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Speaker 1: Good morning, coach, How are you? Good morning, gentlemen? How

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Speaker 1: are we doing this week? Awesome? How does it feel like?

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Speaker 1: Is there is there more pepping the step in the

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Speaker 1: building without the measuring stick talk, maybe a big preview,

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Speaker 1: maybe the game of the year, or does it feel

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Speaker 1: like every other week with you and the guys? Um?

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, definitely the energies building. I think

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Speaker 1: we all recognize what a great challenge we have, you know,

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Speaker 1: like anything, you come off of a good win. You know,

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Speaker 1: Monday you go through your routine and then Wednesday you're

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Speaker 1: feel building. But no, this is uh, this this if

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Speaker 1: I was a fan. I am a fan, But if

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Speaker 1: I was sitting around Sunday and decide trying to decide

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Speaker 1: game I'd be watching. Do do y'all view games like

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Speaker 1: this as as like a barometer or lipus test type game? Um?

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Speaker 1: You know, I frankly I think those questions are more

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Speaker 1: once you answer after the fact. I mean, we have

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Speaker 1: but we know we're very accountable and uh focused on

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Speaker 1: you know, being something better than what we've done so

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Speaker 1: far this year. I mean, we we've come off of

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Speaker 1: the last three four years. So uh, this this these

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Speaker 1: think this is all part of the path um in

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Speaker 1: the threshold you got to get over to win a championship. Coach,

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Speaker 1: what have you seen? They've been a huge story this

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Speaker 1: year throughout the first half because of the up and

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Speaker 1: down play like the Chiefs, the same as the Future

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Speaker 1: Dynasty over what have you seen with some of their

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Speaker 1: inconsistencies throughout the first half of the year. Well, either

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you just really focus off the last

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Speaker 1: the heck has everybody been talking about? You? Know, so

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Speaker 1: they're extremely explosive. I think they've really settled into how

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Speaker 1: they want to play on defense. They're playing differently now

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Speaker 1: of late than they did earlier in the year. They

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Speaker 1: were really aggressive personally. I don't get caught up. We've

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Speaker 1: September Football is you know, there's some variety and some inconsistency,

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Speaker 1: out of that, you know, teams really established themselves this

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Speaker 1: football team that's established themselves and this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a great contest. Mike McCarthy, you join us here. I

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Speaker 1: want to five through the fan. When you see like

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Speaker 1: a much higher rate than he ever has before, do

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Speaker 1: teams really done something different to him? Well, I think

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Speaker 1: every quarterback. We call them profile tapes, you know, and

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Speaker 1: we have our fundamental tapes, so we've shown every you know,

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Speaker 1: takeaway against their offense of the season. Actually, that's something

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Speaker 1: You know, we feel like we can run the football

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Speaker 1: each and every week regardless who were playing, and we

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Speaker 1: let's let's throw the bomb. Let let's let's let's unleash here.

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Speaker 1: Let's stop with these little six and seven yard games.

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Speaker 1: You're you're fine with that, oh absolutely, because I think

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Speaker 1: And you know, something we've always coached offensively, and it's

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Speaker 1: You know, we've you know, we've moved around, He's played

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Speaker 1: So he gives us, he gives you a great flexibility

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Speaker 1: and you know, he's a really good player both in

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Speaker 1: the Ronda and protection. Coach Connor Williams has gotten, you know,

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Speaker 1: penalized quite a bit most in the league this year.

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Speaker 1: how do you approach the players and they get penalized

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Speaker 1: you is that's not something that you coach either, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: by that statement, but um, yeah, it's definitely. I mean,

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Speaker 1: We've we've always broken down the penalties in three areas.

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Speaker 1: was fantastic. Thank you so much. We cannot wait. We

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