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Speaker 6: Boy, we got problem.

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Speaker 1: We got problem we can't solve.

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Speaker 7: After the game, he said he's snipered is, which I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna use forever.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 6: That's awesome.

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Speaker 7: He's able to sniper it, so he's snipers it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they would prefer that the receivers break free

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Speaker 2: and get open, prefer they.

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Speaker 6: Don't the start.

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Speaker 7: But he's kind of like a starter at like they

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Speaker 7: were they were beating Rex.

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Speaker 2: Ryan does come across as a tool bag.

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Speaker 1: The mocking critical.

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Speaker 7: I don't think the history of this offense tells you

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Speaker 7: that anybody can do it besides Brady, So.

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Speaker 8: Well well done, Rex, I don't remember that even then.

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Speaker 2: So now we're just making things.

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Speaker 8: I didn't say. He's making it up. I said, I

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Speaker 8: don't remember it.

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Speaker 2: Here, you don't remember it, Paul, it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, and uh, we're gonna be talking Patriots

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours. There's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: to talk about, maybe the least of which is a

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Speaker 2: game against the San Diego.

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Speaker 1: You did it too, builded it. I did it, You

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Speaker 1: did it.

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Speaker 2: I will never stop calling it in San Diego they're

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Speaker 2: the La Chargers. But there is a game on Sunday

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Speaker 2: at one o'clock per year, and maybe we can talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit about that, you know, like, do you

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Speaker 2: have this sneaky feeling they might pull a win off

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Speaker 2: this Sunday?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 6: Really, Okay, I was just about to say, I was

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Speaker 6: gonna say we got off to a much better start today,

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Speaker 6: you know, other than sorry, I don't know, it was

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Speaker 6: a little bit better then right off the top. No, well,

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Speaker 6: after last week, it yees hard, I do I do

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Speaker 6: think there's always a chance from the NFL Chargers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, remember the day when the Chargers would come

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Speaker 2: to Foxborough for a one o'clock game and.

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Speaker 1: You would be like, yeah, it's over.

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Speaker 7: You know, they won seven straight, Like don't even.

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Speaker 2: Don't even turn the buses off, just you know, let

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Speaker 2: them off. They can take the field and then get

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Speaker 2: right back.

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Speaker 6: Have that. I'm trying to think of some of those

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Speaker 6: in eighteen might have been a one o'clock game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Yeah, well the Ladanian Tomlinson checkout game.

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Speaker 6: That was a one o'clock the seven mph yeah that

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Speaker 6: was not a one o'clock game.

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Speaker 11: That was not a not a shooting game, No it wasn't,

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Speaker 11: but it was also Yeah, I mean, they haven't beaten

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Speaker 11: the Patriots in Foxborough since like five.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, seven straight wins overall against.

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Speaker 1: That was to take my team's name out of your mouth,

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Speaker 1: Marty Shotenheimer.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think I think what's holding even thought that

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Speaker 2: and I think that they're a pissed off team.

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Speaker 6: Right now, and I feel like they're playing for the coach.

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Speaker 6: To your point, yeah, I think there's some issues there.

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Speaker 2: I think they're pissed off a little bit, and I'm

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Speaker 2: afraid they might take it out on the Patriots because

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Speaker 2: they've had some games where they should have won. You know,

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Speaker 7: Had some one score games for sure. I I do

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Speaker 7: push back on the like that people think their roster

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Speaker 7: is loaded.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say loaded.

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Speaker 6: They No, I'm not saying you unloaded.

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Speaker 7: But I feel like that's a big narrative, is that

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Speaker 7: they're they're underachieving big time. The rosters loaded. They they

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Speaker 7: They have a really good weapon in Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 2: But don't you think their defense is playing pretty well too?

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Speaker 6: No, it's the.

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Speaker 7: Dead last in past defense. Their their their offense is

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Speaker 7: playing well. Their offenses is eighth and scoring eighth and epa.

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Speaker 8: They played well that night? Yeah, now that this is fine?

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Speaker 7: How was their best defensive partmance of the year.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes the stats can can kill you, Like I thought

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Speaker 6: they played really well, I agree with you, Freddy that night,

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Speaker 6: and then they end up You look at the end

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Speaker 6: of the game, the Ravens ran for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: You know, was that the same the Lions game? They

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Speaker 6: They get two hundred yards rushing to the Lions because

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Speaker 6: they're not bad run defense. Statistically, they're okay the pass

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Speaker 6: defense that's like thirty I think it's thirty second, thirty

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Speaker 7: They might be okay in yards, but their run defenses

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Speaker 7: three years under Brendan Staley, they've been a bad run defense.

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Speaker 7: They're thirty first thing. There's I'm saying that in that respect,

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Speaker 7: this matchup is not terrible for the Patriots that we

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Speaker 7: a lot of too high safeties. They play light boxes,

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Speaker 2: Chick has always done well against that defense. The Tampa

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Speaker 8: No, No, Okay, you don't have to be so dismissing question.

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Speaker 7: I was just I said no, sorry, and I didn't

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Speaker 7: So Tampa two defenses are you know, this is more

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Speaker 7: They play a lot of palms coverage. If we really

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Speaker 1: It, yeah, palms up or palms down.

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Speaker 6: I guess in this case palms up.

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Speaker 7: I suppose, uh, palms coverage, which is a match coverage

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Speaker 7: out of quarters based shells. But the biggest thing is

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Speaker 7: is that they they play with lighter boxes. They'll they'll

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Speaker 7: play with neutral boxes seven guys or even six.

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Speaker 2: Guys, right, because all we want to do is run.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, that's what I said to Evan. I said,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Chargers, don't you look at

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Speaker 1: the Patriots and say, we don't need to get two

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Speaker 1: safeties back? Does nobody that can throw deep?

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Speaker 2: Like, well, if that's what most teams have been doing,

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Speaker 8: Just get that.

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Speaker 7: That's what you would think. And I I'll give Brendan

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Speaker 7: Staley this. He gets a lot of heat understandably because

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Speaker 7: of his game management, right, Like I don't feel like

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Speaker 7: his actual schematic coaching is bad on defense, but game

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Speaker 7: management wise, there've been a disaster, you know, going forward

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Speaker 7: on fourth down a ton just managing like that Week

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Speaker 7: against the Jags, and you know, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 7: But defensively, game plan wise, he's been really really good

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Speaker 6: Last year or so.

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Speaker 7: Last year, a lot of their blueprints, like they put

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Speaker 7: like those teams Miami, especially the Chargers blueprint is what

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Speaker 7: Dolphins offense. So in a lot of ways, I think

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Speaker 7: he's had some good game plans. So maybe he does

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Speaker 7: have a game plan defense this week where he doesn't

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Speaker 7: play with light boxes and says, we know we're not

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Speaker 7: you're not gonna beat us down the field on the outside,

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Speaker 7: and we just have to stop the run.

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Speaker 6: But we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I don't know any coach who doesn't look at it

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Speaker 2: that way. Is that's, you know, dereliction of duty on

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Speaker 2: the hot seat? Well yeah, but Ane, that was that

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Speaker 2: the Patriots and says got to watch out for those

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Speaker 2: shot plays.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think you're crazy.

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Speaker 6: No, yeah, I agree with you on that. I wouldn't

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Speaker 6: necessarily like, I wouldn't kill them if he said, well,

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Speaker 8: A little bit. That's they're not going to beat us

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Speaker 6: But your second part of that, if you're sitting there,

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Speaker 6: you know everybody's back, and you're wondering about them throwing

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Speaker 6: the ball over the top, No, I would that's done.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'd play up, I you know, dare them

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Speaker 2: i'd stuff the box more often than not. You know,

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Speaker 2: I just funnel everything to the middle. Actually you don't

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Speaker 1: To do that. I mean, it's just you look at it.

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Speaker 2: It's just there's nothing really that scaring me. And I'm

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Speaker 2: just going to stop their run because that's what they

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Speaker 6: And I agree with Evan and I think we both

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Speaker 6: talked about this early in the season. Coach not about

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Speaker 6: the palms coverage. I have to be completely upfront and said,

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Speaker 6: I've never heard the term palms coverage before.

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Speaker 1: So that's is that p a l m or pom

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Speaker 1: palms like a pomegranate. Honestly, I've not just goes out

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 6: Usually the stuff that you're talking about, I might not

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Speaker 6: know all the intricacies and what you're talking about.

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Speaker 8: I've heard all the time.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard the same as umbrella coverage.

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Speaker 7: Sure, yeah kind of. Actually, yeah, that's closer than Tampa too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're with Freda.

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Speaker 6: And we all we all ve together, and it was

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Speaker 8: We've all come together.

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Speaker 6: But I agree with Evan about the overall. I think

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Speaker 6: that they have talent, but they don't have a ton

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Speaker 6: of depth. Number one, and I think that's true, and

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Speaker 6: can't lose to Green Bay a game that they absolutely

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Speaker 6: you probably if you're six and five, you're still on

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Speaker 1: For me, it's just the quarterbacks, you know, That's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Hurt's better Remember the day that West Coast

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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't even even it's in the back

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Speaker 6: But I wonder if they think that Staley's done, They're

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Speaker 6: the rest of the games.

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Speaker 1: We're out of it.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I don't. I don't see the modern

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Speaker 8: Don't think that.

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Speaker 6: I think there've been examples of teams that have mailed

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Speaker 2: I just think I think there's more often guys like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play this week. You know. Well that's

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's part of what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I think the guys able to be trying. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but do you remember, and I know you will. Do

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Speaker 8: Was good thatzon I had a good team.

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Speaker 1: This was a Kurt Warner team and we just we just.

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Speaker 6: Looked down on it and we both looked at Fred.

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Speaker 6: They got no shot, and He's like, what are you

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Speaker 1: They were all like, this wasn't that that went to

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Speaker 8: They completely mailed the game.

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Speaker 7: And I mean the Chargers team that came in here

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Speaker 8: They competed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean that game was never in doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it was like forty one to twenty eight. Again, I know,

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Speaker 6: The Cardinals were just like, we'll see you next one.

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Speaker 1: But that was a pretty good matchup going into and

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Speaker 8: Was going to be a tough game of game.

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Speaker 7: A lot of people picked the Patriots to lose. That

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Speaker 6: Patriots team was flawed. Yeah, I thought they were unimpressive

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Speaker 8: I thought they had they were going to have trouble

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and they didn't. They just they rolled. Yeah, running game.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying there's a chance, now, I think there's

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Speaker 2: always a chance.

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Speaker 8: I think there's a chance that Chargers are done.

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Speaker 1: I just I can't lay out like what has to

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Speaker 8: Chances have nothing to do with anything except.

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Speaker 2: Normally I would I would say, you know what, I

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Speaker 2: get over what's going on at quarterback for this team,

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Speaker 2: and you can't win a football game by just running

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you even yeah, I mean every time,

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Speaker 1: do you even think about like it just seems like

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Speaker 1: do you try to kind of bait them and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're not in cover two initially, but you're gonna

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Speaker 1: try to try to point to try to play with them.

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Speaker 6: The weather's supposed to be like on Sunday. Yeah, can

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Speaker 6: I can once.

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Speaker 1: On the weather, he's gonna be Herbert will be just fire.

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Speaker 2: I think it's supposed to be these forties yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Forty five percent chance of rain, forty nine degrees.

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Speaker 7: I just look at the Chargers offense, which is holding

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Speaker 7: They didn't last week. But they're eighth and scoring, like

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Speaker 7: I said, and justin Herbert is unbelievably good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and they've gone just to Evans point thirty four,

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Speaker 6: twenty four, twenty eight, twenty four, two seventeens, then thirty

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Speaker 2: Is there anything to be taken from the fact that

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Speaker 7: Yes, to an extent, I think, but it was early

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Speaker 8: It was really the first year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, in the second year they had they had the

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there is something to be said for

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Speaker 7: I think the one thing that Herbert in the offense

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Speaker 7: was was pressure. You know, Baltimore had forty one percent

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Speaker 7: pressure rate on Herbert and dialed up some blitzes while

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Speaker 7: time blitzes things like that that really caught them by

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Speaker 7: surprise and seemed to affect them. So if you can,

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Speaker 7: if you can get after Herbert a little bit, then

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Speaker 7: I like any offense, you can kind of take it

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Speaker 1: Consider Herbert mobile?

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yeah, thirty five yard run in the game.

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Speaker 1: I just think about some of those what about like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's very big difference because Evan's right, he's under

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Speaker 1: But why is that some of his own making?

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Speaker 6: No, I think the offensive line is struggling.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean I do think that there's maybe

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But I just think of some

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Speaker 7: Places they have forty past plays of over twenty yards

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Speaker 7: this season forty and they they he has the capability

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Speaker 7: of making any throw at any time, anywhere. Yeah, I

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Speaker 7: the guy dropped it, but that perfect unbelievable. I mean

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Speaker 7: it's and he makes those types of throws on a

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Speaker 7: like whole shots down the field. It doesn't make a difference.

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Speaker 7: I think a lot of people look at him and say, oh,

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Speaker 7: you know, they're four and seven. He's not a winner,

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Speaker 7: you know that type of stuff. Like if you watch

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Speaker 7: I think that a little.

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Speaker 6: I wonder about it because if he just one of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, last year they had that in college too. Last

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Speaker 7: year they did win though, no I don't. And he

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Speaker 6: So, and like you said, like the Green Bay game,

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Speaker 6: they're at Lambeau, which is a tough place to play,

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think Eckler too, is just I mean, he's

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Speaker 6: I wonder what he'll be as a receiver on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: To you a point, Mike, Yeah, because I think that

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Speaker 6: you well, you would think there's no way they're going

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Speaker 6: to let Keenan Allen do what he does to everybody else. Right,

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Speaker 6: than number two.

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Speaker 1: Oh that it's crazy.

442
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Speaker 6: It's like one hundred to twenty nine or something like.

443
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Speaker 6: I think he has ninety seven catches. Yeah, so you

444
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Speaker 6: go to you know, normally Bill would just say, well,

445
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to let that happened. But I don't

446
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,439
Speaker 6: know you're not going to let that happen, right, I

447
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,080
Speaker 6: don't know if you can.

448
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Speaker 1: Trust that Allen's got the fourth most or sorry, third

449
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Speaker 1: most receptions through eleven games in NFL history, with ninety

450
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Speaker 1: seven catches. That the top Michael Thomas in twenty nineteen

451
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Speaker 1: hundred voice like changed Harrison has a hundred very official. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: Michael was, Yeah, it's I think a little something in

453
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Speaker 1: there and give me a little bit of a de Yeah,

454
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Speaker 1: you got a little something.

455
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Speaker 2: You mentioned White going on, you know, coaching matchup. There

456
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Speaker 2: was a time, you know, Staley vous Belichick be like,

457
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Speaker 2: this is huge advantage for the Patriots. Is it that

458
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Speaker 2: much in this game coaching advantage lately? Because Staley's on

459
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Speaker 2: the hot seat, right, but so is Bill Belichick.

460
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Speaker 7: Schematically, No, I don't think it is, because I think

461
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Speaker 7: that Kellen Moore is a pretty good offensive coordinator and Staley,

462
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Speaker 7: I still think is capable of coaching defense. Staley is

463
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Speaker 7: capable of deciding to lose the game for them, like

464
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Speaker 7: he'll go.

465
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Speaker 6: For it on fourth down.

466
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Speaker 8: Hasn't done it as much.

467
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Speaker 7: Yeah, they've been less aggressive this year, and he's almost

468
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Speaker 7: like corrected way too far to the other side of

469
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Speaker 7: the spectrum to try to save his job. It feels like, yeah,

470
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Speaker 7: and so it's possible, but you know, the Keenan Allen point.

471
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Speaker 7: He also has the most receiving yards against non defensive

472
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Speaker 7: backs amongst wide receivers because they use him in the

473
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Speaker 7: slot a lot and they're really good at moving him around,

474
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Speaker 7: so he gets a lot of matchups on linebackers out

475
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Speaker 7: of the slot and he just kills lines amazing.

476
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Speaker 6: How often you know, you think that the guy that's

477
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Speaker 6: really the one guy, right, you think if they're going

478
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Speaker 6: to go to him twelve fourteen tight and they do routine,

479
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Speaker 6: he's double digit targets every week, right, and you'd be like, well,

480
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Speaker 6: he must catch a lot of balls in traffic, and

481
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Speaker 6: then you watch the highlights and it's like, no.

482
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Speaker 8: He just gets open.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did that exactly.

484
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Speaker 8: That makes sense. What Evan's time.

