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Speaker 1: today amidst the current climate in this world. We have

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Speaker 1: we have Mr Lewis Carr, President of Media Sales, generating

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Speaker 1: over eight billion dollars in revenue over thirty one years

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Speaker 1: at b ET, also a philanthropist and author. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us today was the car. We also

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Speaker 1: have Kenneth Montgomery, former New York prosecutor turned criminal defense

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Speaker 1: and civil rights attorney A Kenny and again on Dead

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Speaker 1: as podcast. Tiffany Elite, also known as the Budge at Lisa,

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Speaker 1: an award winning teacher of financial education, motivational speaker, and author.

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Speaker 1: What's that Si? Hey, how y'all doing? We're doing all right?

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Speaker 1: So look we're gonna jump right in because Mr Carr

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Speaker 1: has a heart out. But um, realistically, it's been a

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Speaker 1: lot for the black community over the last uh ten

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Speaker 1: days especially, but you can say four centuries centuries, but um,

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Speaker 1: I think it's time for us to kind of take

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Speaker 1: this momentum and move forward. So, Mr car my question

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Speaker 1: to you is, um, you've been responsible for pulling in

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Speaker 1: major capital for a huge business. What are some of

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Speaker 1: the action items we as a community can begin to

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Speaker 1: do to build a strong financial infrastructure for our community. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: I think debout number one is to understand the value,

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Speaker 1: the power, and the influence that they have. You know,

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Speaker 1: we know that the black consumer market is worth about

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Speaker 1: one point for trillion dollars on an annual basis and

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Speaker 1: spent across multiple categories everything from groceries to automobile osh

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Speaker 1: to solve goods, but not that's one portion of it,

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Speaker 1: the overall value, but their influence also, as we say it,

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Speaker 1: be to what black people do today of the world

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Speaker 1: does tomorrow. And I think this is a classic example

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Speaker 1: if you're seeing their influence on the front lines of

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Speaker 1: this other pandemic called racism. This is one of the

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Speaker 1: first times, probably since the civil rights era, that you've

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Speaker 1: seen black, white, brown, yellow people marching together. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's started months ago when those who are in

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Speaker 1: the culture said, you can't love my culture and hate

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Speaker 1: my people. So I think understanding their value, understanding and

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Speaker 1: making demands on where they spend their money, whether it's

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Speaker 1: brands or whether it's just individual categories. I think we

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Speaker 1: really need to really focus that we have power. We

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Speaker 1: are not really backing up on our hears and not

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Speaker 1: just beaten and downtrodden sort of consumer market. We have

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Speaker 1: real power and influence and it's just how we use

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Speaker 1: it and executed in the marketplace. And Kenny, I just

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Speaker 1: want to ask you quickly just to to piggyback off

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Speaker 1: of that. You know, you deal a lot with criminal

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Speaker 1: defense and also civil rights. Um, how can we utilize

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Speaker 1: that power to build some political capital? A lot of

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Speaker 1: people ask me all the time, like, how can we

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Speaker 1: use the money we have to get behind the right politicians?

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Speaker 1: And I really don't have an actionable item for them.

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Speaker 1: You know, how how can we see it done? And

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Speaker 1: I think I think that requires Unfortunately we've been in

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Speaker 1: the last twenty to thirty years, we've we've been in

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Speaker 1: this sort of u uh hazy position where we're as

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Speaker 1: Mr Carr just stated, we have been able to make money.

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Speaker 1: I think Black people have made money from the time

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Speaker 1: we got off the ships here. That's never been the issue.

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Speaker 1: The issue is our inability to control our echo system

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Speaker 1: amongst a predatory system. And when I mean it gets

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Speaker 1: no credatory, then people actually using your black body as wealth. Um.

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Speaker 1: And we've we've been enabled unable to do that. And

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Speaker 1: I think part of the reason why we've been able

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Speaker 1: to unable to do that is, you know, uh, we've

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Speaker 1: become a part of the American spectacle to a certain degree. Um.

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Speaker 1: Those those leaders, many of who we know, many who

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Speaker 1: we don't, who've died, who sacrifice in the sixties and

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Speaker 1: seventies and before UM, they understood organization, they understood grassroots organization. UM.

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Speaker 1: There's a difference between grassroots organization and CNN and showing

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Speaker 1: the protests all across the country because the grassroots organization

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Speaker 1: you don't see. And I think we suffered in in

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Speaker 1: the seventies when this sixties and the seventies, when this

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Speaker 1: country waged the war against that they cointell pro and

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Speaker 1: all these other programs. They destroyed any semblance of black nationalism,

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Speaker 1: and people are afraid to say that, even black people.

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Speaker 1: And I think we have to begin to get back

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Speaker 1: to grassroots organization through supplemental education. UM. And when I

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Speaker 1: say supplemental education, I think you have to start thinking

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Speaker 1: about different ways of education in this century. How it looks. Look,

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Speaker 1: we're in the pandemic and kids aren't even in school anymore.

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Speaker 1: So we have to really get back to grassroots organization.

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Speaker 1: That grassroots organization allows you now to have accountability. When

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Speaker 1: you have accountability, you can start nurturing and producing the

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Speaker 1: leadership that you need in politics socially. UM. But when

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Speaker 1: you don't do that, you're stuck with choosing the lesser

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Speaker 1: of two evils. Um. You know, And I think we

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Speaker 1: can do it, but I think it's it's gonna take

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Speaker 1: a pivot, a really hard pivot. UM. And a really

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Speaker 1: maybe uncomfortable for most of us reflection process about about

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Speaker 1: what's good for us and what's not good for us.

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Speaker 1: But where's that commonality? It's funny you say that, because

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Speaker 1: an Tiffany, I want you to chime in here. Right

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Speaker 1: when you're speaking about creating budgets and creating a plan

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Speaker 1: for yourself financially, right, where does black nationalism fall in

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Speaker 1: that plan for black families? Because so many people ask me, Hey, Devout,

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Speaker 1: we're in the pandemic and I'm thinking about trying to invest,

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Speaker 1: but how do I make sure I invest in my

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Speaker 1: people and myself not just just investing quote unquote, because

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Speaker 1: they're kind of lost. So one of the things I

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Speaker 1: teach the folks that followed me is that you vote

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Speaker 1: with your dollar. I can't remember being really young and

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Speaker 1: going to like this corner story that we all used

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Speaker 1: to go to, and I noticed they only followed the

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Speaker 1: black kids, even though we went there all the time.

