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429
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Speaker 1: when the offense looks terrible. Now, their offense, they didn't

430
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Speaker 1: just lose forty seven to nine because their routes aren't crisp.

431
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Speaker 1: But I don't think Troy's just making that up. It's

432
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Speaker 1: like it's hard to play quarterback when you don't exactly

433
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Speaker 1: know where people are gonna go, and then they start

434
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Speaker 1: bitching and moaning you're not throwing the ball. So these

435
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Speaker 1: some of these things, you know, drip drip, drip. If

436
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Speaker 1: you'r Mike, you better fix some of this shit. Because

437
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Speaker 1: Jerry's old. Now he's edgy. I I am still a

438
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Speaker 1: little I How do I want to put this. I

439
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: don't quite believe that they've just been winning games. They're

440
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Speaker 1: playing a home game. I want to say, a good opponent,

441
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Speaker 1: a talented opponent. They haven't been good because they haven't

442
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Speaker 1: been winning games. But this opponent you have to take

443
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Speaker 1: seriously in the Jets, and you're just gonna start. Russell

444
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Speaker 1: Wilson a guy who literally got injured I think a

445
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Speaker 1: couple of days right before training camp because he was

446
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Speaker 1: doing some training method that hurt his calf, so he

447
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Speaker 1: has been missed a ton of training camp. Obviously, he's

448
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Speaker 1: been in and out of practice up until the last

449
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And you're just gonna throw them out

450
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Speaker 1: there against the Jets in a pretty big game, like

451
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: this is a game if you're Tomlin and you're the Steelers,

452
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: you can kind of put a nail in their coffin

453
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Speaker 1: and dance a little bit on their grave on Sunday

454
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Speaker 1: Night football the most watched television show in America, and

455
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Speaker 1: you're just gonna roll out Russell Wilson in that environment.

456
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: I started thinking today it actually probably would be easier

457
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Speaker 1: to start Russell Wilson on the road if this is

458
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Speaker 1: really gonna happen. And I'm still very very i would say,

459
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Speaker 1: hesitant to believe this. I think this is more gamesmanship

460
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Speaker 1: with a first time head coach, a guy that's also

461
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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator who's kind of learned on the fly.

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Speaker 1: It's basically fucking with him, hoping to make him spend

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Speaker 1: a couple extra hours every night, make him a little

464
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Speaker 1: more tired, make them feel a little more overwhelmed. But

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Speaker 1: I've follow enough people that like I don't think that

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Speaker 1: there's not a possibility. This isn't real, especially if he's

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Speaker 1: actually taken first team reps. I think if you do

468
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Speaker 1: it at home and then the offense looks terrible and

469
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: he's a sitting duck back there and it's dink and

470
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Speaker 1: dunk kind of strategy that he's implemented these last couple

471
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Speaker 1: of years, away Russell Wilson's plate is not working, the

472
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Speaker 1: fans would freak out. They would immediately start booing and

473
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Speaker 1: chanting for Justin Fields. So I actually think the easiest

474
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Speaker 1: way to do it would be if you did want

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Speaker 1: to go to Russell, start Justin if the offense was bad,

476
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Speaker 1: then make a change, and with you paying both these

477
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Speaker 1: guys one million dollars, that feels like the most likely scenario. Again,

478
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Speaker 1: where I stand right now Thursday night, my guess would

479
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Speaker 1: be that Tomlin has been messing with the Jets and

480
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Speaker 1: that Justin Fields will be the starter. But then you

481
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Speaker 1: see Justin Fields being asked about this question during the

482
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Speaker 1: week and giving a very very mature answer but saying like, yeah,

483
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Speaker 1: if it does happen, I didn't play well enough. So

484
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Speaker 1: maybe they've been on him hardcore in the meetings in

485
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Speaker 1: the film room. So who knows. But I have a

486
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Speaker 1: hard time closing my eyes and seeing Russell Wilson, who

487
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Speaker 1: has not played a snap this season, who's missed the

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Speaker 1: majority of practices so far since training camp started. Starting

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Speaker 1: on Sunday night against the Jets, who are listen, I'm

490
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Speaker 1: not a believer, but you'd have to be naive to

491
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Speaker 1: think that you're not gonna get a very very strong

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Speaker 1: effort from the guys, and Russell's gonna beat that. Now

493
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying like I feel great, I'm gonna bet

494
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: the Steelers, but even Justin Field's beating that. But at

495
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he can just take off

496
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Speaker 1: and to me, Russell, like the running days are over,

497
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Speaker 1: so he's got to pick you apart. Well, they're not

498
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: exactly rolling out Plexico bursts and Antonio Brown right now.

499
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Speaker 1: So now my hope is I just think the Jets thing.

500
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Speaker 1: It's I said it last week, been saying it all

501
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Speaker 1: this week. It's got this NBA feel to it. You know.

502
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: In the NBA, it's like they love claiming their player friendly,

503
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Like Lebron loves shitting on owners that treat players shitty,

504
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: and then he just treats any teammate that he thinks

505
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Speaker 1: isn't good enough the moment he can upgrade like shit

506
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: as well. He treats them exactly like an owner or

507
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: GM would. And that's what Aaron Rodgers did this week

508
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: to Mike Williams, who the Jets I'm pretty sure gave

509
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Speaker 1: eight million dollars to this offseason, who's coming off of

510
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Speaker 1: major injury, who may never be the same. But Rogers

511
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: crushed him for not running the wrong or the right

512
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Speaker 1: route at the end of the Bills game, which I

513
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Speaker 1: have no issue with. Everyone's like, you can't you can

514
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Speaker 1: say whatever you want. Did he run the wrong route?

515
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: Or do we have to fake it? Does he have

516
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Speaker 1: to see it like yeah, I don't really want to

517
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Speaker 1: talk about it, or can't he be like, yeah, I

518
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Speaker 1: shouldn't have thrown it and Mike Williams ran the wrong route?

519
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: Because if that's what's happened, isn't that what we always

520
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: want to know, like what actually happened? And football is

521
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: the one sport it's like, well, unless you know the plays,

522
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: unless you know where he's supposed to go, unless you

523
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: know the hot rout, unless you know the checks, unless

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Speaker 1: you know the coverages. No, Aaron literally told you he

525
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: did the wrong fucking thing, which happens all the time

526
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. But then a day later they trade

527
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Speaker 1: for DeVante and then this guy's just been missing for

528
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: personal reasons. Obviously. I saw Schreker's like he's he's available

529
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Speaker 1: in trade. Well, I got news free and no one's

530
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Speaker 1: gonna want this guy at eight million dollars. No one's

531
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Speaker 1: trading for him. Absolutely, maybe in the USFL, but that

532
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Speaker 1: those leagues or those teams in that league couldn't afford it.

533
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Speaker 1: So I this is where if I'm the Steelers, I

534
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: try to get on these guys early and try to

535
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Speaker 1: get them to crack because they got so much going on.

536
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: You got some other big games like Houston, Green Bay, Right, Lions, Minnesota, Niners, Chiefs,

537
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Speaker 1: like one of these teams could get down early and

538
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: come back like they're all just normal squads, right, good squads,

539
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: good players. This Jets thing one has been a ticking

540
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: time bomb since the training camp started, But with every

541
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Speaker 1: day that went by this week, it's like more and

542
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: more's going on. That's why I hope Tomlin, who really

543
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: good at having a feel for a squad and when

544
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Speaker 1: to push the right Buttons doesn't screw this up and

545
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: give the Jets an opening. Okay, back at it again

546
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Speaker 1: with my main man from the Action Network. You can

547
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: hear him on Big Bets on Campus, hear him on

548
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: the Action Network podcast. Find him on YouTube do a

549
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: little six pack every week. He's he's he likes to gamble.

550
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: I like to gamble. That's why we talk gambling. I

551
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: I gotta be I gotta be real with everybody. I'm

552
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Speaker 1: feeling a lot better this Thursday than I did last night.

553
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Speaker 1: I was. I was struggling. I had a late night

554
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: and Thursday was not kind to me. But I battled

555
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Speaker 1: it out. But I feel good a week later. A

556
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Speaker 1: lot of boozing in the town of Nashville, in the

557
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Speaker 1: in the South, and you know, Stucky, how are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Good? Brother, Glad that you had a nice trip, and yeah, Nashville,

559
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: we'll definitely do that to you. Had a great one

560
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Speaker 3: of those weekends where I had a great weekend in

561
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Speaker 3: college one almost everything and then gave it all back

562
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Speaker 3: in the NFL. Actually I preferred that way. I mean,

563
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Speaker 3: I prefer to win in both days, but instead of

564
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Speaker 3: losing all day Saturday and then getting it back on

565
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: Sunday if you're gonna just because the Saturday college football

566
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: sweat is longer and there's so many more games. And

567
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: but yeah, I as someone who searches for underdogs unders

568
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: more often than not in the NFL, definitely not the

569
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Speaker 3: best weekend for me to be bet in the NFL.