485
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Speaker 7: And they motion him, they put him, you know in

486
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Speaker 7: different you know, three by one stacks bunches in the

487
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Speaker 7: slot and they just keep moving them around and it's

488
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Speaker 7: like finding Waldo. You know, you got to find him

489
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Speaker 7: on every single play.

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Speaker 2: Right, So I want to play a little fill in

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Speaker 2: the blank game. Okay, I love games. Go around the

492
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Speaker 2: bench here. I know the Patriots are gonna win this

493
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Speaker 2: game when blank defensive score. Okay, how about you Evan,

494
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Speaker 2: I know the Patriots are gonna win when.

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Speaker 7: Justin Herbert's on his backside the entire game.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'll say that the Chargers.

497
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Speaker 8: Get shut out in the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wow early not No.

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Speaker 6: It means that they're not scoring. Okay, like if they

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Speaker 6: score points, I don't see any way the Patriots win.

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Speaker 2: This is a lot easier. But I know the Patriots

502
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Speaker 2: are gonna lose when.

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Speaker 6: Starts, the Charge is scoring, The Charge is scoring their

504
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Speaker 6: opening drive. Ye, Justin Herberts does Justin looks like Justin.

505
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Speaker 1: Herbert goes right down the field.

506
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Speaker 7: And your point about the busted coverages and the explosive

507
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Speaker 7: plays the Patriots have given up, this is a team

508
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Speaker 7: that will take advantage of all of that.

509
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Speaker 6: You know, if you if you're.

510
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Speaker 7: Letting guys run free through the secondary, He's gonna find them.

511
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Speaker 7: So this is not You're not playing Tommy Tommy Cutlets

512
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Speaker 7: this time around.

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Speaker 1: I think too. You said getting Allen on linebackers, get

514
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Speaker 1: Eckler on linebackers. I mean, if you could get Eckler

515
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Speaker 1: on Tavia or on Bentley, you know, trying to trying

516
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Speaker 1: to work those matchups. He's he's tough, he's tough, he's quick.

517
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Speaker 2: If the Patriots win this game, the headline will be blank.

518
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Speaker 1: The defense score. I don't know. Bailey's Appy played great?

519
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: Maybe Bailey's Bailey Zappi hour?

520
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Speaker 7: Why?

521
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Speaker 2: Why? Why did they win? Why are you doing this

522
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Speaker 2: to us?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, something like that though, like Zappi probably played and

524
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Speaker 6: gave him a little bit of a spark. And you

525
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Speaker 6: know the Chargers.

526
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Speaker 1: They took it away from Herbert a couple of.

527
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Speaker 6: Times, and I mean a ton of picks.

528
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: But you can make mistakes, okay, but.

529
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Speaker 6: You also can hold them down in the red zone

530
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Speaker 6: because they love to run Eckler in the red zone.

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Speaker 6: The Patriots run defense has been really good. Yeah, so

532
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Speaker 6: you know, maybe you get down there and they're not

533
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Speaker 6: getting touchdowns because they can't get Ekler in the end zone.

534
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Speaker 7: They're the number one run defense in DVOA in the

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Speaker 7: league right now, the.

536
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Speaker 6: One area of the team that I think has been

537
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Speaker 6: consistently at a high level all year.

538
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Speaker 1: I think it's a good switch up, though, for them

539
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: to face Eckler, because you've had Brian Robinson, big dude,

540
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, pretty big dude, Saquon pretty big, you know,

541
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Speaker 1: bigger backs that they've had recently. He's a little bit

542
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Speaker 1: more small, jitterbug, that kind of style. Yeah, I worry

543
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: more different kind of challenge.

544
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, And that's always been traditionally the guys

545
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Speaker 6: that give them more trouble. But to me, it's more.

546
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Speaker 8: As a receiver for this guy.

547
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a really good player.

548
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Speaker 1: At I mean, I think it's just injuries with him.

549
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Speaker 1: If he didn't get injured, I think keeping one of

550
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Speaker 1: the you know, one of those superstars.

551
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Speaker 7: He's like out of the flow of the offense a

552
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Speaker 7: little bit because of the injuries. He's not having the

553
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Speaker 7: same year.

554
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Speaker 6: That he had last year.

555
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Speaker 7: No, And I think a big reason why is once

556
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Speaker 7: you get hurt, now all of a sudden, you're kind

557
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Speaker 7: of jumping onto the moving train, so to speak. And

558
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 7: I think he's had trouble doing that. It's a new

559
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Speaker 7: offensive coordinator that probably still feeling out exactly how to

560
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 7: use a running back like Eckler, and it hasn't exactly

561
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Speaker 7: come to for Wichy for.

562
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Speaker 2: Him, Yeah, it was a day when San Diego would

563
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: pull in for a one o'clock game and be licking

564
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: your chops getting ready for this.

565
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Speaker 1: But it is crazy though, that just they've they beat

566
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Speaker 1: the Patriots twice in like the last twenty years. It

567
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Speaker 1: was that two thousand and five game, and it was

568
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight against Castle game in San Diego

569
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Speaker 1: that I that I went to. I mean, that's otherwise

570
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Speaker 1: they they owned them the whole freaking time. Yeah, pretty remarkable.

571
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Speaker 1: But Philip Rivers was good, you know.

572
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but he was hurt. That one game he

573
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Speaker 2: had an acl that he played through in crazy. That

574
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: was the Ladanian Tomlinson checkout game.

575
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Speaker 1: It was yeah, it was, you know, we were I

576
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Speaker 1: was looking for the picture of that. It's just a

577
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Speaker 1: great picture of him just on the bench with this

578
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Speaker 1: with his vizor on and he's got the big jacket.

579
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Speaker 6: On and just just sitting there.

580
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Speaker 1: You can't see his eyes because he's got the shield on.

581
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Speaker 1: But that was that was probably the most most memorable

582
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Speaker 1: moment of that AFC championship. But it was close though.

583
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Speaker 8: I mean, I remember that was a good game.

584
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: Only had to had was a big part I thought

585
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Speaker 1: in running it, you know, run into the win.

586
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Speaker 6: Kevin Falk made an absolutely insane catch on a third

587
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 6: down at the end that diving extended a drive that

588
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 6: they ended up getting a field goal. That made it

589
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Speaker 6: a two school game. I think they won twenty one

590
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Speaker 6: to twelve, so that was a score yep. And they

591
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Speaker 6: got a field. I think they got a maybe they

592
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Speaker 6: got a touchdown on it to make it a two

593
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Speaker 6: score game, but was twenty one to twelve, but it

594
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Speaker 6: was close. I think it might have been fourteen twelve

595
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Speaker 6: and they were on the verge of giving the ball

596
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Speaker 6: back to the Chargers and he I remember Falk making

597
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Speaker 6: like a one handed catch on a ball way behind

598
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Speaker 6: him and spun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

601
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Speaker 1: Just crazy. The contrast though, between the six divisional game,

602
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Speaker 1: where this was a fourteen and two Chargers team like

603
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Speaker 1: looking like, hey, we're ready to go, and then the

604
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Speaker 1: next year you had the seven Patriots, which were just

605
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Speaker 1: one of the all time. Like, it's just strange how

606
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Speaker 1: quickly the roles kind of reversed, and of course the

607
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Speaker 1: injuries played a big part for the Chargers.

608
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: Out from Wisconsin, says The headline of the Patriots win

609
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: is the Charge has become the first team to miss

610
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Speaker 2: the flight to Massachusetts.

611
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Speaker 6: Wow.

612
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

613
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Speaker 6: Wow.

614
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Speaker 1: Well that's so you're saying there's no chance. Well it

615
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: is a little chance, but I don't know. I don't

616
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: really have like an optimistic little I mean, I've had

617
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of optimism against the Giants, against the Colts,

618
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: and those are bad teams with backup quarterbacks. And this

619
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Speaker 1: is justin Herbert, and I think that's Patriots pass defense

620
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: is a little suspect and we don't know who their

621
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Speaker 1: quarterback is.

622
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Speaker 6: So, Mike, you like when I gave you the random

623
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 6: like red zone moments from earlier in the year, Please,

624
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 6: we're talking about the fourth down thing for Staley, and

625
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 6: I did I was looking when I did it. He

626
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Speaker 6: hasn't gone for the fourth downs anywhere near as often

627
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Speaker 6: as he normally does, only twenty all year, Like as

628
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Speaker 6: a point of comparison, opponents have gone twenty seven times

629
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Speaker 6: against the Chargers. But I think that Minnesota game earlier

630
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 6: in the year, they had the ball up four and

631
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Speaker 6: they had like a fourth and like inches from like

632
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Speaker 6: their own twenty five yard line. He went for it, Yeah,

633
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 6: and they didn't get it. And now they ended up

634
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 6: lucking out because.

635
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Speaker 1: They stopped it.

636
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 6: They stopped the Vikings, and I wonder if that one

637
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 6: was finally the one to lie. I can't do this anymore.

638
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 6: I just can't, like he just finally scared them straight,

639
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 6: you know.

640
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: Will writes in there's really not much to look forward

641
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: to this season, However, I'm excited to see the return

642
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: of Pat Patriot this week. It is a throwback game.

643
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: This would have been an all time uniform matchup. If

644
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: the Chargers were wearing their Navy or royal alternatives, it

645
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: would have brought me back to the happier Color Rush days.

646
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: Is there a rule about teams wearing alternative alternatives on

647
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: the same week.

648
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't think.

649
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 6: I don't know, and I we were talking about that

650
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 6: earlier in the week. I don't know if there's a

651
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 6: rule about, Like you know how USC and U c

652
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 6: l A they both wear their home uniforms when they play. Yeah, yeah,

653
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 6: Is there a rule that you can't do that in

654
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Speaker 6: the NFL?

655
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: I think it has to do with the colors. Frankly,

656
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Speaker 2: I think, like could there's an eighty eight thing for

657
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: people who are color blind. If they're the type of

658
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: colors that can be mixed up for a color blind person,

659
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: you can't do it.

660
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Speaker 1: Was it like a Tampa game. I remember a game

661
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Speaker 1: early in those color rushes where it was two teams

662
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Speaker 1: that like the colorblind. People were like, I have no idea,

663
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: I can't tell these teams, but it was like an all.

664
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Speaker 2: Red that reminds me I have about I have a theory,

665
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: and I know this is going down a whole different path.

666
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: But you brought up color Rush and the last time

667
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: Seattle played, they wore their neon green things. And I

668
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: have a theory that it is a disadvantage for Seattle

669
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Speaker 2: to wear those uniforms.

670
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Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is.

671
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: The way your mind, you know, in your eyesight, registers

672
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: things when you see it. So like you know, especially

673
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: if like a running back has has the ball, he's

674
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: probably he's taking in things through his eyesight and his

675
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: mind is making calculations, like probably thousands of calculations you know,

676
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: per second, like based on what he sees. But when

677
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: it's a bright color, it tricks your mind into thinking

678
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: whatever you're seeing is faster and closer than it actually is,

679
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: and your mind reacts quicker like a red car, like

680
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: a red car. And and I my theory is that

681
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: you know, for example, when a running back has the

682
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: ball and the Seattle's in their kneon green, you're actually

683
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: reacting a tick quicker because what you're seeing flashes faster

684
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: in front of you, so your reaction time speeds.

685
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Up just a little bit. Is that just all bright

686
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: colors or yeah? Bright bright, Yeah, bright color like that.

687
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just know the red car thing.

688
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, so red cars look faster.

689
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: Red cars get pulled over, right.

690
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

691
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 7: My dad's a big car guy, so he won't let

692
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 7: us buy red cars because of that.

693
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Speaker 2: So I think like the raiders have an advance when

694
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: they wear they're black and it's a night game especially,

695
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: that's an advantage, you know, because you react just that

696
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: tick slower than you would when this bright color is

697
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: in your field of vision.

698
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, to see what broken tackles are like the

699
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: theory I have working theory. Yeah, any other colors on

700
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah. No, Ever, it didn't have a It

701
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: didn't make sense to me. I don't know.

702
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: So now, as we always say, whatever the subject is

703
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: always somebody listening that has an expert.

704
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 8: On I looked forward to some of the experts for.

705
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Speaker 1: A highlighter company.

706
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: No, but it's like you know a bull that red cape,

707
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: you know, and you know the the movement and it

708
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 2: reacts to it. But I just you know it just

709
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: makes sense that when something comes into your field of vision,

710
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: you react, right. But if it if it's brighter, it

711
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 2: tricks your mind into thinking it's closer and faster than

712
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: it actually is.

713
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Speaker 1: Well, maybe this week next weekend, we'll see some camouflage

714
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: uniforms from Army Navy that will play into that. There

715
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: you get away from.

716
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 8: Maybe that's what neither one of those teams can score.

717
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: I can't see anything, No one can react. All right.

718
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: Eight five to five past five hundred is the sticking

719
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: hotline web radio at Patriots dot com.

720
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: It's the email address. My mouse over here.

721
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: Let's see what people have to say. Jason's in Connecticut.

722
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: What's up, Jason?

723
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Speaker 1: Jason?

724
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: I mean I really didn't make him wait that one.

725
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: No, you know, we started really twelve thirty. Eric's in

726
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Hey, Eric, Hey, Hey you guys doing good. Eric.

727
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 12: I've got two points here. I'll take it off the line.

728
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 12: I've seen Gerard Mayo's interview.

729
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: The other day.

730
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Speaker 13: Whether he was asked, you know, where he should be

731
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 13: judged off?

732
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Speaker 12: His body and work is not his title? Body of work?

733
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: What is it that you do?

734
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 14: Nobody knows?

735
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 12: And that's you know, that's my big ripe when you

736
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 12: those guys talk about bringing a Mayo into the folds

737
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 12: for next year. And then just a second observation, I

738
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 12: know Grant and I don't want to pile on Pop

739
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 12: Douglas because I think he's been the shining star of

740
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 12: this team. But you know, compared to the guys you

741
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 12: know that five ten and under from this past I

742
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 12: mean we got we may have the worst of the guys.

743
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 12: I mean you look at Jaden Reed, Josh Down, Tank Dell,

744
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 12: you look at these guys. We're just either obviously you know,

745
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 12: kind of better situations. You know, they're they're producing more.

746
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 12: And I know Evans, you know, showed that screenshot of

747
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 12: you know this past week where the Mario was streaking

748
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 12: down the fields when that.

749
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: Kind of missed him.

750
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Speaker 12: But it's just I feel like, you know.

751
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 13: The ability, just the talent.

752
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 12: I mean again, even if you want to get those

753
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 12: that five nine, that five preplot guy, we got the

754
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 12: worst of the bunch, and there's opportunities to grab these

755
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 12: guys when we had the opportunities.

756
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 14: And I'll take it off the line.

757
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 6: Thanks, thanks Eric.

758
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 7: I mean I would just say to uh girod Mayo

759
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 7: because I feel like I have to.

760
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 6: I don't know.

761
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 7: I don't feel like I have to defend Mayo, but

762
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 7: I feel like Mayo gets that a lot right of

763
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 7: what is it that you exactly that you do around here?

764
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 7: And I would just say that I think he does

765
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 7: a lot with the defense more.

766
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 6: Than maybe we How do you know that?

767
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 7: Just just to hunt just you know, yeah, I think

768
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 7: I think he does a ton with the defense, a

769
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 7: ton game plan, presenting, coaching in practice, you know, implementing

770
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 7: the game plan, things like that.

771
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: And I have no idea the answer.

772
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: But if you would say responsibility to defense, take Bill

773
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: Belichick out of the picture. Who has more responsibility of

774
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: the product that you see on Sunday? Steve or Girod.

775
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 7: Honestly, I really do think it's kind of a fifty

776
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 7: to fifty split.

777
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 6: I really do. I think that Steve.

778
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 7: You know, Steve calls the plays so I think a

779
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 7: lot of the install and the game plan every single

780
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 7: week is based off of playsheet that Steve.

781
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 6: Comes up with.

782
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 7: You're not gonna have somebody else build the play sheet

783
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 7: and then hand it to Steve on Sundays and have

784
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 7: him call the defense. That wouldn't make any sense. But

785
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 7: I think what Gerard is really good at is presenting

786
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 7: and implementing the game plan and getting through to players

787
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 7: about what the game plan is, and actually, you know,

788
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 7: coaching and teaching things, which I think Steve is a

789
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 7: little bit lesser than, and Steve is more of kind

790
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 7: of like so the chef.

791
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: If each of them went off to become a defensive coordinator,

792
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: who would have the most success.

793
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 7: I think Girod's a better leader, which is why I

794
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 7: think that he's a better.