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Speaker 1: And I went home and I complained to my mom, like, well,

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Speaker 1: every time I go in there, they followed me, but

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Speaker 1: they don't follow my friend Susie, And she said, then

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Speaker 1: why do you continue to go there? That your dollar

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Speaker 1: is a vote, you're allowing them to say that, Um,

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Speaker 1: we get to treat you this way, and you continue

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Speaker 1: to come here. So I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: she's right, So I stopped going and I told a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine, we just stopped going, and before I know,

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Speaker 1: we all stopped going, and that store started to close

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Speaker 1: because they could no longer. It was mostly us that

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Speaker 1: was going there, and they couldn't. They couldn't sustain. It

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Speaker 1: was like one of these little corner stores. They couldn't

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Speaker 1: sustain without our dollar. So imagine, if you know, if

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Speaker 1: we were more intentional with that, and so even just

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Speaker 1: on some of the smaller level. So I have am

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Speaker 1: a black running business. I hired largely black women, and

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Speaker 1: we serve black women, and I'm really intentional, but not

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Speaker 1: just the women that we serve, teaching them financial education,

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Speaker 1: but internally as well. Right, So the women who work

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Speaker 1: for me, not only do I pay them well, I

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Speaker 1: also have financial educators come in folks to teach them

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Speaker 1: how to invest, Folks, to teach them what it looks

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Speaker 1: like to set aside for retirement, folks, to teach them.

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Speaker 1: We just had a class the other day to teach

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Speaker 1: them how do you set up your LLC. How can

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Speaker 1: you properly become an independent contractor that's what you desire?

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Speaker 1: How do you get the p P P loan? We

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Speaker 1: had that kind of internal training, and I think that

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Speaker 1: comes down to it's almost like we have to have

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Speaker 1: more home training when it comes to financial education. See,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what And and I know, Mr Carl, you

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Speaker 1: gotta run, so I want to let you close out

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Speaker 1: on this topic before you bounce. But building an infrastructure.

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Speaker 1: I know you've worked in the corporate space for so

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Speaker 1: many years, but it's been hard for black people to

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Speaker 1: penetrate corporate culture because there's not many of us there.

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Speaker 1: How can we begin to use this voice now in

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Speaker 1: this momentum to push towards changing corporate culture so we

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Speaker 1: can have more voice, more of a voice. Use so

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Speaker 1: many businesses now I've seen when they're asked to kind

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Speaker 1: of the pull up and show us who's in your

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Speaker 1: corporate leadership positions? There are none of us if not baby,

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Speaker 1: So where can I think that's an area that we

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Speaker 1: must demand change and we must demand it at the

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Speaker 1: board seat level that they have to make that board

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Speaker 1: more diverse. Uh, And we can't get caught up in

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Speaker 1: the world be patient, uh, because as I said, we've

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Speaker 1: been patient for several hundred years. So we know we

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Speaker 1: have to have more people on the board. We have

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Speaker 1: to have more people in leadership at corporations who look

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Speaker 1: like us, who really want to uh make a change

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Speaker 1: in the industry. If you look at my organization, I

583
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Speaker 1: have the most diverse team in the entire media industry,

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Speaker 1: diverse and gender, diverse in color. Uh. And that is

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Speaker 1: not by accident. That was by plan because it is

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Speaker 1: good for business. It gives you access in places that

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Speaker 1: you would normally not get. It also gives you the

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Speaker 1: diversity of thought. I mean, when we sit around, we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of debates on should we do this,

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Speaker 1: and why we shouldn't do that, and what else we

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00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: should do. So I think we have to as part

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Speaker 1: of the solutions, this is one of them. We have

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Speaker 1: to have more people who look like us in corporate

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Speaker 1: leadership and on corporate boards. And we have to demand it.

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Speaker 1: No more saying can you do it please? We have

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Speaker 1: to demand it. And that's why I'm so inspired. I'm

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Speaker 1: so energized by the young people that I see as

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Speaker 1: a central front line workers in this pandemic on racism.

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Speaker 1: So we who are in corporate America, as I sent

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Speaker 1: out a letter the other night, we have to do

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Speaker 1: our part. We can't just let people march and be

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00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: sprayed and everything else and beat. We have to do

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Speaker 1: our part in the corporate boardrooms and in the corporate

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Speaker 1: office is to close the deal for them because we

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00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: have the access, we have the influence. They see that

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Speaker 1: on the news, but we have we sit down with

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Speaker 1: meetings and everything else with them, so we have a

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Speaker 1: real obligation. I'm excited about it. I'm energized about it,

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Speaker 1: and as I said, I'm not gonna let them down

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Speaker 1: if it's the last thing I do. Mr car first

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Speaker 1: of all, thank you so much for your time. We

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00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: know you have someone we appreciate you. You you just you.

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Speaker 1: You kind of snuck us in right in between me

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Speaker 1: and so we thank you so much. Man. I'm going

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00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: to continue to reach out to you for for more advice.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna help. I appreciate your brother and thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: Anything you need me to do, I'm on board and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your guys. Tiffany really quick they got to

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Speaker 1: see Mr Carr at the Blueprint men something a great

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Speaker 1: area in a great space for black men to get together.

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Speaker 1: I know we had a great time. That's Ryan and

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Speaker 1: Kenny has the Brooklyn combine. It will be a dope

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Speaker 1: opportunity to get us. We all need to get together, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you the car, take care left to

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Speaker 1: the wife. All Kenny, I want to throw to you

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Speaker 1: because Mr Carr said something that was so It was

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Speaker 1: something you said to me years ago when we were

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Speaker 1: talking about sports, right, and you said that everyone is

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Speaker 1: so focused on getting that kid to be the next

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, the next Lebron James. Right, but we're not

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Speaker 1: grooming any politicians. We're not grooming any judges, we're not

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Speaker 1: grooming any attorneys. So we don't have the ability to

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Speaker 1: take up that space. Like Mr Carr says, we need

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Speaker 1: more people in corporate structure, but we're not grooming our

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Speaker 1: kids and take up those places. Can you talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about how we can you know what, and

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00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: and think about it like every day, right, we get up,

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00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: we get tweets, we get um social media, post, Facebook, Instagram,

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00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: you name it about what the far right has said,

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Speaker 1: what the far left has said. From uh, where do

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Speaker 1: you get where the base to get what the black

642
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: voice says, the black voices that we hear, and not

643
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: to knock anyone. They're usually pivoting from whiteness on either side.

644
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: So when when they get in those positions of political power,

645
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: whether it's in the corporate world, whether it's in a

646
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: nonprofit world, or it's in the philanthropy world, whatever those

647
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: worlds are, that helped keep keeps this ecosystem going there

648
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: informed by that our children. We live in a society

649
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: or community where we've we've been um targeted so much

650
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: and you know, put in such a difficult position that

651
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: success is usual league. You know, I gotta get out

652
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: the hood, I gotta get away, never to come back.