570
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: It was the first time since the merger that road

571
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Speaker 3: favorites went nine to zero against the spread. So very

572
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: chalky weekend.

573
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Speaker 1: And but when and when you say merger, you mean

574
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Speaker 1: AFL nineteen seventy, so it's it's been.

575
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Speaker 3: A while last weekend ever since nineteen seventy four road favorites.

576
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: So definitely a chalky weekend. So but lood for it.

577
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: And it was a boring the college football state was

578
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 3: so exciting that NFL Sunday sucks was the worst I

579
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Speaker 3: could ever remember. I mean, what was the most exciting game?

580
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Speaker 1: It was? It was bad. It was really really bad.

581
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Speaker 3: It was in my exciting moments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It might have been this morning game

583
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Speaker 1: just because you got like as Doug Peterson canna get

584
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Speaker 1: fired on the field. I no, I don't know, You're right,

585
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: it was. It was horrendous slate of ball for well,

586
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: part of it is a lot of the good teams

587
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: weren't bye weeks right, so you had, you know, Minnesota,

588
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the forty nine ers had just played. You

589
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: guys in theory were playing a big game. But Washington,

590
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: I I I commend them. They're much better than I

591
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: thought they would be. But it was one of those

592
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: games where never once did it cross your mind the

593
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Ravens could lose this game. But it was entertaining watch.

594
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Speaker 1: But other than that, it was like I just I refused,

595
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Speaker 1: you know, I got a big TV setup, like probably

596
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: you do too. I was like the Colts Titans, I

597
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Speaker 1: don't have. I don't care about that. It's just not

598
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: getting a box, like I just don't care, you know.

599
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Speaker 1: It's just and I think as the season goes, you

600
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Speaker 1: start getting some of those like to me, the Giants

601
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: now become like I don't need to watch you anymore,

602
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: but this week you play the Eagles, I gotta keep

603
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: tabs on you. But if it was like Giants Titans,

604
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, or Dolphins Paths or even the Sunday game

605
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: for those of us that live on the West Coast beside,

606
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: I can just watch Drake May highlights after the game.

607
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: What do I need to watch two? I mean horrendous football.

608
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Speaker 1: I mean I would imagine they're both gonna be top

609
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Speaker 1: four drafting teams, the Jag in the Patriots. I guess

610
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: the Jags could rattle off a couple of wins throughout

611
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Speaker 1: the season, but pretty doubtful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they could. I mean, it's it's bleak. I mean,

613
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Speaker 3: we give London that game last week and then it

614
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: was an all ended up being an awful game. Then

615
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Speaker 3: we give them Pats Jags this week. It is a

616
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Speaker 3: good spot for the Jags just because they're used to

617
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: London especially and now they are adjusted. Last year they

618
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Speaker 3: blew out the Bills in this spot. So and then

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Speaker 3: you know, the Patriots have a first time head coach,

620
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Speaker 3: first time quarterback going there. But the Jags might just

621
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Speaker 3: be in quit mode. They they they could end up

622
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Speaker 3: with a top pick because they might end up they

623
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Speaker 3: might end up with trading people. They might end up

624
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Speaker 3: trading like the tradable. Yeah, so Evan Ingram, they traded

625
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: one of their defensive linemen to Seattle this week, so

626
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Speaker 3: it might end up being a fire sail there in

627
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: a division that looks over for Houston. So so yeah,

628
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: it could get ugly in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Well before we dive into the NFL. Do you know

630
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Speaker 1: what sucks? And it's pretty clear I guess back to

631
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Speaker 1: the NFL, they are doing this like there's gonna be

632
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Speaker 1: a package. I would guess ten to twelve games every

633
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: year that morning kickoff. Like I don't know who's I

634
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: get why they're doing it for just more money, but

635
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: like that's gonna become a thing, like they're getting more

636
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: and more aggressive. I didn't realize how I looked at

637
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: the schedule yesterday, did you know? I mean you would

638
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: know this doubleheader Monday night, but the second game is later,

639
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing for those of you guys

640
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: that live on the East goes the kick doesn't kick

641
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: off till six, but there's already a game going on.

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Speaker 1: So I not only are we gonna have this morning

643
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: Sunday package, which is inevitable in the future as like

644
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: like it's equivalent to like a Thursday package, we are

645
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: also clearly they are dabbling in this Monday double header

646
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: like that is they're getting more and more aggressive. That's

647
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: something that are we gonna have half the week's gonna

648
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: have a double head because that that feels like we're we'reheaded,

649
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: doesn't it.

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00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, or we're going to see or it could be end,

651
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: or we're going to see more Friday games.

652
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: Aren't they legally not allowed to do that.

653
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they only can do it before a certain date.

654
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 3: You're right, at which the NFL, of course, they found

655
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: that loophole. There's a there's a the NFL will probably

656
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: find a way to get this change. But I think

657
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: that there's a law that protects hi staball protects high

658
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: school football and college all on Friday nights. But it

659
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 3: says like it's the starts from the third or second

660
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Speaker 3: Friday in September until a certain date, which is why

661
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: the NFL was able to squeeze the What was that

662
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: I think the Packers.

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00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Brazil game Friday night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they squeezed it in like the day before that

665
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: that deadline started. So yeah, you might be right if

666
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: they can't get that change. So yeah, I think that

667
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: that's where we're headed. I don't even I mean, my

668
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: I got I have to start winning more bets because

669
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 3: I got to afford all my cable bills. I mean,

670
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 3: I have cable the packages that I paid for for

671
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: all the different streaming services. My wife wanted to watch

672
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: the show last night and I was like, I pay

673
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: for every single streaming service we have. You have to

674
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: have it. She says, no, you don't. It's on n

675
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: MGM plus. I'm like, all right, just sign up for it.

676
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even know what this is, but

677
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: now I have an MGM plus. Uh so yeah, and

678
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: then to get all the sports packages. It's insane. I

679
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: have YouTube TV for NFL Red Zone two, so it's crazy.

680
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: And yeah, this is where we're head at. The NFL

681
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: wants to take over every single time stoting day possible.

682
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: It's uh yeah, it's they. They know that we're addicts.

683
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I was sitting there. I had no

684
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: money on the Jets Bills game. Yeah, the Jets Bills

685
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: game on Monday night one of the worst officiated games

686
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. Jesus watch. I couldn't turn it off

687
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 3: and just it was it was a bad product that night.

688
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 3: Couldn't turn it off.

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Speaker 1: So you know where, you know where it hit me

690
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: was not Sunday because at the end of the day,

691
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: it is Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers. It was or Monday.

692
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: It was Sunday night, the Giants first the Bengals in

693
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: just a horrendous game, and I realized I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, if I was selling insurance or I was

695
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: a farmer or doing something, I would still be watching this.

696
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: I have the sickness in me, and in a weird way,

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00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: I kind of enjoyed it. Like there were a couple

698
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: of plays I'm like, that was sweet, and it was

699
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: It's like, why am I doing this to myself? Like

700
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: I the Bills Monday Night football has been You and

701
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: I are similar age. I mean, such a big deal

702
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: growing up. It means a lot to me. But the

703
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Sunday night game, like when you get certain matchups, you

704
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: get Ravens, Chiefs or you know whatever, it feels incredible.

705
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: But then they they every once in a while they

706
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: throw you a curve ball. You're like, what are they

707
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: doing to me? And then I find myself just enthralled

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00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: as I did. I'm like, is Brian dave Ball gonna

709
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: pull this off? Could Danie Jones lead him on a

710
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: drive as fucking Joe Burrow was up with the offense.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's a.

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Speaker 1: Sickness, you know, we all have. Uh, let's just stick

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00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: with the NFL. We'll get to college a little later.

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Speaker 1: Let's go with the What's What's sad is the headline

715
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: game because they are just taking up all the oxygen

716
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: like they're the Dallas Cowboys or something. The New York Jets,

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00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: you know, I love the Bills. Last week, I don't know.

