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: kind of team that needed to show up early or 768 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: they could be broken in this and they really were 769 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: broken by halftime. It was kind of one of those 770 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: playoff games that, like, by about two minutes into the 771 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: second quarter, I'm tracking it maybe with less strident note 772 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: taking and just so let's see where we are later 773 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: in this game. But the Giants on their first drive 774 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: turnover on downs. When everything that's gone right for the Giants, 775 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: the Brian Dable risk taking, which is kind of part 776 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: of the DNA of who they've been. It goes back 777 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: to that Week one win over the Titans. It's happened 778 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: week after week Uh is a complete disastrous Daniel Jones 779 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: is taken down on back to back at totally outclass, 780 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: then the interception on the next drive. Suddenly it's twenty 781 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: one nothing, and it's like, no, there's no way for 782 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,240 Speaker 1: this Giants team to climb back in, say Kwan, Barkley 783 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: has gone invisible, Daniel Jones has regressed to like free 784 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: Brian Dable levels and there's no one here to rescue them. 785 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: Well no, in one game, I don't mean and he 786 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: looked like the old Daniel Jones for big chunks the 787 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: last night, which is that's what annoyed me, because I 788 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: liked what Daniel Jones has done this season. Yeah, that sequence, 789 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: there was so little tension in this game that that 790 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: sequence was memorable. When they're on defense and the Giants 791 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: first drive and it was second and five and Barkley 792 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: gets to the outside and a Son Reddick who's like 793 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: an edge player, gets him down to make it third 794 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: and three, and then a sack by Sweat and Reddick 795 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: and then another sack by Reddick, Like their defensive line 796 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: is outrageous. Reddick had just an incredible season, one of 797 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: the best free agent pickups in a long time, especially 798 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: for the money, Like he didn't even get paid that much. 799 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. He uh was out there and 800 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: on offense, the Eagles do something against the Giants every 801 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 1: time that I love, which which which Greg Olsen talks 802 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: about two you throw to win early and then run 803 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: to end the game. That the throwing sets up the running. 804 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: And they've done that every time they've played against the Giants, 805 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: and none of them have been competitive. And there are 806 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: concerns obviously entering this game about Jalen Hurts, would he 807 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: be able to throw, would he be able to play aggressively? 808 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: And he answered a lot of those questions. Here was 809 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni. We're gonna get to Sirianni in a second, 810 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: because what a Saturday night sirian Absolutely like I've I've 811 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: bumped into dudes like Sirianni at DJs and Belmar at 812 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: the clubs down in the early two thousands, like he 813 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: was a pumped up boy. But let's start with Sirianni 814 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: on his quarterback. I know this is high parade, but 815 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: to have him out there is like having h'm I 816 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't even go there, but like he's having like Michael 817 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: Jordan not there, Like he's your leader. He's your leader, 818 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: he's your guy, he's your Hopefully that's the biggest respect 819 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: I can pay to him comparing comparing to his ability 820 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: to being on the field, uh to a to a 821 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan type like this guy leads. He brings this 822 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 1: calmness to the to the entire team. He plays great football. 823 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: He's tough as as as as they come. Um yeah, 824 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean to me, ain't nobody has played a better 825 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: football than him this year. I did the channel uh 826 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: West first. Completely different than basketball, apparently not according to 827 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: Nick sirianni Um the moratorium on the m J comparisons. Um, 828 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: because unless you're talking about like the m J who 829 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: was a fierce competitor from like eighty four to ninety 830 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: but wasn't getting over the hump. What made Jordan Jordan 831 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: was on with six titles and six tries Beckham to 832 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's. So he's he did it too. I think 833 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: I probably wanted you to remind the people of that. 834 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: But you know that's where's it's a stand in for 835 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: just saying that this is the guy that everybody pounds 836 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: a table for. But I don't. I also don't think 837 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: like he is like a standout amongst the rest of 838 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: this team. I think this is the most loaded roster 839 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: in the game. Greggy, I hear you, But I think 840 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: what he was telling you, and and the teammates of 841 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts tell you too. And they said this after 842 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: this game that Hurts had some quote to all of 843 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: them just how he was starving for it. That he's 844 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: just starving for this title. And I think he is, 845 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: amongst other things, an incredible leader. And that was what 846 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: the people uh analyzing him coming out in the draft 847 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: struggled with that, just like this guy is like sort 848 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: of talked about like he's this Tim Tebow like leader, 849 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: except he actually has these athletic gifts and if he 850 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: can learn how to do a drop back passing game 851 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: and throw deep and we've we've seen it, like he 852 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: could just be next level. But you're right that he's 853 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: set up by a great offensive life. I mean, this 854 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: this was I almost feel like this game was too 855 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: easy for Philadelphia. But it's why you go. That's why 856 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: the regular season matters. You get the one seed, You 857 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: play a team that you're just so much better than 858 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 1: than than you know, and that you know all their tendencies, 859 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: and like they set up in these heavy run formations 860 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: and then they pass it, and then they set up 861 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: in these spread passing formations and then they run it 862 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 1: and it's like they're mixing up what they do on 863 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 1: on defense really well. There was that play on offense, 864 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: remember when they all lined up like they were gonna 865 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: do the double cheek push and the Giants were all 866 