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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know from how Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, you'm welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry and

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Speaker 1: we're about to get our hands dirty the How Toilet

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Speaker 1: Paper Works episode dumb Dude. There were so many puns

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Speaker 1: in this article. I was like driving in pain. I

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Speaker 1: will say that this was a a draft of a

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Speaker 1: future House to Works article. Yeah, I gathered so it

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Speaker 1: hasn't been through the editing and a process, and I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping and praying the editor will have some good, the

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Speaker 1: good taste. To remove some of these euphemisms about poop. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it's not necessary. No, you don't have to get

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Speaker 1: hilarious about poop. It's hilarious on its own, sure, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like this one. By the way. Yeah, toilet paper

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Speaker 1: has a pretty interesting history actually, And there's the one

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Speaker 1: thing I didn't quite realize. It's pretty American actually toilet

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Speaker 1: paper is if you go elsewhere in the world, people

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Speaker 1: have different feelings about toilet paper than Americans do. You

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Speaker 1: come back and you realize, like, wow, America really really

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Speaker 1: loves its toilet paper. And you start to look at

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Speaker 1: statistics and it really kind of comes home, like, for example, yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's some editing that needs to happen. This guy's got

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Speaker 1: some numbers wrong. But what I found, Yeah, what I

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Speaker 1: found was that Americans spend something like six billion dollars

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Speaker 1: on toilet paper every year. Yeah, it is about rolls

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Speaker 1: per person, is that right? Yep? Per year? Um, and

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Speaker 1: we do we do something like we go through something

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Speaker 1: like thirty six and a half billion rolls of toilet

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Speaker 1: paper each year in America. Thirty six and a half

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Speaker 1: billion rolls of toilet paper every year. That is a

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Speaker 1: lot of toilet paper, um, and we're we were not

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Speaker 1: showing many signs of stopping. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: toilet paper is getting more expensive by the year. It's

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Speaker 1: it's rising by about two in cost every year, and

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Speaker 1: we we're saying give it to us. There's lots of

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Speaker 1: theories that if toilet paper somehow became a luxury item, Um,

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Speaker 1: Americans would just say, well, I have to buy this

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Speaker 1: think about it until you experience something other than toilet paper,

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Speaker 1: which is usually a stream of water up your pot. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about this before, but for those of

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Speaker 1: you who haven't heard our various statements on this, I

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Speaker 1: want to officially go on record again saying that toilet

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Speaker 1: paper is gross and disgusting and the idea of wiping

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Speaker 1: poop from your butt with dry paper is counterintuitive. It

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Speaker 1: makes no sense. And if you don't involve water in

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Speaker 1: You're you're a communist. I'm a badatist. Yeah, so do

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Speaker 1: you have one at home? Well, now I need to

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Speaker 1: it going again. So you have a bidday floating around

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Speaker 1: bringing us up to date because I was grossly misled

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Speaker 1: by this how stuff works article. Well, yeah, it sounds like,

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Speaker 1: I don't blame you. Probably read groom in the stool

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Speaker 1: bleach it. Yeah, which I think the only reason they

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00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: do that is because they found that people don't like

426
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: their toilet paper to be anything other than white unless

427
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: it's Yeah, man, I've got to say. I found this

428
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: um blog post from a site called History's Dumpster, and

429
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: they have pictures of Northern brand toilet paper and light green,

430
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: light blue and pink, and it was just like remember

431
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: swallow my tongue from nostalgia. It was very cute. Yeah. Well,

432
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: and I guess we should go ahead and say the

433
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: reason they don't do that anymore is because, um, those

434
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: inc dies they found good cause cancer in some cases. Uh,

435
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: they are expensive, more expensive to use dies. Uh. And yeah,

436
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: it was basically a health thing. People like you don't

437
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: need these plus and also the dies also kept m

438
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: the toilet paper from breaking down as quickly too. Yeah.

439
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: And they probably also looked and said, you know what,

440
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: my poop doesn't look any better on baby blue than

441
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: it does on white. No. But the the whole reason

442
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: that they had those is because everybody loved to um

443
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: color coordinate every room of their house in the seventies,

444
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: including the bathroom. Everything in the bathroom is bank so

445
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: people would people would buy mauve toilet paper to go

446
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: with their mauve bathroom or whatever. It is great, it was.

