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<v Speaker 1>Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Two Pretty for jail. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the defense too pretty to go to jail?

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what, it's not the first time that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too pretty to go to jail has actually been uttered

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<v Speaker 1>in court now. In this case, it starts with skipping

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<v Speaker 1>out on a Chilies bill. Have you ever been to Chilies?

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<v Speaker 1>They're awesome. Some people call it fast food. It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's much more than that. But that Chili's bill just

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<v Speaker 1>the tip of the iceberg. I'm Nancy Grace. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Nation and Serious x one eleven. How did the

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<v Speaker 1>whole oddyssey began? Take a less to our friends at Klas.

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<v Speaker 1>Bostami was arrested at Harry Reid Airport in August after

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<v Speaker 1>skipping out on her restaurant check, threatening to spit on officers,

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<v Speaker 1>and claiming she was being arrested for being too pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Unusual interactions, neighbors say, we're all too common. She would

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<v Speaker 1>come outside and literally spinning her driveway singing songs. She

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<v Speaker 1>was wanted for skipping out on a Chili's tab at

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<v Speaker 1>read International Airport, but per the arrest report, she claims

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<v Speaker 1>she was being harassed because cops had never seen anyone

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<v Speaker 1>as pretty as her. This is hen Bustami, who was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested near baggage Claim last week. Turns out she had

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<v Speaker 1>an arrest warrant from Las Vegas Municipal Court. Bustami was

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<v Speaker 1>uncooperative while being detained. She was later booked into Clark

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<v Speaker 1>County Detention Center. Two pretty for jail. Well, of course

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the first time we've heard that before, but

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<v Speaker 1>just hold this thought just a moment, too pretty for

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<v Speaker 1>jail joining us David Charns, investigative reporter k l AS

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<v Speaker 1>eight News, Now, that's not pretty threatening to spit on

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<v Speaker 1>or spitting on a cop and crapping out on your

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<v Speaker 1>chili's bill. What's pretty about that? What we saw in

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<v Speaker 1>that arrest report that we obtained someone who was hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out at the airport. You know, Las Vegas is a

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<v Speaker 1>busy place. People are coming in and out all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We get reports all the time of people doing things

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<v Speaker 1>at the airport. But this one sort of stood out

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<v Speaker 1>a little because on page two it said she refused

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<v Speaker 1>to be arrested or she was getting arrested because she

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<v Speaker 1>was too pretty, and the whole reason police started talking

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<v Speaker 1>to her. Was because she reportedly skipped out on that bill.

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<v Speaker 1>David Charns joining US investigative reporter k l S eight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you think if you're going to commit a crime,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't do it at, for instance, a casino, or

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<v Speaker 1>at FBI headquarters in Quan, a co or at an

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<v Speaker 1>airport where there are surveillance cameras everywhere you turn. But

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<v Speaker 1>she did. She skipped out on a chili's bill. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me understand something was the chilies inside the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>The chilies was inside the airport, and there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of police who walked through the airport. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>busy place, millions of millions of people a year, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was just someone who was doing some strange behaviors

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<v Speaker 1>and police went up and wanted to talk to her.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out she was the sud thief. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what she ordered. Guys, again, this is not the first

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<v Speaker 1>time we've heard the I'm too pretty defense? Does the

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<v Speaker 1>name Lauren cut sharing Abelle Let's our friends at Inside Edition.

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<v Speaker 1>She said she was just too pretty to go to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>When she was arrested for do you want I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty girl? Please go in there, and now it seems

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<v Speaker 1>a judge agrees. Thirty four year old Lauren Cutshaw is

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<v Speaker 1>being given a sweet deal, no jail time, and she

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<v Speaker 1>even gets to keep her driver's license. Countsha, a real

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<v Speaker 1>estate agent from South Carolina, was pulled over after comp's

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<v Speaker 1>state she blew through a stump sign going more than

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<v Speaker 1>twice the speed limit. Put an okay, she was DUI

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<v Speaker 1>blows to a stop sign, but the judge actually let

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<v Speaker 1>her off. I guess he also thought she was too pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear her whining? I guess in the seat

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<v Speaker 1>of her car. I'm a pretty girl. Please don't make

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<v Speaker 1>me go in there. Boo hoo woman, Well, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a listen to more her browdy whining on the way

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<v Speaker 1>to jail went viral last year. Graduating for a while

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<v Speaker 1>really good university, No one was almost able. The Korean

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<v Speaker 1>graduated with three point eight. My guys going on getting

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<v Speaker 1>his scarship to my college. You're on the owner, good cheerleader,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a beat the wholife. Don't do to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty cal all pleased to be going there. We're

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<v Speaker 1>now learning she has pled guilty to mister meaner duy.

