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Speaker 1: This is Draft Season. My name is John Schmulk is

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Speaker 1: always joined by the Boys, Eric Crocker and Tony Pauline.

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Speaker 1: The Draft Season is presented by Tommy Hull, figure a

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Speaker 1: PVH brand and an official partner, the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: Sorry for the late episode this week, recovering from four

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Speaker 1: Wisdom Teeth getting pulled. Come. Let these guys do most

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Speaker 1: of the talking today as we recap a lot of

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Speaker 1: the pro days that have happened, and we talked about

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Speaker 1: the impact of free agency on the NFL Draft, what

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Speaker 1: teams might be doing. We're not gonna talk about Wednesday's

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Speaker 1: Pro day is like Ohio State, but everything before then

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Speaker 1: we are going to touch on. Boys. Let's get right

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Speaker 1: to it. Let's start with the two most recent ones

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Speaker 1: at two quarterbacks, Malik Wilson Kenny Pickett. Your guys takes

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Speaker 1: on those guys. Well, I thought both of them had

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Speaker 1: real good Pro days. But the fact is this, you know,

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Speaker 1: after Malik Willis's Pro Day, I'm reading on the internet

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Speaker 1: that people are now saying that Malik Wilson Kenny Pickt

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Speaker 1: are gonna be top ten and picks. You don't really

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Speaker 1: elevate your draft stock all that much off of a

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Speaker 1: or Candy Pickett or Sam Howell that have gone through

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Speaker 1: combine uh Desmond Grid or another one. I mean what

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Speaker 1: happens is teams will go there and they will watch

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Speaker 1: Wealth of them deserve a lot of credit. They both

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Speaker 1: threw the ball very well, But I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: really gonna help elevate those guys draft stock. It's not

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Speaker 1: like a team who wasn't looking at Malik Willis early

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Speaker 1: after their PROTA workout. And I think sometimes with these

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Speaker 1: if anything did help Millik Willis kind of elevate it

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Speaker 1: the way he handled the pressure of that, and there

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Speaker 1: I've I've been involved in those private workouts. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: in that as well. So to see how Millik Willis

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Speaker 1: Gonta handled that and carried himself and you see some

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Speaker 1: think that's something where where you see something on film

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Speaker 1: And Tony, like you said, I've heard a ton of Oh,

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Speaker 1: agree a thousand percent with everything Eric said. But therein

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Speaker 1: Malik wills it can be any player. They go to

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Speaker 1: think what really helped Malik Willis's draft up more than

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a terrible thing that happened. You hate

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Speaker 1: quick by the chrome, real quick, rubbing fast, Tony. I

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Speaker 1: And you gotta remember it, teams like Georgia, teams like Alabama,

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. But John, you bring up a

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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm told that Booth the corner from Clemson

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Speaker 1: He's not working hard, like he's not working out hard,

430
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Speaker 1: he's not preparing and for a guy like this that

431
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Speaker 1: he's not the biggest or heaviest guy, I mean six

432
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Speaker 1: four two fifty five, that's pretty you know, scam for

433
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Speaker 1: a tight incoming out, but the test as terrible as

434
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Speaker 1: he did, that tells me he didn't put any effort

435
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 1: towards off off season training. And to me, if you're

436
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Speaker 1: if you're willing to kind of waste agents money, could

437
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: your agents they frunt this stuff and this money out

438
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: of their pockets. They're depending on you. Hey, we're gonna

439
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: give you all the resources so you can have the

440
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Speaker 1: most successful uh combine and pro day possible and in turn, okay,

441
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: we'll earn our money back. Well, you just said f

442
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Speaker 1: you to them and their money when you go out

443
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Speaker 1: there and put a performance like that, twenty five and

444
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Speaker 1: a half introvert like my five year old doctor could

445
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Speaker 1: probably do that right now. You know, she jumps on

446
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 1: box shops and things. So like, to me, it's it's

447
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: more disrespectful, like not only to yourself but to the

448
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: people that have tried to invest in you as well.

449
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: Six four to fifty five and you're a pass catching

450
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: tight end. It's not even that you're a good blocker.

