1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. McLevin, what's the poll question we're gonna go. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: I actually put up what's the most exciting game seven 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: to you? NBA, NHL or MLB. Okay, Actually NHL a's 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: the early lead, so we'll see if people catch up. 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: You got Buccaneers at the Eagles coming up tonight. We'll 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: talk about that. With Tom Brady battling an injured thumb, 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: even though he threw for five touchdowns against the Dolphins, 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: and both these teams battling a lot of injuries here 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: we are going into Week six and just the number 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: of injuries here across the board, and you're adding one 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: more game here. This is you know, it's really a 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: battle of attrition in the NFL from now on. You're 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: gonna be lucky if your quarterback does play every game. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna guess, since they're running more than ever, 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, the over under for your starting quarterback how 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: many games you'll play is probably fourteen, thirteen or fourteen, 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: and that might be generous right now. It's just the 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: younger quarterback. Did you see what Aaron Rodgers said to 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Joe burrow Man. You're too talented, dude, you cannot take 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: these hits, and he took two really big hits against 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Slide, get out of bounds. You're young. 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: You think you're invincible, and you're not. You know, I 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: go back to the first moment when I realized somebody 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: was being smart. But in the moment I didn't realize it. 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: I was too young. Franco Harris used to run out 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: of bounds, and I just remember, wait, running backs don't 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: run out of bounds. And Jim Brown critiqued Franco Harris, like, no, 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: you take on contact, you initiate contact. You don't run 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: out of bounds. Franco was smart. Franco was like, I'll 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: just run out of bounds, all right. I might get 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: one or two more yards, but at what cost. You 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: got to reduce the number of hits, and you know 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: the angles of those hits, the momentum of those hits. Slide, 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: go out of bounds. It's okay. You don't want to 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: go in a fetal position like Brady and Peyton Manning did. Okay, 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: but don't go Andrew Luck where you go middle linebacker 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: after you throw an interception or Baker Mayfield did this 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: as well. Live to see another down, another game, another season. Yeah, McLevin, 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: But Lamar Jackson's not running out of bounce. In fact, 41 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: he's faking mcguy. He makes me nervous. I know he 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: did get knocked out of the playoff game with I know. 43 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: I just I say this every year, will continue to 44 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: say this every year for the last fifteen years. Get 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: out of bounds. There's no shame like the entertainment part 46 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: of this. You know, I understand it, like there's no shame. 47 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: Just just get out of bounds. It's okay. Nobody's gonna 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, critique you like Jim Brown and critique Franco Harris. 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: You're a quarterback, act like one, and that means be smart. 50 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: All right, let me get to Jim and Idaho and 51 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: then we'll talk about Kyrie Irving. All right, Hey, Jim Dan, boys, 52 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: how are you guys doing great? Jim good? Hey, Dodgers 53 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Giants tonight, boy, what a matchup? You guys are touched 54 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: upon it before Seaton. I think Roberts really nailed it 55 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: when he said this is what the league wants. I mean, 56 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: Dodgers Giants have never met each other in quite some time. 57 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: Certainly in the playoffs, so it's going to be exciting 58 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: game to night. Hey, Dan, I wanted to get your 59 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: take on the Andrew Brant interview you did yesterday. It 60 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: was really good, kind of gave me a thought about 61 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: this conspiracy theory with the league and what did John 62 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: Gruden have on the Redskins. One way I look at 63 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: it is he made those comments in the email ten 64 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: years ago. I think it was his brother was coaching 65 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: the team. He had a relationship with Bruce Allen, given 66 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: his days in Tampa Bay. What did he know? I mean, 67 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: this is like a perfect setup for Oliver Stone or 68 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: something to come in with some conspiracy theories. Just wanted 69 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: to get your take on that. And finally, jan Hey, 70 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: was my wife's sixtieth birthday two days ago. She's a 71 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: big fan of yours by proxy because she sees me 72 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: watching that simulcast. I'm listening to you on my cell 73 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: phone at the same time, so I'm a little nuts 74 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: about it. But her name is Deb and you can 75 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: give her a shout out to her sixtieth birthday. They'd 76 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: be awesome. All right, Well, thank you, Jim, and you 77 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: just did, and Deb Happy sixtieth birthday and good luck 78 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: with Jim. But I don't know anything about John Gruden's situation. 79 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: I have a source who's involved in this, but I've 80 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: asked and the source doesn't know, Like what else is 81 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: at stake? What's it? What's it play here? Because it 82 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: just felt like the focus went from the Washington football 83 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: team to John Gruden, and John Gruden's probably going, wait, 84 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: what happened? Yeah, they got emails when you were at 85 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: ESPN and you sent those to Bruce Allen with the 86 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Washington football team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they flagged a couple 87 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: of those. I don't know what he knew or knows 88 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: about the Washington football team, but chances are they would 89 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: have found that in the Bruce Alleny emails and emails 90 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: from his brother Jay. John wouldn't have been initiating something. 91 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: It would have come from inside to the outside, not 92 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: the other way around. But I don't know. Mike mayonk 93 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: is the Raiders GM, and he talked about the situation yesterday. 