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Speaker 1: Please. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive on Daie Ally here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: Say Friday in Pittsburgh. The Steelers have put their first

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Speaker 1: week of O T A s in the books, and

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Speaker 1: uh they'll be going back at it again next Tuesday. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we won't be doing a show on Monday holiday weekend.

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Speaker 1: A yes, certainly, and we want to thank everybody who

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Speaker 1: has made Memorial Day possible. Um, let's get into the

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Speaker 1: football talk. Yeah, Mattam, I'm looking here. I've got a

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Speaker 1: thing on a a fel dot com. It's the ranking

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Speaker 1: the next Gen per the next Gen Stats, the top

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Speaker 1: ten disruptors in football last season. We're about defensive players,

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Speaker 1: defensive players who were the most disruptive. UM. And they're

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Speaker 1: again they're using next Gen stats here, so they're measuring

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Speaker 1: this by the number of disruptions that I guess would

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Speaker 1: be you know, run players run places that are stuffed

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Speaker 1: in the backfield, uh, sacks and quarterback hits. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if they make if you like, get in the backfield

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Speaker 1: and like the Shazier plays he used to make get

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Speaker 1: in the backfield, don't make the play, but you make

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Speaker 1: the running back stop his feed. You know, three yards

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Speaker 1: by the line of scrim age assudent that would count

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Speaker 1: to things like that. Uh So. Number ten on the

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Speaker 1: list is Robert Quinn. He's played well now, he only

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Speaker 1: had two sacks last year, but he had forty six

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Speaker 1: total disruptions, so his disruption rate was even though career resurgence,

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Speaker 1: he's been pretty good lately. The sack rate was only

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Speaker 1: point seven percent, but the disruption rate, he was very disruptive.

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Speaker 1: But he was at the Rams a year before. We

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Speaker 1: saw us with Leonard Floyd who went from Chicago to

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Speaker 1: the Rams. Everyone's number spikes when you're with the Rams

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Speaker 1: because you always get single coverage, and so there was

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Speaker 1: some worry about that with Quinn. But no, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's been even better. Number nine Rashaan Gary, Wow, I

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Speaker 1: didn't love him coming out of college. I didn't notice it. Well,

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Speaker 1: he only had he only had five sacks last year.

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Speaker 1: Now he only played four and thirty six of green

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Speaker 1: a disruption rate of fifteen point one percent. Uh. Again,

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Speaker 1: only the five sacks, but he you know, he made

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Speaker 1: of the outside guys. And Zadarius can kick in, Gary

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Speaker 1: that way. Number eight, Shack Barrett, He's legit. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: had sixty six total disruptions last year. His disruption he

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Speaker 1: was fifteen point two. Uh. He had eight sacks in

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Speaker 1: a sacred of one point eight percent. Not nearly the

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Speaker 1: year that he had that he had had for sure,

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Speaker 1: had Von Miller, of course, DeMarcus Ware and then they

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Speaker 1: he could be a full time guy. You know, really

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Speaker 1: thrived in Tampa obviously. Uh. Number seven guy that we've

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Speaker 1: He wasn't really a full time player for them. No,

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Speaker 1: I think he will be in New York. He will

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Speaker 1: be anyone remembers Robert Salow, the Jets new head coach,

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Speaker 1: Number six Aaron Donald UH seventy nine total disruptions. That's

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Speaker 1: a fifteen point five percent rate. He had thirteen and

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Speaker 1: time and through injuries and all those things. And I

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Speaker 1: know some people are around here although the pit ties

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Speaker 1: But he's unbelievable. He really is number five on the

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Speaker 1: list from last year. Bud Dupree. Bud Dupri had fifty

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Speaker 1: total disruptions. His disruption rate was fifteen point seven percent.

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Speaker 1: last year. A lot of impact plays to your point,

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Speaker 1: seven two seconds. Lawson was third. Watt and do Pre

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Speaker 1: reason that that's the words he used, because you can

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Speaker 1: time player. He was, Uh, he had a four point

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Speaker 1: So he was getting home when he was on the field.

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Speaker 1: But he was not a full time player. Um, he's

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of ways to get the job done.

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Speaker 1: And we're not selling jeans here, as they say, a moneyball.

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Speaker 1: But I've heard a really funny description of Hendrickson is

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Speaker 1: I mean's like a knuckleball pitcher. And he had six

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Speaker 1: Uh number two Joey Bosa. Yeah, and seventeen point six.

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Speaker 1: People don't realize how good he's been since he's been

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Speaker 1: the Garrets and wattson those He's right there with all

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Speaker 1: attention after bud Dupree was up for those last five games.