451
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 1: So I mean, listen, here's a guy who okay I

452
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 1: had him graded higher the most the most people, but

453
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Speaker 1: a lot of people thought he was gonna be a

454
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Speaker 1: Day two pick. It's probably dropped out of the draft altogether. Now,

455
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: how about a spiller. How do you think he helped

456
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Speaker 1: himself kind of you know where he's gonna shape into

457
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: this running back hierarchy, Croc, Why don't we start with you.

458
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: You know, this is the guy who I really like.

459
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean running in the fourth four six three. Obviously

460
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Speaker 1: it's not as well as some of the other guys

461
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Speaker 1: that ran at the combine. You know you had, um,

462
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: you know really all the other running backs uh, Breeese

463
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: Hall and and all these guys are and they're running

464
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: in the four threes and low four fours. So it

465
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: doesn't help himself. But I don't think as a running

466
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Speaker 1: back like you have to be. He passed this guy,

467
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: so okay, he ran low four six. I know there

468
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Speaker 1: are some people that had the time in the high

469
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Speaker 1: four fives. I can live with it. I think he

470
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Speaker 1: has legit three down back ability. I think he's a

471
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Speaker 1: terrific pass catcher out of the backfield. Um, he runs well.

472
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Speaker 1: I think he shows enough power and shiftiness. Uh, you know,

473
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Speaker 1: he might not be guys number one running back coming

474
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Speaker 1: out because of the lack of athleticism on paper. I

475
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Speaker 1: think when you watch the film, he's still a good

476
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Speaker 1: running back. I'm not gonna knock him too much. Yeah,

477
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Speaker 1: if he's not the first running back taking, he'll be

478
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Speaker 1: the second running back taking after Breese Hall. There's no

479
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: about it. He's a creative back. I mean when you

480
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Speaker 1: watch the film and gets in trouble and he tries

481
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: to run too much latter really too much east west,

482
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: running round and take it up the field. He has

483
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Speaker 1: the ability to create yards, terrific pass catcher out of

484
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Speaker 1: the backfield. So if he's not an early second round pick,

485
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: there'll be a mid to late second round pick. But

486
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: he's still which made benefit him because they'll end up

487
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Speaker 1: with a better team. But he's still a quality back.

488
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Speaker 1: All right. Let's hid over, guys. A lot of moves

489
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Speaker 1: in free agency and stuff happening around the NFL, and

490
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: that impacts, of course, needs and what teams might be

491
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Speaker 1: thinking in the NFL draft. Will kind of go in

492
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Speaker 1: the draft order here and pick out about a hat,

493
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, a little more than a half dozen teams.

494
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Speaker 1: Let's start at the top. You know, the Jaguars franchise,

495
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, you know, I always thought that we're gonna

496
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Speaker 1: go to offensive tackle. Now, I'm not so sure they

497
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Speaker 1: have Jamar Teller over there. Uh, they have great little

498
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Speaker 1: on the roster as well. So are they looking pass

499
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Speaker 1: rush right now? Do you still think they're gonna be

500
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Speaker 1: in in a conversation for an offensive tackle. From everything

501
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: that's coming out, they're leaning towards pass rusher and it

502
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Speaker 1: sounds like it's a hut and C. Now you know,

503
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Speaker 1: you see how that works with what they have right now,

504
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I do believe their team that runs more

505
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Speaker 1: of a three four style of defense. You have. You've

506
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Speaker 1: had chasey On who chased on who they got from

507
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Speaker 1: L s U a couple of years back. He has

508
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: two sacks in two years and he's been on the field.

509
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Speaker 1: He's playing in games, but the production isn't there. So

510
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Speaker 1: I did think that right like, it was a no brainer.