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<v Speaker 1>She was find one hundred and eighty seven dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>order to perform twenty four hours community service and take

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol safety classes. Okay, let's make sure I understand this.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me kirk Nermi, legal analyst and former league counsel

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<v Speaker 1>too none other than miss Jody Arius, who was called

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<v Speaker 1>a bombshell Gorgias, sexy, seductive, blah blah blah. He's author

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<v Speaker 1>of Trapped with Miss Arius and you can find them

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and Insta at Nurmi. Unshane kirk Nurmi, your

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<v Speaker 1>client is also guilty of thinking she was too pretty

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<v Speaker 1>to be prosecuted. That she just believed everybody's going to

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<v Speaker 1>fall for her line about the murder of Travis Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>line and sinker because she was attractive. Other people think

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<v Speaker 1>she's attractive, not me, but apparently she did too. What

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<v Speaker 1>about it an army, Well, let me tell you. I

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<v Speaker 1>think one thing I see with a lot of femail

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<v Speaker 1>criminals when they've heard it just here in the tape

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<v Speaker 1>you just played as a level of narcissi that they

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<v Speaker 1>believe that they should be able to get away with

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<v Speaker 1>anything in their excuses will hold water, and when they

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<v Speaker 1>start to not hold water, they become the victim of

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<v Speaker 1>their own actions and don't realize or don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's going to hold them to account. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>see that over and over again with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these female Karen started joining me. H now psychologists joining

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<v Speaker 1>us out of Manhattan at Karen dot com. That's Karen

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<v Speaker 1>with a C. Karen, have you seen those studies? I

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<v Speaker 1>have the show When a defendant or a person in general,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily criminal defendant are attractive, they get better treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>just like that Braddy woman Cutshaw you here whining I

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<v Speaker 1>had a three point eight average. I was a cheerleader.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't see me in jail. I'm a pretty girl. They

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<v Speaker 1>actually do get away with it. Well, people who are

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<v Speaker 1>good looking to get away with a lot more than

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<v Speaker 1>other people. Nancy, what you have here, and remember it

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<v Speaker 1>was the same covering. Jody is somebody who has a

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<v Speaker 1>narcissist without a doubt and has such a strong sense

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<v Speaker 1>of entitlement, and that's not uncommon. I mean, she really

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<v Speaker 1>fits the textbook where she's preoccupied with fantasies of beauty

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<v Speaker 1>and believes that she's special and she needs admiration, envious

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<v Speaker 1>of others, and believes that they're envious of her. It

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<v Speaker 1>all fits who this person is, and she's dangerous because

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<v Speaker 1>she feels that she's a buzzer. Just a quick question.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Nermie are throwing around the term narcissistic, which

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<v Speaker 1>of course is named after the mythological character of Narcissus

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<v Speaker 1>who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool.

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<v Speaker 1>But didn't Narcissus die in the end of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened to Narcissus at the end of that? Does

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<v Speaker 1>anybody know? I mean, Karen start you throw around the

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<v Speaker 1>term narcissistic all the time, but Sidney has just refreshed

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<v Speaker 1>my recollection. Narcissus died staring into his own reflection, and

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of the mirror of Earra said and

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Potter, where you see yourself and your deepest desires,

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<v Speaker 1>your see yourself as you want to be, and people

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<v Speaker 1>look at it so long they just starved to death

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<v Speaker 1>and die. They can't leave it. So my point is,

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Narmy, let's talk about Jodi Arius, your client for

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<v Speaker 1>much longer than you wanted, so attached to her looks.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember she's charged with murder in the States, seeking

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<v Speaker 1>the death penalty. She gives an interview against your wishes,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's caught on camera putting on face powder and lipstick.

