1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: John returns next week. Mark Thompson's sitting in. Always great 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: to see this guy walk through the door as an 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: award winning reporter. I mean he has, you know, all 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: of the hardware through the years. But it's great to 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: see Steve Gregory. And you know, Steve, I heard. Now 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: I'll get to the story that you're here to talk 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: about here. It's sort of this crim story, a tough 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: way to end the year. But I heard something else 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: you did, and I literally stayed in the car. I 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: was at the mall. This is just two days ago. 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: I was at the Sherman Oats Mall and I stayed 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: in the car to listen. I thought it was so compelling. 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: It was the special that you'd done about I guess 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: it was anti Semitism. 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: Is that the Yeah, it's hate colin modern anti semitism. 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: That was the special. 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. And you had all of these conversations that I 20 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: thought were really interesting. You were in all of these 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: situations and places, and you described various things that reflected 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: a kind of both rise in this kind of hate 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: and also opinions about it, you know, like where it started, 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: why it's so persistent, why it's being amplified. And then 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: I saw you the other day yesterday because it was 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: and I said, hey man, I really love that show 27 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: you and you kind of looked at me quizically and 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: you go, oh, and you told me what. 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: That that was a special that I produced Jacob Gonzalez 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: and I produced that last year, I mean last December 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: for airing on January February of this year, I guess, 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 3: so a year ago. 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: So the most remarkable thing in that response was, oh 34 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: my god, it's as though you had produced that special 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: an hour ago. 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: And that that's one of the reasons why our program director, 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: Robin Berlucci and I discussed it, and that's why she 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: wanted to replay it, because it was when we do 39 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: these specials that we do, we try to do in 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: what we call in the business, evergreen, so that they're 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: good all year long. Some of them we can't, obviously 42 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: for timing reasons. But sadly Mark as you as you 43 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: are keenly aware, the anti Semitism issue is not going away. 44 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: It's been exacerbated, and so with everything that's been going 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: on recently and all the coverage we've been doing of 46 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: these protests lately, Robin and I talked about and was like, 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: you know, with holiday programming, why not put this back 48 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: in there in the middle of the day, because these 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: are specials that typically air on the weekends, and she 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: wanted to give it some primetime exposure. And you know, 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: I appreciate your kind words on that, and you know, 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: and I got a lot every time that thing airs, 53 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 3: I get a lot of feedback. And what people don't 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: realize too if they if they didn't listen to the special, 55 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: that the extended interviews, all the raw unedited interviews are 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: on the podcast. Really, so the hate anti modern anti 57 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: Semitism is on the iHeartRadio app. And it's got every 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: guest that we've had on there, and some bonus guests 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: that we didn't have room for. 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 4: We have their entire interviews. 61 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: That's what's great. That's what's great about the app and 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: about the ways that you can add these various things 63 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: adjacent to the main stuff. But you had edited it. 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: It's so tightly done. It really a compelling thing. And 65 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: by the way, I thought it was insightful, Like I 66 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: learned stuff listening to it, so I do recommend it. 67 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: So again it's. 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: Called hate modern anti Semitism. Great, check it out. I 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: learned a ton. You know, I don't know if you've 70 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 3: ever known this or not, but I never worked with 71 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: Jewish people until I moved to California. I really didn't, 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: And so I didn't know anything about the Jewish culture. 73 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: You grew up in Arizona, where you growing up, Colorado, Colorado, 74 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: southern Colorado, So it was all Mexicans and Italians, uh huh. 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: And I would meet the occasional Jewish person along the way, 76 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: but I never worked side by side, and I never 77 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: really had any Jewish friends. 