511
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Speaker 1: You gotta address the officer line here and protect your

512
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Speaker 1: asset at quarterback. But I think right now, everything that

513
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Speaker 1: all the clues leaned towards Hutchinson being the number one

514
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Speaker 1: overall pick. I mean I never bought into the fact

515
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Speaker 1: that they were taking an offensive tackle off there, and

516
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Speaker 1: I said it here because there were no no shot

517
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Speaker 1: fire can't miss left tackles at the top of this

518
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Speaker 1: year's draft. They all have big question marks, and then

519
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Speaker 1: they go and they franchise Camp Robinson, which I believe

520
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: just further what I had said along. And the fact is,

521
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Speaker 1: you can't miss when you're at the top of the

522
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Speaker 1: draft that Aidan Hutchinson may not be the player as

523
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Speaker 1: we've pla come about a couple of times that has

524
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Speaker 1: the greatest amount of upside, but he's got the least

525
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Speaker 1: amount of downside risk. I like when Eric Crocerd brought

526
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Speaker 1: up but Kelvin Chason. You know, Jacksonville has spent a

527
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Speaker 1: lot of draft capital on that defensive front seven, on

528
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Speaker 1: the defensive line of pass version. Whether it be Chason,

529
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Speaker 1: would be Josh Allen, Tavon Brian a couple of years ago,

530
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Speaker 1: who basically was was also a bust. I think in

531
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Speaker 1: the perfect world, JACKSONO would rather trade down a few

532
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Speaker 1: spots and maybe take a cornerback like a mad Garden

533
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Speaker 1: or somebody like that and get some extra selections. But

534
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Speaker 1: if they stay at number one, I can't. I never

535
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Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be offensive tackle, because the offensive

536
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Speaker 1: tackle on my board is three or four down down

537
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Speaker 1: the board with the two pass rushers at the top. Yeah,

538
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Speaker 1: I will happily take the l on that. That means

539
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: one of those top two tackles drops of the Giants

540
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Speaker 1: and number five. But to be very happy about that, Uh,

541
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Speaker 1: let's go to big number three with the Houston Texans. Guys, Um,

542
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: they do renegotiate Lammy Tunsl's contract now they can still

543
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: training with they want. Obviously, what do you think they're

544
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Speaker 1: looking for now? But to me, they're they're a roster

545
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: that's bear and they finally trade the Shawn Watson there

546
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: in the middle of a rebuild. So is it really

547
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: just best guy? Do you look for a building block

548
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: at a premium position? What do you think? Um, their

549
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: process will be here. Well even that, and they've got

550
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Speaker 1: multiple draft picks coming back from the show on Watson,

551
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: so they do have an additional pick in the first round.

552
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: So I think Cesario what he's gonna try and do

553
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: is he's gonna try and maneuver around, whether it means

554
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: maneuvering up, which I don't think will happen, maneuvering down,

555
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: getting extra selections and all along. He's going to uh

556
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Speaker 1: to pick the best player available within a reason that

557
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: that fits the mold. You know, they need offensive lineman,

558
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: they need help with safety position, they need pass rushers. Uh,

559
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Speaker 1: you know, I guess this would be the first kind

560
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: of spot to look and see this Cavon Thibodeaux end

561
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: up there, because that's the kind of pass rusher that

562
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: Cesario has liked, or Cesario has had success with when

563
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Speaker 1: he was with the New England Patriots, those smaller, speedy, quick,

564
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Speaker 1: explosive edge rush guys. You know, this is probably one

565
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Speaker 1: of the first serious consideration the landing spots for Cavans live. Though.

566
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Speaker 1: If he doesn't go here, we'll see, you know, how

567
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: far he slides down. I know for me when I

568
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: look at the Houston Texas and this is a little

569
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: bit out of left field, but I kind of like

570
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner at this spot. And I know, you know,

571
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: they run this cover to system. You look at what

572
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: they've had at the quarterback position. They're trying to piece

573
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: things together by having guys like Desmond King out there

574
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: last year. They have Mitchell as nice as ideal, they

575
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: run a little bit more covered to a two high

576
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Speaker 1: I think if you want a guy who has all

577
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Speaker 1: the physical capabilities of being terrific in this and with

578
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Speaker 1: the eyes that he has. Man it's Sauce Gardner six three,

579
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds ran low four force, which was tremendous

580
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: for him. For for one, I think that puts him

581
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: more in the kind of like elite type prospect category.