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<v Speaker 1>She's worried about her face powder when she's looking at

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<v Speaker 1>death by the needle, She's staring into the mirror literally

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<v Speaker 1>to her death. I mean, did she ever try to

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<v Speaker 1>use her charms her beauty on you? And did it work?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest just a little bit. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if she tried, but I certainly know it didn't work, Nancy,

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<v Speaker 1>because the nice didn't know somebody to kill her any

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<v Speaker 1>charms or fallen by the wayside. But you're right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about narcissism. Image was always very important

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<v Speaker 1>in this areas. You talked about the clothing, the interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually predated my ten year as a lawyer. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was always a big deal to her. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that flows along with this idea of this narcissistic

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<v Speaker 1>female criminal that we were talking about here today Time

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<v Speaker 1>Stories with Nancy Grace. Lisa Daddio joining us for a

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<v Speaker 1>police lieutenant Newhaven PD and now the Director of the

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<v Speaker 1>Center for Advanced Policing and Graduate Program coordinator University New

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<v Speaker 1>Haven Investigation program, Lisa, thank you for being with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa talking about being beautiful and using that as a weapon,

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<v Speaker 1>believing that you are somehow immune to prosecution. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to jail because you're so pretty. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not pretty to spit on police officers. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>been spat on? Thankfully no, but I've had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cops. Practically every cop I know, somebody is spit

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<v Speaker 1>on this. Well, what I was going to say is

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been, but my partner who had responded with me,

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<v Speaker 1>had been, and so you know, Nancy, it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that is just so despicable. So whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not you think you're so pretty and so beautiful, you

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<v Speaker 1>should not have to play the consequences. Spitting on somebody

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<v Speaker 1>speaks volumes about the type of person you are on

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<v Speaker 1>the inside. I was talking about Cutshaw earlier than one.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear whining about her how beautiful she is and

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<v Speaker 1>her three point eight great average as she was a

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleader in college. Well it worked on a judge, believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not. But I would have to say the

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<v Speaker 1>all time winner for I'm Too Pretty for Jail would

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<v Speaker 1>have to be Deborah LaFave charged with child molestation. Take

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<v Speaker 1>a listen to our friends at crime Online. An argument

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<v Speaker 1>made in a Florida court room by Deborah La Fave's attorney,

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<v Speaker 1>John Fitzgibbons led to most of the too Pretty for

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<v Speaker 1>Jail headlines that ran with most of the news coverage

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<v Speaker 1>of her case. Fitzgibbons said in court to place Debbie

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<v Speaker 1>into a federal state women's penitentiary, to place an attractive

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<v Speaker 1>young woman in that kind of hell hole is like

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<v Speaker 1>putting a piece of raw meat and with the lions. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so she is supposed to be treated differently than everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>I can distinctly remember a photo in which dev Devil

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<v Speaker 1>Faith posed in a bikini. I think she's straddling a

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<v Speaker 1>motorcycle hog possibly Yeah, Okay that said, Take a listen

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<v Speaker 1>to more from our friends at Daily Mail. Debra La

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<v Speaker 1>Faith Aflorida a high school English teacher who had sex

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<v Speaker 1>with her fourteen year old student. One year later, she

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<v Speaker 1>played guilty to two counts of loud and lascivious behavior

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<v Speaker 1>involving a minor. The public outcry was tremendous twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>years old at the time, but Faith blamed her actions

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<v Speaker 1>on being bipolar and hypersexualized, claiming she had been raped

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<v Speaker 1>when she was a teen. Her attorney famously told to

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<v Speaker 1>judge she was too pretty for prison. In the end,

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<v Speaker 1>La Faith played guilty to lud and lascivious behavior. She

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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to just three years house arrest, but branded

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<v Speaker 1>a sex offender. You know there was a teacher arrested

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<v Speaker 1>two days after me, and I saw her on TV one.

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<v Speaker 1>So why do you think you've got all the attention?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'll say it. Do you think it's

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<v Speaker 1>because you're pretty? I think so? And sell The other

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<v Speaker 1>teacher probably didn't make headlines because she was repentant. She

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<v Speaker 1>felt bad about what had happened. She was remorseful, and

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<v Speaker 1>she also didn't say I'm too pretty for jail. You

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<v Speaker 1>were hearing not only our friends and Inside Edition, but

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<v Speaker 1>also our friends at today's show. Debla Fabe is a

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<v Speaker 1>child predator, and yet she is saying she's being punished

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<v Speaker 1>because she's pretty much the same way as him. Bistami

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<v Speaker 1>is right now, and it's not just about a chili's bill.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that thirty forty dollars? I want to take a

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<v Speaker 1>listen to what this is all about. Why is this happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and why is it working? Another thing? You heard our

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<v Speaker 1>friend Jesse Palmer at Daily Mill state she had sex

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<v Speaker 1>with a student. You can't have sex with a minor.