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: ready for it, and then they just flip it to 867 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: the outside. It's just like they've got these great players, 868 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: and you're right, Hurts is put in position where like 869 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: he he just has to do his thing. Well, I 870 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: think it is like that, we're gonna get a new 871 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: coach who's gonna completely flub his first press conference, and 872 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna it's gonna be, you know, February March. We're 873 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: gonna rip on this guy and have our time with him. 874 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: But Nick Sirianni was a disaster pr wise out of 875 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: the gate. But I think there's such a well coached team. 876 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: They completely neutralized New York's pass rush, which was their 877 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 1: selling point going into this thing. Too. With that, there's 878 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: any chance to stop the Eagles. Seventeen pass run snaps 879 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: generated zero QB pressure in the first half led to 880 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: that dominance. Hurts and his three quickest times to throw 881 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: games in his entire career have come against this year's 882 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: Giants in three games and the thing is that what 883 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: they did to New York in Week fourteen before the 884 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: Eagles were sitting people late in the Giants were It's 885 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: like the they blew their doors off in similar fashion. 886 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: This It looked very similar. They did a lot of 887 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,280 Speaker 1: the same stuff. New York knew that, and Brian Table 888 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: is a good coach and Wink Martin Dial has been 889 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: a good coach, and they couldn't counter it. It reminded 890 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: me of like Patriots Texans Divisional round, like in some 891 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: of the Texans lower years, where it was like a 892 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: light warm up for the real game. And I think 893 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: that's what's the most disappointing thing for Giants fans, because 894 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: the idea was that, coming off that dramatic win in 895 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: Minnesota and how well they were playing, that they were 896 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: going to ride that wave, and then the wave just 897 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: crashed on them within five minutes of the game starting. 898 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: Here's a Brian Dable told uh said that he told 899 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: his team after the blowout loss to him keep their 900 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: heads up. They competed hard. Um, it's a crash landing 901 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Anytime you lose, it hurts because of 902 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: the amount of effort and energy you put into it 903 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: each week, and when you lose this time of year, um, 904 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: it hurts even more. There's a lot of talk after 905 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: the game. I saw it on Twitter, I saw it 906 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: on my New York buddies with text and everything. You know, 907 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: they were confident going into this, very confident but ugly loss, 908 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: somewhat embarrassing loss. But you know, the future is really 909 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 1: bright for the Giants. Maybe I'll say this absolutely a 910 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: great first year for Dable, um, but you know, they 911 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: got in the playoffs. They beat the Vikings, who were 912 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: frauds we know, and the Colts to clinch the playoffs spot. 913 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: And this kind of was a reminder how far away 914 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: they still are and these are things that they all 915 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: need to think about spinning forward. With Daniel Jones, who 916 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: certainly did not look like a impact player in this 917 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: particular setting. Sae Kwon Barkley, a running back getting closer 918 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: to age thirty, what kind of contract do you give him? 919 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: How else do you build up this team? This isn't 920 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: like go get von Miller and we're ready to roll. 921 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: The Giants still have a lot of work to do. 922 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: Even if you could see this season as a success, 923 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean, if if anything, they went into this year 924 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: with I think they're their front office with Joe Shane 925 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: is like they're not like rose colored glasses, Like they 926 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: didn't even they didn't even give the fifth year option 927 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: to Jones. Sa Kwan Barkley was a wait and see. 928 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 1: And I do think games like this can change your 929 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: off season planning, and I don't think it changes what 930 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: they think about Daniel Jones, but any contract going his 931 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 1: way can't get in the way of continuing to look 932 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: for like the Eagles did that next quarterback they did 933 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: like they had Carson Wentz and they looked at Hurts 934 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: and then suddenly, look where we are. You're not still 935 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,720 Speaker 1: struggling trying to put the wrong guy in there. So Jones, 936 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: I think great career season. You bring them back at 937 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: the right price that that works. But like there's no 938 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: pressure that they should or might draft a quarterback high 939 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 1: because I feel like that would be weird to give 940 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: him a new deal. I'm not saying, I just like 941 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: it's the problem with these quarterback deals as they all 942 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: kind of look too much alike, where like even the 943 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: middle tiers a ton of money, but like if you 944 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 1: do where there's no guaranteed money, very soon actually great 945 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: pull because like if you if you listen to w 946 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: I P on that day, like people hated that pick, 947 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: like why would we take a quarterback when we have 948 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback? I think Jones and I would throw Gino 949 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,439 Speaker 1: into this category are the type of like middle quarterbacks, 950 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: and I think Gino's above that on some level. But 951 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: you're still gonna be looking for younger guys. And and 952 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was very circumspect, didn't really say anything, you 953 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: know when they talked about his future. Se Quon was 954 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: very big on like I can't imagine playing anywhere else. 955 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: But it reminds me a lot of the Tyrode Bill season. 956 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know if Daniel Jones will be like 957 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: they'll change quarterbacks like it. But I thought, like McDermott 958 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: and um, you know, their front office showed who they 959 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 1: were like leading up to that Tyrode season, like we're 960 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: a different Bills team, and they actually took a step 961 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: back like the next year after that, but it like 962 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: showed who they were and they were a little ahead 963 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: of schedule. And I think to your point, that's what Joe, 964 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: Shane and Davil did. It's it's a long term thing. 