582
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: You look at what he did in college, the production

583
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: he had, didn't give up a touchdown. It saw some

584
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: crazy stats saying he didn't even give up more than

585
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: thirteen yards to any more receivers past here. Now he

586
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: ain't playing in the SEC, so it's not like he's

587
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: getting challenge week in and week out, but just some

588
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: of the ability. Even in the Alabama game when I

589
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: watched him, and I talked a lot about this thing

590
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: called pressure key visual key, especially in his zone where

591
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: the pressure keys the guy can get my hands on

592
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: while I'm reading my visual key, and he did a

593
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: good job of being able to get his hands on

594
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: one squeeze at until it's something flash that threatened his zone,

595
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: come off of that and make really good tackles. So

596
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: I think he'd beat menducing his Levey uh Smith defense.

597
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: He's a playmaker. He also has the audibility to be

598
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: able to play man the man, I think he moved

599
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: the needle right away for them. But if it's not him,

600
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: I do here and everyone I talked to with Houston,

601
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: they're saying Kyle Hamilton's Now. I know that's not gonna

602
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: make Tony happy, but that's what they're kind of saying.

603
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: They need to say. They're just like lost justin Reid,

604
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: and they could be looking to add someone that has

605
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: really high upside there. You know. They don't else say

606
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: is what kind of safeties did Zero have in New England?

607
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean he had the smaller, quicker guys. They didn't

608
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 1: have these uh big and correct me if I'm wrong,

609
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: but they didn't have you know, big body shafety. So again,

610
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: look where he came from the type of player that

611
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: he got a lot of success with in New England.

612
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, McCarty and those type of guys, uh

613
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Chung, you know, like guys that can be very versatile,

614
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: And they asked those guys that do a ton watching

615
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: and watching New England their defense on film was some

616
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: of the funniest time I've I'm not like I would

617
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: watch film because I just like the process, but watching

618
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: some of the different things they do in man, they

619
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: ran like this man match defense. I've never seen them before.

620
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: I was like, what the heck is this. I had

621
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: to get guys like mccorrey on the phone, some of

622
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: my buddies that knew him, and he explained to me

623
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: what they were doing. It was some really good stuff.

624
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: But you need safeties that are very versatile and if

625
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: you're you know, Kali Hamilton, we talked about being a

626
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: little bit longer, longer movement skills. I don't think he

627
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: has the same type of ability as a m according mccorty. Mccorty,

628
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: who can do more things and coverage. Yeah, it was

629
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Speaker 1: only converted corner to play safety rather than getting the

630
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: bigger guy. Question. All right, let's group these next three

631
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Speaker 1: teams together. Panthers at six, Falcons at eight, Seahawks at nine.

632
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: Are all three potentially in the quarterback business? Now? Is

633
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: that too much of a reach? Uh? With the Falcons Mariota,

634
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: the Seahawky Drew Lock, the Panthers Sam Donald, Yeah, do

635
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: you reach just for need? How do you think those

636
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: three teams are are are going to consider their options

637
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: here at those particular spots. I think with the Panthers

638
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: you gotta say no. You have a coach who's really

639
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: he's on a hot seat, and there's and there's two

640
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: times where I'm like, you don't take a quarterback top

641
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: ten one in your first year as a head coach,

642
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: because that guy can likely get you fired, putting all

643
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: your eggs in the basket of an unproven rookie or

644
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: unknown rookie. And then a guy on a hot seat.

645
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: So you look at where Matt Rule is right now,

646
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: and I know it's not ideal to have to play

647
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: with Sam Donald, but I have to go with a

648
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. He can't hit his wagon to a Molique

649
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: Willis or a Kenney Pikett because he won't see the

650
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: next year for it to play out for Baker. Yeah,

651
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: I would go with that over Sam Donald or a

652
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: rookie at this time, right now, in that scenario. So

653
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: I'd say Panthers, these three teams, they definitely got to

654
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: be out. I mean, the Panthers are always seemed to

655
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: be Turner looking for a quarterback. But Eric's right on

656
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: the money. I mean, if you are Matt Rule, the

657
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is draft a quarterback

658
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: with that sixth bacon and then you've got to rely

659
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: on him to win because you're gonna be out at

660
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: the end of the season. Now, what I'm hearing in

661
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Carolina is they're not meshing the front office. They're not

662
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: in cohesion. You know, rules been there for a while.

