1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:23,828 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio, Good Money Mom. 3 00:00:24,628 --> 00:00:26,508 Speaker 2: All right, we've been having some fun here on Good 4 00:00:26,508 --> 00:00:28,708 Speaker 2: Morning Football, and I think when it's all said and done, 5 00:00:28,708 --> 00:00:31,428 Speaker 2: this will be as memorable a free agency area, Jason, 6 00:00:31,468 --> 00:00:32,748 Speaker 2: as we have ever seen. 7 00:00:32,908 --> 00:00:33,708 Speaker 3: There's no doubt about. 8 00:00:33,708 --> 00:00:36,148 Speaker 4: It has been blockbuster trades of trades that haven't gone 9 00:00:36,228 --> 00:00:39,868 Speaker 4: through things we have never seen, new faces, new teams. 10 00:00:39,988 --> 00:00:41,268 Speaker 3: It has been very exciting. 11 00:00:41,348 --> 00:00:43,348 Speaker 5: Yeah, people get in the bag too. 12 00:00:43,388 --> 00:00:45,668 Speaker 2: That also helps, especially if you're the one that is 13 00:00:45,668 --> 00:00:47,508 Speaker 2: going to get paid. By the way, Mike Herrofola will 14 00:00:47,508 --> 00:00:49,108 Speaker 2: be joining us in just a bit, but we welcome 15 00:00:49,148 --> 00:00:52,628 Speaker 2: in one of our other NFL network insiders, Ian Rappaport 16 00:00:52,748 --> 00:00:55,108 Speaker 2: is with us right now. And Ian, it has been 17 00:00:55,148 --> 00:00:57,908 Speaker 2: an insane week for all of you guys. Just continue 18 00:00:57,948 --> 00:00:59,908 Speaker 2: to break story after story and I know you're shaking 19 00:00:59,908 --> 00:01:01,748 Speaker 2: your head. You actually haven't left that seat in the 20 00:01:01,828 --> 00:01:04,668 Speaker 2: last forty eight hours. I would imagine maybe even longer 21 00:01:04,708 --> 00:01:06,948 Speaker 2: than that. We've had some time to process everything that's 22 00:01:06,988 --> 00:01:09,748 Speaker 2: been happening around. Max Crosby with the Ravens and the 23 00:01:09,868 --> 00:01:13,588 Speaker 2: Raiders level level said everything for me and what we're 24 00:01:13,668 --> 00:01:14,988 Speaker 2: learning over the last couple of days. 25 00:01:15,108 --> 00:01:16,988 Speaker 6: It's funny day, he said, forty eight hours. It has 26 00:01:17,028 --> 00:01:21,148 Speaker 6: been a wild seventy two hours week, two weeks. I 27 00:01:21,188 --> 00:01:24,748 Speaker 6: feel like the last four weeks have been just fully crazy. Anyway, 28 00:01:25,308 --> 00:01:26,908 Speaker 6: let's get to one of the big stories that we 29 00:01:26,948 --> 00:01:29,708 Speaker 6: have been tracking for the last week. Max Crosby took 30 00:01:29,708 --> 00:01:32,908 Speaker 6: to social media last night or early earlier this morning 31 00:01:32,948 --> 00:01:37,668 Speaker 6: and essentially re established his commitment to the Las Vegas Raiders, 32 00:01:37,788 --> 00:01:38,788 Speaker 6: saying I'm a Raider. 33 00:01:39,308 --> 00:01:41,028 Speaker 7: Let's run it basically what he said. 34 00:01:41,028 --> 00:01:43,068 Speaker 3: It's in a little bit of a dirtier. 35 00:01:42,748 --> 00:01:45,388 Speaker 6: Language, but Max draws me now moving forward with the 36 00:01:45,388 --> 00:01:47,308 Speaker 6: team that he now rejoins that has gotten a lot 37 00:01:47,348 --> 00:01:48,668 Speaker 6: better since he left. 38 00:01:48,788 --> 00:01:51,948 Speaker 7: Think about what happened over the last three or four days. 39 00:01:52,148 --> 00:01:54,548 Speaker 6: The Raiders believe they were trading Max Crosby to the 40 00:01:54,628 --> 00:01:57,748 Speaker 6: Ravens before a physical, ended up negating that deal because 41 00:01:57,748 --> 00:01:59,708 Speaker 6: of their concerns with his knee. As he recovers from 42 00:01:59,748 --> 00:02:02,388 Speaker 6: a fully tore meniscus, he is about two months out. 43 00:02:02,388 --> 00:02:04,828 Speaker 6: It's always going to be a projection. They ought they'd 44 00:02:04,828 --> 00:02:07,148 Speaker 6: be more comfortable with the knee than they were. They 45 00:02:07,188 --> 00:02:10,828 Speaker 6: had some long term concerns, so the trade is now off. Meanwhile, 46 00:02:10,908 --> 00:02:13,028 Speaker 6: during that time when the Raiders thought they were trading 47 00:02:13,068 --> 00:02:16,428 Speaker 6: Max Crosby, they spent They had a huge pieces to 48 00:02:16,468 --> 00:02:19,748 Speaker 6: their defense, added Tyler Lindebum to their offense, paid in 49 00:02:19,788 --> 00:02:22,028 Speaker 6: about twenty seven million dollars per year, the highest paid 50 00:02:22,068 --> 00:02:24,068 Speaker 6: center in NFL history. 51 00:02:24,428 --> 00:02:25,948 Speaker 7: They really bolstered. 52 00:02:25,468 --> 00:02:27,908 Speaker 6: Their roster and got to be a pretty good team. 53 00:02:28,348 --> 00:02:31,988 Speaker 6: And now what they did was basically take their two 54 00:02:32,108 --> 00:02:34,068 Speaker 6: first round picks that they thought they were getting from 55 00:02:34,108 --> 00:02:37,108 Speaker 6: the Ravens, send it back and get Max Crosby. So 56 00:02:37,148 --> 00:02:39,908 Speaker 6: it's kind of like they traded for Max Crosby and 57 00:02:39,988 --> 00:02:42,708 Speaker 6: add him to a much better team. Makes sense why 58 00:02:42,748 --> 00:02:45,828 Speaker 6: he is now eyes forward to the Raiders. Meanwhile, one 59 00:02:45,828 --> 00:02:47,868 Speaker 6: of the other storylines that we have been focusing on 60 00:02:47,908 --> 00:02:51,788 Speaker 6: the last several days Kyler Murray, the former starting quarterback 61 00:02:51,828 --> 00:02:54,108 Speaker 6: for the Arizona Cardinals. He is going to be on 62 00:02:54,148 --> 00:02:57,508 Speaker 6: a visit today to the Minnesota Vikings. That is the 63 00:02:57,628 --> 00:03:00,428 Speaker 6: last really big free agent out that will all due 64 00:03:00,428 --> 00:03:02,068 Speaker 6: respect to all the other free agents who have not 65 00:03:02,148 --> 00:03:06,228 Speaker 6: yet signed. Kyler Murray officially released by the Arizona Cardinals yesterday. 66 00:03:06,228 --> 00:03:08,228 Speaker 6: We've known it was coming, but because it was official 67 00:03:08,268 --> 00:03:11,348 Speaker 6: only yesterday, wasn't allowed to take any visits, wasn't allowed 68 00:03:11,388 --> 00:03:13,388 Speaker 6: to speak to anyone. He has been going through the 69 00:03:13,428 --> 00:03:16,468 Speaker 6: process the last let's say, twelve hours or so, talking 70 00:03:16,468 --> 00:03:19,428 Speaker 6: to teams, talking to decision makers, really setting the foundation 71 00:03:19,508 --> 00:03:22,068 Speaker 6: for twenty twenty seven free agency because he's going to 72 00:03:22,068 --> 00:03:24,988 Speaker 6: sign a one year minimum deal, likely with the Vikings. 73 00:03:24,988 --> 00:03:27,868 Speaker 6: We'll see if that comes together today. But that is 74 00:03:27,908 --> 00:03:31,428 Speaker 6: the last big name free agent available, which means we 75 00:03:31,468 --> 00:03:34,308 Speaker 6: can all sleep until something else really crazy. 