94 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: I've touched base with as many of the guys as 95 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: I could over the last several days. We talked with 96 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 1: the players. The captains spoke up at the team meeting 97 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: to a certain extent. The common denominator from the players 98 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: has been focus and professionalism. Yeah, and a lot of 99 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: we got to move forward here, and they do. This 100 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: was a one day, one day event, meet with them, 101 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: say what you need to say, you know, Derek Carr said, Look, 102 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, I love John Gruden. You know, I don't 103 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: kind of wash away the sin here paraphrasing, but it 104 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: was I love him. You know, I love the sinner, 105 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: but I hate the sin basically. But you know, the 106 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: Raiders got to move on from this. I just don't 107 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: know if there's going to be any more leaks because 108 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: my gut feeling and according to my source, there's going 109 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: to be. But Raiders moved on, and now the question 110 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: is who else is in the crosshairs? But I'm still 111 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: waiting to hear from the commissioner because I would want 112 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: to know if something happened inside my building under my watch, 113 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: with people who are senior executives looking at these emails. 114 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that these were interns combing through emails. Okay, 115 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: how many people accents to the emails? Let's start there, 116 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: because I gotta believe there's a lot of nervous people 117 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: and there should be all right, Kyrie Irving. He didn't 118 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: meet with the media. He was on Instagram, so the 119 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: media didn't get a chance to offer up any follow 120 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: up questions. And there is something that was or there 121 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: was something that was said yesterday that is screaming for 122 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: a follow up, and I'll get to that coming up. 123 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: In a moment, Kyrie said, of course, it's not about 124 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: the money, Yo, You're gonna lose out on money and 125 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose out on this, Like, so what It's 126 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: not about the money, baby, It's not always about the money. 127 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: It's about choosing what's best for you. You think I 128 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: really want to lose money. You think I really want 129 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: to give up on my dream to go after the championship. Okay, 130 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: Kyrie is going to get paid when he goes on 131 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: the road, and he's what is happening now. So the 132 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: NBA's expectation is that Kyrie Irving's refusal to get a 133 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: vaccine shot and then being unable to play in his 134 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: team's home games will fall fall under the reasonable cause clause. 135 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: That means he gives up three hundred and eighty thousand 136 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: dollars per game. So if he misses every game this season, 137 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: including the preseason. Then it's going to cost him around 138 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars. That's the regular season games. Then he 139 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: has two regular season games against the Knicks at the Garden. 140 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: But he's going to then make the other half of 141 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: that by being on the road whether he plays or not. 142 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: But he can practice on the road and if they 143 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: choose to have him play on the road. But he 144 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: did say that he's not done playing basketball. Don't believe 145 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: that I'm retiring. Don't believe that, you know, I'm gonna 146 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: give up this game for a vaccine mandate or staying unvaccinated. 147 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Don't believe any of the like really be aware. Hey, 148 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: this is the one that screams out with follow up questions, 149 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: but we couldn't because there was no media there with 150 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: follow up questions. All these people saying all these things 151 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: about what's going on with me, and it's just not true. 152 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: Pay attention to what's going on out in the real world. 153 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: You know, people are losing their jobs to these mandates. 154 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: People are having to make choices with their own lives, 155 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: which I respect, you know, and I don't want to 156 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: sit here and play on people's emotions either. Just use logic, 157 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: you know. What would you do, you know, if you 158 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable going into the season when you were promised 159 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: that you would have exemptions or that you didn't have 160 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: to be forced to get to the vaccine. You know, 161 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: this wasn't an issue before the season started. This wasn't 162 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: something that I foresaw coming where I prepare for it. Okay, 163 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: he was promised exemptions. That's where if I'm allowed to 164 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: ask a question of Kyrie, because Kyrie will say, hey, 165 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: respect my privacy while speaking publicly about this and then 166 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: wanting to speak on behalf of those that are don't 167 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: want to get the vaccine. You can't have it. I can't. 168 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: I can't respect your privacy. If you keep talking about 169 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: it and you want to talk about those who don't 170 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: have a voice, then how can I not ask you 171 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: a follow up question? And who promised you something? That's 172 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: what I want to know, you know, if he was 173 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: lied to by the NBA, by the Nets. Look, I'm 174 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: open minded to this. I'd just like to know. You know, 175 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: do I care if he plays in the NBA this year? 176 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't. If he does play, great, he's a wonderful talent, 177 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: But you don't want to play you sort of want 178 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: to play. If I'm the Nets, I don't want you 179 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: to sort of want to play. It's called a team. 180 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: You want to make a decision for you individually, then 181 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: you make it. But you can't sort of make a 182 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: decision because the team has to make a decision and 183 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: the team should move on. And I don't know if 184 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: Kyrie gets traded, I don't why would you want Kyrie 185 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: if he's not going to be vaccinated. Okay, you can 186 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: go to another city, another state where you know he 187 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: doesn't face you know these uh mandates. Okay, but this 188 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: isn't the first time we've had boy, what's Kyrie thinking? 