965 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: But they have twelve starters out of their twenty uh 966 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 1: two starters are set to hit fre Agent. Maybe a 967 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: little bit of cold water on the the Daniel Jones, 968 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: um uprising the last few weeks works out well for 969 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,760 Speaker 1: them in decisions they're making money, they end up spending 970 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: We shall see. Um, we had some blocks involved in 971 00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: this game, correct, I locked it up. This is of 972 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: those locks you enjoy. You don't have to ease do 973 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: a rocking chair game, just this. You don't have to 974 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: sweat it out. Oh and to let her letter really 975 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 1: locked it up to Yeah, that's right, and Dan did not, 976 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: which most of our listeners probably don't know now because 977 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 1: I've got The only annoying part about you switching your 978 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: tweets is like Drew our our producer, thought, uh, I 979 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: won the lock Championship. He didn't know you switched. People 980 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,879 Speaker 1: don't follow these things, well how would they unless they're 981 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: following every tweet I send in the middle of like, 982 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: I saw some people responding to what you've done. Certainly 983 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: your your Twitter follows, but that's a relatively Yeah, I'm joking. 984 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Drew got nine feet tall of you. I 985 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: should have mentioned that I had switched my Lock, but 986 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 1: I got a lot of tweets that were like, congratside 987 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: your LOCK championship. Um, well I reverse, yeah, like I 988 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: stuck with my Giants pick um, which I had no 989 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of fun. And uh, you know, 990 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: as as the season goes along, you say goodbye to teams, 991 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: you say goodbye to news developments, you say goodbye to 992 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: things that seemed they'll never go away. And I'm saying 993 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: goodbye to Lock. Standing scenario here we said goodbye to 994 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: the West best officially too on that I'm gonna gonna 995 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: talk to you something you talking about something? Go ahead, 996 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: a long time friend. You know that I would never 997 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: betray you, your family, or our alliance. It brings me 998 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: a great sorrow to know that you may feel that 999 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: I deserted you and it's time to meet. Well, you 1000 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: must understand my intentions were driven purely by survivor. I 1001 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: couldn't remain in our New York family alliance. Had to 1002 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: come into the realization that our enemy had set a 1003 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: trap in Philadelphia with the intention to laure's both to 1004 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: an early demise. I will forge on in your honor factor. 1005 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: That's a huge victory for me. I guess, um, I 1006 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,760 Speaker 1: appreciate the sentiments. Um. I did see what love Smith 1007 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,479 Speaker 1: said to his team when he played for a time. 1008 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of chatter on on 1009 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 1: Twitter about it, um my mentions just because of I 1010 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: think you tagged us on some of this or like. 1011 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: But there was one of the like. There was an 1012 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: image of like Mario brothers, Mario like jumping safely to 1013 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: a cliff and he was holding onto one like another 1014 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: character and just like let it go, and he just 1015 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: disappears into a shop. The other character's eyes well up 1016 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: before he dropped into a deathly hades. And that's what 1017 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: happened to me over the weekend. I definitely there. I 1018 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: had regrets about that, but I also I was thinking 1019 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 1: about it, like, first of all, you gave me warning, 1020 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: though I couldn't warning, it would have felt on an 1021 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: original the trophy still in my house to two back. 1022 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't need to be in a total place of 1023 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 1: desperation when Greggy's trying to trick us and to pick 1024 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: in the g men and ending the whole thing. What 1025 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: you thought to myself, you're giving me way too, said, Okay, 1026 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: he took the eagles, that's the right play two games up, 1027 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: but I don't. I'm not gonna pick a team I 1028 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: don't believe and I didn't believe in the Giants, so 1029 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 1: I went elsewhere and as a result, I am still 1030 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: alive with two weeks to play. Yeah, I don't hate 1031 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: on that at all. I mean, I think it's good 1032 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: to try to get your locks right and not take 1033 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: bad teams. So that makes total sense. It's just bad. 1034 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: It's bad showmanship to confuse the listeners. But I think 1035 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: it's the right the right pick. Well, even if it's 1036 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: good to keep them off about it's uh playing for 1037 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: the tie. You never want to do that, but it's 1038 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: better than losing a lot of listeners don't understand that 1039 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: Lock of the Week is like the game you're most 1040 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: confident in. There, like, how is it a lock if 1041 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: you change it? It's not like that season I could 1042 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone could care less about that day. 1043 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: We could revisit that down the line if it's something 1044 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,720 Speaker 1: we want to say that they have to be binding 1045 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: on the day of the show. But um, I knew 1046 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: in my heart that I had to move, and yes, 1047 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: I can only tie right now. But again, the trophies 1048 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: in my house and I didn't want to go out 1049 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: on the giants. I don't want to fall on that sword. 1050 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't blame you, can I give you one quick 1051 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: media uptake because you know it was my Like we 1052 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,439 Speaker 1: talked about the fact that I went on the little 1053 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 1: NFL dot com picks. I'm and I stress little and uh, 1054 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: I would say, because you picked the giant, I picked 1055 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 1: the giants. And you know, if that goes right suddenly 1056 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 1: to the Tri state area is just like you know, 1057 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: carrying you around town. Now I'm getting like a billion 1058 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: of those when this happens as source the old takes exposed, 1059 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: It's like do I need this? It's just like I 1060 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: just simply log off Twitter will come back in like 1061 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: mid April. Here's the thing that these social accounts have 1062 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: no accountability either. They actually sent out an article from 1063 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: bills dot com showing all the expert predictions and by 1064 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: the way, most of them were picking the bills. But 1065 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,720 Speaker 1: they took one of my quotes saying where the bills 1066 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 1: are poor and sent that out on their main feed 1067 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: and then click the link and by the way, like 1068 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: twelve out of sixteen people in that link picked the bills. 