795
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: Head coaching Canada, more cachet.

796
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 7: But I think Steve might be the better like X's

797
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 7: and O's mind, just because that's what his mind has

798
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 7: always been programmed to do. But in general I think

799
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 7: that Gerard is Gerard is more capable. I think of

800
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 7: like leading a room and you know, addressing a room

801
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 7: and leading a room and getting through to guys and

802
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 7: things like that.

803
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it would seem obvious, you know. The one

804
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: thing I would say about Gerard is, you know, before

805
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: he became a coach, he was a player, and everybody

806
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: knows his reputation there. He was like little Bill, that's

807
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: what they called him. He was like a film junkie.

808
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: He was really into the x's and o's you know,

809
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: but nobody really knows like who does what? And I know,

810
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, titles aren't important and all that stuff, and

811
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: this is the way Bill has already done it. But

812
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a disservice to both of them.

813
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: Steve N.

814
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: Gerrod that people really don't know who does what. You know, now,

815
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 2: I say that, but I'm sure like if another team

816
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: was interested in either one of them, it's easy for

817
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: them to sit down and explain what they did.

818
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: But it's it's, you know, and I'm sure the important

819
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: people here know what they're doing, yeah, you know, the

820
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: higher ups.

821
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: The crafts, you mean, yeah, but it's it's weird because

822
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: like you really don't.

823
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: Know, you know, Yeah, I don't know. I would say

824
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: on the Pop Douglas thing, it's it's hard. I mean,

825
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: I get what he's saying on one hand, but on

826
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: the other hand, I looked at some of those guys,

827
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: and I mean, other than maybe he's a Flowers, you know,

828
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, they look in the same genre to me,

829
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: of and it's just hard to split it because you know,

830
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: a guy likes a Flowers, they he has other options there.

831
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he had Mark Andrews. He has OBJ. I mean,

832
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: pop Tug is kind of the only thing they have

833
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: right now. So it's a rookie slot receiver who who

834
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: I'll admit, is small and I worry about long term

835
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: holding up being a consistent seventeen game contributor for the team.

836
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: But for six round pick, I'm pretty happy with.

837
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

838
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 8: I think it's different than.

839
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 6: You know, I say, the Taekwon Thornton, you know, criticism,

840
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 6: because those guys are all taking it like the Mario

841
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 6: Douglas should be a notch below Josh Downs in Tank

842
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 6: Dell and read from Green Bay. He was taken well after.

843
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 6: I think all of them.

844
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 7: Guys all right, Josh Downs might have been No, I

845
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 7: think they're all day too, they too.

846
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, so yeah, I mean you can make it up. Mean,

847
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 6: I know that's what Eric was was saying, like, you know,

848
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 6: maybe they should have taken one of those guys. And

849
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 6: I think, and I know you two in particular really

850
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 6: like Josh like so like it's not even a second guest.

851
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 6: I agree with what Eric is talking about with with

852
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 6: the call. I just I don't know, I don't necessary

853
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 6: and I don't think he was saying this. I wouldn't

854
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 6: necessarily say, well, I'm disappointed in what they got.

855
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: I do.

856
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 6: I guess I've been sort of the least enthusias asked

857
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 6: about Douglas, you know, on the show, for a lot

858
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 6: of the reasons that you just said, Mike. But I

859
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 6: mean he's been I think he's been really consistent for

860
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 6: them when he's played. I worry about what else is there?

861
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 6: You know, what else can he do other than catch

862
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 6: the quick screens and make a guy miss? Yeah?

863
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think with like Tank Dell, Tank Dal is

864
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 7: a really good player, but the guy throwing him the

865
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 7: ball is.

866
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh, he kind of I thought Eric kind of

867
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 6: glossed over because I know that the situations are better kind, you.

868
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, Mark Jackson, you can't.

869
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 6: You can't get any worse of a situation. He's in

870
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 6: the worst offense in football, the second worst statistically behind

871
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 6: the Giants.

872
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I actually am maybe a little bit less

873
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 7: concerned about durability with him and more concerned with the

874
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 7: fact that he's made a lot of mistakes. Running routes

875
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 7: a lot of mistakes, and at some point you become

876
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 7: a repeat offender. And I've pointed the finger at Troy

877
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 7: Brown for all of it, because he's a young player.

878
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 7: He's a rookie, Like, somebody's got to cut right, you know,

879
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 7: someone's got to coach him up on these things.

880
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 6: I would also say he had an issue with ball

881
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 6: security in college and he's put the ball on the

882
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 6: ground a lot.

883
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, as a problem, well, but on punts especially.

884
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

885
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 2: Could part of it though be You know, we talked

886
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: about how sophisticated the Patriots offense may or may not

887
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: be yesterday, and some of that I know when Brady

888
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: was here, a lot of it was on the receiver

889
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: to make a decision based on what the coverage was.

890
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: Are they forcing me inside outside? And you know they

891
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: could make that decision, and Brady was smart enough to

892
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: be on the same.

893
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: Page with guys.

894
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: Could it be you know that that part of the

895
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: offense is still intact and Pop Douglas just doesn't make

896
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: good decisions.

897
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, rather than running the wrong route.

898
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: No.

899
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's That's kind of where I'm at with it,

900
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 7: and I to me, it's less about blaming Pop Douglas

901
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 7: for making these mistakes and more about, hey, coaches, this

902
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 7: is your most dynamic receiver. Figure out a way to

903
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 7: get them open, Like you know, like figure out a

904
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 7: way that he can run routes the right way so

905
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 7: and get open because clearly he has separation talent, Like

906
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 7: that's not the issue is running, you know, in terms

907
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 7: of burst and all that kind of stuff. So I

908
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 7: put it on Troy Brown and Bill O'Brien to say,

909
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 7: all right, well, maybe the juke routes that Edelman and

910
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 7: Welker and those guys used to run, maybe that's not

911
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 7: your bread and butter. But what what can we do

912
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 7: on a locked route where there isn't as much optionality

913
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 7: to it to get to allow you to just do

914
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 7: your thing. Because clearly he's their best player right now.

915
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 7: And I feel like a lot of these conversions that

916
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 7: we see down the field. He had one on on

917
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 7: Sunday where you know, he opened inside and Mac expected

918
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 7: him to open outside and the ball sailed out of bounds,

919
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 7: and it's like those are the types of plays that

920
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 7: all right, maybe he's not ready for those types of routes.

921
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 7: So let's find routes that he is ready to run,

922
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 7: because clearly he can get open.

923
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: But I like that they're running them and that they're

924
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: using him, And I mean, I also wonder what he's

925
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: would look like if they had some other pieces that

926
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: you know, would just knock him down a little bit,

927
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: and there's other speed for them to deal with, and

928
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he gets lost in the mix.

929
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 6: I think ideally he's one of those guys that's sort

930
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 6: of oh yeah, and they have him too, you know,

931
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: the way like Isaiah McKenzie came in here for Buffalo

932
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago and caught a bunch of passes.

933
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a good you know, a good

934
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 6: thing that he's basically your leading receiver.

935
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 8: No, you know, but but if he had, you know.

936
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 6: If you had really good receivers and then he's coming

937
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 6: in every once in a while and making a catch

938
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 6: or to and making a guy miss, then that there's

939
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 6: there's a lot of value that did you guys happen

940
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 6: to see? By the way, the Tank Dell thing with C. J. Stroud,

941
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 6: Evidently when they drafted Stroud, uh, you know, he came

942
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 6: into the facility and then he told him draft Tank Dell.

943
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: Really so what no.

944
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 6: What struck me was the guy was was a Texan

945
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 6: for less than twenty four hours, and they took his advice.

946
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 6: Tom Brady couldn't get his advice taken on anything for

947
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 6: twenty plus years.

948
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 7: What struck me more was that c J. Strouden knew

949
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 7: who Tank Dell was, Like tank Dell is went to Houston,

950
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 7: played a small Yeah, Like I was shocked at c J.

951
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 7: Stroud even knew who Tank Dell was. Like the big

952
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 7: game for you know, the big week for Tank Dell

953
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 7: was down at the Senior Bowl. Se tank Dell was

954
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 7: uncoverable in the Senior Bowl and that really put him

955
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 7: on the next sort of tier of receivers in the

956
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 7: draft last year. But he I have no idea how

957
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 7: c J. Stroud he would even know that, like that,

958
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 7: that guy is a dude.

959
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 6: Like yeah, I mean, yeah, they might have been near

960
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 6: each other with those kids. They all know each other now,

961
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 6: like they go to all these camps and yeah, maybe.

962
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 7: They trained with the same guy for the tomboy.

963
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: I want to go.

964
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: I want to go back to the Pop Douglas conversation

965
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: we were just having. And you know what, it'd be

966
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: an interesting exercise for you take a guy like Pop Douglas,

967
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: a young guy, put him in a room, and then

968
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: take Matt Jones and put him in another room. Don't

969
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 2: you know, they can't talk, they can't see each other,

970
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: they can't hear each other. You show the same play

971
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: to each guy, So Pop Douglas arts and this route

972
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 2: at the top of his route. You stop the film

973
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: and you say, Okay, what are you seeing?

974
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: What are you going to do?

975
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: And you do the same thing with Mac, same play,

976
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: stop it at the same place, Mac, what are you seeing?

977
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: What should what do you think Pop's gonna do?

978
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 10: It?

979
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: Kind of like bit like the Newly See how they

980
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: line up, you know, And you do that again and again,

981
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: and then you do the same thing with Edelman and

982
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: Brady and you see that you see the difference.

983
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 7: I think a big, a big difference too is I

984
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 7: remember asking Brady this towards the end of when Edelman

985
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 7: came back from the suspension, and I asked him, like,

986
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 7: what what about Edelman is make you love throwing to him?

987
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 7: Like why do you love throwing him so much? And

988
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 7: he said that he knows his body language, like he

989
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 7: knew like when Edelman was going to come out of

990
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 7: the break and like when he was gathering to make

991
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 7: a cut, and how his sort of body mechanics worked.

992
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 7: Because they just threw to each other so many dimes

993
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 7: in the off season, the regulars, whatever, and so he

994
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 7: said that he just had this like ability to read

995
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 7: Edelman's body mechanics and then anticipate where he was gonna

996
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 7: go based off of the way his footwork or whatever

997
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 7: is moving and those things on these types of routes

998
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 7: that Pop Douglas is running in this offense or that

999
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 7: doesn't just come overnight like that came from hours and

1000
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 7: hours and hours of repetition between those two guys.

1001
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeaven. Then it took to Edelman until twenty thirteen to

1002
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: really be that guy, you know.

1003
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: Yeh, all right, as you can see, someone's food is here.

1004
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,880
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1005
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,760
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Speaker 3: What's going on, everybody, Let's take a listen to what

1030
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick had to say at his press conference this

1031
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: morning with the media.

1032
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 9: All right, top of the morning, how's it going good?

1033
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 9: Good here? Yeah? All right, so I got rid up

1034
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 9: to go on San Diego.

1035
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 16: Well, sorry, Chargers probably make that mistake a few times

1036
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 16: this week. Uh, but yeah, you know it's a pretty

1037
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 16: uh you know, pretty talented football team. Have been a

1038
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 16: lot of close games, you know, really competitive with everybody,

1039
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 16: you know, they have quite a few explosive players that

1040
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 16: we got to deal with here. You know, in the

1041
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 16: kicking game, you know, Davis has you know, done a

1042
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 16: real good job for him.

1043
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 14: Uh.

1044
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 16: In a return game, he's been very explosive and I

1045
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 16: had the bigger turn against the Jets. But you know

1046
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 16: they use him on offense too. He's a he's a

1047
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 16: hard guy to handle. And Dickers you know, obviously kicked

1048
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 16: very very well, so strong on special teams. You know, offensively, Herbert,

1049
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 16: you know, can do everything you need a quarterback to do,

1050
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 16: very athletic, make all the throws. Alan as good as

1051
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 16: he's been, which has been great. It's because he's having

1052
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 16: the best year, which is pretty scary. You know, he's

1053
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 16: a very difficult player to to cover, very strong, great hands, instincts,

1054
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 16: hard guy to tackle. Obviously, Herbert's got a lot of

1055
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 16: confidence in a Meckler, you know, another explosive player.

1056
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

1057
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 16: And we've got a good, you know, a group of

1058
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 16: skilled guys with Ever and Johnson.

1059
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 9: So forth, so.

1060
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 16: Well balanced offense that you know has been productive. And

1061
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 16: then you know, defensively, they got several guys up front,

1062
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 16: even with Bose out with Mac and uh Touley, and

1063
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 16: you know, guys like that that are really disruptive, can

1064
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 16: make game changing plays with strift sacks, and they hit

1065
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 16: the quarterback a lot in passing situations, third and fourth

1066
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 16: down particular two minutes. You know, they when they when

1067
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 16: they need to rush, they can, you know they can rush.

1068
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 16: So James obviously, you know one of the top players

1069
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 16: in the league. You know Ian Mack or two guys

1070
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 16: that can really you know, ruin the game, have ruined

1071
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 16: plenty of games and so got to do a good job,

1072
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 16: good job on them. You know, the new offense or

1073
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 16: a little bit of a new offense, I guess, you

1074
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 16: know with coach Moore, you know, Herbert's had a lot

1075
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 16: of production with it. Spread the ball around a lot

1076
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 16: besides Alan, but you know Allen obviously is the go

1077
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 16: to guy. But after that, you know, get a lot

1078
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 16: of touches to to the other receivers, tight ends the backs,

1079
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 16: uh and and they create some explosive plays. And you know,

1080
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 16: Herbert creates some plays on his own win or really

1081
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 16: isn't anything there.

1082
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 9: You know, he pulls something out with a scramble or

1083
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 9: an extended play or.

1084
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 16: You know, throwing to into tight coverage that that you know,

1085
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 16: there an't too many guys can.

1086
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 9: Get in there, but you know he can. So good

1087
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 9: opportunity for us this week.

1088
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 16: And you know the team we kind of know a

1089
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 16: little bit about, but you know, need to refamiliarize ourselves

1090
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 16: with here in the next few days.

1091
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 10: With Chad ratherin end the stickers and he's on the rosa, tend.

1092
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 13: To me bring in another ticker.

1093
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 16: Just we work some guys out. We usually do that

1094
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 16: anyway this time of year. So look, the guys that

1095
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 16: are here need to be ready to go. That's that's

1096
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 16: what everybody's job is.

1097
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: Thought. Maybe adding a kicker there just at the second one.

1098
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 9: We're gonna fill those spots up. Today.

1099
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 10: Bill had he envision the quarterback depth chart shake out

1100
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 10: this week.

1101
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm not gonna make any announcements on our lineup

1102
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 16: at any position then, So it doesn't matter what the

1103
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 16: position is. We're not See how practice goes and see

1104
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 16: if everybody's ready to go. Hope everybody's ready to go,

1105
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 16: see what the injury situation is, and we'll go through

1106
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 16: we thinks best on Sunday.

1107
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 10: So even with the way things went last week against

1108
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 10: the Giants, do the same thing again this week.

1109
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I didn't say that. I said I'm not going

1110
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 9: to announce anything.

1111
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 10: What about the team?

1112
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I think again everybody's everybody's got their own

1113
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 16: their own job to do, and hopefully that's what.

1114
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 9: They're focused on, not what everybody else is doing. That's

1115
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 9: the way.

1116
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 16: All I need to do is focus on what our

1117
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 16: job is, do the best we can add it, and

1118
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 16: don't worry about what everybody.

1119
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 9: Else is doing. That would that would help all of us.

1120
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 6: Don't care like.

1121
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 16: The mac Jones after, especially as Dallas and Orleans is

1122
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 16: the Raiders week, he said, yeah, we're not making any changes.

1123
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 8: What makes you take a different.

1124
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 10: Approach the last couple of weeks and being asked about

1125
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 10: and start awards back?

1126
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: Uh?

1127
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 16: Yeah, because that's we'll see how it goes. I'm not

1128
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 16: prepared to make any announcement, so I'm not gonna do that.

1129
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 7: How do you feel, like mac Jones?

1130
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 9: Well, we don't.

1131
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 16: We haven't won enough games, so I don't think anybody's

1132
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 16: performed well enough.

1133
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 9: We all need to do a better job.

1134
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 6: Do you personally have a plan for quarterback this Sunday

1135
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 6: or we'll practice determine that this week.

1136
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 9: We'll see how it goes.

1137
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 17: Bailey's actually have to show you to earn a start.