78 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 79 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: And then in Phoenix, same way, a lot of Hispanics 80 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: I worked with. But then when I got out here, 81 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: and then it's like, you know, everywhere I turn around 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: here I'm working with a Jewish person. But so I 83 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: was immediately immersed in the Jewish culture out here, sure, 84 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: between Robin and Handel and everybody else. And I've I've 85 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: enjoyed learning about the Jewish culture. So when I was 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: doing this special and the one on the Israeli War 87 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: we did. 88 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: A month or so ago, I've learned so much. 89 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I got to tell you Bill Handle when 90 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: I interviewed him for the Israeli War special in the 91 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: History of the Israeli you know, Gaza and Palestinian conflict 92 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: and all that and stuff, and Bill is one hell 93 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: of a historian. Sure, sure, But I think my point 94 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: is I've I learned. I learned a great deal as well. 95 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, I was on the Middle East thing. 96 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: I always say, it really depends on when you've walked 97 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: into the movie. I mean, if you're just getting into it, 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: which I think a lot of people are, yeh, then 99 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: it's really leaving you out of the beginning of the movie, 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: which you must know in order to understand the end 101 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: of the movie exactly. And I don't know that's the end, 102 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: but I mean, at least where we are. Look, you've 103 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: called you've been called us some grim situations and stories, 104 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: and I feel like this is one of them. 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: At the end of the year, this breaking story. 106 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, on Christmas Eve, around seven o'clock in the morning, 107 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: campus police from El Camino College in Torrance were called 108 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: to the scene on campus, and when officers arrived, they 109 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: found this Asian woman in her mid to late sixties 110 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: on the ground and she had been beaten and bludgeoned 111 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: with a sledgehammer, and they called in the La County 112 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: Sheriff's Department's homicide bureau because a lot of college police 113 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 3: departments are ill equipped to handle homicide cases in cases 114 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: of this magnitude. And let me back up, she hadn't 115 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 3: been declared dead on the scene of the campus. She 116 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: was immediately taken to the hospital when detectives from the 117 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: Sheriff's department came in and started to research and look 118 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: at what was going on. They found a man that 119 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: they say is responsible for this beating. He's forty year 120 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: old Jeffrey Davis, and he only lived just a short 121 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: distance from the campus, or at least that's where they 122 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: arrested him from. We'll come to find out. He'd used 123 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: a sledgehammer to bludge in this woman to death. And 124 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: the woman was just out looking for cans and bottles 125 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: recyclables in the trash cans on campus. And it's not 126 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: clear if either of the two was a student on 127 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: campus or what the connection, if any was, that's the 128 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: mystery right now, but it just and then she ended 129 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: up dying the next day on Christmas Day. 130 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: Now, what a brutal horror, that is, And I just 131 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: wonder how they was. I guess it must have been 132 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: video that they had. I mean, how do they identify those? 133 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's going to be you know, if there 134 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: might have been a witness on scene, because there might 135 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: have been joggers and people taking a walk walking their 136 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: dogs that morning. It was probably a combination of witnesses 137 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: and with videotape because you know, college campuses are just 138 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: packed with surveillance footage or surveillance cameras, so they were 139 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: able to at least put all that together find themselves 140 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: a suspect. And it's to me, it's pretty remarkable that 141 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: they were able to identify this man and track him 142 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 3: down so quickly. They might have some sort of intel 143 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: that led them that direction, and maybe this person is 144 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: known to the to the campus police. 145 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: That's all the thing. 146 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: I mean, who's cruising around a college campus with a 147 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: sledgehammer to the whole thing is just so ugly and awful. 148 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: And well, here's the thing, then, reason that we bring 149 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: up race in this kind of thing because sadly, now 150 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: in our business, hate crimes have also just drastically increased, 151 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: so we now have to be cognizant of whether or 152 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: not these could be related to a race or a 153 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: hate crime or any kind of a race incident. So 154 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: that's why you have to identify now that it's a 155 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: black man on an Asian woman. We're not sure if 156 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: if this could be a hate crime, and that's why 157 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: it's important we make mention. 158 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry that we have to meet over such 159 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: a grim story, but. 160 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we went right from the from anti semitism. 