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<v Speaker 1>That is statutory rape because a minor is not, under

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<v Speaker 1>the law able to give consent. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to you, Kurtnermy, you're the high profile lawyer. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is it that a minor, anyone under the age of consent,

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<v Speaker 1>which in many states is eighteen, Why can't a minor

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<v Speaker 1>have consensual sex with an adult? Same reason we don't

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<v Speaker 1>issue them a driver's license or the right to smoke,

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<v Speaker 1>or the right to drink is because they're not developed

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<v Speaker 1>enough to make their own solid choices. And so different

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<v Speaker 1>states have different regulations regarding the age of content. They

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<v Speaker 1>vary for state, but each state makes that moral choice

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<v Speaker 1>of when a person who is able to make an

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<v Speaker 1>informed decision in that regard. Yeah, I'm too pretty for

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<v Speaker 1>jail defense seemingly worked. And trust me, it's not just

0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.640
<v Speaker 1>women that are making this claim. Take listen to our

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Gloria Gomez Fox thirteen. It inspired a movement, You're

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<v Speaker 1>too Cute I follow in love with a criminal? On

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<v Speaker 1>social media. Several Allan's reporting that a number of people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about his eye is calling him too cute. The

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag justice for Cameron Harron and Free Cameron would trend

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and TikTok. Harron's attorney denies he or his

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<v Speaker 1>client's family had anything to do with it. Check experts

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<v Speaker 1>say some Twitter accounts are legit, while others are actually

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<v Speaker 1>Internet bots. Harron is appealing the judges sentence, calling it excessive,

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<v Speaker 1>too cute for jail, I fell in love with a criminal,

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<v Speaker 1>Too cute for jail. Hashtag justice for Cameron Harron and

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<v Speaker 1>free Cameron because he's quote cute. You know what Cameron

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<v Speaker 1>Herron did? Well listen our friend's WTSP. Please say. This

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<v Speaker 1>Mustang was speeding northbound along Base Shore in a race

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<v Speaker 1>against another car when it hit twenty four year old

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica ry Singer as she was pushing a stroller with

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<v Speaker 1>her twenty one month old baby. Now, the driver of

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<v Speaker 1>that car and the driver of the Nissan it was

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<v Speaker 1>racing they did stay at the scene, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>too late for that mom. She and her baby were

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<v Speaker 1>taken to TGH not far from the scene, where the

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<v Speaker 1>mom was pronounced dead. Now the baby is still alive,

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<v Speaker 1>but she is really fighting to survive. Yet a movement

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<v Speaker 1>ensued online. Now this is after the mom is mowed

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<v Speaker 1>down dead and the baby, the baby's life hanging in

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<v Speaker 1>the balance at intensive care. I still say he got

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<v Speaker 1>a sweetheart deal. Take a little an hour cut twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron Herron would decide to do an open plea and

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<v Speaker 1>let the judge decide his fate. The judge had the

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<v Speaker 1>final say, So I count one vehicular homicide. The court's

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<v Speaker 1>going to adjudicate the defending guilty, sends him to nine

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<v Speaker 1>years in the Florida Steep Prison. On account two same charge,

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<v Speaker 1>court will the judicate the defending guilty sends him to

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years Florida Steep Prison. So on a fifteen years sentence,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be out in about seven eight years. Yet his

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer insists that that was much too harsh for a

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<v Speaker 1>client as cute as Cameron Herron. Okay, back to the

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<v Speaker 1>current case and as a backdrop the movement of too

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<v Speaker 1>cute for jail. You know, to you, Lisa Daddio, when

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<v Speaker 1>you deal with cases like Herron's where you see a

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<v Speaker 1>mom and a stroller mowed down on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the road and then you have a petition online claiming

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<v Speaker 1>the defendant is too cute for jail, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the little baby and nick you gasping for life. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how does that make you feel? As the arresting officer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's infuriating and it makes me pause and think, what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck is wrong with this country when you have

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of mentality that it's an excuse why somebody

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be held responsible for the horror that they've inflicted

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<v Speaker 1>on the victims, the families, witnesses, everybody. No David Turns