1138
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 16: Look, every player, whatever opportunities they have, need to do

1139
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 16: the best with them that they can practice games, even

1140
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 16: in meetings and other preparation opportunities. So that's what a

1141
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 16: player can do, be prepared to the best he can,

1142
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 16: and that's what each guy will have an opportunity to

1143
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 16: do that somewhere along the line. You know, with the

1144
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 16: course of a long season, a lot of times it's

1145
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 16: multiple times in a day. Sometimes for some players the

1146
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 16: opportunities are a little bit different. But when those opportunities come,

1147
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 16: that's what players need to do, and that's what they've

1148
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 16: been told and they know understand that, and I think

1149
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 16: they're doing the best they can.

1150
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 9: So see, it goes.

1151
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 17: It's something you're seeing mechanically. Is it something emotionally that

1152
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 17: can be fixed? What's the best way to handle them?

1153
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 16: Again, I think you know, we've talked to all the

1154
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 16: players about things they need to do. You know, we've

1155
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 16: been doing that all year. It took more time to

1156
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 16: do that in a bye week. You know, each players

1157
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 16: certain things that you know, we feel like they can

1158
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 16: focus on to improve and they're working on those.

1159
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 17: But a player like Mac is he seeking help to

1160
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 17: sort of get better in any specific way.

1161
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 16: Every player is trying to improve. Absolutely every player on

1162
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 16: our team's trying to improve. I don't I won't see

1163
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 16: that from anybody. They're they're all trying to improve. What

1164
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 16: can I do better? Work on it?

1165
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 9: Whether it's practice.

1166
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 16: Meetings, fundamentalsmmunication like whatever it is, and so we'll keep

1167
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 16: doing that.

1168
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 10: What does it mean to have army maybe in the

1169
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 10: building as the fact that they're playing up here this year?

1170
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 16: I mean, look, obviously it's a huge game. I'm heavily

1171
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 16: invested in the Naval Academy. But let's deal with that

1172
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 16: next week. Hock to start, well, we didn't have total

1173
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 16: control of that. He could have been claimed by another team.

1174
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 16: What was it the so once he wasn't claimed by

1175
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 16: another team, then we reopened the discussions.

1176
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 9: But we didn't control that.

1177
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 16: Could you envision him getting a few more snaps with

1178
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 16: the regular All the players that are on the practice

1179
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 16: squad or unless they've used all their practice squad elevations

1180
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 16: are eligible to be practice squad elevated. Other players could

1181
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 16: be signed to the roster. I could do with Connor

1182
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 16: last week, it was out of elevations. So if they're

1183
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 16: on the practice squad, they're eligible and are preparing and

1184
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,959
Speaker 16: are should be ready to play and potentially are ready

1185
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 16: to play.

1186
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 9: Does that includes everybody?

1187
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 10: The league said last week we're coming out that he

1188
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 10: hasn't taken regular quarterback reps two six.

1189
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 6: Changed it back to wide receiver just enough.

1190
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 9: To do move him back anywhere.

1191
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 16: He's been playing wide receiver all year, and he's played

1192
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 16: he's also played in a quarterback.

1193
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 10: Well, why did you haven't saw practicing a quarterback?

1194
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 16: Well, there are other players that are practicing a quarterback

1195
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 16: as well. Okay, he's not the only guy out there.

1196
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 16: And then it depends a little bit on the offense

1197
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 16: that we're seeing. So if we're seeing offenses that run

1198
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 16: plays that he's very good at running teams like Philadelphia

1199
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 16: the first Miami game, it's you know, then he gets

1200
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 16: I mean, they're practice squad reps, but there are also

1201
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 16: reps on things that he does. So he's kind of

1202
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 16: a unique player that things aren't straight lined with him.

1203
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 16: He's different than probably every other player we have on

1204
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 16: the team, So he's handled a little bit differently.

1205
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 10: Phil We've seen you bench and Demoe players for performance

1206
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 10: all the time, fumble, not getting your feet and bounds,

1207
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 10: what have you? Mat Jonson, Now we've benched four times

1208
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 10: for performance, but he keeps getting the opportunity and keeps

1209
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 10: getting a starting job at what makes him different from

1210
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 10: everyone else.

1211
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 9: On the team.

1212
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, look, every situation is different, So I mean,

1213
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 16: I don't really know exactly what you're referring to, but

1214
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 16: it doesn't really matter, Like we're gonna do what we

1215
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 16: feel the best for the team based on the individual situation.

1216
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 17: Bill players make mistakes, obviously, but when a kicker makes

1217
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 17: a mistake, I mean obviously chadwils said, you know, everything

1218
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 17: was good with his kick, he just missed it.

1219
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: He handled kickers a.

1220
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: Little bit differently in terms of keeping the confidence up

1221
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: and getting to the position where they're confident with every kick.

1222
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 6: Think go up here, you know to.

1223
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 16: Make Yeah, I look, confidence is something that comes internally

1224
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 16: and it comes when you have success. So you can

1225
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 16: talk about it all you want, and there's maybe some

1226
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 16: merit to that, but in the end, you get confidence

1227
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 16: when you do something successfully and then you're confident that

1228
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 16: you can repeat that success. So well, that's in games,

1229
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 16: is in practice. There are ways to try to you know,

1230
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 16: construct that. But I mean, in the end, the execution

1231
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 16: is the only way you have any genuine confidence and

1232
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 16: give a fake confidence. But genuine confidence comes from real

1233
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 16: performance under pressure. That's true of every position.

1234
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,

1235
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1236
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 18: everybody could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx. Where

1237
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 18: now it's next for residential delivery only.

1238
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 6: And now great moments in.

1239
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: History.

1240
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: If you stand up on the third level of State,

1241
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 2: look at on the parking lot now and remember what

1242
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: that parking lot to look at it was like a

1243
00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: big flea market park.

1244
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 8: To bring morell into to make sure we were all safe.

1245
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 19: Yeah, and bring on the marine like just how like

1246
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 19: the cement structures of like walking out into the lower

1247
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 19: level where like you'd kind of come down the ramp

1248
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 19: but you'd still be in like this like turret almost

1249
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 19: like you know, and then you'd come up and oh,

1250
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 19: here's the stadium.

1251
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 8: There's a field like right here, you.

1252
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 19: Know, but I remember it raining there and it would

1253
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 19: just be like a river coming through.

1254
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 8: Those things, like you know, you couldn't even get to it.

1255
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 6: Would come out of the pipe on the side right down.

1256
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: The stairs and even inside you know, they had that

1257
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: one building in the end zone that was the build off.

1258
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: Everything was there in the locker.

1259
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 2: Room and everything, and the backstairs led down to the

1260
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 2: locker room and the super The brmell of urine would

1261
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: just waved up into the way.

1262
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 8: It would wave.

1263
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: Waft waft loft. It was just awful.

1264
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 4: That's another great moment from.

1265
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: All right.

1266
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,960
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1267
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,880
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1270
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: I love that stadium. That's a good story whenever it

1271
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: comes up. I just I have such fond memories of

1272
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: that terrible place.

1273
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many like rooms that would double

1274
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: as different things, Like they had the VI Club VIP

1275
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: Club that on game day was sort of like the club.

1276
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 8: It was like a suite.

1277
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: Then during the week it's where the players ate their lunch.

1278
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: You know, we would work in there like when no

1279
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 2: one else was there, and when people came in, we'd

1280
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: pack up and go into a coat room, and I'm

1281
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: not kidding literal coat room. It was just you know,

1282
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: it was it was fifth rate, It wasn't even third rate.

1283
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: What was it like for you when you first started

1284
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: working there, and that you're.

1285
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: Like guys that were used at When I first started

1286
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: working here in ninety five, I worked in Boston. The

1287
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: crafts had one floor of one Boston place, and so

1288
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 2: I worked there for a few years.

1289
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 6: Then you know, they just and he had that stuff

1290
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 6: that he's talking about in that stadium.

1291
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: But some of the people that worked for me worked here,

1292
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: you know, because they had to be around the team

1293
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: every day, and they they had all the equipment in.

1294
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: A code closet.

1295
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: And then one time there was an event and we

1296
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: actually were taking coats for people while we were working

1297
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: and giving them their ticket.

1298
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: That was before me, and it was the newspaper your

1299
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: primarily like well focused.

1300
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 2: It was started, but I started in January ninety five,

1301
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: But in March of ninety five we started the website

1302
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: and that changed everything. We were the first pro team

1303
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: with a website. And you know, obviously it's content, whether

1304
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: it's newspapers. So I ended up doing.

1305
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 8: Both, Mike, if you can believe it, when but.

1306
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: The paper was dominant. You know, his website was you

1307
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: know Nason.

1308
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 6: That at that time the paper was far and away

1309
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 6: the biggest priority. But just to show you like the

1310
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 6: difference is when when the website started, when I started

1311
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 6: in ninety nine, Fred used to say, Okay, we need

1312
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 6: to make sure that we have an update on the website,

1313
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 6: one update every day. Something Fred like Fred would say, like,

1314
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 6: you know, give him a reason to come around the stadium.

1315
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 6: You know, like there's like they painted the weight room something.

1316
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 6: It could be something silly, you know, but we want

1317
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 6: to update the way. Can you imagine going a day

1318
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 6: without like fifteen things going on the website.

1319
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like just put something on there to

1320
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: you know, reward somebody for coming today, you know, something

1321
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: different that than yesterday. And you know, we had one

1322
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: person out Originally the person who's doing the update was

1323
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: someone from PR and you know I finally said to him,

1324
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: I said, listen, you're either going to go stand with

1325
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: a clipboard for PR. Are you going to do this website?

1326
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: You got to choose, and the person chose Anthony mulready.

1327
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: He chose PR, and then we hired somebody to do

1328
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: the updates for the website.

1329
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds such like a side project now, like

1330
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, we have to do the website, you know,

1331
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: just get that done too. But well I was, I

1332
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: was a subscriber for season or two to to PF PFW.

1333
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: Well everybody was at one point, you know. I just

1334
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: wish I saved them.

1335
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was.

1336
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 6: And then when I when I started, it was down

1337
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 6: in the old the Foxborough Entertainment Complex was the old racetrack. Yeah,

1338
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 6: the FEC that it'd be called the FACT and the

1339
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 6: revs were down there, our offices around. That's where I

1340
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 6: met with Freddy when fred interviewed me, and we had

1341
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 6: like a whole little area. It was a little kitchen

1342
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 6: and stuff and it was fine. It was good. And

1343
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 6: then there was like a lot a lot of space

1344
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 6: that was just empty. You know, they had a lot

1345
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 6: of storage and stuff. So we we'd have some great

1346
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 6: like great football games.

1347
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: Already building here when you started.

1348
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they had broken ground.

1349
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't think they had when I first.

1350
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: I just I remember sitting in the old stadium and

1351
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: looking out at the you know, the old remnants of

1352
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: the racetrack and being like, what the hell was that. Yeah, no,

1353
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: that was trace Track.

1354
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: We worked there and then when they finally demolished that

1355
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: because they needed to start, we moved down the street.

1356
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: There was a little office park down.

1357
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 8: Route one that was a good place to work too.

1358
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was great because we were by ourselves,

1359
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: you know, no one was overseeing us. So the pro shop,

1360
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: you know, we had just started e commerce too back then,

1361
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: and they had their little operation back there and making

1362
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: hot dogs on a George Foreman.

1363
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 6: And oh we did Red Sox opening day one year.

1364
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 6: We had like a little tailgate inside.

1365
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1366
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: We would play with football inside the buildings.

1367
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: Stories about basketball was big.

1368
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: Michelle Muse would be laying out the paper and the

1369
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: ball would like land on her keyboard and she would be.

1370
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 6: She wouldn't even she wouldn't even break stride to just

1371
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 6: take the ball and throw it over her head.

1372
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: A bunch of guys.

1373
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, but we're always did I wrong.

1374
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: There was a lot of downtime while we waited for

1375
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: photos to come back from the lab and all that.

1376
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,479
Speaker 2: So while that was happening, we'd you know, be trying

1377
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: to stay awake.

1378
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 6: And we mentioned that Silverman used to take the photo

1379
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 6: like take his negatives and whatever. Take the film and

1380
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 6: go like this, Well they come back with print.

1381
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: Well, he'd come back with prints, and then the Prince

1382
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 2: would go to Worcester to ran Whitney because they had

1383
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: a drum scanner and they would scan them all in

1384
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: and then we would use them. But it was like

1385
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: an eight hour process after the game.

1386
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 6: Right, and then finally when we got into like the

1387
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 6: digital age, that all streamlined like significantly.

1388
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: It became a hyper production.

1389
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 6: And then you know, it's funny because once that happened,

1390
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 6: it was great for production and everything. But then that

1391
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 6: was kind of the the early death noll for newspapers

1392
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 6: for princes because you didn't need it anymore. Yeah, well

1393
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 6: that's where we started putting everything on the webs.

1394
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,959
Speaker 1: This is weird that you guys were, you know here

1395
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: before it all kind of went crazy in terms of

1396
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: good and you know, but we also coincided with the

1397
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: rise of the internet, the rise of social media. I mean,

1398
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: like just how different covering sports is just ins And.

1399
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: It was also different because there were hard deadlines. You know,

1400
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: we had a slot at the printer to print the

1401
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: newspaper am on Monday morning, no matter what matter, if

1402
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: it was a night game. You know, it had to

1403
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: be there at ten am. And I remember one game,

1404
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: our other editor, Brian Morey was out for some reason

1405
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: or something. Paul had to do like everything himself.

1406
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 8: I don't think he was out.

1407
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: He was writing a book, and uh, you know, I

1408
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: was as as the night progressed, like a different article

1409
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: of clothing would come off by the end of the night,

1410
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: is under shirt. I swear to god, he's sweating.

1411
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: Just trying to get everything done.

1412
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 8: It was like Brian exaggerates a lot of things about me.

1413
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 8: He is not exaggerating.

1414
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you must have never let him forget that one

1415
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: he was working on a book I think that week.

1416
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then and then to top it all off,

1417
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 6: like and this was a pretty cool thing. Like I'd

1418
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 6: make fun of them all the time, but like that

1419
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 6: the first Patriots book Patriots United, because we all know

1420
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 6: I wrote the second one in about twenty minutes and

1421
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 6: I didn't miss any time.

1422
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 8: I'm done on the paper.

1423
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 6: But when when Brian did that, like we had like

1424
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 6: a launch party at the pro shop and like we

1425
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 6: did it up big with like you know, pr and stuff,

1426
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 6: and like you know, at the time, the last thing

1427
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 6: I wanted to hear about was anything related to this

1428
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 6: for cocked a book, right, So Brian's like, i'd really

1429
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 6: you know, i'd really like it if you, if you,

1430
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 6: if you came, you know, like I want to. I

1431
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 6: was like, so I came and I'm taking pictures and stuff,

1432
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 6: and I was like, I had nothing to write it

1433
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 6: and I just made and it was It wasn't just

1434
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 6: like an issue. It was like the Draft Preview, which

1435
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 6: is one of our tent pole issues. You know, we

1436
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 6: had thirty issues every year. Draft Preview and Draft Review

1437
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 6: were as big as any of them, and that was

1438
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 6: one of the ones that he missed. Yeah, and I

1439
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 6: was like, yeah, yeah, I'll go to your little party

1440
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 6: with Dures you know, well the appealing grapes for you

1441
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 6: like the books. But Fred is so right, Like I

1442
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 6: was just like, you know, sweatshirt comes off because the

1443
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 6: hat like tilted to the side. I'm sweating and just

1444
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 6: writing draft like we're not going to be ready, Fred,

1445
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 6: We're not going.

1446
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: To be read.

1447
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 6: Don't worry about it.

1448
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 8: It's probably like we're not going to be done.

1449
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: You're probably writing about Deon Branch and like pulling all

1450
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: that from that, right.

1451
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 6: I know. I was frazzles, and I like to to

1452
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 6: like I'm pretty emotional and opinionated, but I like to

1453
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 6: think I'm pretty cool under pressure.

1454
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 8: But I was not cool under pressure that week.

1455
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: But what's what's.

1456
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: The going back to that Walpole Park place? What was

1457
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 2: the biggest thing you remember that happened there?

1458
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 6: The biggest thing?

1459
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have mine, and.

1460
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 2: I wonder if yours is the same as some stories

1461
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: like the event that happened there that you're like, oh,

1462
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: that that's what you always remember.

1463
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 6: Huh, I don't know.

1464
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: Nine to eleven.

1465
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 8: Oh, oh okay.

1466
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 6: I was thinking, no, I was taking off his h

1467
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 6: but absolutely, Fred Fred, Yeah, you went serious on me.

