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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to No Dunks presented by FanDuel. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host for today, Trey Kirby and joining me here

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Speaker 1: in the factory. It's Tass Mellis. Hi. Basketball, you were

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Speaker 1: good yesterday. Basketball, My good yesterday. We got the man

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Speaker 1: making the magic happen over there behind the boards. It's JD.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Ugh, JD.

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Speaker 1: Hello to you. No skeets today, But we do have

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Speaker 1: a very special guest, perhaps our most frequent guest. When

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Speaker 1: you factor in No Buffs, you know him from everything.

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Speaker 1: It's Jason Concepsia, almost a big dog.

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Speaker 3: Great to be here. Basketball was almost too bountiful last night.

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Speaker 1: That was gonna be my first question for you. Were

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Speaker 1: there too many exciting games last night?

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Speaker 4: Too many exciting games? I was.

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Speaker 3: I tried to drill down. I'll watch in multiview occasionally,

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Speaker 3: you know, just kind of get a feel for what's

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Speaker 3: going on. But I tried to drill down on like

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Speaker 3: two games a night, and all of a sudden it

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Speaker 3: became clear that that's not gonna That wasn't gonna work.

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Speaker 4: Last night.

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Speaker 3: You have to really drilled down on a multiple games.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy, crazy night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, overtime, I felt like it was kind of becoming

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Speaker 1: a scourge to the NBA last night. I couldn't switch

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Speaker 1: over to other games when they were closed, because like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I gotta see what's ending up here with Wizards Pistons

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Speaker 1: before I can turn over to Calves Heat, and before

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Speaker 1: I can turn over to see Wemby just destroyed the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls. It was a bumber to be able to

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Speaker 1: have to watch all this basketball to keep track of

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Speaker 1: all these things. But we'll start in. Miami Heat got

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Speaker 1: a midi from Himai Hakas Junior late in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: forced overtime against the Cavaliers, and overtime it looked like

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Speaker 1: Mammy had Cleveland beat until Donovan Mitchell grabbed an offensive rebound,

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Speaker 1: hitting amazing three from the corner tie things up with

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Speaker 1: zero point four seconds left, just enough time for the

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Speaker 1: Heat to run a beauty sideline out of bounds play

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Speaker 1: for an alleyu to Andrew Wiggins for a buzzer beating dunk.

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Speaker 1: You think this was the game of the night, Jason's

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Speaker 1: kind of hard to tell.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's the game of the night, but

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Speaker 3: I think it's an incredible game. It's first of all,

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Speaker 3: Miami Heat, what what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Guy?

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Speaker 1: What Miami?

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Speaker 4: I actually do believe.

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Speaker 3: In it because a lot of continuity on that team.

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Speaker 4: Eric Spolster obviously.

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Speaker 3: Best coach in the NBA, potentially best active coach, and

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Speaker 3: the strategy of just amping the pace, amping, amping it

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Speaker 3: way up seems very repeatable. Early on, I was like,

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Speaker 3: can this, you know, can this really work? But it's

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Speaker 3: they're doing it in a way where their defense is

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Speaker 3: coming along with it, their offenses UH is feasting on

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Speaker 3: the extra possessions, and they're just kind of blitzing teams

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Speaker 3: like it's in the the regular season. Teams aren't going

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Speaker 3: to be ready for it. And certainly, while it's a

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Speaker 3: just like WHOA, Okay, we're still running. We're still going,

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Speaker 3: We're still going incredible. I do believe in it a

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Speaker 4: Do you guys believe in it?

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Speaker 1: I'm trying not to, if I'm being honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I really I do very much want to call the

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Speaker 1: Heat frauds. But they had a great performance against the Trailblazers,

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Speaker 1: a good defense. They took it to the Cavs last night,

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Speaker 1: put up what they end up scoring one in overtime.

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Speaker 1: But still they were scoring very regularly, and like you're saying,

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Speaker 1: they're playing so fast, so they're doing it against good teams. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I have to buy in at this point. What do

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Speaker 2: I'm buying it. I think it's smart because they come

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Speaker 2: at you so many different ways. A guy can come

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Speaker 2: off the bench like Hima Hokis and just have that

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Speaker 2: single rule you mentioned him, the way he's able to

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Speaker 2: start possessions with that B line, gets into a spin

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Speaker 2: and scores, and so that's his role. That's what you

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Speaker 2: bunch of great scorers. I think last night, like Norman Powell,

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Speaker 2: what a steal that was in the offseason. Guy dropped

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Speaker 2: thirty three yesterday, No big deal, But I think he's

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Speaker 2: good enough to do that. I think Davion Mitchell is

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Speaker 2: confused by Sam Merrill being on the floor guarding Andrew Wiggins.

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Speaker 2: I know we're getting into the nitty gritty, but Andrew

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Speaker 2: Excuse me? Why not? Kenny Atkinson also was ejected from

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Speaker 2: this game, So maybe maybe that's why Johnny Bryant, I think,

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Speaker 2: the guy calling for Sam Merrill to stay on the floor.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming because he also called the timeout when Evan

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Speaker 2: Mobley hit a three to tide this thing in overtime,

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Speaker 2: but they called the timeout right before it, So I'm

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Speaker 2: blaming Johnny Bryant for that one as well. Instead they

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Speaker 2: But anyways, it was it was madness last night in nybe.

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Speaker 2: I was trying the multiview, as you said, Jason, but

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Speaker 2: it was too hectic even to even do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it just wait, I zoned it. I drilled down.

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Speaker 1: Did Yeah, if you want to get nitty gritty, why

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Speaker 1: are you not guarding the rim with point four seconds left?