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<v Speaker 1>joining me, investigated a reporter k l AS eight News.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm looking at the current case Handbastami in her twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>She is pretty. Even I who never think any defendant

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty or attractive, I've got to say I think

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<v Speaker 1>she is. I think she's attractive. She's got long, beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>dark hair, big brown eyes, perfect perfect eyebrows, and a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect mouth. I mean, it looks like somebody drew it

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<v Speaker 1>on and it's all now natural. So where did this

0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:07.600
<v Speaker 1>woman get the idea? Here she is in a swimsuit. Okay, yeah,

0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.119
<v Speaker 1>somebody's been spending a lot of time at the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>So David Charns, Where does this come from? I'm too

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<v Speaker 1>pretty for jail. Do we know that Henboostami worked as

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<v Speaker 1>a DJ in the Las Vegas area. I believe she's

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<v Speaker 1>originally from California, came to Las Vegas with her family,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely lives a lifestyle here where she knows a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. We heard from from past colleagues and friends

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<v Speaker 1>who say, you know sort of what you're alluding to.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a girl who likes to have fun. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that she had a battery charge several months ago at

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<v Speaker 1>a nightclub, So I think someone who's young and free

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoys, you know, living her life here. Oh wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, wait at a battery charge at a bar

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<v Speaker 1>for what? She has? A battery charge? That was that

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<v Speaker 1>original warrant, which is what police were talking to her

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<v Speaker 1>about at the airport. Tell me about the battery incident.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we know about the battery right now? And

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<v Speaker 1>those court documents are are are hard to find and

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:14.520
<v Speaker 1>they're they're looking for them. She was actually charged with

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<v Speaker 1>battery for getting to some sort of argument with security

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<v Speaker 1>out an events space here in Las Vegas back in June.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know the exact specifics. Other than she

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<v Speaker 1>was charged with battery, and then she went to court,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she missed court this summer. Can I just

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<v Speaker 1>analyze what David Charns joining us from KLA KLAS eight said, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine Maloney is joining me deput Chief Medical examin out

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<v Speaker 1>of Erie County at Saint Buffalo. She's at Nicol City

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<v Speaker 1>Forensics dot Com. Now think about this woman hand Bushtami

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<v Speaker 1>too pretty for jail. She's at an event where they

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<v Speaker 1>have alcohol hall and she actually takes on the security guards. Hey, David,

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<v Speaker 1>was that in California? That was in Las Vegas? Vegas? Okay, Catherine,

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<v Speaker 1>security guards in Vegas. They're as big as a fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>They're huge, they look menacing, They're like beefy Doberman pinchers.

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<v Speaker 1>This woman is so convinced of her beauty she takes

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<v Speaker 1>on security guards and has a battery claim, not against

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<v Speaker 1>the security guards against her. Typically, Kathery Maloney is just

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite. It's the other way around. You got a big,

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<v Speaker 1>beefy guy beating on a woman. You don't usually see

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<v Speaker 1>this reversal, doctor, I mean, it's definitely not what you

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<v Speaker 1>expect to see. I mean, especially if you think that

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<v Speaker 1>she thought she was so beautiful, you think that she

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<v Speaker 1>would try to win him over with honey as opposed

0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to very good fight vinegar. Yeah, yeah, remember flies with

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<v Speaker 1>honey than vinegar exactly. I mean, when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>a woman's physique compared to a man, it's almost impossible

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<v Speaker 1>for a woman using just her fists to win a

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<v Speaker 1>fight against a man. Doctor. I mean, definitely, the average

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 1>woman is smaller than the average man. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are exceptions to that general rule, obviously, but looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures of her that were posted, she definitely doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like she's the type of person that could take

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<v Speaker 1>on a Las Vegas security guards, two of them, Kurt Narmy,

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<v Speaker 1>after dealing with murdered defendant Jody Arius for months and

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<v Speaker 1>months and months. I guarantee you this is what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>She went up to these security guards for what to

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<v Speaker 1>get in for getting a joint without allies. It's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, for something, thinking she could win them over

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<v Speaker 1>with her charm, and it didn't work, I guarantee, as

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<v Speaker 1>she slapped one of them. What about at Army, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee that that's exactly what happened. Nancy and I

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<v Speaker 1>think what we really have here is we're finding a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of a woman who can't take no for an answer,

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<v Speaker 1>who will not accept no to what she wants, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of narcissistic urge. And once somebody tays no doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>fall for her charms, then we have violences too. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you guys seen her LinkedIn photo? I mean, this woman

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<v Speaker 1>could be a model, jack. Have you seen her LinkedIn?