161 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, nice job. Bring in one of those 162 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: like lighthearted kickers. 163 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: Do you want to talk about, maestro? We can talk 164 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 4: about that after the breaks. 165 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the what did you think the movie? 166 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: I will tell you man. 167 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: I can I tell everybody who may not know this 168 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: about Steve Gregory that he is a I've been. 169 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: I got into college on a conducting and percussion scholarship. 170 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so this is good. Yeah, stay over and 171 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: we'll just do a little maestrow when you come back. 172 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: Just breash it up a bit, all right. Yeah, we 173 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: feel bad leaving the audience to downcast. So Steve w's 174 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: sheriff and I just saw the film myself, so we'll 175 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: get to that. 176 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 5: And I saw it too. I thought the acting was amazing. 177 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: All right. So jeffyr is involved too. This is a 178 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: let's have a hodown. We'll do it next. It's all 179 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: around the movie Maestro. It is the co Belt Show, 180 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson sitting in on KFI AM six forty live 181 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 182 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Coblt on demand from KFI AM 183 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 6: six forty. 184 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: Do you recognize this crescendo from It gives it chills, 185 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily, Greg Ray, that's from the movie, Maestro. That 186 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: piece of music used in that film. It is the 187 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: John Cobalt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in for John and 188 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: that again a literal crescendo because it's the orchestra coming 189 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: together in that way. But the sort of a crescendo 190 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: to the movie too, wasn't it. 191 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Gustav Mahler's Second Symphony, also known as the Resurrection, 192 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: that performance right there in nineteen seventy four and in 193 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: the Cathedral. I can't remember the name of the cathedral 194 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: in New York. It escapes me. But Bernstein did that 195 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: as a tribute to John F. Kennedy, to you know, 196 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: he was commemorating the anniversary of his assassination. But that, 197 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, is a It's one of the pivotal 198 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: scenes in the movie Maestro with Bradley Cooper in the 199 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 3: role of Leonard Bernstein. 200 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: What did this is? I am six shorty by the 201 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: way live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and I was 202 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: mentioning before the break Deborah Mark saw it. You saw it. 203 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: It's been seen by many people. This it's a bio 204 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: pick as they call it, right, it's it is. It's 205 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: just a slice of who he was, isn't it. 206 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: It really focuses more on the relationship he had with 207 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: his wife and how they met, and the fact that 208 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: Bernstein was struggling with his bisexuality and and his the 209 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 3: demons he was struggling with. I mean, he's one of 210 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: the most contemporary genius geniuses of our time. I mean, 211 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: the guy was responsible for West the music of West 212 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: Side Story on the Waterfront, and I mean the guy 213 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: has a number of credits to his name, but he 214 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: was never satisfied with that because he people kept looking 215 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: at him as just a Broadway writer. But he wanted 216 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: to be known as he wanted to be known up 217 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: there with Maler Beethoven and Lists and all of these 218 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 3: other classic, you know, behemoths, and he wanted to be 219 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: in that stratosphere with him, and I thought he was, 220 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: but he was never happy with that. 221 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because you point out one of the 222 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 2: things that many have been frustrated with, which is as 223 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: they watched the movie and they didn't know Bernstein the 224 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: way you did, and do you say it's. 225 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: Bernstein, it is Wernstein. 226 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. The problem was that they didn't really understand his significance. 227 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: So I heard them from several people like I wish 228 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: they'd spent more time talking about, you know, how incredible 229 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: it was that he did this and that and all 230 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: these various things. Instead, it was really focused on his 231 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 2: personal life, right. I like the fact that it was 232 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: focused on his personal life. But again, you know, I 233 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: didn't need to be read into how important a figure 234 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: he was. What did you think, Debra? 235 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 5: I was fascinated by his story because I didn't know 236 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 5: it either, So I really enjoyed the personal life too. 237 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 5: I thought that his relationship with his wife was really intriguing. 