663
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: But this is Fitter or the general managers. This is

664
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 1: his second year, so you know, he's the guy that

665
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: may want to go take the quarterback at six. We'll

666
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: see what happens moving forward. I don't think they take

667
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback at six, but I know there's a lot

668
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: of disagreement there if you will, uh in that front office.

669
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: As far as the Falcons are concerned, I mean you

670
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: have to say that they've got to consider it. Will

671
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: you look at their moves as I mentioned earlier, training

672
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan bringing Marcus Marietta the Seattle Seahawks. Uh. One

673
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: last thing, I don't know that there's a lot of

674
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: interest between for Carolina with Baker Mayfield. I don't have

675
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: to hold that Baker Mayfield doesn't want to go there.

676
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: That may change. Did you get closer to the draft,

677
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: but then he might not have a choice. But he

678
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: may not. But again, you know, and just just for

679
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: the purposes what I reported yesterday, the team that gets

680
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is going to be the team that is

681
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: willing to take on the largest amount of his contract

682
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: because Cleveland is backed into a corner right now. You know,

683
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: they traded for the Shawn Watson, they gave it that

684
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: huge contract. They were also on the line for almost

685
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: nineteen million dollars for Baker Mayfield because they picked up

686
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: that fifth year option. So if you want Baker Mayfield,

687
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: you can say, okay, we'll give you a fifth round

688
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: pick or fourth round pick, but we're only taking We're

689
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: only gonna pay ten million dollars of that nineteen million

690
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: dollar contract. If you don't want to pick up the

691
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: online million dollars, we're not interest. So that's something to

692
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: watch as far as the Baker Mayfield traders concerned. As

693
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: far as Seattle, you never know what Seattle is gonna do.

694
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean, every time you think they're going right, they

695
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: go left. Every time. You know, they Jordan Brooks in

696
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: the first round, guys that you wouldn't think for first

697
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: round picks on paper they need a quarterback, but their history,

698
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: as you know with Russell Wilsons, get the quarterback later

699
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: they could trade down and then maybe take one of

700
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks later on, if they're able to trade down

701
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: rather than selecting a signal caller at nine. Yeah, I

702
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: can't imagine Pete Carroll at his age is gonna want

703
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: to invest in some you know, green twenty one year

704
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: old that needs two years to develop. Doesn't seem like

705
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: that's something he would want to do, especially since it

706
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: was there was thought that Pete cale was out after

707
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: last year and he saved this job. So absolutely, I'm

708
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: with you, and I agree. I think the Falcons are

709
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: are are a good spot there, and uh, I think

710
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: moviek Will has given the success Michael Vick had down

711
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: there are a shorter, mobile quarterback with a ton of

712
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: armed talent. I could see that being somewhere that they

713
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: might want to look. Maybe they trade down too. I

714
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: think the a f C West is interesting. That's kind

715
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: of an arms race right now. The Chargers pick at seventeen,

716
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: Do they have to pick an offensive tackle? You know,

717
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: Storm Norman right tackle was a huge liability for them

718
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: last year? Is that? Like? All right, Ryman Penning? Whoever

719
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: is left is that who they have to pick? Pretty much?

720
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: I won't pretend like I watched every game from the Chargers,

721
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: but if what I saw in Week eighteen was in

722
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: the indication of what was going on at the right

723
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: tackle position for a majority of the season, then you

724
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: have to address it. I mean, Herbert could barely drop

725
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: back and get to the top of his job before

726
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: he was getting pressured by Crosby. Now Crosby is a

727
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: terrific addresser, but you gotta be able to protect him

728
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: more than that. I like what they did. You know,

729
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: you got Gerald Everett, you brought back Mike Williams. Obviously,

730
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen still there. So I think from a pass

731
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: catcher present standpoint, you're good on a deep decide the

732
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: ball and bron and Kalil Mack. They got J. C. Jackson.

733
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: So if it looks like they're adding guys every level,

734
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: the one position that they did not make any additions

735
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: to in free agency so far, when you move it

736
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: was the offensive line or the tackle position. So I

737
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: think at seventeen, you know, and this is a deep

738
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: tackle class, you gotta hope that somebody falls to you

739
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: that you feel it is worthy of being able to

740
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: replace who you have right now at that tackle position,

741
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: to step in and be able to protect your franchise.