447
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: That's so super seventies too, And that's just yet another

448
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: reason that the seventies were hands down the greatest decade

449
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: in the history of Humanity's pretty great. So one other thing, Chuck,

450
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: there's a company called Renova and they actually sell colored

451
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: toilet paper again. Oh really Yeah, it's like seven seven

452
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: euros and fifteen cents, which isn't that much less than

453
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: it would be in dollars these days for six rolls. Okay,

454
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: so we're in the factory. Where do you leave this? Uh?

455
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: So we've made the pulp and we've bleached it. Now

456
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: it's white. Then you take the pulp and you mix

457
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: it with water and you've created a paper stock. That's right,

458
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: and then you press it onto a screen. This one

459
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: was this blew me away. Yeah, they pressed it onto

460
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: a screen. I guess you're you're draining a lot of

461
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: the water. Uh's one reason? And well I guess that's

462
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: the main reason, because what you're left with is that

463
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: dry white product. Yeah. That that lady, the Canadian lady

464
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: on how it's made, said that they hit them with

465
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: a dryer when they're on that screen and it instantly

466
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: drives it out. That's just amazing because you think of

467
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: this stuff is so delicate that but they if you

468
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: watch the process that they're they're pretty rough with it. Yeah.

469
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: So then well, concurrently, what's going on to we should

470
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: say is they're also making the the cardboard rolls, which

471
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: is kind of the tubes, you know, which is kind

472
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: of neat to watch that happen on its own. They

473
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: just make this one long, continuous tube that they cut

474
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: into like sixty in It probably depends on you know

475
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: which company, but the one they feature, I think we're

476
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: sixty inch tubes, which would then roll toilet paper around,

477
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: so you would have basically a sixty inch roll giant

478
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: roll of TP, right, which looks really neat, and then

479
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: they glue it. That is definitely glue that they used

480
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: to keep it, uh you know, not tucked, but affixed

481
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: a fixed thank you, so it doesn't unravel. Yeah, like

482
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: when you when you rip that toilet paper off at

483
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: the very beginning, that that's a glue that's holding it together, right,

484
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: And then they have these circular saws that come through

485
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: and just cut that that big long roll into several

486
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: small rolls. That was the coolest part, it was. And

487
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: then um, they can be individually wrapped or put in

488
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: packs of like four or six or a million UM

489
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: and then you sell them. It's it is a very

490
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: cool short video. I could watch that stuff forever. So

491
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: that's if you're making it UM from scratch. There's also

492
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: recycled toilet paper, which isn't quite as popular here in

493
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: the United States because it's a little coarser, the fibers

494
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: are a little longer with with toilet paper. The shorter

495
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: the fiber, the softer the toilet paper is going to

496
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: be UM. And then they also add some proprietary chemical

497
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: combinations UM that include like extruders that kind of pull

498
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: the fibers out of like a horizontal position and just

499
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: kind of tough them a little bit. Uh. And then

500
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: they'll put in like emboss and stuff like that too,

501
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: which kind of gives a quilted feel. So all of

502
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: that is to make it softer and to make it

503
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: um more grabby grabs the poop right out of your bottom. Yeah,

504
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: And those fibers is sort of a balance. They're a

505
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: delicate balance. They're walking because they want it to be soft,

506
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: but they also want it to be strong enough because

507
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: if it's too flimsy, like the junk. You get it. Uh,

508
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: you know public restrooms and your office probably you know

509
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: that everyone probably has a nightmare story about their fingers

510
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: busting through that stuff, which is worst case scenario, uh

511
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: when it's clean up time. So they're trying to basically

512
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: walk that balance of soft and strong, right, And one

513
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: way they've done that is to add more um layers applies.

514
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: So apparently it's up to six plies. I didn't know that.

515
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: I didn't either. I can't imagine you could. You couldn't

516
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: even fold that. Yeah, what does that feel like? I

517
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: wonder I'm probably a cloud. You're just wiping your bottom

518
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: with a cloud. And that In ninety two that started

519
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: as St Andrew. St Andrew's paper Mill in England invented

520
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: the two ply. Uh and I didn't know. This is

521
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: another nice little tidbit um Until the nineteen thirties they

522
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 1: would market toilet paper as splinter free like that. They

523
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: would they were forced to, right because apparently that was

524
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: a thing. So, um, that's kind of that's where I

525
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: was going with recycled toilet paper. It's kind of the

526
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: new splinter splintery toilet paper, which I mean compared to

527
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: the toilet papers of your recycled toilet papers just completely luxurious.

528
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: But compared to actually like six ply super soft stuff

529
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: that you can get, it is a little rough. Um.

530
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: And again the reason why is the fibers are a

531
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: little longer. And it follows the same process, but there's

532
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: a step at the beginning where you take all these

533
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: different papers and you put them in and mash them

534
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: together in some water and you inject some air and

535
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: it creates foam and the ink and the paper sticks

536
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: to the foam and the foam floats, so then they

537
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: just skim the foam off the top and you just

538
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: remove the ink and then you start the rest of

539
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: the process making a pulp. Again, what a world. It

540
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: is pretty amazing. All right, let's take another break and

541
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna come back and wrap it up with some

542
00:32:38,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: more amazing facts about t P. Another thing we forgot

543
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: to mention before we broke was the you said that

544
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: the embosed ones right like with the whatever, the scallop

545
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: shell or whatever you find um, they say that. Another

546
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: reason they do that is just so they know that

547
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: that's their toilet paper, just to differentiate themselves from other brands.

548
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I never really thought about that. Yeah, but

549
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: Scott's like, Noah, that's ours. You can see the scalop

550
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: shell right there. Yeah. Although I don't know what there's is,

551
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: there was definitely scalloping in that. Um how it's made video? Yeah?

552
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: Uh all right, So can we talk about the over

553
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: or under thing? Yes? So everybody's seen that Simpsons where

554
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: margin Homer go to the spa for a day and

555
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: Child Protective Services ends up coming by and they write

556
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: a report and they call the Simpsons house a squalid

557
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: hell hole point out that the toilet paper is hung

558
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: in an improper overhand fashion. Um. So apparently, I'm not

559
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: sure who wrote that episode weighed in on that, but

560
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: they're in the minority because apparently only do the underhang.

561
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm a definite overhanged person. What about you? I'm an

562
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: overhanger for sure. Um apparently. And I remember seeing this

563
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: online a few years ago. It kind of went around

564
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: that was a guy named Seth Wheeler of Albany Perforated

565
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: Wrapping Paper Company submitted a patent for the first perforated

566
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: toilet paper on a roll and that showed the the

567
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: over position and everyone was like, but it said it's subtle.

568
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: This was the first one that's how it was supposed

569
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: to be, which really proved nothing. No, I mean, it's

570
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: still preference. But there are definite pros and cons of

571
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: the whole thing, right, Yeah, But here's the thing for me,

572
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: it's a lot of the pro of the pros they

573
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: list as UM, like your little kid or your dog

574
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: won't be tempted to go yanket if it's UM in

575
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: the under position, right, presumably because it's hidden. No, because

576
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: it's so if you're a little kid or a doggie

577
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: and you come up, if you if it's in an

578
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: overhand fashion, if it's overhanging, you can just come up

579
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: and start slapping downward on the toilet paper roll and

580
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: it will just come right offhang. You know, it just stays.

581
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: It just flips around and stays together. Yes, it does.

582
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: You have to pull downward on the toilet paper if

583
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: it's going from an underhang to get it off the roll.

584
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: If you slap downward on the front top of the

585
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 1: toilet paper roll, that that it's never gonna come loose.

586
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: To see, trifical force holds it in place. I think

587
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: I disagree on this notion. I think that's presuming that

588
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: you're using the old school built into the wall toilet

589
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: paper dispenser, No, because I have the one where it

590
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: sits on a free standing stand, and if I put

591
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: my hand on the back of that thing and just

592
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: give it a spin, it will come unspoiled. I see,

593
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: I see what you mean. Yeah, if you approached it

594
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: that way, then then all of a sudden, now you've

595
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: changed your perspective down. I know, it's all crazy. Yeah,

596
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: I just I haven't seen that many of the Uh

597
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: they're kind of out of fashion now. The ones that

598
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: are built into the wall, are they? Yeah, you don't

599
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: see those as much anymore. No, I have I have

600
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: mind coming off of the wall. It's not built into it,

601
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: but it's it's you can only yeah, like you can't

602
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: get to it from behind. Yeah, the classic ceramic holder

603
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: built onto the wall, right, I don't have that. Although

604
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: my bathroom is mauv is it really? No? I wish

605
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: it's salmon that. I would love to have a color,

606
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: a color coordinated bathroom. I know you would. That would

607
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: be sweet. Um. Yeah, we just have those stands where

608
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: the toilet papers all stacked up a up a post, yeah,

609
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: and then then in the top it's got a little

610
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: l shaped thing and the dude hangs on there. Yeah,

611
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: we just have one that like drills into the wall. Yeah,

612
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: so it's not okay, but it's it's the same thing.

613
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: I can't get to the backside of it. Yeah, see

614
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: I can get to the back of mine, so okay.

615
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: But if you are using a kind that's a fixed

616
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: to the wall, then that if you if you have

617
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: it underhanged, you can't. You can't just slap it pretty easily, right, Well,

618
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: that seems like a it's kind of a minor thing

619
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: to really champion as a reason. Yeah, especially if you

620
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: don't have kids or mischievous dogs. Right. Yeah, my dog

621
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: has never done that, and the worst dogs right Okay,

622
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: now you don't, well one of them. So um, you've

623
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: got you've got that. And that's that's for the underhang,

624
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: for the overhang. One of the other things about the

625
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: underhang is that you can't see the unsightly end of

626
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: the toilet paper roll. Right, that's not insightly, No, I agree,

627
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: And in fact, there's a whole book out there, um

628
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: you my sister got it for it's pretty awesome. It's

629
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: called the Toilet Paper or Gami, and it teaches you

630
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: all sorts of different ways to like fold the end

631
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: of a toilet paper roll to make it. Yeah, and

632
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: you you can just wake up one day and there

633
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: it's all nice and fold and you're like, where am

634
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: I there? Rits, Oh no, I'm at my house still,

635
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: and just surprised Emily not even tell her, I think

636
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: for sure. And then when she goes what it turns

637
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: around you're just holding the book in front of you

638
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: with a huge smile and your face saying the new

639
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: chapter in our life. Yeah, and she says pooping. Why

640
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: are you in the bathroom all right? Get out? Yes, yes, Emily, Yes,

641
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: speaking of get Out. I just saw it last night, finally,

642
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: what do you think? It was great? And I got

643
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: Emily to watch it and she was reticent. She loved it. Yeah,

644
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: and that's really not her jam either. I just don't

645
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: see how you could not ultimately leave that movie feeling

646
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: like pretty great, pretty happy that you saw it. But

647
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: there are some pretty scary aspects to it too. Yeah,

648
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: it was like a good straight up horror movie. Yeah,

649
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: I called I called all the twists though, Oh yeah, yeah,

650
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: I just and she was like, oh wow, you kind

651
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: of nailed that one. Did you call the bad guy

652
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: from Billy Madison being the bad guy Billy was he

653
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: and Billy Madison? Yeah, Eric, I don't know if I

654
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: saw Billy Madison. That's another one of those like what

655
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: was I doing not seeing Tommy Boy and Billy Madison? Yeah,

656
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: I think that was in my like, oh, I'm watching

657
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: art films. Only got you? I got you? Uh anyway, sorry,

658
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: get out? Highly recommended. Yeah, I agreed finally by me.

659
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: So back to the overhand underhand thing, which, if you

660
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: can believe it, we're still talking about. There is one

661
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: thing in overhang, aside from the delightful toilet paper or gami,

662
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: you can do. I think I think definitely says um

663
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: s overhang. In an underhang, if you have a toilet

664
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: roll holder up against the wall, you are inevitably going

665
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: to brush your knuckles up against the wall of your

666
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: bathroom to grab the toilet paper. That's something you don't

667
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: want to do because if you leave the lid of

668
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: your toilet open when you flush an aerosol eyes cyclone

669
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: of p in poop goes all over your bathroom, including

670
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: your bathroom walls. So if you cannot touch your bathroom

671
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: walls when you're getting toilet paper, so much the better.

672
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: Well that's not a problem for me. But you know

673
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: that people around here behind your back call you big knuckles.

674
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: I know, big hairy knuckles. It's been your nickname for years.

675
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: I know, I know shut it's here. When I hear

676
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: I just pretend like I haven't heard. All right, So

677
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: let's talk about the future. Let's wind this up with

678
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: like you said, Americans, apparently, um like you can pride

679
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: this gun from my cold dead hand type of thing.

680
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: Except it's toilet paper. Well it's it's toilet paper to

681
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: right in one hand. Uh. A lot of other countries,

682
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: especially you're in Europe and Japan have roundly sided with

683
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: the bidet. Yeah, which I researched the bidet a little

684
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: bit because I'm like, how do you even use a bidet?

685
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: I've seen him before. And a true biday is you'll

686
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: have a toilet and then next to that you'll have

687
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: a toilet, but it doesn't have a lid, and there's

688
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: like some um faucet knobs and everything in there, and

689
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: you'll turn it on and like water comes up out

690
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: of the bottom. So a bidet is actually French for

691
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: small horse. And the reason they call it that is,

692
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: because you're supposed to straddle the bidet like you would

693
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: be riding a horse basically, right, and then you turn

694
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: on the water and adjust it just how you want

695
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: to the temperature you want, and then you adjust yourself

696
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: so that it's getting those spots that it needs to get.

697
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Turn it off, dry off, wash your hands, and you're

698
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: done right. And the bidet, actually that biday I just described,

699
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: the porcelain fixture that goes next to the toilet was

700
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: actually Americanized, Like the Americans came up with that version

701
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: of the bidet and still didn't catch on in America,

702
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: but Europe, where it had already been invented before. This

703
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: is like the improved version of it went nuts for

704
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: this Americanized version, and it just kind of got lost

705
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: to time that the Americans were the ones who gave

706
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: Europe the modern bidet, and we just never took it

707
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: on ourselves. Well, it's definitely if you have that style,

708
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: that's definitely an extra expense because you have to have

709
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: that fully plumbed and uh, you have to have the

710
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: space for it, you know, like it's not a cheap

711
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: thing if you want to get the full deal. No,

712
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: it's not, but like you have and like I have, Um,

713
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: you can just basically just us as an extra hose

714
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: that comes out of your already existing water supply and

715
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: goes into your toilet seat. And again the expense is

716
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: not utterly outrageous to get one of these. You get

717
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: a quality when it's probably gonna last a while, especially

718
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: if you get a Japanese one. Um. But one of

719
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: the reasons why around the world bi days are so prevalent,

720
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: Like in Japan, six restrooms have bi days. In Venezuela,

721
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: I didn't know this have bidets actually, Um. One of

722
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: the reasons why people are behind them so much is

723
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: because I know I heard that to you, Um, they

724
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: use way less water than toilet paper does. Oh like

725
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: the manufacturing of toilet paper. Yeah, so get this man,

726
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: this is a scientific American blog posts I found average

727
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: bidet use is going to take about an eighth of

728
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: a gallon of water to get yourself where you want

729
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 1: to be, right, which is clean. Yeah. To make a

730
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: roll of toilet paper one role, it takes thirty seven

731
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: gallons of water, one point three kilowatt hours of electric,

732
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: one and a half pounds of wood. So in America

733
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: we use thirty six point five billion rolls of toilet

734
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: paper every year. That re wires fifteen million trees, It

735
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: uses four hundred and seventy three billion, five hundred and

736
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: eighty seven million, five hundred thousand gallons of water, and

737
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: requires seventeen point three tarawatts of electricity. Now I don't

738
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: know how much taro wat is, but brother, that sounds

739
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: like a lot of electricity. Man, that's disheartening. I'm gonna

740
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: get my bidet going. It really is, and it makes

741
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: it really kind of makes you think like, oh, toilet

742
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: papers and an environmental catastrophe, so maybe a bidet is

743
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: is preferable. Well. And the other thing, if you use

744
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: the wet wipes, um, regardless of their flush ability on

745
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: the package, they they are not great for the environment.

746
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: Like it might not clog up your toilet right there,

747
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: but they don't break down like toilet paper does. Um.

748
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: Did you see that Consumer Reports short video on it? No? Oh,

749
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: it's like forty seconds long. And they're like, this is

750
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: what toilet paper looks like when you flush. And they

751
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: had just kind of like a little whirlpool going in

752
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: a beaker of glass of glass, beaker of water, and

753
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: they dropped in some toilet paper and then immediately broke

754
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: apart into five pieces. Right. They did that to wipe

755
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: a flushable wipe, no less, and it did nothing, and

756
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: they're like, well, let's try something harder. They put into

757
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: a kitchen aid mixer with water and let it sit

758
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: for ten minutes. It didn't break up at all. So

759
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: they don't really break up or no one really knows

760
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: how long it takes to degree, but they certainly don't

761
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: break up like they actually grew in size and swelled

762
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: up and turned into Nicolas cage. That's right. So the

763
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: fact that this stuff uh isn't good for your your

764
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: sewer system, and certainly if you have a septic system,

765
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: it's probably reason enough not to always use wipes. Um.