189 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: And it's not gonna be the last time we have 190 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: something where we go, what's Kyrie thinking? Or why did 191 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: he say that? Or why did he do that? He did? 192 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Put his money where his mouth is when you think 193 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: about it, because everybody's like, oh, okay, you don't want 194 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, put your money where your mouth is. 195 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Uh he did? Oh. I can respect that. But if 196 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: you're not going to play, then just don't play. I 197 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: don't think you're being fair to your team. You're being selfish. 198 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: If you want to still be part of a team, 199 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: you don't want to be part of a team. This 200 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: is on you. Go ahead. You want to have a book, 201 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: you want to, you know, give speeches, you want to 202 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: be vocal about this thing. Great, go go ahead. But 203 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: it felt like it was somebody who was doing a 204 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: clown project and threw it together at the last minute, 205 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: and it just didn't feel like it was fully vetted. 206 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: Where you know, you're really looking at some strong points here. 207 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: I think you owe it to the media and to 208 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: this story. Tell us who promised you what? Like, That's 209 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: what I'd want to know. That's the only thing I 210 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: want to know right now. Who promised you this? What 211 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: did they promise you? Were you told you didn't have 212 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: to do this? Okay, we're told things. It feels like 213 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: on a weekly, a monthly basis. You know, where you 214 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: go into a city or go into a state. What 215 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: do I have to do? Hey, I was told this. 216 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: Hey I don't need my vaccination card going into a 217 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: restaurant in New York. No, you do this week Like, 218 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: we hear this all the time. We adapt. We may 219 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: not like it. Hey, you gotta have a mask on. 220 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: I didn't bring one. Well, here we're gonna give you one. Okay, 221 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: you got to adapt. We've been told a lot of 222 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: things for the last year and a half on this, 223 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: but I think you understand that this is a moving 224 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: target here, and uh, if Kyrie doesn't want to play, 225 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have to play, and you know what, we won't 226 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: miss him. But you can't be you got and you 227 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: can't be both. You can't be sort of a you know, 228 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: part time player. Uh. You know with the Nets that 229 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: they want to move on and this was going to 230 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: be their year. When you think about it, everybody healthy, Yeah, point, 231 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's weird. I don't want to speak out 232 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: of school here, but like I respect anyone who stands 233 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: up for something is willing to go if they're salary 234 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: or something really believing. If that's what he is altruistic 235 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: about this, then great. But there's a lot of people 236 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: not saying me. I'm saying. What I saw a response 237 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: on social media yesterday is like, this guy is just 238 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: doing it for attention. He's taking a situation making it 239 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: about him, which is what he's been known for a 240 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: bit in the past. So a lot of people doubt 241 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: his intentions, but what does he how does he benefit attention? 242 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: But he's starting up money he's already got. I think 243 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: he's got a ring right with the Cleveland. But what 244 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: do you do with that attenion? Some people like it 245 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: for the sake of it. Somebody like to be the 246 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: stirring the drink and the focal point and you know, 247 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: stirring the pot. Okay, that's what a lot of people think. Okay, 248 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't read into it that deeply. It's 249 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: just I'm just trying to figure it out. Because he 250 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: is a Hall of Fame player and he is not 251 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: going to play or play half or part time for 252 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: the best team or the favorites to win the title 253 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: this year. So it is a big deal. Yes see. Yeah, 254 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: it's almost like like some people want to be rich, 255 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: some people want to be famous. You know, you don't 256 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: necessarily want to be rich and famous. Some people want 257 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: one or the other. That's kind of like the attention thing, 258 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: I would think, right almost like not to say it's 259 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: like a personality disorder or something, but there are some 260 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: people who just need attention all the time and they 261 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: get it no matter how they could get it. And 262 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's what Kyrie is doing either 263 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: at all, but there is that people do have that 264 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: part of their personality. He's already got his money, He's 265 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: made what one hundred and sixty million dollars. I don't 266 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: think money has has been, you know, the driving force 267 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: for him. And he's gonna lose on that Max contract extension. Yeah, polling. 268 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, I was watching Billions not too long ago, 269 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: and the big guy who's a billionaire says it, yeah's 270 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: a what's the use of having screw you money unless 271 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: you say screw you? And he used a different phrase 272 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: he goes, but it allows you to do that every 273 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: once in a while when you don't want to listen. Okay, Yeah, 274 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean he is complicated, or at least he presents 275 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: himself as being complicated. I always feel like he wants 276 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: to be the smartest guy in the room, and sometimes 277 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't go well. Yes, Kyrie, because he's been so 278 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: difficult over the years and sort of such an enigma 279 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: to figure out, has worked himself into like this corner 280 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: of public opinion where no matter what he says, it's 281 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: the wrong thing. You know, like you said before, like, oh, 282 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: put your money where your mouth is. Then you don't 283 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: want to do then put you Okay, I'll put my 284 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: Why are you costing yourself all that money? You know? 285 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, if you don't want to play, 286 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: then just don't play. I don't care. And then he 287 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: doesn't play, It's like where's Kyrie? Why isn't he playing? 