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<v Speaker 1>She's perfect, her teeth are perfect. David Charns Klis, Is

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<v Speaker 1>she living at home with her mom? She is? She?

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<v Speaker 1>We know that she lived at home with her mother.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not one hundred percent sure how long her mother

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<v Speaker 1>lived here, but she had been here for several years,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't live together in what we would call

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<v Speaker 1>the suburbs here in Las Vegas, you know, not on

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<v Speaker 1>the strip, far away in a community. Now, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>basically telling me, in a much nicer way, that she's

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<v Speaker 1>a gorgeous young party girl that is a DJ sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>and lives with her mother. Is that right, David Charnes,

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>is what appears to be true? Yes, So she's basically

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<v Speaker 1>got the golden ticket. Mommy's letting her live at home.

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<v Speaker 1>She plays at being a DJ, and I guarantee uses

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<v Speaker 1>that position as a DJ to get in all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of exclusive parties and gatherings like the one where she

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<v Speaker 1>had the altercation with the security guards. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to point out a correct me if I'm wrong, David Charnes.

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<v Speaker 1>When she was first taken into custody there, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the baggage claimed at the airport, she claimed the cops

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<v Speaker 1>were perverts and that they were trying to rape her

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<v Speaker 1>because they had never seen anyone as good looking. That

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<v Speaker 1>is correct. I'm quoting the police airboard because I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>right at it right here. Okay, and this is all over.

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<v Speaker 1>Bustami walking out on a tab at the Chile's restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>inside the airport, she became belligerent and accused them of

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to write her because she was quote white, because

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>they had quote never seen anyone as good looking. Okay,

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>what more do we know about this person? Take a

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>listen to our friends. Klis Neighbors waking up around two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty am police finding a deceased sixty eight year old

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<v Speaker 1>woman covered in lacerations and blood, but they didn't find

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter, twenty eight year old hen to Boostami, who

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<v Speaker 1>they say first called in the death before abruptly hanging up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm using ten o'clock or later, and we would they

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<v Speaker 1>would just be screaming in the backyard, or they'd be fighting,

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<v Speaker 1>and adds Moreno, who lives nearby, says the house in

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<v Speaker 1>question was the loudest on the block. I could always

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 1>hear the screaming and yelling, so I just try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep to myself. And of course is shortly after in

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<v Speaker 1>all the screaming, their police presence would be involved, and

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<v Speaker 1>things were getting on. We'll get settled down, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a week later it happened again, police records showing officers

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<v Speaker 1>were called their twelve times just this year, mostly for

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<v Speaker 1>family disturbances. So apparently her mother did not think that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm too pretty to behave excuse was working either. The

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<v Speaker 1>neighbors could hear them arguing over and over and over.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the loud ones in the neighborhood. Well, the

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>mother was afraid, and she had good reason to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a listen to this nine one one call. We

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>are her friends, but her work called her emergency contact,

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<v Speaker 1>which is another friend, and we're all looking for her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not answering, she's not short uppards and would she

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<v Speaker 1>called me last night going home, she was skinned and

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a less large book. Friend, she's the

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<v Speaker 1>one who actually was arrest of of the airport and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're arrestued for good looks as all over the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Stark, I don't know if you remember the case

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<v Speaker 1>of Heather Mack. This is reminding me of that so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Heather Mac's mother was married to us. I believe she

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<v Speaker 1>was a college professor. She was married to a famous

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<v Speaker 1>jazz musician, and they had Heather their only child, and

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>they treated her like a princess. But police often came

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to the home because Heather Mac had her own mother

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<v Speaker 1>living in fear. She would slap her, would yell at her,

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<v Speaker 1>would be rate her. Finally, in a lastic effort to

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<v Speaker 1>make amends and put their relationship back together, the mom

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<v Speaker 1>takes Heather Mac on an all expense paid luxury vacation

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<v Speaker 1>to Bolly, and then after they've been there a few days,

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<v Speaker 1>the bellhop notices a bag out front, a huge piece

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<v Speaker 1>of luggage, and blood is sleeping from it. Heather Mac