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Speaker 1: That's not even very nitty.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that one.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of the only place he could really know.

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Speaker 2: I know, Sam. I bet Sam wouldn't. Any other person

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Speaker 2: I think he was just literally frozen when he got

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Speaker 2: that back pick. It was a good call, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, it was a beautiful play. I think afterwards Spolstra

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Speaker 1: gave Chris Quinn the credit, said, We've had this play

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Speaker 1: ready for four years. I didn't even have Andrew Wiggins

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Speaker 1: four years ago. So obviously it was for Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 1: a perfect pass from you know, and if you want

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Speaker 1: to get quoted from Spoe, yeah, exactly. That's why. That's

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Speaker 1: why he's one of the best man. He empowers everybody,

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Speaker 1: not just his players, but also his assistant coaches. Kenny Atkinson,

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Speaker 1: you should be doing the same with Johnny Bryant. Hold

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Speaker 1: Johnny Bryant to a higher standard. Say he had a

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Speaker 1: taller guy at the ren put a taller guy at

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Speaker 1: the inbounds position. Either of those and the Calves probably

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Speaker 1: win this game. But on the other side of things,

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Speaker 1: four straight wins for Cleveland before last night's loss, do

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, Because look, Jason, we know you're a

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Speaker 1: Knicks fan. These are two teams that could be buttoned heads.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about these Calves?

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Speaker 3: The Caves are obviously a threat in the East, the

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Speaker 3: after say top three, like who's really going to emerge

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Speaker 3: in what position. But Mitchell has been ridiculous, ridiculous in

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Speaker 3: this early part of the season, and they just like

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Speaker 3: have they have the continuity, they have a good coach,

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Speaker 4: Mobile's getting.

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Speaker 3: Despite early season, Wabbles is getting better and better, and

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Speaker 3: they're a very good team. They're a very good team,

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Speaker 3: very dangerous with just can explode on you in a second.

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Speaker 4: And Mitchell is a stud.

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Speaker 2: He's a stud.

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Speaker 4: He's so good.

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Speaker 2: He has a stud I think that guy that you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: Evan Mobley, as he's getting better here is the key

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Speaker 2: to this team. He needs to be relied on way more.

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Speaker 2: They've got to go to him more. He looked good

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Speaker 2: in the end of these four quarters. He was awesome

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Speaker 2: hitting that three in the block. But it's all up

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Speaker 2: to using him in those clutch situations. Now, Darius Carland

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Speaker 2: he left again. It's that toe injury that he had

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Speaker 2: surgery on. It seems like that same thing that's going on.

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Speaker 2: Is that the factor at this point. I don't think

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Speaker 3: In funch time, I agree, give Mobley the ball more.

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Speaker 3: He's certainly showing that he's got more more tools that

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Speaker 3: like in the MIDI area. I will say, and you

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Speaker 3: big minutes in an overtime game. Obviously, the Knicks don't

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Speaker 3: have TIBs anymore. But one of the kind of undercurrents

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Speaker 3: that I really enjoyed, particularly last night, was just seeing

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Speaker 3: the enemies of the Knicks play a lot of minutes,

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Speaker 3: play a lot of guys a lot of minutes, Cade

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Speaker 3: and going out there TIBs style. I enjoyed it, and

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Speaker 3: it listened that the regular season is attritional, and I

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Speaker 3: hope it attriates the other teams at.

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Speaker 1: Oh, You're getting into the tritty gritty. Who else do

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Speaker 4: The Cavaliers and enemies of the Nicks.

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Speaker 3: The Bucks or the enemies of the the Heat are

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Speaker 4: The Detroit Pistons, who.

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Speaker 3: You know, played us, played one of the one of

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Speaker 3: and are looking really dangerous, really good behind Cad Cunningham

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Speaker 4: They are.

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Speaker 3: They're an enemy in the next and man did they

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Speaker 3: what a game they had last night as well.

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Speaker 1: They've got a lot of enemies, probably because they're the

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Speaker 1: most despicable team in the history of the NBA, which

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Speaker 3: I how about the Bulls, and the Bulls are enemies now.

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Speaker 3: They've shown themselves this season to be at enemy level.

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Speaker 1: That's so nice to be back at enemy level one

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Speaker 1: and one on the season. We'll see how it transpires

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. But how are you

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Speaker 1: feeling about your Knicks? Mike Brown coming in the offense

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Speaker 1: is humming kind of right now. They are playing more guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Josh Hart taking naked photos behind og In Andobi and

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Speaker 1: Mitch Robinson. All this weird stuff's going on. They seem

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Speaker 1: to have a lot of chemistry together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. You can feel it kind of coming together.

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown wants them to make quick decisions, kind of

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Speaker 3: move the ball within the first second and a half

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Speaker 3: two seconds of getting in and it appears to be working.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson's assists are ticking up, and the whole team

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Speaker 3: feels like it's beginning to kind of like understand where

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Speaker 3: they can get their shots in the flow of it.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Josh Hart, who's six man, is kind of

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Speaker 3: the perfect role for him. Yeah, as much as Tom

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Speaker 3: Thibodeau loved just having him out there, he's currently out

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Speaker 3: there with with nerve damage but playing through it and

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Speaker 3: hitting shots and doing all the little things in the

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Speaker 3: perfect amount of minutes. I feel for his effect giveness.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned it like you need depth to really

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Speaker 3: the postseason and really kind of make an impact. And

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Speaker 3: the Knicks are steadily figuring out which guys can contribute

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Speaker 1: Clutch Dannis four threes in the fourth quarter. We did

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Speaker 2: He is cruising man.

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Speaker 1: No, that's not right. That's two games.

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Speaker 3: She cannot be right. I will say, shouts to the Wizards.

