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Speaker 2: app same as the radio show. Well, it's a big,

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Speaker 2: big bus this morning if federal agents they arrested a

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Speaker 2: number of gang members and associates of the Eighteenth Street Gang.

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Speaker 2: This is a gang that had taken over that beautiful park,

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Speaker 2: Not just with homeless people and mental patients and drug addicts,

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Speaker 2: but there's a pretty large scale criminal operation involving Mexican gangs.

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Speaker 2: And among the people arrested was a woman named Keikokan Zales,

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Speaker 2: and she was charged with ordering a murder and among

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Speaker 2: It's a very well that they're a lot of they

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Speaker 2: commit a lot of criminal activity they're in a lot

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Speaker 3: And Bill A.

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Speaker 2: Sale is going to explain this for us. He's the

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Speaker 3: Bill, how are you hey.

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Speaker 4: Good John, How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing really well. Well.

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Speaker 2: Explain the this gang, all their activities. It's a tremendous

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Speaker 2: amount of crime they were involved in. And how you

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Speaker 2: guys busted the whole operation, because I know it isn't easy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, this was a multi year investigation. This involves

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Speaker 4: what's called the Eighteenth Street Gang, which actually originated right

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Speaker 4: here in Los Angeles. They've got over one hundred thousand

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Speaker 4: South America. They control, you know, each gang sort of

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Speaker 4: claims control a particular area or neighborhoods of interest. This

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Speaker 4: sure you're very familiar with MacArthur Park and all the

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Speaker 4: they collect taxes for safety, they dispense the drugs there,

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Speaker 4: and you know, people drive by and they're like, we

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Speaker 4: should just arrest all these people. Well, most of the

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Speaker 4: people you see there are transients, right, they're transients. They're

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Speaker 4: these areas, and that's what this operation was around was about.

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Speaker 4: Today we indicted fourteen people that are leaders of this

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Speaker 4: people that were supplying the rugs to the gang. You

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Speaker 4: mentioned the street leader. Her name is Kiko Gonzalez and

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Speaker 4: she goes by Moms. She's married to a Mexican mafia

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Speaker 4: member who is in state prison. And the way that

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Speaker 4: he owns the eighteenth Street gang and his wife out

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Speaker 4: worked very closely with this on LAPD. I have to

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Speaker 2: Or Hey, Gonzalez who runs the gang out of prison.

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Speaker 2: He's seventy years old and he's been in prison for

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Mexican mafia, that's how they operate. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, they communicate in a lot of ways. There's

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Speaker 4: conjugal visits. They have dirty lawyers, and those conversations are

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of ways to communicate in and out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so much for when someone becomes elderly that they

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Speaker 4: I'm okay with the early parole John as long as

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Speaker 4: they're paroled next door to one of the politicians in Sacramento.

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Speaker 4: That would be my amendment to that bill.

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Speaker 2: So, is there going to be a noticeable, visible change

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the deal, I mean, I asked laped and

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Speaker 4: transnational particularly transnational organized criminals. We're going after them, and

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine how much surveillance and informants and intelligence

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Speaker 3: This isn't easy to do.

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Speaker 4: It's not There's a lot of there's a lot of work,

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Speaker 4: But let's just say that the park is was not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remembered. You'll probably remember that when Ice

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Speaker 3: Ice disrupting the soccer games.

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Speaker 4: If a mom took her child to the park in

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Speaker 4: the current condition, the mother should be charged for child

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Speaker 4: you know, I really feel about as small business owners.

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Speaker 4: There's a deli there called Langers. Oh yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: Bill, thanks very much for coming on. Great work you

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Speaker 4: Thanks John, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Saley, he's the first Assistant to US Attorney for the

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Speaker 2: And they were running this big gang operation and all

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Speaker 2: You have to take action. You have to spend a

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to them whether they bust up a

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Speaker 3: Is. There's a story on how we actually got the Iatola.

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Speaker 2: Remember we bombed his big meeting last Saturday along him,

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Speaker 2: Heard that Christinom, the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security,

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Speaker 3: Don, how are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm good, John, How are you? Man?

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Speaker 3: I am good? So tell us what you think happened

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Speaker 1: I think Christino had a series of leadership failures starting

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Speaker 6: And you know, and there's a bunch of personal.

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Speaker 1: Including the two undred twenty two million dollar ad campaign

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Speaker 1: Yeah, John, I never expected to see the Department, the

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Speaker 6: The best support they can. And in particular right now,

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Speaker 2: How should she have handled the Minneapolis situation differently? You

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Speaker 1: Well, federal agencies don't just show up and take over.

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Speaker 6: Dan.

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Speaker 2: You talked about personal scandals, the rumors, and I don't

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Speaker 1: Well, I think they kept asking her to just say no,

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Speaker 1: And clearly her focus was not on and I think

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Speaker 6: That the secretary has to think about it.

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Speaker 1: You've got FEMA dealing with emergencies, You've got CSA processing

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Speaker 2: How should she have handled the hearings better? Because it's

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Speaker 3: No listen.

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Speaker 1: Congressional hearings A lot of this theater, whether it's the

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Speaker 1: And you have to be ready for some of the

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: I think Rubio had a hearing, had a hearing not

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Speaker 6: But of course you can only do that if.

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Speaker 1: You have credibility in gravatas, and I think Naam lost

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Speaker 6: That over the last couple of months, and.

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Speaker 1: That's where she walked into basically a firing scout and

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Speaker 2: All right, it's good talking with you, Don, Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much. Thanks for having me John John Mahalak, she

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Speaker 2: We are going to talk more about this because we

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Speaker 2: this would scare me out of the country. It might

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Speaker 2: make me want to stay. We'll also play you. We'll

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 2: And we were just talking with Don Mahollock from ABC

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Speaker 2: News about why Christy Nome got fired today by Trump.