288 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of he's kind of gets it 289 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: from all angles all the time. Some of it is 290 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: by his own doing, Yes, a lot of it's by design. 291 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: But if he doesn't want to play, I don't then 292 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I don't want him to do 293 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: part time now. That is fascinating, it's a storyline. I 294 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: just don't think you're being fair to Kevin Durant, who 295 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: you partnered with to make this work. He came there 296 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: specifically to play with you. How do you That's what 297 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: I'd love to know. How are you and KD when 298 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: you're around each other? Does I don't know the vaccine 299 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: come up? Does hey see you on the road? I okay, 300 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: just feels like it's sort of hanging there. And if 301 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: you don't want to play, don't play. But you can't 302 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: say respect my privacy, But then you want to talk 303 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: about this, well, if you don't, I'll respect your privacy. 304 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: Don't say anything or let us talk to you. We've 305 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: invited him through his agent. I think nothing wrong with somebody, 306 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, clarifying something or giving you a different thought 307 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: on something. I'm open minded to it. I'd love to 308 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: know who promised him something and what was promised in 309 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: fairness to him. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 310 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 311 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific 312 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 313 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or 314 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by 315 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: searching f s R, or stream us live on the 316 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: Peacock Act. All right, get Chris Mannix in here, Sports 317 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: Illustrated You sure you want to join us? Mannix? But 318 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: I considered myself medium successful and be competentated. Go with that. Yeah, sure, 319 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: how's boxing? By the way, you, uh, Tyson Fury Deontay Wilder. 320 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: Are we going to see a part four? No? No, 321 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: we won't see a part four. I think in Tyson 322 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Fury's mind, of the mind of everybody settled it. That 323 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: was the second time he has battered and beaten Deontay Wilder. 324 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: But that was that was probably the best fight I've 325 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: ever attended live. I mean, that was two six foot 326 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: seven plus heavyweights bombing away at each other over the 327 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: course of eleven rounds. It was It was incredibly gripping, 328 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: and it proves dan something I've often said that when boxing, 329 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: when boxing at the highest level and fought like that, 330 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: there's almost no sport better than it. Like I've been 331 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: to a lot of places and a lot of atmospheres. 332 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: That was right up there with the best atmospheres I've 333 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: ever experienced. Okay, what's next for Tyson Fury, Well, he's 334 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: probably going to have to defend his title in a 335 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: mandatory challenge against the guy named Gillian White, who is 336 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: a very good top five guy over in the UK. 337 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: It's a pretty big fight over in the UK. It 338 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: might be able to sell out a indoor soccer stadium 339 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: or an arena of some kind. They'll do a big number, 340 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: and then he'll face the winner of Anthony Joshua against 341 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: Alexander Usi the rematch which will take place in the 342 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: first quarter of twenty twenty two, and that fight will 343 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: be for the first undisputed championship that we've had in 344 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: probably twenty years. Since Lennox Lewis held all those belts. 345 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: So's it was a big night last weekend for Tyson Fury, 346 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty two could be even bigger. You know, 347 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: we love to rank these heavyweights, and usually it's not 348 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: somebody from the last twenty five years who gets included 349 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: in there. But where How does Tyson Fury get into 350 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: that that big list of great heavyweights of all time? 351 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: Or is he already there? I think he's He's making 352 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: his way up that list. And I know it's it's 353 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: sacrilegious to suggest that a Tyson Fury could handle a 354 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali or a George Foreman from back in his prime, 355 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: or Joe Frazier. But one thing Tyson Fury does that 356 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: so far in this era no fighters be able to 357 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: figure out, and I'm not sure who would figure out 358 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: in that era, is he leans on you. And one 359 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: of his tactics is to take that huge six foot nine, 360 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy seven pound frame in the early rounds, 361 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: get close and then lean on you so you aren't 362 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: literally carrying him over the course of the fight. He 363 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: did it to Deontay Wilder dozens of times in that 364 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: fight and That's why after the third round into the 365 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: fifth and sixth you saw Deontay Wilder sitting on that 366 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: stool longer than Tyson Fury was, for sure, right until 367 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: the very second that bell rang. That's because Fury just 368 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: drapes that body over you and makes you hold him up. 369 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: He knows how to sap your energy. And I don't know, 370 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how I would deal with it. You know, 371 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: he's just so big and so long that I don't 372 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: know how a guy from any era would be able 373 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: to handle that type of tactic. Yeah. I remember with 374 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Lennox Lewis, he was just so big and had such reach. 375 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: That's why Tyson Mike. Tyson never wanted to fight him 376 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: because he knew he would lose because Lennox Lewis was 377 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: bigger and knew how to box better than Mike did. 378 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: But Tyson Fury, he looks like because of his dad bought. 379 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: He gets into the ring and you go, man, he's 380 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: going to get pounded. And then the next thing, you know, 381 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: like he doesn't look like the baddest man on the 382 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: planet when he gets into the ring. No, he was 383 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: criticized early in his career for not being a power puncher. 