718
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: I think the game. Did the game end up closing

719
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: it three? I think it originally opened to like two

720
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: and a half, so they still covered. And listen, I

721
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: think if you really look at it, that swing in

722
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Speaker 1: the middle of the game that they score, they're up ten,

723
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Speaker 1: then he hits a fucking hail Mary, right, and then

724
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Speaker 1: they get the ball, and then they drive down the

725
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: field and then they miss a field goal. If he

726
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: misses the hail Mary and the fucking guy just hits

727
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: a field goal like that, there's a ten point swing

728
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: in the middle of the game, and it's probably unravels

729
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: and said it goes the other way and somehow the

730
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Speaker 1: Jets get a swing. I don't think the Jets are

731
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Speaker 1: that good now. DeVante, who like Amari Cooper, clearly quit

732
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Speaker 1: on their teams, which I'm pretty anti quitting. But if

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Speaker 1: I was playing with Deshauna Watson, or I was playing

734
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: for the Raiders, Like it'd probably cross my mind too

735
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Speaker 1: if I were those guys. So it's weird, Like I

736
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Speaker 1: understand where they're coming from, but how often does a

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Speaker 1: line I mean, I looked right before all these lines

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Speaker 1: are presented by DraftKings. It originally was like Steelers minus

739
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: one and a half or two. Now as of Thursday morning,

740
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Speaker 1: it's Steelers plus two and a half based on a

741
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Speaker 1: wide receiver getting traded, like understandable money comes in as

742
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Speaker 1: a week goes on. That seems pretty extreme to me.

743
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Speaker 1: And it's not like Matt Lafleur's the coach or he's

744
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: coming back to Green Bay where they've been all along,

745
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: like this is a new place. We saw Olbrick, who

746
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: was a little overwhelmed at that one part was at

747
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: this in the first half when like twelve men on

748
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: the field, he's calling the defense. Well, of course he

749
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: is first game ever fucking being a head coach and

750
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: he's trying to be the defensive coordinator like Rogers, who

751
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: is clearly showing his age. Yeah he can still throw

752
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: a great out route, but he does not move. He

753
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: is getting peppered in this game. Obviously, the Steelers probably

754
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: aren't some juggernaut. But if any team can hit this guy,

755
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith looks like me or you out there, and

756
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: what if they pepper this guy early and he is

757
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: just like because that's one area that it's clearly been

758
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: difficult for him to keep getting up. Now he has,

759
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: but sooner or later someone gets the right shot on him,

760
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: like he's forty years old. So just adding Devonte Adams like,

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00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge Steelers guy. I think Tomlin's messing

762
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Speaker 1: with them. I don't know where you stand on this

763
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson. Maybe I'm wrong on this one, but

764
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: I think justin Field is gonna start. I just think

765
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Speaker 1: the Jets, I just couldn't, in good conscious, conscious conscious

766
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: with them as a road team take them giving points

767
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: like that. That seems crazy to me. They're two and four,

768
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: they have been losing for a decade plus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, the first thing I the first

770
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Speaker 3: time I said about going back to that hail Mary, Well,

771
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: it's amazing that Rogers is so good at this, but

772
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Speaker 3: I mean this is They're an NFL head coach, Sean

773
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: mcdermot's a great defensive mind. It's stunned. It's stunning. To

774
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 3: see in college and the NFL when there's a clear

775
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: I guess that wasn't the clearest hail Mary example. There

776
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: was a chance they would just throw it to the sidelines,

777
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: but in that scenario they only rushed too. Rushing two

778
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: against five offensive linemen is useless.

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Speaker 1: You might as well you might as almost drop eleven.

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00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, drop everybody. You're never gonna get to the quarterback

781
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: and you're going up against a seventy five year old man.

782
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: Bring four or five. Don't give them time to wind up.

783
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 3: They also had a quarterback spy in the middle of

784
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: the field on him, Like what are we doing? Auburn

785
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: did that against UH Alabama last year? Like who cares?

786
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: If he runs? And then you don't have then you

787
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: have little Damar Hamlin back there, like put it put

788
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: one of your you have Matt Collins, you have Coleman.

789
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 3: Put what it's crazy? Like every detail should be covered. Yeah,

790
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 3: in the NFL, and that was just a complete mess.

791
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: Could have costs in the game the Jets give you.

792
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: I mean, the light has moved three points, which is

793
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: surprising just for a receiver, I will say, like he's

794
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: gonna have familiarity with the terminology of the offense like

795
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: with I mean, you know, the Hackett is not no

796
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: longer calling the plays, but Rogers still has a big influence.

797
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: He has chemistry with with DeVante. And the biggest thing

798
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 3: is that you're Mike Williams has washed, so the upgrade

799
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: is potentially massive. The worry, as you stated, is just

800
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: Rogers can't really move and you have TJ. Watt. How

801
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: much damage can he cause in this game? Because the

802
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: Jets offensive line hasn't been great, that would be my

803
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: biggest worry, you know, and I will say it has

804
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: been three points, but it isn't a true three points

805
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 3: because you're moving from one to you know, from plus

806
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: one to minus two. So it's not the same as

807
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: if you were to move say across the key number,

808
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: if it went from like minus one to minus four,

809
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Speaker 3: minus four to minus one, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: What you're saying.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is that the Steelers they have lots

812
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: of offensive line injuries. I mean, they've lost their projected

813
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: starting tackle already, they lost their best offensive lineman in

814
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Speaker 3: Daniels last week, and now they're gonna be without their center.

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Speaker 3: Zach Frazier, the rookie out of West Virginia has been

816
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: one of the best offensive linemen in the NFL this year,

817
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Speaker 3: so they have a cluster of injuries on the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: I don't I would like the Jets here if Russell

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Speaker 3: Wilson starts number one, well.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's do you think he's going to

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Speaker 1: or do you think I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't make sense. I but I mean, Fields wasn't

823
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: great last week. He's been pretty good this year. I

824
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: mean he threw a he threw a pick last week

825
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: that was horrendous that got overturned from a bad roughing

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Speaker 3: the passer. He got built out like two or three

827
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 3: times with roughing the passer calls last week. But I

828
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Speaker 3: just think Russ is washed and you don't have any

829
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Speaker 3: of the upside that Fields gives you with his legs.

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00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 3: With Russ now, he just like I don't, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I don't get it. So I don't know, but I

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00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: would like the Jets of Russco's maybe there will throw

833
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: him out there and if it doesn't go well, you know,

834
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Speaker 3: you just go right back to field. So there's not college. Yeah,

835
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: there's not much downside risk. So but the thing that

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Speaker 3: I would worry about with the Steelers is that this.

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Speaker 3: I mean the defense what is obviously amazing, probably get

838
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: high spit back, but the back end of the defense

839
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Speaker 3: I still have questions about at slot corner too. They

840
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: got a rookie usn't really been tested yet. I mean,

841
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: you look who the Steelers have played this year. They

842
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: played at Atlanta. It was Cousins' first game. Historically quarterbacks

843
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: off an injury when not playing in preseason struggle immensely

844
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 3: in their first game, and they just didn't have the

845
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: lineup under center. It was a disastrous game. Then they

846
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: played bow Knicks in his second start. Then they played

847
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: the Chargers when Herbert and all their offensive lineman got hurt.

848
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: Then they played the Colts who just just moved the

849
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 3: ball up and down the field, put up thirty on them.

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00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: You know. Then they played Dallas and that offense with injuries,

851
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: and then Vegas last week with Aidan O'Connell. And I mean,

852
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: then they lose the Dallas at home, and they played

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Speaker 3: Aidan O'Connell and the Raiders without their top two receivers

854
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: and offensive line injuries. Yes, they win that game by twenty.

855
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 3: They gave up three hundred yards in that game. Somehow,

856
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: yard wage was pretty much equal. There was a blocked punt,

857
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 3: multiple personal fouls, awful personal fouls on the Raiders, so

858
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: that game is actually closer. It's like the Steelers' schedule

859
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: has been very questionable. When you dig into it, Jets

860
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 3: will be the more desperate team here. But yeah, there's

861
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: a chance to watch his rex this game. But I

862
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 3: need to see H's playing for the quarterback of the Steelers

863
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: because if it is, Russ isn't played yet this year,

864
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: so you can't expect some Russ there. Big doesn't have

865
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: the upside of his legs, and the offense is still

866
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 3: really limited.