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Speaker 1: They don't know how he showed George threw him a

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Speaker 3: Basically, Yes, Keishawn George knows how to shoot, does not

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Speaker 4: But they have nice the Wizards.

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Speaker 3: Many mass fans of my life in the sense was

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Speaker 2: This is unprecedented. I don't remember it either, especially from

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Speaker 2: It felt like a moral victory the way they were

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Speaker 1: They're like, this is too late. Eleven games. We've waited

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Speaker 2: Well, PJ Washington went to the line and an attempt

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Speaker 1: Nico Chance may have had an effect on the game

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00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: and the loss with a PJ missing them at the

433
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: end there, but this is just like the biggest disaster

434
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: that could have possibly happened to a franchise that went

435
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: to the finals, what nineteen months ago. At this point, Jason,

436
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: what are you feeling about the Mavericks. I mean, obviously

437
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: this is not an unexpected move, but still pretty crazy

438
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: to fire your GM eleven games into the season.

439
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: It's a historical disaster, like a history making sports disaster.

440
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: And I will say that it's a for MAVs fans.

441
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 3: It is the kind of it's a story that defies

442
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 3: like the cycle, the cycle of news. You know, usually

443
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: especially during the regular season. You know, stuff happens, guys

444
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: get traded, things happen, but it's like after a week

445
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: or two, it's done again. I have MAVs fans in

446
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 3: my life. They have never stopped talking about it. They

447
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 3: have never stopped ruining the trade, They've never stopped wishing

448
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 3: to go would get fired. They've never stopped talking about

449
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: all the ways that it's hurt team, that it's hurt

450
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: them emotionally. And that is I've never really encountered a

451
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: situation like that that's unique. You know, as a Knicks fan,

452
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 3: we've yeah, there's been a million things over the last

453
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: two decades where you're like, oh my god, that Barnianni trade,

454
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: the Mellow trade, the rayvend Felton gun trade, stuff, like

455
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: a million things. But after a while, it's kind of over,

456
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: you know, whether it's three weeks, a month, the whole

457
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: half of the season, but then it's over. This is

458
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: not going to be over anytime soon. MAVs fans will

459
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: not stop hurting about this.

460
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: Certainly.

461
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: The Lakers are not helping things with the way they're playing,

462
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 3: and it's just that ab of the Lakers over kicking

463
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: their apparent coverage, as you know, as they're putting together

464
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: a season that's surprising, and the Dallas Mavericks just being

465
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: like a smoking crater with Clay being sent to the bench,

466
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: his shoulders slumped, Anthony Davis, you know, empty eyed from

467
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: the sideline and street closed, looking for anybody that can

468
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: give them five minutes at point guard.

469
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: It's just back. It's yeah, terrible. They're never going to

470
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: give it up. I'm a Bulls fan. And they bowed

471
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: their GM's widow thirty years after the fact, and that

472
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: was after winning six championships, So I don't necessarily think

473
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: MAVs fans are going to be quite forgiving. I'm sure

474
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: you saw going around online last night the eighteen year

475
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: old who came and sat next to Patrick Dumont and

476
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: apparently his dad told him he had to apologize to

477
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: Patrick Dumont for flipping him off during opening for trading him.

478
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: So that must have been a very convincing conversation from

479
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: Nicholas Dickinson and Patrick Dumont. Maybe that kid gets hired

480
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: as GM going forward. He's like, you got any plans? Nick?

481
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: It is? Is it within the fabric of every single

482
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: thing and in that arena though they have not stopped

483
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: talking about it. It just took them one missed free

484
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: throw to get back to it last night when PJ

485
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: Washington missed it. It is a part of them and

486
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: it's so it must be getting into Patrick Dumont's mind, culture, everything,

487
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 2: and he is a business person and so when they

488
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: made that purchase, business wasn't mine. And so now for

489
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 2: it to be it's nearly two years later since they

490
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: purchased the team, for it to be this part of

491
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: the culture that is a huge reason as to why

492
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: this is happening right now. I didn't expect it. I

493
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen at that press conference.

494
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: Can you see anything that will happen at this press conference? Jason,

495
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: do do you see any prediction here that's going to happen?

496
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: It is on execution from the governor.

497
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: I think if they have a I think if they

498
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: have some sort of like webcam in the room, camera

499
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 3: team in the room as Nico enters, sits down and

500
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 3: then Patrick fires him, I think that could help maybe

501
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: dispel some of the demons for for MAVs fans, don't

502
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 3: give them some sense of closure.

503
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 4: But I don't really know.

504
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: I don't really see anything. And I think what's really

505
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: notable too about these games, particularly last night when Cooper

506
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: You mentioned Cooper having his best game, and not only

507
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: his best game, but having some like moves where you're

508
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: like that will be on the career Cooper flag highlight reel,

509
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 3: like some of those spin moves down the stretch, Yeah,

510
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 3: big bucket on, big bucket on Yiannis to tie it.

511
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: I think.

512
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: Beautiful.

513
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

514
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: And the way the crowd the bipolar news because the

515
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: crowd was packed house. They're going crazy for Cooper when

516
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: he's all the things, he'd gone crazy for the team,

517
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: and then as soon as it goes bad, that passion flips.

518
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: That's Those are fans that love their team and are

519
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: just extremely hurt. And I don't again, I don't think

520
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: that hurts going away anytime soon for years and years

521
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: and years.

522
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: That's true. It's true. I was on their side. I thought,

523
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd is calling plays for Cooper flag with a

524
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: couple of minutes left, he got a switch on Ryan Rollins.

