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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to The Black Out Tips with your host

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Speaker 2: Rod Ed Karen, and we are alive on.

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Speaker 3: A Monday, I believe Monday heard around the world. Guys.

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Speaker 2: First of all, the official weapon of the show is

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Speaker 2: an unofficial sport, a bullet ball. Extremes at today's podcast

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Speaker 2: brought to you by us just deciding to come in

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Speaker 2: and do some podcasting. That's what happened. You can find

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Speaker 2: us on iTunes that your potomatic. Leave us five star

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Speaker 2: reviews and we will read them on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, Greg, what's going on? Man? You probably want

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Speaker 3: to know while we're in the middle of conversation.

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Speaker 2: Because I didn't do the wrap today, so you just

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Speaker 2: skip thirty seconds of hot podcasting for no reason, all

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Speaker 2: trying to get past the lyrics, trying to be fast.

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Speaker 2: But now look at you missing out on show.

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Speaker 3: M hmm. That's what's wrong with you. You're too grown,

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Speaker 3: You're too fast these days.

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Speaker 4: M m hm.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, you can check us out all over the place.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate the people to take the time out to

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Speaker 2: do that. Let's get into the show. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what's going on in the world. What's even

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Speaker 2: to talk about?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you about I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you want to fill up time, I show can

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Speaker 4: talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I went to go see The Avengers for the.

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Speaker 4: Third time yesterday, okay, and I had a ball.

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Speaker 3: You didn't go by yourself? Who you go with?

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't go by myself.

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Speaker 4: I went with my mother in law and Layla, and

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Speaker 4: this was their first time seeing it. And I think Layla'

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Speaker 4: was seyding bits and pieces, but me and you we

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Speaker 4: see them all.

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Speaker 1: And so Layla is the best.

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Speaker 4: Cause she was hurt, like I'm talking about, like tears

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Speaker 4: was warming up in their eyes. Like at the end

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Speaker 4: of the movie, your mama had to go to the bathrooms.

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Speaker 4: Me and Layla was standing outside and Layla looked at

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Speaker 4: me and it was like, d have to do like that?

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Speaker 2: I was like, I know, yeah, yeah, I think also

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Speaker 2: like for Layla, I can't say for exactly, but I

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Speaker 2: think for a lot of kids her age, this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be there. Optimist Prime dying and Transformers an animated

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Speaker 2: movie for them, correct, because that's what I remember when

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Speaker 2: Optimist Prime died in that damn animated movie and I

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Speaker 2: was in the theater, like, what is life?

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Speaker 3: Why isn't life fair? What is death? Even? What is that?

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Speaker 3: Obviously is no God? What else have y'all been lying

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Speaker 2: Because Optimist Prime is sitting there turning gray, and this

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Speaker 2: of the movie.

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Speaker 3: He was just chalcoal for the rest of the fucking movie.

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Speaker 1: Damn you adults, you have lied to.

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Speaker 2: Me right Like, I'm like, he died saving my namesake

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Speaker 2: rhyam is Prime with hot Rod at the time, and

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Speaker 2: then that nigga went on to become a minivan and

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Speaker 2: people people blame him for Optimist dying, But can we

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: He also say the universe from Galvatron. So put some

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Speaker 2: us be here if he had to unleash the power

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Speaker 2: of the matrix. And you know, bitch ass Ultramuh what

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Speaker 2: you couldn't even over the fucking matrix. You let that

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Speaker 2: junk the cons get the motherfucking matrix. Uh, I'm sorry, guys,

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Speaker 2: I've had a lot of I have a lot of feelings, and.

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Speaker 3: I don't blame you.

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Speaker 1: Uh uh.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, did this movie for her generations and then

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Speaker 4: ship for me? I told her, I said, I looked

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Speaker 1: And we had to get motherfucker support groups. So I

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Speaker 1: I'm here for you. You want to talk about it,

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Speaker 1: I'm here for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, but you know, that was the thing, like,

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is gonna be those kids moment.

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Speaker 2: You know, every generation gets what the fuck life is bullshit?

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Speaker 2: Life is trash moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, damn, I was grown.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a kid, and I was still looking like

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Speaker 4: what is this because I didn't read all the comics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, but uh, I think it'll go

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Speaker 2: of the Empire strikes Back, That's what it is. The

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Speaker 2: Empire strikes back. Yeah, because I was is another like

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Speaker 2: sad ending but classic that. I love that movie. It

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Speaker 2: think it's wild because nineteen, like the Marvel Universe, was

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Speaker 2: seventy three and nine don't mean shit to me.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: He was like control all delete, bitch, reset right.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that was a good place to start.

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Speaker 1: I had a really, really a good time.

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Speaker 4: And uh, I know I said this before, but uh,

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Speaker 4: shout out to AMC and shout out to I'm lazy, y'all.

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Speaker 4: So shout out to being able to pre order everything

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Speaker 1: I gave everybody they shit and we went into the movie.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it was bad too because we had just

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Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, at this point you was just ordering.

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Speaker 2: Food just to to to order it, like just because

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Speaker 3: You couldn't help yourself.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. It was drunk food, y'all.

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Speaker 1: It was trash.

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Speaker 4: I had some Eminem's in the soda and I think

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Speaker 4: later got like a little kid's mill and your mama

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Speaker 2: But chair at any rate, I know everybody really want

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Speaker 2: but it's This is America the video by Donald Glover.

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Speaker 2: I saw it Saturday night when he released it on

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Speaker 2: which he was great on Saturday Night Live as well.

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Speaker 1: I need to go back and watch the clips.

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen everything, but a lot of people say

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Speaker 2: Then he also had a skit where he was orange,

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Speaker 3: So he got he did like that scared it was.

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Speaker 4: So pretty sure he played particularly with him, he probably

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Speaker 4: Was visually stunning, like it was designed to give your response.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was designed to start provoking and visually provoking,

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Speaker 2: Black people in America have always been traumatized and dealt

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Speaker 2: And that was like a To be honest, I probably

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Speaker 4: And yeah, because like, and I think for me, because

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Speaker 4: like you actually seeing them and you ain't seeing them

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Speaker 1: You actually you win it with your own twies. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know he does the whole the whole

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Speaker 2: visual genius. Like they've done several videos together, him and

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Speaker 2: That's not how I saw, So I'm gonna jump in

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Speaker 2: That's why so many good artists out and you can

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Speaker 2: stop doing it. Clearly you've learned something because you've taken

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00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: it out and you've actually added different messages since then.

439
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: We are all developing, we're not all like we're all

440
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 2: on our different past.

441
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: But we're all developing towards whatever goals we want to

442
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: get towards.

443
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,719
Speaker 2: Correct, Not everybody is living a life publicly for you,

444
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 2: Not everybody. Like he's deleted all his tweets, not problematic

445
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 2: to tweet all his.

446
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: Tweets more than one.

447
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: Like he's just erased that existence off, like I shouldn't

448
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: be on here, you know, on social media, doesn't follow anybody,

449
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: you know.

450
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 3: It's that kind of thing where it's.

451
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: For art and for purposes of promotion, and then he'll

452
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 2: just erase it and start over, right.

453
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 3: He did the similar thing with Deadpool.

454
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: When there were rumors that he wasn't working on Deadpool,

455
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: he wrote that fucking script in the night and was like,

456
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: there's eight episodes right there, so I don't know, you know.

457
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 3: And the other part of this thing.

458
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: Is even when people do perform the shit the way

459
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: that you say you want to, the apologies and all

460
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: that stuff, nobody ever forgives those people. What do we

461
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: Why are we pretending that that's a thing that happens.

462
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: It's more about our pain, and it's more about our

463
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: dislike of someone, and there's a power in that anger,

464
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: and we're never gonna give it up.

465
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: We're never going to give it up.

466
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter when people do it the right way

467
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: or the wrong way, because there is no right way.

468
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: The original offense is the problem, and it doesn't fucking

469
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: matter what the steps are after that.

470
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: I've never seen it work. I've never not once in

471
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: my life.

472
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: Have I seen it work where people went and you

473
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 2: know what, they fucked up, But good for them. We

474
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: all fuck with them again, right, Nah. You either like

475
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: them or you don't like them. If you like them,

476
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: you allow for them to not be perfect. If you

477
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: don't like them, they can't be like. Their imperfections are deadly,

478
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 2: you know. And that's kind of to me, that's kind

479
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: of the ultimate goal. They just had a thing with

480
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: this writer, Juno Diaz or whatever. He wrote this long

481
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: thing in New York Times about how he's been abusive towards.

482
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: Women and he uh and.

483
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: He while he experienced abuse and shit and how it

484
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: informed his life and he was all fucked up towards

485
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: people and shit because of it.

486
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: And it's still no excuse and he's still.

487
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: Sorry and he apologizes blah blah blah. Okay, some people

488
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: that like him that love is writing. They was ready

489
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 2: to jump hey this nigga. Hey, thank you that this

490
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: is what men should do. People are being abusive, you

491
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: gotta get out there and say something and we appreciate it.

492
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: Da da da da. Right, Okay, a few weeks go by.

493
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: I think last week, some women come out like, hey,

494
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: he was creepy towards me, he tried to kiss me

495
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: one time. He was he had an attitude about this thing.

496
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 2: And people was like, oh, so you just apologized, but

497
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: you wasn't really sorry. You was trying to get ahead

498
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: of the women that were gonna come out and talk

499
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: shit about your ass.

500
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: Now. I don't know which is true.

501
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: Maybe that's true, maybe that's exactly what happened, or maybe

502
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: he did the thing where everybody says, stop waiting for

503
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 2: these women to come out and say something, because and

504
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: now I don't believe you're sorry. You waited till women

505
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: had something to say. Now you're sorry. Fuck you're you're

506
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: not really sorry. Okay, Well I'm apologized, and tell y'all

507
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: I have the horrible things, and I'm not gonna put

508
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: their names out there because that's not for me to

509
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: do because that's harassing and fucked up. But these are

510
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: specific stories where I fucked up and I'm sorry and

511
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 2: this you know, blah blah blah. Well now you're just

512
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: trying to get ahead of the story and you're taking

513
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 2: the story away from the women. It's like, honestly, the

514
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is And I think it's that

515
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: impath thing where sometimes I hear people talking, but I

516
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: feel like what they're saying is not necessarily the truth.

