Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Two Pretty for jail. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is the defense too pretty to go to jail?
Speaker 1: And guess what, it's not the first time that I'm
Speaker 1: too pretty to go to jail has actually been uttered
Speaker 1: in court now. In this case, it starts with skipping
Speaker 1: out on a Chilies bill. Have you ever been to Chilies?
Speaker 1: They're awesome. Some people call it fast food. It's not.
Speaker 1: It's much more than that. But that Chili's bill just
Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at
Speaker 1: Fox Nation and Serious x one eleven. How did the
Speaker 1: whole oddyssey began? Take a less to our friends at Klas.
Speaker 1: Bostami was arrested at Harry Reid Airport in August after
Speaker 1: skipping out on her restaurant check, threatening to spit on officers,
Speaker 1: and claiming she was being arrested for being too pretty.
Speaker 1: Unusual interactions, neighbors say, we're all too common. She would
Speaker 1: come outside and literally spinning her driveway singing songs. She
Speaker 1: was wanted for skipping out on a Chili's tab at
Speaker 1: read International Airport, but per the arrest report, she claims
Speaker 1: she was being harassed because cops had never seen anyone
Speaker 1: as pretty as her. This is hen Bustami, who was
Speaker 1: arrested near baggage Claim last week. Turns out she had
Speaker 1: an arrest warrant from Las Vegas Municipal Court. Bustami was
Speaker 1: uncooperative while being detained. She was later booked into Clark
Speaker 1: County Detention Center. Two pretty for jail. Well, of course
Speaker 1: it's not the first time we've heard that before, but
Speaker 1: just hold this thought just a moment, too pretty for
Speaker 1: jail joining us David Charns, investigative reporter k l AS
Speaker 1: eight News, Now, that's not pretty threatening to spit on
Speaker 1: or spitting on a cop and crapping out on your
Speaker 1: chili's bill. What's pretty about that? What we saw in
Speaker 1: that arrest report that we obtained someone who was hanging
Speaker 1: out at the airport. You know, Las Vegas is a
Speaker 1: busy place. People are coming in and out all the time.
Speaker 1: We get reports all the time of people doing things
Speaker 1: at the airport. But this one sort of stood out
Speaker 1: a little because on page two it said she refused
Speaker 1: to be arrested or she was getting arrested because she
Speaker 1: was too pretty, and the whole reason police started talking
Speaker 1: to her. Was because she reportedly skipped out on that bill.
Speaker 1: David Charns joining US investigative reporter k l S eight.
Speaker 1: You know, you think if you're going to commit a crime,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't do it at, for instance, a casino, or
Speaker 1: at FBI headquarters in Quan, a co or at an
Speaker 1: airport where there are surveillance cameras everywhere you turn. But
Speaker 1: she did. She skipped out on a chili's bill. Now,
Speaker 1: let me understand something was the chilies inside the airport.
Speaker 1: The chilies was inside the airport, and there are a
Speaker 1: lot of police who walked through the airport. It's a
Speaker 1: busy place, millions of millions of people a year, and
Speaker 1: this was just someone who was doing some strange behaviors
Speaker 1: and police went up and wanted to talk to her.
Speaker 1: It turns out she was the sud thief. I wonder
Speaker 1: what she ordered. Guys, again, this is not the first
Speaker 1: time we've heard the I'm too pretty defense? Does the
Speaker 1: name Lauren cut sharing Abelle Let's our friends at Inside Edition.
Speaker 1: She said she was just too pretty to go to jail.
Speaker 1: When she was arrested for do you want I'm a
Speaker 1: pretty girl? Please go in there, and now it seems
Speaker 1: a judge agrees. Thirty four year old Lauren Cutshaw is
Speaker 1: being given a sweet deal, no jail time, and she
Speaker 1: even gets to keep her driver's license. Countsha, a real
Speaker 1: estate agent from South Carolina, was pulled over after comp's
Speaker 1: state she blew through a stump sign going more than
Speaker 1: twice the speed limit. Put an okay, she was DUI
Speaker 1: blows to a stop sign, but the judge actually let
Speaker 1: her off. I guess he also thought she was too pretty.
Speaker 1: Did you hear her whining? I guess in the seat
Speaker 1: of her car. I'm a pretty girl. Please don't make
Speaker 1: me go in there. Boo hoo woman, Well, let's take
Speaker 1: a listen to more her browdy whining on the way
Speaker 1: to jail went viral last year. Graduating for a while
Speaker 1: really good university, No one was almost able. The Korean
Speaker 1: graduated with three point eight. My guys going on getting
Speaker 1: his scarship to my college. You're on the owner, good cheerleader,
Speaker 1: I mean a beat the wholife. Don't do to jail.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty cal all pleased to be going there. We're
Speaker 1: now learning she has pled guilty to mister meaner duy.