76 00:03:34,308 --> 00:03:38,868 Speaker 2: And when that crazy moment happens, Ian, we have you. 77 00:03:38,868 --> 00:03:41,788 Speaker 2: You will give us plenty of the details around whatever 78 00:03:41,828 --> 00:03:44,708 Speaker 2: story is about to go and break more from you 79 00:03:44,748 --> 00:03:46,148 Speaker 2: coming up in just a bit here. But it is 80 00:03:46,148 --> 00:03:48,828 Speaker 2: time for throw down Thursday. Let's get right into it. 81 00:03:48,828 --> 00:03:51,108 Speaker 2: As Ian was talking about sort of a wild situation 82 00:03:51,388 --> 00:03:54,988 Speaker 2: for the Baltimore Ravens. Their general manager Eric Tacsta actually 83 00:03:54,988 --> 00:03:57,988 Speaker 2: spoke about the Max Crosby trade that broke down between 84 00:03:58,028 --> 00:04:00,948 Speaker 2: the two teams. He said, quote, nobody is more upset 85 00:04:00,988 --> 00:04:02,988 Speaker 2: than me. Later in the press conference, he was actually 86 00:04:03,028 --> 00:04:04,788 Speaker 2: asked if he had any regrets. 87 00:04:04,948 --> 00:04:05,908 Speaker 5: Here's what he had to say. 88 00:04:07,748 --> 00:04:09,508 Speaker 8: I think I'm hard on myself, and you think you 89 00:04:09,668 --> 00:04:13,268 Speaker 8: question everything you do. You know, in this business you're 90 00:04:13,308 --> 00:04:15,388 Speaker 8: never perfect, right with the draft and with free agency. 91 00:04:15,388 --> 00:04:17,508 Speaker 8: I think in this particular instance, I'm really proud of 92 00:04:18,028 --> 00:04:21,388 Speaker 8: the team and the doctors and you know, the guys 93 00:04:21,388 --> 00:04:24,148 Speaker 8: that work with me and I just this is a 94 00:04:24,188 --> 00:04:26,028 Speaker 8: tough thing that we have to deal with in this business. 95 00:04:28,188 --> 00:04:32,668 Speaker 8: I don't really know what we could do differently than 96 00:04:32,668 --> 00:04:35,228 Speaker 8: what we did, So again, it's a really, really, really 97 00:04:35,268 --> 00:04:40,588 Speaker 8: tough call. You know, there were moments yesterday when honestly 98 00:04:40,628 --> 00:04:43,468 Speaker 8: I was probably speechless just sitting again in my chair 99 00:04:43,508 --> 00:04:45,628 Speaker 8: in my office and just thinking about what the next 100 00:04:45,668 --> 00:04:48,068 Speaker 8: step would be and trying to get as much information 101 00:04:48,148 --> 00:04:50,308 Speaker 8: as possible. And it wasn't you know, I should say 102 00:04:50,348 --> 00:04:54,548 Speaker 8: it wasn't. Just you know, in a situation like this, 103 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:56,308 Speaker 8: you try to get as much information as you can 104 00:04:56,348 --> 00:04:59,668 Speaker 8: from as many different sources as you can, and it 105 00:04:59,748 --> 00:05:02,868 Speaker 8: just didn't work out. So yeah, tough, very very challenging. 106 00:05:03,028 --> 00:05:05,308 Speaker 8: We've dealt with these kinds of things pass, but probably 107 00:05:05,348 --> 00:05:11,788 Speaker 8: never that's such a large, a large figure, so challenging. 108 00:05:12,028 --> 00:05:14,108 Speaker 3: To renegotiate at all the terms of it. 109 00:05:15,068 --> 00:05:16,828 Speaker 8: You know, I think at some point you get to 110 00:05:16,868 --> 00:05:22,628 Speaker 8: the point where you know, when you look at the situation. 111 00:05:22,788 --> 00:05:23,188 Speaker 5: You just. 112 00:05:24,908 --> 00:05:26,708 Speaker 8: You have to make the right decision. You know, it's 113 00:05:26,748 --> 00:05:29,228 Speaker 8: not always about you know, the value, it's just what 114 00:05:29,388 --> 00:05:31,468 Speaker 8: is the right decision for the club at the time. 115 00:05:32,068 --> 00:05:34,988 Speaker 8: And that's a hard thing to do. But as I said, 116 00:05:34,988 --> 00:05:36,748 Speaker 8: when you're a steward of your organization and you put 117 00:05:36,748 --> 00:05:37,748 Speaker 8: in that position, you've got. 118 00:05:37,668 --> 00:05:38,308 Speaker 9: To make a tough call. 119 00:05:40,028 --> 00:05:42,268 Speaker 2: You know, a little bit of a tone change arounds 120 00:05:42,308 --> 00:05:44,948 Speaker 2: this deal after hearing him speak yesterday, but throw down 121 00:05:45,028 --> 00:05:48,148 Speaker 2: number one. Let's get right to a trade and Max Trusty, 122 00:05:48,228 --> 00:05:50,108 Speaker 2: both players got to be playing with a little bit 123 00:05:50,108 --> 00:05:52,748 Speaker 2: of a chip on their shoulder for very different reasons. 124 00:05:52,788 --> 00:05:56,388 Speaker 2: Who's going to have more sacks this year? Seth, what 125 00:05:56,508 --> 00:05:56,908 Speaker 2: do you got? 126 00:05:57,028 --> 00:05:59,988 Speaker 10: Oh, that's really tricky. That's a tough one. I'm going 127 00:06:00,028 --> 00:06:02,908 Speaker 10: to say. Both these guys coming off injuries, you know, 128 00:06:02,948 --> 00:06:07,788 Speaker 10: Hendrickson with the core and Crosby with the knee. You know, 129 00:06:07,828 --> 00:06:10,708 Speaker 10: And and part of me wants to say Hendrickson, but 130 00:06:10,788 --> 00:06:14,708 Speaker 10: I just cannot bet against Max Crosby because the guy 131 00:06:14,948 --> 00:06:17,708 Speaker 10: just he has a motor that does not quit. 132 00:06:17,788 --> 00:06:19,348 Speaker 7: He is a special kind of talent. 133 00:06:19,588 --> 00:06:22,188 Speaker 10: There are not too many guys that play every single 134 00:06:22,268 --> 00:06:26,388 Speaker 10: play and consistently reek havoc in the backfield, and we 135 00:06:26,508 --> 00:06:28,548 Speaker 10: mentioned it off the top a little bit. This Raiders 136 00:06:28,828 --> 00:06:31,908 Speaker 10: team has gotten a lot better. They have gotten a 137 00:06:31,908 --> 00:06:35,268 Speaker 10: lot better. Everything is redone there. They're gonna have a 138 00:06:35,308 --> 00:06:38,348 Speaker 10: rookie starting quarterback, likely a rookie head coach. But they're 139 00:06:38,348 --> 00:06:40,788 Speaker 10: gonna have Ashton gent in his second year. They're gonna 140 00:06:40,828 --> 00:06:43,348 Speaker 10: have Rock Bauer. They're gonna have some weapons there. I 141 00:06:43,388 --> 00:06:46,068 Speaker 10: think on offensive score some points to make these teams 142 00:06:46,108 --> 00:06:47,668 Speaker 10: have to throw the ball against them a little more 143 00:06:47,708 --> 00:06:50,148 Speaker 10: than they did last season. I'm gonna go with Max Crosby. 144 00:06:50,188 --> 00:06:52,508 Speaker 10: I think he's gonna have more of an impact. We 145 00:06:52,628 --> 00:06:55,748 Speaker 10: have a higher sack total, I think, So I'm gonna 146 00:06:55,748 --> 00:06:57,788 Speaker 10: go with impact on this and I think Max Crosby 147 00:06:57,948 --> 00:06:59,668 Speaker 10: is going to have it because he's gonna be I mean, 148 00:06:59,708 --> 00:07:02,628 Speaker 10: he got rejected. He got rejected in Baltimore for whatever 149 00:07:02,708 --> 00:07:03,988 Speaker 10: reason you want to say. 150 00:07:04,148 --> 00:07:05,468 Speaker 7: He's coming back to LA. 151 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:07,708 Speaker 10: Or to Vegas now, so you u see them being 152 00:07:07,708 --> 00:07:09,228 Speaker 10: the Raiders in Los Angeles. 153 00:07:08,908 --> 00:07:10,428 Speaker 7: But coming back to Vegas. 154 00:07:10,548 --> 00:07:12,188 Speaker 10: I think he's gonna have a huge impact on the 155 00:07:12,188 --> 00:07:13,028 Speaker 10: defense this season. 156 00:07:13,468 --> 00:07:16,708 Speaker 4: Look, I think if you really really know ball, then 157 00:07:16,988 --> 00:07:18,868 Speaker 4: everybody's gonna have the same answer here. 158 00:07:19,268 --> 00:07:21,468 Speaker 3: Max Crosby the Condor. 