517
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: And I don't know if they know it yet or not,

518
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is, we're angry and

519
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 2: we don't want to forgive you, and it doesn't matter

520
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: what the fucking steps you take are, they're gonna be

521
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: the wrong steps as long as we're mad. Because we're mad,

522
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 2: you should not have done the original sin. And I

523
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: think that relates back to this, the original sins where

524
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: Donald Lover is really what I think a lot of

525
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: people having problems with. So you do have the trauma

526
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: in the video. But if there's trauma in a video

527
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 2: and you don't like it, it's kind of an easy

528
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: thing to say and they'll get out of right, Like

529
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: you can just be like, I don't like this shit,

530
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: so I'm not.

531
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: A fan to move on.

532
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: But when you see the extra steps come in and

533
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: it's he got a white girl baby mama, And like,

534
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: I mean, did you get that from the video? He

535
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: hates black women? Was that in a video or is that?

536
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: You don't fuck with him? So it doesn't matter what

537
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: this video is, right, Like if it was the same

538
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: video with Sissa, would you be like this is genius

539
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: or would you be like this, nigga.

540
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: It's too traumatic? Why is she doing this? You know

541
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: what I mean? I wonder you know or not even

542
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: says because there's people that hate.

543
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: Scissa because she has some old tweets, so you know,

544
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 2: but everybody got receipts on everyone. So I do want

545
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: to separate that from it, because I also want to

546
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: acknowledge I don't have a problem with those people. If

547
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: you harbor a grudge against this motherfucker and you're flip

548
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: flopping on this, like you pretend that it's all this

549
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: flowery language because we can couch it in four dollar

550
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: words and ten dollar words and all this shit we

551
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: can catch. We can catch it in big words all

552
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: we want. But a lot of times is this petty ass.

553
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't like that, nigga, And I hear you loud

554
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: and clear, dog, you don't even have to waste your

555
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: time writing into the show or explaining it, because I

556
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: can absolutely understand that impost because I have it too

557
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: with different people. We all have it. None of us

558
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: is above it. Sometimes you see a motherfucker quote unquote

559
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: winning or doing well and you don't like that motherfucker,

560
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 2: and you just be like, why can't everybody hate them

561
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: the way I do? Let me write a think piece,

562
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: and you're like, this doesn't require I think piece. You

563
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: know a good example Beyonce. When Beyonce did a drop formation,

564
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: we had all them hating ass scholars and shit writing

565
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: these long ass essays that don't nobody give a fuck

566
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: about talking about she's a capitalist and she's daddy. She's

567
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 2: only riding this pro black shit for just because it's

568
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: what's popular. And I'm like, none of us know anything

569
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: about Beyonce because Beyonce only tell us what she wants

570
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: us to know about her. But just say you don't

571
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: like her ass I can get with because I like her,

572
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: but I understand the impost and not like someone. It's

573
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 2: the great equalizer that we all have in life. I

574
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: wish people would take more advantage of that so we

575
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 2: could have some actual like shared moments of humanity. But

576
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: everyone's so busy trying to pretend to be perfect that

577
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: we end up talking to ourselves in circles of like, nah,

578
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: it's not that I don't like him as per se,

579
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, you have a lot of snide

580
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: comments about you know, shit that he said ten years ago.

581
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: Well yeah, he never did. And I'm like, oh, so

582
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: you don't.

583
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: Like him, okay, because it didn't have nothing to do

584
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: with yesterday. It had something to do with ten years ago.

585
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: You ain't never letting that shit go. I understand, you

586
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Look, I hate Sean Marian's jumper.

587
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many fucking championships he could win,

588
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: It don't matter. I'm gonna always be like, what's wrong

589
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: with this Nick James Harden entire basketball game?

590
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: I can't stand it. I respect it, but I can't.

591
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: Fucking stand it. You know, if he went MVP, guess

592
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: who's gonna be hating me. I'm not gonna write a

593
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: think piece. I'm be like, oh, this nigga gotta win.

594
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: Why Russell Westbrook's getting twelve triple double a night?

595
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: Like you know but that?

596
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: But but I'm at least keeping it real with you

597
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: so that you don't have to go through a filter

598
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: of bullshit to get to the truth, which is.

599
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: I just don't like that Nigga's game right right.

600
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: And in my opinion, a lot of people don't want

601
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: to say that because they say that they know that

602
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: that will in the conversation for oh you don't like well,

603
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 4: then shut up and not.

604
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: Go on somewhere else.

605
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: They'll be dismissed. And they don't like that.

606
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: But you're gonna get dismissed anyway, Yes, you are, So

607
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: even couching it in a lot of language ain't really

608
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: helping you, Like, well, he said this thing before, okay,

609
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: but I'm only talking about the video from yesterday, so

610
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: automatically it was a non start.

611
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 3: You walked in with your arms folded.

612
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: So I can't really trust your unbiased opinion on this

613
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: because it is a biased opinion. We all have biases,

614
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: but clearly it's a biased opinion against this dude before

615
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: the shit even starts.

616
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: So I want to address that too.

617
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: You know, the trauma, got it, the hate quote unquote slash,

618
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, past shit he's done.

619
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: I got that too.

620
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: I ain't even mad at y'all for that, because everybody

621
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: should have everybody if people are honest with themselves, we

622
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: all have it right.

623
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: Now.

624
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: This is third thing that I do take issue with,

625
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: and I find to be probably the most ridiculous of

626
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: the critiques, this idea that he's somehow misusing or abusing

627
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: black trauma for his own personal gain, as if he's

628
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: not black and didn't experience this trauma the same way

629
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: we all do, as if we all that our creatives

630
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: don't live in a world where we put that into

631
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: our art, whether it's the absence of it, which is

632
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: an intentional avoiding and.

633
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: Escapism, which still means.

634
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: That the baseline is we are trying to avoid the

635
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: trauma that exists, so it's there, or it's delving into it.

636
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: That's the part that I find kind of.

637
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: Not.

638
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: That's fake, that's not cool.

639
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 2: That's a level of critique that you're only leveling at

640
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: him specifically because either a you're othering him to the

641
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: point of like he thinks he's a certain type of black, which.

642
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: That niggas from Stone Mountain, Georgia. What are you talking about.

643
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: He's not some.

644
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: Silver spoon rich kid, you know, just because he might

645
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: talk a certain way or dress a certain way. That's ridiculous,

646
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: Like they still do Confederate flag rallies every year up

647
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: in that piece, they still have Confederate like faces on

648
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: the fucking monument at the Mountain. Who are you to

649
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: say his trauma doesn't isn't his now, you don't have

650
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: to participate in it, but it is his story. He

651
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: gets to tell that. And it's especially funny coming from

652
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: motherfuckers that a most of them have sanitized Twitter account

653
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: any fucking mistakes they've ever made, and the shit they

654
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: said about people, they've either deleted and cleaned up rebranded

655
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: themselves five different fucking times, and all this shit like

656
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: that is kind of shady to me to watch. But

657
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: I maybe takes one of no one on that, But

658
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: that's kind of shady to me because I've watched people

659
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: change over time to be these other people that they

660
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: weren't always two. I've watched a lot of you motherfuckers

661
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: use your trauma all day. That's how you've monetized your

662
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: own shit, and no one gets to come in and

663
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: tell you, well, you know what, I feel like you're

664
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: abusing the things that happen to you and the things

665
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: you experienced in your your life. I mean honestly, I

666
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: mean all you do all day is talk about it,

667
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: and I really think you need to.

668
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: Move on, Like nah, no one gets to tell you

669
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: to do that.

670
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: So when I see Starbucks, waffle house, when I see

671
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: George Zimmerman, I talk about it on the show and

672
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: Twitter and face looking everywhere else that we talking in

673
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: private conversations and offline and everywhere because I'm black and

674
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm in America and it affects me and it's something

675
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: I think about, And so does that nigga? What made

676
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: you think he didn't like? It's such a weird critique

677
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: to have of someone. Well, why are you putting trauma

678
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: in this? Because I'm fucking traumatized.

679
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: As are you, as are all of us.

680
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: If you're even casually aware of this fucking country, we

681
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: are all traumatized. We are black, and we live here

682
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 2: as hostages almost. It's in a land of people that

683
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: fucking detest us, in a land of people that will

684
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: call the couse on us for fucking having.

685
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: A drink for you want to use a bathroom. So yeah,

686
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: it might show up in my work.

687
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, Like it's easy to say

688
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: that critique of one person as if we don't do it,

689
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: you know, like, what.

690
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: Is standing on the cop car information? What is that?

691
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: What is that? What is to pimp a butterfly?

692
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: Literally the meaning of the fucking title of the album

693
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: is this trauma that happened to me in America. I'm

694
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: going to pimp it into something beautiful. I'm going to

695
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: make it work to something that makes my life better.

696
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: What is a rose from the concrete? What is that?

697
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: Are we gonna act like this, nigga?

698
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to act like.

699
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: He invented the will with this? Is what? This is America?

700
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: No one is.

701
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: It's a long story tradition of black art as commentary

702
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: and as a message.

703
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: You know. So, I think of all the critiques.

704
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: That one was the weirdest. Cause you can say I

705
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: just don't like trauma. I'm not gonna delve into your

706
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: catalog and really see if you're telling the truth.

707
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: But let's just say I doubt a lot of people

708
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: telling the truth on that one.

709
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: I think you allow for it when you like the person,

710
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: and when you don't like the person, you don't allow

711
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: for it.

712
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Because trauma is the language of the country.

713
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: It's the language of communication between humans, like it is

714
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: a thing we all go through. You think lemonade is

715
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: not about trauma. You think you don't like lemonade because

716
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: of the certain shit you've gone through. Some people that

717
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: don't like lemonade also because of experiences they've had. You know,

718
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: you think four forty four is not about trauma, some

719
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: of it self inflicted, some of it that he calls

720
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: the other people depend on butterfly everything, Kendrick Doug it's

721
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: an uitared catalog is full of traumatic shit that that

722
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: is a mausoleum of death in America for black bodies.

723
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: You know, like poetry like go back, like what doesn't

724
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: have trauma in it?

725
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: That's black in America.

726
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: The only nigga I know that gave us something they

727
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: didn't have trauma in it that was black in America

728
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: was Bill fucking Cosy. That's the only that's the only

729
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: person I can think of that did it. And we

730
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: see what it took for him to make that up.