867
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: Okay, one of the headlining games is actually a really

868
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: good slate. You got Houston at Green Bay, you get

869
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: the Lions at Minnesota, and you have a Super Bowl rematch. Now,

870
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: Andy Reids twenty one and four off of bye, I mean,

871
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: he became a legend with that move. He was dominant

872
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: off of bye. And while he's going on the road

873
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, they're kind of coming off of Mini

874
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: by And because the Chiefs played on Monday night, the

875
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers played on Thursday night, it's really just

876
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: a seventy two hour difference instead of a seven day

877
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: seven plus day difference, right, so it's not as crazy.

878
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: And if you remove two years ago, which I think

879
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: was like Pretty Party's first or second start, they got destroyed,

880
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: they got killed it. It was Christian McCaffrey's first game there.

881
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: Actually Jimmy might have been playing. I forget if you

882
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: look at the two Super Bowls when they've both had

883
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: two weeks to prepare for each other. The forty nine

884
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: Ers had a twenty to ten lead heading into the

885
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: fourth quarter in twenty twenty. Honestly, with like six minutes left,

886
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: they were in control of that game, and the Chiefs

887
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: flipped it last year. I mean they were leading the

888
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: game with two minutes to go, like they had a

889
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: field goal lead, and Mahomes just let them and then

890
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: obviously it went to overtime. So it's like, when you've

891
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: given both these two teams, it's truly been a coin flip.

892
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: And I obviously to me because the forty nine Ers

893
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: fucked around and lost the Rams in Arizona game, this

894
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: game is really important to them, just you know, playing

895
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: for seeding. When you look at obviously, luckily for them,

896
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: the NFC North can only get one team, you know,

897
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: with a with a home field by like between like one,

898
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: two and three. But we'll see Atlanta and Tampa, you know,

899
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: have pretty big games this week. But the forty nine ers, like,

900
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: if you want maybe you won't be the one seed,

901
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: but you want that two seed. What do you think

902
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: twelve wins? Like you all of a sudden, you go

903
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: to three and four and you just like you just

904
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: you got to rattle off like four or five straight

905
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: victories to get back to where you wanted to be.

906
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: So I like the forty nine ers in this spot.

907
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: The Chiefs obviously just don't need to win it. They

908
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: got a pretty big buffer, and maybe this is the

909
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: game that kind of lights the fire to make them

910
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: to make some sort of wide receiver move. But I

911
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: think the greatest number that obviously works in their favor

912
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: that Andy riidappha Bay is somewhat neutralized because the forty

913
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: nine ers played on Thursday Night football.

914
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I'm glad to hear that you like

915
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: the Niners. I like them too. I bet them minus one.

916
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 3: It's scary going against Patch Mahomes's underdog, but it's it's

917
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: minus one. I mean, if you look historically Mahomes is

918
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: seven to zer against the spread when catching three or more.

919
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: And you know, during the regular season if the spread

920
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: is between three and three, so you say, okay, he's

921
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: just got to win the game. He's five hundred against

922
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: the spread. Last year he lost both games where he

923
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 3: was in the spot. I think he was a one

924
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: point favorite at home to the Bills and lost, and

925
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: a one point favorite at home against the Eagles and lost.

926
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 3: So he's not completely invincible. And look last year, I

927
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 3: sat here and told you I'm not bet the Niners

928
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 3: were two and a half point favorites in the Super Bowl.

929
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 3: I said, I'm not doing it, not betting against Mahomes.

930
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: They'll find a way to come back. The adjustments on

931
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: defense made the difference. I played the first half. That's it.

932
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: That line is two two and a half on a

933
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: neutral field. It's one now in San Francisco. And I

934
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: agree that by advantage is neutralized and the Chiefs are

935
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: significantly I shouldn't say significantly, but I think, you know,

936
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: materially worse than they were.

937
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: Rice is gone. The running back's gone, like Cko.

938
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 3: Rice is gone. There's no exposiveness in this offense. Kelsey

939
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 3: is traveling around the world with Taylor Swift. He's not

940
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: he's I mean, he's number one or older. We saw

941
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: him in the regular season last year, looked washed. He'll

942
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: probably find a way to you know, drink his his

943
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 3: his juice or whatever his regiment is, to get into

944
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: to shape. Not hitting anything nefarious, but he just in

945
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: the playoffs he turns into a different guy right now.

946
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: He is no burst of separation. The kelsey in the

947
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: playoffs was he was flashing. Now not so much. There's

948
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: no all there's no explosiveness in this offense at all.

949
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: All the exposiveness is on the forty nine side. I

950
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 3: also think the Chiefs defense just taking a step back. Now.

951
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 3: It might not show in the numbers, but I do

952
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: think that when they play competent offenses, they're really going

953
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,959
Speaker 3: to miss snead on the outside. I think they're vulnerable there.

954
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: The run defense numbers look good, but I mean, look,

955
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you that they played They played

956
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: the Falcons who lost too offensive line, two starting offensive

957
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: linemen and the and by the way, the Falcons should

958
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 3: have won that game. They don't get two four downs

959
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: in the red zone at the end, and then they

960
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: dubb completely blown clear cut pass interference in the end

961
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: zone that I don't know how it wasn't called speaking

962
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: of pass interference if there's not a fourth and sixteen

963
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: pass in appearance after a Chiefs defensive touchdown. They lose

964
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 3: to the Bengals at home, and you know there are

965
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: Ravens tow away from potentially losing that game. So you know,

966
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 3: this team could easily be two and three, not five

967
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: to ozer. Their one win that came by more than

968
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: one possession was against the Saints, and you say, oh, look,

969
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 3: their offense looked a little a bit more confident. Well,

970
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: the Saints just gave up fifty two to Baker Mayfield

971
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: at home, so that Saints defense has issues. So yeah,

972
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 3: and the forty nine ers on the flip side should

973
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: be five and one. They're one loss at Minnesota, they

974
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 3: blow double they're three wins by double digits, and then

975
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: they blow that double digit lead against the Cardinals because

976
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: they their kickers hurt, and then they somehow blow that game,

977
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 3: and that they were.

978
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: Terrible in the red zone in that game too. It

979
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: was it was pretty embarrassing.

980
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they need I mean hopefully during the bye or

981
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: during their mini by Shanahan worked a little bit on

982
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: I know he doesn't like to, but work a little

983
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: bit on special teams because that that is one of my.

984
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: Nest in this game. Oh no, no, no.

985
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 3: Is the special team's advantage for the Chiefs. So yeah,

986
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 3: it's tough to bet against the Homes and like this

987
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: Chiefs team finds a way. But I think the forty

988
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: nine Ers super Bowl revenge more the more desperate team here,

989
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 3: and they just have the much better offense right now,

990
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 3: and I think a defense that's at least on par

991
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: with the Chiefs, so you know, and they're at home.

992
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 3: I think like this line should be closer to three.

993
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, I bet the forty nine Ers.

994
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: It's funny perty takes a lot of shit when really

995
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: this season, like Kyle deserves it because the Niners, when

996
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: you think of like the best offenses in the league,

997
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: if you just ask a casual football fan, I don't

998
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: think the forty nine Ers would come out of their mouth.

999
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: And Baltimore obviously is like dominating right now. Number one

1000
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: on you know, average per game the Niners or second,

1001
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: he's had a Detroit, had a Green Bay, had a Tampa.

1002
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: Like their offense yard wise has moved the ball at

1003
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: will against everybody really except Minnesota, but their red zone

1004
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: offense up until the Seattle game when he threw a

1005
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns to Kittle. I don't really count the

1006
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: last run, but like a true when the game's in

1007
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: the balance, like can you score in the red zone.

1008
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: It's been bad and this notion they're like, oh, it's

1009
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: all Christian McCaffrey. It's like, well, you still got George Kittle,

1010
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: who's six foot three and a half. Juwan Jennings is

1011
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: a is a tall receiver, I use a great route

1012
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: runner and Deebo's like one of the great gadget players.

1013
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: So to me, it's it's on Kyle to like kind

1014
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: of dial of some of these plays in the Thursday

1015
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: night game Ryan Grubb. They didn't hit any of them,

1016
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 1: but he's like dialing up sweet plays. Guys are open.

1017
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: Gino's just missed a couple or you know, the guy

1018
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: couldn't drag his foot but you could see. Like, I

1019
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: just think Kyle, for whatever reasons, it has been a

1020
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: little off when they've gotten close to the red zone.

1021
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: Maybe he just misses Christian McCaffrey that much, and it's

1022
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: throws off his game plan through the week. But they

1023
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: their problem has not been someone mnemic offense. It's been

1024
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: struggles scoring touchdowns, but moving the ball from the twenty

1025
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: to the twenty. I mean only the Ravens have done

1026
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: it better this season.

1027
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, offense has been great. Party has been great.