238 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 5: I found it fascinating, and obviously I knew who he 239 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 5: was professionally, but I just I like the angle of 240 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: the personal side. Yeah, and I thought, And also I 241 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 5: thought Bradley Cooper as an actor, I thought he did 242 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 5: such a great job. And the woman who played his wife, 243 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, she's amazing. 244 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: She's amazing everything. 245 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 5: She does, she is, but she was phenomenal in this. 246 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 4: I think that Cooper. A lot of people have asked me. 247 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: I mean friends of mine in my other life that 248 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: knew me as a as a musician were asking me. 249 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: They were texting and emailing and calling, said, what do 250 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: you think? What did you think? 251 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: I said, I had to keep reminding myself this was 252 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: not about him as a musician, was about him as 253 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: a husband, and him as a father, and him as 254 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: a you know, a someone battling demons. Because conducting was 255 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: is a very passionate thing for me. And in the scene, 256 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: the pivotal scene in the movie, I just didn't I 257 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 3: just couldn't get there with the conducting. That's one of 258 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: the most mocked things. I mean, everyone thinks, sure they 259 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: can conduct something. 260 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: So you're just waving, waving that baton up there. 261 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: You don't realize the importance of the conductor and the symphony. 262 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: And for Bradley Cooper I give the man effort, ef 263 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: your effort, because that is a hard thing to do. 264 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: But I was having some struggles watching him when I 265 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: was going, and I went back to watch the nineteen 266 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: seventy four footage. I even watched his footage from nineteen 267 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: sixty seven and Mount Scarpa when Bernstein took the Israeli 268 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: Philharmonic out to the desert and played for the troops 269 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: during the war. Wow, and they played this piece, and 270 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: I was watching these, and then I was watching Bradley 271 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: Cooper and I just I couldn't get there. 272 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah, okay, I have two things to say 273 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: about that. First of all, that's a very rarefied audience 274 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: that has the kind of experience that you have that 275 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: can examine how he was conducting and as to whether 276 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: or not it was you know, right on number two, 277 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to give the guys some credit because I'm 278 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: sure he as did you watch those videos the way 279 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: that Bernstein conducted to try to approximate it as best 280 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: he can and the other thing you did. And I 281 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: was blown away by this because the piano playing in 282 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: it on the way up is pretty good, and they 283 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: don't do that thing where you can't really see his hands, right. 284 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: He learned to play the piano for the Damn movie. 285 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: I say, I give the man credit for it. I 286 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 4: really do. 287 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: And inan and I love that he chose this, And 288 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: you know, he did it with the absolute full cooperation 289 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: of the family, the children. The children totally gave him 290 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: free access. In fact, they say, now that you know 291 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: he went over for Thanksgiving, Bradley Cooper did went over 292 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: to the kids's house for Thanksgiving, and so now he 293 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: is a part of their family. So I appreciate that 294 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: the family was on board with everything, because you know, 295 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: it could have gone a different way. But and I 296 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: was just intrigued by why Cooper chose this. That's one 297 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: thing I was trying to figure out why Cooper chose 298 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: this particular story. Spielberg and Scorsese are producers on this project. 299 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: Bradley Cooper, I think this is his first big directing 300 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: assignment of Memory Serves. 301 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 5: Which is so cool. He's directed and starring in it. 302 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 303 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: And the thing is, it's going to be the It's 304 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: going to be the big darling at the Oscars this year. 305 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: I can tell you right now, everyone's going to be 306 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: They're going to be falling all over their feet to 307 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: nominate categories. So I can see the same directing Best 308 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: Film Producers, adaptation of score. I could see the same 309 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: winning or being at least nominated for a bunch of stuff. 310 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: So but I do, I do applaud him for taking 311 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: on a very very complex and very complicated topic. 