731
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: I mean, then give me some trauma, please, because I

732
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: don't just need you to. I'm gonna need to know

733
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: that you know you're okay behind the scenes. So so

734
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: like all of this shit happens. If it's not there,

735
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: then it's not real. We're not gonna co sign that

736
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: shit anyway. But but it's kind of ridiculous to us.

737
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: To me, it's ridiculous to me for us to say, Nah,

738
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: this guy doesn't get to have trauma and his shit

739
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: he's different.

740
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: No, he's not.

741
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: You know, I'm and I can tell how many people

742
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: aren't familiar with his old catalog and shit because his

743
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: first like actual album, it starts out with Outside, which

744
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: is a song that is essentially about his upbringing, you know,

745
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: sleeping like three and four people to the bed, not

746
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: his family, not having their own house and having to

747
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: stay with his aunt and they used to foster her

748
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: own kids and stuff. One of his little sisters had

749
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: HIV and stuff, and how he was afraid to.

750
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: That kids at school would.

751
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: Find out about it and pick on her and the

752
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: family and stuff. So he was always being extra defensive

753
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: of it, you know, people calling him ugly.

754
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 3: And shit as a kid, you know, the typical shit.

755
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: Not to say that his shit was atypical, I'm trying

756
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: to say, these are typical black experiences we've all had.

757
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: So then to turn around and make it because you

758
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: first heard of him on thirty Rock, that he's some

759
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: type of like I don't know, like coon ass nigga.

760
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: I think it's just ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous. And

761
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: that's not to say he's not problematic, because all of

762
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: according to y'all, all the fees are problematic. But it's

763
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: only when y'all catch somebody liking somebody that y'all want

764
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: to pull out the problematic card, as if one we

765
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 2: don't know all everybody's problematic, as if you aren't yourself.

766
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: That's that weird shit, you know what I mean?

767
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 3: Where it's like, like I said the other day on twelve.

768
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, everybody's problematic, but don't let them

769
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: catch you liking something, because.

770
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: That's how they get you. Oh you like a thing,

771
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: let me tell you what's wrong with it.

772
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: I didn't say I liked it because I thought the

773
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: thing was perfect or the person making it was. I

774
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: like it despite that, the same way that if I

775
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: go through your roller decks, yo, ass does something too.

776
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: Period. How I don't.

777
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: Understand how everybody's not perfect, but you're always telling me

778
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: about somebody's in perfections, as if that shit quote unquote

779
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: canceled them or something, which is it.

780
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Which is it? So?

781
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: Anyway, but yeah, I remember outside man talks about, you know,

782
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: growing up poor, and it's funny if you, well you

783
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: haven't watched the last episode of Atlanta, but that scenario

784
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: about the closing shit comes up in the songs then,

785
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: like he's like, you know, having uh, he had two

786
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: parents and his cousin didn't and his cousin took it

787
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: out on him.

788
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: And I've dealt with that too. I had two parents.

789
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: You know.

790
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: I don't talk about it because I don't like to

791
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: hear people talk about you know.

792
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to make it.

793
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 2: Sound like listen, guys, it's so hard him and two parents,

794
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: because I'm not trying to say that, but I know

795
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: that's how some people will get defensive and take it.

796
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: But it came with his own shit too. Everybody shit

797
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: come with something. Nobody's shit is perfect. Everybody shit come

798
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: with something, and you know, so so like even when

799
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: he talked about that shit, and I think people just

800
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: weren't on him at the time.

801
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, he's new to this black.

802
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: Shit, you know, but he's but he's not though, you know,

803
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: you're just kind of here now, Atlanta. You know, it

804
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: is a show, a series that's definitely about black trauma.

805
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 2: The very first episode, someone gets shot and we never

806
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 2: find out what happens. Is that, like are they dead?

807
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: Are they grazed? Like, we never find out what happened.

808
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: And ultimately that's like the biggest statement because nobody cares

809
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: when it's black people shooting each other. Nobody cares what

810
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: Alfred did that?

811
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: Dude? Nobody.

812
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: It's been two seasons, it's never come the fuck back

813
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: up other than Paperboy the Realist rapper a lot. You know,

814
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: there's all this shit in that series that that I

815
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: think is there, and people still don't. I think it's

816
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: just they don't like him, and he never publicly did

817
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: a Maya copa. So it's lingered over into this and

818
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 2: so we can't even talk about the video without talking

819
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: about all this shit first, because these are the things

820
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: I don't feel like getting mail about, to be honest,

821
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: you know, these are the things I don't feel like

822
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: fighting with people about because if you feel this way,

823
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 2: you feel this way, what am I gonna change your mind?

824
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: You don't give a fuck about me?

825
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: Like like like clearly the jury is like the Jerry's

826
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: in on that shit, right, if you're still listening at

827
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: this point, right, I completely understand you gotta go. But yes,

828
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: so I wanted to start with those things because those

829
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: are the weirdest, Like two of those. I understand that

830
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: last one kind of a weird critique. No black person

831
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: gets the copyright to who can and cannot use trauma

832
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: and a shit if they black too, because they.

833
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: Going through it too, rich, poor, whatever.

834
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: And I know people are full of shit on that

835
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: one because just last week, when Kanye was claiming to

836
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: have been above this trauma and not want to be

837
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: labeled as just black, niggas lost their motherfucking mind at

838
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: the idea of a black person saying I'm rich now,

839
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: I like white shit.

840
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: I'm out of this. We went, no, the fuck you?

841
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 3: You better not. You can't go nowhere? Are you crazy?

842
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: That's not how this works.

843
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: Donald Glover makes a black at leans into the black

844
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: shit like but look at this, and then it's no, now,

845
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: your black ass got to get out of here. You

846
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: can't be talking about this black shit. White people might

847
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: see it like, what's so uncomfortable? You know, we're so uncomfortable.

848
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: All right, So now let's talk about the video.

849
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: All right. Sorry to do that long preamble.

850
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: But so first of all, I think what I think

851
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: the meaning of the video is is that or what

852
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: I interpreted for for me, okay, let me say that,

853
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: because I actually don't think it just means one thing.

854
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 2: But I think it's about the duality of being black

855
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: in America. I think the video does serve two sort

856
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: of different masters. I think there's a message for the

857
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: black audience in there, and there's a message for the white.

858
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 3: Audience in there. And I think.

859
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: The message for I think for the towards the white

860
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: audience is, I know, y'all see this shit and all

861
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: the stuff that we are going through, and that it's

862
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: essentially like a new form of slavery and oppression that

863
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: is all around us.

864
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: But as long as we're dancing, you don't really get

865
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 3: a fuck.

866
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: Like you'll take and cherry pick from our from our

867
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: culture the things that entertain you.

868
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: But the actual humanity and the strife.

869
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: And the the shit that is happening around us and

870
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: to us that's in the background, that's not y'all.

871
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 3: Don't care about that.

872
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: You know, when y'all see me, and you know, and

873
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 2: it's something that a lot of white people and they've

874
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: kind of had to come around because actually a lot

875
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: of black people too. They had to come around on

876
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 2: Donnal Glover because he's so talented and he's not going away.

877
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 3: That's really all it is to it.

878
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: A lot of this anger is also that motherfucker said

879
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 2: they've been canceled him and they don't have the power

880
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: to and now they're they're like.

881
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: I can't believe he still existing. Y'all like him?

882
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean that's kind of the deal. If

883
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: someone is entertaining people, that's what happens, for good and bad.

884
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: This is not always a good thing bad So you

885
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: may think it's a bad thing, but it's happening, right So.

886
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I think that was kind of a

887
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: message I took from it was for it was like,

888
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 2: you know, y'all are fine with violence in our music

889
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: and violence that we in our lives.

890
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: That we do to each other.

891
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: Us performing violence towards another, y'all find with that. You know,

892
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: he did he did the whole video in Confederate pants,

893
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: Confederate soldier pants and these like Confederate soldier shoes with

894
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: no shirt on. So and then, like I said, with

895
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: all the minstrelsy, you know, there's like the dance breaks

896
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: in the video, there's ten different of those viral dances,

897
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: which a lot of people don't know. Those viral dances

898
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: are not organic like those viral dances that we all

899
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: talk about now. There was companies that paid money that

900
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: made those dances up and put them on YouTube.

901
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: Madonna was part of this. I remember reading the article on.

902
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: Like Madonna's investing in viral dance crazy, How the fuck

903
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: does that happen? But you know, like dabbing and shit

904
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: like that, when that going on, like a lot of

905
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: that shit is not necessarily just some shit that's some

906
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: three black people made up or whatever.

907
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: They make the video look like that, but that's not

908
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: what we got, you know, So that.

909
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: Was part of it. I also noticed like the kids

910
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: being in there, and especially because they had like kids

911
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: uniforms on for school, and especially during the dance parts.

912
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: Two of the things I noticed was like the people

913
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: that weren't dancing were always in triuma in the background, yes,

914
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: or they were you know, celebrating or doing something like

915
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: quote unquote stereotypical but by the end of the video,

916
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: it's all almost like a riote in the back. But

917
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: everybody that wasn't dancing was you know, part for they

918
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: were up for destruction in the background like anything happening,

919
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: though everybody in the foreground is dancing, and shit, they

920
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: were safe, you know.

921
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: Rose of that Chappelle joke we saw.

922
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: We went to see Chappelle a long time ago, man

923
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: twenty years ago at least, and he was and he

924
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: had this joke that I've never seen him perform anywhere.

925
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: But he was like, uh, I mean, you know recorded,

926
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: but he was like, uh yeah, the police, uh were

927
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: Basically the joke was the police saw him and he

928
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: was just standing on the corner smoking some weed or

929
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: something like, you know, just doing nothing that that the

930
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: police should have stopped him for he wasn't doing anything

931
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: too suspicious, but he was coming over all his options

932
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: and he could have ran and jumped over the fence,

933
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: but they would have chased him, and he an't know

934
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: he could get over there. He could have did this,

935
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: and he could that. And then he said, so I

936
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: was stuck, so I had to do what I had

937
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: to do. I just started dancing, he say, started dancing

938
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: and he starts, you know, mimicking dance on the on

939
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: the stage, and then he comes back to like pretending

940
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: to be the police, and he's like, let's be there.

941
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: There's nothing to see here. This nigga's just dancing, and

942
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 3: they drove off.