525
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: Oh he's smaller than him. Yeah, maybe we should be

526
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: running more of that stuff. And then going into the

527
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: body of an all time greading anaesthetic Kopo with thirty

528
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: seconds left, I thought, this is it. They are turning

529
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: this thing around. It sure felt like they beat the

530
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: Wizards on Saturday that this was starting to happen. But no,

531
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: that was quick, and I guess Patrick Dumont had made

532
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: the decision before this game against the Milwaukee Bucks that

533
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: they were firing Nico Harrison didn't. It didn't result as

534
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: a because of a loss.

535
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: There was a ton of reports yesterday from like Mark Stein,

536
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: Tim McMahon, Tim Cato basically everybody's saying, uh, the seed

537
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: is on fire right now. And then you know, they

538
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: got off to a lead and blew it and yeah,

539
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: and then Nikoline Dickerson sat down and said, you gotta go,

540
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: you gotta get rid of this.

541
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: Not to relitigate, but it is crazy as you start

542
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: to think about the details. They traded a generational guy

543
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: who's at worst the fourth best player in the NBA

544
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: for a injury riddled thirty two year old, and that

545
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: you're essentially marrying your team window to that, to that

546
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: aage profile, to that injury profile, pairing them with Kyrie,

547
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: a guy who's also struggled with injury throughout his career.

548
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: You're you essentially turn the team into a win now

549
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: team and you're not winning them no, and you, by

550
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: all appearances, you will not win now. Is now. There

551
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: is one hundred million dollars on the bench right that

552
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: will appear soon and the team will get better, But

553
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: it certainly does not seem like a team that you

554
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: can look at and think, Okay, we've got you know,

555
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: we can just assemble some pe. You don't have time

556
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: to assemble pieces. So it's a disaster. It's crazy, what

557
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: a disaster it is. It's insane.

558
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

559
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: Literally, Patrick Jamon Is like, yeah, we made a big

560
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: time mistake and it was nine months ago and we're

561
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: moving on. I wonder, like, well if they trade Anthony

562
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: Davis now, because Anthony Davis almost like a Nico Harrison guy, right, Like.

563
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is a precursor to a trade

564
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: of any Davis, right, because maybe Nico wasn't going to

565
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: do it. I don't think there was a world in

566
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: which Nico would agree to do it. So I think

567
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: I would expect clear the decks and let's rebuild around

568
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: Cooper fly. That just makes sense to do basketball wise.

569
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense unless you're the guy who traded

570
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: for Anthony Davis, in which case you can't do it.

571
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: But that's just unbelievable and unbelievable ten month run of

572
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: things that have happened to the Dallas Mavericks. We had

573
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: a lot more stuff in here. We can get to

574
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: it really quickly. Regulation game, Desmond Baine hit a twenty

575
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: seven footer, longest buzzer beater in Magic history. Nobody cares anymore.

576
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: Rough start for the Magic, But you think they can

577
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: turn things around going forward here, Jason.

578
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: I think they just need to figure out how to score.

579
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: I mean this is now a unique it's not a

580
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: unique take. Everything is too hard for them. If their

581
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: initial action does not result in a score, then they're

582
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: just kind of looking around, like, how do we do this?

583
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: How do we do this? How do we do this?

584
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: It feels like there's a level to be unlocked and

585
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: they have too much talent on that team to not

586
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: be better than they are. Yes brighter days, I would

587
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: expect to head for the magic or we might see

588
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: a seat heating up over there.

589
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: Definitely true.

590
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: It is so odd watching Pala bunkairen how talented he

591
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: is fly under the raid off for sure, but he

592
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: missed three free throws in the last twelve seconds of

593
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: this game, and he is just not morally, physically, mentally

594
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: all there. You could see him in press conferences the

595
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: day before leading into this game. He's just not right.

596
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: But the magic and shout out to Jamal Moseley and

597
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: we're naming coaches, were naming assistant coaches. But he had

598
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: two timeouts save for the end of this game, and

599
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: they came in handy for Desmond Bain, who might be

600
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: saving their freaking team after throwing the ball off and

601
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeka Kanway spiked it off him out with this game

602
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: winning shot. I mean, the Blazers had an inbound alley

603
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: oop with ten seconds left in this game, and that

604
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: was awesome, But it's going to go under the Raider

605
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: and maybe Desmond Bain helped turn this thing around for

606
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: the Magic. As Jason said, they need to be able

607
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: to score, and they have so much talent on that

608
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: freaking team.

609
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot of joy in their faces when that

610
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: band shot went on. I think it was his first

611
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: made three of the game, but they were letting him

612
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: initiate a bunch of the offense down the stretch. So

613
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: maybe things change going forward, but they did basically blow

614
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: at nine point lead within a minute. Yeah, in the

615
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: fourth quarterback because it looked ugly as well. Another team

616
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: that blew a laid to Chicago balls. They got Don

617
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: Touretto in this one, too soon Wemby back to back threes.

618
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: Second one had Vooch stumbling and bumbling. How high on

619
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: your ballot would you have Victor wembin Yama in the

620
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: MVP race right now?

621
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: Jay, Remember like sometime last week when I was like, oh,

622
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: they figured him out yepig.

623
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: They figured it out and maybe not.

624
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have him high up. It's absurd what

625
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: we're seeing. And he had some stuff against Vouch and

626
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 3: against against your bullsy in general, where you're just like, right,

627
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: what can you do when a seven foot five guy

628
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: pulls up in your face? What are you gonna do?

629
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?