312 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it really remarkable, as you say. 313 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: And then I think to direct and to start is 314 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: super difficult, right, I mean, and. 315 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: That's kind of a thing, sure. 316 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: And then the choice to do black and white, right, 317 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: you know, it starts out in color, which was a 318 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: famous was that a sixty minutes interview They start with, 319 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: I can't remember. It was to emulate that Murrow thing 320 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: or something like that, you know, when it was color, 321 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: when the opening scene was color. Remember after by now 322 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: his wife had died and he was in his final 323 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 3: years of his life. And then it cross fades into 324 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: the black and white where it starts out where first 325 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: meets Kerry Mulligan's character, and then but I don't know, 326 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: and I don't know, and then there was some times 327 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: it got a little slow for me. I wish there 328 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: were some other things that could have done, I thought. 329 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: But Yeah, it certainly was not a perfect movie, but 330 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: it was a tourtive force, an amazing thing. 331 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it because of my love of Bernstein. But 332 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: American Masters on PBS actually did a probably one of 333 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: the best biographies on Burnstein I've ever seen. 334 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: Well, I love getting your take on it because of 335 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: your background in music, and I truly will tell you 336 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: that I've heard a hundred opinions of the movie. No 337 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: one has offered the opinion that I heard today, which is, 338 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't know the way he conducted. You know, I 339 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: just found it a bit. I went back and looked, 340 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: and I just found it. I just couldn't get there. 341 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: I just couldn't get there. Steve Gregory, everybody, he's the 342 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: award winner. Yeah, Happy New Years, sir. When we come back, 343 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 2: America's life expectancy crisis and what's affecting it. It's the 344 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: John coblt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in on KFI AM 345 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 346 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 347 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 6: six forty. 348 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson here for John co Belt. Next hour, we'll 349 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: talk to Ed Begley Junior's got a new book, which 350 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: is a book of his life and it's really interesting 351 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: and I'm just looking over the you know, the stuff 352 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: that comes in at the end of the year. They 353 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: talk about, you know, the best of this, the worst 354 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: of that. And longevity in America is a problem. We 355 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: are in a life expectancy crisis, it's pointed out, and 356 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: one of the reasons that life expectancy is dropping is 357 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: due to what rising number of opioid for doses, suicides, 358 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: other preventable deaths. This dates back to the Obama administration, 359 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: I mean Obama, Trump Biden administrations. They all say they're 360 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: aware of these concerns about life expectancy and about these 361 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: things that are scourge on society. You know, typically most 362 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: advanced nations right have longer life expectancies. It's really a 363 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: direct reflection of lifestyle access to things like clean water, 364 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: health care, and so Americans life expectancy decline is a 365 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: pressing public health problem and it's owing to a lot 366 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: of these things that underlie it, that are associated with 367 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: things that other developed countries haven't had as big a 368 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 2: problem with opioid crisis, suicide, gun violence is another one. 369 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: So this is something that we know about, it's being 370 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: talked about, it's being written about. It hasn't really taken 371 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: off politically, and so every administration essentially orphans it. For 372 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: those who try to live healthy lives and who aren't 373 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: succumbing to some of those things, you begin to look 374 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: at to other stuff like stress. They are super underscoring 375 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: chronic diseases in the prime of life brought on by stress. 376 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: I mean the stuff I'm reading from cardiologists, from enrochronologists, 377 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: obesity specialists, all these people talk about the fact that 378 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: stress manifests itself with all of us in different ways, 379 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: and it causes you to age more quickly. And look, 380 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff you just can't control, I think, 381 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, not being able to afford as 382 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: much violence, race relations, politics, whatever it might be that 383 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: concerns you. You are stressed by these things. But most 384 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 2: of the stress that we endure, I would think is 385 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: related to our own personal lives. They did a poll, 386 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: the Washington Post IPSOS poll found fifty percent of Americans 387 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: said they didn't have enough income and that was this 388 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: major source of stress, and the other half said not 389 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: having enough savings was a major source of stress. See 390 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: you begin. I mean again, person for person, your mileage 391 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: may vary, but the reality is there are a lot 392 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: of stressors, and I think more than ever. I mean, 393 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: social media has created its own issues with stress. Don't 394 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: you think you know where you sit, who's like jo 395 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: or whatever. I mean, this is all. I don't mean 396 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: to sound like you know, Grandpa, but it definitely I 397 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: thought it was stressful the way it was, but the 398 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: reality is it has only gotten more difficult. I'm actually 399 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: looking for right now. There's a good piece in the 400 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: New York Times about ways to essentially clean up a 401 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: lot of our problems in the next year. Now I 402 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: can't find it Richie anyway. But what they talk about 403 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: is essentially things like getting enough sleep, drinking more water. 404 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: We know this stuff, but this just in Sometimes it's 405 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: hard to get enough sleep. Sometimes it's hard to drink 406 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: enough water. Sometimes it's hard to cut back on drinking 407 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 2: or whatever your thing is. I mean, it is the 408 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: case that we know a lot of the things that 409 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: are bad for us. So even as we begin a 410 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: new year with resolutions to maybe reduce this or do 411 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: more of that, to do more of that category for 412 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: me is exercise, of course, if I do any will 413 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: be more, and to do less would be probably fewer cocktails, 414 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: especially as they find any amount of alcohol is bad 415 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: for you, so blah blah blah. You have to tag 416 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: your life with what works for you and also with 417 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: sort of realizable things. So as we enter the new 418 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: year and you look at sort of some of the 419 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: grim realities, you also have to deal with, you know, 420 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: dealing with others and how to handle the grim real Oh, 421 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: here it is, thank you. The top health questions of 422 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. I liked these not because there some 423 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: of them are sort of simple questions. They don't get 424 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: into the big thing like this. These are the ten 425 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 2: most popular health questions of the last year. Is it 426 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: bad to wash your hair every day? I just loved 427 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: that that was the first one. You know the answer, yes, 428 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: I think that it's a qualified yes. Deborah's right. It 429 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: depends on your hair texture. They say, how oily it is, 430 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: whether it's color treated, and more. But it may seem 431 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: that getting the scalp squeaky clean without any oils is optimal, 432 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: said doctor Murad a Lam from Northwestern University. But keep 433 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: in mind the scalp is a living part of your body, 434 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 2: not a dinner plate in your dishwasher, he says. So indeed, 435 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: Deborah is right, Yeah, washing every day is not? I 436 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: drink alcohol is another question. I'm always drawn to the 437 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: alcoholic questions. What can I do about the damage it's caused. 438 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: Here's the answer. It's become clear and clear that even 439 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: a little alcohol is bad for you. It's what I 440 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: was saying before, with links to cancer, cardiovascular issues, and 441 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: liver disease. Wow, I feel I feel worse already. Well, 442 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: there's no magic antidote to erase the harmful effects of 443 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 2: a wild night out. There are some measures you can 444 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: take to boost your health if you enjoy the occasional cocktail, 445 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: So there is help for all of you. What's your 446 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: eat or drink when I have a cold is another 447 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: top question. They say they are for chicken noodle soup. Actually, 448 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: isn't that crazy? Uh, Vegan debor Mark? 449 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I obviously I would do vegetable soup. Yes, 450 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 5: I wouldn't do chicken noodle, but or maybe vegetable with noodles. 451 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 5: As Eric is rolling his eyes, I saw that. 452 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 7: Well, this is the one time I'm actually outnumbered here. Yes, ye, yeah, 453 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 7: I'm vegan. That's right, he's. 454 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 5: Actually more hardcore than I am, because I am a 455 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 5: hypocritical vegan, meaning that I do wear leather, but I'm 456 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 5: one day I will get rid of that habit. No, yeah, 457 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 5: but from an eating stamp, but an eating standpoint. 458 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, does going vegan actually lower your grocery bill? We 459 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 2: will answer that question next people. Are you always? That's 460 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: so usually what you hear? I really I admire you 461 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: for being vegan. I just can't affoid it. It's just 462 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: so expensive. I don't know about that. Well, maybe there's 463 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: some truth to it. We'll get to that and more 464 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: on the And you know co Belt, who gives me 465 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: a hard time about gives you. He gives you a 466 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: hard time about it. You know he has vegans in 467 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: his family. You know that right. 