653
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: So we're not cultivating or nurturing the mindset, the ideology.

654
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: We're not like, we don't need uh heroes, we don't

655
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: need martyrs. We we can grow money and understand economics.

656
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: But what I think we need more importantly is ideology

657
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: and that audeology has to emanate. You would like it

658
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: to emanate from the home, but sometimes the home is

659
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: not there to do it. So what's the next step

660
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: the community? So those who have the resources in the community,

661
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: the retired financial people, the retired teachers, the retired um politician, whoever,

662
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: they need to begin coming together and and and forming

663
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: a a commitment and a community to nurture and train

664
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: through education and knowledge that hopefully leads to wisdom. So

665
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: now you have an eighteen year old kid, when when

666
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: so now our teenag used the twelve and thirteen and

667
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: they they know the issues are right. When you study

668
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: the civil rights era, you know, it's funny because we

669
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: look at those images of children, I mean people being

670
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: hosed and bitten and beaten by police. The conversation that

671
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: we don't have in this country is, you know many

672
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: of those people, they weren't adults, They were kids, twelve, fifteen, seventeen, nineteen,

673
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: and they drove it. Um, we we get stuck on

674
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: the leaders, but they drove it. And he always the teams,

675
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: the kids always seem to be the one to put

676
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: their bodies on the loss. And they don't have the fear.

677
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: They don't have the fear. So we we as a community,

678
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: it's not too late. We have to stop. You know,

679
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: we're not organizing enough. We're not you know, we're organized enough.

680
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: We're having this conversation right now. Um, those who are

681
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: in that position need to create a a a hub

682
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: and UM share information, have accountability because one thing, and

683
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: I think you know, um, Mr Carr and and you

684
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: know you guys may be able to spread this a

685
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: little bit more than me. Capitalism is at its advanced

686
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: stage in America. UM, It's it's not as sexy in

687
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: America as it used to be. It's a little bit

688
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: more sexy in China and other places of the world

689
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: right now. If we are suffering because of institutional and

690
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: systemic racism, not just UM socially, politically and economically, we're

691
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: also suffering health that this pandemic has shown that UM

692
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: as advanced and the economic fallout of this we haven't

693
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: seen yet. You're gonna talk about that definitely could speak

694
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: way more than I can. But we're gonna suffer. So

695
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: our ideas of how we look at economics, how we

696
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: look at advanced advancing in this society has to be different.

697
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: It has to be different, you know. And that's something

698
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: us now too, that this is gonna be the worst

699
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: in the depression and what we're seeing financially economically across

700
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: the country to world, UM, how are you using your

701
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: platform to prepare people for this? Because I know a

702
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: lot of you know, people in general, but especially our

703
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: black community. We want to know how we're gonna be

704
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of this or how we can

705
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: maybe some people climb out of this hole that they're

706
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: now in. Um So, how are you speaking to um

707
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: the masses about this recovery that's gonna have to happen.

708
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: So it's been a little deceptive because the market keeps

709
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: rallying and folks are getting excited, and I see so

710
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: many black folks getting the side that I'm like, but says,

711
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: do you do you have do you have a home

712
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: that you own, do you have retirement? You're excited about

713
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: the points, and are you even invested in the stock market?

714
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: You're you're cheering from the silence, but you're not really

715
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: playing the game. And that's what I find with our community,

716
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: that we're not really actually in the game. We don't

717
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: have the basic fundamentals. So one of the things that

718
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: I so, I used to actually be a school teacher

719
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: in northern New Jersey, one of the black cities in

720
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: the country. I still here live here in NewYork, So

721
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: it was it was interesting, um um, what was said

722
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: earlier about that folks don't want to stay here after

723
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: they've gotten successful. They want to lead the hood, you know.

724
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: But I was like, no, I was really adamant that

725
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: my husband was born raised here. Um. They've since turned

726
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: out a project that he grew up in. But I'm like, no,

727
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: I want to live here in Newark. I taught here

728
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: in NewYork, I was born here in Newark, um, and

729
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: I want folks to see me at the local you know,

730
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: um grocery store. So one of the three things that

731
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: I do is what I used to even do when

732
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: I used to be a preschool teacher here, which is

733
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: we need knowledge, access, and community. Those are the three

734
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: key tools that I use to activate whatever change and

735
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: transformation I want to make um in the financial lives

736
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: of the people that I served. So knowledge, when we

737
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: know better, we do better. So as I learned, I

738
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: know that one of my superpowers is education. I know

739
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: how to teach. I've been teaching for twenty years now,

740
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: ten years in the actual classroom. I am a good teacher.

741
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: If I learned a thing, I can teach a thing,

742
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: and then I can teach you to then teach a thing.

743
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: So knowledge is critical and pair our memory, access This

744
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: is where we struggle because access typically comes through a person.

745
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: There are some doors that can only be open from

746
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: the other side. There is no door knock. Someone has

747
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: opened the door and literally pull you in. And so

748
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: very very rarely do we have access on the other side.

749
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: So when you get in, it's so important to teach

750
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: folks that when you do get in that room, when

751
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: you do get to sit on that table, to come

752
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: open the door, kick your foot open and and and

753
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: bring folks in with you. And so one of the

754
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: things I do is that can reach out to other

755
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: black financial educators. We have a a number of communities

756
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: that we're a part of online and I'm always tapping

757
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: into them to continue to teach our community, Like, oh,

758
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: hey till you teach docs, can you teach this Wednesday? Wednesday?

759
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: Hey ask you teach financial mindset? Can you teach on Thursday?

760
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: Hey learticulately you teach credit? Can you teach this this Friday?

761
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: And And so that access is what I'm always trying

762
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: to provide and finding higher and deeper levels of educators

763
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: that I can I can tap into to bring that

764
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: access to this community and community I am. My parents

765
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: were born and raised in Nigeria, and I've seen firsthand

766
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: over and over and over again that we were best

767
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: in the community. We as in you know, folks of

768
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: African descent. This is where this is from where we've come.

769
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I went to Nigeria and

770
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: I met someone in the village and they were like,

771
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, they told me their name and it was

772
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: their last name was Eliche. I was like, oh, Stap,

773
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: my last name is Leiche. Then the second person, you know,

774
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm check, oh my lad place is my dad's

775
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: like Tiffany. Everyone's last name is Eliza. And I'm like

776
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: what how was that? He was like, that's how a

777
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: village is set up, that this is your family's family family.