Speaker 1: She was find one hundred and eighty seven dollars in
Speaker 1: order to perform twenty four hours community service and take
Speaker 1: alcohol safety classes. Okay, let's make sure I understand this.
Speaker 1: Joining me kirk Nermi, legal analyst and former league counsel
Speaker 1: too none other than miss Jody Arius, who was called
Speaker 1: a bombshell Gorgias, sexy, seductive, blah blah blah. He's author
Speaker 1: of Trapped with Miss Arius and you can find them
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Insta at Nurmi. Unshane kirk Nurmi, your
Speaker 1: client is also guilty of thinking she was too pretty
Speaker 1: to be prosecuted. That she just believed everybody's going to
Speaker 1: fall for her line about the murder of Travis Alexander
Speaker 1: line and sinker because she was attractive. Other people think
Speaker 1: she's attractive, not me, but apparently she did too. What
Speaker 1: about it an army, Well, let me tell you. I
Speaker 1: think one thing I see with a lot of femail
Speaker 1: criminals when they've heard it just here in the tape
Speaker 1: you just played as a level of narcissi that they
Speaker 1: believe that they should be able to get away with
Speaker 1: anything in their excuses will hold water, and when they
Speaker 1: start to not hold water, they become the victim of
Speaker 1: their own actions and don't realize or don't think that
Speaker 1: anyone's going to hold them to account. I think we
Speaker 1: see that over and over again with a lot of
Speaker 1: these female Karen started joining me. H now psychologists joining
Speaker 1: us out of Manhattan at Karen dot com. That's Karen
Speaker 1: with a C. Karen, have you seen those studies? I
Speaker 1: have the show When a defendant or a person in general,
Speaker 1: not necessarily criminal defendant are attractive, they get better treatment,
Speaker 1: just like that Braddy woman Cutshaw you here whining I
Speaker 1: had a three point eight average. I was a cheerleader.
Speaker 1: Don't see me in jail. I'm a pretty girl. They
Speaker 1: actually do get away with it. Well, people who are
Speaker 1: good looking to get away with a lot more than
Speaker 1: other people. Nancy, what you have here, and remember it
Speaker 1: was the same covering. Jody is somebody who has a
Speaker 1: narcissist without a doubt and has such a strong sense
Speaker 1: of entitlement, and that's not uncommon. I mean, she really
Speaker 1: fits the textbook where she's preoccupied with fantasies of beauty
Speaker 1: and believes that she's special and she needs admiration, envious
Speaker 1: of others, and believes that they're envious of her. It
Speaker 1: all fits who this person is, and she's dangerous because
Speaker 1: she feels that she's a buzzer. Just a quick question.
Speaker 1: You and Nermie are throwing around the term narcissistic, which
Speaker 1: of course is named after the mythological character of Narcissus
Speaker 1: who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool.
Speaker 1: But didn't Narcissus die in the end of the story.
Speaker 1: What happened to Narcissus at the end of that? Does
Speaker 1: anybody know? I mean, Karen start you throw around the
Speaker 1: term narcissistic all the time, but Sidney has just refreshed
Speaker 1: my recollection. Narcissus died staring into his own reflection, and
Speaker 1: it reminds me of the mirror of Earra said and
Speaker 1: Harry Potter, where you see yourself and your deepest desires,
Speaker 1: your see yourself as you want to be, and people
Speaker 1: look at it so long they just starved to death
Speaker 1: and die. They can't leave it. So my point is,
Speaker 1: Kurt Narmy, let's talk about Jodi Arius, your client for
Speaker 1: much longer than you wanted, so attached to her looks.
Speaker 1: I remember she's charged with murder in the States, seeking
Speaker 1: the death penalty. She gives an interview against your wishes,
Speaker 1: and she's caught on camera putting on face powder and lipstick.
Speaker 1: She's worried about her face powder when she's looking at
Speaker 1: death by the needle, She's staring into the mirror literally
Speaker 1: to her death. I mean, did she ever try to
Speaker 1: use her charms her beauty on you? And did it work?