742
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Quarter just a year after drafting Slatter, who had a

743
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: tremendous year. You know, I I know they also want

744
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: to improve the interior defensive line. I know that, like

745
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. But Jordan Davis is not gonna be there.

746
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Trevor Penning is gonna be there unless

747
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: they make a move up. So I think if if

748
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: they really want an offensive tackle or they want a

749
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: defensive tackle like uh, like Jordan Davis, they are going

750
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: to have to move up or you're gonna have to

751
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: wait to day two uh to get one of the

752
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: tackles that falls down. So also a couple of real

753
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: good offensive tackles left in free agency which could be

754
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: had for a bargain, which would be an improvement over

755
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: what they have the right tackle position right now. All right,

756
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: let's go to two teams that recently lost their veteran

757
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to retire and Drew Brees and Ben Roethlisberger's Saints

758
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: and Steelers. Are they going to be in the quarterback market?

759
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: You know, the Saints all lost their offensive tackle Toronto

760
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Armsteads Dolphins. How do you think, Eric, those two teams

761
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: might address their picks here in the mid first round. Yeah,

762
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: I mean started with the Saints. You know, obviously they

763
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: brought back Jami's Winston and when you gotta dive in,

764
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: I know on that you just look at the statue

765
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: four team touchdowns, three interceptions. He had a high number

766
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: of touchdowns in two of those games that they play. Now,

767
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna knock him for throwing a bunch of touchdowns,

768
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: but if you actually like look at as a whole,

769
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: how he played in most of those games, it wasn't

770
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: great and they bring them back. I do think that

771
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: he's someone that they're likely trying to improve over, but

772
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: he can be someone that is a hold over four

773
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: a year or two. Well, maybe you draft a guy.

774
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the the Seattle Seahawks and

775
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll being older and not wanting to wait to

776
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: develop a quarterback. I think where the Saints are new

777
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: head coach, I think Alan is gonna be there for

778
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: a while. I think you have the time to be

779
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: able to draft a Kenney Pickett or Molie Willis where

780
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: and I think this is more so where they should

781
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: be a can at least those two guys, uh and

782
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: not have to play him right away because you have

783
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: Jami's Winston who you know, he could play serviceable football,

784
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: and then if he is kind of doing some weird

785
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: things and turn the ball over a lot, if he

786
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: gets back to that, then eventually you can replace him

787
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: with a guy, but it won't be as much pressure

788
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: on the quarterback or the coach. So I like the

789
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: Saints potentially, uh, definitely adding a quarterback first round. Yeah,

790
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: I thought along they could take Malik Willis. I just

791
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: don't know that he's gonna be there now. Now I

792
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: agree with Eric, this is probably where he should go,

793
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: but he's gonna be overdrafted. I think the Saints basically

794
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: dug their own hole because that the ample opportunity to

795
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: address the quarterback position. In the past, they were taking

796
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: the Rees kid from Michigan interior offensive lineman. Uh, you know,

797
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: good player, but uh could have been the pick would

798
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: have been better spent elsewhere. I do think it will

799
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: be an offensive player. I mean, will it take Kenny

800
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: picking at eighteen to my in my opinion, that's that's

801
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: a significant stretch. And I think the Steelers, you know,

802
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: signing Rabitsky by the way, I think that's a great placeholder.

803
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: If they can move up to go get Malik Willis.

804
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a great fit for him too, if

805
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: they really want to make that investment in a quarterback

806
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: and let him sit behind Mitch for a couple of years. Uh.

807
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: You know, the Steelers have that organizational um capacity I

808
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: think to do something like that when a lot of

809
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: other teams I don't think would have the patience to

810
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: leave Willis on the bench as long as he has

811
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: to be in order from to learn the NFL game.

812
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: And that was their game plan, as I reported from

813
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: the combine, their game plan was to get a free

814
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: agent quarterback, and I had said that Mitt Drabinsky was

815
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: the appo of the ride and then draft Malik Willis.