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Speaker 3: And Bill Mallusian over at Fox News.

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Speaker 2: He's posted that it was the interview with Louisiana Senator

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Speaker 2: John Kennedy that did her in. Kennedy even had told

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Speaker 2: the Trump White House that he was going to be

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Speaker 2: questioning her pretty harshly. She spent two hundred million dollars,

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Speaker 2: largely on TV commercials that starred her looking like a

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Speaker 2: cowgirl and a horse. For example, let's play some of

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Speaker 2: the exchange between Christy Nome and Senator John Kennedy and

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Speaker 2: he's a Republican again, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: How do you square that concern for waste which I

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Speaker 7: share with the fact that you have spent two hundred

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Speaker 7: and twenty million dollars running television advertisements that feature you prominently?

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Speaker 4: Sir?

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Speaker 8: The President asked me with getting the message out to

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Speaker 8: the country and to other countries where we were seeing

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Speaker 8: the invasion come from, with putting commercials out that told

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Speaker 8: them that if they were in this country illegally, that

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Speaker 8: they needed to leave or we would detain them and

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Speaker 8: remove them and they not get the chance to come

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Speaker 8: back to America the right way. That has been extremely effective.

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Speaker 7: Ask you to run these advertisements. Is that right?

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Speaker 8: We had that conversation, Yes, before I was put in

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Speaker 8: this position and sworn in and confirmed and since then

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Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 7: Okay, did you bid at those service contracts?

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Speaker 8: Yes, they did. They went out to a competitive bid,

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Speaker 8: and career officials at the department chose who would do

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Speaker 8: those advertising commercials.

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Speaker 7: And the people that you ended up picking were people

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Speaker 7: who had formerly done your political work back in shout

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Speaker 7: to Cote. Is that right?

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Speaker 8: No, that's not correct, sir. No, it's not, sir. The

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Speaker 8: individuals who I believe, the careers who they chose were

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Speaker 8: two different media firms. There's been conversation about their subcontractors,

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Speaker 8: but we have no legal authority to look into subcontractors

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Speaker 8: on work like that.

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Speaker 7: Okay. And you're saying that you're testifying that President Trump

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Speaker 7: approved this ahead of time, So I'm understanding.

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Speaker 8: We had conversations about making sure that we were telling people.

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Speaker 7: No, man, I'm asking you a short interrupt, but the

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Speaker 7: President approved ahead of time you spending two hundred and

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Speaker 7: twenty million dollars running TV eds across the country in

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Speaker 7: which you are featured prominently.

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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, we went through the legal processes. Did it correct?

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Speaker 2: Yes, he did? Yes, Okay, all right, stopped there. That

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Speaker 2: was the moment Trump saw that and he went ballistic.

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Speaker 2: He says, no way did he approve to spend two

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty million dollars on a set of commercials

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Speaker 2: starring Christy. No, and that was the moment where he

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Speaker 2: went crazy. According to reports here, uh so Trump immediately

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Speaker 2: wanted to fire her. Uh and ed because Kennedy told

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Speaker 2: reporters whether that Trump called him after the hearing and

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Speaker 2: that Trump was quote mad as a murder hornet about

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Speaker 2: Nome's testimony, saying that he Trump never approved the contract,

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Speaker 2: nor was he even aware of it. And according to Kennedy,

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Speaker 2: her version of the truth and the president's version of

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Speaker 2: the truth are decidedly different. Let me play a clip

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Speaker 2: of of course this is audio here, but you have

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Speaker 2: to imagine her in cowgirl gear, sitting on top of

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Speaker 2: a horse in front of Mount Rushmore in South Dakota.

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Speaker 3: Way cut fire.

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Speaker 9: Why do I love these wide open spaces?

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Speaker 4: They remind me.

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Speaker 8: Of why our forefathers came here, not just for its beauty,

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Speaker 8: but for the freedom only America provides. I'm Christino from

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Speaker 8: the cowboys who tamed the West.

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Speaker 3: To stop stop staked.

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Speaker 2: How's that going to scare anybody out of the country.

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Speaker 2: She was talking about ads that they ran in other

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Speaker 2: countries telling people not to come.

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Speaker 3: Well, this was running in this country.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the radio ads they bought a lot on KFI,

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Speaker 2: and I remember thinking at the time, it's like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how many legal aliens are listening to KFI.

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Speaker 2: I can think of a few other stations in town

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Speaker 2: where that's probably a majority of the audience.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think here play some more pam.

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Speaker 9: The West, to the titans who built our cities, to

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Speaker 9: the dreamers who chase the impossible. America has always rewarded

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Speaker 9: vision and grid. Our greatness calls people to us for

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Speaker 9: a chance to prosper.

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Speaker 2: All right, that has to be the most ineffective commercial

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Speaker 2: to get legal aliens to leave the country that they

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Speaker 2: possibly could have created when we come back. Remember a

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Speaker 2: couple of months ago, we told you the story how

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Speaker 2: in Chevy and Hills, a scamster got eleven million dollars

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Speaker 2: of tax money to buy a assisted an assisted living

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Speaker 2: center in Chevy at Hills to turn it into a

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Speaker 2: homeless center. He paid eleven million for it with our

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Speaker 2: tax money. It was a complete scam. He then sold

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Speaker 2: it to another scam company for twenty seven million. Well,

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Speaker 2: we're going to unravel what happened in that case next

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Speaker 2: and we're going to talk because there is a lawsuit

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Speaker 2: being filed by some of the residents in Chevy At Hills.

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Speaker 2: They have an attorney representing them. We'll tell you about

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Speaker 2: it when we return, and we've got two guests to

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Speaker 2: talk about it, Deborah Mark live in the CAFI twenty

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