1069 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: I was not one of them. Are they gonna come 1070 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 1: back uh and apologize and point, Hey, you're right, actually 1071 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: our shortcomings on the offensive line, and actually I think 1072 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: they reiver. You expect that. I can think you can 1073 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 1: expect them to do that. I see you bills before 1074 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: we before we go on to the last game. Can 1075 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: we talk about Sirianni in that game? He was extra 1076 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not going to kill him for it. 1077 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,240 Speaker 1: Maybe when he looked in to the Cameron slow motion 1078 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: and shook his head like, yeah, I'm the mother of him. Man, 1079 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,879 Speaker 1: that one was a little extra. Um. But the whole 1080 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: game he was super amped up and excited. I think 1081 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: it's because he saw his game plan being you know, 1082 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: unfurled and and just perfection. But let's play that that 1083 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 1: when they were I think that was when they were 1084 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 1: up by five touchdowns or something, four touchdowns and they 1085 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,399 Speaker 1: line up for two and uh, is that the way 1086 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: we have here? Yeah? They line up for two? Uh, 1087 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: and then he calls time out and this is what 1088 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: we saw and heard. I know I'm allowed to be 1089 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: down here. And then he had he also had this 1090 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: to say, name checking an old friend of ours. Sometimes 1091 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: I have to hear like some things about Jonathan gannon 1092 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: like and I don't know if it's you guys, it 1093 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: might be more people. UM. I won't say names. Angelo 1094 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: all right, Uh, but this guy is an unbelievable Cordina. 1095 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 1: The fact that he doesn't get respect from our r 1096 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 1: R station blows my It blows my mind. And I 1097 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 1: know you work at the radio station too, so I'm 1098 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: not gonna say anything about you. But this guy is 1099 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: an incredible coordinator. People love to play for this guy, 1100 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: like and listen, you want me to keep going? He's 1101 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: looking over to the PR guy. That's Angelo Cataldi, by 1102 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: the way, who has been their morning guy there forever. 1103 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: I think he's retiring at the end of this year. 1104 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean, is Angelo the most powerful sports talk radio 1105 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: guy in the country. Really is an old school sports 1106 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: town where sports talk radio is still king and what 1107 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,240 Speaker 1: those guys say really does matter and years cares about 1108 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: what Zolak saying. I don't think I mean a different situations. Um. 1109 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:55,240 Speaker 1: One last one, last note on the MJ thing. Yeah, 1110 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: what's calm down? The MJ was a great teammate. He 1111 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 1: was brutal on a lot of his teammates. He commanding, 1112 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: he was sometimes demeaning. He could be cruel. He expected 1113 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: everyone to be as good as him, even though that 1114 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: was impossible, and I guess that made some guys better. 1115 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: But like Jalen Hurts, as far as I understand, that 1116 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 1: is not the type of h is much more like 1117 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: a consistent, super motivated guy that liked but he But 1118 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: if you put it, but what, we've lost a lot 1119 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 1: of the nuance of Michael Jordan's like over the years. 1120 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: I get where he's coming from. I get that you 1121 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: don't like it, but this doesn't old. I want to 1122 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: keep like the actual like what mj was, which is 1123 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: one of the great not only the greatest player ever 1124 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: but the greatest like sometimes nastiest competitors, but not a 1125 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: cancer like he was too good. He fired that team up. 1126 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean they showed up in big moments over and over, 1127 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: so he found some balance there. To your point, um, 1128 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, that's like the fourth different quarterback that's been 1129 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 1: compared to Jordan on this show this year, a loon, 1130 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,839 Speaker 1: and so they would probably completely different than basketball. Mark 1131 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:02,439 Speaker 1: said it, let's move, let's move two a break, Let's 1132 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: take a break. We'll be right back, all right. So 1133 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles move on. They will host the NFC Title 1134 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: game next weekend. Their opponent it had to be the Niners. 1135 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: You knew it was gonna be the Niners. It is 1136 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: the Niners. Steps it back to Dak Prescott. He goes 1137 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 1: over the middle of the church cree when the Boo 1138 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: partners is laughing. Forty Niners Shore going to the NFC 1139 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: Title game for a third time in the last four years. 1140 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 1: This stuff is not easy. The Chief's going five years 1141 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: in a row. God nobody wants say. Oh. Dan always 1142 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: brings it back to the Jets. The Jets have been 1143 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: to the a f C title game four times in 1144 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,280 Speaker 1: my entire life. I was born in to go five 1145 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: years in a row, to go three out of four years. 1146 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 1: These are major organizational achievements. Shout out to the Niners 1147 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: who get past the Dallas Cowboys nineteen to twelve, largely 1148 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: because of their defense. Again, like the Philadelphia Eagles, loaded 1149 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and when one side 1150 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have a big day, you could still move forward 1151 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: because the other side could step up. We saw that 1152 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: there on that final play of the game, and and 1153 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: Greggy um and we're gonna get to the Dallas side 1154 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: of it because it's always filled with juice and it's 1155 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 1: just so it's almost like a Greek tragedy when you 1156 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: get to the Cowboys in January now. But the Niners 1157 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: they've showed through uh scoring in the last month that 1158 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: they could just destroy a team. This show they could 1159 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: win this type of game too. That's valuable. I think 1160 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: you set it up perfectly like the Eagles and the 1161 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: forty Niners. For all the talk that it's like the 1162 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: these a f C superpowers, here they got the best 1163 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: teams that I've been saying that because of their quarterbacks. 