1028
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 3: I mean just statistically, Party has been exponentially better than

1029
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: Mahomes this year. Part of that is just the weapons

1030
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: for Kansas City, the check goes out the tackles, there's

1031
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: still issues at boat tackle spots. So yeah, I trust

1032
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers offense much more than the Chiefs here,

1033
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 3: and that Chiefs. The Chiefs run defensive numbers look a

1034
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 3: bit better. But like I said, the last three games,

1035
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: they faced the Chargers without their two tackles and are

1036
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 3: you know, hampered Herbert the Falcons who moved the ball

1037
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 3: on them, but they got two. Their starting right tackle

1038
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 3: in starting center went out in the first half of

1039
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: that game. And the Saints, who are missing multiple offensive

1040
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: linemen so their defensive line has been in as favorable

1041
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 3: positions over the past month as you can can be.

1042
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: So I like the Niners to get done at home.

1043
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Chris Jones. Chris Jones is the one problem as

1044
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 1: he was in the Super Bowl. You know, the guards

1045
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: and centers for the Niners can be a little iffy,

1046
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: But like you said, they're having tackle issues. I thought

1047
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: Bosa was a little throwback defensive player of the year

1048
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: level performance the other night in Seattle. Now he's got

1049
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,479
Speaker 1: ten days, like that's a pretty big wild card.

1050
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 3: If the Chiefs tackles are.

1051
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: Just playing shitty, he could eviscerate them, right.

1052
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think that if you're into betting the

1053
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: awards markets, this would be the week. Now. Mahomes is

1054
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 3: usually really good at avoiding sacks, but I'm trying to

1055
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 3: pull up the awards. You can bet right now.

1056
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: You can bet like defensive player of the week, defense

1057
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: player of the year, So damn, you're getting pretty into

1058
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: the weeds here. You go to defensive player of the week.

1059
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: Like both uh is he's like fifteen to one now,

1060
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 3: so I mean, yeah, like wat is like even money,

1061
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 3: which is crazy right now, because you had Aiden Hudgson

1062
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 3: was gonna win it, like he just had to stay healthy,

1063
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: but he so he's out now. But I think both

1064
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: as the potential to potentially rise because this game will

1065
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: get all the eyeballs. He has a good matchup here.

1066
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: I think there's only two. I think there's only two

1067
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: or three games on the afternoon one o'clock. They're a

1068
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: couple of crappy one o'clock games. They were one twenty five.

1069
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: I mean, this is gonna be twenty million people.

1070
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: Watching, all eyes all eyes.

1071
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: Well, it's you know, the Hutchinson injury. That sucked to lose.

1072
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: To me, there's nothing like losing a player like just

1073
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: one of guys laying on the ground like that. It's

1074
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: one thing, though if it's just a knockdown, drag out game.

1075
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: It's another thing when it's a massacre. Yeah, you know,

1076
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: it's just like it.

1077
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1078
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: I think if you played the Lions in Minnesota they

1079
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: played ten times this versonal of Minnesota, that's good. I

1080
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: think the Lions would win like seven eight. I think

1081
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: because I'm a big believer in the Lions, I do

1082
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: think that that is a massive kick in the nuts,

1083
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: just emotionally. And you saw it. Jared Goff after the

1084
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: game give it to Dan Campbell calling him the rock.

1085
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they this is gonna be this is why

1086
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: you you know, hired the Dan Campbell's the Tomlins, the hardballs.

1087
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: Really for the this is like their strength because this

1088
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: is the type of thing where you look around, he's

1089
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: clearly he's the best player on the team. Like he's

1090
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: not like, you know, one of the best players on

1091
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: one of the best No, he's like the best player

1092
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: on the team and arguably had thrown his hat in

1093
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,959
Speaker 1: the ring. Is like hey, TJ. Watt, Miles, Garrett nick Bosa,

1094
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: like I'm one of you guys. And to have his

1095
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: leg wrapped around another guy's leg. Like they already had

1096
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: some defensive question marks, not necessarily against Dallas. Their offense

1097
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: is clearly was humming. But I mean, Dallas, me and

1098
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: you probably could have found a way if we were

1099
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator for whoever, to dial up fifteen points

1100
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: against that cowboy defense. I don't know. I get Minnesota's

1101
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: coming off a bye and they have an excellent coaching

1102
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: staff with Kevin O'Connell and Flores, but I kind of

1103
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: like the Lions getting points now. The one thing that

1104
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: gives me pause is like that emotional let down, like

1105
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: this has probably been a very emotional week for them, uh,

1106
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: with just you know, him in a hospital, right, I mean,

1107
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's out of the hospital

1108
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: bed yet he's gonna be probably in a wheelchair or

1109
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: a scooter or something like. It's it's not you just like, hey,

1110
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: he broke his arm. He's gonna be okay, Like this

1111
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: is a pretty traumatic injury. But I'm I'm still taking

1112
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: the Lions. But it's it's risky. Would what would this

1113
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: line be if Hutchinson's leg was fine he was playing this.

1114
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: Game, Ah, I would probably, I mean maybe one, like

1115
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: a half point or so, but it I think it's

1116
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: a big, a huge loss. I mean, their defense is

1117
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: essentially built around him getting pressure, and you know, it's

1118
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: a pass funnel defense. They're very good, good, very good

1119
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: against the run. They're vulnerable on the back end where

1120
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 3: they want to play more man coverage and you know

1121
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: they don't have the greatest secondary, but they're relying on

1122
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 3: him getting pressure and then your coverage on the back

1123
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: end doesn't have to hold up as long. On top

1124
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: of that, they don't have great depth at the position.

1125
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: They already lost Davenport, who they brought in to play

1126
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: on the other side, so now they're defensive and their

1127
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 3: edge rush situation is extremely underwhelming without Hutchinson. So yeah,

1128
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: it's this might end up being an injury that costs

1129
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 3: them a shot at winning the Super Bowl.

1130
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: Well, I think they got a big trade. You know,

1131
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: Crosby made comment today and Mark Davis can say all

1132
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: he wants, We're not trading him. Crosby basically like, I'm

1133
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: not rebuilding and the Raiders are about to nuke this

1134
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: bitch fucking started over. To me, their GM comes from

1135
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: the Rams. Would you offer two ones right now for

1136
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: Max Crosby if you were them, probably I would. And

1137
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: then and also a big picture, you just have them

1138
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: when Hutchinson, who just it's just a leg break will

1139
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: come back and then all of a sudden, I like

1140
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: the Lions even more next year if you're like, yeah,

1141
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: Crosby and Hudginson, Holy.

1142
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 3: And then all their young their young secondary piece that

1143
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 3: they drafted will get better exactly. Yeah.

1144
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the offense is all under contract.

1145
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is your window. You you going, because I

1146
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 3: don't think this year that their defense would hold up

1147
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: in the playoffs if they don't make a move. It

1148
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: just it just wouldn't For this week. I mean, I

1149
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 3: don't really have a few out three. I would like

1150
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 3: I would play Detroit, but there are the offense.

1151
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: Minnesota is just gonna be six and oh and then

1152
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden are gonna look out, They're gonna

1153
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: be like ten and one.

1154
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: I don't know the Vikings have the I have this

1155
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 3: weird vibe with the Bikers that they're gonna be like

1156
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 3: a team that goes ten and oh and then loses

1157
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: in the first round of the playoffs. If the Vikings

1158
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: win this game, they here, here are the rest of

1159
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: their games. Tell me when you're confident they'll lose, Rams, Colts, Jags, Titans.

1160
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: Bears, They're gonna they're gonna have a good record.

1161
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 3: Clearly, Falcons, Bears. I mean, yeah, they they could be

1162
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 3: a team that's like there was the number that Steelers

1163
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 3: in like the Kobe they were like ten and oh

1164
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 3: and then they lost like five straight and then got

1165
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 3: their teams. Yeah, the Vikings give me vibes to that.

1166
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 3: But this should be a really good game.

1167
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: Well because Minnesota's already won, They've already beat the Texans,

1168
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: they've already beat the Niners, and they already won at Lambeau.

1169
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: So it's like I would imagine those are the three

1170
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: hardest games of the season beside going to Detroit.

1171
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, the Lions offense, it was humming last week.

1172
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson's in his bag. You could tell that they

1173
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 3: after the buye they wanted to get an offensive lineman

1174
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 3: a touchdown so bad in that game they ended up

1175
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 3: giving up points trying to do it. They had offensive

1176
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 3: linemens split out. They were it was they were doing

1177
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: their you know, the eligible receiver trying to throw to them.