943
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: And part of it felt like that too, where it

944
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: was like the people in the foreground were almost safe

945
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: because they were just entertaining these white folks and dancing

946
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: and shit, and you know, so I think that was

947
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 2: kind of a message for white people and shit and

948
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: the especially at the end when he's running away, and

949
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: you know, whether you might see it as breaking the

950
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: breaking out of being their entertainment, or whether you just

951
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: see it as, look, man, I recognize that even this

952
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: shit can't save me. Even all this entertainment and shit,

953
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 2: I'm still running for my fucking life in this country,

954
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: you know, because once again, this is America, right. So

955
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: I felt like that was part of it as well.

956
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: And you know, the kids are dressed out respectable and

957
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: shit like that too, but you know, in the background

958
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: there's other kids dressed just like them that's going through it.

959
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: So that was a big part of it. Let me

960
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: tell you what everything else then, like I said, in

961
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: the violence was like he shot a dude in the chair,

962
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: he shot a church choir, which obviously harkens back to

963
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: the Charleston nine.

964
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 3: Two years ago at Dylan Ruth.

965
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 2: But you know, to me, I took it as y'all

966
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: don't care about this as long as it's you know,

967
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: black people dye black people's hands, like white people think

968
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: this is just part of of what we do. Like, yeah,

969
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: we kill, we do all this dangerous violent shit, but

970
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: we also dance and we also keep you, you know, laughing,

971
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: and keep all this shit. So as long as you're

972
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 2: entertained and we're coon in and we're minstrelsy to you,

973
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: we're cool. Like these people are approved to make it,

974
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: you know. So then the other thing, like I think

975
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 2: for the black part of it, for the black audience,

976
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: in addition to saying like you know, I see this

977
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 2: shit too.

978
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 3: I'm black.

979
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: I'm up here on the stage, but you know, I'm

980
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: living in this bullshit as well as you. It's not

981
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: like I'm just out here like but I'm doing great.

982
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: He's like even when you see me.

983
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: Dancing, because when you look at his face and shit,

984
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 2: it's no old, genuine moment of emotion, Like he never

985
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: has a moment where you're like, oh, he's enjoying his life,

986
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: he's spending He's like these are all things that I'm like,

987
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: this is survival for us too, Like this is a rival,

988
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: this is like this dancing is all this shit that

989
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: we're doing to make it is just to make it

990
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: in a country that fears and hates us, and we're

991
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: just trying to do what it takes to get by.

992
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: And even when it seems like we're bawling, even the

993
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: compromises that we make, like get your money, you know,

994
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: like Grandmama said, get your money, even that is a

995
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: compromise because like I'm getting money in this shit, you know,

996
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: like I'm not getting money in escaving, and I'm.

997
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 3: Getting money and I'm still here. You know. That's how

998
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: I took it. So you know, there's a.

999
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: Ton more, I'm sure imagery stuff we could get into.

1000
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: There's like the way he still when he shot the

1001
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: gun was this Jim Crow stance that people were talking about.

1002
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 3: He had several of those.

1003
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: Those moments, I'm sure, and I think people will be

1004
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 2: breaking that video down for a long period time.

1005
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think it'll be.

1006
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: Something that'll just be like And that's why I didn't

1007
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: even really want to talk about on social media too much,

1008
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: because like, I don't have the proper take an hour

1009
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: into watching this or the next day or the next morning,

1010
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: and people were just doing a whole lot of, you know,

1011
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: very introspective stuff. I'm not trying to say they were wrong.

1012
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not that didn't make it. You know,

1013
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: people like clockwork orange and this obscure chapter of this

1014
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: book and this you know, maybe all of that's in there.

1015
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't make it.

1016
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: Only he would tell you, and I doubt he would

1017
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: because Donald Gover does not really seem to be too

1018
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: concerned with and I think for his own health, he

1019
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: had to stop being concerned with what the fuck people

1020
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: thought about him. Because people will drive you crazy and

1021
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: they don't there's never a limit to how much shit

1022
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: you have to take when they think you're the person

1023
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: on the stage, you know, and we always lose sight

1024
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: of that part of it. I mean, I won't as

1025
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: long as we do this show, I won't, but we

1026
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: always lose part of that side of that part of

1027
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 2: it when you are the person on stage, every human

1028
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: being has an exhaustible amount of energy until you're like,

1029
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 2: I can't be everything for everybody, Nope, and I'm gonna

1030
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: lose myself trying to make this fake.

1031
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: Image for y'all. You know, and people don't like the fake.

1032
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: Shit either, So I don't even really know how it's

1033
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: really that contentious to say that, because you know, motherfucker

1034
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: Swift Chance fake is fucked now for the last however

1035
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: long and industry plan and all this shit, like, okay,

1036
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: so Chance ain't real, but he says and does all

1037
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 2: the intersectional shit y'all claim y'all want, But it can't

1038
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: be real then, right, so it must be fake about it.

1039
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: So I don't know, you know, I don't have the

1040
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: right answer for that. But and not always.

1041
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 4: But in my opinion, people that I like that they

1042
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 4: say that because everything in their life is motherfucking fake.

1043
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 4: So because nothing in your life is real, everybody else

1044
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: got to be fake.

1045
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: Right, So I mean, it's just there's, like I said,

1046
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: there's so much imagery stuff in there. I mean, and

1047
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: it yah, and like everything reminds me of something else

1048
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: in that video, Like it's like it's brilliance in a

1049
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: way you know, it's brilliance in a way because of

1050
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: all the imagery and shit in there and what is

1051
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: going to mean to different people? And with a lot

1052
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: of shit, he does black people talking it to death?

1053
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: You know, white people for the most part, I don't

1054
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: expect them to even get it or understand it. Now,

1055
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: let's talk about some hypocrisy though. Okay, let's talk about

1056
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: something a little bit. What did you like about get Out?

1057
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: Can't have black trauma, can't have violence, can't have you know,

1058
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: create a marriage to a white woman. But when it

1059
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: came time for the Oscars, weren't we all for the

1060
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: most part, if you took a pole or test, most

1061
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: black people are like, this shit need to win over

1062
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 2: that motherfucking white dancing movie.

1063
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 3: Well, did that not just happen?

1064
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: Was that not a thing that we all in that

1065
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: we all set up there and experience together, or did

1066
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: I make that up? Because I don't remember all these

1067
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: hot fire critiques of I don't like to see black

1068
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: trauma on the screen.

1069
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:09,959
Speaker 3: I remember people being like.

1070
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: Yo, this is good, Like this is an important movie.

1071
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 2: It's don't put it into comedy category because it ain't

1072
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: no funny about it.

1073
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: Y'all niggas need to sit with this and understand. I

1074
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: remember that it.

1075
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 2: Made so much money right to Pember Butterfly. Motherfuckers was mad.

1076
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: This shit ain't win that goddamn Grammy over Macamore. But

1077
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to believe suddenly black people was afraid of Trauma.

1078
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 2: The goddamn album is Trauma. It should be named Trauma,

1079
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: Trauma the album. Come on, all kendricks shit, all kendredshit,

1080
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: good Kid, mad City, All this shit is. Niggas is

1081
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: dying around me, every skit is. This shit fucked up,

1082
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: This shit happened.

1083
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: Everything.

1084
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm abusing myself with drugs and women and alcohol because

1085
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: how am I supposed to cope with this?

1086
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: Where is the fucking hipocasy going on? Right now?

1087
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 2: I'm watching too people are als. I think that's why

1088
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: I had to get off of social media. People are

1089
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: lying to me my face and I'm like, like, are

1090
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: you Spider Man? You just waiting on the other spider

1091
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,959
Speaker 2: Man to show up? Because I know that you're full

1092
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: of shit. Right now, I watch you promote artists that

1093
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: talk about things like this, and you didn't have a

1094
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: problem until it was a person you didn't like. Come

1095
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: on now, you know, Kendrick also grew up in a

1096
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: two parent household. We not holding it against him, you know,

1097
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: We like it's different for him, So it's just it's

1098
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: weird to me, you know. Uh, you know, and I

1099
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: still remember. But you know what I'm I'm I'm also

1100
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: being a victim of the moment because I know this

1101
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: time will pass and people will let it go and

1102
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: y'all will probably be listening to shit in the club

1103
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: by fucking June. So I shouldn't even really take it

1104
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: too much to task because I remember when Humble came out,

1105
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: remember that whole controversy, and once again I was like, yeah, valid,

1106
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell you shouldn't feel a way about

1107
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: that line. And uh, he's still a man, he's still

1108
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: a straight man. He's gonna have some misogynistic views.

1109
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna he.

1110
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: Didn't name the song, you know, uh, like he didn't

1111
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: make it the wokes song in the world about women

1112
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: and shit. He tried, but it was still a different

1113
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 2: level of respectability he was promoting from his angle.

1114
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: Got it.

1115
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: I ain't eve about to fight you, but when that

1116
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: song come on, I mean, we had seventy two hours

1117
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: of this nigga ain't shit, and stop telling me he

1118
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 2: woke when he thinks these things. But when the beat drop,

1119
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: a Bob is about Bob's about dog like that, and

1120
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: this shit goes like sayings all the imagery of the

1121
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: video and shit as a song. If he wouldn't have

1122
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: never put the video out and just dropped the goddamn song,

1123
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: niggas would have been like, I mean, this shit goes.

1124
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's about, but it's this. It's dope.

1125
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: It's got some of this style and some of that

1126
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 2: style that nigga put that motherfucking that's the video.

1127
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: That video out. But guess what, ain't no gunshots in

1128
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 3: the song song.

1129
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: I've been listening to that ship on repeat, like, this

1130
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: shit goes if you're sitting in my house, so you

1131
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: so like, even with that, I think a lot of

1132
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: a lot of this is the prison of the moment,

1133
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 2: Like give it some time, give it a few days,

1134
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 2: somebody it'll pass, somebody else will say something and we'll

1135
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: get over that stupid shit. So yeah, but yeah, ultimately

1136
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: I think, uh, you know, I think the video. I

1137
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: think the video is jamming. I think it's jarring, but

1138
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be. You don't have to like it.

1139
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 3: I get it. If you're over that, you're over that. No, don't.

1140
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 2: I'm not gaslighting anybody, but I just know where niggas

1141
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: is lying about some of these things.

1142
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 3: It's trauma, and it's okay when you like it.

1143
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: Like people that like Atlanta, we're talking about this video

1144
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: is too much and I'm like Atlanta where it.

1145
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 3: Was a murder suicide three weeks ago? What what?