384 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how a guy six nine, two seventy 385 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: seven cannot be powerful like that. That doesn't really really 386 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: jibe from me. One thing about him is that he's 387 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: been boxing, you know, as he liked to say, since 388 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: he was out of the would like. His family comes 389 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: from a fighting family, and he has been boxing for 390 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: an incredibly long time. So he is as skilled as 391 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: any heavyweight that I've ever seen, and uses every tool 392 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: that he has in the toolbox in all these fights. 393 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Tyson Fury, to his credit, doesn't 394 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: like to compare himself to fighters from other eras, doesn't 395 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: like to say, oh I beat fighter X, fighter Y, 396 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: fighter Z. But when you have a guy that size 397 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: that can do the things he do, he does and 398 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: it's not accidental, it's a tactic, it's a strategy. When 399 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: you have guys that big that can do what he 400 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: can do, it's just very hard to see pathways for 401 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: people to beat him. He's Chris Mannox. He covers boxing obviously, 402 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: and the NBA for Sports Illustrated senior NBA writer, What 403 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: was Kyrie Irving saying last night? You know, I have 404 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: watched that twenty minute video at four and a half times. 405 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: Maybe at this point, I'm not really sure what he 406 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: was saying. He's saying he's not retiring. Okay, that's somewhat 407 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: of news, because I you know, that was even the 408 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: water supply a little bit. But I'm still not sure 409 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: why he's not being vaccinated. Is he not being vaccinated 410 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: because he's anti vaccine and he doesn't trust it. Is 411 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: he not being vaccinated because he's trying to be some 412 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: kind of man of the people to stand up for 413 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: the people that are losing their jobs because of these 414 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: vaccine mandates. I can tell you just talking to a 415 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: couple of people within the NETS organization after Kyrie put 416 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: that that was an aggravating video to some people in 417 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: Brooklyn because he really didn't answer any of the questions 418 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: that people have about his reasoning for not getting the vaccine, 419 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: and he gave no real timetable for when he might 420 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: come to a decision to make a return. So they 421 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: are operating blindly on the future of Kyrie Irving in Brooklyn. Yeah, 422 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: I wondered when he said. The only part that stood 423 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: out where you know, there's no follow up questions is 424 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: he was given permission? Who gave him permission, and what 425 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: did they get give him permission to do or not do. 426 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what. I mean, he's given permission by 427 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: the NBA not to get vaccinated. I mean, I guess 428 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: that's one way of framing it. You know, Kyrie clearly, 429 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the New York City mandate clearly took Kyrie 430 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: by surprise, because you know, Kyrie is an influential member 431 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: of the players Union, and he's a big reason or 432 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: one of the reasons at least that the union didn't 433 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: go for vaccine mandates when the NBA pushed it. So 434 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: Kyrie went into the off season thinking he could do 435 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: his thing, he'd be subject to these protocols, which are insane, 436 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: by the way, I know a number of players that 437 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: got vaccinated just to avoid having to basically be a 438 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: second class citizen within your locker room and within your team. 439 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: But he went into the off season thinking, if I 440 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: go through this, then I don't have to get vaccinated. 441 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: Then the City of New York steps in, they say 442 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: no exemption for him, and I think that really thrown 443 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: Kyrie over the last month. I think for a while 444 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: he believed that, you know, something would happen, something would 445 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: change and he would get vaccad And I'll be honest, 446 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: in the New York law doesn't make a lot of sense, 447 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: mostly because on October twenty fifth, Bradley Beale is gonna 448 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: come to Barclays and play like visiting players are not 449 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: subject to this this mandate by the city. Now, I 450 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: don't really get why Bradley Beale or Jonathan Isaac or 451 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: any of the other players that are publicly unvaccinated are 452 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: allowed to play, but Kyrie Irving, And so I think 453 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: Kyrie thought all along it was eventually to work out 454 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: in his favor. It hasn't. It doesn't look like it's 455 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: going to Eric Adams, the presumptive next mayor of New York, 456 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: has not commented publicly on what he will do if 457 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: and when he takes office. So this is this is 458 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: a situation Kyrie's gonna have to deal with for the 459 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: foreseeable future. But he's not going to get paid playing 460 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: at home, and he will get paid for playing on 461 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: the road or not playing, you know, joining the team 462 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: on the road. Is do I have that? Yeah? So 463 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: the Nets can't. This is the nets decision to basically 464 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: send him away. It's Sean Marks, it's Josi who have 465 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: decided it's not tenable. And I understand that dav Kyrie 466 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: participating in practices but only playing in just under half 467 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: the games of the season. He can't play at Barclays, 468 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: he can't play at Madden Square Garden. That's two more 469 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: games added on to that. So he'll get just under 470 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: half of the salary, which I believe is between fifteen 471 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: and sixteen million dollars for this season if he doesn't play. 472 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: You got an opinion on the Lakers so far in preseason. 473 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: Feels like everybody does well. It's not good, but that's 474 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: the question. The question is like we gotta pump the 475 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: brakes of the Lakers, though it's gonna be well after Christmas, 476 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: I think before we can make any kind of sweeping judge. 