816
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: The question is, as you said, they can't sit there

817
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: and wait from Willis to uh fold them. You're gonna

818
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: have to be aggressive. So if it's not Willis in

819
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: round one, is it a Desmond rittering round two? I

820
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: do think that that is the plan to come out

821
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: of this year's draft in the first round, maybe the

822
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: second round, with the younger quarterback to sit and develop

823
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: and let Mitch Drabinsky, Uh, you know run the team

824
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: for at least a year. All right, let's jump to

825
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: the end of the first round. Now, two teams lost

826
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: their star wide receivers, the Chiefs trading Tyree Hill, the

827
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: Packers trading Davante Adams. Uh, they select the Packers of

828
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: eight Chiefs. Now at twenty nine and thirty, is this

829
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: gonna be like an end of the first round now

830
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: where team is gonna be jockeying for position to get

831
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: the wide receiver they want? Croc? Yeah, I think if

832
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: you're the Packers, maybe if you pick out twenty two,

833
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: you'll have at least yours shot at getting the guy

834
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: that you want. Remind me a couple of years ago. Uh,

835
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: in around that same pick, maybe pick twenty two Philadelphia Eagles,

836
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: one of o'clock, and it is all right, all these

837
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: guys that we can look into. Do we want raagor

838
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: do we want Jefferson? We want Brandon and Iuke and

839
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, uh Tee Higgins they had their picked first

840
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: and they went with reagor they kind of chose wrong.

841
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: Whin the Packers they'll have their pick of kind of

842
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: that late round, first round guy and there I think

843
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: there will be a plethora of receivers there. Just gotta

844
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: make sure you pick the right guy. I don't think

845
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: they double up. I know that a part of the

846
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: questions the double up all receivers. I wouldn't say that.

847
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: I think you get one guy and that could be

848
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: your fifth year option guy, and then maybe second round

849
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: or third round you come back and get another guy

850
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: and maybe has a different skill set. But definitely they

851
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: should take one in the first round. Now you know

852
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: anything about the Packers, sometimes they do things that we

853
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: don't think they should do, especially when it comes to

854
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Speaker 1: drafting receivers. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if

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Speaker 1: they're like, we're gonna address some other positions, like a

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Speaker 1: linebacker that they did, or drafting at a j deal

857
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Speaker 1: In in the second round, things I thought was kind

858
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Speaker 1: of weird at the time, and uh, clearly or Jordan

859
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Speaker 1: Love in the first round, all these things that pisses

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers off. I'm glad you used that term because

861
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say they look like they it's almost

862
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Speaker 1: like they purposely got the cheese off their uh their

863
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: fans there if you get the punt. But uh, do

864
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Speaker 1: you know, listen, I think one of the happies guys

865
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Speaker 1: right now, especially that Tyree Gilt trade is Marquez Valda Scandling,

866
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Speaker 1: the free agent receiver from the Green Bay Packers, is

867
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Speaker 1: not watching his value increase. I think that, Yeah, I

868
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: think Packer fans will be happy. I don't think they're

869
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: gonna double up on past catches because you can get

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Speaker 1: a good receiver around to get a good receiver around three.

871
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: But I think absolutely with that first pick, a guy

872
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: like trail On Berkship, if he's there, I think that

873
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: fits the mold of what the Packers like to do,

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00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: uh and the type of a receiver that the Packers

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00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: have developed in the past. John Dotson would be an

876
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: interesting pickle that's still a little bit earlier for for

877
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: his services as far as my boarders can start, even

878
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: though I like John dots in a lot, you know,

879
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: and then the Chiefs, you one there worth all this

880
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: extra draft capital that they got, all these extra picks

881
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: in the Hill trade. Would they be willing to move

882
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: up if there's a receiver they really like to replace

883
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill? You know, you need explosive receivers in that offense.

884
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: Do you think that might be something they would consider?

885
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: And look, if you only want to replace Tyreek Hill, right,

886
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: just draft Jamison Williams. It's gonna take him a few

887
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: months again on the field, but in terms of being explosiveness,

888
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: that's the guy. Right. If you want to fill Tyreek

889
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: hill roll, Jamison Williams is your guy. Well, I don't

890
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: think anyone is Tyreek Gild like and that that's the

891
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: deep thing. And if you're chasing Tyreek gild and that

892
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: type of guy, more more than likely you're gonna miss.