1468
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 6: Like I was thinking when Rick did put that in

1469
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 6: Sync sign on the back of my car.

1470
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: That was good. That was a good story.

1471
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 6: So in Sync is playing at the Old Stadium and like,

1472
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 6: my wife is going, she's taking my nieces and stuff.

1473
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 6: The webmaster, who uh Rick Rick Eames. He took this

1474
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 6: piece of cardboard and he somehow like bought this wire

1475
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 6: and it's like honk if you love in Sync, But

1476
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 6: he kept it.

1477
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: He rigged it up in such a way that Paul

1478
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't see it when he got in his car. But

1479
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: once he started driving.

1480
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 8: It down, so driving.

1481
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 6: Everyone and I'm meeting bet at like Papa Gino's and

1482
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 6: and like everybody's beeping and.

1483
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 8: I'm like what. I'm like, I'm driving like ten.

1484
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: Miles a man, exactly. You got that right.

1485
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 8: I looked at it.

1486
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, that's that's just too perfect. Everybody,

1487
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 6: every single person in the building knew about it, and

1488
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 6: they all were what And they couldn't wait for me

1489
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 6: to get back because I was going down to meet

1490
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 6: Bath and my nieces and I was coming back and

1491
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 6: they were like, I back, go and I get out

1492
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 6: of it.

1493
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, son of a gotcha that's funny.

1494
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 6: Or or Shane playing Nerve Hoop and used to get

1495
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 6: mad at us because you always were afraid that we're

1496
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 6: gonna hurt Shane.

1497
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had serebal Pauls. You know, it would get physical, and.

1498
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 8: I was like, you know, you gotta be I'm just

1499
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 8: I'm just worried about ship.

1500
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: That was heady times, heady times times back before the dynasty.

1501
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess. And also like people like when I uh,

1502
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 6: you get asked a lot of questions like what made

1503
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 6: you stay like this is like what made you stay there.

1504
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 8: This, Yeah, this is what made.

1505
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: You stay Remember when Brian Moorean Dave Crissoli had to

1506
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: sprint the race. Oh yeah, we did it on this

1507
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: is before this before side felt, right, like we had

1508
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: the race before side felt.

1509
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 6: So they used to have like, uh, we used to

1510
01:06:55,600 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 6: have this little basketball competition and uh Cauzoli was the

1511
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 6: the commissioner and Brian used to not play by the

1512
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 6: rules and he used to just do his own thing.

1513
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 6: So he broke off and he created his own, his

1514
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 6: own league off his studs. So he did it on

1515
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 6: his own and they got there. They were getting really

1516
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 6: competitive and it was mostly tongue in cheek, but it

1517
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 6: was just a hint of seriousness. Yeah, and they were

1518
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 6: betting over who could win in a forty yard dash.

1519
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 6: So we got this all together and we get you know,

1520
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 6: Dave had his old camera with the what the XL.

1521
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: One, Yeah, yeah, so I had.

1522
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 6: So I think Bob took the camera and I and

1523
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 6: I had the mic. I was doing play by the

1524
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 6: player and racing on the parking lot and I'm just

1525
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 6: waiting for someone to like pull a hammy or you know,

1526
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 6: take a header in this like Sandy Parking lot and

1527
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 6: Morey won one.

1528
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 8: I think Brian won.

1529
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, just not by mud. They were both you know

1530
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: at you.

1531
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 8: Know, Dave was a good football player, but he was

1532
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 8: more of alignment.

1533
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny. Oh my god, crazy? All right?

1534
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 2: Five to five past five hundred is a.

1535
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: Web radio.

1536
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: We've been here a long time. Uh, let's go to

1537
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: Andrew and Chelsea. What's up Andrew?

1538
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: Hey, how are you guys doing good?

1539
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 14: So I've got kind of a.

1540
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 13: Dream scenario here, and I would love to hear have

1541
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 13: you guys tell me how realistic this is? Just practically speaking,

1542
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 13: I would love to see the Patriots trade Bill Belichick

1543
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 13: to a team like the Commanders for a first round pick,

1544
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 13: then target Marvin Harrison with our own tick Jaden Daniels

1545
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 13: with that pick, and then go after a guy like

1546
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 13: Pat All in the second round. And then, just speaking

1547
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 13: to the conversation you guys were having before the break,

1548
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 13: as long as we've got a plan to get the

1549
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 13: quarterback in place, I think the best thing we can

1550
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 13: do to maximize the Mario Douglass is to add a

1551
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 13: guy like Marvin Harrison Jr.

1552
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 6: Sure I agree with that last part. If you had

1553
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 6: really good receivers then you had like a sort of

1554
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 6: a niche guy like that.

1555
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you get.

1556
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:57,959
Speaker 6: Like a little kiky kootique.

1557
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: If Daniel's starting to intrigue you a little bit.

1558
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 8: I really liked DNS. But if he's getting up to

1559
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 8: the top five, yeah no.

1560
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 2: But like I as a second pick, if you could do.

1561
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: It, I haven't watched man. Yeah.

1562
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 6: I mean the part that I think is unrealistic is

1563
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 6: I do not listen. I could be proven wrong many

1564
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 6: times it's happened. I don't think anyone's given you a

1565
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 6: first round pick for Bill Belichick. But if it happens,

1566
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 6: then that that that scenario is in play.

1567
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 2: I was thinking, Okay, you know, how realistic is it

1568
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: that Bill will play along with that? If if he

1569
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: wants to leave or the Crafts want him to leave,

1570
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: why would he go to a team that immediately has

1571
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: to give up a first round pick. I know he's

1572
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: been through this before where the Jets had to give

1573
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: up you know, we had to give up a pick

1574
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 2: for him and so on, and the Jets had to

1575
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 2: give up a pick for Parcels. So he knows it happens,

1576
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: but why would he play along?

1577
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: Well, aren't those scenarios usually the head coach wants to go.

1578
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's.

1579
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 6: What's not a specific right right to a specific.

1580
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: Place, And it's not really about the team that he's

1581
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: with is done with him. It's that he wants to go.

1582
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 6: So that's what I think.

1583
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: The only way I think, Paul, this might what this

1584
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: could happen, is if there's only one team that wants.

1585
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 6: Him, but does he want them?

1586
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I If he wants to coach,

1587
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 2: he really wants to keep coaching, and there's only one team.

1588
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's that's the bottom line. Yeah, all it

1589
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 6: takes is one team.

1590
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: If you were Bill Belichick's agent, I mean, what would

1591
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: you advise him? I mean, how would you best play

1592
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: this to get him into a new situation if that's

1593
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 1: what he wanted with the maximum amount of money, I.

1594
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: Would say to you know again, please no one think

1595
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,839
Speaker 2: that I know anything or any of us know anything.

1596
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: We're just spitballing here, you know. But if I was

1597
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: his agent, I would say, they'll make them fire you.

1598
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: If they don't want you, they have to fire you

1599
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 2: and then pay you.

1600
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 6: Some might say trotting out Mac Jones week after week

1601
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 6: after week is an.

1602
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 2: Effort I heard that on your one of your shows

1603
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 2: this morning. That really yeah, that that.

1604
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 8: I bet I better foddle it back when I go

1605
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 8: on my shoulder this afternoon.

1606
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: That Bill is trying to be fired. Yeah, he's doing.

1607
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 6: I think he looks like Costanza driving around the Yank

1608
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 6: he's parking lot with the trophy.

1609
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 10: Hang.

1610
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: I heard that theory this morning.

1611
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: But but in all seriousness, like if I were, if

1612
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 2: you're his agent, I'm not talking about Bill, but if

1613
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 2: you're his agent, you're like Bill, make them fire you.

1614
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: Then he can do whatever I quit don't agree to,

1615
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 2: you know, stay on until a trade can be consummated.

1616
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: Tell them fire me, right and because then they probably

1617
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: own money too, right, So you are double dick. You've

1618
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: got the money, the new money.

1619
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 8: And that's what I think.

1620
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 6: Like the Rappaport, you know, the follow up to the extension,

1621
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 6: probably like a month ago now, was Robert Craft. There's

1622
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 6: no intentions of firing him during the season. But to

1623
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 6: clarify the extension was only through twenty four. I think

1624
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 6: that's that's an announcement. All you thirty one other teams,

1625
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 6: any of you interested in Bill Belichick, He's still going

1626
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 6: to be under contract. To us, and if you want him,

1627
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 6: it's going to cost compensation or this money whatever they

1628
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 6: owe them, you know, something like that.

1629
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but does it ever happened before where a team

1630
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: just trades their coach like kind of I don't want

1631
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: to say out of nowhere, but you know what I mean,

1632
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 1: just like this, no, this is this is it? No?

1633
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 6: Not like Peyton and uh, you know John Gruden went

1634
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 6: from the snowball here HM to Tampa Bay the next year.

1635
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 6: Like it happens, but it's always like the.

1636
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: Coach wants to go, wants to go, and there's a

1637
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 2: destination in mind, like you said, yeah, you know, so

1638
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: it's it's a tricky situation.

1639
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 6: And I don't know, like Peyton was able to sit

1640
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 6: out a year, you know, at seventy one. I don't

1641
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 6: know if Bill has the luxury of being able to

1642
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 6: sit out.

1643
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: You know.

1644
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: Somebody asked the question that a recent press conference. I

1645
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: forget who it was, but you know, there's rumors out

1646
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: there that you have a destination in mind already, and

1647
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: he said, that's ridiculous.

1648
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: That's what's come out. I feel like over the last

1649
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't know month, is that I mean leading up

1650
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: to this, it was always does the team want him?

1651
01:12:58,800 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 6: Does the team want him?

1652
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: And now I feel like in the last couple of

1653
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: weeks it's started to turn to, hey, does Bill want

1654
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: to be here? Does he does he even want to

1655
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: think that he can can rebuild this team from where

1656
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: it is.

1657
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 2: But even if he doesn't want to be here, you

1658
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: play it like you want to be here, you make

1659
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 2: them fire you. Yeah, you know, I'm not going anywhere.

1660
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 2: My plan is to be here in twenty twenty four

1661
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: and coaches football.

1662
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,560
Speaker 6: Team and Fred I'm afraid that that's what's going to

1663
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 6: end up happening. Is when we're going to get to

1664
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 6: January eighth, which I think is Black Monday, I think

1665
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 6: both of both sides are going to say, no, we're

1666
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 6: not firing you, and Bill's going to say, well, I'm not.

1667
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: Well. I hope it doesn't. I hope that doesn't get

1668
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: drawn out.

1669
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: You know, like like the idea of compensation for Bill

1670
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: Belichick is intriguing. You'd love to get a first round pick,

1671
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: even a second something, but it might be unrealistic. And

1672
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: I hope that the Crafts don't draw this out, just

1673
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 2: like I hope I let go if that's what they

1674
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: know what they do with that's what they want.

1675
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 6: And I know, like you know, they could point and say, well,

1676
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 6: you know, that's what happened in two thousand when they

1677
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 6: got Bill, and I think it was February, right.

1678
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 2: But Bill gave the famous note to them that I

1679
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: resign as any you know, head coach of then ep

1680
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,839
Speaker 2: AJ But whatever they're.

1681
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 6: You know, Yeah, My point is the team that was

1682
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 6: acquiring Belichick did wait a month before they knew for

1683
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 6: sure that they were going to get him, and they

1684
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 6: and they did it. It didn't matter for the Jets

1685
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 6: because the Jets had nothing to lose. They weren't gonna

1686
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 6: they didn't want Belichick back at that point, so they

1687
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 6: were able to wait it out. But and it worked. Yeah,

1688
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's ideal to do something like

1689
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 6: that again, is it in your best interest to wait

1690
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 6: another month while you're haggling? And and I know I'm

1691
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 6: not a lot to.

1692
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 8: Do, right, I'm not naive.

1693
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 6: I know that they're talking to whoever is going to

1694
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 6: be the next coach, and if it's Mayo or whoever else,

1695
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 6: I'm not naive enough to think, well, Bill Belichick's the

1696
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 6: head coach that's going to prevent them from wouldn't get

1697
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 6: anybody else. No, we'll be talking and working the channels.

1698
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: And even when Parcels left, you know, the Patriots weren't

1699
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: going to let him go without the Jets giving the

1700
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 2: Patriots compensation, So that got drawn out a little bit.

1701
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 2: But in both those instances, Belichick coming here and Parcels

1702
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: going there, you had a quarterback and Drew Bledsoe like,

1703
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: the off season wasn't this thing where my god, we've

1704
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: got to make a lot of moves and we can't

1705
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: wait for someone to be there to make those moves.

1706
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 2: And you had the quarterback in both situations, this is

1707
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 2: a different situation.

1708
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: We've got things to do. Yeah, you know, we've got

1709
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: a lot to do.

1710
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 6: Where we really need to sit down with Robert Craft.

1711
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 8: You get that arranged, Yeah.

1712
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 1: One on one. Yeah, breaking news.

1713
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: So it's it's gonna be a fascinating off season. It's

1714
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: coming quick. But like I said, if I was Belichick's agent,

1715
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 2: I'd be like, hold time.

1716
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that's what he's gonna do.

1717
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: Fred on the jayde Daniels of it, though, Paul, like,

1718
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: I just I'm you know, and I'm kind of proud

1719
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: of how I cover the draft because I don't really

1720
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: pay attention until the season's over, and then I jump

1721
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: in and try to come at it with with me

1722
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: whys But why is it that like that make you proud?

1723
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 1: Because I feel like it brings a new perspective, like

1724
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: everybody like you know, and I think it's funny like

1725
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: that you all of a sudden. But but my question

1726
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: is why is it a month ago all we were

1727
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: talking about was Caleb Williams and Drake May kayleb Wills,

1728
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, here comes Lsu and this

1729
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: kid and Jane Dingels. What in the mix?

1730
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 8: Like, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what I like

1731
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 8: about it? Is Andrew still on the line, I think

1732
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 8: so I think he's listening.

1733
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 2: Oh okay, hi Andrew, did you have anything else or

1734
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 2: you want to go?

1735
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to sew.

1736
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 8: We're working all right?

1737
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 6: Thanks?

1738
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 8: Thanks Andrew.

1739
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: I just heard. But it's just funny, how like what

1740
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: I like about it?

1741
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 6: Though? See when this happens in February, it irritates the

1742
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 6: hell out of me. Yeah, but it's happening now because

1743
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 6: he's playing at a higher level and.

1744
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: He's just the year, the last month or so for the.

1745
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 6: Season, he's been unbelievable. So I'm not telling you that

1746
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 6: he is as good as May.

1747
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't.

1748
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't look at mock drafts. To your point,

1749
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 6: I'm proud of the fact that I don't really look

1750
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 6: at a lot of mock drafts because I don't care

1751
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 6: and all that. All mock drafts do to me is

1752
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 6: they establish a level of expectation. Then when it doesn't

1753
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 6: work out that way, that's when you start saying, well,

1754
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 6: then they reached you know, and oh no, oh what

1755
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 6: great value, and then you'd never know.

1756
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 8: So I don't.

1757
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 6: I don't like absorb every single mock draft every time

1758
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 6: they come out the way a lot of other people do.

1759
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 6: But I haven't really seen much changing from Caleb Williams

1760
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 6: and Drake May being one and two. But I have

1761
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 6: seen Daniels now not just being like a second round option,

1762
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 6: being like a top ten option. I've seen that.

1763
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 8: Well, I've heard that, and.

1764
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Pennix and Nicks have sort of been in that

1765
01:17:55,720 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 6: first round conversation throughout. I think there's some issues with

1766
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 6: both of those guys in terms of age.

1767
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 1: I think every one of these quarterbacks have I think.

1768
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams is so ridiculously talented, and I think he's

1769
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 6: an impressive guy.

1770
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: But he's like I think he's like we cried after

1771
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: a game. No, that's not all he sounds like. I mean,

1772
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: I just saw today that it sounds like he said

1773
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 1: it'll be like a last minute decision if he's going

1774
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: to declare for the draft.

1775
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 6: I mean, he's still I read something in the La

1776
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 6: Times today it seems to think that's not really much

1777
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 6: of a question he's going.

1778
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's going, Jeff and Brooklyn says, I'm so

1779
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 2: glad you started reminiscing about the old days or anything else. Really,

1780
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 2: I can't imagine any Patriots fan caring about what defense

1781
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 2: the Chargers might play, because it really doesn't matter. They

1782
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 2: could put their offense on defense and their defense on offense,

1783
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: and I still wouldn't bet on the Patriots when wow, wow,

1784
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: remember the days when the Chargers would pull up on

1785
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: a one o'clock game, saying that, well, you know, different

1786
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 2: people tune in at different times.