477 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: Not that I'm not prone to do that anyway, but 478 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be after Christmas before we can 479 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: make any judge with Lakers. They're just you know, they're down. 480 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: Areza Nlan, Horton, Tucker, hurt a lot worse. I was 481 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: talking to Frank Vogel about this a couple of weeks ago, 482 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: and you know, Horton Tucker was probably going to be 483 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: a starter with that team, and they were counting on 484 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: him to take on the responsibility of defending the best 485 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: wing player on an opposing team. So that's a big 486 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: loss for them to see him go out for whatever 487 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: it's gonna be, four to six weeks with that thumb injury. 488 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have a lot of problems early on. 489 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: They might start the season five and seven, you know, 490 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: fifteen and sixteen, something like that. But you know, after Christmas, 491 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: whenever they gets healthy and everybody kind of figures out 492 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: kind of what their roles are with the team. That's 493 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: what I want to see what this Laker team looks. Guys. 494 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm still not a huge believer in going to get 495 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: Rusts and not going to get going to go to 496 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: Sacramento to make that deal for Buddy healed. But I 497 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: don't think you can judge them until we get well 498 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: past the midway point of the season. Do you want 499 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: to join me on the Golden State bandwagon again? Your 500 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: predicting championship? What does the bandwagon look like? Uh, well, 501 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: there's plenty of seeds, but I'm going Western Conference Finals. Oh, 502 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you're obviously believing Clay Thompson looks like Clay 503 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: Thompson when he comes back. Yes, I'm not so sure 504 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: in year one he's gonna do that. I mean, I 505 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: was talking to this this coach about Clay last week 506 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: and the one thing he said is like, look, Clay's 507 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: gonna co back. He is gonna be shooting the ball great. 508 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: But what made Clay such a huge impact player for 509 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: that team was his ability to you know, pump, fake you, 510 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: and go off the dribble and make shots. Is he 511 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: going to have the same bounce in year one coming 512 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: off those two injuries? And defensively, he was a high 513 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: level defensive guy for that team for during his best years. 514 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: That's probably gonna suffer because he's trying to come back 515 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: from this injury. I just it's pure speculation at this 516 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: point because we don't know what Clay looks like. But 517 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: I just I don't see him being more than yeah, 518 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: of the player he was. And if that's the case, 519 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: the West is so good that I don't see Golden 520 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: State getting there. Just throwing it out there, the nice 521 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: bandwagon to be on. It's better than you know, some 522 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: of the bandwagons I've jumped on over the here. Yeah 523 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, it's uh, plenty of your room though, 524 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: lent of your room on the Golden State bandwag Hey, 525 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you again, buddy. Thank you, 526 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: Safe travels good. That's Chris Manning, Sports Illustrated NBA Senior writing. 527 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 528 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 529 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 530 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 531 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. He's 532 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: my Carmen, I'm Dan Byer. We have a brand new 533 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. Twice a week, 534 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with new episodes. 535 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: It's about only look back at what happened, what you 536 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: need to do at that minute, and also look ahead 537 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: of what's coming up in the fantasy football world. That's 538 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: right Dan. Every week we're going to scour the waiver 539 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: wire to find the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup, 540 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: sits starts, fantasy football players rankings to get you ready 541 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: to dominate the competition. Listen to I Want Your Flex 542 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: with Mike Carmen and met Dan Buyer. On the iHeartRadio app, 543 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: Apple Podcast and wherever you get your podcasts is run 544 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: with us there, PAULI, Yes, all right, let me make 545 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: the official introduction. Ron Darling, baseball analyst for tbs'll be 546 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: joining Brian Anderson for the call tonight's win or go 547 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: home National League Divisional Series between the Giants and the 548 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: Dodgers that starts at nine eastern on TBS. Ron, good 549 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: to talk to you this morning. Introduce us to the Giants. 550 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: Oh boy, what a team, you know, just a magical 551 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: kind of zero for them, whether it's they're older players 552 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: that have performed above what you thought they could do. 553 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: What are the players that they have acquired that you 554 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: didn't think would be great to have been? And then 555 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: they're stuff off the bench, best pen shooting team, just 556 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: that really honestly, every time they needed something to happen, 557 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: that happened for them. And that boats seems to boat 558 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: well for Game five. But you, Wilso, and I don't 559 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: know if you believe in this. When you have that 560 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: lineup that doesn't have the true star, it feels like 561 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: they probably think, hey, one of us has to step 562 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: up tonight, not just rely on Hey Mookie bets has 563 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: to stay, you know, stand up there that it almost 564 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: feels like it's more dangerous with that lineup. That feels 565 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: like one of us has to take ownership tonight. You know, Dan, 566 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: that's a really good point. I think that they have 567 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: spent the entire year with people saying that at some 568 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: point they will decline, they will not play well, they'll 569 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: be out of it, the Dodgers will overtake them, and 570 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: each and every time they have stepped up. And I 571 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: think they've done that probably better than any team as 572 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: far as maximizing their thirty or forty man roster, everyone 573 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: that came up. When you think about it, they're closure 574 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: right now. As a kid that was up and down 575 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: four times, that didn't perform well until September, and now 576 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: he might be the difference maker if they move ahead. 