778
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: And I thought wow. And so they collectively come together

779
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: to live together, to work together, to to rise up together.

780
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: And we've come from that tradition that we work best

781
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: in community. So what I do here is I've created

782
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: a community. It's about we're almost a million strong and

783
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: we work collectively on our finances together. Because you might

784
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: be a single I'm not a single mom, so I

785
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: might not get it, but someone in that group is

786
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: and she can walk you through. You might have five kids.

787
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: I don't have five kids, but someone in that group

788
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: is and she can walk you through. So I pump

789
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: in the knowledge, I pump in that access, and that

790
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: community helps to take care of each other. And so

791
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: that's what I've been I've been really trying to struggle

792
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: with what do I do so when things like this happened,

793
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: I feel like you're supposed to lean into your gifts

794
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: and talents, and I know that mine is really um

795
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: making connections and and teaching. So I'm even now just

796
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: working on a ten step foundational financial foundational plan that

797
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: we can all follow, like starting with budget, ending with

798
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: the state planning, and not making a complicated not making

799
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: it so overwhelming because we lack that foundation. You know,

800
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: I think I was. It was like a Forbes article

801
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 1: that said the African American community in the United States

802
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: by by Tift will be bankrupt. That's like crazy and disheartening.

803
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: So how how do you prevent that there's something because

804
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: of systemic resaid, some racism that are not quite in

805
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: our control? Like I just got my house a praise

806
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: and it was a praise twenty hollars lower than I

807
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: know it should have been. I turned around all the

808
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: black pictures in the house. I knew already because I

809
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: know that's just how it goes. And it was quarantine

810
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: because I would say I had in my mind, I'm

811
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: gonna ask my white grin Catherine to come and be

812
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: me while I'm not here. Who I'm about to do

813
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: that that you have to do that your white friend

814
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: will show your house as you. But because it's quarantine,

815
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to do so. And I was pissed

816
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: because I know I didn't get the value of my home.

817
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: Now that sounds like a personal problem, it's not. Because

818
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: if my home is the value by whether because I'm black,

819
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: are live in a black neighborhood, then that is that

820
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: is the that like whole, ownership is the cornerstone for wealth.

821
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: So if I've lost twenty of my wealth, then I

822
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: can pass on twenty percent less to my stepdaughter Alyssa.

823
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: And then imagine, just like in this community alone, how

824
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: much less wealth this black community I live in has

825
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: compared to the town next over. And so we we

826
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: are bleeding wealth because of these because of systemic racism.

827
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: So I have a quick question, Tiffany, though, because this

828
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: is the question I always get from people if we

829
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: know that that's the fight, and we know that this

830
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: is gonna happen, what's the point of voting. What's the

831
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: point of taking part in politics if it's so rigged

832
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: against us? And to be honest, I don't even have

833
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: an answer or a lot of these these questions, and

834
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: especially financially, you know, we when we spoke to Mr

835
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: Carl two days ago, he said the same thing about

836
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: house appraise was an insurance. And even when we spoke

837
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: to Vice President Biden, he said verbatim, he knows that

838
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: as an older white man that if I go get

839
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: the same house built as he gets built in a

840
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: different area because I live somewhere different, my house is

841
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a praise lower, my insurance is gonna be higher,

842
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a lot more different. Pass on wealth.

843
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: How do we play a role in politics to help finances?

844
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: That's what people want to know. Because it's it's a

845
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: political season now between now in November, all we're gonna

846
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: do is here speech after speech after speech, and people

847
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: are either like I don't care, so I'm not gonna vote,

848
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: or they're just like I'm lost, so you know, I

849
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: don't I don't know els, how do we approach that

850
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: from a financial stamp. I think first of all, its creating,

851
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: Like what is it that we want? You know, what specifically,

852
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: what specific um tennants do we want? You know, we

853
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: want to be treated fairly as it relates to our homes, right,

854
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: we want to be under we don't want to be

855
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: over police. What does that look like? And how do

856
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: we let a politician know that if if you don't

857
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: adhere to this, then you won't be voted in right.

858
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: So so for example, if I brand sometimes want to

859
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: work with their branding shot to me the other day

860
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: and I just know that their their CEO, Jeff said

861
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: that he was giving all this money to the current

862
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: inhabitant of the White House, and you're reaching out to me.

863
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: Black asked that y'all talk about that as Black asked

864
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: me part of some like I was like, no, you know,

865
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get access to my community, you know,

866
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: with your racist ideals. And so one of the things

867
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: I do is I I block you know what things

868
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: are not in alignment. So if we could be clear

869
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: about you know, this is what's unfair and this is

870
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: what we're needing, then like even voting with your dollars,

871
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: like I have so now switched from the bank bank

872
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: that I was a part of, and now I bank

873
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: my business. I have five businesses, one of them when when,

874
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: which is eight figures a year, we're back. We banked

875
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: with a black bank now, So it's those shifting your

876
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: funds like that, you know what I mean? Because you

877
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: could talk about it, but we gotta be about it, like, Okay,

878
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm banking with this black business. Okay, you know what.

879
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna go to the cleaners, the black cleaners

880
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: down the street. Okay, you know what I'm actually going

881
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: to work with. Like I look at my team, I'm

882
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: always asking myself, are we black enough? Right? And so

883
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: it's like ninety fopercent black women, And I'm just like, okay,

884
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm they know already when I'm looking for someone because

885
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: most of the women on my team are corporate refugees.

886
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: They have been mistreated by corporate America and they fled

887
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: and so now they work here. So I'm always looking

888
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: for ways, even the smallest and the biggest ways of

889
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: where I could put my money or my black ass

890
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: mouth is. So that's what we need to do. So

891
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: it's like you say, a thing. But it's your money

892
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: in the alignment with that, are you using it to

893
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: vote for the person that it's telling you this is

894
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: what they're going to do, And if they don't, are

895
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: you voting them out when they're when they're not? So so, Kenny,

896
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense if we if we put our

897
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: money where I'm out is, we can gain political capital. Right.

898
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: But then when it comes to asking, like Tiffany said,

899
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: you have to ask for what you want. And everyone

900
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: says this buzzword criminal justice reform, but no one has

901
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: yet to explain exactly what criminal justice reform looks like.

902
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: And can a president change criminal justice reform on his own?