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and her boyfriend had actually killed the mother light we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing in this case with this Tommy. In the Heather

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.959
<v Speaker 1>Mac case, there were eighty six nine one one calls

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<v Speaker 1>made and the mom hens up dead. This is quite

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a phenomena of the daughter berating and attacking the mother.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing that anyone would expect, right, Nancy. Usually

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you feel like there's this unbelievable bond between a mother

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>and a child. But we're talking about a person who

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<v Speaker 1>has no empathy feelings, doesn't really understand that kind of

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:28.199
<v Speaker 1>connection or had the ability to even feel for her

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>mother or love her mother. And so this callous act

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<v Speaker 1>which none of us can really empathize with or shared,

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>this is nothing to that daughter. There's no feeling about

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<v Speaker 1>killing a mother, stuffing her in the suitcase. It's absolutely

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>like she took a doll with the department put in

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<v Speaker 1>the suitcase. No difference time stories with Nancy Grace to

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Daddio For a police lieutenant in Haven, PD, matricide

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<v Speaker 1>is very very rare, and when matricide that the murder

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<v Speaker 1>of your mother occurs, it's usually a son that commits

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<v Speaker 1>the murder. A daughter murdering her mother is almost unheard of, Lisa. Nancy,

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<v Speaker 1>you hit the nail on the head. We I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so rare to see that and you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>it does happen, you try to look for those triggers

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<v Speaker 1>and the signs, and you know what was there along

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<v Speaker 1>the way for a daughter to have that much hatred

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<v Speaker 1>to kill her mother. It's honestly just astonishing. Guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to take a listen to hand Bastami and

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<v Speaker 1>her nine one one call. And this has nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with a battery on a security guard at a

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<v Speaker 1>an elite a sophisticated party, or walking out on a

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<v Speaker 1>chili's tab. Listen, you need police, fire, medical, hi medical.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I killed my mommy? What's your address? That dooms?

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<v Speaker 1>Wis go south? What didn't? False? Guys? Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you killed your mom? Because I did? I murdered her.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you do that? Yes? But looked the table

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<v Speaker 1>on the y and I let it? You did? What

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<v Speaker 1>with the table? I get medical? Medical? Eight seven five nine?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you and my mom? Well? I do need

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<v Speaker 1>to asma? You said what you and flower? Yeah? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do to her? I killed your How

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<v Speaker 1>did you kill her? You said something about a table.

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<v Speaker 1>I ruged the table on your hole. You dropped the

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<v Speaker 1>table on her head. I rubbed the table on her

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<v Speaker 1>head and I taught her, Michael, can you cut? What

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<v Speaker 1>where are you at? Now? I'm in the whole. I

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<v Speaker 1>can hear her saying something about the water. Take a

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<v Speaker 1>listen to our friends Kaylas the nine one one call

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty eight year old woman made after she reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>killed her mother inside their South Valley home. Now. In

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<v Speaker 1>that call, police say, twenty eight year old hen Bustami

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<v Speaker 1>calmly described how she killed her mother before hanging up. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we do want to warn you the details might be disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think you killed your mom? Because I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I murdered her. How did you do that table? Was?

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<v Speaker 1>Stammy told police she used shards of glass or a

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<v Speaker 1>broken table to allegedly stab her mother. After describing what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>was Stammy hung up? Now I remember regardless of what

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<v Speaker 1>you may how you may think, she sounds on the

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<v Speaker 1>nine one one call. Stami is a graduate of the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Nevada, Las Vegas with a full degree in

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<v Speaker 1>Hospitality administration and management, and she is also a dj

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<v Speaker 1>appropriately who goes under the name Aphrodite or Aphrodite, who is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the goddess of beauty. She named herself that

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<v Speaker 1>David Charnes investigative reporter k Las Exactly how did she

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly murder her mother? So what we can tell from

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<v Speaker 1>the police report and obviously the buried disturbing nine on

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<v Speaker 1>one call there is police believe that Henboostami took a

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<v Speaker 1>like a glass table that was in a living room

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<v Speaker 1>and broke it over her mother's head and then, as

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<v Speaker 1>you heard her describe, there, take shards of the table

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<v Speaker 1>and then stab her mother with that. We understand her

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<v Speaker 1>mom was found with several stab wounds and cuts, and

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<v Speaker 1>as Henboostami described in the call herself, she said she