468 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 5: I didn't know he had a vegan in his family. 469 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: I believe he does. I think one of his sons 470 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: is vegan. Wait a second, I think that's true. 471 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 5: Oh, I can't wait time. 472 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: Eric. 473 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 7: Will you check that out? Deborah, you check out? I 474 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 7: have no I'm not taking any part in this. I'm 475 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 7: on john side in this argument. 476 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 5: I can't wait to ask. 477 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 2: This is a blast to his image. You really did 478 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: just open up a whole ky worms. Marking, I'll be 479 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: starting the show with this O. 480 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 5: God, yeah, I. 481 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: Will never be invited back, all right. Mark Thompson for 482 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: John Cobelt. This is kf I Am six Party. We're 483 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 484 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 485 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 6: six forty. 486 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: We're just talking about different stuff that goes on toward 487 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 2: the end of the year where you look back health 488 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: trends and this kind of thing. And Richie found this story. 489 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: You know, Deborah Marx a vegan, but it's almost a 490 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: dirty word. 491 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 5: Oh it is, especially on this show. 492 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 2: It's like the last minority group you can make fun 493 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: of without having to worry about anybody giving you a 494 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 2: hard time about it, you know what I mean? 495 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: The k and you know what, Mark, I don't know 496 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 5: if if if you have encountered this. But people think 497 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 5: they know me just because I'm a vegan, so they 498 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 5: they kind of have me in this little box and 499 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 5: they think I must be this way right because I'm 500 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 5: a vegan, and you know what, They're wrong. 501 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 2: No, it's true. There are there right wing vegans, there 502 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: are activists, lefty vegans there. I mean, you know, it 503 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: really isn't. 504 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 5: Really not making assumptions about me, you don't know me. 505 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: I was amazed by the way on this big cruise 506 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: that I just got off of to Central and South 507 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: America twenty days, they had vegan menus at all of 508 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: the restaurants on board that. 509 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 5: Big ship, as they should. 510 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just always interesting to me to monitor 511 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: that trend because I never really know, you know, it 512 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: was It's definitely easier now to be a plant based 513 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: eater than it was, let's say, ten years ago. Even 514 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: you know, now all these alternatives. I mean, you can 515 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: go across the street from where we are at our 516 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: heart and this gets to me to the story we're 517 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: getting to, and you go to the Whole Foods there, 518 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: and there essentially is an analog for everything that you 519 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 2: can find in the world of baking. You know, there 520 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: are vegan costs, songs, vegan scones. You know, it's yep, 521 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: vegan chocolate chip cookies. That was not the case at 522 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: least in the sort of numbers that we're seeing ten 523 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: years ago. 524 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 5: Even so true, and it's so it's so nice even restaurants. 525 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 5: I am amazed there are still some restaurants, though, that 526 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 5: don't have a single vegan option, And when I go 527 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 5: they look at me like, I'm I'm I'm crazy. 528 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 4: What about crazy? 529 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 5: What about you don't eat eggs? 530 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 4: No? 531 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 5: Wait, no, no butter, no a fish, No, I'm a vegan. 532 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 5: No animal products? Yeah sorry, Yeah, we can make you 533 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 5: some steamed vegetables. 534 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is, and there's some high end. You'd think 535 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: high end restaurants would pretty well try to accommodate, but 536 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: sometimes you just get the eye roll, like every waiter 537 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: is eric. 538 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean. 539 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: Plenty of meat eaters can't imagine saying goodbye to their 540 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: beloved burgers and steaks, they say, But the price of 541 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: groceries keeps going up. Some may come over, they say, 542 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: just because the cost. Scientists say adopting a diet that 543 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: shuns all meat, dairy, and any other animal products can 544 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: decrease food costs. That's right, decrease them by sixteen percent 545 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: on an annual basis. Study authors estimate a vegan approach 546 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: to eating can save shoppers more than five hundred dollars. Quote. 