903
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: Because I'm not gonna lie, I've been guilty myself. I'm

904
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: saying we had eight years of a black president and

905
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: the criminal justice system doesn't look any better. And I

906
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: know a part of that has to do with the

907
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 1: fact that black people put their hands up and said,

908
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: we got a black president. We didn't go out and vote,

909
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: We didn't go out vote for local judges, we didn't

910
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: vote for Congress. What can we do to help people

911
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: better understand the criminal justice system and how we can

912
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: change it? Um? The criminal justice system is one of

913
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: the stalwarts to make sure racism persists. Um, the financial

914
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: system is one of the vanguards to make sure racism exists,

915
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: the housing market, but the criminal justice system, and not

916
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: just criminal justice, the legal system, because it's also civil

917
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: things that happened in court concerning consumerism versus corporations. Most

918
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: of these judges choose the corporation over the consumer, as

919
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: they do the government over the defendant of the culture

920
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: of American jurisprudence, which is baked based on Anglo Saxon

921
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: jurisprudence law and for people, if you want to have

922
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: a really strong no chaser understanding of American society as

923
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: it comes to criminal justice and the rights of black people,

924
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: there's no better decision for anyone to have their children

925
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: read at the earliest possible age where they can comprehend

926
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: is Dread v. Scott. Where um the the decisions did

927
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: the Dress good decision, the Taney's decision said that a

928
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: black person has no rights that a white man has

929
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: to respect for the most part, and that is one

930
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: of the most important decisions. So criminal justice and the age,

931
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: this digital age that we live in where everything is digitized,

932
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: the racism is digitized. The misogyny is digitized. You name,

933
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: it is digitized, and we have brands in this marketing.

934
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: We forget America is historically violent, but it's also historically

935
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: masterful at propaganda. Um. Criminal justice reform is a cliche.

936
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: It means absolutely nothing, Um, because you had, as you

937
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: just mentioned, you had Obama coming to the White House

938
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: and people put to their thinking caps off through the

939
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: ship out of the window because they thought that his

940
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: blackness transcended the position that he was in, which was

941
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: he was the now head of the American empire, right,

942
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: and they stopped thinking. He put and I've been in

943
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: front of several of these federal judges. He put a

944
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: bunch of judges on that bench and they're no different

945
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: than the judges that Bush put on that pitch. Um.

946
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: Criminal justice reform is a cliche that in my opinion,

947
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: whiteness figured out, Wow, this criminal justice thing is a problem.

948
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: You know, we are only five percent of the world's population,

949
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: but we incarceerate of the world's prison population, and the

950
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: majority of that or black and brown people. We're constantly

951
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: removing black men from their community, marginalizing them, education system,

952
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: all the underlying risk factors that would create the pathway

953
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: to prison. We've done nothing about except worse than though.

954
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, really I live in New York. New York

955
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: is still one of the most segregated school educations in

956
00:53:54,680 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: the country. This is after, you know, watching Um calif

957
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: Browers documentary. I had never seen it and I didn't

958
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: even know, you're honest, So I was like that I

959
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: saw Kenny on it and the way I sobbed for

960
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: that young man and here and you know what's messed up? Um,

961
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: that is one of a million. I was just about

962
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: to say, how many kids are you? And I know million?

963
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 1: How do you? And you? And I know? And Broke

964
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: has gone through that. So the criminal and and remember

965
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: what America has done, it's commodified black dysfunction and pain

966
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: through entertainment and music. So we have that element with

967
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: criminal justice. So what we have to do. Criminal justice

968
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: to me is a cliche. It's it's a way for

969
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 1: people to line in your pockets. Now, it's a great

970
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: thing to to get people riled up and going. But

971
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: the work that needs to be done to pull away

972
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: from that system, it has to happen in our neighborhoods, Newark, Compton, Brownsville,

973
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: and we have to start putting a fence around our

974
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: children through education, through um uh information other outlets, because

975
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: the criminal justice system is targeted towards them. That's what

976
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: happens when you have underfunded schools, when you are pedaling

977
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: your kids nothing but nonsense on entertainment all day that

978
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: you know, no, not to jay Z, but you made

979
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: your career saying you hustle, you sold drugs and you

980
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: got the pretty wife now and you're you're the dawling

981
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: of America. So what do we think we're telling our children? Like,

982
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: what do we is the message? You know where we

983
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: are Our doctors are engineers, where the people who want

984
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: to be botanist scientists uh lumber. So you know, to

985
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: really fix criminal justice, you have to start with education.

986
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: You then start to you have to really we have

987
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: to check these political people. There's a lot of black

988
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: people who hold political office, but they're literally just there

989
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: at the seat at the table to get whatever crumbs

990
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: they can get from whiteness. Um they used. On Sunday

991
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: they go to the churches and they hallelujah it up

992
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: and sweat it up. And then on Monday there down

993
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: at the Democratic leader who doesn't look like them and

994
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: promising him something that only benefits him. So we have

995
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: to remove the political leadership that currently exists. You know,

996
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: we had tremendous people who have lost their lives. Uh

997
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: if you think think about this, back in the day,

998
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: the black leadership was not Democrat or Republican. They were

999
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: black telling you how these issues affected us. Now, all

1000
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: of our political leadership as it comes to criminal justice

1001
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: and everything else, is centered on something else. And then

1002
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: even now we have to understand the legacy even look,

1003
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: look what Biden said. You know everybody now you know

1004
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: if I'm not into this whole spectacle of blackness right

1005
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: now getting on your knees with Kentake Claude looking like

1006
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: you're about to get up, bro, I think I think

1007
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: that's a collective we all in agreement. What you know

1008
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: what that is though, that is two things. That's America

1009
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: is masterful at usurping narratives, particularly narratives of people who

1010
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: they marginalized. And that's also the lack of leadership and

1011
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 1: genuineness in our own community. Because if you had any

1012
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: black political leaders or white for that matter, they would say, yo,

1013
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: cut this ship out. We're not doing But you see

1014
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: what Biden said, Um, oh, I'm not I'm not with

1015
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: defunding the police. Why why are you not with that?

1016
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: You're not with that because from America's racist narrative, they

1017
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: have to have the police there to keep them away

1018
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: from the scary black people. And it happened under Obama.

1019
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: Obama came out trying to protect his boy in the

1020
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: Black Eye, Retiro Henry Lewis Gates and set some powerful

1021
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: things on Monday, and by Friday he was sitting in

1022
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: the Oval Office garden having a beer summit with the

1023
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: cops who did that to his friend. So Biden comes

1024
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: out and says, no, I'm not with the funding. Why

1025
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: because you know what people think, Oh, that means you

1026
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: with these black people, That's what that's about. And and

1027
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: in the criminal justice politically, it's always been used as

1028
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: a fearmonger for white Americans and middle class back black

1029
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: people that the way to help the black community is

1030
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: to police them. So we need to militarize the police,

1031
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: we need to fund them. And that's what that's about.