577 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: Explain these two pitchers, because I looked and I don't 578 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: think they've lost in It's been a long time, but 579 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: you know between these two, like thirty nine starts. Does 580 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: that sound accurate for these two going into this game? 581 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: It does? It does. In fact, if you if you 582 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: look at Webb, he hasn't lost since since May fifth. 583 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: If you look at ureas he as in his last 584 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: twenty three starts with the Dodgers, they're nineteen and three, 585 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: so when they take the mound, the home team wins, 586 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: So it's going to be interesting to watch. You know. 587 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: The one I guess advantage maybe is that Areas has 588 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: been there so many times. At twenty five years old, 589 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: he's got seven postseason wins, which is remarkable. But the 590 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: slogan Webb kid has just had, like the Dodge, I 591 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: like the Giants, an amazing magical year. Everything has gone 592 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: his way. So you know, we're skeptics are always wondering 593 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: when it's going to end. But those people that are 594 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: think of great magical endings are thinking that's always going 595 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: to go on, So who knows. Do the Giants have 596 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: a lineup though that you would think it was not 597 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: built for that ballpark, but but they are their home 598 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: run hitters. Everybody in the lineup can hit home runs. 599 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: Are we getting to the point where it doesn't matter 600 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: what ballpark teams are playing in? That's a better point, Dan. 601 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where you play now if you've got 602 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: guys who have power, defenses really are irrelevant. Although in 603 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco they've moved defenses in ten feet or less 604 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: in three or four different areas in that ballpark, and 605 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: in center field it's three. And I remember when I 606 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: was a kid playing in the Cape Cod League, Dennis 607 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: Yarmouth center field was like three eighty five. We thought 608 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: that was the most ridiculous center field of all time. 609 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: So think about these big leaguers with the big muscles 610 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: trying to hit the ball three ninety one. That really 611 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: is a difference maker. But I go back to I 612 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: think Cleveland had a center field of four fifty four 613 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: if ye, like many many many years ago, Like that's 614 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: crazy to have a center field that deep. And uh, 615 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: you know Fenway's not deep, that's not even four hundred. Yeah, Cleveland. 616 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: Remember forbes Field and Pittsburgh they used to they used 617 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: to use the batting cage with the guys sit on 618 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: before the game. They used to just park it in 619 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: center field because they figured that no one could hit 620 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: the ball out of the ballpark there. So you know, 621 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: there was some Yankee stadium of course. Uh you know, 622 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: all all of the monuments were in play at some point. 623 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: So certainly the game and the ballparks have changed. Circle 624 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: two guys tonight, one for each team, where you say, 625 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: you know this, this is the guy that's the key 626 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: for the Giants. This is the guy the key for 627 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Okay, for the Giants, I'm not going to 628 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: say a guy, but I do think because of their 629 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: pin shooting numbers, they have eighteen home runs from pin shitters, 630 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: They've had some magical times. A late night Lamont Way Junior, 631 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: you get that nickname because you're you're great late in 632 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: the game. I think he might do something for the Giants. 633 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: And I think when I look at the Dodger team 634 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: with all their stars, the guy that has been the 635 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: best from the seventh seventh ending on and later to 636 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: include the postseason, who has eight home runs to tie 637 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: the game or put them ahead, is there techer Will Smith. 638 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: Those are the two guys I would look at tonight. 639 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: We talk about the playoff format. Sometimes we look at 640 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: the end results and then we're like, oh, you got 641 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: to recede. You know, everybody's angry now the one game 642 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: playoff it's there. You know that that should the Dodgers 643 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: be in a one game play My thought is how 644 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: about we say this before we start this season, not when, 645 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: because if you had some teams that weren't nationally known, 646 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: nobody would be screaming about this. But you put the Dodgers, 647 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: you yank. He's in a situation like this, then we 648 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: want change. Could you see baseball receding or could you 649 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: see it more than a one game playoff? Again? Yeah, 650 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: I think I can't see them. Well, I think the 651 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: receding thing makes more sense in this way. I would 652 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: see someday that baseball will have no divisions, that it 653 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: will be the National League and the American League. And 654 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: in this scenario, you'd have the Dodgers and the Giants 655 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: who have the best record. You'll probably maybe include six 656 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: teams instead of instead of the five teams we have now. 657 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: So six teams in each league, two series of three 658 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: games between three and four and two and four and 659 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: five and six, and then the teams that had the 660 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: best records in the game would play those teams after that, 661 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: so they are assured at least of getting into the 662 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: division series. John Smolt said, how about if you had 663 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: that one game playoff that the team that has the 664 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: fewer wins has to beat that team twice, while the 665 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: team that has the more wins they only have to 666 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: win one game. I like that too. I mean, John 667 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: thinks about these things all the time, and he has 668 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: really great ideas. The only problem you have is that 669 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: if you beat a team twice, you have to beat 670 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: the team twice. It puts you into a pitching situation 671 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: where you might not be competitive