1164 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 1: The Forts and the Eagles are the two teams that 1165 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: can win any type of game that you don't know 1166 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: what unit's gonna show up, whether it's the defensive line 1167 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: or the secondary, or their passing game, or it's the 1168 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 1: running game. And forty Niners offense really didn't show up 1169 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: for much of this game. Credit to the Cowboys defense 1170 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,919 Speaker 1: for their game plan and their talent, but this game 1171 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: was there for the taking if Dak Prescott and the 1172 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense could get anything done, and they just couldn't. 1173 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: And part of that is is Damiko Ryan's is coaching. 1174 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: Part of it is this linebacker group, which is just 1175 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: so good Fred Warner making plays down the field and 1176 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: coverage alsha here was everywhere. He's so good that they 1177 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: have to keep three linebackers on the field, which not 1178 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: many teams do. We know, Dre greenlaws a beast like 1179 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: he made great plays. They just confused the hell out 1180 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 1: of Dac when he was backing up to pass and 1181 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,479 Speaker 1: they were all over their receivers. They let Ceedee Lamb 1182 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: get some catches and that's about it. And I just 1183 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: think if you kept playing this game. As much as 1184 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: I want to pick on Mike McCarthy for not being aggressive, 1185 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Dak in the Dallas offense would have 1186 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,439 Speaker 1: delivered if he was aggressive. So I think they would 1187 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 1: have lost this game either way. Because of this, forty 1188 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: ers don't come out of it with a with a 1189 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: ton of blame for Mike McCarthy or even the approach, 1190 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: because Dak Prescott did not look comfortable from the very 1191 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: word go uh. You know, the two interceptions, they only 1192 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: lead to two field goals. That's not fatal, But in 1193 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 1: a game like this where it was nine nine deep 1194 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: into the game, that's the difference. I mean, little moments 1195 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: like that because the big question was what we got 1196 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: pristine Doc and we could go we got pristine Dallas Cowboys. 1197 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 1: Is that who they are? They've grown into that? No, 1198 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: they haven't. And the the Niners find a way to 1199 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: make those versions, the better versions of their opponent disappear 1200 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 1: in a hurry. It's the defense. And then what I 1201 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: think happens with this Niners offense because it's a different 1202 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: game than a week ago when they were trailing Seattle 1203 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: at halftime, but just over the course of the game, 1204 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: they find a way for enough to happen on offense. 1205 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: And a game like this where it's so tight. Brock Purty, 1206 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 1: who is just absolutely like ice cold, like never seems 1207 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: to be razzled, frazzled on any level, like found George 1208 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: k with that incredible catch. I thought that was the 1209 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: turning point drive of the game. And then you got 1210 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 1: started to see Christian McCaffrey get through, Elijah Mitchell get through, 1211 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 1: and I just noticed the Dallas defense starting to tire 1212 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: because this wasn't a game like the Eagles against the Giants, 1213 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: where the Niners on the ground produced a lot early 1214 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: but they kept mentioning it and you know that like 1215 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Shanahan clearly stated it to the broadcast team. We want 1216 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: to be physical, we want to run the ball. We're 1217 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: not looking to take a ton of shots down field. 1218 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: We want to be able to do this against Dallas. 1219 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 1: It took a really long time, but in the last 1220 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: couple of drives, I'm not saying they were prolific, but 1221 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 1: you saw it and had Elijah Mitchell not run out 1222 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 1: of bounds like they would have iced it even minutes before, 1223 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: we wouldn't even got into that last absurd play with 1224 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott snapping the ball and then the whole thing 1225 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 1: ends and Dalton Schultz made some terrible bone headed plays 1226 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 1: back to back on that last drive. It wasn't a 1227 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,439 Speaker 1: great look um for the Cowboys. But yeah, I think 1228 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Dallas just like last year. You you came out of 1229 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 1: that game against again the fort but it was in 1230 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Arlington that game, Um, they didn't execute the way they could, 1231 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: They didn't take advantage of opportunities, and it happened again here. 1232 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 1: And it must be so frustrating for a Cowboys fan 1233 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: because that big Kittle circus catch, you know, that sets 1234 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: up um San Francisco on the Cowboys side of the field. 1235 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: But that becomes a touchdown drive because Trayvon Digs has 1236 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 1: a ball just skip right into his bread basket, uh, 1237 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: for what would have been a massive, potentially game shifting interception. 1238 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: He can't hold onto the ball. Um, there's a penalty 1239 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 1: in there as well that kept the drive alive, right, 1240 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 1: was it gonna be third or fourth and nineteen or something? 1241 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 1: And and the San Francisco then, to their credit, takes 1242 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: advantage and gets in and it's just like it's just 1243 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 1: the same things happen over and over again. I think 1244 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: McCarthy probably survives here. Um. But at the same time, 1245 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: would it shocked you with Sean Payton out there, uh 1246 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: running from mayor if it ends very differently. Here is 1247 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Jared Jones, who you know, Jerry Jones, God bless him. 1248 01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,120 Speaker 1: You know. My feelings and Jerr are clear that we 1249 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: will miss him when he's gone as a character in 1250 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 1: terms of what he uh, the entertainment value he brings. 1251 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: He went onto the field before the game to consult 1252 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 1: with Brett Maher after he missed a couple of field 1253 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: goals in warmups. That's the GM slash owner of the Cowboys, 1254 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: and of course he has thoughts on the Mike McCarthy 1255 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 1: decision to punt late in the game. I think what 1256 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 1: greg about three minutes left or so, fourth and ten 1257 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 1: deep in their own end. Um, they do get the 1258 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 1: ball back, but the game for all intents and purposes 1259 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 1: is over by that point. A lot of criticism on 1260 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 1: McCarthy and the Cowboys. Here's what Jared had to say 1261 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: about that decision. They had a lot to say about it. 1262 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 1: But um, but they uh it appears today we go 1263 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 1: more scheme pretty good out there by their defensive coaches. 