1032
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: And so so, and that's Biden, that's the guy who

1033
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: supposed these double digit wins. Right now, we're supposed to

1034
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: me to answer to the other racist guy. And that's

1035
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: that's the question I have for for both of you guys,

1036
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: because this is the hardest part for me. People say,

1037
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: do I vote for the lesser of two evils? Is

1038
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: one guy even a good guy? Or do I just

1039
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: not vote? How important is it for us to express

1040
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: out voting power this November? Because and I want to

1041
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: hear from both of you guys, because you both have

1042
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: different platforms, You're both coming from different mindsets. You know

1043
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: your mom, you're a dad, You're into finance, you're into

1044
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: criminal justice. It's like, how how to be honest? I

1045
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: don't even have the answer. People ask me all the time.

1046
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: Are you gonna not vote about Are you gonna vote

1047
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: for Biden because he's Democrats? Are you gonna vote for

1048
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: Biden because he's just anti Trump? Are you gonna vote

1049
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: for Trump because he's promising to do more for the

1050
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: black community. How do we utilize our vote to make

1051
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: it a difference? I think I'll be brief. I think

1052
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: the voting, as Stokely Carmichael talked about it years ago,

1053
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: is an organizing tool to leverage and to bring your

1054
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: community together. If your community is not together, it's pointless

1055
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: in my opinion, because when you think about it, white

1056
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: people vote for financial reasons, how are they gonna be

1057
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: tax and then racially issues? In my opinion, you don't

1058
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: talk about where do black people vote are We're We're

1059
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: in a perpetual position of voting for the lesser evil.

1060
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: So unless we start nurturing our own local political leadership

1061
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: and then nationally, we have to create apparatus is where

1062
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: people in Indiana, Gary, Indiana know what the issues are

1063
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: in North and vice versa, and then sharing that information

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Speaker 1: and then exhibiting it at the polls doing what uh

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Speaker 1: Tiffany said, maybe boycotting, maybe just you know what, I

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01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: don't shop at those stores once they see that, you

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01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: just don't stop at voting. Because vote you could do

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Speaker 1: several things. I know some brilliant people who don't vote,

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01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 1: but they teach kids. They are out here putting the work,

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Speaker 1: the community part. Yeah, so it really it's a personal thing.

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Speaker 1: But in the perfect world, we need to organize and

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01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: we right now we're on the world stage trying to

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01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: get our house together, very position to be, and we

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01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: gotta get out of that space before we can even

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Speaker 1: begin to change the political um landscape. Right now I say,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I believe more even almost more importantly

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Speaker 1: than voting from president is voting locally. Like I are

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Speaker 1: our mayor here in Newark. Ros Baraca his his his

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Speaker 1: father is late and Mary Baraca and um, even before

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Speaker 1: all this rose. I mean, if anybody knows why he's

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Speaker 1: been an organizer, he's been you know. I mean, people

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Speaker 1: have a lot to say about while the one thing

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Speaker 1: you can't say that he's not for his people. Um.

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Speaker 1: And it was, you know, it was so eloquently displayed

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Speaker 1: when we had our protests. He led the protest. He's

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Speaker 1: been leading before he was mayor. He was a principal

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Speaker 1: bo at one of our high school's public high school.

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Speaker 1: Before he was that, he was a teacher at one

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Speaker 1: of our high school. So the community wasn't like, oh,

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Speaker 1: here you go. You just came out. It was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there goes Rod. He's been new you know. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: but putting him you know, in that position, you know,

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Speaker 1: in in this black city was critically important. So we're

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Speaker 1: voting locally. I was talking to my husband about I

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01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, but we need to make sure, like

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01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: you you need to highlight all your boys from back

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01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: in the day till now that registered to vote for

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Speaker 1: these local elections to ensure that um that les Kay

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Speaker 1: said that we that that what's happening is in alignment

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01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: with with what our personal agendas are. I think that

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Speaker 1: especially especially, nothing moves America like violence and money. Okay,

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01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: so you know when people are like, oh my god,

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01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: people know they know my brand. It's pretty happy, go lucky,

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01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: and so you know the good white folks sometimes that

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01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: follow me like you you're not mad the riots, I said,

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Speaker 1: you're not mad at a man being murdered on on

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01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: social media. You're worried about target Yo, somebody die. Get

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Speaker 1: out of my inbox with that. I'm not worried about

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01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: the violence. I am worried about the violence. Racism is violence.

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Speaker 1: It's the longest lasting global pandemic in world history exactly.

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01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: So imagine it, because I want to think I'm thinking

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01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: about it. Was like even if they was just something

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01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: as simple as like collectively telling, because my audience is,

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01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: like I said, about a million deep. Imagine if I

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01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, we are going to do a save

1116
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: a hundred dollar challenge, and I want you to save

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Speaker 1: that hundred dollars and put it in a Black Bank.

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01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: That's a hundred million dollars you know, on the day

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01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: that we could do. Just imagine how powerful that can be.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's when people wake up, when money

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01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: starts shifting hands, when money starts going from one place

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01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: to another. Like people don't care about this bus and stuff,

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Speaker 1: but they listen to violence and they listen to to money.

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Speaker 1: So and so that's that's really what I'm trying to

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01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: lead into it. I feel like you're supposed to ripple

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01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: where you are, right. I can't do all the things.

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01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: All I can do is like or what I all

1128
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: I really should do is lean into what my strengths are,

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Speaker 1: what I'm capable of doing, and rippling out that way.

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Speaker 1: And if someone else it's like watching a movie. You'll

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01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: watch these like like uh like um uh when was

1132
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: it not that? What is that Hobbit movie? But you

1133
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: ever watch these movies in right, Lord of the Rings, right,

1134
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: so you see like the habits are doing this, the

1135
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: true folk are doing this, that everybody is collectively doing

1136
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: what they're doing in their neighborhood, and then by the

1137
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: end it comes together for a greater movement. I think

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01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: that's what we really have to lean into you don't.

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01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: Everyone doesn't have to be on the front lines. Everyone doesn't.