159 00:07:21,588 --> 00:07:24,748 Speaker 4: As our colleague Brian Baldinger likes to call him, This 160 00:07:24,828 --> 00:07:27,948 Speaker 4: guy's unbelievable. Watching this guy pass rush is like a 161 00:07:27,988 --> 00:07:30,468 Speaker 4: form of art. He's got every move in the book. 162 00:07:30,628 --> 00:07:32,868 Speaker 4: He's got the ghost rush, he's got the spin move, 163 00:07:32,908 --> 00:07:36,428 Speaker 4: he's got the fake spin, he's got power to speed. 164 00:07:36,748 --> 00:07:39,108 Speaker 4: He can do it all man, and he's gonna be 165 00:07:39,148 --> 00:07:42,228 Speaker 4: playing with a bigger chip than Trey Hendrickson. Obviously, the 166 00:07:42,268 --> 00:07:45,628 Speaker 4: trade got denied. People are now questioning his health and 167 00:07:45,788 --> 00:07:47,708 Speaker 4: is his knee gonna hold up this? That and the 168 00:07:47,748 --> 00:07:50,508 Speaker 4: third Look, the Trey Hendrickson deal I think is a 169 00:07:50,548 --> 00:07:54,108 Speaker 4: couple of years too late. I think Max Crosby has 170 00:07:54,228 --> 00:07:57,188 Speaker 4: a lot more mild left on his tires. 171 00:07:56,948 --> 00:07:58,228 Speaker 3: Than Trey Hendrickson does. 172 00:07:59,428 --> 00:08:01,748 Speaker 4: I think Max Crobby's gonna have the twelve to thirteen 173 00:08:01,868 --> 00:08:05,148 Speaker 4: plus SAX season this year. He's going to be playing 174 00:08:05,268 --> 00:08:08,388 Speaker 4: with such a chip on his shoulder. I don't think 175 00:08:08,428 --> 00:08:11,908 Speaker 4: there's anybody who plays harder in the league than Max Crosby. 176 00:08:11,988 --> 00:08:15,668 Speaker 4: Maybe Fred Warner, maybe Aiden Hutchinson. There's there's a very 177 00:08:15,828 --> 00:08:18,388 Speaker 4: very small handful of players who play with that type 178 00:08:18,388 --> 00:08:19,908 Speaker 4: of motor man, it's gonna be Max Crosby, and I 179 00:08:19,908 --> 00:08:20,788 Speaker 4: don't think it's going to be close. 180 00:08:20,908 --> 00:08:22,348 Speaker 5: Yeah, the guy. I think both you guys are right 181 00:08:22,388 --> 00:08:22,868 Speaker 5: on that motor. 182 00:08:22,868 --> 00:08:24,708 Speaker 2: There's no question when you watch him on the football 183 00:08:24,708 --> 00:08:27,108 Speaker 2: field that we tend to watch the offensive players. Crosby's 184 00:08:27,148 --> 00:08:29,428 Speaker 2: so good, you watch the defensive players. But just a 185 00:08:29,508 --> 00:08:32,108 Speaker 2: quick reminder, I know only seven games last year for Hendrickson, 186 00:08:32,308 --> 00:08:35,068 Speaker 2: four sacks, the previous two years seventeen and a half 187 00:08:35,068 --> 00:08:38,108 Speaker 2: in each of those seasons. Maybe there's an issue as 188 00:08:38,148 --> 00:08:40,028 Speaker 2: in terms of the recovery, but he's coming off of 189 00:08:40,068 --> 00:08:42,348 Speaker 2: the corps, got a little more time to heal up. 190 00:08:42,628 --> 00:08:45,028 Speaker 2: Hendrickson's got an opportunity to put up some big numbers. 191 00:08:45,028 --> 00:08:46,628 Speaker 2: But coming up next here, all right, Seth, you had 192 00:08:46,668 --> 00:08:49,028 Speaker 2: a little bit of a slight of hand maybe the 193 00:08:49,228 --> 00:08:51,748 Speaker 2: best way to describe it, mixing it up, confusing people 194 00:08:51,788 --> 00:08:54,308 Speaker 2: on raw Monday night, much like the Chiefs tried to 195 00:08:54,348 --> 00:08:56,868 Speaker 2: pull off in a game back in twenty twenty three. 196 00:08:56,948 --> 00:08:59,548 Speaker 2: Let's take a look at both of those moments, starting 197 00:08:59,548 --> 00:09:01,828 Speaker 2: with the one that you had WWE style. 198 00:09:05,028 --> 00:09:08,108 Speaker 1: There's one of them, Seth, Well, good luck figure it out, Corey. 199 00:09:08,188 --> 00:09:11,068 Speaker 3: This is like a an Uber shell game. 200 00:09:17,148 --> 00:09:18,988 Speaker 2: Pretty awesome to go and see a moment like that. 201 00:09:19,068 --> 00:09:21,468 Speaker 2: All right, so Seth having some fun. Here's the Chiefs 202 00:09:21,828 --> 00:09:24,788 Speaker 2: snow globe play against the Raiders back in twenty three. 203 00:09:25,668 --> 00:09:26,148 Speaker 3: Look at this. 204 00:09:30,788 --> 00:09:34,828 Speaker 5: I've never seen that before in my life. It's a 205 00:09:34,828 --> 00:09:37,348 Speaker 5: little carousel coming out of that short time out. 206 00:09:37,548 --> 00:09:41,908 Speaker 9: Chiefs snapped it quick, McKinnon took the wildcat and Maholmes 207 00:09:41,908 --> 00:09:45,308 Speaker 9: got it across and Kadarius. 208 00:09:44,748 --> 00:09:47,908 Speaker 3: Tony showed off the Moons into the ends off touchdown 209 00:09:48,308 --> 00:09:51,188 Speaker 3: and there is a flag out. We'll check the marker, 210 00:09:51,988 --> 00:09:53,908 Speaker 3: but some razzle dazzle and. 211 00:09:53,988 --> 00:10:01,108 Speaker 5: They call Tony on the hold. Both of those moments 212 00:10:01,268 --> 00:10:03,588 Speaker 5: iconic for different reasons. You tell me who did it better. 213 00:10:04,428 --> 00:10:07,268 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to the Kansas City Chiefs. Oh, I'm 214 00:10:07,308 --> 00:10:10,628 Speaker 3: gonna tell Howard. I'm gonna tell you why. Guys, when 215 00:10:10,628 --> 00:10:11,748 Speaker 3: you're a defense. 216 00:10:11,348 --> 00:10:14,188 Speaker 4: In the NFL and an offense is able to pull 217 00:10:14,188 --> 00:10:16,508 Speaker 4: off a trick play on you like that, there's a 218 00:10:16,588 --> 00:10:18,468 Speaker 4: level of there's a level of disrespect. 219 00:10:18,508 --> 00:10:21,828 Speaker 3: There's a level of like, I can't believe they got 220 00:10:21,908 --> 00:10:22,708 Speaker 3: us like that. Man. 221 00:10:23,708 --> 00:10:25,788 Speaker 4: They's just a type of a taste that's in your 222 00:10:25,788 --> 00:10:27,268 Speaker 4: mouth that you kind of just hate man. 223 00:10:27,308 --> 00:10:28,188 Speaker 3: It's like they don't respect. 224 00:10:28,308 --> 00:10:31,108 Speaker 4: It's like they just think that it's some elementary school 225 00:10:31,188 --> 00:10:31,868 Speaker 4: recess types. 226 00:10:31,908 --> 00:10:34,068 Speaker 5: That's backyard at that level at the. 227 00:10:34,108 --> 00:10:36,028 Speaker 4: NFL to be able to pull that stuff off Man, 228 00:10:36,068 --> 00:10:38,508 Speaker 4: and there's there's not a worst tastory mouth. They pull 229 00:10:38,548 --> 00:10:40,828 Speaker 4: this off the perfection man in Kansas City Chiefs and 230 00:10:40,868 --> 00:10:43,828 Speaker 4: they do this thing near once again. Man Andy Reid 231 00:10:43,948 --> 00:10:46,188 Speaker 4: just keeps on scheming it up. One of the best 232 00:10:46,228 --> 00:10:49,028 Speaker 4: offensive play callers in the NFL history, Man does it 233 00:10:49,068 --> 00:10:49,948 Speaker 4: again and again and again. 