1264 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: We scheme them pretty good. So uh, that was a 1265 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: that was a big difference. Uh, we had it tar 1266 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: force probably right up until the last three or four minutes. 1267 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: We had it tar force to get a step farther 1268 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: to the championship. But still, I'm I'm sick. Uh don't 1269 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: have Uh it's really anything materials important. Listen to him 1270 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: say so was he saying that like the coaches essentially 1271 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: told him, well, the defense had it all over us 1272 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: at that point. I mean, that is what he's saying, 1273 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: and that's to me, we were schemed pretty good out 1274 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,439 Speaker 1: there by their defensive coaches. I think what he's saying 1275 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 1: is we had no confidence we could pick up a 1276 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 1: fourth down, which is self evident because there were three 1277 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: decisions late in that game. It was actually two minutes 1278 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 1: and five seconds left by the time they got that 1279 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: punt off, so it was before the two minute warning. 1280 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Was fourth and ten from from your own a team, right. 1281 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 1: But when when they punted that, you know, we were 1282 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: we were in the in the film room and I said, like, 1283 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 1: there's a really good chance they don't get the ball 1284 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: back here, and they wouldn't have if Elijah Mitchell stayed 1285 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: in bounds And by the time they did get the 1286 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,479 Speaker 1: ball back it was a prayer. But earlier in the half, 1287 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Dan fourth and five at the forty the forty niners forty, 1288 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: they decided to take a delay of game uh and 1289 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: punt it and then the drive even before that. Granted 1290 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 1: there on the forty niners um and it's only a 1291 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 1: forty three yard field goal for Maher and it's a 1292 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 1: fourth and eight, But I did think considering Maher, considering 1293 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: they needed a touchdown, Uh, they could have gone for 1294 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: it there if you were seeing anything out of the 1295 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense. But I think based on that Jones quote, 1296 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 1: they had no confidence and I don't think it would 1297 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 1: have mattered because they shouldn't have had any content and 1298 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 1: this is and Greg, you are the president of the 1299 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: Dak fan Club, so I want to hear this. He 1300 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: played terribly. I mean this was he was brilliant on 1301 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Monday night against the Bucks, and you give him all 1302 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 1: the credit in the world for that, but that was 1303 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: the Bucks, an eight and nine team. If Dak wants 1304 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: to be seen as one of the best quarterbacks in 1305 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: the league, you need to deliver better than he did. 1306 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 1: He had two interceptions. He had a Drake greenlock it 1307 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: at US pick six late this game that would have 1308 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 1: sealed it and that would have been on his tombstone Doc. 1309 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 1: So he even got away with another killer throw. And 1310 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 1: just after that New Year pick six, he had a 1311 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: receiver deep that he misfired on, got the guy turned around. 1312 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: That could have been a big play and he just 1313 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 1: didn't show up. And I think that informed some of 1314 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 1: the decision making by Mike McCarthy, who said, my Devents 1315 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: is playing well and I can't move the ball at 1316 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,000 Speaker 1: my quarterback today, so I'm gonna hope that that wins 1317 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 1: that way. It was just it's disappointing, to say the least. 1318 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: The game we got from the quarterback. I totally agree 1319 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 1: it was a disaster. I actually thought the second half 1320 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 1: after the first two interceptions was worse. I don't know 1321 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: if they were in his head, but I thought it 1322 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: got worse. Even though he didn't throw a pick in 1323 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: the second half. He could have that ball to Ceedee 1324 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 1: Lamb down the seam that Fred Warner made the great 1325 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 1: play on. I mean, if he puts that out there 1326 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: a little more. M J D in the film room 1327 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: with us spotted it right away. Put some air under that, 1328 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 1: let's seed, keep the afterburners on. That's that's a touchdown. 1329 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 1: The plays down the sideline, and then I actually I'm 1330 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 1: almost haunted by the there's a third and five, I 1331 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 1: think on their first drive of the second half, and 1332 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: and Olsen was all over this one too. Was he 1333 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: went through his read so fast, had no pressure on him, 1334 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 1: and threw a weird outlet pass to Zeke that was 1335 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: not on target, that had no chance for a first down, 1336 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: And that was a panicked, poorly executed decision and throw. 1337 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, I think that's what San Francisco 1338 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: does to you. I look at a Cowboys team that 1339 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 1: had a chance, a major chance when Rayby McLeod fumbled 1340 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: the punt. You're at San Francisco twenty one. You get 1341 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 1: out of there with a field goal. You can't do 1342 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: that against this Niners team. And like Dak, Prescott completely disappointed. 1343 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 1: And I think there's similar images to the terrible loss 1344 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: they suffered against the Niners a year ago. And I 1345 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 1: don't care about that final play, for instance, And we 1346 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 1: were saying during our break, like, all right, you're gonna 1347 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 1: have to dial up something. It's gonna probably be wacky. 