Speaker 1: Let's be honest just a little bit. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know if she tried, but I certainly know it didn't work, Nancy,
Speaker 1: because the nice didn't know somebody to kill her any
Speaker 1: charms or fallen by the wayside. But you're right, you know,
Speaker 1: and we talked about narcissism. Image was always very important
Speaker 1: in this areas. You talked about the clothing, the interviews.
Speaker 1: It actually predated my ten year as a lawyer. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that was always a big deal to her. And I
Speaker 1: think that flows along with this idea of this narcissistic
Speaker 1: female criminal that we were talking about here today Time
Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Lisa Daddio joining us for a
Speaker 1: police lieutenant Newhaven PD and now the Director of the
Speaker 1: Center for Advanced Policing and Graduate Program coordinator University New
Speaker 1: Haven Investigation program, Lisa, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 1: Lisa talking about being beautiful and using that as a weapon,
Speaker 1: believing that you are somehow immune to prosecution. You don't
Speaker 1: have to go to jail because you're so pretty. It's
Speaker 1: not pretty to spit on police officers. Have you ever
Speaker 1: been spat on? Thankfully no, but I've had a lot
Speaker 1: of cops. Practically every cop I know, somebody is spit
Speaker 1: on this. Well, what I was going to say is
Speaker 1: I haven't been, but my partner who had responded with me,
Speaker 1: had been, and so you know, Nancy, it's one of
Speaker 1: those things that is just so despicable. So whether or
Speaker 1: not you think you're so pretty and so beautiful, you
Speaker 1: should not have to play the consequences. Spitting on somebody
Speaker 1: speaks volumes about the type of person you are on
Speaker 1: the inside. I was talking about Cutshaw earlier than one.
Speaker 1: You hear whining about her how beautiful she is and
Speaker 1: her three point eight great average as she was a
Speaker 1: cheerleader in college. Well it worked on a judge, believe
Speaker 1: it or not. But I would have to say the
Speaker 1: all time winner for I'm Too Pretty for Jail would
Speaker 1: have to be Deborah LaFave charged with child molestation. Take
Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at crime Online. An argument
Speaker 1: made in a Florida court room by Deborah La Fave's attorney,
Speaker 1: John Fitzgibbons led to most of the too Pretty for
Speaker 1: Jail headlines that ran with most of the news coverage
Speaker 1: of her case. Fitzgibbons said in court to place Debbie
Speaker 1: into a federal state women's penitentiary, to place an attractive
Speaker 1: young woman in that kind of hell hole is like
Speaker 1: putting a piece of raw meat and with the lions. Okay,
Speaker 1: so she is supposed to be treated differently than everybody else.
Speaker 1: I can distinctly remember a photo in which dev Devil
Speaker 1: Faith posed in a bikini. I think she's straddling a
Speaker 1: motorcycle hog possibly Yeah, Okay that said, Take a listen
Speaker 1: to more from our friends at Daily Mail. Debra La
Speaker 1: Faith Aflorida a high school English teacher who had sex
Speaker 1: with her fourteen year old student. One year later, she
Speaker 1: played guilty to two counts of loud and lascivious behavior
Speaker 1: involving a minor. The public outcry was tremendous twenty four
Speaker 1: years old at the time, but Faith blamed her actions
Speaker 1: on being bipolar and hypersexualized, claiming she had been raped
Speaker 1: when she was a teen. Her attorney famously told to
Speaker 1: judge she was too pretty for prison. In the end,
Speaker 1: La Faith played guilty to lud and lascivious behavior. She
Speaker 1: was sentenced to just three years house arrest, but branded
Speaker 1: a sex offender. You know there was a teacher arrested
Speaker 1: two days after me, and I saw her on TV one.
Speaker 1: So why do you think you've got all the attention?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll say it. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: because you're pretty? I think so? And sell The other
Speaker 1: teacher probably didn't make headlines because she was repentant. She
Speaker 1: felt bad about what had happened. She was remorseful, and
Speaker 1: she also didn't say I'm too pretty for jail. You
Speaker 1: were hearing not only our friends and Inside Edition, but
Speaker 1: also our friends at today's show. Debla Fabe is a
Speaker 1: child predator, and yet she is saying she's being punished
Speaker 1: because she's pretty much the same way as him. Bistami
Speaker 1: is right now, and it's not just about a chili's bill.
Speaker 1: What's that thirty forty dollars? I want to take a
Speaker 1: listen to what this is all about. Why is this happening,
Speaker 1: and why is it working? Another thing? You heard our
Speaker 1: friend Jesse Palmer at Daily Mill state she had sex
Speaker 1: with a student. You can't have sex with a minor.