630
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: But a seven foot five guy does like some steph

631
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: curry around the perimeter type, put you on skates stuff

632
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 3: and then pulls up. I don't know what you can

633
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: do about that. And that's when he had the slight

634
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: dip last week. Teams are putting smalls on. I'm kind

635
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: of meeting him early to try and get the ball

636
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: out of his hands and make him, you know, be

637
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: a playmaker. That kind of worked, get him in foul

638
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: trouble against the Lakers, that kind of worked. But the answer,

639
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: and I think he unleashed the answer against your team,

640
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: it was like more aggressive, take more shots, take more

641
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: shots deeper and spread it out like I'll be the

642
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: space maker. And that's it's terrifying watching him. I got

643
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: to see him in person last week, and it doesn't

644
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: you can't compute it. It doesn't make sense. It's crazy

645
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: to watch NBA players, the tallest people on earth react

646
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 3: to the height of a guy. You know, just be like, whoa,

647
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: look at the size of this guy.

648
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: If he moves.

649
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: Around, it's it's unreal. I mean, what do you would

650
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: Where do you have him on your ballot? Uh?

651
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: Like maybe third at the lowest. Like Sga is still

652
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: up there the thunder or rolling right now, he's scoring

653
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: thirty five every single night. Luca is in the and

654
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: then Wenby is right there. He's clearly the best defensive

655
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: player in the league. He's got this ninety five game

656
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: streak right now with a blocker more in a game,

657
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: and it was hilarious some of the blocks he had

658
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: against the Bulls, Like Vooch snuck in a floater on

659
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: him in the third quarter, so then he tried it

660
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: again into the fourth quarter and Wemby blocked it to

661
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: Atlanta pretty much, he just tossed it completely out. I

662
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: also think he shoots one hundred percent from three after

663
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: he blocks a shot, Like after he blocks a shot,

664
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm gonna take a three on the next possession,

665
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: and it always goes in. And he blocks a lot

666
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Speaker 1: of shots, so it adds up. But yeah, that was

667
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: he just dominated, and that's the Bulls have lost three

668
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: straight games, and it's been Donovan Mitchell dominates the fourth

669
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: quarter against the Cads, Giannis dominates the fourth quarter against

670
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: the Bucks, and then Wemby last night. It turns out

671
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: you have to have a superstar on your team to

672
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: win these games. Good way to get it as drafting

673
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: number one. I don't know if the Bulls are gonna

674
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: get there anyways. That was cool to see from Wemby.

675
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, those back to back threes that he hit with

676
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: a minute left, he just said his mind. He just

677
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: walked into one and then he made that that dribble

678
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: move as you're talking about Jason Deck. He just danced

679
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: with it. All right, I'm doing it again. Uh, and

680
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: I think one was off the block. You're you're totally

681
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: right about just the confidence in this guy. Once he

682
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: gets something going, it ain't fun. And there was that

683
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: same thing. I think it was the Bulls broadcasters who

684
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: were watching him stand beside Nikola Vucevic who were saying,

685
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: oh my god, he is large. Yeah, Booch looked tiny.

686
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: Took like a guard out there, and he's seven foot

687
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: to eighty or whatever size, he is hilarious, very fun.

688
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: What else do we got? Grayson Allen scored forty two

689
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: points last night? He had ten threes, completely completely overlooked.

690
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: Worst timing of all time to have forty two points

691
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: your career high. We had a million buzzer beaters, overtime games,

692
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: classic moments, Nico Harrison fired, and Grayson Allen's just like, yeah, man,

693
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: I made ten threes. Beat Crachi career high twenty eight points.

694
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Also bad timing, Jason. We got to ask everybody, do

695
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: you respect the NBA Cup? Year three?

696
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Speaker 3: Here, I'm having fun. Yeah, I'm having fun. I do

697
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 3: respect it. I I not ironically would love the Knicks

698
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: to win it starting off with the loss against your

699
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: sure gotta well that's not a great way to do it.

700
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: But but I do like it. I have some tweaks

701
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: that I would love. I think it's a little too early.

702
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: I think it pops up maybe two weeks too early.

703
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: Let people settle into the regular season, then kind of

704
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: like promote, promote, promote Cup, and then have it pop

705
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: up a little later. I feel like, but yes, I

706
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: semi respect it now, and your.

707
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: Respect a lot more if the Knicks bring it home I.

708
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: One hundred would respect it. Then it's legit. Then I'm like,

709
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: you know, what does hold on? I've come around this

710
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: big time.

711
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: Actually, wait a second, I'm having fun. That's all it's about,

712
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: as Jason. Yeah, that's all. That's what we're here for.

713
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: We're here for November and December fun when watching NBA basketball,

714
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: and it's become more fun. Some people hate the courts.

715
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: I get it. They're a little egregious, they're a little much.

716
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: But we're all having fun watching November December games.

717
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Speaker 1: I'm having fun. Yeah, also having fun with Survivor forty nine.

718
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: Who do you like this season?

719
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Speaker 3: Jason?

720
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Wow, you know what.

721
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 3: I don't know that there is a leader to emerge

722
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: yet for me, but I will say it's been a

723
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: whenever this is like a Survivor tell that things that

724
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: you're going to watch an episode that maybe is not

725
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: like the best episode of Survivor. Whenever something like the

726
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: sea snake bite happens where it's like not necessarily in

727
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: the flow of the game, and of course the the

728
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: show has to cover it, but then they keep covering

729
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: it like it goes you know, they're spending too long

730
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: and something like that that's how you know, Like, Okay,

731
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: not a lot happened gameplay wise, but gameplay is starting

732
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: to happen now as the teams have merged. I think

733
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Speaker 3: I'm feeling good now after last episode where you started

734
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: to see machinations, people playing in a way that feels

735
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: tactical and strategic. It's not just making a move to

736
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: make a big move, but it's making a big move

737
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: to try and do something. I'm not a fan of

738
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: three tribes, and that makes the early part of Survivor

739
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: tough for me. I feel like, and it happened this season,

740
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: what ends up happening is one team just gets dog walked,

741
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: one tribe just gets dog walked, and it's not I

742
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: don't think the most compelling kind of Survivor. I want

743
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 3: to see more back and forth. So now that we're

744
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: in a more settled state of the game, I like it.