1146
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: What is happening every week on Atlanta? Some crazy, traumatic,

1147
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: deadly shit happens. One of the beautiful things about Atlanta

1148
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: is that you have a show that is saying, while

1149
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: there's some surrealism and enjoy to be found in blackness,

1150
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 2: it's against this horror landscape all the time. You know

1151
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: it was going back to season one. It's not just

1152
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: like people like to think season one was silly and

1153
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: it none of you rewatch it, like maybe you got

1154
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: a few more jokes than you were new to this world.

1155
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: But Nigga, somebody gets shot in the first episode. Second

1156
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: episode is spent with Earned wondering the whole night if

1157
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: he's gonna end up going to fucking jail for something

1158
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: he didn't do.

1159
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: Just being there, go to jail, you know what I mean?

1160
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: Like this, Like some of these things are mundane horror,

1161
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: but they are horror to us who live through them.

1162
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: So I think the show's always been quote unquote triggering.

1163
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: So I don't know, like, aren't we, you know, aren't

1164
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: we always kind of constantly dealing with this shit?

1165
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: But only certain black people get.

1166
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: To talk about it. I don't think so so. And

1167
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: like I said, nobody can really cancel anyone. So it's

1168
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: not even like a defense of his work or not,

1169
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: because if you don't like him or you don't like

1170
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: his work, that's up to you. You know, there's a

1171
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: lot of people who shit I don't like and other

1172
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: people don't. I don't like the Lego movie. There I

1173
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: said it.

1174
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: I love the Lego movie.

1175
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: Everybody loves the Lego movie.

1176
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: Them shits make me laugh every mother fucking time.

1177
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm here for it.

1178
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: It's a ninety nine percent on fucking Rotten Tomatoes, And

1179
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm the one percent like I like,

1180
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: I get it.

1181
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm not even arguing that I'm right or whatever.

1182
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: I literally just I understand and I'm not trying to

1183
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: make it your problem that I don't like it, Like

1184
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: I get it, you know. So the other thing I

1185
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: thought about throughout this shit too, if you juxtapose this

1186
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: with like Kanye West, right, that's the other thing black

1187
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: people have been talking about, Like this is America to

1188
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: me is a a dope comment commentary on black life.

1189
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: You know, And if you don't like him or he

1190
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: said something fucked up or whatever, I get it, Like

1191
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: you're not gonna let it go. But but but we

1192
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: could all just not talk about it if we thought

1193
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: it was that bad. You know, we thought it was

1194
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: that because I feel like we people perform to a

1195
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: certain level. And I think that's the thing I realized

1196
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: with the show that I that, uh, the way I

1197
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: view life is like somebody does something and the rest

1198
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: of us siphon off of it. So even us talking

1199
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: about his video right now, Donald Glover gave us this content,

1200
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: even people who's entire Twitter life has become about this video.

1201
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: He gave you that content. You know, Like what would

1202
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: you do if it wasn't for him?

1203
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: You know, like talking something, right, You've been talking about

1204
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: some of shit, so like even that, because it's not

1205
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: like these motherfuckers ever take the time out to say

1206
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: some positive shit or talk about who they do support

1207
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: or which artists they do fuck with, cause they know

1208
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 2: that everyone's problematic and they've made a living being like

1209
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: everything's problematic, so that last thing they want to do

1210
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: is get caught liking some shit because if you like

1211
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: some shit song, gonna come along because that's your brand

1212
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: and tell you why you shouldn't like it, because that's

1213
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 2: what you do, you know, So I get that you

1214
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: know that energy and whatnot, especially like, like I said,

1215
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: coming off of the Kanye shit, I think last week

1216
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: I was so fucked with by the Kanye shit because

1217
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: to me, it was so easy to be like, I'm

1218
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: just not going to take him seriously because I've never

1219
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: really taken Kanye seriously and I'm just gonna keep moving

1220
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: because I've said on this show so many times he

1221
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: is the pro blackness what Megan Kelly is to feminism,

1222
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 2: and I've meant it every time I said it, and

1223
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: people agree with me every time I see it. And

1224
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: so I thought, maybe everybody for the most part out

1225
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 2: here understands we need to collectively kind of be like, yeah,

1226
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: that's just Kanye saying some more wild shit that we

1227
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: should just like that should not change my life. But

1228
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: then this morning, man, my man, Randolf terran shout to

1229
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: Randolph three guys on. He linked me to a piece

1230
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: tanaha see coach.

1231
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 3: Wrote about Kanye and I I want to read it.

1232
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 3: I do. I can't bring myself to read it, man,

1233
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: cause I'm.

1234
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: Like this nigga don't read books.

1235
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: Come on, man, you've written more books than this nigga's read.

1236
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: What are we doing.

1237
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna drop a nuke on a fucking dude with

1238
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: a pistol next, there's no point for this.

1239
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 3: Fuck him. Let's move on. Wait till the goddamn it

1240
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 3: I don't come out, we'll talk about that. Come on, man.

1241
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: It blew me so hard.

1242
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: I was like, for real, Tanna Hazie, you came down

1243
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: from the mountain on high to waste time on this nigga.

1244
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: You didn't even want to talk about Rachel Dola's out.

1245
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: You talk about this nigga?

1246
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: Why oh.

1247
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 3: Ah?

1248
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: Because I refuse to believe Tannahaze Coast is on Facebook

1249
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: like the rest of y'all. Have an excuse, y'all got

1250
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: some uncle on Facebook talking about how Kanye is right.

1251
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: I refuse the believe that Tanna Hazie coast is.

1252
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 2: Around people on social media and shit telling him how

1253
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: Kanye got a point.

1254
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 3: I refuse to fucking believe it. That is not why

1255
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 3: he wrote that shit. Come on, man, all this shit

1256
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 3: going on in the world.

1257
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 2: Some it couldn't be us. It couldn't be us. I

1258
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: know it was important to black people. I do because

1259
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: we even we had to.

1260
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 3: Talk about it.

1261
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: But I'm just so sick and tired of this nigga.

1262
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: He don't read books, y'all. He put out a song

1263
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: talking about Poopie schoop and we still are having a

1264
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: conversation about this. Dude, what is having a save your words,

1265
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: save your energy. We don't even need to waste it

1266
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: on this shit. Oh it's not even like fun in

1267
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 2: an entertaining way. Like it's just a waste of everyone's time.

1268
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: I started, Man, I've tried to read that shit. I'm

1269
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: not lying'll, I've tried to read that shit six times.

1270
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: And I get to, like the third pair of Guy

1271
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: by Michael Jackson, I'm like, no, why why.

1272
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:38,959
Speaker 3: Do we care?

1273
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: Not Kanye?

1274
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 2: No, we can't do this for him. He really did it.

1275
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: He changed everything, all right? So back to Donald Glover.

1276
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 2: The other thing I noticed let's talk about the flip

1277
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: flopping again. Let's get to the let's get to the hipocricy.

1278
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: People was mad that they were calling Donald Glover shit

1279
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: g and calling him a genius. Now I shouldn't.

1280
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 3: Say so much that they were mad. What I really

1281
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 3: mean is they were mad because they don't like him

1282
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 3: more than likely.

1283
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,479
Speaker 2: But it's really hard to deny that he's some type

1284
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: of genius because saying's your ass liking him? He's still

1285
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: out here doing his thing and prolifically like in acting,

1286
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: performing musically and writing like he's not like, come on now,

1287
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: we're not gonna let's not do this.

1288
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead, give the devil his due.

1289
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: You don't fuck with him, but his genius as the

1290
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 2: way that we typically seem to define genius throughout the

1291
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: entertainment industry kind of hard to question it. Kind of

1292
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: hard to question it. But okay, cool, you don't like

1293
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: that he got called a genius. Kanye Wests been calling

1294
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: himself Virginias for fucking fifteen years, right, so it's in

1295
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 2: every article about him, is the self proclaimed genius. Right

1296
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: so there people start saying shit like yeah, so it's

1297
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: kind of that's funny. How we only call men genius,

1298
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: and we only call black black man geniuses, but no

1299
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: black women.

1300
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 3: And I went, damn, is that real?

1301
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: Is that true?

1302
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 3: Have we not?

1303
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: Because you know, exist in a small circle, you know,

1304
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times y'all can hearn on this

1305
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: podcast and heard us talk about Beyonce's genius, you know,

1306
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: like to meet Serena Williams genius to meet? But who

1307
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: ava de Verne's genius, Rihanna genius, Easter Ray's genius?

1308
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: You know?

1309
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: To me, I maybe I throw it around too much,

1310
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: but I actually the term is not used enough for

1311
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 2: my taste to be honest, Right, everybody, there's a lot

1312
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: of different types of genius, is right.

1313
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: We make it seem like a prestigious thing. But what

1314
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 3: I what I see here is genius.

1315
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: I think what happens here is genius in reference to

1316
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: the white gaze, Like are white people calling this person

1317
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: a genius?

1318
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: To which I mean, there's a very short list.

1319
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: Of people that are called geniuses by white people that

1320
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,479
Speaker 2: are not white. So I don't even know if that

1321
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: is funny. Because one of the criticism is videos is

1322
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: that is obsessed with the white gaze, right, right, But

1323
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: then when you're upset that he got calledge genius. You're

1324
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: obsessed with the white gays right when you're when you're

1325
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,479
Speaker 2: worried about who's not being called genius. We're talking about

1326
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: white people in their awards and the things they do,

1327
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: right we Here's here's the big secret. All of us

1328
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: are obsessed with the white gaze because we have to

1329
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: be to survived. It doesn't mean you have to worship

1330
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: it or covet it or whatever, but you got to

1331
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: be obsessed with it because your literal survival.

1332
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 3: Is based upon it.

1333
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: The white gaze is calling the cops on niggas for

1334
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: standing on the street mind their business. They calling the

1335
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: cops on black women for bringing their bags out for airbnbie.

1336
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 3: That's the white gaze too.

1337
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 2: You know these neighborhood fucking internet sites, so it's like

1338
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: your neighborhood dot com.

1339
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 3: That's the white gaze, you know.

1340
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: So even your obsession with him doing this music knowing

1341
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 2: white people will consume it is your obsession with the

1342
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: white gays as much as it's his. The reason that

1343
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: y'all felt uncomfortable with Leslie Jones on sn L but

1344
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: not Leslie Jones at the comedy club white people, because

1345
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: we don't like when white people see our shit, our pain,

1346
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 2: our struggle, our upsetness, our trauma.