1178
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: They were, they were. He was just in his bag.

1179
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: But you got to remember that the Dallas defense was

1180
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: completely decimated by injury. The week before, the Seattle defense

1181
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 3: was completely decimated by injury. And before that the offense

1182
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: was struggling a bit. So where is was it just

1183
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: a fact of Was it just that the offense was

1184
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 3: off slow start? Now they're they're kind of humming? Or

1185
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: is do we see golf kind of? You know, sometimes

1186
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: he shows that he's he's still a pumpkin deep under

1187
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 3: underneath all all of the outer layers. Can Flores turned

1188
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 3: him back into a pumpkin with a couple of weeks

1189
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: to a pair. He's going to bring pressure. Now, Detroit

1190
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 3: does have a really good offensive line. They have a

1191
01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: good run game, But I would worry about the defense

1192
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 3: for Detroit here because Minnesota great offensive line, no Hutchinson,

1193
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 3: and I don't think that they could cover them the

1194
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 3: back end, great home field here. So yeah, I think

1195
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: that Minnesota is a small favorite. It is probably about right,

1196
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't fault you for taking Detroit.

1197
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny when one game jumped out to

1198
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: me a couple of days ago, when I was looking

1199
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: at the slate on like Tuesday morning, and you had

1200
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: mentioned it before we press record is Seattle against the Falcons,

1201
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: and Falcons Panther game was one of those classic like

1202
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: afternoon Sunday last week and just an awful day of

1203
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: NFL games that was like this thing, I just how

1204
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: irrelevant is this matchup once you know Atlanta's gonna win.

1205
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: But I just think you get the extra by one thing.

1206
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: I was really really Ryan Grubb. Anytime a coach who

1207
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: has coached his entire career, even if he's become elite

1208
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: in college, but he's never worked in the NFL, I

1209
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: always just am unsure when he makes the jump. Not

1210
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: because I don't think he knows x's nose, but it's

1211
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: a big difference dealing with pros. Even though you have

1212
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: nil guys, now, you know, dealing with DK Metcalf, dealing

1213
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: with whoever and coaching them hard, implementing what you need

1214
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 1: to do, and the understanding you have of like how

1215
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: so and so runs a defense, how this guy runs it?

1216
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: You just have never played against them. He's pretty good.

1217
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Grubb is pretty awesome. And in that

1218
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: game there were a couple of red zone trips where

1219
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: even when they didn't score, I was like, God, this

1220
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: fucking guy. It looks like Washington if you gave him,

1221
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Niners offensive weapons with a good quarterback.

1222
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, he's got Geno Smith who just can be

1223
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: very very hit or miss. But I know, you know,

1224
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's just a stud. They've just had a million

1225
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: injuries on defense. I think their coaching staff's really really good.

1226
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: And I just you give me plus three against the Falcons,

1227
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: who clearly are going to be solid when the dust sedtles.

1228
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: They're going to be a playoff team. Are they going

1229
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: to win the division? My Saints are and shambles.

1230
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 3: That thing's over.

1231
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: But Tampa, they got a big game, gets you guys

1232
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: on Monday night. But I don't know that Seattle number

1233
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: jumped out to me, I think there's some value there

1234
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: for sure.

1235
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 3: I agree. Yeah, I bet Seattle here plus three. I

1236
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 3: think these teams are about equal, and just from a

1237
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 3: powerty's perspective, Yeah, Atlanta home field is not much well.

1238
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: Seattle is fully healthy. I mean i'd like them to

1239
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: win the game outright.

1240
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think they still are. I mean I

1241
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 3: would love to. We'll see if frequel And can give

1242
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 3: it a go. He's playing at an all pro level

1243
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 3: their corner, but they should be healthier up front. I mean,

1244
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: if you look at what Seattle has done this year,

1245
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 3: they started off three and oho, but you knew that

1246
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 3: it wasn't going to be that because they beat Bnicks,

1247
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissette and then whoever the Dolphins were throwing out there,

1248
01:06:54,840 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: and Skyler Thompson and Tim Boyle. Competition, you know, increased competition,

1249
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 3: and they lost three straight. But it was one of

1250
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 3: the hardest stretches that any team will have to face

1251
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: this season. They played, they went to Detroit and then

1252
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 3: you know, came home in a short week to play

1253
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 3: the Giants, then played to forty nine ers on a

1254
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 3: short week, three games in eleven days. Ravished by injuries,

1255
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 3: that's brutal.

1256
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 1: So two teams that were in the NFC Championship last year.

1257
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the two of the best offenses the NFL. When

1258
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 3: your defense is just completely deactmint of injuries, so they

1259
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: needed the rest you had. You know, you had a

1260
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 3: trip out to New England too, and so they needed

1261
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 3: the rest. I like the staff, So the extra time

1262
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 3: to repair should be favorable for both Grubb and McDonald,

1263
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: and they should be healthier on defense up front. If

1264
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 3: woman can't go and they're still banged up in the secondary.

1265
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 3: I still think they can keep up with Atlanta because

1266
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: this Seattle offense is really good as long as they

1267
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: can get pass protection. A couple injuries on the right

1268
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 3: side of the offensive line, they're dealing it, but doesn't

1269
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 3: matter against Atlanta. Atlanta cannot generate pressure. They're incapable of doing.

1270
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 3: It looked last week against Carolina, Carolina missing a couple

1271
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: offensive linemen didn't matter. Andy Dalton had all day to throw.

1272
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 3: They are the only team that gets less pressure than

1273
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 3: Atlanta's Carolina, who has nobody left on their defense due

1274
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 3: to injuries. So Gino should have all day here with

1275
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 3: his bevy of weapons to cook and I think they

1276
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 3: can keep up with Atlanta. And if you get a

1277
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 3: couple guys in the secondary back, I liked it even more.

1278
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 3: And if you look at Atlanta, all this Atlanta team

1279
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 3: does is play close games. Even that Carolina team who

1280
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 3: had no I mean everyone was out for them. They

1281
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 3: had the ball down eight driving in the fourth quarter

1282
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 3: in the red zone and threw a pick and then

1283
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 3: it got out of hand from there. The rest of

1284
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: their games. Look, if Sirianni runs the ball, they lose

1285
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:01,440
Speaker 3: that game. If they get if Fuo doesn't hit a

1286
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 3: sixty yard field goal in the game they had two

1287
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 3: non offensive touchdowns against the Saints, they lose that game.

1288
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: And they don't they hit the PI got him like

1289
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: thirty five yards to get him in field goal range.

1290
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if they don't get the spike down with

1291
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,839
Speaker 3: one second to go, and then when a coin toss,

1292
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 3: they lose to the Bucks. The game they won an overtime,

1293
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 3: so you know, arguably should have beat the Chiefs, but

1294
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 3: they arguably should have three more losses on and then

1295
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 3: all they do is play close Kings. I expect this

1296
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 3: to be another close game, and I like the Seahawks catches.

1297
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 3: There's a lot of trends here, and yeah, has been

1298
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 3: pretty unlucky when it comes to turnovers. So you go

1299
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 3: back to that Detroit game that DK fumble hit another

1300
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 3: big fumble in another game this year.

1301
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: He turns the ball over a lot though he.

1302
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 3: Does, but just in general, like their defense, if you

1303
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 3: look under the hood, should have more turnovers. And their

1304
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 3: offense has lost a ton of EPA for turnovers, so

1305
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 3: they've been running a bit bad, so they could have

1306
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 3: some regression. I mean a lot of trends. Back up

1307
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 3: the Seahawks here, three straight losses, road underdog, road underdogs

1308
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 3: with extra rest, three or more. A lot of these

1309
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 3: trends are right right around sixty percent against the spread historically,

1310
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: So I agree with you. I like Seattle.

1311
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: We don't usually mention Monday night games. But Tampa, you know,

1312
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: Baker leaves the league and touchdown passes, they've looked really

1313
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: explosive passing the game. The Ravens who Derreck Henry is

1314
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: on pace for like two g's and twenty five touchdowns.

1315
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 1: The run defense is awesome, but the pass defense is

1316
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: more than questionable. Like when you look at that game,

1317
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: do you get a little nervous if you're Ravens like

1318
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: stopping this passing offense which is really humming right now,

1319
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: or just you just run down their throat and Tampa's

1320
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: defense isn't quite as good as it's been in a

1321
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: year's past.