893
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: But I do think you know, a guy like Jamison

894
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: Winn and brings that explosibility to the offense. You know,

895
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: they got a couple of guys there. I mean Juju

896
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: Smith will see how much of an impact does he

897
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: have consistent obvious think Travis Kelsey, he's gonna be the

898
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: target hog. And then Miko Hartman what is going on

899
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: with him, is going to take that next step. They'll

900
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: be waiting a few years for it. But if they

901
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: are going to go to receiver position in the draft,

902
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: I like Jamison winning, But you can't say, all right,

903
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: James won, You're now gonna be our Tyree Giels. I

904
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: think that get too much pressure on the guy. We're

905
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: going to a Kansas City Chiefs. We'll make it too

906
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: where you know, what we do, got past catchers in place,

907
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: we can get by until James Williams is ready to

908
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: get on the field. I remember Tyree kill is what

909
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: the fifth round pick, I believe a late day three pick.

910
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: And I think the other I think they could go received.

911
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: I think they could also go pastorsh. I think just

912
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: be a pertinent spot for David Jabo. I mean, they

913
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: redid Frank Fox deal. But and what everyone thought they

914
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: were gonna get rid of them, you still got melvan

915
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: Ingram out there. They're going to need a pass rusher.

916
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna need a young pass rusher. And the fact

917
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: is this, you know it's gonna be tough to replace

918
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, although Patrick Mahomes seems to, you know, spin

919
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: gold out of out of hey. If you will, uh,

920
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: if you draft a guy like David A. Jabu, you

921
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: get him ready just as I said earlier, for your

922
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: stretch run in December through the playoffs, with a young

923
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: pass rusher who can relieve some of those veteran guys,

924
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: I could they go receive it or place Tyreek Hill. Well,

925
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: they can get a receiver. I don't always gonna replace

926
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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, but I thought I also think that this

927
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: is a good spot for a jab are enlightening around Dallas.

928
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: They lose a wide receiver Cooper, offensive tackle Leo Collins,

929
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: and a pass rusher on Randy Gregory. They pick four.

930
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: Where do you think they're going? They gotta get back

931
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: to the roots, man and address that offensive line. Right

932
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys were good a few years back in

933
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: the very dominant team upfront and leaning on that game,

934
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: and they had the offensive line working in Coison is

935
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: as one union and they're pretty dominant doing that. And

936
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Speaker 1: that was with a young Dak Prescott. Give him some

937
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: officers linement. Now, give him something help there and protect

938
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: him so he can be as comfortable need they got

939
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: past catchers. They will have to address the receiver position

940
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: at some point. But if I'm them at twenty four,

941
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm leaning more towards officer the line. You know, it

942
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: depends on who's there first of all. I guess they're

943
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: gonna roll the dice on Terrence Steele. But I think

944
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: a guy like Tyler Smith of Tulsa would be an

945
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: intriguing an interesting UH player. There has to be in

946
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: the conversation. A lot of people think that Tyler Smith,

947
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: who had a terrific today, who's a very bright, intelligent guy.

948
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: Is one of those Jonathan Ogden types. And I'll stay

949
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: with me for a second. I'm I'm saying he's Jonathan Ogen.

950
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: But you start him at guard as he develops his game.

951
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Remember he's only a third year sophomore. He's a young guy.

952
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: As he develops his game, and then he kicks him

953
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: out to tackle. So if Terrence Steele, if you draft

954
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith and you start with guard and Terrence Steele

955
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: turns out not to be your your guy for the

956
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: future at right tackle, there's always a chance that you

957
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: can move that Tyler Smith out to right tackle. U

958
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: From everyone I've talked to, Tyler Smith has established himself

959
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: as the fifth best tackle in this draft, after Vanil,

960
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: after Quanto, after Charles Cross, after Trevoring Trvor Penning. Then

961
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: it's Tyler Smith, and teams may reach for him earlier

962
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: because of the fact that he's established himself as such.

963
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: I guess he's Ian Johnson as a possibility there too,

964
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: if you want to take someone a little bit safer

965
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: as well. Alright, guys, good stuff next week while our

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