745
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: As for frontrunners, I don't know that I have anybody yet.

746
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: What do you guys think?

747
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: I like Sophie b but that's just because I picked

748
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: her preseason and she seems to be doing okay so far.

749
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, it doesn't feel like we have

750
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: necessarily the winner. Edit out there yet, or somebody that

751
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: you think is going to absolutely be the victor, the

752
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: sole survivor at the end, but you're totally right. The

753
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: three tribes makes for pre merged can sometimes be a

754
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: bit of a snoozer, but it's a great time to

755
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: get in. Now we got to the merge. This is

756
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: like we've moved on from the group stage of the

757
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Cup to the knockout rounds. It's a lot more exciting.

758
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: Last thing I want to ask you about, Jason, tell

759
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: us a little bit about Offside, your new venture.

760
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 2: Oh.

761
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: Offside is a sports app, a social media sports app

762
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: that I'm consulting for that I'm helping, you know, create

763
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 3: along with some other creators.

764
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 4: And the goal is to just make.

765
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Speaker 3: Kind of the to kind of unify some of the

766
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 3: fragmented experience around following sports. You know, I think we've

767
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: all had that thing where it's like a game just

768
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 3: ended and maybe you're out to dinner and you couldn't

769
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: see it, and so you want to see the highlights,

770
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 3: but you got to wait for the highlights to come up,

771
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: and the gamer is not up, and you're trying to

772
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: find the stats but they're not posted yet, and you

773
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: want to maybe you'd love if one of your YouTube

774
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 3: people that you follow Team Central YouTube people like would

775
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: put up something, but it's not up yet. How do

776
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: you go one place to find all the things that

777
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: you want to find out about games? That just ended

778
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: about about upcoming games. It's that's what Offside seeks to

779
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: do to make it easier for creators to create stuff

780
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 3: and make it easier for fans of teams to find

781
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Speaker 3: the stuff that they need.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and last night was the night to do it

783
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: and the breakdown.

784
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 4: And last night was the night.

785
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: Last that was the night. Yeah, Andrew Wigan's Allie was

786
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 2: broken down by mode to Quielle, frame by frame, step

787
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: by step, and that's the thing that people need more of.

788
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: I think if Alex Caruso knew of Offside, or if

789
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: he knows about Side, he would celebrate it because he

790
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: was the guy that said last year people just need to,

791
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: you know, appreciate basketball again. And that's what these plays are,

792
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: That's what it's about. It was fun.

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00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got some great names working alongside you too.

794
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: Kofe's there, mo like said Anthony or Wyn. I'm sure

795
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: Kirk serious face, Kirk Henderson is going to be going

796
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: nuts with all the news. Oh yeah, he's gonna be

797
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: big mad. Gonna be big mad. That's join offside right

798
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Speaker 1: as the handle. Yes on socials, Jason, thanks so much

799
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: for joining us, man, this is really fun. Good to

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Speaker 1: talk hoops with you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Take it easy.

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Speaker 2: Back with No Dunks. It was fun talking to Jason

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Speaker 2: about all that ball all that ball breaking news. We're

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Speaker 2: eight minutes from the final meeting of Nico Harrison's Dallas tenure. Yeah,

836
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: I was gonna make the call. I thought about texting

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00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: everybody here and saying, should we just drop say what

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Speaker 2: and just watch this Nico Harrison press conference live here

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Speaker 2: on No Dunks. I mean, we will probably be reporting

840
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: on it yesterday, but first we got to get to that.

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Speaker 2: Say what, because it is a classic No Dunks. Let's

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00:45:53,320 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: get to it, SA, Say what is a segment where

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Speaker 2: we will recite a conversation that two NBA broadcasters had,

844
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: or maybe they didn't. We might be making it up.

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00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: So Trey, you are going to tell j D and

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00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: I who will be acting these out if it's real

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Speaker 2: or not. Our first one is the Pelicans Joel Myers

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Speaker 2: and Antonio Daniels. They're playing the Charlotte Hornets in this

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Speaker 2: particular scenario. I will be Joel Myers and j D

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Speaker 2: will be Antonio Daniels. Yeah, he's playing high percentage above

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Speaker 2: the rim. He's got thirteen points.

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Speaker 4: So that's his sixth dunk.

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Speaker 2: He's five of six, make it six of seven overall.

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Speaker 4: Spilled some ice on the floor.

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Speaker 2: M Spillage is better than shrinkage. Three point game, minute

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Speaker 2: thirty five to play. Where did that come from? Where

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00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: did that come from? What does that have to do

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Speaker 2: with setting you up? I'm setting you up? What does

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Speaker 2: that have to do with anything? It's just.

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Speaker 4: You've got some serious issues.

861
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: Man, Pels only down by three, and it's been a

862
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: strange third quarter. They got smoke to start the third.

863
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: All right, who's the guilty party over there? Those guys

864
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: are having too much fun. Look at that group, oh man,

865
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: the guys that had the spillage.

866
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm not falling for your banana and

867
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: the tailpipe, Joel, I'm not falling for this.

868
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm not falling for this. Is that a skins and

869
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: shirts game coming up? No, it's not.

870
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: Nobody plays shirts and skins anymore, Joel.

871
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: Fifty seconds left in the third you and your.

872
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: Games with doctor Nay Smith. Those games don't happen anymore.