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Speaker 1: He was. I mean it was I can recall sitting

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of attention that he got. He really

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Speaker 1: And I bet there's no stat for this, but I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Aaron Donalds in the conversation, what had to lead

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Speaker 1: the league in holds that weren't called? There weren't, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he would get tackled behind the quarterback and he would

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Speaker 1: Holding is legal? Now? Yeah? Right? So I thought that

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Speaker 1: I think crowd noise is something to do it to.

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Speaker 1: his career. Jalen Hurts. You know where a lot of

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Speaker 1: these teams pick up an extra first round picko by

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Speaker 1: the way, in case it doesn't work out, and put

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Speaker 1: all kinds of weapons around their young quarterback, and it's

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Speaker 1: sink or swim time for Dania Jones. I'm not betting

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Speaker 1: on a swim. That's pretty early. Number three. The Carolina Panthers, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I knew they were really down on him. I'm not

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Speaker 1: exactly sure why the offense looks like it should be better.

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Speaker 1: I would think Caffrey comes back and Darnel Lisileo fly.

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Speaker 1: But is Darnel gonna turn the football over twenty times

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Speaker 1: and then gets exposed and say what you want about Bridgewater,

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Speaker 1: but he is kind of defense's best friend. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: made a bad situation. It's really conservative, and that doesn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah that that kind of covers up your helps your

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Speaker 1: defense out by you know, you much rather punt than

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Speaker 1: throw interceptions. There was so much talk about them going

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Speaker 1: all in on Watson or Wilson or you know, they

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Speaker 1: settled on Donald and you know some of those guys

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Speaker 1: that really didn't become available. But I I kind of

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Speaker 1: thought a lot of the time during that process, like, sure,

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Speaker 1: that's great, but they're almost acting like their defense is fixed.

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Speaker 1: You're not. You're not at that point yet. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: not at that point yet. I mean it for you know,

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Speaker 1: they have none of no first round picks in the the

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Speaker 1: next four years or whatever, and just think your defense

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Speaker 1: is good enough as is because you went seven all

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Speaker 1: seven pers Watson, that would have been trading one bad

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Speaker 1: situation for another. Yeah, right, I mean it's still you

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Speaker 1: have to do all the work. Yeah. Yeah, they could

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Speaker 1: have a bad year. That division isn't easy either. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not number two. The Houston Texans. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: they're not one. It's it is hard to believe. But

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Speaker 1: they do play in a division where maybe they maybe

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Speaker 1: they slew with Jacksonville. Maybe they sneak up on I

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Speaker 1: mean they you know, last year Jacksonville beat Indianapolis in

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Speaker 1: the opener. Um, Yeah, maybe I think the Colts and

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Speaker 1: Titans and Jags are vulnerable. Um, Houston doesn't play a

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Speaker 1: particularly difficult schedule. They just I think they have the

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Speaker 1: worst roster in the league. They just don't have anything.

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Speaker 1: And the new coach who's very unproven and right bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're trying to build some some chemistry. There's

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Speaker 1: some you know, some uh some leadership rebuild the whole roster,

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Speaker 1: but that isn't going well. They're rebuilding the roster with

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Speaker 1: a bunch of free agents that are that doesn't work

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's been proven time and again that

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Speaker 1: that's never really picks. This year, all right, I think

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Speaker 1: they're in a really bad I mean they they are

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Speaker 1: in this situation now because Bill O'Brien essentially continually gave

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Speaker 1: away all their draft picks that they kind of have

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Speaker 1: to just blow you want to talk about the team

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Speaker 1: needs to blow it up. That's what they're doing. They

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Speaker 1: don't have a choice. They have to blow it up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they need to get the early pick next year. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: that's a quarterback that's worth it. Rattler. However, they're the

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Speaker 1: sixties sixties Steelers right now. They gave away we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna trade away all these draft picks. And they sat

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Speaker 1: down the poker table and threw their cards away, right,

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Speaker 1: And what they need to happen, and with all respect

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Speaker 1: to the women that are, you know, in the Watson situation,

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Speaker 1: they need him to get clear heard. So they need

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Speaker 1: something into something, some some kind of closure on that

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Speaker 1: situation so he can be traded. So he can either

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Speaker 1: be traded or they can just simply move on, but

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Speaker 1: much rather, I mean, they need the other way they

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Speaker 1: can get good things on their team is lose a

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Speaker 1: lot of games, which is bound to happen, or trade

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Speaker 1: Watson for a lot of good stuff. We're both and

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Speaker 1: I want I don't see them even. I just don't

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Speaker 1: see any any way, shape or form that that thing

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Speaker 1: gets settled in a way that is going to help

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texas because there's just too much smoke there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously his market has been compromised, to say

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Speaker 1: the least. We're just a my football here obviously, and

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Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of teams that even if he

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Speaker 1: comes out the other end spelling like roses, aren't interested anymore.