Speaker 1: That is statutory rape because a minor is not, under
Speaker 1: the law able to give consent. And I want to
Speaker 1: go to you, Kurtnermy, you're the high profile lawyer. Why
Speaker 1: is it that a minor, anyone under the age of consent,
Speaker 1: which in many states is eighteen, Why can't a minor
Speaker 1: have consensual sex with an adult? Same reason we don't
Speaker 1: issue them a driver's license or the right to smoke,
Speaker 1: or the right to drink is because they're not developed
Speaker 1: enough to make their own solid choices. And so different
Speaker 1: states have different regulations regarding the age of content. They
Speaker 1: vary for state, but each state makes that moral choice
Speaker 1: of when a person who is able to make an
Speaker 1: informed decision in that regard. Yeah, I'm too pretty for
Speaker 1: jail defense seemingly worked. And trust me, it's not just
Speaker 1: women that are making this claim. Take listen to our
Speaker 1: Frank Gloria Gomez Fox thirteen. It inspired a movement, You're
Speaker 1: too Cute I follow in love with a criminal? On
Speaker 1: social media. Several Allan's reporting that a number of people
Speaker 1: talk about his eye is calling him too cute. The
Speaker 1: hashtag justice for Cameron Harron and Free Cameron would trend
Speaker 1: on Twitter and TikTok. Harron's attorney denies he or his
Speaker 1: client's family had anything to do with it. Check experts
Speaker 1: say some Twitter accounts are legit, while others are actually
Speaker 1: Internet bots. Harron is appealing the judges sentence, calling it excessive,
Speaker 1: too cute for jail, I fell in love with a criminal,
Speaker 1: Too cute for jail. Hashtag justice for Cameron Harron and
Speaker 1: free Cameron because he's quote cute. You know what Cameron
Speaker 1: Herron did? Well listen our friend's WTSP. Please say. This
Speaker 1: Mustang was speeding northbound along Base Shore in a race
Speaker 1: against another car when it hit twenty four year old
Speaker 1: Jessica ry Singer as she was pushing a stroller with
Speaker 1: her twenty one month old baby. Now, the driver of
Speaker 1: that car and the driver of the Nissan it was
Speaker 1: racing they did stay at the scene, but it was
Speaker 1: too late for that mom. She and her baby were
Speaker 1: taken to TGH not far from the scene, where the
Speaker 1: mom was pronounced dead. Now the baby is still alive,
Speaker 1: but she is really fighting to survive. Yet a movement
Speaker 1: ensued online. Now this is after the mom is mowed
Speaker 1: down dead and the baby, the baby's life hanging in
Speaker 1: the balance at intensive care. I still say he got
Speaker 1: a sweetheart deal. Take a little an hour cut twelve.
Speaker 1: Cameron Herron would decide to do an open plea and
Speaker 1: let the judge decide his fate. The judge had the
Speaker 1: final say, So I count one vehicular homicide. The court's
Speaker 1: going to adjudicate the defending guilty, sends him to nine
Speaker 1: years in the Florida Steep Prison. On account two same charge,
Speaker 1: court will the judicate the defending guilty sends him to
Speaker 1: fifteen years Florida Steep Prison. So on a fifteen years sentence,
Speaker 1: he'll be out in about seven eight years. Yet his
Speaker 1: lawyer insists that that was much too harsh for a
Speaker 1: client as cute as Cameron Herron. Okay, back to the
Speaker 1: current case and as a backdrop the movement of too
Speaker 1: cute for jail. You know, to you, Lisa Daddio, when
Speaker 1: you deal with cases like Herron's where you see a
Speaker 1: mom and a stroller mowed down on the side of
Speaker 1: the road and then you have a petition online claiming
Speaker 1: the defendant is too cute for jail, and you've got
Speaker 1: the little baby and nick you gasping for life. I mean,
Speaker 1: how does that make you feel? As the arresting officer.
Speaker 1: It's infuriating and it makes me pause and think, what
Speaker 1: the heck is wrong with this country when you have
Speaker 1: that kind of mentality that it's an excuse why somebody
Speaker 1: shouldn't be held responsible for the horror that they've inflicted
Speaker 1: on the victims, the families, witnesses, everybody. No David Turns
Speaker 1: joining me, investigated a reporter k l AS eight News.
Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at the current case Handbastami in her twenties.