1348 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be wacky. But that said, I would rather 1349 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 1: just say, let's just go for the hail. Mary then 1350 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 1: had the seat that last year was Dak's scrambling, not 1351 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 1: getting the first, trying to down the ball, the time 1352 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,920 Speaker 1: runs out, like the whole things of fiasco. It's your 1353 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: final image of that Cowboys team. This was a good 1354 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys team that a year later, it's Zeke Elliott who's 1355 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 1: ruled ineligible, snapping the ball to Dac who whips it 1356 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 1: to turpin and he's nailed to the ground and the 1357 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: thing is over. It's like that's a circus. Sean Payton's 1358 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: loving that the way that game plays out and the 1359 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: reason Zeke is all over the game plan is because 1360 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, who was such a special player for him 1361 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: this year. Um, he goes out in the first half 1362 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: with a what's initially called a high ankle sprain, and 1363 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 1: then it's reported after the game that he suffered a 1364 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 1: fractured left fibula that will require surgery. Um normally, according 1365 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 1: to Todd Archer, Uh, those require a three month recovery. Greg, 1366 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: as you said during the break, he's a free agent 1367 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:57,120 Speaker 1: to be just bad bad, uh misfortune for Pollard. Yeah, 1368 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 1: that that's depressing. He's still, to me, would be a 1369 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: great free agent pick up for anyone. But yeah, there's 1370 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 1: just these they're not great in the details. And I 1371 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,479 Speaker 1: saw this interview acted with Aaron Andrews before the game, 1372 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 1: and he was talking about how he didn't leave the 1373 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: house for two weeks after the last one and that 1374 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 1: he actually rewatched the press conference from the post game 1375 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 1: lost to the forty isers this week because like he 1376 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,639 Speaker 1: didn't want to feel that again. And it just feels 1377 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 1: like you don't want to get inside his head. But 1378 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 1: he put him a lot on himself for this game, 1379 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 1: like that it's gonna be different, and then for it 1380 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 1: to happen again as Devins Ceedee Lamb defending his quarterback. 1381 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean he was gonna get criticized regardless no matter 1382 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: how he played, unless he didn't throw or zero interceptions 1383 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 1: if you did. If you did throw zero interceptions, everybody 1384 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: would have been on the school. Just because he threw pace. 1385 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna be on him. That everybody that was great. 1386 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 1: But he plays for Dallas Cowboys. He's number four, he's 1387 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: off starting quarterbet So that's what coming with it with 1388 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 1: my boy and know that. So it is what it is. 1389 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna work. We're gonna work. Ceedee lamb Um, just 1390 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 1: like he defended Brett or put through his support behind 1391 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,719 Speaker 1: Brett Maher on the bench last week, supporting dad because 1392 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 1: he knows how good dad can be. I think that's 1393 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,679 Speaker 1: part of what made this so frustrating for Lamb and 1394 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,640 Speaker 1: and guys like Greg Rosenthal that he didn't show up 1395 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 1: in this game. I mean, it will be a tough offseason. 1396 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 1: It kind of it mirrors to me, like, wait, what 1397 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 1: happened to Daniel Jones and the Giants? Oh, you've faced 1398 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles defense that basically has dismantled people left and right. 1399 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,160 Speaker 1: The Niners have been doing this. It's again, it's the 1400 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,799 Speaker 1: focus on Brock Party, this rookie Cord. Well, the defense 1401 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 1: has been destroying people week after week and turning good 1402 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks into lesser. I'm glad you brought up Party because 1403 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,759 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a whole week to talk about it. Um, 1404 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,719 Speaker 1: But a little bit sobering for Purdy, who gets large. 1405 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 1: Although he did get better in the second half as 1406 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: there he was improved some throws, didn't have a big 1407 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 1: game by any means, and now he has to go 1408 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: against the Philly defense that I think is even better 1409 01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 1: than the Dallas defense. So we'll see how that go. 1410 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 1: But ultimately San Francisco moves on there. They have not 1411 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,280 Speaker 1: lost in a very long time. And uh, I don't 1412 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 1: think who shoot, I don't know, I haven't thought it. 1413 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,680 Speaker 1: This is a tough one to pick, by the way, 1414 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 1: that's a tough one. N title game is gonna be 1415 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: a bonkers affair. Well, as of this taping, I think 1416 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 1: both lines next week are two points are under, which 1417 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 1: is crazy. I saw some analytics site which like put 1418 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,639 Speaker 1: the percentage of which teams will win the Super Bowl 1419 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,880 Speaker 1: and like everyone's between twenty three and It's pretty rare 1420 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 1: to have four teams. They have their strengths and weaknesses, 1421 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 1: and the Mahomes injury looms certainly, but that like, I 1422 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 1: feel like they're about all equal to win the Super 1423 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 1: that we've got the four best teams. Is there anyone? 1424 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Is there any debate? I think I'm confident we do. 1425 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 1: There is one other big injury that looms coming out 1426 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: of this game. Christian McCaffrey had a rap on his 1427 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: calf in the second half of this game when they 1428 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 1: were trying to ice the game. On their last possession, 1429 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 1: he gets the ball once on a weird wide receiver 1430 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 1: like screen type thing, but otherwise it was Elijah Mitchell. Uh. 1431 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,640 Speaker 1: He only had ten carries in this game. McCaffrey, So 1432 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,800 Speaker 1: what is his physical health going into the biggest game 1433 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 1: of his I don't want Christian McCaffrey suffering another injury 1434 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,320 Speaker 1: until they've won the Super Bowl and he like stubs 1435 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 1: his toe mowing the lawn and deal with that for 1436 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 1: two weeks. I don't think he's ever going to mow 1437 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 1: his lawn well again if he ever has. You know what, 1438 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,839 Speaker 1: he's kind of a bay. He drops a bag, drops 1439 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 1: a bag of drops a bag of fives and tens 1440 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,800 Speaker 1: and coins on his life. Well, I mean it works 1441 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,760 Speaker 1: too because his dad was an NFL player, That's what 1442 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean. But that's like a d n that's a 1443 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: better NFL player than McCaffrey every ever mowed the lawn. 1444 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 1: Just answer no. But I would say, like, the reason 1445 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 1: he's an NFL players not because his dad's wealthiest. Because 1446 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,559 Speaker 1: he's like his DNA and his genetics are superior to 1447 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: the vast majority of the population. And and one thing 1448 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 1: I've noticed here, you know, working at NFL Network where 1449 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys have their sons who are 1450 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,719 Speaker 1: becoming great players. He has excellent instruction