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Speaker 1: You know, But he's going to be a quarterback for somebody.

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Speaker 1: I bet not this probably not this year, might not

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Speaker 1: even be next year. I mean, there there's you know,

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Speaker 1: we saw Antonio Brown get suspended for what ten games

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Speaker 1: last year, at half the season whatever it was for

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Speaker 1: one incident. Now it was it was one sexual harassment

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Speaker 1: incident on top of several other things. This is twenty

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Speaker 1: plus sexual harassment incidents. And for those don't realize, the

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Speaker 1: NFL cans spend you, whether you're guilty or not rightly.

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Speaker 1: Where they're smoked, there's fire. And you know, I've talked

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Speaker 1: to players about, uh, you know, off the record about

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Speaker 1: this stuff. You know, the fact that he was using

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Speaker 1: multiple masseuses is strange, like not just five, but five.

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Speaker 1: His body is as great as asset as a professional,

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Speaker 1: and you don't want random people touching it. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they'll mess me up. You know. Well, he's picking first here.

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Speaker 1: Enough of that. J E. T. S Jets, Jets, Jets

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Speaker 1: number one. I think they're pretty distant fourth in their division. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean still I would imagine Wilson's gonna have some

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Speaker 1: growing pains. I'll take their chances. I bet they pick

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Speaker 1: later in the Texans. Yeah, they're not good. They're not.

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Speaker 1: Neither one of those teams are good. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: who are the Jets beating in their division? I bet

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Speaker 1: their own six division? Yeah, I really do. Um, I

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Speaker 1: think they're I respect their last two off seasons, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean when you line up on Sunday and

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Speaker 1: Week eight the guy that you're better than the team

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Speaker 1: across from you. Ever, here's a little step for you, Matt.

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Speaker 1: Since two thousand quarterbacks taken in the top half of

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Speaker 1: the first round who played his rookies found their teams

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Speaker 1: averaging in offensive dB o A. She's like, that's a

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Speaker 1: real stat that's not let's manufacture things to make the

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Speaker 1: things sound well. And that applies to Lawrence here too,

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Speaker 1: and write you know, I'm not sure if Lance will

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Speaker 1: even play. But Fields is on that list too, I mean,

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Speaker 1: three guys. Mac Jones is in the top part of

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Speaker 1: the first half too. Yeah, I mean, they obviously weren't

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Speaker 1: in the top ten, but three teams were near Chicago

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Speaker 1: was surprising to me. Um. You can see that though,

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Speaker 1: they're going to bad situations and probably more importantly, they're

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Speaker 1: asked to play when they probably aren't quite ready. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, they gotta work out the cakes.

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Speaker 1: I mean Peyton Manning struggled as a rookie, Troy Aikman

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Speaker 1: struggled as a rookie when they were forced to play. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you could go on down the list of teams that

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Speaker 1: there are players who became good players, but when they

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Speaker 1: were forced to play as rookies, they were growing pains.

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Speaker 1: That's why. That's what made Roethlisberger's rookie season is so unique.

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Speaker 1: Um that you know, they came in and were fifteen

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Speaker 1: and one with a rookie quarterback. And people don't realize

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Speaker 1: this either, but like look at them. The recent success

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Speaker 1: is like they traded up for my homes. They were

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Speaker 1: a playoff team. They were like thirteen wins or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and then he didn't play it and they didn't play

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Speaker 1: this whole rookie year, even Alan and Watson. Those teams

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Speaker 1: were good and traded up to get them. They were

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Speaker 1: playoff teams ahead of schedule. They weren't you know, they

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Speaker 1: were a quarterback away, but they weren't a waste Land. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were good situations where the team had a pick

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Speaker 1: in the twenties. I mean, I think that's what the

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Speaker 1: Bears were feeling here, like, hey, we were a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: Quarter for these teams and put them in a good situation.

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Speaker 1: My biggest takeaway from that is Steeler fans to think

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Speaker 1: that or NFL fans. I think the Steelers are gonna,

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Speaker 1: you know, fall through the floor this year. There's not

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Speaker 1: much to back that up. No, there really isn't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be picking at the top ten. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. It was I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for this segment though. So for

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Speaker 1: my partner Matt Williamson for Jacob Breckt here on site

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Speaker 1: keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lally. We thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to this edition The Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio.