1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: good us too. It is our number two of the 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: drive here on this Wednesday, as we continue to get 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: ready for the NFL Draft and everything else on the 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: horizon here in the upcoming NFL off season. 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: Matt. 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: Part of that a staple, something that we'll continue to 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: do all the way up until the end of April, 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: is our conversation, our list of prospects that we would 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: trade pick. 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Twenty one for right now. Yeah, okay, this is a 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: fun exercise. 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: We've gotten some tweets in the last few days like 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: when are you guys gonna do that again? 17 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: Free agencies over now again? Not over? But the majority 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: of the. 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: Bunch knows what you're going to look like going into 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: the draft. 21 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Yes, And could the Steelers still add a veteran offensive lineman? Sure, 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: could they still. But most of the tip the scales 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: type moves have happened. 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: That business is mostly done across the league. 25 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: And I think I don't remember my original list I 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 4: have it here? Was it pre combine? 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: Right after the combine? Was the last time we did it. 28 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: I bet it's different though for me because a couple 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 4: of reasons. I've had more time to work on prospects, 30 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 4: some of whom I like less than I did then. 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: I have a feeling, but Steelers needs have changed so 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: much that I might be more app just to say 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 4: I'll take the edge rusher even though we don't need it, 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: because he's the third best player in the draft, you 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like I might just take a 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: true best available because they don't have as nearly as 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: many needs as when we had this life. It's I'm closed. 38 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: I think that's a very good way to frame it. 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: Like I might turn down receivers more than I would 40 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: have then because you epitment now. 41 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: So when we did this exercise to weeks ago, we 44 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: had yeses for one, two, three, four, eight different guys. 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 4: Okay, we have two lists. We just had like the 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: drive list. Uh. 47 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: We both said yes about eight names, and I don't 48 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: want to run. 49 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 4: Through them because I don't influence my decision. 50 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: We both had eight yeses. 51 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: We had fennemonism maybe, and then I had a yes 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: for Jordan Tyson with the caveat of if I knew 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: his medical reports were clear. Okay, so that's where we 54 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: were at last time. So let's we could kind of 55 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: we could kind of compare again here and see if 56 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: we have more have less that type of. 57 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: Thing, best player available aside, you know, like r vel rees. 58 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: Youah sure, I'm leaning more and more and people that 59 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 4: have paid attention to me this time of year, I waffle, Yeah, 60 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 4: I do. I like to look at things from every 61 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 4: different angle. Two weeks from now, I might think the opposite, 62 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 4: but I really think the first two picks are gonna 63 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 4: be O line and wide receiver. 64 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: Can I just say this? 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: Yes? 66 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: And maybe this is just me saying this because it 67 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: takes one to no one. And I think I'm a 68 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: little bit of a waffler as well. 69 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: And I think it's a good way of doing it 70 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: because I don't want to not turn overturned and I 71 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 4: want to look at it. I'm gonna look under every 72 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: stone or whatever that's saying. 73 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: Overturn every stone. 74 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, leave no stone unturned, Rob King, I Matt 75 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: think that in this business, especially and more so year 76 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: by year. And holy crap, do I all of a 77 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: sudden sound like the old get off my I am 78 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: only thirty five. Wow, it happens fast in this business 79 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: in particular, and really now in the world in general. 80 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: It's like everything has to be black and white, and 81 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: I have to have such a hard line opinion on everything, 82 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: and everyone who disagrees with me as an idiot and wrong. 83 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: And I am just and I am correct and I 84 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: am true. 85 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: I think people who kind of go back and forth 86 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: and day by day new information presents itself, and because 87 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: of that, your opinions change and adapt and evolve. I 88 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: think that's the real way to do it. I think 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: that's the way intelligent people do it. In football, life, 90 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: in politics, it doesn't matter. I think every day, every week, 91 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: every month, your opinion should be changing and evolving as 92 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: information changes in evolve. 93 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 4: Even if it's one hundred and eighty degrees. You know, 94 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: like I've gone back and forth. Should they draft a 95 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 4: quarterback in the mid rounds or not? I think there's 96 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: strong arguments for both. So let's sit this thing out 97 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: and be the jury and listen to both sides. You know, 98 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: before you make that decision. I don't have to make 99 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: that decision, and I don't make decision period. I don't 100 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: pull the trigger. But I don't have to come up 101 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: with kind of a final answer for another month. And 102 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: whereas going with this is I'm liking the first round 103 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 4: wide outs a little less and less, to be honest 104 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 4: with you. And if I think their first two picks 105 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: are going to be O line and wide receiver in 106 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: some order Saint Patti's Day week, I lean towards go 107 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: O line first and then taking the receiver as opposed 108 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: to the other way around. 109 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: I think I'm with you on that, particularly if a 110 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: certain guard from Penn State happens to be. 111 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: Available to pick twenty one. 112 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: Okay, yes, that being said. 113 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: That being said, I think I like that about you, Matt. 114 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: So keep waffling, don't you. Don't be don't be stephen 115 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: A Smith, you know, mel Kiper screaming into the microphone 116 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: about how correct you are and everybody else is a mortal. 117 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 4: This is the only way you can do it. Yes, 118 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 4: this is the only way you can approach this draft. 119 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: If you don't do it this way, you're wrong. 120 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: That's been that's been the popular thing over the last 121 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: decade or so. 122 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: I think it's time to put that to bed. And 123 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: every walk of life. 124 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: And it's actually more close debates yes, it totally does. 125 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: But I think people are starting to get away from 126 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: the clickbaky baty stuff too, and they want real analysis 127 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: and thoughtful opinions. 128 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: So let's get into this reminder. 129 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: Last time we had eight yes is one maybe in Finnemon, 130 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: and then I had a yes for Jordan Tyson medical 131 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: you know, notwithstanding if I could be privy to that information, 132 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: here we go two point zero prospects that Matt and 133 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: I would trade the Steelers pick twenty one to four 134 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: right now today Saint Patrick's Day Week, March eighteenth. Fernando Mendoza, 135 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: I think is. 136 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: A yes, yes, yes for me for sure. That's a 137 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: pretty easy one. 138 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. 139 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: QB one. You need a court. Even if you were 140 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: to sit behind Rogers for a year, that'd be fine. 141 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: That'd be fine. 142 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. Rvel Reese is a yes for me. I think 143 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 4: he's got a chance to be special, so give me him. 144 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: It might be the best player in this draft. Yes, 145 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love, Yes, I'm saying yes too. It's an interesting 146 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: one just because it would throw off as we've discussed 147 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: kind of your board and your blueprint and your plans. 148 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: But he's on that short list of guys that could 149 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: be the best player in this draft. 150 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: And Rico Donald's a nice player, but he's not enough 151 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: for me to be like, I'm not taking that guy for. 152 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: Me to potentially pass on the next Saquon Barkley and great. 153 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: Plus he's such a good receiver in that part to me, Barkley, Yeah, 154 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: I mean just and I love Warren, but how long's running? 155 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: Best do one long careers? You know he may hit 156 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: a wall here this season, season or whatever. The outle's 157 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: not young either, so yes, that's an easy one for me. 158 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 4: What I find funny, and of course this is all fiction, 159 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: is if we would if there was a genie out 160 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: of the bottle and we said yes. I always think, 161 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: like the folks down on the south side, namely Omar, 162 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: are they sitting there going say yes. I really hope 163 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: you say yes this one, or or like, boy, I 164 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: bet he's gonna say yes this one. It's gonna screw 165 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: up my entire draft plan. Like I would have never 166 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: signed this guy if I knew I was hitting this 167 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: dude in the first round. Right, Buddy's a good player, 168 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: and we like, okay, guys, I saw what you did 169 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: there for us, But now I can't get the guard 170 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: I wanted because you know. 171 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: This would be a fun exercise if we could give 172 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: Omar Khan and Andy Widel truth seerum and all right, 173 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: would you trade pick twenty one for this guy right now? 174 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? This guy? 175 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: What about this guy? It would be a lot of fun. 176 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: Not as much fun when two radio hosts are doing 177 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: it as you know the GM, but I still think 178 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: you'll enjoy the conversation. 179 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: Sunny styles yes, same, yes. 180 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: So good to say no to? Yeah? 181 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: So so far are. 182 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: Four yeses? Right? 183 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: So far? 184 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: Four for four? 185 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: All four of those got so those four were part 186 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: of our eight that we said yes about. 187 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: Oh I assume to okay, they were all the best players. 188 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: Rubin Bain Junior No, same, No, I don't. 189 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: I that's not just because of the arms. It's a 190 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 4: position he plays too. 191 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: What about David Bailey. 192 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: No, I don't like him as much as other analysts 193 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: seem to. Okay, I see some holes in his game. 194 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: I mean he's good, but if he was one tier better, 195 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: I'd be like, yeah, he used to get the pass up. 196 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, he's an interesting one for me because 197 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: I agree with what you're saying there. I do think 198 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: he's a for sure top ten pick. 199 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously this is not gonna happen. 200 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: I don't think he's bonafide can't miss prospect. 201 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: I think a lot of years he's like the end 202 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 4: edge three. 203 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: Sure, you know, which is probably still better than you 204 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: could get it twenty one most years. 205 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: Of course, that guy doesn't make it the twenty one. 206 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: Hardly any year he would. 207 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: I know this is a little bit of a cop out. 208 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: He would kind of be a maybe for me at 209 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: this point. I totally understand He's the only edge rusher 210 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: I think I would consider, unless you count rfl rees. 211 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 3: He is a little bit of a unique cat. 212 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I would not consider any other edges. 213 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: Same same Francis Mauigoa. 214 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, he's my left guard today. 215 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: He's my left guard. 216 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: And go from there and maybe maybe. 217 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: He's Zach Martin. Maybe we bump him out the left eventually. Yes, 218 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: hold on, sorry, I'm just trying to keep up with 219 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: my with my list here. Caleb Downs, Yes, yes, another 220 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: one of might be the best player. 221 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. In this I mean, even after a brisker signing, 222 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: I can play three safeties on the field a lot. 223 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 4: Ramsey would definitely not play any safety at that point. 224 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: Now is when it starts to get a little bit interesting. 225 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: We have got six yeses so far, and I'm going 226 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: with a maybe for David Bailey. 227 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: I'm cheating. 228 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: Okay, that's fine. 229 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: You have one maybe mansword de Layne Corner out of 230 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: l s. 231 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: U very worth it. But we kind of just had 232 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 4: this conversation about uh Johnson that they have in for visit, 233 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: like this might be one where Omar's like, take the 234 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: best corn in the draft. Dude, you know they're hard. 235 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 4: You're never gonna get that guy. But I'm gonna say no. 236 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna say no to because he's a 237 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: he's a very good prospect. But yeah, it's that's similar 238 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: to the David Bailey conversation. For me, if he was 239 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: just a little bit of a tear better, I would 240 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: say yes. 241 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 4: If he was Patrick Peterson coming out, It's like, I 242 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: don't care if I have Woodson to mel Blonde's my corners, 243 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: I'm still gonna take it. Right, he's just great, you know. 244 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 3: If he's Sauce Gardener coming. 245 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 4: Out, yeah, Stingley, you know Carnell Taate, Yes, yes, he's 246 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 4: my receiver. One pretty by a pretty wide margin more 247 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: than it was before. 248 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: So yes, Dylan Thinnemon, No, not his fault. I think 249 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yes for Thinnemon. 250 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: Okay, I would rather just see again, go Fish. I'd 251 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: rather just see where the chips fell, because there's a 252 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 4: chance you know that you've you've hinted it. Like Vega, 253 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: I picked fin them in now and Vegas there twenty one. Well, 254 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: I don't get him. 255 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: Fair might not be there twenty one. 256 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: I'd rather just keep that door open. 257 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: Spencer Fanu, Yes, yes, I'm not sure. 258 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 4: If he was a no for me before, he. 259 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: Was a no for both of us before. 260 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: Because I think he's a guard that might also be 261 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: a tackle, and those guys interest me this year too, 262 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: because if he's gonna be a killer guard, I'm putting 263 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: on my left guard and I kind of keep my fingers. 264 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 4: I'm growing more and more fond of him for this. 265 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: I really like him because he might be your left 266 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: tackle two years from now. He might just be too 267 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: good at guard that you never even consider moving him, 268 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: you know, but I might like him more than Vega 269 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: even just because he might be a tackle two years 270 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 4: from now. 271 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: And you know what I like about him too, is 272 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: He's got a little bit of center experience too. 273 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 4: They've been flirting with it. 274 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: So say you got into a break glass in case 275 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: of emergency scenario on a game day, Yeah, on game day, right, 276 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: you could always in a pinch, throw him at center 277 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: if you needed to. 278 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: I'm honestly him to play somewhere for someone for a while. 279 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: I was. 280 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: I was a little up when I was earlier today, 281 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: when I was looking over this and going back through 282 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: the eight names that we said yes to two weeks ago, 283 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: I was a little disappointed in myself that I didn't 284 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: have Faun on the list then, but I definitely want 285 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: to now. 286 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: I would do Monroe freeling, dude. I've started to see. 287 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: Him mocked in the top ten a lot, I know, 288 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: like I've seen him to the Browns at six. That's 289 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: starting to become pretty popular, which, man, that would be 290 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: a heck of a meteoric rise. 291 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: For him now. And I think he could be first 292 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: offensive lineman off the board because he's the most left 293 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: tackle wish of all of them, which doesn't something yeah, 294 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: just in terms of skill set. And that's why I've 295 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 4: hesitation for the Steelers because I don't love putting his 296 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: big tall dude at left guard for this year? Agree, 297 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: And I don't think I want to ask Roderick or 298 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: Cook to be my left guard just I can put 299 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 4: feeling there. But Omar might be like. 300 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: The draft. 301 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: You always take him, and we might have a huge 302 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: need a year from now. Why would you not take him? 303 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 4: You know, and you could he can sit on the 304 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: bench all year or be your sixth offensive lineman. You 305 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 4: just take him. So that one's a maybe for if 306 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: I get one, maybe I'm gonna take one. 307 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: You got one, I love it, You're allowed one. 308 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna say no, just because if I'm 309 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: going that route of giving up twenty one for an 310 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: offensive lineman right now, mm hmm, I I want a 311 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: guy that has the versatility. 312 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: To to se he might not play right right now. 313 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: A year from now, you could be like, man, what 314 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: an absolute steal he's in. But I like these. 315 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: I like this, Mawi Goa, this faun new this, this 316 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: versatility me too. 317 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 4: I lean more towards that guy. 318 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: I like him as your maybe though, I think that's fair. 319 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 4: Okay, if I got one, maybe that's it. 320 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: Kenyon Sadi. No, we're not taking it. We're not taking 321 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: a tight end to pick twenty one. 322 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: Be tough to get him on the field, and I 323 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: gotta take people off field. 324 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: I like makay Lemon no same. 325 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: I think he's only a slot. 326 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: He's a tough one to pin down. Yeah, because you 327 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: turn on the tape and there's so much to like. 328 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: There is a lot of good stuff. 329 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: But he's five eleven, one hundred and ninety pounds and. 330 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: I don't care that he doesn't have great forty times, 331 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: but he doesn't know. He's small and slow to some degree. 332 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: He plays hard. 333 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: He might fit nicely with Pittman and DK, but I'm gonna. 334 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: Say he will say no, but i'msa say no. 335 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: Here's one that we're definitely saying yes to. And Matt 336 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: I learned how to pronounce his name. Finally it's Venga 337 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: Yoana Yes. 338 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: And I would take him. And I think he's a 339 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: pure guard and I was fine. 340 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: Certainly a side of the obvious like Mendoza and Reese 341 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: in love and styles he might be. 342 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: He'd be very high on my yes list. 343 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: And even if they signed Botonio this minute, I would 344 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: still be fine because if they signed someone's gonna be old. 345 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: And you know, here's the guy for me that I would. 346 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade pick twenty one from him, but man like, 347 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: in a perfect world, i'd love to trade pick fifty. 348 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: Three for him. 349 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: I know that that's not the exercise. Jermad McCoy. Yeah, No, 350 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: there's just too much, too much unknown, too much. 351 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna take the lane. I'm i gonna take 352 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: mcare Yeah. 353 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: C j Allen No, Jordan Tyson. No, I'm changing my 354 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: answer now. 355 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: After I told you two weeks ago he was kind 356 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: of like we both had finnamon as a maybe, and 357 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: then he was kind of my medical exception. I think 358 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: I would even remove that now because I just the 359 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: wide receiver position right now, I think Tate is the 360 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: only one I would trade. 361 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: Pick yeah one for. He also short arms and kind 362 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: of plays that way a little bit. 363 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: The more you watch them, I do really let his 364 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: I do love his tape. 365 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: Man, there's some good stuff on there, for sure. 366 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: But I just as of now, with what the Steelers 367 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: were done with the wide receiver room and some of 368 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: the other priorities, I'm saying no agreed a Key Mesador No. 369 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: No, Emmanuel McNeil, Warren no, no, Keldric Falk No. 370 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: No. 371 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: Avion Terrell, No, No, Omar Koper Junior, Blake Miller. 372 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: I think Cooper could be the pick of twenty one, 373 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna concede it right now. 374 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: None of these other guys, right, Cassius how Kateen Pryor, 375 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: won Ty Simpson, Max Max e Nhure. 376 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: Yes, because I think he's a guard today while he 377 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: learns and might be your left tackle or never leaves 378 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: guard or whatever. 379 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: Let me put your hypothetical. 380 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: I think he's like the most talented alignment in the draft. 381 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: Let me give you your hypothetical then that you gave 382 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: me for Dylan Fennemon. You trained that twenty one for 383 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: e Nhure knowing that that Venga could be there at 384 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: twenty one. 385 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: M hm. I might even take him ahead of him. 386 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: Really, if they're both there at pick twenty one right now, 387 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: you would you would really consider e Nhure. 388 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: I think he's that red kiously talented. It might have 389 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: the highest ceiling of any I think he does have 390 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 4: the highest ceiling of any alignment in this class, and 391 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 4: I think he'll be one of four positions. 392 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 3: I really love it, Matt, I love it. 393 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 394 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: Denzel Boston No, No, Caleb Banks, no, Peter Woods, no, 395 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: Colton Hood, no thanks. 396 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 4: We had a good conversation with then, and I still 397 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: got to lean towards no. I mean, he's a broken food. 398 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: I know again, I know this isn't the exercise a 399 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 3: manual pregn on. He's one. 400 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: I would try to pick fifty three for right now. Yeah, yeah, 401 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: get my guard at pick fifty three and leave twenty 402 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: one open. Caleb Lomo, no, Lee Hunter's I on Young 403 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: Brandon Sissy. So I guess Ty Simpson is probably the 404 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: last realistic one to discuss here, and. 405 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 4: He's a no for me. 406 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: For he's a no for me as well. 407 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 4: I'm just scanning the positions in my head. Is there anybody. 408 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: Hans, Chris Bell, Jacob Rodriguez, Jeremy Bernard, Keith Apney. 409 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 410 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: No. I think that's it. 411 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: I think that's it, partner. 412 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 4: So here's what we had this year more this time, 413 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: I think yes. 414 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: Mendoza, Reese, Love Styles, Mauigoa, Downs, Tate Fanu Venga. Those 415 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: are the nine that we both said yes to. So 416 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: that's one more than last time. Last time we both 417 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: had maybe's on Thinnemon and I had a medical exception 418 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: for Tyson. This time, I go Bailey David Bailey as 419 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: my maybe, and I go yes for Thinnemon. You go 420 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: freeling as your maybe in yes for I hure. So 421 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: we both had ten yeses, nine that we agree on, 422 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: and then one extra and then we both had a maybe. 423 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: I think we already know this answer. But did we 424 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: mention McDonald? He's a no for me. 425 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: I think I briefly when I was running through all 426 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: those names, set him, but I think he's he's another 427 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: one pick fifty three. 428 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: I might trade for him right now. 429 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but twenty one, No, there's not a defensive line 430 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: defensive lineman since then too. 431 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: If Caleb Banks had no health stuff, I would say 432 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: yes for him at twenty. 433 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 4: One when we talked about him, we didn't know we 434 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 4: had hell stuff, right, yeah, because we had just compete 435 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: in the combine and that was a tough conversation and 436 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: we've arrived at no. 437 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 3: Yes. But that's uh now, it's no. That was fun. 438 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: We have a couple more, which honestly, I thought it 439 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: would go the opposite way, but I can see why 440 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: it didn't because I think we we added more offensive linemen. 441 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: That was that's that's the real difference. 442 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: The line need didn't change if any you know, and. 443 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: All the other needs I think went down got better. Yeah, 444 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: totally all right, So I want to pick. 445 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: I think there's a chance one of our names is there. 446 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: I think Benga or o n Hure might be there. 447 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: I completely agree. I'd be surprised if both were gone. 448 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: I'd be surprised if both are gone. 449 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I think Fanu could slip a 450 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: little bit more than people think. Not not not into 451 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: the twenties. 452 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 4: Let me say one of those three is there, Yes. 453 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: And Fenmon maybe two of those four if you had 454 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: finnemen to the conversation, Yeah, that'd be an ideal place 455 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: to be. Matt, I want to piggyback off of this 456 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 2: exercise because this is something that we've referenced to times 457 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: but haven't discussed in this offseason. Let's put our chip 458 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: down on a prospect from this draft class to one 459 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: day go to Canton ooh and be in the NFL 460 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. 461 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: I've got a few names that I want. 462 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: I've got a couple top tier candidates and then a 463 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: dark horse or two that I want to run past you. Okay, 464 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: and let's do that when we return on the other 465 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: side here in our number two West Schuler Matt Williamson 466 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: more draft talk. Which one of these guys has the 467 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: best chance to go to Canton and wear a gold 468 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: jacket one day? 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Bud Light, easy to drink, easy to enjoy, 479 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 5: enjoy responsibly an Huser Busch bud Light Beer Saint Louis, Missouri. 480 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: Your tuns about drive on your twenty four to seven 481 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio. 482 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 3: Got the tweets rolling in. 483 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: We'll get to those here in about ten to fifteen minutes, 484 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: but before we do, Matt. It's a conversation we've teased 485 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: a couple times in the last month ish since the 486 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: NFL regular season concluded, and we've really started to focus 487 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: obviously on free agency and the draft. One prospect or 488 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: maybe more. I mean there's going to be more than 489 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: one name mentioned the conversation, but yeah, but the prospect 490 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: or prospects from this draft class that would most likely 491 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: go into Canton Gold jacket guys one day, fifteen twenty 492 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: years from now down the line. I've got three tiers 493 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: of this, Matt. I've got I've got two favorites, and 494 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: then I've got the next group of certainly I think 495 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: it's possible. 496 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: And then I have kind of a dark horse outsider 497 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: for you. 498 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: So you and I have not done this exercise before. 499 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 4: We have not, and I take a nerd out about it, 500 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 4: and I take it quite seriously, and I take it 501 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 4: to pretty far levels. 502 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 3: That's why I love your partner. 503 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 4: I'm wondering what percentages of draft classes actually have a 504 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. I would think most, but I don't 505 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: know that the answer to that. I'm sure there's been 506 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 4: some that have zero. 507 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 3: Sure, and I'm sure there's been some that have three 508 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: or four, and. 509 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. I mean, it's definitely Eli Ben, 510 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: you know, I mean like there's gonna be a couple. 511 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 4: Did you find that out? Already? 512 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: Almost every draft class since nineteen thirty six has produced 513 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: at least one Pro Football Hall of Famer, the big 514 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: exceptions being nineteen sixty four when there were ten, in 515 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three, when there were eight as of two 516 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: thousand and seven. 517 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: Hall of Famers in those classes. 518 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: Yes, holy cow, isn't that? Isn't that wild? 519 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 4: And the Steelers had four and one draft class? 520 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: Yes, correct, So it looks like it's pretty regularly. 521 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 4: At least one at least. 522 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: At least uh, at least you know, at least one. 523 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of these classes in the sixties 524 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: and eighties and times like that, you know, produced a 525 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: produced a bunch a lot of classes from the sixties 526 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: in this top this top list, and in the early eighties, 527 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: and that makes sense the draft was much longer, you know. 528 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're not gonna get a ton of them 529 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 4: just because you add rounds to it, correct, you know, 530 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 4: in the fifteenth round. 531 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: Correct. So I'm trying to look curious here. Most recently. 532 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so the two thousand and seven draft play because 533 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: again you know, you have to go back pretty far, 534 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 2: because these guys have to play they five. 535 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: Retirement career to get there. 536 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: So most recently was the two thousand and seven class, 537 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: which got revs. Joe Thomas and Calvin Johnson. 538 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: That's pretty good, yea. 539 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: The second pick, the third Calvin two Thomas three Revis fourteen. 540 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: Two thousand and six had none, two thousand and five 541 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: had DeMarcus Ware two thousand and four had none, two 542 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: thousand and three had Troy Polamalu. Two thousand and two 543 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: had Ed Reed. Two thousand and one had a trio 544 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: of guys as well, Ladanian Thominson, Richard Seymour, and Steve Hutchinson. 545 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: Two thousand had one. 546 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 4: Drew Brees in that class too. 547 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: He's about to go two thousand. 548 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: Brian Urlacker ninety nine had two guys, Champ Bailey and 549 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: Edrin James ninety eight. 550 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 4: Think Brady's in the Erlacker class. 551 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: And Brady is in the Erlacker class, yes, so some 552 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 2: of those will be added to Like big Ben. 553 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: Erlacker has been in the Hall of Fame for like 554 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: fifteen years and Brady isn't even in yet. In the 555 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 4: same class. 556 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: The two thousand and four class was Ben and Eli 557 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: and right, so that that they'll get they'll get more 558 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: than one, like I think. 559 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 4: But Ben's in the other two have to sweat it out. 560 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so two thousand and four will be represented here. 561 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 4: M hmm. 562 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: Ninety eight had four guys Peyton Manning, Charles Woodson, Randy 563 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: Moss and Alan Fanica good lord wow, ninety seven Orlando Pace, 564 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: Walter Jones, Tony Gonzalez, ninety six Jonathan Ogden and Marvin 565 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: Harris and Ray Lewis Orlando Pace. So I mean you 566 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: get pretty consistently there's at least one, sometimes multiple. Yeah, yeah, 567 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 2: who wars A lots a lot, But that's happened on 568 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: ninety five, Tony Biselli, Warren Sap, Tie Law, Derek Brooks. 569 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: Oh good, okay, good lord. 570 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: So as you'd expect, almost all these guys are first 571 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 4: round picks. 572 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: Almost all these guys are first round picks. 573 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: I mean there are some Donnie Shells and things like that. 574 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: Tom Brady, Yeah, yeah, it will be a six rounder. 575 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: But yeah, so basically almost every year there's one pretty 576 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: consistent way more often that you get a Hall of Famer. 577 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 4: Than not nine close yeah, yeah or malt. It's more 578 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 4: it's probably more common to have multiple to have zero. Yeah. Yeah, 579 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: So I bet the average is like. 580 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 3: Two or something like that. 581 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right, right, all right, do you have you're 582 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 4: gonna take it away? 583 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. So my two, my two favorites by like tier one. 584 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, if this was a roulette wheel in Vegas and 585 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: I had to put chips down, Caleb Downs and Jeremiah Love. 586 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: Okay, I think they are good ones, and they're definitely names. 587 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: I was going to. 588 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: Mention, I think they are with rvel Reese, the best 589 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: prospects in this class. But rvel Reese, there's some got 590 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: to figure out where exactly that guy fits. Ye. 591 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: I was gonna bring it up to where these. 592 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Two it's clearly defined what they are, what they're going 593 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: to be, where they slide in and should be ready 594 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 2: to roll day one. 595 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 4: So if you only get one, the things I'd say 596 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: against Downs. 597 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: Are it's tough at safety. 598 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 4: It's tough at safety. It's there's some talk that he 599 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 4: might have a knee or something that some are people 600 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 4: are slightly worried about. I don't think I'm like spreading rumors. 601 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: But if that's true, If that's true, I wouldn't take 602 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: him with the first twenty picks. 603 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: I'd let him. I let them slide to twenty one. 604 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 4: But maybe he just doesn't have a long enough career. 605 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm really nippicking because if you only get. 606 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 3: Plays at a high level, but for seven years. 607 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: Or love, I would say the same thing too, Like 608 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: running backs, tough running back just might not last, so 609 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: he might be really banged up after five really good years. 610 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: That was my knock against those two was they don't 611 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: play and I'm using air quotes here, Yeah, they don't 612 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: play premium positions. 613 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: They're quarterback or edge rusher or left tackle. 614 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: I think Greece is the best player in this draft, 615 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: but we're projecting a new position, so I think that 616 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 4: really works against him. In this conversation, gott to bring 617 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: up Mendoza. He's gonna first pick the draft. 618 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: So Mendoza was in my tier two because quarterback that's 619 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: probably the easiest position to make it as a Hall 620 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: of Famer. 621 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that. 622 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that. 623 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: At least it's like the highest profile. 624 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: I think, and maybe I'm just Matt. I'm a I'm 625 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: a child of the Golden Age of quarterbacks. I mean, 626 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: my earliest childhood memories are you know, there were the 627 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 2: Montanas and the Lways and the Farms and the you know, 628 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: Aikman's and then that transition right into Manning and Brady 629 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: and Roethlisberger and Breeze and Rogers and now this era 630 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 2: of these new guys. 631 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 4: Like the seventies, it was Bradshaw. 632 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 3: That's a little bit of like ten of them. 633 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: In my lifetime, the quarterback position has been a rocket 634 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: ship to the moon in terms of greatness. 635 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 4: I just don't have Mendoza can get there like that 636 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: have been the most favorable to me or like Matt 637 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 4: Ryan to me's like a yes, he's a borderline that 638 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: I lean towards. 639 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: No, like Caleb Downs and Jared Maya Love have to 640 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: be the best player of their generation or maybe number 641 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: two to get into the Hall of Fame at their 642 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: position position pretty much, and last Mendoza could be the 643 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: fourth best quarterback of his generation, maybe even lower, and 644 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: maybe even. 645 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: Lower and still get in. So that was my only 646 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: kind of with him. 647 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: Stafford's awesome, but he's maybe the sixth best quarterback of 648 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 4: his generation. When you start factoring's. 649 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: Going Rogers, He's going to Canton. 650 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's gonna go. I just don't have Mendoza's 651 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: ceilings high enough. 652 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: Who else So we've mentioned downs love Mendoza and Reese, 653 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: the I have Uh, I have ven Uh and Mauigoa 654 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: with the caveat of if he stays at guard and 655 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: is extremely elite there Zach Martin style. Yeah, I don't 656 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: think Mauigoa would be as a tackle, but I think 657 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: Mauigoa could be as a guard. 658 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 4: I don't think that's crazy, and I don't think Vega's crazy. Yeah, 659 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 4: just because maybe he's a plug and play twelve. 660 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: Year guard Zach Martin. Quentin Nelson goes to eight Pro Bowls. 661 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 4: In four All pros and is on a good team, 662 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: and you see him the Super Bowl and you're like, okay, 663 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 4: and everyone knows who he is. He could have that career. 664 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: This is fresh on my mind. But my buddy Max 665 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 4: has more ability in those guys. Yeah, so I think 666 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: his ceiling. I don't think Freeling can be Ogden Viselli. 667 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: He could be a really good left tackle, but I 668 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: don't think he can be an all time great, multiple 669 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: times all pro Yeah. Where my man Max I think 670 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: could be him. I just say he's dripping with ability. 671 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: I love it. 672 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: If he hits big, it could be Hall of Fame big. 673 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: You go back and watch some max E NH or 674 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: tape tonight. 675 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 4: Such a puppy. So that's anybody else. 676 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 3: So there was one more name that I had as 677 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: my dark horse throughout One more was my dark horse. 678 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't think of him. Actually, I'm thinking about Banks. 679 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: I think he's so talented as a tight end and 680 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: we've sele we've seen in this new era where if 681 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: you're the tight end that gets into the right system, right, 682 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: if he can have a I don't want to say 683 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: a Kelsey type Gronk type career because that's putting him 684 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: in the ultimate category. 685 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 4: But like Rock Bowers could be a Hall of Famer 686 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 4: Rock Bowers. I mean, if he does this for ten years, 687 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: McBride does this for ten years, they'll go past the 688 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 4: Wittons and Gates and you know, especially on the all 689 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: time list. 690 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 3: So he's my dark horse. 691 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 4: That might even be my pick, yeah, because I mean 692 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: in the tight end legacy world. 693 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: If you stand out super hard to move. 694 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: Up that list. Yeah, it's hard to get to, Like, 695 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 4: you're never gonna catch Emmett like on the rushing list, 696 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Right, you might. 697 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: Pass Gates and Gonzales, Right. 698 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 4: I think I said all my guys. I mentioned Banks, 699 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 4: but I mean that's real fiction. I mean that would 700 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: be really tough. I mean you may not even go 701 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 4: in the first round. I mean he just has rare trade. 702 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: The sunny styles deserve a shout out in this conversation. 703 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 4: Yes, he could have a ninety percent of Fred Warner's career. 704 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 4: He might be my pick. Yeah, yeah, I should have 705 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 4: brought him up earlier because I was thinking about him 706 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: at the break. He's gonna play right away. 707 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: It's a position right now that is not particularly strong 708 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: across the end. He's like a freak Quarner type. It 709 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: will really stand out. 710 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: He goes are a Pro Bowl in his first year 711 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: as like even an alternate Patrick Willis style, right, and 712 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden Warner retires and you're the 713 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 4: best linebacker in the league in two seven years. You know, 714 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 4: it might be my pick. 715 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: It's a good one. 716 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, the path's not that crazy to be the best 717 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: linebacker in the league. It's pretty hard to be us 718 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 4: quarterback in the league or notice me to mention any wide. 719 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: Outs, did not mention any wide outs, didn't mention any cornerbacks, 720 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: didn't mention any edge rushers. 721 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: RFL Reese. 722 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, again, he's a different type McCoy man. 723 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: If I know he's the twenty twenty four version of himself, right. 724 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: And say that that version is probably a top five 725 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: picks still twenty years old, they at least needs to 726 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: be thrown out there. 727 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I like this conversation it is. 728 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 4: It's a weird one. 729 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe post. 730 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: Draft we can revisit this when we see where these 731 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: guys land and how they're going to be used and 732 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: all that. 733 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: One more segment to go. That means we'll close things down. 734 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: With your tweets, you know where to get at us 735 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: if you want to get involved. 736 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: Weshuuler Matt Williamson. 737 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: It is the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers 738 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: Audio Network. 739 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 5: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here, 740 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 5: and while you might not know who your team is 741 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 5: drafting this year, you do know your watch parties. Number 742 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 5: one pick Bud Light, the clean crisp taste that has 743 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 5: all the scouts talking. Guess that's why it's been the 744 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 5: group's go to draft beer season after season. Be sure 745 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 5: to order around for the table before your teams on 746 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 5: the clock. Bud Light easy to drink, easy to enjoy, 747 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 5: enjoy responsibly, Ann Huser Busch bud Light Beer, Saint Louis, Missouri. 748 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven 749 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 750 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: Final segment of the day. You know what that means. 751 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: It's time to close this thing down with your questions, comments, concerns, 752 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: and reactions on the x Twitter t Mac gonna lead 753 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: us off today. He asks a few different questions here, 754 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: says Happy Saint Patrick's Day. Guys, where would you rank 755 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: the Steelers roster versus the rest of the division as 756 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: we stand today? Who does your producer and Tyler V 757 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: predict the Steelers'll take it twenty one? And when you 758 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: can you guys start doing the drafting for the Steelers 759 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: all through the top twenty one. Maybe we'll do that tomorrow. 760 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: We haven't done that exercise yet. 761 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 4: That happens, you have to wait a little bit. That 762 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 4: actually takes I actually have to do homework on that. Yeah, 763 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: that's a an hour or two project for me to 764 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 4: actually rank them one to twenty. 765 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 3: And it's probably like an hour of the show or 766 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 3: at least two segments. I would think. 767 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 4: Goes quicker than you think, But it's a lot harder 768 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 4: than you think. 769 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 2: Because there's primately again, there's some of those obvious names 770 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: that we mentioned in our Breviest exercises. 771 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 3: But then you get to that middle area where. 772 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 4: It's like, like, I don't put too much thought in would 773 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 4: I take Reese or Downs? You know, it's like I'm 774 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 4: never gonna make this one. But yeah, but still that's 775 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 4: more of a week before the draft thing. 776 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 3: Okay, so you only want to do that once. 777 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 4: No, we'll definitely do twice. Okay, at least, but it's 778 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: a little early. 779 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good. 780 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: I'll keep I'll keep prodding them on that one t 781 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: Mac and we'll see when he says yes. Steelers roster 782 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 2: versus the division as of to this is so if 783 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: you take the quarterback out of the equation, I think 784 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: it's the best. 785 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 4: That's about to say the same thing if not. So, 786 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 4: here's one issue I have with the Steelers roster, and 787 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 4: people will take this the wrong way. It's a little 788 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 4: lacking in elite players. TJ definitely was and might be 789 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 4: elite again. But if you're talking about I mean he. 790 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 3: Had won All Pro last year, Cam Hayward, he won. 791 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 4: All Pro and Cam Hayward is one of the best 792 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: defensive tackles in the league. But I don't throw the 793 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 4: word elite around very much. I mean Aaron Donald's elite, 794 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like like DK metcasts a 795 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 4: really nice player, he's not elite. Fraser might be someday, 796 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 4: not now. 797 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 3: Really player, right, I have a lot of really good players. 798 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 4: The division has Miles, Garrett, Burrow, Lamar Lamar Hamilton. I 799 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 4: would not have put Linderbaum there. But of the elite 800 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 4: players in the division, I think the Steelers are maybe 801 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 4: the lightest interesting. 802 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 3: I mean the Browns. 803 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 4: The Browns one, yeah, you know, but he's the best 804 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 4: defense player in the league. Sorry folks, but yeah he is. 805 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 3: I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying there. 806 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 4: That's just one knock. Like I mean, if we were 807 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 4: in Baltimore since you having this conversation and be like, well, yeah, 808 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: well there's where's are Jamar Chase. 809 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 3: I still think the Browns are clearly fourth in the division. 810 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and their offenses, and. 811 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: I think until proven otherwise, I'd probably still have the 812 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 2: Bengals at three just because the defense. I know they 813 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: added some pieces and all that, but I need to 814 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: I need to see it to believe it. 815 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 4: A lot of times, how we do a lot of 816 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 4: these exercises is like if you had to rank the 817 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 4: eight units offense, defense, offense defense eight times Brown zero 818 00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 4: is eight. Bengals defense is a close seventh. Steelers aren't Steeler. 819 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: Bengals offense would probably be one. 820 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 4: Bengals offense health at this moment, and everyone else's saw 821 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 4: probably somewhere in between. Yeah, you know. Yeah, So Ravens 822 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 4: and Steelers are like, well, we don't have any crappy ones. 823 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 4: You know. We might not have the well at least 824 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 4: have two in the top six. 825 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,479 Speaker 2: We might not have a guy hitting fifty home runs 826 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: in the four hole, but our one through nine batting 827 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: order doesn't have any holes either, right. 828 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 4: However, I think the Ravens roster overall has a lot 829 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 4: more holes than the Steelers. Agreed, They're sides of the 830 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 4: ball are both above average, but they have a lot 831 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 4: more hole. They have a lot more needs as it 832 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 4: stands today, than the Steelers, but they will. 833 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 3: But they have Lamark with the Bengals exactly the right. 834 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 4: Quarterback aside, I think it's one. 835 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: Same quarterback in the conversation than I think it becomes 836 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 2: the take Baltimore maybe slightly, but. 837 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: I don't like. 838 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 5: Holes. 839 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 4: Rewind to the power ranks. I think they're overrated right now? 840 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 3: All right? Last one from t MAC TV. Who the 841 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 3: Steeler's taking at twenty one? 842 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 2: Shout it out quick, don't think about it too much, Venga, 843 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: Nate Dogg Who the Steelers taking at twenty one? Shout 844 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: it out, Venga? All right, the boys are staying. The 845 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: boys are staying in Pennsylvania. Here, let's see Michael Edesso 846 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: P one of the show. That means you are a 847 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 2: loyal listener for industry jargon, Michael tweets, what do you 848 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: guys think about the idea of trading a fourth round 849 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 2: pick for Marvin Mims? Seems like a comparable player to 850 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: Randall Cobb, and he's an all pro kickoff punt returner. 851 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 4: I think he could be on the move. I think 852 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 4: Franklin or Mimes will get traded from Denver because I 853 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 4: think they looked at waddle like we've been messing with 854 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 4: these kind of gadgety explosive dudes. I'm done messing. I'm 855 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 4: gonna go get the best one out there that's a 856 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 4: lot more well rounded and than those guys. Will it 857 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 4: washed away. Mems would be your pump returner. It's kind 858 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 4: of like the key on Coleman conversation too, But Mims 859 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 4: has been better. I pedigree that you get it at 860 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 4: discount early in his career. I do it for fifth Okay, Yeah, 861 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna play a little hard to get here. 862 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll take the first off negotiations. Yeah, yeah, I don't. 863 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 3: I don't dislike that. 864 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's good with the ball in his hands. You 865 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 4: gotta manufacture some things for him. 866 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 2: But keep talking about the importance of those kickoff and 867 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: punt returns and that hidden yardage now in the in 868 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 2: the in the dynamic kickoff area. 869 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you pardon me, and I still 870 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 4: probably the second round pick on a wide out Yeah yeah, yeah, right, 871 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 4: and you're really done there. 872 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: Sudesh tweets us and says, hey, guys, thanks for always 873 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 2: responding to my tweets. It's much appreciated. Thanks for tweeting 874 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: in all the time, Sudesh, We appreciate you. 875 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 4: A couple of regulars today. 876 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, which wide receivers would you guys take in round one? 877 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: And are there other players positions that you would take 878 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 2: over wide receiver in round one? We kind of just 879 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: did that, kind of did just do that. But yes, 880 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean I wouldn't take Lemon or Boston. 881 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 3: Depending on the board fell in the trade it today. 882 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 4: Yes, like right now, they're gonna both be in my 883 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 4: top twenty one. Yes, I mean, just you get there. 884 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 4: You're never gonna take twenty or twenty one on your board, 885 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But they'll definitely both be 886 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 4: in my top twenty one. 887 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: I wouldn't take offensive linemen over wide receiver in round 888 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 2: one in a perfect scenario right now. 889 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 4: Yes, when we do top twenty one, there'll be a 890 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 4: lot of o linemen over those names we just. 891 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 2: Mentioned, And I would take Carnell Tate in the first 892 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 2: I think Tit is a worthy first round pick obviously. Yeah, 893 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 2: I think Lemon and Tyson are as well. I could 894 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 2: be convinced on Conceptcion CONCEPTCI Boston. 895 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 4: Boston as well. 896 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: I would say maybe Cooper three to six wide receivers. 897 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 2: I think you could. You could justify taking in the 898 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 2: first round. 899 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 5: Now. 900 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 4: I think that's also a reason the Bills made the 901 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 4: trade for more and the Bengal or the Broncos made 902 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 4: the trade for Waddle is because they think there's gonna 903 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 4: be five of them gone by the time they pick 904 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 4: at the end of the first round. 905 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: You know, Joe tweets and says, can either you or 906 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: met please explain why the whole fifty three man roster 907 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 2: can't be active on game day and how this all 908 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 2: came about. You would think in the name of player safety, 909 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: it makes sense to have as many healthy bodies available 910 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 2: as possible. Thanks and loved the show. Well, thanks Joe. 911 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: That's a great question. 912 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 4: It's bothered me for a long time because, like part 913 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 4: of me thinks it's really dumb that we're gonna pay 914 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 4: this young man to stand on the sideline in sweats, 915 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 4: the same as if we don't pay this young man. Now, 916 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 4: it's different if you're practice squad or not. But if 917 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 4: it's Joe blow that I just have to deactivate someone 918 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 4: who's getting paid. I think some of it and this 919 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 4: one I'm gonna defer to you comes back to hockey, Like, 920 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 4: I never quite understood healthy scratchy scratches. I think it's 921 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 4: just so if you've got injuries that you're not gonna 922 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 4: put on, that's want to make sure you don't have 923 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 4: your full roster because there's always gonna be injuries, right, 924 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna make sure that you know, both teams 925 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 4: kind of have it even on game. 926 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 2: Day especially, And I think it's different because, like if 927 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 2: you're a hockey team or a baseball team or an 928 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: NBA team, you go on the road for five straight 929 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 2: road games, and you take them with you, you take 930 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 2: guys with you, because what if in game three you 931 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 2: pick up two injuries. You know, yeah, you're in Utah, 932 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 2: a thousand miles away from home, and. 933 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 4: You're waiting to sid coming back tonight or tomorrow. You know, 934 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 4: like he's gonna go in the road triple right right yerea. 