1347
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 3: We don't like when they consume it.

1348
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,479
Speaker 2: You know, whether it make someone rich or not, it's

1349
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 2: ultimately we don't like that feeling.

1350
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 3: It's uneasy. The thing is, they will consume you, whether

1351
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 3: you agree to it or not. They will consume it

1352
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 3: whether you lean into that shit or not.

1353
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: You know, So if you want to have a message

1354
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: in your song, that's gonna talk about it.

1355
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what these examples.

1356
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 2: I would love to see some examples of people that

1357
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: supposedly talked about the black traumatic experience in America but

1358
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 2: didn't invoke their own trauma or said nothing and nothing

1359
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: triggering happened in their songs or their videos. I'd love

1360
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 2: to see that work, but I highly doubt that it

1361
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: exists because or if it does exist, it's gonna feel toothless,

1362
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: you know, like niggas like anyway. But yeah, that obsession

1363
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 2: with the white gays. So what I did today was

1364
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 2: I googled genius in certain people's names because I wanted

1365
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: to see if it was true. The truth of the

1366
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: matter is, it's not that many people calling Donald Glover

1367
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,480
Speaker 2: a genius. Like on Google, I went to the headlines

1368
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: because I want to see like the genius of Donald

1369
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 2: Glover shit like that. It's not that many too, maybe

1370
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 2: and I've retweeted and I'm not retweeted. I put on

1371
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: Facebook every article I found where I saw like in

1372
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: the headlines so and so as a genius. I think

1373
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: I found two for Donald Glover. I found a few

1374
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 2: for Kanye, but they were mostly Jordan of like this

1375
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 2: Nigga thing, he a genius. Beyonce had a few called

1376
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: you know, and one of them was and the thing

1377
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: with Beyonce though that I found funny. A lot of

1378
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: her genius articles would try to tie jay Z into it, right,

1379
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: but there were a few that gave her her solid

1380
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: you know, like she's a genius. BT apparently had a

1381
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 2: show called Genius. They had Isray Avid Verne.

1382
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: On it where they interviewed them.

1383
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: Rihanna was called a cosmetic genius by an article I found.

1384
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: It also called her something else vocally that a lot

1385
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: of people disagree with. In my comments, I see you

1386
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 2: shady motherfuckers, you know, like Shonda Rhime's.

1387
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 3: Like, there's like there are people.

1388
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: I think there are people who are flip flopping on

1389
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: this with the whole Well, y'all don't never call nobody

1390
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: a genius but black men, That's actually not true, you know,

1391
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: Like the the thing is they.

1392
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 3: Don't really respect any of our genius quote unquote.

1393
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 2: So I was more shocked and surprised at how little

1394
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: it was used in reference to black people.

1395
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 3: Period, because I'm like, SHAWNA.

1396
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: Runs don't have forty seven Like if I put it

1397
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: in genans, I just feel like the entire fucking.

1398
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 3: Like Google the G, the Old, the Old, the.

1399
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: G, the L, and the E should all I should

1400
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: not be able to find an article that doesn't call

1401
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 2: her a genius.

1402
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,959
Speaker 3: It's so weird that even.

1403
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: People that I consider to be lynchpins of our society,

1404
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 2: of our cultural like touchstones, not called genans, you know,

1405
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: like all this work.

1406
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 3: Like they were calling James Franco aegenians five years.

1407
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 2: Ago for doing that movie where he cut off his

1408
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 2: arm and ate it or some shit. I never saw

1409
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: that movie, but y'all know the movie like he wanted

1410
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: to Oscar. I think maybe they were calling him a

1411
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: renaissance man and a genius. Remember that James Franco, you know,

1412
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: like Seth Rogan's friend, Like I remember that, and now

1413
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know.

1414
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 3: I was really disappointed.

1415
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: Like when I see I think, who can't think of

1416
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: nothing but excellence with Beyonce. Like, while we're giving props

1417
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: to Donald Glover and Cardi B and Ja Cole and

1418
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 2: all these people that rolled out their stuff viral and shit,

1419
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 2: we're giving them a lot of credit.

1420
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 3: I still haven't seen anybody fucking with Beyonce. Period. Still

1421
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 3: ain't seen nobody fucking with Beyonce.

1422
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: Whether you want to go to Beachella, right, Beachella was

1423
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:44,480
Speaker 2: just just changed the whole atmosphere of everything, memes, clothing,

1424
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: fucking niggas standing up there four in the morning, you know,

1425
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: like she changed everything.

1426
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: She just came down from the same mountain.

1427
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: Town of Hosey Coast as at except it's taller and

1428
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: a little bit further to the south because she likes

1429
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: a one on climate. She came down from her mountain

1430
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: on how blessed us for a second, disappeared, blessed us

1431
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 2: with a perfect show that she clearly had been working

1432
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:14,560
Speaker 2: on to make a masterpiece, a perfectionist masterpiece.

1433
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 3: She fucking did that, and just all right, y'all see

1434
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 3: y'all on tour.

1435
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 4: Right, come on, I'm anxious because I know an album

1436
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 4: about to drop.

1437
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: She about to yeah something.

1438
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1439
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 4: It's one of them things where you be like, I

1440
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 4: know something about to happen, because, particularly with them going

1441
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 4: on tour, you go, oh, I think an album gonna

1442
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 4: drop right before they go on tour.

1443
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 3: Dog letting off.

1444
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 2: The the the self titled album, when she just dropped

1445
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: it after Scandal on a Thursday, right, like world stop right.

1446
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 3: She just does these things like.

1447
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,959
Speaker 1: Information fucked up our Saturday.

1448
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 4: We had went to go get something to eat, came back,

1449
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 4: and for the next five hours we was watching it out.

1450
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: Just did that like it knew it before the next

1451
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,839
Speaker 2: day does the Super Bowl, she doing formation at halftime.

1452
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: We're like, oh my god, what the fuck.

1453
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: So it's just like it's odd to me that even

1454
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 2: when you put Beyonce into Google, every every page genius.

1455
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: So I just don't think they respect black genius no

1456
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,879
Speaker 2: matter who it comes from, because the excellence of blackness

1457
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 2: is around us everywhere twice as hard, half as much.

1458
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: We all know the mantra, but it just I don't

1459
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: know that shit just kind of sucked the air out

1460
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: of me because at first, all was expect I mean,

1461
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: to be honest, I was expecting to find a bunch

1462
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: of articles saying a bunch of men were geniuses that

1463
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 2: were black, and almost nothing saying black women were genius

1464
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 2: is and I was gonna probably be disappointed, like that

1465
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: is fuck, that's another slight, another level of this, like

1466
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: you know, not only are we fucking with you because

1467
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 2: you're black, but we gotta.

1468
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 3: Fuck with you because you a woman.

1469
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 2: You know. But it's even worse than I thought, because

1470
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: it's like they don't respect nobody as a genius. Even

1471
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 2: the people that you people are claiming are always called genius.

1472
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 2: His aren't like what Donald Gover is definitely having his

1473
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: moment in the light right now, his moment in the sun.

1474
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 2: One article two baby, it was like, what the fuck

1475
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: is this shit?

1476
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 3: I was almost mad. I was like, y'all niggas is

1477
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 3: complaining and I'm not.

1478
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 2: I want to go out there and be bombarded with

1479
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: like damn, they all own this niggas. Dick Jesus Christ,

1480
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 2: calm I love Donald, but y'all gotta calm down, you know,

1481
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 2: like that.

1482
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 3: And I was like two articles with.

1483
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 1: The fuck white people I thought, I still y'all.

1484
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 2: Man, But I think he really heard a lot of

1485
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: white people way back in the day when he came

1486
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 2: out with Camp, and I don't know that.

1487
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't think it's ever been the same for him.

1488
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, them hippie people used to love him.

1489
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, campaiginn't exactly not problematic. Don't get me wrong. He

1490
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: got some it's a bunch of shit in there. But

1491
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 2: at the same time, some of my main things that

1492
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: I liked about it was him basically coming out as like,

1493
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: I know what kind of black person y'all think I am,

1494
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: white people, I'm not that nigga, Like, I don't help

1495
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't hate fellow fellow black people. I know that

1496
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: you're racist, and I pick up on all this shit.

1497
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: And up until that point, I think they thought that

1498
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: whole childish gambino was like a joke kind of thing.

1499
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 2: He was doing like some oh he thinks he's Little

1500
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 2: Wayne type shit. And then he dropped Camp, and I

1501
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: remember Pitchfork gave that nigga like a one point six

1502
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: because they was I think them white people was mad,

1503
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 2: like he set in these rooms with us. We watched

1504
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: him before, we've pretended to like him. And then this

1505
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 2: nigga came out and was like, by the way, y'all

1506
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 2: white people ain't shit liberal, not liberal, hippie not hippie.

1507
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 3: Y'all ain't shit.

1508
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 4: Right, You're not not racist because you got.

1509
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 3: Right.

1510
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 2: Like so I think that shit bothered them, you know,

1511
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 2: like he like there was a level of him saying like, yes,

1512
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: I get that I seem weird to other.

1513
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 3: Black people, but I'm still a nigga.

1514
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: Surprised, you know, and I just you know, like I said,

1515
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 2: there's been grudges held against that nigga forever.

1516
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: But you know what is amazing, how.

1517
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 4: When black people did all black actually be like, hey,

1518
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 4: I'm black.

1519
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: White people they go, I'll dare.

1520
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 4: You, And I'm like, well, you know, what's been a

1521
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 4: nigga dancing in.

1522
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: Front of you. I don't understand why you shot that.

1523
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 3: They said, I'm a nigga. This is America, Karen. You

1524
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 3: see what I'm saying like this.

1525
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 4: Big hips and all of a sudden, it's like, oh

1526
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 4: my god, she said she was black.

1527
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 2: Yes, how cool was Beyonce until till she went Beyonce

1528
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: on the ass? Well, she was altayly talking about like

1529
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 2: my negro nose, what baby hair afro? They was like,

1530
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: excuse me, I thought this feminism for everybody. I didn't

1531
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: know this was some black shit, you know. And so

1532
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 2: But but up until that point, a lot of people

1533
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: have been very like, she's a great pop star, she's

1534
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: very talented, we love ya. You run the girl world,

1535
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 2: Girls in her lane quote unquote right the second she

1536
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 2: let them know, Guys, I don't know if you've picked

1537
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: up the clues throughout my career, but I've always been

1538
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: a nigga.