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Speaker 1: There are some people who are who are um, you know,

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01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: who have money, so they should lean into that. There's

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01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: some people who have connections, leaning into that. There's some

1143
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,959
Speaker 1: people who have knowledge, leaning into that. There's some people

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01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: who are gonna be on the front lines. I think

1145
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: critically now that we should be leaning into our individual

1146
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: gifts and talents and amplifying that even more so. So

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01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: that's what I'm working on doing. I'm like, Okay, I

1148
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: know my audience, listen, if we can if we can

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01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: shift a hundred million, two hundred million, I have the

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01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: billion dollars in wealth from we're taking it from here

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,479
Speaker 1: to here. How how powerful can that be? Because banks

1152
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: have come to me and I told him the kick crocks,

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't partner with big banks. I remember I told

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01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: one bank in particular, um, they wanted to be with

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01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: me so bad. I was like, I'm not interested. They

1156
01:04:53,280 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: probably put a system on phone because yes, yes, And

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: I told her for you sis, I'm gonna come in,

1158
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: but let's just I'm coming in as myself. And she

1159
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: was like, okay, you know that's fine. And I came

1160
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: in and I said, I just posted your bank in

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: my Facebook group and asked these sisters in this group

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Speaker 1: how they felt about your bank. Would you like me

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01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: to read those replies? They said no. I said, that's

1164
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: the problem. You know that, you know you want me

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01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: to cape for you. I refuse. You know, and also too,

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01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: I think because I was in my my stepdaughter, my

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01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: bonus started her room the other day. She has on

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01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: her wall her her vision board, and in it she

1169
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: see she's mapping out how to start a business. And

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01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, kids, you think kids don't listen.

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: She is listening. And so I think that us we

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01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: need so many more black entrepreneurs that can create safe

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01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: spaces for black people to be hired and to be

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Speaker 1: looked after. That can create wealth, because when you're an entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: wealth like the sky's the limit, you know of what

1176
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: you could. This company rewards entrepreneurs and punishes folks that

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Speaker 1: work regular nine to five. You pay taxes before you

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01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: get your even your money if you have a nine

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: to five, and if you're an entrepreneur, you dictate what

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: your what your taxes are. It enables me to to's

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01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: enabled me to grow well. Is enabled me to pour

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01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: right back into the community where I live. It's enabled

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01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: me to make certain decisions. So I think that's that's

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01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: another in another way that we can because I'm starting

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01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: to mentor other black women entrepreneurs so that way they

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01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: can hire other other other black folks to work at

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01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: their company. Because I'm like, well, what else can I

1188
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: do to help expand this because I I'm not Look,

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01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm tired of looking outside of us for the solution.

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01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: We don't we don't need to. And I want to say,

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01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a very important part. Um. We have

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01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: to stop emulating whiteness and we have to be comfortable

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01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: um uh innovating who we are. And I think that's

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01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: where we're lacking. Even in the political process. We're lacking

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Speaker 1: the innovation to impact a very young political system. People

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01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: like to think the American political system is always very young.

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01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: Um you can go back generations, you know, six sixty

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Speaker 1: five years ago. It's not a long time to time.

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Speaker 1: Um we I would love to see in the next

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Speaker 1: coming years or this moment in time really inspire the

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01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: young generation to start forming their own political parties. I

1202
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: think it's very important, um I. And back to the

1203
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: criminal justice thing. There is no criminal justice. Criminal justice

1204
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: reform is not giving money to any of these entertainment

1205
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: companies for social justice reform or talking head Van Jones,

1206
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, that's all gained because ultimately, if

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01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: you want to change this criminal justice system, you have

1208
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: to get rid of these people. You have to get

1209
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: rid of certain laws you have to do, and if

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01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: you're not doing that, you're literally moving furniture around and

1211
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Speaker 1: in the voting process. If we're not if we're not

1212
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: using information and data to make wise choices with knowledge

1213
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: and wisdom, we're simply moving furniture around in that sector.

1214
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: And we can't afford to just move things around. It's

1215
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: very critical for for black people in this country, as

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01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: it always is that I have a have an interview

1217
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: with Essence as I gotta jump off. I don't want

1218
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: to my wife, my wife and my wife, you know,

1219
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: my wife. My wife told me. I told her I

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01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 1: was coming on this show. Tell her, I say him

1221
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: for having me on. It's a pleasure, Tiffany. We love you.

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you already. No peace, guys,

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: know peace, Kenny. I appreciate you, bro Yo, listen, I

1224
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: love you guys. One thing I want to say, and

1225
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 1: it really it's really important to me. I don't f

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Speaker 1: with these entertainers. I think these entertainers have their gender,

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01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: ain't right. The fact that you guys from the inception

1228
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: have been using your platform and your voice to educate

1229
01:08:54,760 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 1: and inform and listen is powerful and I noticed it

1230
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: and it means a lot to me. Whatever you guys need,

1231
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm here. Appreciate you for always letting us lean on

1232
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: you with y and says, we know what we don't know,

1233
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: so if we have to calling the reinforcements, Look, we're

1234
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: in a foxhole together and we replacement is in between y'all.

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01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: Those only replacements we got. Wow, that was amazing, so

1236
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: much knowledge, so much more to this uff. I feel

1237
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: like we just kind of that was just a tip

1238
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: of the iceberg, and it really makes me wonder and

1239
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: it kind of lit this fire in me. For season

1240
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: four of Dead as Podcasts, how much more we have

1241
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: to discuss because this is not something that's gonna be

1242
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: around for just like a week or two or a month.

1243
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: This is going to be a movement for several months

1244
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: and years to come. And I have to say this

1245
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: when we first started doing Dead Ass podcast for us,

1246
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: it was to talk about millennial Black love and millennial

1247
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: Black family, and it is. But we realize now more

1248
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: than ever that speaking about millennial Black love and family

1249
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: is talking about trying to get rid of systematic oppression,

1250
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: trying to talk about social injustice, trying to push forward

1251
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: economic empowerment to all of our people so that we

1252
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: as a community can continue to grow. I mean, I

1253
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: think that we have so much more to talk about

1254
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: going into season four, and just so much more people,

1255
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: so many more people to bring on to share with

1256
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: you guys, because like I said, we know what we

1257
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: don't know, but we know people who do know exactly

1258
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: if you're black love, Black family. We cannot continue to

1259
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: exist and to thrive in an environment like this. And

1260
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: we've had four hundred plus years before us and we

1261
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: still have a long march ahead of us. So we

1262
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: want to send a special thank you to Kenneth Montgomery

1263
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: who has been on. He's been on the podcast. We're

1264
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: going to have them back on again for sure. Kenneth Montgomery,

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01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: He's like family to us. Appreciate you. Kenny Um. The

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01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: budget Minista Tiffany Leech, who was also in another episode

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Speaker 1: that we have because there's so many different ways to

1268
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: break down finance and economy, but particularly pertaining to right

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01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: now with a recession that's about to hit. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was so important to have her shed her light

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Speaker 1: on that. And of course Mr Lewis Carr, who has

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Speaker 1: been great like the mentor to de Val and has

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Speaker 1: really taking him under his wings. So I appreciate somebody

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Speaker 1: like that who you can call on when we have

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Speaker 1: things like this, absolutely, you know, some advice on And

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Speaker 1: I think it's important, especially for Mr Lewis Car because

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Speaker 1: he talks about corporate corporate culture, and for so many

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Speaker 1: years black people have felt like it's difficult for us

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Speaker 1: to exist in corporate culture because there's so few of us.