Speaker 1: She is pretty. Even I who never think any defendant
Speaker 1: is pretty or attractive, I've got to say I think
Speaker 1: she is. I think she's attractive. She's got long, beautiful
Speaker 1: dark hair, big brown eyes, perfect perfect eyebrows, and a
Speaker 1: perfect mouth. I mean, it looks like somebody drew it
Speaker 1: on and it's all now natural. So where did this
Speaker 1: woman get the idea? Here she is in a swimsuit. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody's been spending a lot of time at the gym.
Speaker 1: So David Charns, Where does this come from? I'm too
Speaker 1: pretty for jail. Do we know that Henboostami worked as
Speaker 1: a DJ in the Las Vegas area. I believe she's
Speaker 1: originally from California, came to Las Vegas with her family,
Speaker 1: definitely lives a lifestyle here where she knows a lot
Speaker 1: of people. We heard from from past colleagues and friends
Speaker 1: who say, you know sort of what you're alluding to.
Speaker 1: She's a girl who likes to have fun. We know
Speaker 1: that she had a battery charge several months ago at
Speaker 1: a nightclub, So I think someone who's young and free
Speaker 1: and enjoys, you know, living her life here. Oh wait
Speaker 1: a minute, wait at a battery charge at a bar
Speaker 1: for what? She has? A battery charge? That was that
Speaker 1: original warrant, which is what police were talking to her
Speaker 1: about at the airport. Tell me about the battery incident.
Speaker 1: So what we know about the battery right now? And
Speaker 1: those court documents are are are hard to find and
Speaker 1: they're they're looking for them. She was actually charged with
Speaker 1: battery for getting to some sort of argument with security
Speaker 1: out an events space here in Las Vegas back in June.
Speaker 1: And I don't know the exact specifics. Other than she
Speaker 1: was charged with battery, and then she went to court,
Speaker 1: and then she missed court this summer. Can I just
Speaker 1: analyze what David Charns joining us from KLA KLAS eight said, Um,
Speaker 1: Catherine Maloney is joining me deput Chief Medical examin out
Speaker 1: of Erie County at Saint Buffalo. She's at Nicol City
Speaker 1: Forensics dot Com. Now think about this woman hand Bushtami
Speaker 1: too pretty for jail. She's at an event where they
Speaker 1: have alcohol hall and she actually takes on the security guards. Hey, David,
Speaker 1: was that in California? That was in Las Vegas? Vegas? Okay, Catherine,
Speaker 1: security guards in Vegas. They're as big as a fridge.
Speaker 1: They're huge, they look menacing, They're like beefy Doberman pinchers.
Speaker 1: This woman is so convinced of her beauty she takes
Speaker 1: on security guards and has a battery claim, not against
Speaker 1: the security guards against her. Typically, Kathery Maloney is just
Speaker 1: the opposite. It's the other way around. You got a big,
Speaker 1: beefy guy beating on a woman. You don't usually see
Speaker 1: this reversal, doctor, I mean, it's definitely not what you
Speaker 1: expect to see. I mean, especially if you think that
Speaker 1: she thought she was so beautiful, you think that she
Speaker 1: would try to win him over with honey as opposed
Speaker 1: to very good fight vinegar. Yeah, yeah, remember flies with
Speaker 1: honey than vinegar exactly. I mean, when you look at
Speaker 1: a woman's physique compared to a man, it's almost impossible
Speaker 1: for a woman using just her fists to win a
Speaker 1: fight against a man. Doctor. I mean, definitely, the average
Speaker 1: woman is smaller than the average man. I mean, there
Speaker 1: are exceptions to that general rule, obviously, but looking at
Speaker 1: the pictures of her that were posted, she definitely doesn't
Speaker 1: look like she's the type of person that could take
Speaker 1: on a Las Vegas security guards, two of them, Kurt Narmy,
Speaker 1: after dealing with murdered defendant Jody Arius for months and
Speaker 1: months and months. I guarantee you this is what happened.
Speaker 1: She went up to these security guards for what to
Speaker 1: get in for getting a joint without allies. It's I
Speaker 1: don't know, for something, thinking she could win them over
Speaker 1: with her charm, and it didn't work, I guarantee, as
Speaker 1: she slapped one of them. What about at Army, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guarantee that that's exactly what happened. Nancy and I
Speaker 1: think what we really have here is we're finding a
Speaker 1: picture of a woman who can't take no for an answer,
Speaker 1: who will not accept no to what she wants, that
Speaker 1: kind of narcissistic urge. And once somebody tays no doesn't
Speaker 1: fall for her charms, then we have violences too. Have
Speaker 1: you guys seen her LinkedIn photo? I mean, this woman
Speaker 1: could be a model, jack. Have you seen her LinkedIn?