1787
01:18:54,560 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 1: Radio replay that twelve time oh seven AFC championship. What

1788
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: a game?

1789
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 12: Uh?

1790
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 2: Nick writes in I love the team to death and

1791
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: I want them to win every game. But man, was

1792
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 2: it a sigh of relief seeing Chad Ryland miss that

1793
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 2: kick because there really is no other way to fix

1794
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: this to other than other other than getting a new quarterback. Also,

1795
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 2: I want to know your guys' thoughts on the n

1796
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 2: season tournament in the NBA and the Celtics advancing to

1797
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 2: the brackets.

1798
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 1: Oh, I've got thoughts. I don't care.

1799
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 8: I thought they were courts.

1800
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: The courts are pretty crazy. I can't figure out what

1801
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: the formula is though, because I've heard people explaining what

1802
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: it is. Because I kind of like the idea generally

1803
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: in sports. I think it work great in the NHL,

1804
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 1: like let's do an original six tournament over Christmas, you know,

1805
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: like that kind of thing. I think it's a good idea.

1806
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: But every time I try to pay attention to what's

1807
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: going on in basketball, it's like the games are a

1808
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: weird different days. It's not like straight to me.

1809
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 2: To me, doing things like that is conceding that our

1810
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: season's too long and not interesting.

1811
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 8: Right, And they can't. Yeah, that's exactly right, Fred.

1812
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 6: But and what the problem with baseball, basketball, and hockey

1813
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 6: is they all three recognize that the season's too long,

1814
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 6: but you can't go back on it because that's what

1815
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 6: the money is established on, is those forty one gates. Yeah,

1816
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 6: and the eighty one gates in baseball. You know, you

1817
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 6: need that revenue so that they're stuck. So I actually

1818
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 6: I was. I really hated the idea of the n

1819
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 6: season tournament when it was first proposed to me, And I.

1820
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: Don't really went to Paul and proposed it.

1821
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 6: No, you know, like people tell you about it, Like,

1822
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 6: I'm sort of coming around to it for the reason

1823
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 6: Fred just said, like, why would you be watching the

1824
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 6: Celtics win a thirty point game over Chicago last night

1825
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 6: other than the intrigue of are they going to win

1826
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 6: this game by enough points to advance them this stupid tournament. Now,

1827
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 6: you can make an argument this should be a better way.

1828
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 6: But I do think that it's engaged the players a

1829
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 6: little bit and they've played a little bit harder than

1830
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 6: they would.

1831
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 8: I don't hate it. I don't love it.

1832
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 6: I don't love the idea, but I don't I was

1833
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 6: way out initially a lot of seeing how it's unfolded.

1834
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 8: I mean, the idea of them playing like Milwaukee.

1835
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 6: Or the Lakers or Phoenix or you know someone you

1836
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 6: know good with something quote unquote on the line.

1837
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: Well, I.

1838
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: Was talking to somebody today who we're talking about the NBA,

1839
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: And I don't want to get down too much of

1840
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: a rabbit hole, but the NBA is in trouble. They're

1841
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 2: staring at these regional sports networks failing and teams losing

1842
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: the revenue from those deals, and they're in a little

1843
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: bit of a crisis right now to figure out what

1844
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 2: they're going to do. And when you know, when I

1845
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 2: when I talk, I'm talking about like sports. Yeah maybe

1846
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know the Boston market, but a

1847
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: lot of these markets. Uh, these rs n s are failing,

1848
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 2: they're going they're going under, and the teams are like,

1849
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 2: what do we do? You know, one of the teams

1850
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: started their own OTT thing. It's going to be like

1851
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: a paid service. I mean, that's that's risky.

1852
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 8: They they plus, yeah, plusing it up?

1853
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: What is over the top? Like you know, okay, yeah, don't.

1854
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: I just there's something intriguing to me about the idea.

1855
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's always in college you have tournaments and

1856
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: in all kinds and usually around that that holiday break time. Yeah,

1857
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, but I don't know, like you know, get

1858
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: the Florida hockey teams to play off like the California team.

1859
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 1: You know, you could have little tournaments everywhere, and I

1860
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: guess it's.

1861
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 6: Kind of hard to do because of the schedule, like

1862
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 6: you have to have you know, you have to like

1863
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 6: they have to have their schedule, so you have to

1864
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 6: play your your eighty two.

1865
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 1: Games, a playoff game, and a turn you don't know, you.

1866
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:34,879
Speaker 8: Don't exactly what you're playing.

1867
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 6: But I mean, I give them credit for trying to

1868
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 6: make the regular season more interesting and incentivizing the players

1869
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 6: to play harder. Now I win this tournament five hundred

1870
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 6: thousand dollars.

1871
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: Each every player. Yeah, I thought it. I thought it

1872
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: was a million.

1873
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,879
Speaker 6: Maybe I think it's five hundred k per player.

1874
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 20: And now that doesn't sound like much for like like

1875
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 20: a Tatum or a Browns a night out these guys,

1876
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 20: but like the other guys, I heard, like Mike Gorman

1877
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 20: talking about it this morning on my station, Freddy, you

1878
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 20: know the guys at the end of the bench.

1879
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 6: That's that's significant.

1880
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Eldred in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred?

1881
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 14: Hey, the world's greatest podcast. Everybody doing?

1882
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: Oh? Thank you? Appreciate that. Thank you.

1883
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 14: Yeah, I like it too. Original what I'm talking about, Sir,

1884
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 14: I missed them days we used to argue, but yes

1885
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 14: they man, you brought a George in my heart. Okay

1886
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 14: because I listened to Yeah, I listened to the podcast. Well,

1887
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 14: you're claiming for the outside guy like I've been doing

1888
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 14: for fifty even with Brady, and you're telling me, no,

1889
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 14: we need to fight about it.

1890
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 6: That was That was different when it was Brady, you

1891
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 6: didn't need the outside guy.

1892
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 14: You still need the outside guy. Now.

1893
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 6: You don't have the precision on offense to just throw

1894
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 6: eight yard passages to.

1895
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 8: Mario Douglas all the way down the field.

1896
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 6: It's not gonna work really.

1897
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 14: Five yards really five yards. But but I'm like every audio,

1898
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 14: i'd rather have pinnic uh, Daniel Zeus rise Uh, Caleb

1899
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 14: Williams like he's like he came out and said it

1900
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 14: in the beginning he would he wouldn't play for the Patriots,

1901
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 14: And I think there'd be another Eli Man and somebody

1902
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 14: else trade. You know, if we was the biggest there,

1903
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 14: then I won't leave you out with one with two questions. One,

1904
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 14: if they do run it back with Bill, how much

1905
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 14: faith did you had that he would do the right

1906
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 14: thing if we had the top two to three, two

1907
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 14: to six pick besides trailing app.

1908
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 2: Well, here's the question, Eldred, is it up to him anymore?

1909
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 2: I mean, you're hearing all this stuff now that it's

1910
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: a collaborative process, and you know how much really is

1911
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 2: it just Bill's decision on that first round Picktty? I

1912
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 2: don't know the answer. I'll just I don't know that.

1913
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 2: Just help, I'll help Eldred out a little bit. If

1914
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 2: this this regime stays. How much confidence do you have

1915
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: that this regime will do the right thing? Matt Grow,

1916
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: Elliott will still Belichick not one. I don't have a

1917
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: lot of faith.

1918
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of faith.

1919
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm not good about you, okay, but but don't you

1920
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 2: think that the crafts are going to make sure that well, well,

1921
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: here's the thing. If Elliott Wolf and Matt Grow are

1922
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 2: in lockstep with Bill Belichick, then maybe I don't have a.

1923
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: Lot of confidence.

1924
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm assuming that their reputations are on the

1925
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: line too.

1926
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 6: I don't like that what I've seen if this has

1927
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 6: been at all a collaborative, if it has all been

1928
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 6: a collaborative the last two years. I do not like

1929
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 6: what I've seen. I know they don't have any really

1930
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 6: really really good how much how much maybe Christian.

1931
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 2: Could said how much of Bill's thumb is on these picks,

1932
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: saying to Matt Grow, this is the type of player.

1933
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: I want make sure it fits into these parameters.

1934
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 1: I just wonder if it's don't know how hard it

1935
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: is to screw up the third overall pick though, too.

1936
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: I think it's easier to not screw that pick up,

1937
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: like I mean, and we can talk about how they

1938
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: could screw it up. But like with Gonzalez, I agree

1939
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 1: that was one.

1940
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 6: That you know, what kind of thing really frightens me?

1941
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 6: And you'll you'll probably laugh because these are stupid things

1942
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 6: that stick in my hand. Robert anything. But No, like

1943
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 6: two years ago in the draft, when we're talking to

1944
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 6: Matt Grow and people are wondering about Taekwon Thornton's you've

1945
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 6: been grinding away at that film. Well, you know, evidently

1946
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 6: that didn't help you. I'm sure you grinded away it

1947
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 6: a lot more film than Evan did, but it didn't

1948
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 6: help you pick a guy who was any better. I

1949
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 6: didn't like the snarkiness of it, which is ironic coming

1950
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 6: from me. I agree, Yeah, I haven't been impressed. Let's

1951
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 6: just put it that way. We don't have to go

1952
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 6: to the chapter verse. I haven't been overly impressed with that.

1953
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 6: I still think it's Bill, but he's got help from

1954
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 6: Wolf and Grow, and I haven't been impressed with Bill.

1955
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 2: If you want fast guys, you got a draft fast.

1956
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 2: If you want to got a draft, you.

1957
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 8: Got to ask you so right, that's what they said.

1958
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 6: That's what they I.

1959
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: Find myself disagreeing with that, Like, if you want to

1960
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: be rich, you got to make It's not that simple.

1961
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 1: It's you got to draft guys who are smart and

1962
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 1: know how to play and play fast, you know. And

1963
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: so it's like I don't like, you don't want to

1964
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 1: get into like a semantics are given with them, but

1965
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: it's like with Thornton, that's what they did, Like they

1966
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: just what are you run for? Two? Great?

1967
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 2: That's what al Davis used to do. Who's the fastest

1968
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 2: guy in the draft.

1969
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: They take the first run? Can he catch now? Not really?

1970
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: Does you know where to not really? But he can

1971
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 1: get there fast? Art great?

1972
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 14: Tell yeah yeah, yeah, but Watson was there too.

1973
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 2: We could have got him, but no Christian Watson.

1974
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 1: Christian Watson. I like Tom, he was one of my guys.

1975
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: I liked him more.

1976
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,520
Speaker 8: And Watson carry is very much out on him now strange.

1977
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 14: And then you get strange. Like I said before, it

1978
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 14: was the f draft in the beginning, I still said it.

1979
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 6: That was a bad draft there, Yeah, bad draft. Yeah,

1980
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 6: bad draft.

1981
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 8: But Marcus Jones like the only one.

1982
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, really yeah, only one. Yeah, he's hurt and he's hurt.

1983
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 14: I just wish uh they start and if they get

1984
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 14: a first of Bill or a suck it, take it, yeah,

1985
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 14: and have somebody else in place. And no, I don't

1986
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 14: want nobody from Bill's three because they try to run

1987
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 14: and Bill and.

1988
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 6: They don't work all right out, thank you Florio throwing

1989
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,879
Speaker 6: out Rabel for the Patriots.

1990
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 8: I think Florio was on with Rich Eisen, I want

1991
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 8: to say yesterday.

1992
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

1993
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 6: And here Eisen posed a question to him about the

1994
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 6: possibility of Rabel being on the hot seat in Tennessee

1995
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 6: and going to Ohio State, and Florio answered the question

1996
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,600
Speaker 6: by turning it and saying, I think it wouldn't have

1997
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 6: anything to do with Tennessee having Vrabel on the hot seat,

1998
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 6: but maybe Rabel being done with the Titans, and then

1999
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 6: he had mentioned something that he had heard in the

2000
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 6: summer in passing that wouldn't be stunning if the Patriots

2001
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 6: made a play for Rabel.

2002
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: I I love Mike Rabel. I just wonder why there

2003
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: isn't more of a groaning about that potential move because

2004
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: it feels like that's everything people don't want as a

2005
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: defensive coach who, let's face it, like the team he's

2006
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: built in Tennessee is not the team that you want

2007
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 1: to see built here, Like you don't want to see

2008
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: him come here and be like, we got to find

2009
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: a six foot three, two hundred and fift pound running back.

2010
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: That's my first thing.

2011
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 8: I feel like Mike Vrabel and you know me too,

2012
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 8: Mike Frabel.

2013
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 2: If they get Mike Vrabel, then if I'm I'm at it.

2014
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 6: But I feel like Mike Vrabel is living off of

2015
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 6: one playoff upset in Baltimore the year that Lamar Jackson

2016
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 6: won the MVP. It's a team that is antiquated, just

2017
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 6: like all the things that we complain about with the Patriots.

2018
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 6: They have no passing game. They had a weapon, they

2019
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 6: traded it like an AJ Brown, Derrick Henry's nearing the end.

2020
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 6: You can't, in my opinion, you can't win big that way.

2021
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 6: I think he maximized it. I think he can coach.

2022
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 6: I think Mike much like I'll tell you, I think

2023
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick's a great coach. I just think that style

2024
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 6: doesn't work. Like so, you can have the best x's

2025
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 6: and o's if you're not really trying to do what

2026
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 6: I think you know you should do. I'm going to

2027
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 6: say I disagree with it now. I don't understand why

2028
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 6: Vrabel gets as much love as he does based on

2029
01:29:58,600 --> 01:29:59,480
Speaker 6: what's happened.

2030
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: And that's coming from us. We both love the guy,

2031
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 1: mean so.

2032
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 6: And I do. I love him, and he was the

2033
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 6: number one seed halfway. I think he ended up being

2034
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 6: the number one seed in twenty one Max Max rookie year.

2035
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 6: Somehow that team was banged up and they got the

2036
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 6: number one and then they got punched right out.

2037
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 8: Of the playoffs.

2038
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 6: And then last year they were something like I don't

2039
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 6: know were they. I think they were like seven and three,

2040
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,839
Speaker 6: seven and two, and they ended up losing out something

2041
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 6: like that and ended up losing the division of Jacksonville.

2042
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 6: And this year they've been bad. Tannehill was you know,

2043
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 6: he gave them a little bit of a jump that

2044
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 6: first year when they beat the Patriots.

2045
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 2: Is here, I know Robinson got canned.

2046
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, but because of the A. J. Brown trade?

2047
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: Is who's the GM now?

2048
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so I don't know, like how much of

2049
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 2: the blame pie goes to him?

2050
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 6: And yeah, no, Now I think BELLI I mean Belichick,

2051
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 6: Rabel won the power struggle, but ran Carthon. I think

2052
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 6: that's how you pronounce is it car or Carthon? I

2053
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 6: think he won. I mean he's the GM now, and

2054
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 6: I think Rabel might have final say.

2055
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: But I've also seen reports out of Tennessee that that

2056
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: they like Mike Rabel, that they want him long term.

2057
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: I mean know you said that he might want out,

2058
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 1: but I think that's.

2059
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 8: Just Me's what Florio said.

2060
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Florio said, that's just to me, like I can talk

2061
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 1: myself into Jiraw Mayo a little bit more because there's

2062
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: like kind of like Will Greer, there's an element of

2063
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: unknown and it's like, well, Rabel has coached a team,

2064
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 1: we know what he kind of wants to build with Mayo.

2065
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,879
Speaker 1: Maybe there's that hope of but he's going to realize

2066
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 1: you've got to bring the offense into the twenty first century.

2067
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 6: And yeah, and I guess you know, like what Floria

2068
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 6: was pointing to is his Oh and that's a famous

2069
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 6: shot of him when they traded aj Brown and how

2070
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 6: upset he looked. Yeah, oh yeah, you know, and then

2071
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 6: he ended up winning that. But then even this this

2072
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 6: past year with the trade deadline, there was a lot

2073
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 6: of talk about trading Derrick Henry or Hopkins, and he

2074
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 6: was like, no, we don't want any part of that,

2075
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 6: and then they traded Bayered. So that's why I think

2076
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 6: Florio sort of supposing that he's done with They're.

2077
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 2: On the same page Marvin and Cernersville, North Carolina. Old

2078
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 2: friend says, ESPN is reporting Rogers is cleared to practice.

2079
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 2: There goes our.