and like playing 1451 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,840 Speaker 1: football all the time since you were four because your dad, 1452 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, that's an amazing advantage. And Dalton 1453 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: Schultz's dad didn't play football. Is that what you're trying 1454 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 1: to say? Now, He shouldn't know. He didn't know the 1455 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 1: rules about not going back and then to not get 1456 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,280 Speaker 1: that foot done. We could have seen the hail mary. 1457 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: If West was here. I knew he would, he would 1458 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,760 Speaker 1: mention this. It would have been like the Cowboys in 1459 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,719 Speaker 1: the Divisional round throwing a hail mary. That is where 1460 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 1: the Hail Mary was Born Cowboys Vikings game. But this 1461 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys team does not afford us that they didn't even 1462 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 1: get to don't. So the Cowboys go home again. It's 1463 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 1: been thirty years since they've been to the MNASY title game. 1464 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:40,799 Speaker 1: I think even more now, is it? That's a bad streak? Um? 1465 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 1: All right, So what do we learn? Football is still great? Um? 1466 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 1: The football? Uh? We could have, we could have had. 1467 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 1: We didn't get a classic, but we got a classic 1468 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 1: week of matchups coming up Conference championship weekend. Let's look 1469 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 1: at it real quick. Here San Francisco at Philadelphia noon 1470 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 1: five at the link. As I said, so that will 1471 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 1: be Greg Olsen, who had an excellent game. By the way, 1472 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,280 Speaker 1: that Olsen so good. I do not want. I don't 1473 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 1: think there's no way Tom Brady is retiring. But if 1474 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 1: Tom Brady retires and starts his three fifty million dollar 1475 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 1: Fox contract and takes Greg Olsen's number one spot, it's 1476 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,240 Speaker 1: a travesty. You can't do that. But they also here's 1477 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: the thing that we can. You can't make it a 1478 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: three man booth and throw Brady into that either put 1479 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,400 Speaker 1: him on the Booger mobile. I can't do that either. 1480 01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 1: I want to put a sandwich on Brady never ends 1481 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,680 Speaker 1: up taking that job completely. I wouldn't even take you 1482 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: on that because I don't see that happening, because like, well, 1483 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: he'll either pass on that or it'll just be like 1484 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 1: the Murdocks get to bring him to corporate events and 1485 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,759 Speaker 1: he shows up five times a year. You've had that theory, 1486 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 1: but I don't think that's why. That's what's the direction. 1487 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 1: There was like people Tom has made a lot of money. 1488 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 1: He's you know, but uh, one of the reasons, yeah, 1489 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why he is rich as he's 1490 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: made good decisions finance actually, so turning down thrender fifty 1491 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,040 Speaker 1: million dollars because he's bored of the idea. Now, I 1492 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 1: don't I don't see it. I just think, like, when 1493 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: it comes down to it, does he want to be 1494 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 1: at the nacho bar with Ross Tucker and the Tucker spreads? Uh, 1495 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,719 Speaker 1: you know before the game? You really think he's gonna 1496 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 1: be showing up to there are different levels Kansas City 1497 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 1: and doing all this everywhere. I just don't think he's 1498 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: gonna I think he's gonna be like I have. I 1499 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 1: know that's a lot of money, but I've got a 1500 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 1: lot of money in the end. I don't want to 1501 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 1: remember here when it's been years now and now Dion 1502 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 1: is a major head coach of a D one program 1503 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,800 Speaker 1: UM in college. Um, but Dion was different than all 1504 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,720 Speaker 1: the other guys. Dion, amongst the analysts, had his own 1505 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 1: green room that no one else could access. Didn't get 1506 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 1: that Brady money though. The money's He's not going to 1507 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 1: be hanging out of there like I don't think that. 1508 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he has to be up there. Uh, 1509 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,040 Speaker 1: she's not gonna be game. Doesn't see those guys have 1510 01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 1: no concern Tom Brady, the Nacho line and all this 1511 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 1: stuff that the normal plebeians are participating in the other games. 1512 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to get in that elevator. You can't 1513 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,120 Speaker 1: get out. Like he's gonna be in the elevator. You're 1514 01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna be next to Zach Berman and bow Wolf, like 1515 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and Land Ranch. I mean, he's just flashing blood. 1516 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,960 Speaker 1: He's a man. I just think he'll be too bored 1517 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,559 Speaker 1: by it all too. He's just not even gonna want 1518 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 1: to bother. He thinks that's boring. Wait till he retires 1519 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 1: and see what else around there? He did retire. How 1520 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,640 Speaker 1: long did that take? Three weeks? This keeps you in 1521 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: the public eye, you know, involved with something that you love. 1522 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 1: Everybody's saying you're the greatest. Who's talking about Troy Aikman. 1523 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,680 Speaker 1: Had he decided he was too bored to do this, 1524 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 1: like thirty years from now, Tom Brady will be like 1525 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 1: a historical very large historical memory. Or he can be 1526 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:47,840 Speaker 1: on television the rest of his life an elevator on 1527 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 1: the nacho line, don't project. I'm not I am turning 1528 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 1: down your three million contract that already signed because I 1529 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 1: don't want nachos. I don't think he uh, it just 1530 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:03,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't be in a just not in You know, we 1531 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,640 Speaker 1: wonder why we always have a ninety minutes show that 1532 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 1: we do a solid line the Bengals at the Chiefs 1533 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 1: three thirty pm Eastern Arrowhead three Pacific, And I like 1534 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 1: that you noon earlier because I think Pacific should start 1535 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 1: to be the standard time. Three pm Eastern Game one, 1536 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 1: six pm Eastern Game two. And then right after that 1537 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 1: you tune into The Round the NFL podcast streaming live, 1538 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,640 Speaker 1: and then you check out the audio show because you 1539 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 1: gotta get it twice. Good stuff, Um, thank you, everybody 1540 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 1: for listening. You have any other thoughts, Mark, I mean 1541 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,680 Speaker 1: the music is playing. I think it's time to reassess it, 1542 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 1: where we're at in life and start over. We'll be 1543 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,400 Speaker 1: back on Tuesday with our first look at Championship weekend. 1544 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Until then, you know what you gotta do, The call