the rest of the 672 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: next division series. So I wouldn't want to put a 673 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: team in a place where they use their number one, 674 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: they use their number two, they have to fight to 675 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: use the entire bullpen and get to the first game 676 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: and they have to do a bullpen game, or you 677 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: have someone from a shortstop pitching. So I would never 678 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: want to see that. Do you still hold a grudge 679 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: with anybody you played against? Do we never helped grudge 680 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: against anyone I played against. No. I think the longer 681 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: you live on this planet, after your professional athlete, the 682 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: only uge you hold is against yourself when you think 683 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: about I think. I was a Dodger stadium two days 684 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: ago and they were celebrating the nineteen eighty eight team 685 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: and uh and as I was talking to Himie Harin, 686 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: their radio announcer for the last sixty two years, he said, 687 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, Ron, it's the it's the sixty's the anniversary 688 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: of the nineteen eighty eight Dodgers. I said Himie, I 689 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: only lasted an inning in the seventh game. It's not 690 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: a celebration for me. So I kind of hold a 691 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: grudge against myself, you know. So it was pretty funny. 692 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: I couldn't help but watch the documentary on you know 693 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: your Mets back in the mid eighties, or to think, well, 694 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: I loved it, but but I was there around that. 695 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: I worked at CNN in New York, so I was 696 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: around you guys, you goofballs, um, But I but I 697 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: started to wonder, We've had these one and done teams 698 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: that were so good, but the only one once, Well, 699 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: if you were going to put your feet grown, why 700 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: that Mets team only won once? What would have been Well. 701 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. I think that maybe 702 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: maturity might be one of them. But honestly, that team 703 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 1: felt like a you know, like an Open A's team. 704 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: It felt like a felt like a Cincinnati Reds team. 705 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 1: But we're destined to always live with not a team 706 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: of destiny, but a team that had an amazing year. 707 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 1: But I think that we could have been a little 708 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: more mature with how we approached the longevity of what 709 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: we were trying to do. How about that finished a sentence. 710 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: If Dwight Gooden had stayed clean, I would have been 711 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: able to go to Cooperstown and listen to him give 712 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: a great speech. Yeah, you know, Ronnie, I went. I 713 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: paid to go see a game, and I think it 714 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: was like May. It was in May, and it was 715 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: Dennis Martinez and the Expos at Shay against Doc. And 716 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: I paid for seeds behind home plate because I wanted 717 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: to watch. I wanted to this is eighty four. Maybe 718 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to watch. I wanted to hear that fastball. 719 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to watch that curve ball. Yeah, Like I 720 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: was that fascinated, and I could have gotten probably, you know, 721 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: press credentials. I wanted to sit behind home plate and 722 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: uh I, oh my god. El Presidente was awesome. I mean, 723 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: I loved Dennis Martinez, but Doc Gooden was just that 724 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: was different. That was that was that was different, you know, 725 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: El Presidente. Once I got traded to the Expos, I 726 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: was only there for about a week or so before 727 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: I moved on to the A's. He took a perfect 728 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: game in Los Angeles while I was there, so I 729 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: got to see in the uniform, a perfect game, and 730 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: boy what a pitcher with capital P I tchr as 731 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: he was. But as far as Doc was concerned, you know, 732 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: I lived in the city from my entire career with 733 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: the Mets, and he was only athlete that I had 734 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: ever played with, heard about, went to see that. The 735 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: whole city would be buzzing if he pitched on a 736 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: Friday night. I mean the entire city. You would go 737 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: to lunch, people will ask you about him. You would 738 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: walk down the street tell Doc Helo. It was that 739 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: kind of phenomenon. And I think we have I don't know, 740 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: like that's a society. We love when teenagers can beat 741 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: old men. It's one of the coolest things, I think. 742 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: And that's what Doc had working. But did you think 743 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: if you were banking on Hall of Fame, you saw 744 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: Strawberry and you saw Gooden, who would you have bet on? 745 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: If they were if they were stocks, which one would 746 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: you have bought? I would have bought both, because I 747 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: thought if you asked me then and I would have 748 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: said it. I wouldn't have said it then, but I 749 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: say it now. They were bonds and clements, and that's 750 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: the kind of career arc they were on and ironically 751 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: bonds and clements are in the whole came either. So 752 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 1: but that's the that's the kind of career that those 753 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 1: two were supposed to have, you know, six hundred home runs, 754 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: three hundred wins UM, four thousand strikeouts, two thousand RBIs 755 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: that that's where they were going. And you know, it's 756 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: a it's a it's a shame. But also, um, I 757 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: love those two guys. So I'm happy that they're in 758 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: a good place right now. I'm happy they're still alive. 759 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: Ron Yeah, that's probably what it comes down to. You know, 760 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: they're a lot docs alive. I mean that docs alive. 761 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: Darryl is thriving, um, you know as as a preacher 762 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: and and and trying to talk to people about some 763 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: of the mistakes he's made. You know, they're they're trying 764 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: really hard to do great with their lives. What what 765 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: better things than that? You know, great to talk to 766 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: you have fun tonight, and thanks for joining us as always, 767 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: Ron Oh, thank you, Dan appreciate it. Fie. That's Ronnie Darlin.