1539
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 3: They were like, he's I was in your bag?

1540
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: Why for what's the potato salad?

1541
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: Tu plead? It's a nigga from Texas? What are you

1542
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 1: talking about?

1543
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: Dow right?

1544
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 2: So, I think that shit disturb and I and you know,

1545
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 2: in a weird way, Donald Glover found himself as a

1546
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: man without a home for a second, because back then,

1547
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: niggas had this attitude of why he wear these short shorts.

1548
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 2: He thinks he better than us, And that is a

1549
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: real rational fear that we as black people have about

1550
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 2: certain type of black people, the quote unquote blurred community. Uh,

1551
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: the upper class black the brunch crowd, the people that

1552
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: put trap in front of everything, like there are there's

1553
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 2: a distrust between different factions of black people about that

1554
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 2: kind of shit.

1555
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 3: Sad.

1556
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: I think most of us misplaced and sad, to be honest,

1557
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: And I think it's another thing white supremacy has robbed

1558
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 2: us of those are still our brothers and sisters, and

1559
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: they should, we should be able to see each other,

1560
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: but we can't.

1561
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 4: Right And and like I said, I think everybody used

1562
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 4: blackness different, and everybody's trying to navigate white supremacy the

1563
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 4: best they can. But for me, you could be all

1564
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 4: of this. You could be black and be into any

1565
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:34,839
Speaker 4: fucking thing. Goddamn I brunch.

1566
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's also kind of ridiculous because it's like if

1567
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 2: niggas do a trap brunch, because they go to these

1568
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: white spaces and they're ostracized or treated less than or

1569
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable, so they say, let's do something black. We'll

1570
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: call it trap, we'll make it fun, play music in

1571
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 2: the background, and shit, we'll have a good time, accelerate

1572
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 2: our blackness. Then you've got a whole other group of

1573
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: black people on the internet that never leave their house

1574
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,839
Speaker 2: that are like you, nigga, put trap in front of everything.

1575
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm so sick of this and I'm like, and it's like,

1576
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 2: because you don't know anything about a trap house, You've

1577
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: never I'm like, what, what what makes you think any

1578
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: group of black people have made it so far out

1579
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: of poverty intergenerationally? It that quick that none of them

1580
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 2: have experienced any hardships growing up, None of them experienced

1581
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: any hardships as adults, none of them are related to

1582
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: people who experienced hardships. None like they're performing poverty like

1583
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: it's but see, that's the code of the internet. Though,

1584
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 2: That's that shit that I'm trying to get away from,

1585
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 2: cause that's something like I have to have an opinion

1586
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: and I'm not leaving my house type shit.

1587
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 4: Right, And I'm trying to tell you right now, you

1588
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 4: let a motherfucking trap brunch be here, my ass is

1589
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,799
Speaker 4: gonna be there with the mimosa in the air, twerking

1590
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 4: what that shit sound like?

1591
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna be flames eating my French toast.

1592
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 3: Right, It's all right.

1593
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: I just like, I mean, like I'm and I'm not

1594
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 2: even that type of person to be like, I have

1595
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: to go to this thing, but I also don't care.

1596
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 3: It's just black people being black doing black shit.

1597
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: They like, I don't know why we had to turn

1598
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 2: it into they go to trap yoga, but then they

1599
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 2: leave and they turn their nose up at the.

1600
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 3: Other blacks, Like, is that really what's happening? For real?

1601
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: Niggas go to brunch? But like, why do we have

1602
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 2: to we have to believe in the separation. I feel

1603
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: like that is why supremacy. They want us to believe

1604
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 2: in that shit. They want us to believe that we

1605
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 2: hate each other so that we won't be together, you know,

1606
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: Like meanwhile, we need each other because they not gonna

1607
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 2: ever come help us.

1608
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 3: All we got is us yoga to help your ass,

1609
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 3: just as much as you need the nigga.

1610
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: At fucking Whole Foods or the nigga that work at

1611
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 2: fucking Lows or the nigga Like if it ain't for us,

1612
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: if it wasn't for us, what would we be?

1613
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 3: Y'all?

1614
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: We got And people have a tendency not to understand that.

1615
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know, man, I I get it.

1616
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 2: But it's just exhausted, you know, I get it.

1617
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, it really is.

1618
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 3: You know, I ain't mad at nobody. I get it.

1619
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 2: It's just it's just fucking exhausted. Man, I'm tired. You know,

1620
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 2: tired of this shit, But this is America really for me?

1621
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 2: Like I said, I've been speaking for myself when it

1622
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 2: comes to interpretation of the video. Does this is America

1623
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: spoke to me in that way? It just made me

1624
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: think about all the bullshit that is this country. And

1625
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 2: I was still expected to go through this shit. You know,

1626
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:47,839
Speaker 2: we're still expected to perform, We're still expected to rise above,

1627
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: We're still expected to dance, We're still expected to smile,

1628
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: we're still expected to coon. You know, we're still expected

1629
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: despite all this shit. In twenty eighteen, this is the

1630
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,959
Speaker 2: backdrop of the country. So that shit felt like America

1631
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 2: to me. And I understand if you don't like him,

1632
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: or you don't like his work, or if you don't

1633
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 2: like the video. I'm not trying to tell people what

1634
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 2: to think. That was what was lost.

1635
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 3: I think in.

1636
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 2: In all the commentary was just people trying to control

1637
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: the narrative.

1638
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 3: You know, some dude hit me up this more.

1639
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 2: I don't follow me, I don't know him, out of

1640
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 2: know her hit me up on Twitter. It was like, yeah,

1641
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: cis hit. People are so easily impressed. And I was like,

1642
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 2: you know what, man, Okay, you got it.

1643
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1644
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: That's what it's got to be there, you know, blocked

1645
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: obviously because we don't follow each other, and that was

1646
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 2: weird to come higher at me fourteen hours after I

1647
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: said that shit but cool.

1648
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1649
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 2: It's not like I said, Hey, all gay people need

1650
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: to like this, all nonsense at people.

1651
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 3: I was speaking for myself. Hey, I could see.

1652
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: What was funny is the thread was literally saying, hey,

1653
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: I can see more than one determination to this.

1654
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: It didn't even say like, guys, there's only one way

1655
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 3: to view this.

1656
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 2: My thread was like, I actually can kind of see

1657
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 2: the side of people that're like, yo, I don't fuck

1658
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 2: with this video, and I can see the side of hey,

1659
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: this is what it meant to me, you know.

1660
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 3: But still motherfuckers want to control the narrative.

1661
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 2: And I think the thing I realize more than anything

1662
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 2: at the moment is how much social media has given

1663
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 2: us this fake ability to control our own narratives. Even

1664
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: my ability to block that person and say, look, I

1665
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 2: don't know what else you're on, but I don't want

1666
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: to start out on a confrontation with you. So I

1667
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: see your point, But also goodbye, don't be in my

1668
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: mentions anymore, because clearly you didn't come here in good faith,

1669
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 2: and only something bad could have sparked from that interaction.

1670
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 2: And I understand that that's Twitter and context doesn't matter

1671
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 2: and you can do whatever you want to do with it.

1672
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 2: But I don't have to be part of your story,

1673
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 2: you know. But I do feel like people think, but

1674
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: because we've decided who we follow, who we let follow us,

1675
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 2: we control all the stories and that the stories all

1676
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: have to cater specifically to us or they're trash. And

1677
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 2: you can, you can view it that way, but that's

1678
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: so not life, and it's not where I come from.

1679
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 2: It's not what I believe in, you know, Like I

1680
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: have to allow for it, you know, even the way

1681
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 2: we look at you know, some of these circles in

1682
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 2: the way people look at privilege where it's like, well,

1683
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: if a black person says something and then a white

1684
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 2: person says the opposite, well, a black person must always

1685
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 2: be right because they're black, and the white person needs

1686
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: to always bow down indifference to that and respect the

1687
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: black person. And that situation where I'm like, no, because

1688
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: if I'm in a room and Kanye West is in

1689
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: there and I don't know who.

1690
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 3: The white person is y'all pick the white person. Chris Evans.

1691
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: Chris Evans is in there, and Kanye West says slavery

1692
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: was a choice. I'm perfectly fine with Chris e saying, Man,

1693
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 2: what the fuck you just say? Of course slavery wasn't

1694
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 2: a choice. That's ridiculous, Kanye.

1695
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not Captain America right.

1696
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, Chris Evans, Now you are talking to

1697
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 2: a black man, you will let him have his opinion

1698
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 2: and you will leave it alone. I don't care if

1699
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 2: it don't make sense. You are still white. I don't

1700
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: believe in that. So yeah, if sometimes a white person

1701
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 2: says the shit don't like makes sense to me, fine,

1702
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 2: sometimes a black person says some shit and I'm like,

1703
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: this nigga is crazy. You know, it happens, and I

1704
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 2: know that that's real for more than just me. But

1705
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 2: yet social media was giving me this this feeling of

1706
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 2: like you can't even say that anymore, Like you can't

1707
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 2: say this black person.

1708
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 3: Is being ridiculous right now.

1709
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean all the time they're ridiculous, but

1710
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 2: this thing they just said was ridiculous, you know. So

1711
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 2: it's but anyway, point being like, uh, this is America

1712
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: brought all that shit to service man, And I don't

1713
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: know when I'm coming back necessarily put it on my

1714
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 2: phone again or whatever, but.

1715
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 3: You know, I'll check in. I try to check in

1716
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 3: with my.

1717
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 2: When we post to show stuff like that from sitting

1718
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 2: at a laptop or something. Maybe I'll hop on but

1719
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 2: maybe we're alive to the show or something if I

1720
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: can find time.

1721
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 3: But like, I don't know, man, Like I was really like,

1722
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 3: should I just delete my account?

1723
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 2: What the fuck is wrong with niggas? And it wasn't

1724
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: just this is a culmination of shit. It's just always

1725
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: a fire to put out. And I really feel like

1726
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 2: it's because we is so much pain and trauma, especially

1727
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 2: since twenty sixteen, but even way before that, and none

1728
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: of us, not none of us, but there's a lot

1729
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 2: of self examination that would need to happen and take

1730
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,799
Speaker 2: place for us to let that go, because that anger

1731
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: and that chastising and that you need to see in

1732
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 2: my way or the highway, that shit is trauma playing out.