2080
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 6: Lunch when we're talking about that. Yeah, now we did,

2081
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 6: uh yeah we did. We did see that.

2082
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 8: Very interesting. I think it's crazy, but very interesting.

2083
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm excited for it. I just think, like, honestly, I think.

2084
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 6: It'd be great if he was healthy and played that

2085
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 6: last game. At least you give you something.

2086
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 1: I know, you know, Bill's gonna want to beat those Jets,

2087
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: no matter what's gonna happen. When yeah, on Saturday one

2088
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: o'clock Sunday.

2089
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 8: Can't get that like Saturday.

2090
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in Texas, says Belichick cannot afford to

2091
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 2: sit tight at the end of the season because of

2092
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 2: internal candidates like Mayo and Bill O'Brien. The Crafts can

2093
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 2: screw Belichick and fire him in March after all the

2094
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 2: coaching slots have been filled. Other owners would be reluctant

2095
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 2: to fire their current coach and bringing Bill on the

2096
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 2: eve of free agency, leaving him nowhere to go in

2097
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

2098
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, but then they'd have to pay him well.

2099
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: And they not only that, but they who's making the

2100
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 2: decisions up until March. I mean, there's a lot of

2101
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 2: stuff we need to do.

2102
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 1: Combine anyway, somebody's back and then.

2103
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 5: Has returned, and then has returned, has returned.

2104
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 1: All right, Evan, what what's going on? We would get

2105
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: Paul back in here before I think gives this report.

2106
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna say that the grousing today was was

2107
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:36,520
Speaker 7: pretty high.

2108
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 6: But I'll get to that in a second.

2109
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 7: So out at Patriots practice, there was there was a

2110
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 7: lot going on out there today out at Patriots practice,

2111
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 7: two players missing, uh Pop Douglas not at practice, I

2112
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 7: would assume concussion protocol for for Pop and time Montgomery.

2113
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 7: He's not spotted. It's a weird one, but that's an

2114
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 7: unknown absence. But as much Pop is a big one,

2115
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 7: you know, if you're still in the interest of winning

2116
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 7: football games, Pop is a big one.

2117
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 6: The bigger one. Though.

2118
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 7: We saw about three minutes of positional drills and saw

2119
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 7: Bailey Zappy take every single rep at quarterback.

2120
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so they want you to see.

2121
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 7: Didn't see Mac Jones throw a single pass and he

2122
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 7: was just standing there the whole time watching Bailey Zappy.

2123
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,759
Speaker 7: Not only did Mac Jones not take a single rep,

2124
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 7: Will Greer took a couple and Mac was just standing.

2125
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: There, just standing there, don't move squat. Well, I mean,

2126
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: it's what has to happen. I feel like, I mean, like,

2127
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: what took so long to get to this point of

2128
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 1: he just needs to take a break.

2129
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 2: And I think, I think, again, I don't know anything,

2130
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 2: but I think this is Bill saying here's what I'm doing.

2131
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna come to the podium and tell you,

2132
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 2: you know, because I'm just not going.

2133
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: To get into that.

2134
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 2: But if you want the answer, there he does not

2135
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 2: there's your answer. Bailey, Zappy's going to be yours.

2136
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 7: I should correct myself. Got my backup quarterbacks confused. It

2137
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 7: was Malie Cunningham that took a couple of snaps difference,

2138
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 7: it's not well greer, my apologies. Yeah, so Malik Cuttingham

2139
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 7: was the one that I think maybe he threw one

2140
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 7: or two passes to just to give Zappi a breather,

2141
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 7: But it was it was a Zappi hour like that.

2142
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 6: It was dominated.

2143
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 2: But that's my guess is that's what's going to happen,

2144
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 2: and rather than announce it, he's showing you what's gonna happen.

2145
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 1: The only thing that makes sense to me is to

2146
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: give Zappy all the reps this week and let him

2147
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: let the star and prepare and if he falls on

2148
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: his face, what do you get this.

2149
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 2: There was a little throwaway line that Zappi had after

2150
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 2: the game, and I think it was something to the

2151
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 2: effect of, you know, in games that I've started, you know,

2152
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 2: and mentioning that he won games that he started, you know,

2153
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 2: and that was kind of like, don't don't blame me

2154
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 2: when I get put in and the last drives two halftime.

2155
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you hear what Evan said?

2156
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 8: But he's two and oh in games that you started,

2157
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 8: they've lost every other game he's appeared in.

2158
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yes, that's true.

2159
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, so what did I miss? Barely Z happy he's

2160
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 6: the starter.

2161
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 1: Mac was just standing there watching.

2162
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 7: I'm not going to say he's the starter, but I'm

2163
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 7: gonna I can't say that.

2164
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 2: But my guess is Bill showing us what he's going

2165
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 2: to do rather than having to go to the podium

2166
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 2: and say it because it would be very Mac is

2167
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 2: not going to touch the feet because they could very

2168
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 2: easily have said, Okay, warm ups and done, you know,

2169
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 2: stretching's done, you're out of here.

2170
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 1: But they wanted the media to see this. Oh.

2171
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

2172
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: He did give Doug a little bit more of a

2173
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: response on Elie Cunningham than I was expecting, Like he

2174
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 1: kind of went into a little bit of depth withly Cunningham,

2175
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 1: just that he's been doing both. He's a unique player.

2176
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 14: You know.

2177
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't just he's a receiver and you know that

2178
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:53,799
Speaker 1: kind of thing that usually does.

2179
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 6: See I thought it was kind of he's a receiver

2180
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 6: unless we play a team that has that kind of

2181
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,080
Speaker 6: quarterback and then we make him do scout team to that.

2182
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean like otherwise, I think he's been

2183
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 8: a receiver.

2184
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:06,719
Speaker 7: I just looking at the three minutes, like I gotta

2185
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 7: keep on prefacing that it was three minutes that we

2186
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 7: saw of practice today, Bailey Zappy, Malik Cunningham taking all

2187
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 7: of the reps, Mac Jones just standing there watching. I

2188
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 7: think that there's even a chance that Mac is just

2189
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 7: inactive for the game on Sunday.

2190
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 2: Which I agree.

2191
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 6: I think it makes sense.

2192
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 7: If you're not going to start him, then it probably

2193
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 7: doesn't make a whole lot of sense to even have

2194
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 7: him active and hanging, you know, looking over Bailey's appy

2195
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 7: shoulder at every turn. So I think that there's a

2196
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 7: chance that maybe he's the emergency quarterback if anything. But

2197
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 7: I think there's a chance that mac Jones is just

2198
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 7: flat out and active.

2199
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 2: I I that sounds reasonable to me. So that's great,

2200
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 2: that's well, not great, but that's interesting stuff.

2201
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 1: Thank you for that.

2202
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 7: Pads today, Pads today, pads on Wednesdays, we did see

2203
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 7: pads and it was it was freezing and it was

2204
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 7: real col and.

2205
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 2: With with young Bailey under center today, Yes, what was

2206
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 2: the mood of his teammates?

2207
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 7: Exactly the same thing. Okay, there was no mood swing,

2208
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 7: which when he came into the game last week, say

2209
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 7: what you want about the sixty yard touchdown drive that

2210
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 7: he led, because it was screen passes and runs, right,

2211
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 7: It wasn't like he really did anything fancy in particular,

2212
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 7: but there was a momentary jolt, right, I mean they

2213
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 7: went down the field when he got in the game.

2214
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 7: It was very short lived, but you wonder if maybe

2215
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 7: there is a little bit of a of a jolt.

2216
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 7: Not that we would see that today necessarily, but on Sunday.

2217
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, all I can say about and I agree that

2218
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 6: first drive they went down and scored. They didn't score

2219
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 6: any drives on the first half. Do you know they

2220
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 6: had more yards in the first half than the second half. Like,

2221
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 6: I have to look at that, And I was like, huh,

2222
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 6: it's just amazing how your mine can play tricks on

2223
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 6: you just because of you know one like, because I

2224
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 6: agree with Evan, I thought, yeah, if the production wasn't

2225
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 6: really any different, but it looked bad.

2226
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 1: But really, like the best thing for me was just

2227
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 1: that he kind of shook out of a sack and

2228
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:08,600
Speaker 1: kind of got away. Oh.

2229
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 6: I think that was the best thing that he did,

2230
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 6: was he far exceeded what Mac does under pressure, moving

2231
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 6: around avoiding sacks, even a little shovel that he had

2232
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 6: to Stevenson that was just short of the first down.

2233
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, a little off script, he keeps his

2234
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 7: eyes up heah, he did. Uh, it was almost it

2235
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 7: was kind of an if he passed, but he threw

2236
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 7: one to Juju in the right flat where they blitzed

2237
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 7: and they had to abort the play action and Remandre

2238
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 7: picked up the blitzer and he kind of just danced

2239
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 7: around the blitzer a little bit and then got his

2240
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,759
Speaker 7: eyes back up field, and it was an if he passed.

2241
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't love the pass, but he had

2242
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 6: another if he passed on the the last drive before

2243
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 6: the field goal attempt where the guy basically dropped it.

2244
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2245
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:56,799
Speaker 2: So now what about the grousing.

2246
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, well it was it was really cold.

2247
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was really cold out and uh, there's a

2248
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:06,600
Speaker 7: lot of grousing about Army Navy, and I know careful.

2249
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 6: People were commerce.

2250
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 7: You guys are calling me a communist because I'm on the.

2251
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 8: Why why why is the grossing about Army?

2252
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 7: Well, because the press conferences were today and some people

2253
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 7: like Alex Bart, you know, the college football people here

2254
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 7: were up at the at the press conferences with this guy.

2255
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 7: He was there, Deuce was there, and uh, you know,

2256
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 7: there was a lot of conversation about are you going,

2257
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 7: are you excited?

2258
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 6: Is that the other thing?

2259
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 7: And you know, I have I have getten, I have

2260
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 7: no It sounds like you a grouser. I have no

2261
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 7: time for the wing tea. Yeah, now, I you do

2262
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 7: do six to three on your own.

2263
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 1: There was there was some shocker.

2264
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 8: I was thinking about it.

2265
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 6: I do think it would be kind of cool just

2266
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 6: to experience the pageantry in some way.

2267
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 1: But there's so much going on, Like there's much with

2268
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: this game.

2269
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 2: Like, honestly, I have a lot I have to do

2270
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 2: on Saturday. You know, I don't have a lot of

2271
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 2: Saturdays off. Yeah, so I need to get things done.

2272
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: Something probably stuff like that, you know, you know, around

2273
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 1: the house.

2274
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2275
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 7: Some I have the utmost respect for the military, and

2276
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 7: I mean that sincerely.

2277
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: This game heavily invested in the Navy program.

2278
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:20,679
Speaker 7: This game every single year puts football back like fifty years,

2279
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 7: like in terms of like what they actually do in

2280
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 7: the football game.

2281
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 2: It's not good football.

2282
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 7: And I just I can't the fact that we make

2283
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:30,799
Speaker 7: such a pageantry about about a football game that literally

2284
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 7: is like it was played in nineteen fifty. I just can't.

2285
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 7: I'm sorry.

2286
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for yourself. It was funny. I was

2287
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: listening to the Army coach a little bit and he

2288
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 1: was just talking about, you know, like we played I

2289
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 1: think they played LSU this year, and I mean they

2290
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 1: got like sixty one up, but he's like, you know,

2291
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 1: we'll just before the ball is even snapped, were already overmatched.

2292
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: Like these are a lot of the games that you

2293
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 1: know they have to play. But Army has a chance.

2294
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Actually they upset Air Force and if they win this

2295
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: game they eat, maybe they win the Commander in Chief.

2296
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 6: I do wonder because all three of them run the wishbone,

2297
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 6: you know, and the triple option. I know that you

2298
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:09,599
Speaker 6: don't necessarily need high level athletes, I know the obvious,

2299
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 6: but like, why don't necessarily have to have the best

2300
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 6: top I mean, obviously you can't compete with LSU, but

2301
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 6: you're not competing with LSU running your triple option either, So.

2302
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 1: Why do they do? Why do you have to do?

2303
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 6: Why do they all have to run the triple I

2304
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 6: honestly don't know. I mean, there's like every high school

2305
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 6: almost in the world now runs the spread, right.

2306
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 7: That's what I was just about to say, was that

2307
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 7: you can make the excuse of the athletes, but like

2308
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 7: the high school teams in this country are now running

2309
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 7: air raid spread offenses with with sixteen year olds, Like

2310
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 7: so I understand that. I don't get it. I don't

2311
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 7: get it.

2312
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 8: It is strange to me that they all run the

2313
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:45,759
Speaker 8: same offense.

2314
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 1: It just feels kind of a military offense though.

2315
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 8: Just well, that's it's disciplined.

2316
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 1: We're just going to be grind what we do and

2317
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna rights right flank.

2318
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 7: There was a lot of there's a lot of grit

2319
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 7: and toughness and like all this kind is.

2320
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,879
Speaker 6: And I will say, I do not watch the games,

2321
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 6: you know, for sixty minutes, but I will click it

2322
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 6: on and I will keep tabs of the score, and

2323
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 6: if it's close in the last five minutes, I will

2324
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 6: watch and be riveted because of just how much it

2325
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 6: means to both sides.

2326
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 2: And afterwards they sing both of them.

2327
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know why you have to make fun

2328
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,799
Speaker 6: of things, like there's no tradition anymore.

2329
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 1: We can't well, we can't look back. And I think

2330
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 1: that everybody just like every I think like three hours

2331
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 1: before the game, everybody comes in at once? Is that?

2332
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Which is what everyone says.

2333
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 6: That's what I said, Like the pageant, it's not the game,

2334
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 6: it's so much, you know, it's just it's I thought

2335
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 6: about it. But yeah, ultimately it was a little too expensive.

2336
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, one question about going for the table. About the

2337
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:48,600
Speaker 7: quarterback situation.

2338
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh okay, back on the rails.

2339
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, because I got we're done with that.

2340
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 8: I can't.

2341
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 7: I can't even does Mac Jones start another game for

2342
01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 7: the Patriots and his career?

2343
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: I think about that, I'm gonna say yea, let me

2344
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 1: say yes.

2345
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 6: I'm going to say yes to but not because.

2346
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 1: I think it's just gonna be middling with Zappi and

2347
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:11,799
Speaker 1: you know they'll be let's give back another chance against It's.

2348
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 2: A good question, one that you wouldn't even entertain a

2349
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 2: year ago.

2350
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 1: But I'm going to say no, this.

2351
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,640
Speaker 6: Is its September.

2352
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 10: Look at that.

2353
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 6: Job, thank you. As recently a September, I would have

2354
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 6: said they'll definitely pick up his fifty year option because

2355
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 6: it's cheap. But now it's not that cheap.

2356
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: But they look at they're still might.

2357
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 2: But for this he could be a backup next year.

2358
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean, but is it backup quarterback cheap?

2359
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 6: No? Oh no, No, what he would make next year

2360
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 6: would be back up quarterback. The fifty year option wouldn't

2361
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 6: be backup quarterback cheap.

2362
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 10: No.

2363
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: Can you franchise franchise that guy? If a fourth year pick,

2364
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:52,719
Speaker 1: the first round pick, you don't pick up his option,

2365
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 1: but then yeah, the end of the fourth year you

2366
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 1: franchise him instead.

2367
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 6: You sure, I'm pretty sure. Yeah you can't, I think

2368
01:44:57,479 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 6: because they could have done that with Daniel Jones and

2369
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 6: they did it with Arkley instead.

2370
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2371
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 7: No, the fifth year option, I have to look up

2372
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 7: the number again. It's somewhere, but the franchise I want

2373
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 7: to say, it's like twelve to fifteen million for the

2374
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,719
Speaker 7: fifth year option, but it's all based off of position

2375
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 7: and where in the draft you went in the first round,

2376
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 7: and I believe it's somewhere in like the twelve to

2377
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 7: fifteen nine.

2378
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't be ideal, but it would be

2379
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 1: like if in that fourth year you didn't pick it

2380
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: up and he just all of a sudden it all clicked,

2381
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then you want it's probably

2382
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 1: still a way too.

2383
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 8: Franchise it's a lot more expensive than the fifth year round.

2384
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you miss out on it, you know,

2385
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 1: but not that.

2386
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 6: But I just look at it as like, chances of

2387
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 6: someone getting hurt between now and the end of the

2388
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 6: year are probably pretty good. He might have to play.

2389
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: I gotta say, though, I don't. I don't feel like

2390
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 1: I can really make a case that he deserves to

2391
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 1: start again, at least at this point. I mean, I

2392
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 1: think he's been given plenty of chances, and I think

2393
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:48,959
Speaker 1: they've given him a long beach.