935 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 4: But I think I never quite understood healthy scratches, Like 936 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 4: if the Red Wings play the black Hawks, they don't 937 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 4: necessarily the same number of healthy scratches, right or do they? 938 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 3: It would? 939 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 2: It depends on how many guys on the roster active 940 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 2: roster are injured or healthy at the same time. 941 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 4: Okay, but there's no way that one team skating with 942 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 4: twenty and one is twenty one. 943 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, unless you're hit with such a rash 944 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 2: of injuries and dudes and you don't have enough dudes 945 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 2: in the timeline of calling guys up from the miners. 946 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, o kaind of No one got there in time. 947 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 4: So there might be a game, Yes, yes, but the 948 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 4: whole thing's a little flawed that I'm paying this guy 949 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 4: to stand there and sweat. Yes, I don't like that. 950 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: Maybe that's something we could revisit. Yeah, potential things that 951 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 2: we would change, rule changes and things like that. 952 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 4: There was a time like when Deuce Staley was still 953 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 4: a pretty darn good running back, but Jerome was in 954 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 4: his prime and they another one Induce didn't play special 955 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 4: teams and he'd be inactive. 956 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 3: It's like, like, that's crazy. 957 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 4: Mayby just put patters on this guy, give him five carries. 958 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 2: You know, here's a funny one speaking of outside of 959 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 2: the football and scratch his conversation, Angry Bike Lane tweets 960 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 2: and says, outside of the wheelhouse of the show, but 961 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 2: is it true that if you cut a hockey player's 962 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 2: head off they'll keep playing for six days until they 963 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 2: starved to death. 964 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 3: Oh, you guys are funny. 965 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 2: No, no, they'll just get like a three game suspension 966 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 2: from the Department of Player Safety and be right back 967 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 2: out there. 968 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 4: Ye. 969 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: Tyler tweets and says, with the three Omar drafts we 970 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 2: have in the book so far, have you guys noticed 971 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: any tendencies he has. I've noticed he's drafted a national 972 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 2: champion every year, and a lot of his late round 973 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 2: picks always. 974 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 3: Have high raz scores. Interesting pools there, Tyler. 975 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 4: The high rads scorers. He beat me to it. 976 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 3: Yep. 977 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 4: I think they're very, very conscious of that. I think 978 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 4: it's very clear that they stress early round linemen more 979 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 4: than they earn. Yeah, I would have to study it. 980 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 4: But I think more big schools. I mean, there used 981 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 4: to be a lot of mac Dude, right right right. 982 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 4: I think it's more big schools. And definitely this sounds 983 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 4: like I'm ripping on like Kevin Colbert, and I don't 984 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 4: mean to be at all, but like they would not 985 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 4: trade up for a linebacker. I don't think. I don't 986 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 4: think they'd take a strong safety in the first round. 987 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,479 Speaker 4: I don't think they'd take nausey in the first round. 988 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 4: He's a cap guy. I think he's gonna be more 989 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 4: conscious of scarce positions. Yeah, he's drafted tackles. Tackles are 990 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 4: the hardest thing to find, you know. Two of us 991 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 4: three drafts a tackle in the first round. Yeah, yeah, 992 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 4: they're they're the scarce ones. 993 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 2: It's you could see you could start to see his 994 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 2: type coming clearly into focus after a few years now 995 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 2: in the books. 996 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 4: The the lineman, all of long arms, I mean like 997 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 4: that much. It that's probably a Steelers thing more than 998 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 4: a Lamar thing. But yeah, that's gone on for years. Man. 999 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 2: We got a ton of tweets. Well, we'll get to 1000 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 2: some more tomorrow. Last one today goes to Matt and 1001 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 2: he says, can you guys play? Would you rather? 1002 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 3: Well, it is a it is a Wednesday, Matt. 1003 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: So yes, would you rather have the Steelers roster and 1004 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 2: the idea of a future quarterback as they are constructed 1005 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: right now? Or be any other team in the AFC 1006 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: North as it pertains to the future. 1007 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 3: I mean it's hard to. 1008 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 4: Just because I I don't know Lamar is going to 1009 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 4: have a long career. I might rather be the Bengals too, 1010 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 4: because even if you land as your favorite guy in 1011 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 4: next year's draft and trade three first round picks to 1012 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 4: get the fourth pick in the draft. 1013 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 3: He's got to be the dude and then he's got 1014 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 3: to take Yeah. 1015 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 4: I mean those guys are awesome. Yeah, that that's tough, 1016 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 4: it's real top. 1017 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 2: I would I would always go when it comes to 1018 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 2: the quarterback conversation though, I would always go with the 1019 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 2: bird in the hand. I would always go with the 1020 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 2: more known commodity. 1021 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 4: Yes, that carries a ton of weight. 1022 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 2: That carries a ton a ton of weight. And Lamar 1023 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 2: and Burrow are not perfect. They have their concerns too, sure, 1024 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 2: but they are they are a bird in the hand. 1025 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 4: Certainly that third and fourth pick in the quarterback draft yesterday. 1026 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 2: You know, yes, yes, great stuff on the tweets today, 1027 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 2: We got a bunch. Maybe tomorrow we have to do 1028 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: two Twitter segments to get through the you know, like 1029 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 2: the NFL did the centennial class of the Hall of 1030 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 2: Fame to get some of the log of candidates. No, 1031 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 2: we love it though, big thanks everyone. We've enjoyed every day. 1032 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 2: I'm skeptical, like will we get enough tweets? Will we 1033 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 2: get enough tweets? And we always get more than we 1034 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 2: have time for, so thank you for that. We do 1035 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 1036 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 4: Oh, A couple of people like the whiskey lesson yesterday too. 1037 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 4: They sent me directly. 1038 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: They like they like the. 1039 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 2: Violin, and they like to exactly like the whiskey lesson. 1040 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 2: No rest for Matt Williamson in this world, maybe in 1041 00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 2: the next. 1042 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 3: That's Peaky Blinders. Peaky Blinders guy. 1043 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 4: Yes, but it's been a while and I should have 1044 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 4: watched it with subtitles. I definitely miss some stuff. 1045 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 3: Good stuff today. We'll be back to do it again tomorrow. 1046 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 2: Thanks to Nate Doug on the ones and twos, mister TV, 1047 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 2: Tyler V on the video side of things, for the 1048 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 2: bourbon Expert, Matt Williamson, I'm a Shueler. Take care, everybody. 1049 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: We will talk to you tomorrow. As always, you know 1050 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 2: where to find us. It's on your twenty four to 1051 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 2: seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio 1052 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.