1733
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 2: You know, to see people talk about this video being traumatic,

1734
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 2: the main people I saw some of that are the

1735
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 2: main people I see being traumatic on fucking social.

1736
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 3: Media all day, every day.

1737
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: They were the main people like, I'm like, nigga, your

1738
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: whole timeline is trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma.

1739
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 2: And what about me and my trauma? This, nigga, don't

1740
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: get to do it. What you got to monopoly on it?

1741
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: You think you're the only one, brother, Nah, all of us,

1742
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 2: all of us, even the ones you think are not yes,

1743
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 2: them two, even the coons, Dog, you understand, even the.

1744
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 4: Cooning out of trauma. And it's all everything we do

1745
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 4: in America. If you're not white, everything you do has

1746
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 4: some connection to white supremacy. A lot of people fail

1747
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 4: to realize that. And it's one of the things where

1748
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 4: that shit will drive you crazy if.

1749
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: You allow it to.

1750
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, I respect it, but come on, man,

1751
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 2: come on man, some people out here lying. Dog. So

1752
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 2: I'm actually not gonna do anything else with the show today.

1753
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: I just wanted to talk about this. This is all

1754
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about.

1755
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: This is what I've been listening to.

1756
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: I just been this is why I've been in my

1757
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: head for a fucking at least twenty four hours on this.

1758
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: Yesterday didn't seem like a good time to talk about

1759
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 2: it because Jel's a hate ass nigga. For one, we

1760
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 2: didn't need no coon, we need no coon opinions involved

1761
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: in this discussion, but also would have detracted from promoting

1762
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: his show, I know. And also, if we're real real,

1763
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 2: it was too soon.

1764
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 3: To talk about it, you know.

1765
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: That was the other thing. Everybody was rushing to talk

1766
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: about this shit. You know, it's like my joke. I

1767
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 2: don't do it anymore, but the joke I used to

1768
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 2: always do on Twitter, which was somebody was I should

1769
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: do it again because now I'm laughing thinking about it.

1770
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: But somebody would put an album out at like midnight,

1771
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 2: and then I would wait till like twelve o three.

1772
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 3: I'd be like, just heard.

1773
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 2: The song the first song, yo, five star five mics, nigga,

1774
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 2: this shit a classic, the blueprint seven best album jay

1775
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: Z ever did, And then motherfucker's would be mad, like

1776
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 2: you don't know that y'all can even even listen to it. Listen,

1777
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: I just skipped tracks. I just go five seconds of

1778
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 2: this track. I could tell if I said, if it's

1779
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 2: gonna be a hit, so oh yo, that song of classic,

1780
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 2: like motherfuckersould be mad as hell. But it was just

1781
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 2: a commentary on the ridiculousness of the immediacy of our

1782
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 2: opinions on everything, right, one't got to have an opinion. Man,

1783
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 2: I don't know even now, I'm telling you, I don't

1784
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: know everything that happened in the fucking video, and I

1785
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 2: don't need to.

1786
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 3: I got what I got out of it. Cool.

1787
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 2: You get what you get out of it, that's cool.

1788
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 2: You don't like it, that's also cool. You steal my

1789
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: nigga if you don't like it. You know, it feels

1790
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 2: like we come full circle sixteen hundred souls later, because

1791
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 2: I still remember when I got accused of being the

1792
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 2: coat of Rod and making people like Donald Glover. Child's

1793
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 2: gonna being the only fans that go way back with

1794
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 2: this show, remember that way back, Like you really had

1795
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: to be listening to us a long time if you

1796
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 2: remember that shit, like, because I was like, could the

1797
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 2: sack this nigga is good? You know I remember that,

1798
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 2: And then people it was on Twitter like you're trying

1799
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 2: to make people like Donald Glove.

1800
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't.

1801
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 2: I just like the music, so you know, when I

1802
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 2: see other people liking it, it's because you don't like

1803
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 2: how popular do you think I am? That I can

1804
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 2: make a nigga like a song they don't like. If

1805
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 2: I had that superpower, guess what, nigga, I'd be rich.

1806
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: I'd be up there dancing and y'all be mad at me. Come,

1807
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 2: I have zero follow I'll be following zero on Twitter

1808
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 2: and I'd be.

1809
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 3: Just making y'all mad every week. If that's what the fuck?

1810
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 3: What shit?

1811
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 2: I wish I had that kind of influence. But I

1812
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 2: remember that we have come full circle.

1813
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 3: Dog.

1814
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: I remember that episode and being like, guys, I can't

1815
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 2: make anyone like Donald Glover, I just having to like

1816
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 2: his music the end, and look at us.

1817
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 3: Now I made all y'all like Donald Glover. I did it.

1818
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 3: I can finally admit the truth. Guys. Rod's the Cold

1819
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 3: of Rod is real.

1820
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 4: Okay, Now you can sit and watch the Sunrise.

1821
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 3: Rods playing it happened.

1822
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, you guys are all my coats. Send your

1823
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: money to the wanna pay Pal please, I would like to.

1824
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 2: I would like to be rich five and we don't

1825
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 2: take one. We don't take one. Some big bills, no change.

1826
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,799
Speaker 2: They gotta have faces on them, right, we need big faces.

1827
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 3: But I finally did it, y'all.

1828
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 2: I got y'all, I all like Donald Glover, which is

1829
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 2: apparently why it's trending on Twitter, and half the people

1830
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 2: are mad so because y'all all like him because of me.

1831
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 2: All right, guys, we'll be back tomorrow.

1832
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: Man.

1833
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna do so ratching this today. Okay,

1834
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 2: that's how good I feel right now.

1835
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 3: Okay, ain't got that off your chest.

1836
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 2: I needed to tell y'all this is my therapy today.

1837
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 2: Y'all understand, Karen. Thank you for listening, because I know

1838
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 2: I talked way too much today. I just I didn't

1839
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 2: want to just get this ruin your lunch talking about

1840
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 2: this shit.

1841
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 3: I was just saving it up for now. So that's it.

1842
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow.

1843
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 1: Man.

1844
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 3: This is America.

1845
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 2: Okay, this is America. Look straight up, this is America,

1846
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 2: and this is I needed to talk about this. I

1847
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 2: needed to do it in context. I can't talk about

1848
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 2: on social media. People take context out.

1849
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 3: Of everything there.

1850
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 2: People are so mad, oh angry, right people are. People

1851
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 2: are looking for a fight on social media. People wanted

1852
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,759
Speaker 2: to be one way and no other way. I needed

1853
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 2: a break, man, y'all with my break today. Thank you

1854
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 2: for listening. Sincerely, thank you, Karen, for letting me talk

1855
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 2: because I know it was a lot. It won't be

1856
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 2: like this tomorrow, I promise, and uh, you know.

1857
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 3: Well this I feel good.

1858
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad you do.

1859
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 2: I really felt bad for the last two days. I

1860
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 2: felt bad. People made me feel bad, you know what

1861
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 2: I mean, like just watching the obvious pain that people

1862
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 2: are in because they're lying to themselves. Because there's nothing

1863
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 2: this nigga can do to fix your life. You know,

1864
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 2: he could apologize tomorrow and you're still going to hate

1865
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 2: this nigga's guts and don't lie like me, you're lying

1866
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 2: to yourself. There's nothing this nigga can do you'll be

1867
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,679
Speaker 2: okay with So be honest with yourself and then you'll

1868
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 2: be okay. Like I just want everybody to be okay

1869
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 2: for themselves. Fuck me, fuck the internet, but y'all are right.

1870
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: Y'all are yelling past each other over some shit that

1871
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 2: don't matter in it Like in a week, this shit

1872
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 2: won't even matter.

1873
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 4: Because for me, at the end of the day, and

1874
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 4: maybe because I'm like you, you can see pain. I

1875
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 4: just want people to be at peace. And I think

1876
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 4: a lot of times people aren't piecing their mind. They're

1877
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 4: not at peace. In their mind, they're not at peace spiritually,

1878
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 4: they're just not at peace. And it comes across in

1879
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 4: various different ways. It comes across in social media with

1880
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 4: their family, with their friends, with their attitude, and when

1881
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 4: you're not at peace, some people might smoke and drink

1882
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 4: and have sex. But for some people, social media is

1883
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 4: an outlet, you know, because people do have these things

1884
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 4: that they kind of connect to to kind of get

1885
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 4: these things out, because what in you is gonna come

1886
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 4: out out, whatever it is that that anger ball can

1887
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 4: only bubble up, but for so long then eventually you

1888
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 4: gotta get it out. So you're gonna fuck it out,

1889
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 4: smoke it out, drink it out, You're gonna type it

1890
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 4: out on social media like some way it's going to

1891
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 4: get out. And I think for some people being on

1892
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 4: social media is their release mechanism.

1893
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: But I just see the pain and the tears and

1894
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: the crime because you always and it can get to.

1895
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 2: You because they're always mad. Like it's one thing when

1896
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 2: it's like this thing made me mad. It's another thing

1897
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 2: when I can log on look at your account and go,

1898
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna be mad about something, what is

1899
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 2: it today?

1900
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 3: Right? Cause then it's not the things that are happening.

1901
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:39,679
Speaker 3: It's you.

1902
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 2: You're the fire man, and something always gotta be on fire,

1903
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 2: always got a hold, Yeah, and you always got a

1904
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 2: fucking match too, though, how about that, you know what

1905
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean? So I just like I saw that, I

1906
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 2: felt it, I absorbed it. I hate absorbing bad negative energy.

1907
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 2: It literally makes me sick to my stomach. So like

1908
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 2: I just had to step away. I'm so glad to

1909
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 2: be here, and I had a context, and I had

1910
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 2: this outlet so that I don't have to worry about,

1911
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 2: you know, because not enough people listening to this truly

1912
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 2: that don't like us. We're not in that level yet

1913
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 2: where motherfuckers are listening to hate us yet. But but like,

1914
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 2: this is a place I can go where I can

1915
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: have context and be among people that at least gonna

1916
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 2: listen and understand that I'm only given my opinion and

1917
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 2: not telling someone.

1918
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 3: Else how to feel about that shit.

1919
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 2: And I think I got to everything I wanted to

1920
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: say about it because I've had this. I've been organizing

1921
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 2: these thoughts in my head all day. So all right,

1922
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 2: hopefully we won't have to talk about this tomorrow. We'll

1923
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 2: talk to y'all tomorrow.

1924
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 3: Until then, I love you.

1925
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: I love you too.