873
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: Trey Man and scene. That's the end of a conversation

874
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: between Joel Myers and Antonio Daniels during a Pelican's broadcast

875
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: where there was some spillage or some shrinkage, depending on

876
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 2: how you look at it. What do you think trade

877
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 2: did that actually happened to actually happen during a game? Man?

878
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: I was convinced it was real all the way up

879
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: until banana and the tailpipe, and it went in the

880
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: shirts and skins as well. There's a lot, it's a

881
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: lot to throw against the wall. But these guys are

882
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: pretty funny together. Antonio Daniels to me is like, I

883
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: don't know if this is fake, but he's like my

884
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: favorite probably my favorite color guy to listen to. I

885
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: just love the I love the way broadcasts and he's

886
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: a great combo with Joel Myers. I'll say this one's real.

887
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: Is it real?

888
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 1: JD?

889
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: Is it real? Yes?

890
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 2: Yes, it's real. You call it, You called it. Let's

891
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 2: hear the actual conversation between Joe and Antonio Daniels. Yeah,

892
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: he's playing high percentage above the rim. He's got thirteen points.

893
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 4: That's a six.

894
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: Time is five of SiGe making six is seven overall.

895
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: Spill some ice on the floor.

896
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: M spillage is better than shrinkage. Three point game met

897
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: at thirty five to play?

898
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 4: Where did that come from?

899
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: Where did that come from?

900
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: What does that happen to?

901
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm I'm setting you up. I'm setting up.

902
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: What does it have to do with anything?

903
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 4: It's just you got you got some serious issues, all right?

904
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: Who's the goalty party over there? Those guys are having

905
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: too much fun. Look at that group.

906
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: Oh man, oh man, they look like they're they're in

907
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: the gym a lot playing pick up.

908
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: Those four guys have the spillage.

909
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not falling for your banana and tail my

910
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: right now to him, I'm not.

911
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm not falling for this.

912
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: Fine, I don't call it skins and shirts game coming up.

913
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: No, it was not. Nobody put scans anymore, Joe, ninety

914
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: seconds left in the thirty you and your games. But

915
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: doctor NASONI don't don't happen anymore.

916
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is surprising when you hear about it. Even

917
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: though I edited this thing out, it was just so

918
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: good we did it, I think, which what played a

919
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: part in you being skeptical if they jumped to the

920
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: tailpipe and banana in the tail pipe was that we

921
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: cut out like twenty minutes in the middle. So it

922
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: did jump real quickly to shirts and skins. And yes

923
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: we had to we had to make it a little shorter,

924
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: but you're right, Antonio Daniels, it was just on point.

925
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 2: Joel Myers. I didn't drop into the deep voice, Jol Myers.

926
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: But there's a perfect matches I think for doing a

927
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: Joel Myers Antonio Daniels booth. Between between both your voices,

928
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: they sound very very similar to too Far Up. I

929
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: also think Antonio Daniels is right, nobody plays shirts and skins.

930
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: I'll occasionally play a pickup game wearing no shirt and

931
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: people hate it. Nobody wants to be here and I'm

932
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: running around there with no shirt off. I don't know

933
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: why it's helpful. Yeah, yeah, you're slippery. I mean I'm sweaty,

934
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: so you just burning off guys. That's a good one.

935
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: I thought I remember the spillage versus shrinkage part, but

936
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: no that it just keeps going.

937
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: It did fly under the radar a little bit thanks

938
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: to Sheehan Paris hit me up on the IG. So

939
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 2: hit us up on No Dunk's Good one Instagram account.

940
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 2: Anytime you find something that is hilarious like that. All right,

941
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: our next one here and our last one. We're going

942
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: to make this a quick one. This is the Hawks,

943
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: Bubb Wrathman and Dominique Wilkins. So this is Hawks versus Thunder.

944
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm Bob Rathman. JD is the Legend, Dominique Wilkins two.

945
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: And it is left in the game. Quinn Snyder is

946
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: clearing the bench. Caleb Houston making his season debut for

947
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: the Hawks.

948
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 4: We haven't seen him play yet, but I know, but

949
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 4: I know he can't shoot.

950
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: Well, that was a type on my part. He can't shoot.

951
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: That's my bib can't shoot. Yeah, that's my that's my mistake.

952
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 2: Let me redo it. Yeah.

953
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: OK.

954
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 4: We haven't seen him play yet, but I know he

955
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 4: can shoot.

956
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: We'll see if Quinn Snyder can set up a three

957
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: point shot for him. Mick, do coaches design plays for

958
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 2: players in garbage time?

959
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you, Bob, I never played in garbage time.

960
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 4: I know he can really shoot.

961
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 2: Caleb Houston joins Jacob Toppin. No type other thanky, Yeah,

962
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: calebhughs enjoyed Jacob Toppin and Fley Dante, Keaton, Wallace and

963
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 2: Viet Crachi on the floor.

964
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: You know, Bob, I think Quinn should set him up

965
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 4: for a shot.

966
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: Yes, Nick, I agree. Here's Wallace drives inside, tries to

967
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: throw it up with so many bodies around him, He's blocked,

968
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 2: ball is out of bounce.

969
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 4: That defense really shrunk around him, Bob.

970
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: It was shrinking quickly.

971
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 4: Have you seen the show shrinking?

972
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: Bob shrinking? Did you mean shrinkage? That's not a show, Bob. Oh,

973
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: you're right, Brooks. Barnheiser is going to the line for

974
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: two Barnheiser is really big, Nick, How is your throat?

975
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: You know you can shut off your mic when you

976
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: have to cough. The button is not working. That's why

977
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: I've been holding my farts all game. And seen man,

978
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: did that conversation between Bob Rathman and Dominique Wilkins actually happen?