Speaker 1: She's perfect, her teeth are perfect. David Charns Klis, Is
Speaker 1: she living at home with her mom? She is? She?
Speaker 1: We know that she lived at home with her mother.
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure how long her mother
Speaker 1: lived here, but she had been here for several years,
Speaker 1: and they didn't live together in what we would call
Speaker 1: the suburbs here in Las Vegas, you know, not on
Speaker 1: the strip, far away in a community. Now, so you're
Speaker 1: basically telling me, in a much nicer way, that she's
Speaker 1: a gorgeous young party girl that is a DJ sometimes
Speaker 1: and lives with her mother. Is that right, David Charnes,
Speaker 1: is what appears to be true? Yes, So she's basically
Speaker 1: got the golden ticket. Mommy's letting her live at home.
Speaker 1: She plays at being a DJ, and I guarantee uses
Speaker 1: that position as a DJ to get in all sorts
Speaker 1: of exclusive parties and gatherings like the one where she
Speaker 1: had the altercation with the security guards. And I want
Speaker 1: to point out a correct me if I'm wrong, David Charnes.
Speaker 1: When she was first taken into custody there, I guess
Speaker 1: the baggage claimed at the airport, she claimed the cops
Speaker 1: were perverts and that they were trying to rape her
Speaker 1: because they had never seen anyone as good looking. That
Speaker 1: is correct. I'm quoting the police airboard because I'm looking
Speaker 1: right at it right here. Okay, and this is all over.
Speaker 1: Bustami walking out on a tab at the Chile's restaurant
Speaker 1: inside the airport, she became belligerent and accused them of
Speaker 1: wanting to write her because she was quote white, because
Speaker 1: they had quote never seen anyone as good looking. Okay,
Speaker 1: what more do we know about this person? Take a
Speaker 1: listen to our friends. Klis Neighbors waking up around two
Speaker 1: thirty am police finding a deceased sixty eight year old
Speaker 1: woman covered in lacerations and blood, but they didn't find
Speaker 1: her daughter, twenty eight year old hen to Boostami, who
Speaker 1: they say first called in the death before abruptly hanging up.
Speaker 1: I'm using ten o'clock or later, and we would they
Speaker 1: would just be screaming in the backyard, or they'd be fighting,
Speaker 1: and adds Moreno, who lives nearby, says the house in
Speaker 1: question was the loudest on the block. I could always
Speaker 1: hear the screaming and yelling, so I just try to
Speaker 1: keep to myself. And of course is shortly after in
Speaker 1: all the screaming, their police presence would be involved, and
Speaker 1: things were getting on. We'll get settled down, and then
Speaker 1: a week later it happened again, police records showing officers
Speaker 1: were called their twelve times just this year, mostly for
Speaker 1: family disturbances. So apparently her mother did not think that
Speaker 1: I'm too pretty to behave excuse was working either. The
Speaker 1: neighbors could hear them arguing over and over and over.
Speaker 1: They were the loud ones in the neighborhood. Well, the
Speaker 1: mother was afraid, and she had good reason to be.
Speaker 1: Take a listen to this nine one one call. We
Speaker 1: are her friends, but her work called her emergency contact,
Speaker 1: which is another friend, and we're all looking for her.
Speaker 1: She's not answering, she's not short uppards and would she
Speaker 1: called me last night going home, she was skinned and
Speaker 1: and that was a less large book. Friend, she's the
Speaker 1: one who actually was arrest of of the airport and said,
Speaker 1: you're arrestued for good looks as all over the news.
Speaker 1: Karen Stark, I don't know if you remember the case
Speaker 1: of Heather Mack. This is reminding me of that so much.