234 00:10:50,028 --> 00:10:51,788 Speaker 2: So if you got to admit though, like just even 235 00:10:51,828 --> 00:10:53,948 Speaker 2: seeing those dudes just kind of march around, this is 236 00:10:53,948 --> 00:10:57,188 Speaker 2: an NFL game. This is an actual NFL game where 237 00:10:57,188 --> 00:10:57,748 Speaker 2: we witness that. 238 00:10:58,148 --> 00:11:01,788 Speaker 10: Well, I'm a professional athlete too, Okay, I'm dealing with 239 00:11:01,868 --> 00:11:04,028 Speaker 10: professional people as well. Look, I'll tell you what. I'll 240 00:11:04,028 --> 00:11:05,908 Speaker 10: give it you Chief's credit on this. They were a 241 00:11:05,908 --> 00:11:08,988 Speaker 10: little more synchronized than my mass men. The mass member 242 00:11:08,988 --> 00:11:10,588 Speaker 10: all over the place. There's a lot of jumble, a 243 00:11:10,588 --> 00:11:12,908 Speaker 10: lot of two left feet going on in there. The 244 00:11:12,948 --> 00:11:16,588 Speaker 10: Chiefs were more synchronized. However, I gotta say one of 245 00:11:16,628 --> 00:11:17,748 Speaker 10: these plays. 246 00:11:17,388 --> 00:11:20,108 Speaker 7: Worked and the other one didn't. All Right, you got 247 00:11:20,108 --> 00:11:20,708 Speaker 7: to execute. 248 00:11:20,748 --> 00:11:22,308 Speaker 10: And I don't mean to harp up my man Joe 249 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:25,028 Speaker 10: Toney because he's in Chicago now and he's sick and 250 00:11:25,028 --> 00:11:27,228 Speaker 10: he's one of the Offensive Linemen of the Year based 251 00:11:27,228 --> 00:11:30,068 Speaker 10: on the NFL Honors Awards. We love him, but he's 252 00:11:30,068 --> 00:11:32,668 Speaker 10: holding so he had to come back. They had to 253 00:11:32,668 --> 00:11:35,428 Speaker 10: redo the thing. We didn't redo the thing. We executed 254 00:11:35,468 --> 00:11:37,708 Speaker 10: the perfection, all right. We got in there, we protected 255 00:11:37,708 --> 00:11:40,788 Speaker 10: Seth Rollins, we confused everybody, and we got out of there. 256 00:11:40,908 --> 00:11:41,708 Speaker 7: And that was what we. 257 00:11:41,668 --> 00:11:44,028 Speaker 10: Had to do because Seth rowlands, that's me. I'm not 258 00:11:44,148 --> 00:11:47,108 Speaker 10: clear yet. I can't get into any real physicality. I 259 00:11:47,108 --> 00:11:50,668 Speaker 10: gotta protect his shoulder for maybe another couple of weeks 260 00:11:50,788 --> 00:11:53,628 Speaker 10: or so, and then we'll see if we need these 261 00:11:53,668 --> 00:11:55,948 Speaker 10: max men, if we need all this triggeration or not. 262 00:11:56,508 --> 00:11:58,668 Speaker 10: So kudos to read Kudo says, you know what I 263 00:11:58,708 --> 00:12:00,548 Speaker 10: saw there? There was a graphic that we had. It 264 00:12:00,588 --> 00:12:01,228 Speaker 10: was Seth. 265 00:12:01,028 --> 00:12:04,268 Speaker 7: Rollins face to face with Patrick Mahomes. 266 00:12:04,428 --> 00:12:04,628 Speaker 3: Yeah. 267 00:12:04,708 --> 00:12:06,148 Speaker 5: I know it look pretty good and I kind of 268 00:12:06,268 --> 00:12:06,508 Speaker 5: like that. 269 00:12:06,828 --> 00:12:08,188 Speaker 7: I don't know there was something. I look at it, 270 00:12:08,228 --> 00:12:08,868 Speaker 7: take a peek at it. 271 00:12:08,948 --> 00:12:09,268 Speaker 3: Let's see. 272 00:12:09,348 --> 00:12:09,668 Speaker 5: I don't know. 273 00:12:10,148 --> 00:12:14,188 Speaker 10: I think there's something here, guys. I think there's something there, 274 00:12:14,628 --> 00:12:16,748 Speaker 10: something could be brewing in the future. 275 00:12:16,748 --> 00:12:17,228 Speaker 3: Look at that. 276 00:12:17,268 --> 00:12:19,908 Speaker 10: We both got the shades on. I don't know, man, 277 00:12:19,948 --> 00:12:21,108 Speaker 10: I think I could take Patrick. 278 00:12:21,348 --> 00:12:21,868 Speaker 7: I think I can. 279 00:12:21,948 --> 00:12:24,988 Speaker 2: I think I I think I posted you for both 280 00:12:25,028 --> 00:12:25,508 Speaker 2: of you guys. 281 00:12:25,588 --> 00:12:26,228 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think. 282 00:12:26,228 --> 00:12:28,948 Speaker 10: I mean, look, you know, we're both coming off injuries. 283 00:12:28,988 --> 00:12:30,868 Speaker 10: But I think I got them. I feel like I 284 00:12:30,868 --> 00:12:31,228 Speaker 10: got them. 285 00:12:31,228 --> 00:12:32,868 Speaker 7: But I like that. I like that image. That's good. 286 00:12:32,948 --> 00:12:34,868 Speaker 7: Goats goats facing off right there. 287 00:12:35,508 --> 00:12:37,148 Speaker 2: By the way, you said a couple of two left 288 00:12:37,148 --> 00:12:39,188 Speaker 2: feet that were thrown out there in the trickeration. Can 289 00:12:39,228 --> 00:12:40,708 Speaker 2: you just tell me what's going through your mind? Is 290 00:12:40,748 --> 00:12:42,028 Speaker 2: like everyone's just kind of scrambling. 291 00:12:42,628 --> 00:12:44,148 Speaker 3: Ah, you know what. 292 00:12:44,228 --> 00:12:45,988 Speaker 7: I was just hoping nobody lost the shoe. 293 00:12:46,228 --> 00:12:48,788 Speaker 10: I was like, hopefully nobody like falls over, nobody lost 294 00:12:48,828 --> 00:12:49,148 Speaker 10: the shoe. 295 00:12:49,148 --> 00:12:50,148 Speaker 7: This is a great visual though. 296 00:12:50,148 --> 00:12:52,188 Speaker 10: Look at me there, man, Oh what a shot you 297 00:12:52,268 --> 00:12:55,028 Speaker 10: got the WrestleMania sign in the background coming up. I mean, 298 00:12:55,068 --> 00:12:56,868 Speaker 10: that's just a beautiful shot right there. But I was just, 299 00:12:57,028 --> 00:12:58,788 Speaker 10: you know, when you're dealing with a lot of bodies 300 00:12:58,868 --> 00:13:00,468 Speaker 10: like that and a lot of moving parts in the ring, 301 00:13:00,508 --> 00:13:02,068 Speaker 10: I was just hoping nobody blew out an a c 302 00:13:02,268 --> 00:13:04,828 Speaker 10: L You know I was hoping nobody nobody lost ligament 303 00:13:04,828 --> 00:13:05,268 Speaker 10: in the knee. 304 00:13:05,268 --> 00:13:05,468 Speaker 3: There. 305 00:13:05,548 --> 00:13:07,308 Speaker 5: Just don't get hurt. That's really what it comes. 306 00:13:07,188 --> 00:13:09,388 Speaker 7: To sometimes sometimes that's what it boils down. 307 00:13:10,028 --> 00:13:10,668 Speaker 5: Staying healthy. 308 00:13:10,708 --> 00:13:12,588 Speaker 2: It's the only thing that matters for all of us. 309 00:13:12,668 --> 00:13:14,508 Speaker 2: We are truly one day at a time. All right, 310 00:13:14,548 --> 00:13:18,428 Speaker 2: throw down a number three butterfingers right here. We prepped 311 00:13:18,428 --> 00:13:20,388 Speaker 2: this show. I saw this topic and I'm like, I 312 00:13:20,428 --> 00:13:22,228 Speaker 2: don't even know how I would answer this. Doctor Dre 313 00:13:22,388 --> 00:13:25,268 Speaker 2: became a billionaire in twenty twenty six. According to Forbes, 314 00:13:25,468 --> 00:13:28,908 Speaker 2: he becomes just the sixth musician, joining Beyonce, jay Z, 315 00:13:29,028 --> 00:13:32,268 Speaker 2: as well as Taylor Swift, Bruce Springsteen, and Rihanna. The 316 00:13:32,308 --> 00:13:35,548 Speaker 2: Beach Cooe founder's wealth also stems from his music career. 317 00:13:35,588 --> 00:13:38,028 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, by the way, legendary in that aspect, real 318 00:13:38,148 --> 00:13:40,988 Speaker 2: estate holdings, production ventures, and so on. 319 00:13:41,068 --> 00:13:42,668 Speaker 5: So let's throw this down right now. 320 00:13:42,708 --> 00:13:46,668 Speaker 2: Which billionaire are you putting on your playlist? More, Doctor 321 00:13:46,748 --> 00:13:52,548 Speaker 2: Dre or jay Z? This is like my college Heyday soundtrack? 