2394
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 6: And I you don't know how the draft process is

2395
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 6: gonna unfold either. What if they can't get a what

2396
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 6: if they don't get a quarterback in the first round?

2397
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 7: Also the fifth option point because he made the Pro.

2398
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 6: Bowl, you should that counts because I've been told that

2399
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 6: that does not.

2400
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,600
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, this is it's a playing time incentive. Sorry,

2401
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 7: because he started so many games. It's actually twenty three million.

2402
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 6: Okay, it escalates because of that.

2403
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: That's a little different. It's a little rich for my blood.

2404
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, but to me, it's no different than fifteen.

2405
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 2: Well it was twelve to fifteen was Yeah.

2406
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 6: And I think this is a zero percent chance they

2407
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 6: were picking it up at twelve million.

2408
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,879
Speaker 7: Twenty three million is not happening.

2409
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 6: No, and I don't I don't think and I would

2410
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,640
Speaker 6: have said for sure in September.

2411
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 1: That not in this economy.

2412
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 6: I don't think he's starting the Patriots.

2413
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,879
Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to the phones. Wills and Florida.

2414
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 1: What's up Will?

2415
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 2: Oh Wow? Party's on after the game? Matthews and Virginia Beach.

2416
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 2: What's up, Matthew?

2417
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 21: How you doing today?

2418
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 14: Guys?

2419
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 1: Good?

2420
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 21: Hey, Hey, it's going to start off by saying, go

2421
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 21: Navy beat Army.

2422
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 1: Okay, this one, I'm off for that.

2423
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm rooting for Army, active duty Navy. They pay

2424
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 21: me to say that.

2425
01:46:58,200 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 6: That's all right, Okay, thank you for your.

2426
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 21: Us YEP, appreciate it, Thanks for the sport. Just getting

2427
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 21: back to a previous call with Eldred. Yeah, I gotta say,

2428
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 21: and I don't think I'm telling any tales out of

2429
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 21: school here, but I'd rather standpaper, a bobcast ass, and

2430
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 21: a phone booth than to trust Bill Belichick in this

2431
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 21: regime with a draft pick, I mean, And which brings

2432
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 21: me to another point, like I noticed, you know, we

2433
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 21: talk about, and we've been talking about for a while

2434
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:31,959
Speaker 21: the the lack of talent on this team, and everybody

2435
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 21: has all of their fingers and toes pointed at Bill

2436
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 21: Belichick for assembling this roster. But I noticed, like we

2437
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 21: don't talk about who's actually scouting these players, like who

2438
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 21: is are we? And maybe I don't really I don't

2439
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,719
Speaker 21: fully grasp how the how the scouting process.

2440
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 6: You're right, you're.

2441
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 21: Pro scouting or college scouting or is it is? Is

2442
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 21: this like you know, are they are they coming back

2443
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 21: to Bill in the front office and his coach except

2444
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,879
Speaker 21: saying like you know all this you know, for instance,

2445
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 21: maybe Cole Strange all this guy is just all world.

2446
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 21: You got to get him in the first round.

2447
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 8: It's a great question, you.

2448
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 21: Know, telling them you are they just giving you know,

2449
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 21: just basic and from I shouldn't say basic, but you know,

2450
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 21: this is what this guy is good at. This is

2451
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 21: these are his strengths things like that? Or are they

2452
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 21: scouting like through a Patriots land like how they would fit?

2453
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 21: I guess I just need more clarify.

2454
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 8: It all depends on who you believe.

2455
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,599
Speaker 1: That's troubling. Yeah, I mean I I just always think

2456
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: of it as there's low level scouts and they do

2457
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 1: the hard work. And you know, if things just work

2458
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 1: their way up the chain and each person gets a

2459
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 1: look and then it finally gets to Bill Belichick and

2460
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 1: they say, this is what our board, this is what

2461
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: and he goes through and he then and I.

2462
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 2: Believe he also watches film.

2463
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 8: Oh sure, but it all depends on who you believe.

2464
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 6: There's been a lot of stories over the past ten

2465
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 6: plus years that have indicated that he goes rogue a lot,

2466
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 6: and he gets all of his reports from the scouts,

2467
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 6: he says thank you, and then he goes on his own.

2468
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,759
Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt that he did that with Rutgers

2469
01:48:58,320 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 2: because I think it was a thank you to the

2470
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 2: program one, you know, for taking care of Steve there,

2471
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 2: you know, letting him walk on and be a long

2472
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 2: snapper and all that. And he likes Chiano. And I

2473
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 2: think a lot of those picks, not saying there were

2474
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 2: bad picks. All those guys had good careers, you know,

2475
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 2: but but I think he made it a point to

2476
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 2: take Rutgers guys.

2477
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 1: You know. It was a good streak.

2478
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:26,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you Madruckers.

2479
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 2: Mccordy was great, Logan Ryan was in the league for

2480
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,600
Speaker 2: a long time, Deron Harmon was in the league for

2481
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:35,639
Speaker 2: a long time. I'm not saying they were great players,

2482
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 2: but they had decent NFL careers.

2483
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, like those guys are are are like

2484
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,640
Speaker 7: they deserve to be in an NFL secondary.

2485
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 2: The average NFL careers three and a half years, and

2486
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 2: they far exceeded none of them.

2487
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 1: We got Harmon and McCarty.

2488
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 7: Was Logan Logan, Ryan Logan, Ryan was He went on

2489
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 7: to be a pretty good player after here as well.

2490
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean they were all decent player.

2491
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that there were other people that

2492
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:05,600
Speaker 2: could have been picked. But I think Bill made it

2493
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 2: a point to thank SIANOA Steve O.

2494
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:08,839
Speaker 1: Harness.

2495
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 6: I mean, in fairness there, I'm not going to use

2496
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 6: that like that was wasn't even like a six or

2497
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 6: seventh round pick. Yeah, there was a couple of those.

2498
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 6: I think my problem with the Rutgers guys other than

2499
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 6: mccordy as I felt like they were overdrafted, not that

2500
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 6: they weren't NFL players, to use Evans phrase, they were.

2501
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 6: You know, I think Harmon's still.

2502
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 1: Playing, Yeah, he was a practice squad recently.

2503
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 7: Any think I think the biggest you know, Nikhil Harry

2504
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 7: is the biggest one, but there just are so many

2505
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 7: times that they take guys and you're like, that could

2506
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 7: not have been their board, right, Like, like I know

2507
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 7: how much work you know, Macro and Cameron Williams and

2508
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 7: all those guys put into the draft, and there's no

2509
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 7: way that they know those guys went into the twenty

2510
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 7: twenty two draft and Cole Strange was at the top

2511
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 7: of board.

2512
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 2: There's no doubt that Bill often shoes talent in order

2513
01:50:56,479 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 2: to strengthen connections, say thank you to a guy up

2514
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 2: a program that he likes or because of the coach

2515
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 2: or whatever. You know, there's no doubt that he's he's

2516
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,719
Speaker 2: done that thing over just taking the best guy.

2517
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 1: The draft results back you up, Fred.

2518
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:15,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And I think that's one of his flaws,

2519
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 2: is like it's it all comes in the heading of loyalty,

2520
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 2: and you know, like loyalty we was friends his circle

2521
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 2: of friends, and that's kind of like a you would

2522
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 2: think that's an admirable trade, but sometimes it can get

2523
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:30,480
Speaker 2: in the way of just business decisions.

2524
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: You know. What was the hairy one though, I think

2525
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 1: that is that just I mean, I know, the Lombardy thing.

2526
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,679
Speaker 6: There was a couple of different what's his name scenario.

2527
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 6: Todd Graham.

2528
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, so no, no, no, but he he liked who

2529
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 7: was the guy? It might it might have been Todd

2530
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 7: Graham the really said to kill Harry. Also, I remember

2531
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 7: hearing that his visit here, his top thirty visit, thanks Math,

2532
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 7: he knocked it out of the park compared to Debo

2533
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 7: A J. Brown, obviously it was I forget, I always

2534
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 7: forget which one it was. Deebo is the one that

2535
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 7: instagram lived himself here like that. You know, that's a

2536
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,640
Speaker 7: quick way to not be an.

2537
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 6: Or something like that. That's not happening. But again, that

2538
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 6: would infuriate me if I was like, oh, yeah, it

2539
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 6: does that would infuriate me that that really And I'm

2540
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 6: not I'm not gonna blame him for something I don't

2541
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 6: know that he did. But if that's why, that would

2542
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 6: be infuriating.

2543
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 1: To me, what Brown do because he was the same thing, right, yeah,

2544
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 1: A J.

2545
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 6: Brown.

2546
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 7: I just think that to Kill Harry had a really

2547
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 7: really good visit.

2548
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 6: Harry could play on four downs.

2549
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 7: I also, you know, remember back now, just thinking about this,

2550
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 7: Gronk was on the top one hundred all time thing

2551
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 7: with Belichick and told the story about how he fell

2552
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 7: asleep during his Top thirty visit and was like, not there,

2553
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 7: I heard that, and they still drafted him and look

2554
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 7: at what happened.

2555
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 2: You know.

2556
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 7: So if that was really the true story with Nikill Harry,

2557
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 7: is that it came down to he was really good

2558
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 7: on the whiteboard compared to everybody else.

2559
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 6: Then, Like that's.

2560
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 8: Everybody said that about Chad Jackson too, Yeah, Freddy yep.

2561
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 1: Man, he's got a blind spot with those guys, I think.

2562
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean picking guys for little anecdotal things like that.

2563
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 1: You know, just watch the film. How does he compare?

2564
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 6: And that gets back to what we were talking about,

2565
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 6: Like that's why I'm not necessarily offended about this Jaden

2566
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 6: Daniels thing of him sort of rising because it's he's

2567
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 6: rising because of his play play.

2568
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 1: And I mean to be clear, like I wasn't you know, No, no, no,

2569
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 1: you're not offended, but you know, like I just it's

2570
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 1: like you spent like these guys just become flavor of

2571
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: the month, and all of a sudden, it's like this guy, like, well,

2572
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 1: where was where was the other guy? Three months ago?

2573
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 1: We don't even heard of him.

2574
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 6: The other part of that is here because we're in

2575
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 6: this bubble and and all the people that we have

2576
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 6: on our timelines and stuff. We're now, you know, suddenly

2577
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 6: everybody's big college football fan at right. You know, we're

2578
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:55,719
Speaker 6: getting stories and I love Chris Price. Okay, Chris Price

2579
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:57,919
Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks has been writing a story

2580
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 6: telling all the fans which games they should be watching,

2581
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 6: because like, like you to watch college football, you don't like,

2582
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, they have a top five pick

2583
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,560
Speaker 6: on the horizon. So we got to pay attention a

2584
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 6: little bit closer to LSU this week. And that's what's happening,

2585
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 6: is like, and I was two hundred yards in one game.

2586
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 6: We got to get this.

2587
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 1: He's number three.

2588
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 7: Now, well, well I'd pushed back a little bit on

2589
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 7: you deuce because Jaden Daniels was on the NFL radar

2590
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 7: last year. Oh yeah, yeah, no, I like, you know,

2591
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 7: he was a guy that he was at LSU's pro

2592
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:30,640
Speaker 7: day last year. There's the picture with him with Belichick

2593
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 7: watching the LSU guy's workout, And he was at the

2594
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 7: pro day last year to do exactly what he was

2595
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 7: doing Rob elbow is with the guys in the NFL

2596
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 7: because he was going to be an NFL quarterback. Now

2597
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 7: he's taken that leap this year into you know, Heisman

2598
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 7: Trophy territory.

2599
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 6: And didn't he play for herm too? He might have

2600
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 6: had probably before her.

2601
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 2: That would be that would be the play. Belichick stays

2602
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 2: he's got the second pick and he picks Jade and

2603
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 2: Daniels over May I wilt.

2604
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:00,000
Speaker 6: I wouldn't.

2605
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 7: I will say I from what I've seen of Jaden

2606
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:05,839
Speaker 7: Daniels this year, I am very intrigued.

2607
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 6: Well, he's got I know they've probably I like to

2608
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 6: see what happens at the combine when his official numbers,

2609
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 6: but he's listed at six four.

2610
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 8: Maybe he's not six four. I like the size there too.

2611
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 6: I know that he looks small to me, but then

2612
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 6: the kiss.

2613
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 8: Florida State small Jordan Travis.

2614
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 6: No, Well, Daniels was just one that I couldn't thinner.

2615
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 1: He just he's hard to tell just in a picture,

2616
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 1: hard to tell how big he is really because he's

2617
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 1: kind of not.

2618
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 7: He's definitely has a little a thinner.

2619
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: Frame plus purple thins. But he didn't work for Holy Cross.

2620
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 7: He's got a lot of the same traits i'd say

2621
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 7: as a thrower as C. J. Stroud, but he runs

2622
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 7: better than Stroud does.

2623
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 6: But is that one of those quick twitch colors though?

2624
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 1: Purple?

2625
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's darker. David's in New York. What's up, David?

2626
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 1: Not no more David?

2627
01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, we got a few more minutes. Playbook

2628
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 2: is coming. Let's vamp it up.

2629
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 1: Playbooks coming up?

2630
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, So Bailey z Appy. I think that's the

2631
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 6: call that I think most people felt like what happened?

2632
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 6: I still, in the back of my mind wondered, is

2633
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 6: he just going to keep running it out there with

2634
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 6: Mac Jones? Yeah?

2635
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 8: I mean, hopefully we'll see Zappy at least a change

2636
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 8: to the mame.

2637
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 1: Like we said, Paul.

2638
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 2: They didn't have as many yards uh in the second

2639
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 2: half of the first half, surprisingly, but the end of

2640
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 2: the day, he I don't know if you call him

2641
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 2: led them, but he was not a drive. They got

2642
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 2: them in position to tie the game where the Chip

2643
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 2: shot field goal.

2644
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 6: That I'm not giving him credit for that why because

2645
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 6: they didn't move any yards.

2646
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 7: He did pick took over basically a field goal. He

2647
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 7: did pay that was the fourth down, right, He did

2648
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 7: pick up a fourth down at Juju. That was a

2649
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 7: bad throw but he caught it.

2650
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 6: But it's also part of my thing, like in the

2651
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 6: first half, you don't do that because you're not going

2652
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 6: for the fourth down and your part like that's another

2653
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 6: part of it.

2654
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just think that the team took over

2655
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 1: a midfield. I don't know how the team could keep

2656
01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: going out there with Mac, you know, behind Macley. I

2657
01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 1: just fred, it's like they have faith enough. And I

2658
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 1: don't feel like when you're walking out there with Mac,

2659
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 1: they don't have faith right.

2660
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 2: Now, always somebody's son, but it's enough.

2661
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 8: That would be somebody I know.

2662
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 1: And that's just like, can I just say, like they're

2663
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 1: thirty two of these jobs. It's hard. It is like

2664
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 1: that you are put on them like tough. It's they're

2665
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 1: thirty two of the jobs. Like I don't feel bad

2666
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 1: for any NFL quarterback, like you have God given amazing talent, strength, size,

2667
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 1: all that thing. Sorry if it doesn't quite work.

2668
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 6: Every once in a while, dark dudes come. But I

2669
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 6: will say, it's like it feels so bad for this

2670
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 6: NFL quarterback. I don't feel bad at the world.

2671
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 1: On a string for the last five years, you know,

2672
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 1: Like I.

2673
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 7: Don't feel bad for him, but you like you do

2674
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 7: worry about he is a human being, and you.

2675
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 8: Do like you do.

2676
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 7: You don't worry about his mental health at all. Like

2677
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 7: poor guy, Like the whole thing is falling apart on him.

2678
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:49,920
Speaker 2: And I mean, people are calling you hot garbage.

2679
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 6: And yeah, I don't know that part of it is

2680
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 6: that's what you sign up for. Yeah, But so I

2681
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 6: don't necessarily look at that way, but I do have.

2682
01:57:57,680 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 6: And there's plenty of guys that I felt bad for,

2683
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 6: at least o bad for Andrew Luck. I felt like,

2684
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 6: you know, put a semblance of an offensive line in

2685
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 6: front of this guy and let him play. He obviously

2686
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 6: can play, and they didn't have the right support around him.

2687
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 6: You know.

2688
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 8: Fred used to say it all the time.

2689
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 1: Oh God, what a waste.

2690
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition of

2691
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 2: Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow with our picks. Stay

2692
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 2: tuned for John Rook in the playbook.

2693
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:28,000
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01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:31,480
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