1322
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm a little bit nervous, but I

1323
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 3: think that the key is, you've seen this Tampa offense

1324
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 3: operate at its best this year when it's run game

1325
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 3: gets going, like they were running all over New Orleans

1326
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 3: last week and yeah, Bucky Sean Tucker flash last week.

1327
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 3: So last year they couldn't run it at all and

1328
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 3: Baker was kind of bailing them out at an unsustainable rate. So,

1329
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 3: but they're not going to run on Baltimore. We saw

1330
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: that last week. Tampa does have the receivers. You need

1331
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 3: really good receivers to beat this Ravens team. But do

1332
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 3: I trust Baker to be consistent enough without a complimentary

1333
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 3: run game? No? Not really. This this total starting to

1334
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: get up there. I can see both offensive scoring, but

1335
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 3: Ravens is gonna run a lot. Tampa plays slow. I

1336
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: don't know. I might be a contrarian under I think

1337
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 3: the line is I think it's the three. I would

1338
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: play the Ravens. But yeah, certainly. Ravens have had like

1339
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 3: a number of weeks where they've gotten up for opponents

1340
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 3: like the Bills game in brime time, huge game, needed it,

1341
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 3: go to Sincy in overtime, need it, huge for the division,

1342
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 3: get it. And then you get Jane Daniels. The Battle

1343
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 3: of Belt weigh like there's a rivalry there between Washington

1344
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 3: and Baltimore, even if they don't play frequently. Just between

1345
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: the players, there's a lot of familiarity. You have all

1346
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 3: the Daniels type, you get up for that, you win

1347
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 3: the game. Now you're sitting at four and two in

1348
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 3: good position. So now you're going down to Tampa. It's

1349
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: a non conference game. So like there's just from like

1350
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 3: a letdown perspective how the schedule breaks, it's not a

1351
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 3: great spot for Baltimore. That would concern me a bit,

1352
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,520
Speaker 3: But it's hard to see Tampa getting many stops.

1353
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: What do you think about my college football underdog Parlay

1354
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee at home plus three, Nebraska going to IU plus

1355
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: six and a half, Illinois against the team that you

1356
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 1: said sucked and you were dead right, Michigan at home

1357
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: plus three and a half. That seems crazy to me,

1358
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: And you know, I was at that Oklahoma game, which

1359
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: was seven to three with only a couple of minutes

1360
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: left to go in the first half, and I get

1361
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: he hadn't he'd missed a couple of games. But quinn

1362
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: Ewers doesn't exactly look like Andrew Luck out there. I mean,

1363
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: they ran the ball really well, they throw a lot

1364
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: of quick screens, and they got some dudes, and obviously

1365
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: their defense is really good. It's not like I'm a

1366
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: huge believer in Georgia, but eventually this team is gonna

1367
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: play a close game. You would think that Georgia would

1368
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: get really up for it. Plus four and a half,

1369
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: So I go Tennessee, Nebraska, Illinois, Georgia.

1370
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 3: I don't hate it. I was the games I played

1371
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 3: Georgia as well. There's a little bit. What we're seeing

1372
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 3: this year is that did we talk about this every week?

1373
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 3: The elite teams are not as elite because they've been

1374
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 3: in years past. The talent has kind of dispersed due

1375
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 3: to the new college football dancy of the transfer portal.

1376
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 3: Nil Texas has looked the part, and if you look

1377
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 3: at their metrics, they look like the best team in

1378
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 3: the country. But there's we've seen this this year these

1379
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: teams that they haven't really played anybody. You can say

1380
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 3: how they played Michigan Michigan sticks. I mean, like the

1381
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 3: Michigan Cup dominated by Washington. Uh is the team that

1382
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 3: is not?

1383
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: How is Mischi? How is Michigan favored in that game?

1384
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh? Insane? I mean they're going to there, they're

1385
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: off of a bye, They're going to Jack Tuttle, but

1386
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: they still don't have receivers. But you know, Texas played

1387
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 3: Michigan when they were I mean it was just a

1388
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 3: joke what they were, what they had at quarterback. Texas

1389
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 3: beats Oklahoma, Oklahoma's you know, playing a backup quarterback and

1390
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 3: had no receivers at all, with offensive line injuries.

1391
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 1: And their defense was given it to their defense was

1392
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: given it to them for a half up until the

1393
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: two minutes to go and they started fumbling and they

1394
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: just gave him a couple easy touchdowns.

1395
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. And if you look at the other Texas games,

1396
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean, so that's those are you know, Oklahoma's original

1397
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 3: backup Michigan, who's their quarterbacks now a third string? You

1398
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 3: know they played utsas since bench their quarterback Uel Monroe.

1399
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 3: I mean, these aren't good teams as their bet since

1400
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 3: bench their quarterback, Mississippi State's backup quarterback, they haven't played

1401
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 3: anybody yet. We've seen this a number of times this year.

1402
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 3: Oh Miss destroying everybody, right, looks so good, step up

1403
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 3: in class and you know they lose to Kentucky, They

1404
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 3: lose to LSU, Tennessee, all the talk about Tennessee. They

1405
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 3: lose to Arkansas and arguably should have lost to Florida

1406
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 3: once they stepped up in class. Alabama destroying all these

1407
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 3: teams out of conference. They lose to Vanderbilt, probably should

1408
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 3: have lost to South Carolina too, So we I mean,

1409
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: there's countless examples of this once. I mean, Ohio State

1410
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 3: look dominant, favored at Oregon lose outright, So do we

1411
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 3: really know how good? We know that they're they're super talented,

1412
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 3: but do we really know how good? And George is

1413
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 3: gonna be the more desperate team here, You're gonna there's

1414
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 3: been more upsets in college football this year because I

1415
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 3: think there's not as that the sense of urgency isn't

1416
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 3: as great with the twelve off team PLAYFF like you

1417
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 3: can afford a couple losses. Georgia's schedules brutal, like they

1418
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 3: still go to Ole Miss. They still play Tennessee. You

1419
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 3: know they they already lost a game this season. I

1420
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 3: think they'll come out focused here after how they came

1421
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 3: out against Alabama, and they're they're the much more battle

1422
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 3: tested team. There's definitely some issues. The wide receiver room

1423
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 3: is not as talented as it's been. The defense doesn't

1424
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 3: have as much depth due to the transfer portal. The

1425
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 3: secondary is that issue, specifically against play action where viewers

1426
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 3: usually thrives. But I agree, I had to take the

1427
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 3: points here the one game there, I don't I just

1428
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 3: don't know, so I can't even give you a strong

1429
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 3: opinion as Alabama Tennessee. I have no idea what's going

1430
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 3: to happen in that game. Alabama has issues on the

1431
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 3: especially you know, their offensive line has issues. They can't

1432
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 3: protect Noural, which is a problem against the Texas defensive line.

1433
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 3: But tech, excuse me, it's a Tennessee defensive line. But

1434
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 3: Tennessee's down there. You know, they're quarterback of their defense

1435
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 3: and Peely their their star linebacker. It's a huge loss.

1436
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 3: So you know Ken Milroll get enough time to take

1437
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 3: advantage of the vulnerable Tennessee secondary. We'll see on the

1438
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 3: other end, the Alabama secondary.

1439
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: What's up with What's up with Nico right now?

1440
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 3: How he looks horrendous. So the Alabama secondary has major issues.

1441
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 3: They're very young. They can be exploited. The Tennessee offensive line,

1442
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 3: the tackle position has been very murky. And Nico can't

1443
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 3: hit a throw. I mean he can't hit a throw

1444
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 3: down field. He's been inaccurate. He looks like he's just

1445
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 3: he's lost his confidence for now. His footwork has been off.

1446
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 3: So can he take advantage of the Alabama secondary? I

1447
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 3: don't know. So there's there's so many variables here. Look

1448
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 3: how similar these teams were right we they both look

1449
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 3: dominant out of conference, and we say these teams are

1450
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 3: definitely going to the playoff them in Tennessee prior to

1451
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. Then Tennessee loses as a

1452
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 3: big favorite to Arkansas and Alabama loses is a big

1453
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 3: favorite to Vanderbilt.

1454
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: I'd even rewind before those games. They you know, Tennessee

1455
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: goes to Oklahoma, they host Georgia. They both dominate those games. Really,

1456
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: I know the Bama Georgia game. So you feel even

1457
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: better about both. You start going could Tennessee win the

1458
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: national championship. Holy shit, look at the Bourne Milroe and

1459
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: then it immediately flips.

1460
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 3: And then on top of that, you say, okay, there

1461
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 3: they lost the game. Next week, big favorites, big, big favorites.