Speaker 1: Heather Mac's mother was married to us. I believe she
Speaker 1: was a college professor. She was married to a famous
Speaker 1: jazz musician, and they had Heather their only child, and
Speaker 1: they treated her like a princess. But police often came
Speaker 1: to the home because Heather Mac had her own mother
Speaker 1: living in fear. She would slap her, would yell at her,
Speaker 1: would be rate her. Finally, in a lastic effort to
Speaker 1: make amends and put their relationship back together, the mom
Speaker 1: takes Heather Mac on an all expense paid luxury vacation
Speaker 1: to Bolly, and then after they've been there a few days,
Speaker 1: the bellhop notices a bag out front, a huge piece
Speaker 1: of luggage, and blood is sleeping from it. Heather Mac
Speaker 1: and her boyfriend had actually killed the mother light we're
Speaker 1: hearing in this case with this Tommy. In the Heather
Speaker 1: Mac case, there were eighty six nine one one calls
Speaker 1: made and the mom hens up dead. This is quite
Speaker 1: a phenomena of the daughter berating and attacking the mother.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that anyone would expect, right, Nancy. Usually
Speaker 1: you feel like there's this unbelievable bond between a mother
Speaker 1: and a child. But we're talking about a person who
Speaker 1: has no empathy feelings, doesn't really understand that kind of
Speaker 1: connection or had the ability to even feel for her
Speaker 1: mother or love her mother. And so this callous act
Speaker 1: which none of us can really empathize with or shared,
Speaker 1: this is nothing to that daughter. There's no feeling about
Speaker 1: killing a mother, stuffing her in the suitcase. It's absolutely
Speaker 1: like she took a doll with the department put in
Speaker 1: the suitcase. No difference time stories with Nancy Grace to
Speaker 1: Lisa Daddio For a police lieutenant in Haven, PD, matricide
Speaker 1: is very very rare, and when matricide that the murder
Speaker 1: of your mother occurs, it's usually a son that commits
Speaker 1: the murder. A daughter murdering her mother is almost unheard of, Lisa. Nancy,
Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head. We I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so rare to see that and you know, if
Speaker 1: it does happen, you try to look for those triggers
Speaker 1: and the signs, and you know what was there along
Speaker 1: the way for a daughter to have that much hatred
Speaker 1: to kill her mother. It's honestly just astonishing. Guys. I
Speaker 1: want you to take a listen to hand Bastami and
Speaker 1: her nine one one call. And this has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with a battery on a security guard at a
Speaker 1: an elite a sophisticated party, or walking out on a
Speaker 1: chili's tab. Listen, you need police, fire, medical, hi medical.
Speaker 1: I think I killed my mommy? What's your address? That dooms?
Speaker 1: Wis go south? What didn't? False? Guys? Why do you
Speaker 1: think you killed your mom? Because I did? I murdered her.
Speaker 1: How did you do that? Yes? But looked the table
Speaker 1: on the y and I let it? You did? What
Speaker 1: with the table? I get medical? Medical? Eight seven five nine?
Speaker 1: Where are you and my mom? Well? I do need
Speaker 1: to asma? You said what you and flower? Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1: What did you do to her? I killed your How
Speaker 1: did you kill her? You said something about a table.
Speaker 1: I ruged the table on your hole. You dropped the
Speaker 1: table on her head. I rubbed the table on her
Speaker 1: head and I taught her, Michael, can you cut? What
Speaker 1: where are you at? Now? I'm in the whole. I
Speaker 1: can hear her saying something about the water. Take a
Speaker 1: listen to our friends Kaylas the nine one one call
Speaker 1: a twenty eight year old woman made after she reportedly
Speaker 1: killed her mother inside their South Valley home. Now. In
Speaker 1: that call, police say, twenty eight year old hen Bustami
Speaker 1: calmly described how she killed her mother before hanging up. Now,
Speaker 1: we do want to warn you the details might be disturbing.
Speaker 1: Why do you think you killed your mom? Because I did.
Speaker 1: I murdered her. How did you do that table? Was?
Speaker 1: Stammy told police she used shards of glass or a
Speaker 1: broken table to allegedly stab her mother. After describing what happened,
Speaker 1: was Stammy hung up? Now I remember regardless of what
Speaker 1: you may how you may think, she sounds on the
Speaker 1: nine one one call. Stami is a graduate of the
Speaker 1: University of Nevada, Las Vegas with a full degree in
Speaker 1: Hospitality administration and management, and she is also a dj
Speaker 1: appropriately who goes under the name Aphrodite or Aphrodite, who is,
Speaker 1: of course the goddess of beauty. She named herself that
Speaker 1: David Charnes investigative reporter k Las Exactly how did she
Speaker 1: allegedly murder her mother? So what we can tell from
Speaker 1: the police report and obviously the buried disturbing nine on
Speaker 1: one call there is police believe that Henboostami took a
Speaker 1: like a glass table that was in a living room
Speaker 1: and broke it over her mother's head and then, as
Speaker 1: you heard her describe, there, take shards of the table
Speaker 1: and then stab her mother with that. We understand her
Speaker 1: mom was found with several stab wounds and cuts, and
Speaker 1: as Henboostami described in the call herself, she said she
Speaker 1: cut her neck off. I'm so definitely a gruesome, very
Speaker 1: violent act that allegedly happened in there. And then as
Speaker 1: you heard her describe, and you heard the beeping of
Speaker 1: the car and then nine one one call, she then
Speaker 1: got in the car and drove to California, much like
Speaker 1: your client, Kurt and Army counsel to Jodi Arius after
Speaker 1: murdering Travis Alexander, hops in the car, drives across the
Speaker 1: desert and literally hops on and straddles her next boyfriend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we can see that. You know, even though
Speaker 1: she is confessing to this, describing it, you can't see
Speaker 1: that she really is that disturbed by what she's doing.