766
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Some people apparently, uh they say, if you know, if

767
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: you have an issue and you're maybe hemorrhoid or something,

768
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: then you might want to use a wipe for a

769
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: little while. Um, you know, follow your your heart, Like

770
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: there's chemicals a lot of that stuff. Yeah, there's this.

771
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: We found a self article about women using wipes or

772
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: um regular toilet paper because we're creeps and we read

773
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: articles like that, and um, the I think a a

774
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: guy incologist was saying, you know, I think it was

775
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: a dermatologist. He said that, Um, whenever a patient comes

776
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: in and says, I got irritation down there, I think

777
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: it's you know, probably from these wipes I'm using most

778
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: of the time. It is because they have like aloe

779
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: in them that someone might be allergic to. They might

780
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: have like antibacterial stuff that somebody could be allergic to.

781
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: And he just prescribed using basic, cheap toilet paper instead. Yeah,

782
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: and um, with with with kids and babies, you know,

783
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: when you're doing the work, uh, doing all that work,

784
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: you obviously are gonna use wipes. Um, but I will

785
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: buzz market this brand that we use water wipes and

786
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: it's just water. What it's just it's just water that's

787
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: the only ingredient. Oh. And I was like, it's not like,

788
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, we're anti fragrance in my house anyway, but

789
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't have fragrances or chemicals or anything like that.

790
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: And then it's just I'll buzz market them all day

791
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: because that's a good product, water wipes. Oh. One other

792
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: thing we'd be remiss and saying, um that if you

793
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: are a Muslim, you use something called a lota and

794
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: I would strongly encourage everybody go read a great Vice

795
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: article called a Muslims Guide to Anal Hygiene that explains lotas,

796
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: which is basically like carrying your own pot of water

797
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: to clean yourself off with. We're having one next to

798
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: your your toilet. Oh one more thing too. You sent

799
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: this to me. It is not your imagination. Toilet paper

800
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: is getting smaller. Uh. It's decreased by about a half

801
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: an inch narrower square. Yeah, four and a half inches

802
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: and now to half an inch narrower and shorter. They

803
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: were saying the same thing. Uh. And not only that,

804
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: but they're making See this is how they get you.

805
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: They make it a little bit smaller, they increase the

806
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: size of the tube, and so you're actually getting less paper,

807
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: but they're still charging the same or more per year.

808
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: And it's actually yeah, remember we said it's going up

809
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: by about two percent a year. So but you're getting

810
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: less paper. And so here's how they get you. They

811
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: are increasing the size of the cardboard tube. They're making

812
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: it narrower, so you're actually getting less toilet paper now

813
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: actual paper for either the same price or more money.

814
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: Because I think you said prices are going up about

815
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: two each year. So these companies that make toilet paper

816
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: selling usually paper towels as well, and napkins paper napkins, uh,

817
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: And apparently those are on the decline, so they're they're

818
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: kind of ripping you off by juicing you with the

819
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: toilet paper rolls now. Even though they call it like

820
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: a double roll, it's pretty much what used to be

821
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: a single roll. So that that's my toilet paper soapbox.

822
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: You want to start a bloody revolution in the streets,

823
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: let that word get out right. Yeah, I got nothing else.

824
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I got nothing else either, Man, toilet paper has been done.

825
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: If you want to know more about toilet paper, you

826
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: can type those words eventually into the search part how

827
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: stuff works dot com. You can also check it out

828
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: a mental flass. Just go onto the internet, go watch

829
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: some charm and commercials. Go look at pictures of um

830
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: of colored toilet paper from the seventies. You'll love it.

831
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: And since I said the seventies, it's time for listener mail.

832
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: What we call this proper pronouns? Hey guys, in your

833
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: last episode on standardized Patients, you read a listener mail.

834
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: At the end, you weren't sure what pronouns to use

835
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: for someone. Uh, they them is always a good way

836
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: to go when you don't know. Maybe it's because I'm

837
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: twenty two, or maybe it's because I grew up in

838
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: monest Story, but I've always known they them to be

839
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: plural or singular. Uh. I know that's not familiar for some.

840
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: Josh also suggested the word cis gender or a neutral gender,

841
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to give a friendly correction. The

842
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: word cis gender refers to someone who is not transgender

843
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: and identifies with the gender they were assigned at birth.

844
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: Cis being derived from the Latin prefix cis meaning on

845
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: the side of, as opposed to trans meaning across. From

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