1462
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 3: You expect them to bounce back at home and Alabama

1463
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 3: at home against South Carolina. South Carolina, show have won

1464
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 3: that game. They don't turn it over a million times,

1465
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 3: miss a field goal, and you come out with that

1466
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 3: performance Tennessee at home in prime time against a bad

1467
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 3: Florida team. If Graham Hearts doesn't get hurt, they lose

1468
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 3: that game. Game that still went to overtime, a game

1469
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 3: where Florida is and I couldn't score first of goal

1470
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 3: with the one fumbled. It had a number of mistakes

1471
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 3: the end of the half, they couldn't get a day,

1472
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 3: had a field goal taken off the board because of it.

1473
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 3: I think twelve men on the field or delay game penalty.

1474
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: Florida should have won that game. So both these teams,

1475
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 3: it's like that was the performance after you got upset

1476
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 3: and now this is a big game. So I don't know,

1477
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: I have no idea. There's so many questions on both teams.

1478
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean taking the points.

1479
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: I might take them off the ticket and just go

1480
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 1: with Nebraska, Illinois, Georgia because you're right that think's a

1481
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: total wild card.

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Speaker 3: I did play Nebraska as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's obviously Indiana has been a great story,

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Speaker 1: but that seems like a lot of points. Honestly, that

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01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: feels like upset potential just to win the game outright, No,

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Speaker 1: I agree, I.

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Speaker 3: Agree, Yeah, No, I mean Indiana has been great, that

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Speaker 3: they haven't really played anybody. This will be the I mean,

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Speaker 3: they haven't played a top fifty team in my Poweriting's

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01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 3: Nebraska arguably top twenty five team, big step up in class,

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Speaker 3: and I don't I think this line hasn't played because

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Speaker 3: Indiana has been covering every week and they have been great.

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Speaker 3: But I will say if Nebraska illin Nebraska lost to Illinois,

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01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 3: Illinois had a ridiculous pick in the end zone and

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01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 3: on what looked like it was going to be a

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Speaker 3: touchdown for Nebraska, game goes to overtime, it was. If

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Speaker 3: Nebraska wins that game, they're six and oh also just

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Speaker 3: like Indiana, and this line is a couple points lower.

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Speaker 3: So I agree, I think Nebraska is super live in

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01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 3: this game. Yeah, I mean Nebraska loses every one possession game,

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Speaker 3: So that's probably what's gonna happen here. They'll find a

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01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 3: way to lose. Their special teams are bad too, and

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01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: that's probably what it'll cost them. But yeah, too many

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01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,799
Speaker 3: points here. But that Albama Tennessee game, I have no clue.

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Speaker 1: Let's ended on that, stucky. Let's uh. I'm pretty excited

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01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: college football slate. This is a pretty good football slate.

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Sunday in.

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01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 3: The NFL closes this one in the NFL. I knew

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01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 3: going in the slate was bad. I mean there was

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01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 3: a ton of road favorite just big mismatches, and yeah,

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01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 3: and we're getting we're getting two of the worst games

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Speaker 3: out of the way before all the action starts with whatever,

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01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 3: you know, the Thursday night game is not good?

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01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: And then the Yeah, if I didn't do this for

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01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: if I didn't do this for a living, you know,

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01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: Thursday night, we're recording this before, I would probably take

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01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: Maria to dinner or something and I and just not

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01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 1: even pay attention. Yeah, that would be a game where

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01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: I might just be like, you know, I'll wait for

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01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:28,799
Speaker 1: the weekend to watch the football.

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01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're feeling tired, or go out, you know,

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01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 3: go out a little hard. This is a good Sunday

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01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: to sleep in for the for the London game. I

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01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 3: will end it on this because I feel like I

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01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 3: usually give tons of ugly picks. I didn't give enough.

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01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 3: I didn't give any really any this week. I'll say

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01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 3: I did buy the Browns. That was my other favorite

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01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 3: pick in addition to the Seahawks and Niners covered last week. Yeah,

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01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 3: it's just too many points. They played really well against

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01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 3: Borrow that defense. The team will get up for this.

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01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 3: They hate they hate the Bengals each other divisional home game.

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01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 3: Bengals nothing but play close games all season long. Cooper loss,

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01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 3: it hurts, But this team couldn't throw the ball. I

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01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 3: mean like they're the only team the NFL doesn't have

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01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 3: twenty points of three hundred dards total offense. So how

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01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 3: much can he really be worth it a spread? Now,

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01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 3: Clayton's gonna go back to the offense. They should have

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01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 3: been running that Stefanski heavier sets, lean on the ground game.

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01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 3: You got your tackles back, Rubb's gonna come back. Give

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01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 3: them some juice. We'll get ten I imagine ten to

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01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 3: fifteen carries. Throw to your tight ends run the ball,

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01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: which you can do on sincy rely on your defense.

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01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: This should be a lower scoring game, you know, six

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01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 3: six and a half points super valuable. Burrow's won in

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01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 3: three the past three years against Cleveland with four touchdowns

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01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:44,560
Speaker 3: four interceptions. This defense has given him issues. So I

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01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 3: think and look, Cleveland's offense bad, bad, maybe even historically bad.

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01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 3: But they're not this bad. I mean, they're they're converting

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01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 3: nineteen percent of their third downs. That is unspeakably unheard

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01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 3: of it. Since two thousand, there's been one team that's

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01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 3: been under twenty five percent, yet alone under twenty That

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01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 3: was the two thousand and five Niners. I think that

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01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 3: was Mike and you would probably, I mean you would

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01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 3: know Mike Nolan.

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01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad team.

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Speaker 3: That was like one of the worst offenses of all time.

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01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 3: Who was the It was Gore probably Brandon Lloyd who

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01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 3: was the quarterback of that team. I don't even know.

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01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: It might have been a Tim Rite type type guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they was. They're one of the worst offenses ever.

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01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 3: They were at twenty four that was the that's the

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01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: lowest since two thousand, I should say you.

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Speaker 1: That was the time in college we were having conversations

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Speaker 1: out on the West Coast. Could the USC Trojans with

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01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll beat the Niners? And it was like a

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01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: legit argument where a lot of people felt strongly the

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01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Trojans could give the Niners a game. Yeah, I still

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01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: you know, if you look back at some of those

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01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: rosters that led to Alex Smith the number one overall pick.

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01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 1: But the Niners were really really putrid, and then you know,

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01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: they were so shitty they ended up with the Patrick

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01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 1: Willison's the Vernon Davis's over the next couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was bad. They started.

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01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: Maybe, uh Tim Ortay type quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Did they really? They started Arnez Battle for eight games.

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01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: Yeah he got a little run.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, okay, maybe he was and never run it.

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01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 3: Uh yeah he was, yeah, no, no, no, never mine he

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, how did he start a quarterback? Okay,

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01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 3: Cody Pickett started a couple of games, Ken Dorsey started

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01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 3: a handful of games, Tim Retey and Alex Smith. Alex

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01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 3: Smith must have got hurt or something.

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01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: Well what happened is or that was must have been

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01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: his rookie year, so they just drafted him. It was

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Speaker 1: one of those they didn't want to play him, I think,

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01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: and then it's one of the because back then it

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01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: was much more in vogue. Like I don't care where

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: you were drafted, you just didn't play. But when you're

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01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: that shitty, you get kind of thrown into the fire.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this team is bad, but I did play the Browns.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just a bit too many points. It's ugly,

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01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 3: but yeah, nineteen percent for the Browns. They they they

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01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 3: hit a screen pass last week in the second half.

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01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 3: They finally got their run game going. Helps to get

1595
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 3: their tackles back because the tackle situation was really bad.

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01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 3: They had a screen pass I think for a first

1597
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: down against the Eagles. I think it ended a stretch

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01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 3: of twenty sixth straight third down.

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Speaker 1: This is pretty crazy.

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Speaker 3: Twenty six The NFL team insane, So you would imagine

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01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 3: they got to just anything's better. But they're gonna run it,

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01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 3: throw to your tight ends, punt it, rely on your

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01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 3: d This would be a lower scoring game, so, like,

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01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, Bengals probably win, like seventeen fourteen, twenty seventeen.

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01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 1: If I hit my underdog college football parlay, I will

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01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: I'll throw a little juice on that because then all

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01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Browns cover again. They just be

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01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: a covering machine. Start riding them.

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01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, stucky, have a good weekend. Talk to you soon.

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01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 3: See you, buddy, absolutely brother. Enjoy this light. I'll see

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01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 3: you next week.

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Speaker 1: The volume