322 00:13:52,628 --> 00:13:53,628 Speaker 5: Are those voices? 323 00:13:54,068 --> 00:13:55,988 Speaker 2: I truly don't know which direction to go? 324 00:13:56,228 --> 00:13:56,548 Speaker 3: All right? 325 00:13:56,588 --> 00:13:59,948 Speaker 4: Look, I think if we're being really, really honest, I 326 00:13:59,948 --> 00:14:02,548 Speaker 4: don't think either of these guys in terms of true 327 00:14:02,668 --> 00:14:05,348 Speaker 4: rap and hearing their songs are really on either of 328 00:14:05,388 --> 00:14:07,788 Speaker 4: your playlist. But if we're talking about influence, if we're 329 00:14:07,788 --> 00:14:10,028 Speaker 4: talking about influencing the rap game and hip hop, what 330 00:14:10,068 --> 00:14:11,908 Speaker 4: they've done, I mean, you got to go to doctor 331 00:14:12,228 --> 00:14:14,188 Speaker 4: with Doctor Dre If you see the kind of guys 332 00:14:14,468 --> 00:14:17,588 Speaker 4: he has influenced, that he has developed, that he's collaborated with, 333 00:14:17,628 --> 00:14:20,228 Speaker 4: the beats that he's given out. You're talking Nas, You're 334 00:14:20,228 --> 00:14:24,708 Speaker 4: talking Snoop Dogg, You're talking Eminem, Kendrick lamar Man, who 335 00:14:24,748 --> 00:14:28,028 Speaker 4: had the world the world by the balls last year 336 00:14:28,228 --> 00:14:31,508 Speaker 4: with his beat with Drake last year. 337 00:14:31,628 --> 00:14:33,588 Speaker 3: Look, you gotta go with Doctor Dre Man. 338 00:14:33,628 --> 00:14:37,348 Speaker 4: He's done a fantastic job in the music industry and 339 00:14:37,388 --> 00:14:40,348 Speaker 4: his influence obviously has been great in the rap game. 340 00:14:40,508 --> 00:14:41,508 Speaker 3: I gotta go with Doctor Dre. 341 00:14:42,108 --> 00:14:46,268 Speaker 10: Now, everyone knows I am an aficionado when it comes 342 00:14:46,308 --> 00:14:47,428 Speaker 10: to the hip hop game. 343 00:14:48,268 --> 00:14:52,148 Speaker 7: So my opinion holds so much weight here. The truth is, 344 00:14:52,308 --> 00:14:53,068 Speaker 7: I really don't know. 345 00:14:53,348 --> 00:14:53,788 Speaker 3: I don't know. 346 00:14:53,868 --> 00:14:55,628 Speaker 7: You know, I was listening to everything you said. 347 00:14:55,628 --> 00:14:57,668 Speaker 10: There could be that, and I understand it and I 348 00:14:57,748 --> 00:15:00,828 Speaker 10: respect it, but I've got to respectfully disagree, all Right, 349 00:15:01,108 --> 00:15:05,028 Speaker 10: Dre you're right, legendary producer and a visionary visionary to 350 00:15:05,108 --> 00:15:07,588 Speaker 10: another mad respect. I understand what it takes to be 351 00:15:07,628 --> 00:15:10,788 Speaker 10: a visionary way ahead of his time, for sure when 352 00:15:10,828 --> 00:15:13,388 Speaker 10: it came to being a mogul in the hip hop industry. 353 00:15:13,748 --> 00:15:17,908 Speaker 10: But jay Z, he does have some bops. He's got 354 00:15:17,908 --> 00:15:21,188 Speaker 10: some bangers in his own right that are actually, you know. 355 00:15:21,348 --> 00:15:22,628 Speaker 7: Ninety nine problems. 356 00:15:22,748 --> 00:15:25,028 Speaker 10: He's got some good ones, man, some really good ones 357 00:15:25,068 --> 00:15:26,988 Speaker 10: that are just his songs. 358 00:15:27,068 --> 00:15:29,028 Speaker 7: And so I might have to go with him. 359 00:15:29,068 --> 00:15:31,948 Speaker 10: The other thing, the other thing that jay Z has 360 00:15:31,988 --> 00:15:35,708 Speaker 10: done that is very important from one man who's done it. 361 00:15:36,468 --> 00:15:39,308 Speaker 10: He married up, all right, I get married up. We 362 00:15:39,428 --> 00:15:42,748 Speaker 10: mentioned you ran that list of billionaires. His wife was 363 00:15:42,788 --> 00:15:45,268 Speaker 10: on that list too. What are we talking about here? 364 00:15:45,308 --> 00:15:48,068 Speaker 10: That's crazy. So you marry up, you do yourself a service. 365 00:15:48,108 --> 00:15:50,708 Speaker 10: I know I've done the same thing. I married up 366 00:15:50,748 --> 00:15:53,268 Speaker 10: with my wife, and I'm telling you that that's a 367 00:15:53,268 --> 00:15:54,828 Speaker 10: sign of an intelligent man right there. 368 00:15:54,868 --> 00:15:56,828 Speaker 7: So I gotta go with my man, jay Z. I 369 00:15:56,828 --> 00:15:57,748 Speaker 7: gotta give it to him. 370 00:15:58,148 --> 00:16:02,868 Speaker 2: I think I might actually lean your way on this one. 371 00:16:03,028 --> 00:16:04,748 Speaker 5: I'm not even one sure. 372 00:16:05,068 --> 00:16:07,388 Speaker 2: I really don't even know, Like you're just starting to 373 00:16:07,428 --> 00:16:09,148 Speaker 2: sell me here number one. I think if I need 374 00:16:09,148 --> 00:16:12,508 Speaker 2: a loan, maybe maybe the jay Z Beyonce connection is there. 375 00:16:12,908 --> 00:16:15,468 Speaker 2: I on's the last time I know life gets in 376 00:16:15,468 --> 00:16:15,708 Speaker 2: the way. 377 00:16:15,748 --> 00:16:16,988 Speaker 5: I think the last time I And. 378 00:16:16,948 --> 00:16:19,188 Speaker 2: Look, this is like probably dating myself, like you put 379 00:16:19,228 --> 00:16:21,228 Speaker 2: the CD in the CD player, just let the whole 380 00:16:21,268 --> 00:16:24,708 Speaker 2: album go, probably when I was in like the Blueprint 381 00:16:24,868 --> 00:16:27,908 Speaker 2: jay Z like that's that college soundtrack for me. So 382 00:16:27,948 --> 00:16:31,068 Speaker 2: that's probably the only reason why that way. Either way, 383 00:16:31,068 --> 00:16:32,468 Speaker 2: did you say you don't have either one of those 384 00:16:32,508 --> 00:16:33,628 Speaker 2: guys on a playlist? 385 00:16:33,668 --> 00:16:36,788 Speaker 3: I don't me neither. Being honest, me neither. Look, I'm 386 00:16:36,788 --> 00:16:39,788 Speaker 3: a born in ninety six guy. Oh god, I'm alsto 387 00:16:39,908 --> 00:16:42,028 Speaker 3: twenty nine. I'm gonna put it out there. I'm twenty nine. 388 00:16:42,708 --> 00:16:44,748 Speaker 4: But look, I think you guys are both lying because 389 00:16:44,788 --> 00:16:48,068 Speaker 4: I don't think either of their songs are actually in 390 00:16:48,148 --> 00:16:50,988 Speaker 4: any of you guys's playlist. If we're being honest, I 391 00:16:51,068 --> 00:16:52,788 Speaker 4: love to take out the phones right now. I gotta 392 00:16:52,828 --> 00:16:55,668 Speaker 4: see it. I gotta see it. Don't even know on 393 00:16:55,748 --> 00:16:58,148 Speaker 4: TV right now, I just like the WW I gotta 394 00:16:58,188 --> 00:16:58,508 Speaker 4: see it. 395 00:16:58,548 --> 00:17:00,508 Speaker 7: I mean, is there a run this Town? 396 00:17:00,588 --> 00:17:01,188 Speaker 3: Is that jay Z? 397 00:17:01,748 --> 00:17:04,028 Speaker 7: Run this Town? Is that the one? I got that one. 398 00:17:04,068 --> 00:17:05,228 Speaker 7: I got that one's on the. 399 00:17:06,748 --> 00:17:06,908 Speaker 5: Car. 400 00:17:08,668 --> 00:17:10,828 Speaker 2: See, I knew I'm not going to play because don't 401 00:17:10,828 --> 00:17:12,228 Speaker 2: want to get in trouble. We probably didn't pay for 402 00:17:12,228 --> 00:17:14,308 Speaker 2: those music rights. But like, I have a playlist. Hear 403 00:17:14,348 --> 00:17:17,348 Speaker 2: it called college hits. Just start scrolling through. You start seeing, 404 00:17:17,428 --> 00:17:20,028 Speaker 2: by the way, there's a heavy came up first. 