547 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: We knew that a vegan diet significantly reduces your risk 548 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: of conditions like heart disease, diabetes, and obesity. Now we 549 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: have proof that opting for beans instead of beef will 550 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: also lead to significant savings on your grocery bill. So 551 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: this is a new study and it just tracks spending 552 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: in grocery stores. And it is true that you know, 553 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: it's thought of sort of this high end kind of life, 554 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: the vegan. The reality is apparently a vegan diet made 555 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: up of grains, legomes, fruits, veggies. I guess you can 556 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: save money good, absolutely, Yeah, So there is that meantime, 557 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: you have until January thirty first enroll in health coverage 558 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: through Covered California. That's the deadline to enroll in order 559 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: to get coverage through twenty twenty four. So you know, 560 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: Sunday is December thirty first. To remind you, they've seen 561 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: quite an increase in people signing up for health coverage 562 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. There is an eighteen percent increase 563 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: over the same period last year, the highest increase and 564 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: enrollment in four years. Over one point six million Californians 565 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: have renewed coverage so far, probably because of changes in affordability. 566 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: There are new programs that make the whole thing more affordable, 567 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: and there are new programs, so in addition to the 568 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: assistance that had been available, the monthly premium is down 569 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: a bit. Six hundred and fifty thousand people or more 570 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: are currently covered with no deductibles if they get into 571 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: the enhanced Silver plan. All the plans I'm getting into 572 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: now are Silver plans. And you know, just had another birthday, 573 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: and it's everybody's working you into that vinyl chapter of 574 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: your life, the silver chapter. Isn't that nice? You can 575 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: learn more about Covered California at coveredca dot com. Meantime, 576 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: you're downing the ozempic because you're trying to lose weight 577 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: here for the start of the new year. Now, isn't 578 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: it a no ozempic you take through an injection, don't you? Yeah? Yeah, 579 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 2: so is anybody around here on it? 580 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 4: I know people that are on it that don't work here, 581 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: but some of my friends. Yeah. 582 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: And are they having to like get into serious weight 583 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: management or was it more of like a little vanity thing. 584 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 4: No, it's complete vanity. I'm like, why the hell are 585 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 4: you guys doing this? 586 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I think there's a lot of that. Like 587 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: it just where you're you really you're looking to lose 588 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: ten pounds or whatever. So I mean, and whether or 589 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: not there's clearly weight loss benefits. 590 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 7: When it absolutely does work, they say it severely suppresses 591 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 7: their appetite. Yeah, and I think it does also. 592 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: Suppress other addictive urges, is what I was reading. But 593 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: you know, if appetites the thing, it'll work. It's I 594 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: must say this. And it is getting like all of 595 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: these great reports and reviews from those using it, But 596 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: it's a little early in the game to start, you know. 597 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: I feel like this is one of those stories that 598 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: you know, five years and they're going to go, well, 599 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: new news for ozemphic users. It turns out, you know, 600 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: it turns you into a reptile over The nationwide number 601 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: of overdoses this year is more than double those of 602 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: last year. And that's the real problem. So let's assume 603 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: that it is safe. The problem is people are getting 604 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: two into it. California counted for about three hundred and 605 00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: fifty of the reports of overdoses associated with the Poison 606 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: Center report and the fifty five poison centers in the 607 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: United States. There were only three hundred and sixty four 608 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: of these overdoses in twenty twenty, so the popularity of 609 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: ozembic has created an overdose problem in America with this stuff. 610 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: So if you decide to get on it, go for it. 611 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: Standard dosage ranges involve weekly injections depending on the prescription. 612 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: But do be careful because there is a problem with 613 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: people who are overdosing. So like anything that is possibly toxic, 614 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you know that is to say, if you 615 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: increase it to a certain level, there is toxicity. Be 616 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: careful and congratulations on looking so hot. When we come back. 617 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: Ed Begley Junior. His new book is terrific and it 618 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: involves all these different people. He grew up. He grew 619 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: up in Hollywood. He was the son of an Academy 620 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: Award winning actor and so the stories from that world 621 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: are something. And he was also slaying some demons. Anyway, 622 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: we'll get into Ed's story as we continue. 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