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Speaker 1: But here's a man who's existed for over thirty one years,

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Speaker 1: raised billions of dollars, and he's done it at an

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Speaker 1: international level. Um, I think we need to continue to

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Speaker 1: groom young men and young women to occupy that space.

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Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about trying to occupy space,

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Speaker 1: but if we have no one to occupy this space,

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Speaker 1: there will be no more Lewis Cars, there will be

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Speaker 1: no more Tiffany and Lee Chase, there will be no more,

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01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: Kenneth mc comies. We're talking about financial advisement attorneys. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about ceo s and presidents, very vital to making

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Speaker 1: this world run. So thank you so much for being examples,

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01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: thank you for educating us, and thank you for being

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Speaker 1: a part of the dead ass community. So, babe, do

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Speaker 1: you have a moment of truth for what we've just experienced?

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Speaker 1: That was? That was heavy? Man? Were you nervous? Were

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Speaker 1: you nervous just taking on this project and trying to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, you know. The reason why I feel

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Speaker 1: like I was maybe a little apprehensive at first was

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Speaker 1: just because anytime you step foot into that political realm,

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Speaker 1: it creates contention, It creates divide you have political and

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Speaker 1: not whatsoever. And I hope you don't either. You should

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Speaker 1: probably discuss with the prospective spouse. Thank you. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that we know that now. Um, but yeah, it was

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01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: just it was a little nerve wracking, just because whenever

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Speaker 1: you step foot into this little chrome and there's so

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01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: many things to um, you know, decompress and to figure out,

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Speaker 1: and it causes a lot of you know, contention. Like

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing that we've always heard growing up is

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01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: like there's certain things you don't discuss friends, and now

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01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, everyone has a voice social media. You know,

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01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: you see friends on Facebook post and certain things and

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01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a second, cist, I don't know you

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01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: felt that way. Let me unfriend you, but you know what,

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: let me not unfriend you. So you can see these

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Speaker 1: posts about the posts as a rebuttal, you know, it

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01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: becomes like this this silent debate that happens online, um

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Speaker 1: with with friends or you know, acquaintances. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it is a little a little touchy, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's necessary. I feel like everything that's happening right

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01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: now is creating a level of discomfort for everyone. You know.

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Speaker 1: That's like I saw a team recently that said something

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01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: about like it took for sports to stop, entertainment to

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01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: stop every pretty much everything that would have been a

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01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: distraction stopped. And this for people to realize that there

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Speaker 1: was a problem, a problem everything has like everyone had

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: to disconnect to realize, oh my goodness, you know. Um.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because you can even feel attention sometimes

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Speaker 1: just leaving your front door, like you know, having white

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01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: neighbors that are just like hey, you know, you're not

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Speaker 1: sure if they're comfortable. Yeah, it's like us and we're

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01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: not comfortable with them. It's like, do we even discuss

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Speaker 1: what's happening? Do we act like it never happened? And

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Speaker 1: prior to this, like you know, a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 1: everything was finus like Nebory neighbor, and now it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like it's a little bit attention in the year.

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, I think overall in general, it's just

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Speaker 1: a very uncomfortable time. But I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a time that's this is a catalyst for change

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Speaker 1: right now, and I think we should embrace that. And

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Speaker 1: that might even be my moment of truth kind of

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: spiraling into that. It's just like using this discomfort to

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Speaker 1: promote change. How am I going to change? How am

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: I going to create a better future for my children?

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01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: How can I do that from a grassroots level? What

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01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: role can I take in my community? There's so many

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: things to reflect on and now to strategize to see

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Speaker 1: how I can be the actual change that I want

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01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: to see? Right I can? I? I see that. That's dope,

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: because so many nights I sat here with you and

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01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 1: we were trying to figure out what do we do?

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01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: How do we do it that? And what rocked me

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Speaker 1: to was having that conversation with our boys, you know, Jackson,

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01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: particularly because he's older, he can kind of grab and

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01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: that was the most heartbreaking conversation to have. I felt

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01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: like I stripped a piece of his innocence a way,

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01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: because you know, for him to feel like, wow, there's

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Speaker 1: people out there that just won't see me as Jackson,

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Speaker 1: my sweet you know, EmPATH, EmPATH of a child, and

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Speaker 1: it just, oh my goodness, it was. It was a

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01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: lot to deal with. Well, my moment of truth is this.

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Speaker 1: I realized something throughout this whole process. We're constantly talking

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Speaker 1: about occupying space as a community. But then I realized

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Speaker 1: that we are not doing a good enough job of

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Speaker 1: grooming the next generation to occupy that space. And I'm

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Speaker 1: guilty of it too. I've never mentioned to my kids

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Speaker 1: about being a politician, about being a judge, about being

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Speaker 1: a lawmaker. And I'm saying to myself after listening to Kenny,

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Speaker 1: how do we create the change without actual policy? Because

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Speaker 1: the people can change, but if the policy is still

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Speaker 1: in place, systemically, nothing will change. So we have to

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Speaker 1: do a better job as a community of grooming the

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Speaker 1: next generation of leaders in the corporate space, in the

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Speaker 1: political space, so we can get the change that we

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Speaker 1: really want. That's my moment. I love that now needs

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Speaker 1: to find some resources. Anybody got any resources for the kids,

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01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 1: you know, people sharing some resources and things that we

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01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: can read to the kids and things for them to

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Speaker 1: see and where site. So I think that would be

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Speaker 1: great to have as well, so they can see that

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Speaker 1: there's power and being a judge, and there's power and

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Speaker 1: being an attorney and being able to have people who

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01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 1: look like us in those positions looking out for the

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01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 1: greater good. You know, absolutely, well, listen and we appreciate

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01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: you joining us. We thank you so much. We love

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01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: you guys as always make sure, no matter what you do,

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01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: you go out and you vote. Make sure you go

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01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: out there and let people know that you matter and

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01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: make sure that your voice is heard. Absolutely and continue

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Speaker 1: sure when we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out

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Speaker 1: for you, guys. Still kind of touch and go at

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