405 00:17:20,108 --> 00:17:22,148 Speaker 3: There's a doctor Dray influenced. I see jay Z. 406 00:17:24,748 --> 00:17:26,828 Speaker 7: Over there. 407 00:17:28,268 --> 00:17:29,468 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give it to them. 408 00:17:29,308 --> 00:17:31,828 Speaker 2: By the way, me not like what happened. I used 409 00:17:31,828 --> 00:17:33,428 Speaker 2: to be the young guy on every set. 410 00:17:33,508 --> 00:17:34,388 Speaker 7: This is a child here. 411 00:17:34,508 --> 00:17:40,708 Speaker 5: Times have changed. I have to shave someone. I get 412 00:17:40,708 --> 00:17:41,468 Speaker 5: the whites coming in. 413 00:17:42,628 --> 00:17:44,468 Speaker 2: Not a great look, and it bothers me a whole lot, 414 00:17:45,028 --> 00:17:47,828 Speaker 2: by the way. So I guess it's the answer. 415 00:17:47,828 --> 00:17:49,708 Speaker 5: Maybe is j C. Because it's jay Z, because it's 416 00:17:49,708 --> 00:17:51,348 Speaker 5: two to one. That's really what I call. 417 00:17:51,388 --> 00:17:53,908 Speaker 3: I heard, we went, I heard j C. Jason jay Z. 418 00:17:57,308 --> 00:18:02,268 Speaker 5: Nice, he's the answer. It's always this one. 419 00:18:03,628 --> 00:18:06,228 Speaker 2: Welcome back here to Good Morning Football. Super excited to 420 00:18:06,228 --> 00:18:07,908 Speaker 2: have our next guest, Jason. Now we're talking about this 421 00:18:07,948 --> 00:18:09,868 Speaker 2: beere we got out here, certainly jacked to for and 422 00:18:09,908 --> 00:18:12,548 Speaker 2: former receiver nine years in the league. 423 00:18:12,548 --> 00:18:13,268 Speaker 5: He's got a new. 424 00:18:13,108 --> 00:18:16,468 Speaker 2: Book, Still Growing, still Learning, still meet. It is out 425 00:18:16,508 --> 00:18:21,628 Speaker 2: right now we welcome in, Kenny. Still, let's go all right. 426 00:18:21,628 --> 00:18:23,388 Speaker 2: I got to ask you obviously about the book. We'll 427 00:18:23,388 --> 00:18:25,188 Speaker 2: get into that in your journey. But this is a 428 00:18:25,228 --> 00:18:27,388 Speaker 2: crazy time of the year for all NFL fans, free 429 00:18:27,428 --> 00:18:30,108 Speaker 2: agency season. You've been in the position before pull back 430 00:18:30,148 --> 00:18:32,188 Speaker 2: the curtain for me shed some light on what it's 431 00:18:32,268 --> 00:18:34,588 Speaker 2: actually like from a player's perspective. 432 00:18:35,468 --> 00:18:36,308 Speaker 3: I mean, it's exciting. 433 00:18:36,508 --> 00:18:38,948 Speaker 9: You know that you have a new opportunity on the horizon, 434 00:18:39,668 --> 00:18:42,108 Speaker 9: you know, obviously a chance to make some more money 435 00:18:42,508 --> 00:18:45,388 Speaker 9: and build that generational wealth, and so yeah, it's it's exciting. 436 00:18:45,708 --> 00:18:47,028 Speaker 9: But at the same time, you just want it to 437 00:18:47,068 --> 00:18:48,668 Speaker 9: be over so you can start, you know, with that 438 00:18:48,748 --> 00:18:52,588 Speaker 9: new team and you know, get get on the opportunity 439 00:18:52,628 --> 00:18:54,788 Speaker 9: to you know, win a Super Bowl and and you know, 440 00:18:54,788 --> 00:18:55,788 Speaker 9: start making more plays. 441 00:18:56,788 --> 00:18:59,108 Speaker 10: Kenny, I don't know how much you've been following the 442 00:18:59,148 --> 00:19:02,708 Speaker 10: free agent frenzy, but this Max Crosby saga has been 443 00:19:02,748 --> 00:19:03,308 Speaker 10: going on for. 444 00:19:03,268 --> 00:19:06,548 Speaker 7: A few days now. A little split here. 445 00:19:06,788 --> 00:19:09,148 Speaker 10: Mike g earlier was saying, you know, he thinks everything's 446 00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:11,148 Speaker 10: on the up and up. I think something's a little 447 00:19:11,148 --> 00:19:13,828 Speaker 10: bit fishy with the whole thing. If you have been 448 00:19:13,868 --> 00:19:17,348 Speaker 10: following the Max Crosby saga, what were your thoughts when 449 00:19:17,388 --> 00:19:19,588 Speaker 10: you heard the news the Ravens were calling the trade off. 450 00:19:20,588 --> 00:19:23,428 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's hard to say. I've been following, but 451 00:19:23,668 --> 00:19:25,988 Speaker 9: you know, there's so much news and fake news out there, 452 00:19:25,988 --> 00:19:27,948 Speaker 9: it's hard to say and hard to know what's really true. 453 00:19:28,388 --> 00:19:30,588 Speaker 9: And so it looks like something a little bit fishy 454 00:19:30,628 --> 00:19:32,228 Speaker 9: what's going on? But I guess we'll have to wait 455 00:19:32,268 --> 00:19:32,788 Speaker 9: and find out. 456 00:19:34,228 --> 00:19:34,548 Speaker 3: Kenny. 457 00:19:34,668 --> 00:19:36,108 Speaker 2: You know, I was slipping through the book before we 458 00:19:36,148 --> 00:19:37,508 Speaker 2: got out here, and I want to ask you about 459 00:19:37,508 --> 00:19:40,508 Speaker 2: it because it's not like the typical autobiography. There's a 460 00:19:40,548 --> 00:19:43,788 Speaker 2: big focus in you finding your own voice through activism. 461 00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:46,508 Speaker 2: You know, is there a moment for you that stands 462 00:19:46,548 --> 00:19:48,748 Speaker 2: out where you kind of felt like you had this awakening? 463 00:19:49,948 --> 00:19:53,268 Speaker 9: Yeah, honestly, just going through the process. We start the protest, 464 00:19:53,388 --> 00:19:55,788 Speaker 9: and the media narrative was that we were anti American, 465 00:19:55,908 --> 00:19:59,348 Speaker 9: anti police, anti military, and so when you have outside 466 00:19:59,348 --> 00:20:01,988 Speaker 9: world saying these things about you, you have to learn 467 00:20:02,028 --> 00:20:04,108 Speaker 9: how to go and figure out who you are, what 468 00:20:04,228 --> 00:20:06,628 Speaker 9: you true identity is. And so that's what really pushed 469 00:20:06,628 --> 00:20:09,108 Speaker 9: me to go to therapy and ask for help. And 470 00:20:09,148 --> 00:20:10,588 Speaker 9: that's why I wrote this book, and I want to 471 00:20:10,668 --> 00:20:13,268 Speaker 9: encourage other men, other people to know that it's okay 472 00:20:13,268 --> 00:20:15,588 Speaker 9: to ask for help, It's okay to go in and 473 00:20:15,708 --> 00:20:17,508 Speaker 9: try and work on yourself and become the best version 474 00:20:17,548 --> 00:20:18,028 Speaker 9: of yourself. 475 00:20:19,268 --> 00:20:20,828 Speaker 3: That's really really inspiring. 476 00:20:20,868 --> 00:20:22,868 Speaker 4: There's been, you know, a focus over these last few 477 00:20:22,948 --> 00:20:25,588 Speaker 4: years about mental health, about being able. 478 00:20:25,348 --> 00:20:26,028 Speaker 3: To ask for help. 479 00:20:26,028 --> 00:20:28,748 Speaker 4: We see Dak Prescott and kind of his vision for 480 00:20:28,788 --> 00:20:30,908 Speaker 4: that as well, So, you know, awesome stuff. You know, 481 00:20:30,948 --> 00:20:34,468 Speaker 4: you talk a lot in your book about your healing process. 482 00:20:34,588 --> 00:20:36,668 Speaker 4: Can you tell us a little bit about your personal journey? 