Speaker 1: She's heading off, she's done with it, and she's moved on.
Speaker 1: And I think that just goes to this whole narcissistic
Speaker 1: idea that you know, she was justified what she did
Speaker 1: and it was time for her to move on and
Speaker 1: get on with her life and get away from the
Speaker 1: murder scene. Doctor Katherine Maloney is joining US Deputy Chief
Speaker 1: Medical Examiner Erie County Medical Examiner's office that's in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and you can find her at Nickel City Forensics dot com.
Speaker 1: Doctor Maloney, the force it would have taken to pick
Speaker 1: up one of those glass paneled coffee tables and crash
Speaker 1: it down over her mother's head, that would require a
Speaker 1: lot of physical strength and force. I mean, I would
Speaker 1: think so those types of tables are very heavy, and
Speaker 1: especially if her mother was even sitting, she'd have to
Speaker 1: lift it up several feet in the air and then
Speaker 1: taking shards of the glass and stabbing her mother over
Speaker 1: and over. Doctor Maloney, I believe, and as a layperson,
Speaker 1: you're the MD, I'm just a JD that the mother
Speaker 1: had to know what was happening. If she had been
Speaker 1: killed by just the blow to the head. I do
Speaker 1: not believe that Bustami, her daughter, would have continued to
Speaker 1: stab her. I think she was alive, maybe stunned, but
Speaker 1: that she knew what was happening to her. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to know, you know, it's really
Speaker 1: hard to say. He would hope that she didn't know
Speaker 1: what was happening, but yeah, I don't know. Back to
Speaker 1: David Charms about how many stab homes do we know
Speaker 1: the mother suffered, Belice described it as multiple lacerations, which
Speaker 1: would mean scrapes, and then it was sort of revised
Speaker 1: to say that he had had cut as well, because
Speaker 1: according to the coroner, she died of multiple stab wounds.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many, but as we know from
Speaker 1: covering these cases before, and as you sort of alluded
Speaker 1: to before, these are usually crimes of passion. So generally
Speaker 1: we see multiple multiple stab wounds, and it was enough
Speaker 1: for hand boostomy when she was arrested eventually in California
Speaker 1: to be as police described, just covered in blood. Guys,
Speaker 1: take a listen to Candies, Charles. Around two thirty Wednesday morning,
Speaker 1: nine one Dispatch got a call from a woman saying
Speaker 1: her mother was dead. Then the call disconnected. When they arrived,
Speaker 1: they found a sixty two year old woman dead. We
Speaker 1: then started looking for the vehicle and the daughter. CHP
Speaker 1: was able to locate stop her taper at custody about
Speaker 1: five am this morning in Barstow, California. As neighbors started
Speaker 1: to hear the news, some tell me they were shocked,
Speaker 1: but that this was not the first time the police
Speaker 1: were here. She was in handcuffs in front of the house. Scheme,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing she started to fight. Neighbors said that that
Speaker 1: incident happened a couple of months ago, so coss have
Speaker 1: been called over and over to the home. It culminated
Speaker 1: in the murder of Bustami's mother. Take a listen to
Speaker 1: our friends at Klaas eight. The twenty eight year old
Speaker 1: woman accused of killing her mother in the home they
Speaker 1: shared reportedly confessed to the crime and was covered in
Speaker 1: blood during her arrest. Right now, hen Bustami is at
Speaker 1: a California jail. Police say she called them early Wednesday
Speaker 1: morning saying quote, I think I killed my mommy. The
Speaker 1: victims was reportedly stabbed several times with shards of glass.
Speaker 1: California Highway Patrol caught up with Bustami in Barstow, California.
Speaker 1: We don't know yet when she will be brought back
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas. Two pretty for jail. We'll see about that.
Speaker 1: Nancy Gray's Calm story, signing off good bye friend,