979
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: Or or my typos? And this whole script fabricated?

980
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: I I no. On one hand, I believe that Dominique

981
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: Wilkins could be coughing through a broadcast. Yeah hear, I'm

982
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: clear his throat from time to time, also repeating himself

983
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: about Caleb Houston. Believable to me. But what a guy

984
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: like Tom Wilkins say he's holding in his farts? I think, Yes,

985
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: this one's real?

986
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: Is it real? JD?

987
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: I got you the farts.

988
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: I was surprised.

989
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: Now.

990
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: I did throw in all of those throats clearing moments

991
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: because Dominique has been doing that this year. We mentioned

992
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: it actually on an earlier show. But then we did

993
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: a call back with the shrinking shrinkage. I thought that

994
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: was a bit of a reveal.

995
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's the right generations right to be to

996
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: re referening shrinkage.

997
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: Pretty funny the details.

998
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know to expect such detailed work

999
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: getting the coughs in there, because that's sold me.

1000
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: It was all the cops, very very funny. All right,

1001
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: that our fun fun segment here, Just a quick one,

1002
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: just a quickie, good, just quick yeah, good. It works

1003
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: out perfectly with all this news. We got to get

1004
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: to watching the Nico Harrison press conference immediately after this game,

1005
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: but first let's get to our pick them.

1006
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, none of to loss last night, Tassy. I was

1007
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: with you on the Bucks. They were minus two and

1008
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: a half point favorites.

1009
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: They won.

1010
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Bucks did win in the Nico h Harrison

1011
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: retirement match, but they only won by two points. And

1012
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, yeah, Jannis had that dunk like

1013
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: two thirds of the way through the fourth quarter where

1014
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: he missed the shot from the top, followed his shot

1015
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: grabs the boards, went for a big jam and missed it.

1016
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: That's what I blame. Oh really, yeah, because they had

1017
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: a lot of momentum right then. I feel like if

1018
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: he throws that down, it was maybe it was maybe

1019
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: like a five point game at that point. That would

1020
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: have put him up seven. I think if I don't

1021
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: know if that's exactly right, but around there and I

1022
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: think if he throws down that dunk, think really quiets

1023
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: the crowd. Maybe the Bucks go on to win this

1024
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: by a more significant margin than they did and end

1025
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: up being a momentum play the other way for the Mavericks.

1026
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: The fire Nico chance got to PJ Washington.

1027
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: That two and a half point line was ridiculous, only

1028
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: covered by a weird PJ. Washington foul and going to

1029
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: the free throw line to hit that extra free throw.

1030
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 2: It shouldn't have even been a foul. That's why this

1031
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: line it swung a little bit. We had it written

1032
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: as a closer line than two points. But yeah, when

1033
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: Yannis is scoring fifteen to the of his thirty points

1034
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 2: in the fourth courter, I thought it was over. Out

1035
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: here they come, they're rolling, but the maps this was Honestly,

1036
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 2: I know it was lost, but it felt like the

1037
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: best game of season. I thought Nico would get another day,

1038
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: but nope, it's all over. So we got a big

1039
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 2: line tonight, Yeah, really big line. We don't use these

1040
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: quite often. Thunder at home to the Golden State Warriors

1041
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: have a seven and a half point favorite, and I

1042
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: guess I'm going to continue my terrible month. I'm taking

1043
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: the Warriors thinking that they'll keep it close. Steph Curry

1044
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 2: definitely planning on being back finally after that illness to

1045
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 2: play the Thunder, who I assume will just keep them

1046
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: somewhat close. The Warriors will keep them somewhat close in

1047
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: a seven point game, but you guys feel the Thunder.

1048
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: Ewn Skeets are taking the Thunder to win by eight more.

1049
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Thunder have started winning some games by big margins lately,

1050
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: and the Warriors are looking a little rickety to me.

1051
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: They haven't had a very good win in like the

1052
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks. The first week of the season

1053
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: was their biggest week so far in my book. But

1054
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: that just kind of means they need to perform. So

1055
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: we'll see. We'll see what we get from Golden State.

1056
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: But I'm confident. Okay, so you can win this by

1057
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: ten points or whatever. They only need to win by

1058
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: eight for a win. For me and Skeets, we're both

1059
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: at four and two. Task it at zero to six

1060
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: right now. It's still it's still early. Man's sort of

1061
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: the second week and a half into the pick up

1062
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I still think there's time to come back.

1063
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: Thanks man, you're welcome.

1064
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: You're welcome. We got the full squad back in the factory.

1065
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: Tomorrow is going to be another busy Wednesday. No dunks

1066
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: ten a m. Eastern, Bawls are back on playback three

1067
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: pm Eastern, and we got Survivor tomorrow night.

1068
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll be jumping on playback tomorrow night too,

1069
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: right for a little bit of fun because there's some

1070
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: great games. There's a playback organized. Hey, let's make games

1071
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: accessible and affordable going on tomorrow night, so we'll get

1072
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: to that as well.

1073
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's their big day what they call it.

1074
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: But it's a big day.

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00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I forgot to get the get the games out,

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Speaker 1: that's what the people are saying, get the games out.

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Speaker 1: Five straight losses for the Clippers, I believe after the

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Speaker 1: loss of the Hawks last night. Nonetheless, Clipper bros, have

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Speaker 1: you heard here, have a great time turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember, fortune favors the bold,

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Speaker 2: in the words of Nico Harrison. Sometimes sometimes I guess

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Speaker 2: that's true, Nico. Sometimes fortune does not favor the bold,

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Speaker 2: unfortunately for Nico.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, embrace the day. People