483 00:20:37,748 --> 00:20:41,228 Speaker 9: Yeah, No, So it started with you know, being vulnerable enough, 484 00:20:41,268 --> 00:20:43,708 Speaker 9: putting my ego to the side to ask for help, 485 00:20:44,148 --> 00:20:46,828 Speaker 9: and then being willing and wanting to do the work right, 486 00:20:46,948 --> 00:20:49,108 Speaker 9: just figuring out, okay, I had things that I needed 487 00:20:49,148 --> 00:20:51,908 Speaker 9: to recognize and work on from you know, past trauma 488 00:20:51,948 --> 00:20:55,028 Speaker 9: from my childhood, but then also now just trying to 489 00:20:55,028 --> 00:20:58,068 Speaker 9: figure out my new identity during the protests and then 490 00:20:58,108 --> 00:21:01,988 Speaker 9: post you know, post football and in the transition process. 491 00:21:02,468 --> 00:21:05,668 Speaker 9: And so, yeah, just really putting the ego to the side, 492 00:21:05,788 --> 00:21:07,628 Speaker 9: be it vulnerable enough to ask for help and know 493 00:21:07,748 --> 00:21:10,148 Speaker 9: that you know that there's an opportunity for us to 494 00:21:10,228 --> 00:21:10,708 Speaker 9: be better. 495 00:21:12,348 --> 00:21:15,868 Speaker 10: So, Kenny, what is one thing, If you can narrow 496 00:21:15,988 --> 00:21:19,388 Speaker 10: down to one thing, what's like the biggest takeaway you 497 00:21:19,468 --> 00:21:22,948 Speaker 10: want readers to walk away with after finishing this book. 498 00:21:24,268 --> 00:21:26,708 Speaker 9: The biggest takeaway, I would say is just to follow 499 00:21:26,708 --> 00:21:28,828 Speaker 9: your heart and follow your calling. You know, I was 500 00:21:29,108 --> 00:21:32,788 Speaker 9: not interested in politics or any type of social movements 501 00:21:32,788 --> 00:21:35,428 Speaker 9: before I got involved in activism and taking a knee, 502 00:21:35,548 --> 00:21:37,588 Speaker 9: and for some reason, I was feeling called in that 503 00:21:37,708 --> 00:21:40,228 Speaker 9: year to get involved, and so that's what I did, 504 00:21:40,588 --> 00:21:43,548 Speaker 9: and that journey, you know, pushed me towards the mental 505 00:21:43,548 --> 00:21:47,828 Speaker 9: health space and learning about myself and that has given 506 00:21:47,868 --> 00:21:49,748 Speaker 9: me the tools to be able to handle anything that 507 00:21:49,788 --> 00:21:52,868 Speaker 9: life throws at me. And so just encouraging other people 508 00:21:52,948 --> 00:21:56,388 Speaker 9: to follow that calling, regardless of if it feels comfortable 509 00:21:56,468 --> 00:21:59,068 Speaker 9: or if you know why, but you know God's calling 510 00:21:59,108 --> 00:22:00,748 Speaker 9: on you to do something and you need to answer 511 00:22:00,748 --> 00:22:01,068 Speaker 9: that call. 512 00:22:01,708 --> 00:22:02,028 Speaker 5: Kenny. 513 00:22:02,028 --> 00:22:04,588 Speaker 2: I love how vulnerable you are in this book sort 514 00:22:04,628 --> 00:22:06,508 Speaker 2: of sharing your story and some of those lessons. But 515 00:22:06,548 --> 00:22:08,628 Speaker 2: I want to take some of the lessons from your 516 00:22:08,668 --> 00:22:11,148 Speaker 2: mental health wellness journey and apply it to what was 517 00:22:11,148 --> 00:22:13,068 Speaker 2: actually happening on the field. You're actually part of the 518 00:22:13,068 --> 00:22:16,388 Speaker 2: miracle in Miami play back in twenty eighteen against the Patriots. 519 00:22:16,468 --> 00:22:19,068 Speaker 2: Take me onto the field into that moment. What's it 520 00:22:19,268 --> 00:22:22,988 Speaker 2: like to experience something like that and how does it 521 00:22:23,028 --> 00:22:25,348 Speaker 2: shift sort of like what does it teach it about mindset? 522 00:22:26,468 --> 00:22:29,588 Speaker 9: Yeah, so we were actually with my life coach at 523 00:22:29,588 --> 00:22:32,348 Speaker 9: the time, working on this radical positivity. And I had 524 00:22:32,388 --> 00:22:36,468 Speaker 9: struggle with the way that I thought about certain things, 525 00:22:36,468 --> 00:22:38,148 Speaker 9: like she asked me one time, what do you think 526 00:22:38,188 --> 00:22:40,108 Speaker 9: when the ball is in the air? And I always 527 00:22:40,108 --> 00:22:43,228 Speaker 9: would think, don't drop it. And so this negative way 528 00:22:43,268 --> 00:22:46,268 Speaker 9: of thinking was how I perceived the game all the time. 529 00:22:46,348 --> 00:22:48,948 Speaker 9: And so in this one particular game, we were working 530 00:22:48,948 --> 00:22:51,908 Speaker 9: on just being positive regardless of the outcome or the situation. 531 00:22:52,588 --> 00:22:54,468 Speaker 9: And yeah, so this is one of those games We're 532 00:22:54,508 --> 00:22:57,428 Speaker 9: losing and without throughout the whole time, I'm thinking to myself, Okay, 533 00:22:57,468 --> 00:22:58,748 Speaker 9: we're going to win this game. We're going to win 534 00:22:58,788 --> 00:23:02,228 Speaker 9: this game, and then we win in a miraculous fashion, 535 00:23:02,228 --> 00:23:03,508 Speaker 9: and of course I was a part of that. And 536 00:23:03,548 --> 00:23:06,228 Speaker 9: so yeah, just is the moment for me where this 537 00:23:06,308 --> 00:23:10,108 Speaker 9: type of mindset where we could realize that we can 538 00:23:10,228 --> 00:23:13,628 Speaker 9: manifest you know, these things for us, and it happened 539 00:23:13,668 --> 00:23:14,788 Speaker 9: right there on the grand stage. 540 00:23:15,508 --> 00:23:17,508 Speaker 3: That play was super, super memorable. 541 00:23:17,548 --> 00:23:20,748 Speaker 4: I know one of our former colleagues, Devin mccordy, still 542 00:23:20,788 --> 00:23:23,868 Speaker 4: has nightmares about that because he was subbed out, but 543 00:23:23,948 --> 00:23:27,188 Speaker 4: with Gronkowski, and Gronkowski is really the reason why you 544 00:23:27,228 --> 00:23:30,828 Speaker 4: guys scored there as he was cheating out for that touchdown. 545 00:23:30,868 --> 00:23:32,828 Speaker 3: Man, you know you're back with the NFL. 546 00:23:32,868 --> 00:23:35,868 Speaker 4: You're working with the NFL Legends program, talking to players 547 00:23:35,868 --> 00:23:36,988 Speaker 4: and helping advise them. 548 00:23:37,188 --> 00:23:38,508 Speaker 3: Tell us some of the things that you talk with 549 00:23:38,548 --> 00:23:38,988 Speaker 3: them about. 550 00:23:39,868 --> 00:23:42,868 Speaker 9: Yeah, just making sure guys know about the resources that 551 00:23:42,908 --> 00:23:45,428 Speaker 9: the league as for us. You know, whether that's filing 552 00:23:45,468 --> 00:23:49,388 Speaker 9: for disability or any type of mental health help, regardless 553 00:23:49,388 --> 00:23:51,388 Speaker 9: of what it is. Just knowing that there's these resources 554 00:23:51,388 --> 00:23:53,388 Speaker 9: out there and that we need to use them, right. 555 00:23:53,908 --> 00:23:55,508 Speaker 9: You know, We've had people that have fought for them 556 00:23:55,508 --> 00:23:58,068 Speaker 9: and worked for them, and so just making sure not 557 00:23:58,108 --> 00:24:00,348 Speaker 9: only wellness check ins with guys and making sure they 558 00:24:00,348 --> 00:24:02,468 Speaker 9: know that the resources are available to us and that 559 00:24:02,508 --> 00:24:04,148 Speaker 9: we need to go and take advantage of them. 560 00:24:04,668 --> 00:24:06,348 Speaker 2: Kenny, before let you get going, I know that the 561 00:24:06,468 --> 00:24:08,228 Speaker 2: writing a book, this is a labor of love for you. 562 00:24:08,588 --> 00:24:11,028 Speaker 2: I get it, there's the promos, you're doing interviews, the 563 00:24:11,068 --> 00:24:11,548 Speaker 2: whole thing. 