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<v Speaker 1>cut her neck off. I'm so definitely a gruesome, very

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<v Speaker 1>violent act that allegedly happened in there. And then as

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<v Speaker 1>you heard her describe, and you heard the beeping of

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<v Speaker 1>the car and then nine one one call, she then

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<v Speaker 1>got in the car and drove to California, much like

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<v Speaker 1>your client, Kurt and Army counsel to Jodi Arius after

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<v Speaker 1>murdering Travis Alexander, hops in the car, drives across the

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<v Speaker 1>desert and literally hops on and straddles her next boyfriend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we can see that. You know, even though

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<v Speaker 1>she is confessing to this, describing it, you can't see

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<v Speaker 1>that she really is that disturbed by what she's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>She's heading off, she's done with it, and she's moved on.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that just goes to this whole narcissistic

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you know, she was justified what she did

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<v Speaker 1>and it was time for her to move on and

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<v Speaker 1>get on with her life and get away from the

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<v Speaker 1>murder scene. Doctor Katherine Maloney is joining US Deputy Chief

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<v Speaker 1>Medical Examiner Erie County Medical Examiner's office that's in Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can find her at Nickel City Forensics dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Maloney, the force it would have taken to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up one of those glass paneled coffee tables and crash

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<v Speaker 1>it down over her mother's head, that would require a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of physical strength and force. I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 1>think so those types of tables are very heavy, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially if her mother was even sitting, she'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>lift it up several feet in the air and then

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<v Speaker 1>taking shards of the glass and stabbing her mother over

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<v Speaker 1>and over. Doctor Maloney, I believe, and as a layperson,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the MD, I'm just a JD that the mother

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<v Speaker 1>had to know what was happening. If she had been

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<v Speaker 1>killed by just the blow to the head. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not believe that Bustami, her daughter, would have continued to

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<v Speaker 1>stab her. I think she was alive, maybe stunned, but

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<v Speaker 1>that she knew what was happening to her. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's really hard to know, you know, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say. He would hope that she didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what was happening, but yeah, I don't know. Back to

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<v Speaker 1>David Charms about how many stab homes do we know

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<v Speaker 1>the mother suffered, Belice described it as multiple lacerations, which

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<v Speaker 1>would mean scrapes, and then it was sort of revised

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<v Speaker 1>to say that he had had cut as well, because

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<v Speaker 1>according to the coroner, she died of multiple stab wounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many, but as we know from

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<v Speaker 1>covering these cases before, and as you sort of alluded

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<v Speaker 1>to before, these are usually crimes of passion. So generally

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<v Speaker 1>we see multiple multiple stab wounds, and it was enough

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<v Speaker 1>for hand boostomy when she was arrested eventually in California

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<v Speaker 1>to be as police described, just covered in blood. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>take a listen to Candies, Charles. Around two thirty Wednesday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>nine one Dispatch got a call from a woman saying

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<v Speaker 1>her mother was dead. Then the call disconnected. When they arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>they found a sixty two year old woman dead. We

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<v Speaker 1>then started looking for the vehicle and the daughter. CHP

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<v Speaker 1>was able to locate stop her taper at custody about

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<v Speaker 1>five am this morning in Barstow, California. As neighbors started

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the news, some tell me they were shocked,

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<v Speaker 1>but that this was not the first time the police

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<v Speaker 1>were here. She was in handcuffs in front of the house. Scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing she started to fight. Neighbors said that that

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<v Speaker 1>incident happened a couple of months ago, so coss have

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<v Speaker 1>been called over and over to the home. It culminated

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<v Speaker 1>in the murder of Bustami's mother. Take a listen to

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<v Speaker 1>our friends at Klaas eight. The twenty eight year old

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<v Speaker 1>woman accused of killing her mother in the home they

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<v Speaker 1>shared reportedly confessed to the crime and was covered in

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<v Speaker 1>blood during her arrest. Right now, hen Bustami is at

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<v Speaker 1>a California jail. Police say she called them early Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>morning saying quote, I think I killed my mommy. The

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<v Speaker 1>victims was reportedly stabbed several times with shards of glass.

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<v Speaker 1>California Highway Patrol caught up with Bustami in Barstow, California.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know yet when she will be brought back

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<v Speaker 1>to Las Vegas. Two pretty for jail. We'll see about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Gray's Calm story, signing off good bye friend,