564 00:24:11,588 --> 00:24:12,268 Speaker 5: I couldn't help. 565 00:24:12,308 --> 00:24:16,268 Speaker 2: But notice though a shoot that you did, you're hanging out, 566 00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:19,428 Speaker 2: you're reading. I'm pretty sure this is how Seth actually 567 00:24:19,668 --> 00:24:22,108 Speaker 2: reads all of his books. But I don't know if 568 00:24:22,148 --> 00:24:25,348 Speaker 2: we have the photo here, You're not wearing anything like. 569 00:24:28,268 --> 00:24:29,428 Speaker 5: What's going on here? Man? 570 00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:29,548 Speaker 10: Like? 571 00:24:29,668 --> 00:24:33,628 Speaker 2: Is this like the normal like reading routine for you? 572 00:24:33,628 --> 00:24:36,988 Speaker 9: You know, I was the book is vulnerable, right, and 573 00:24:37,308 --> 00:24:40,468 Speaker 9: being naked as vulnerable. But I also, you know, thought 574 00:24:40,468 --> 00:24:42,308 Speaker 9: about one of the things during my career. I always 575 00:24:42,308 --> 00:24:44,188 Speaker 9: wanted to be a part of the ESPN Body mag 576 00:24:44,268 --> 00:24:45,628 Speaker 9: and I never got to be a part of it. 577 00:24:46,028 --> 00:24:48,268 Speaker 9: And so it's a combination of, yes, the vulnerability of 578 00:24:48,308 --> 00:24:50,508 Speaker 9: the book, but then you know, some inspiration that I 579 00:24:50,548 --> 00:24:52,028 Speaker 9: had from you know, wanting to be a part of 580 00:24:52,068 --> 00:24:53,508 Speaker 9: another shoot that I wasn't a part of. 581 00:24:54,668 --> 00:24:55,508 Speaker 5: The double dip. 582 00:24:55,588 --> 00:24:58,508 Speaker 2: I like where your head's at with YEA, seriously, Matt, 583 00:24:58,828 --> 00:25:02,148 Speaker 2: congratulations once again, here here's the book an opportunity to 584 00:25:02,228 --> 00:25:05,108 Speaker 2: hear some of these vulnerable moments and hopefully, and I 585 00:25:05,148 --> 00:25:06,908 Speaker 2: know Seth was asking you about what you wanted people 586 00:25:06,988 --> 00:25:08,988 Speaker 2: to take away from from your story and I think 587 00:25:09,028 --> 00:25:11,268 Speaker 2: there's a lot of growth that people can have. Everyone 588 00:25:11,348 --> 00:25:13,028 Speaker 2: you can go out there, you can buy still growing, 589 00:25:13,108 --> 00:25:15,948 Speaker 2: still learning, still me wherever you get your books, Kenny, 590 00:25:15,948 --> 00:25:18,548 Speaker 2: once again, man, I appreciate the time and good luckman 591 00:25:18,628 --> 00:25:20,868 Speaker 2: with the book sales and at least for us, however 592 00:25:20,908 --> 00:25:22,388 Speaker 2: you want to read your books, you do. 593 00:25:23,828 --> 00:25:24,068 Speaker 3: Thank you. 594 00:25:24,468 --> 00:25:25,028 Speaker 9: We'll talk soon. 595 00:25:31,388 --> 00:25:34,908 Speaker 7: Well, the ghost of an MVP Rogers lifted Steelers. 596 00:25:34,428 --> 00:25:37,268 Speaker 4: Comb and they haven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen, 597 00:25:37,308 --> 00:25:37,828 Speaker 4: and all that. 598 00:25:37,748 --> 00:25:40,828 Speaker 3: Pressure on the outside. That's the nature of sports media. 599 00:25:41,188 --> 00:25:42,068 Speaker 3: Then it is what it is. 600 00:25:42,548 --> 00:25:44,268 Speaker 9: Mike T's probably like me, though the doesn't give a 601 00:25:44,268 --> 00:25:45,708 Speaker 9: whole lot of about those comments. 602 00:25:46,348 --> 00:25:49,028 Speaker 5: Winner of this game is the AFC North Champion. I 603 00:25:49,148 --> 00:25:51,108 Speaker 5: was confident opting left as a man. 604 00:25:51,068 --> 00:25:53,028 Speaker 10: Wide over touchdown Steelers. 605 00:25:53,188 --> 00:25:53,748 Speaker 5: That kick is. 606 00:25:55,828 --> 00:25:57,308 Speaker 2: I love you. 607 00:25:57,308 --> 00:25:57,748 Speaker 10: You know. 608 00:25:59,228 --> 00:26:01,548 Speaker 3: I care about Whinny. That's why I'm here. 609 00:26:01,868 --> 00:26:04,628 Speaker 4: And I'm never surprised when he smiles in the face 610 00:26:04,628 --> 00:26:06,228 Speaker 4: of adversity and delivers for us. 611 00:26:06,548 --> 00:26:08,788 Speaker 5: This was a decision that was best for my soul. 612 00:26:09,908 --> 00:26:10,628 Speaker 6: We love Mike T. 613 00:26:13,468 --> 00:26:14,988 Speaker 5: Last ride, one more ride. 614 00:26:15,108 --> 00:26:18,268 Speaker 2: We bring in our NFL network and satda Ian Rappaport, 615 00:26:18,268 --> 00:26:20,748 Speaker 2: who has been breaking story after story this week Ian 616 00:26:21,428 --> 00:26:23,428 Speaker 2: on this Rogers front. I know, you know, his last 617 00:26:23,468 --> 00:26:25,468 Speaker 2: game played. Just even watching him walk off the field, 618 00:26:25,508 --> 00:26:27,028 Speaker 2: he kind of felt like it might be the last 619 00:26:27,068 --> 00:26:28,788 Speaker 2: one and the last time we see him out there. 620 00:26:28,828 --> 00:26:30,948 Speaker 2: It turns out that maybe not the case at all. 621 00:26:30,988 --> 00:26:33,428 Speaker 2: What do we need to know about the timeline and 622 00:26:33,468 --> 00:26:34,828 Speaker 2: whether or not this guy's coming back. 623 00:26:35,268 --> 00:26:38,548 Speaker 6: My understanding was Aaron Rodgers had planned to inform these 624 00:26:38,548 --> 00:26:41,948 Speaker 6: Steelers of his decision at some point before the draft, 625 00:26:42,028 --> 00:26:43,348 Speaker 6: with plenty of time, I would say. 626 00:26:43,388 --> 00:26:44,948 Speaker 7: Likely end of this month. 627 00:26:45,068 --> 00:26:48,308 Speaker 6: Now to do timeline reporting on Aaron Rodgers has proved 628 00:26:48,348 --> 00:26:49,548 Speaker 6: to be a little bit of a challenge. I think 629 00:26:49,628 --> 00:26:51,388 Speaker 6: last year a lot of people thought who would make 630 00:26:51,428 --> 00:26:52,948 Speaker 6: a decision early in the offseason. 631 00:26:53,228 --> 00:26:55,228 Speaker 3: It ended up being really really late. 632 00:26:55,028 --> 00:26:57,228 Speaker 6: In the off season before he ultimately decided to join 633 00:26:57,308 --> 00:26:59,388 Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers. 634 00:26:59,548 --> 00:27:00,788 Speaker 3: Similar situation now. 635 00:27:00,828 --> 00:27:03,748 Speaker 6: He has been having conversations with the Steelers, with members 636 00:27:03,748 --> 00:27:05,708 Speaker 6: of their front off us, with the new coaching staff 637 00:27:05,708 --> 00:27:08,308 Speaker 6: of Mike McCarthy that he knows really really well from 638 00:27:08,348 --> 00:27:10,908 Speaker 6: their time in Green Bay. Just hasn't had a firm 639 00:27:10,948 --> 00:27:15,228 Speaker 6: and final decision on where he goes and what he does. 640 00:27:15,348 --> 00:27:18,628 Speaker 6: So you notice these Steelers have not really done anything 641 00:27:18,628 --> 00:27:21,388 Speaker 6: at the quarterback position. They still will, Howard, they still 642 00:27:21,388 --> 00:27:23,748 Speaker 6: can make some other movies that can. You know, Kirk 643 00:27:23,788 --> 00:27:25,628 Speaker 6: Cousins is still going to be available. They can bring 644 00:27:25,708 --> 00:27:27,828 Speaker 6: him in. I mean there are other things they could do. 645 00:27:27,868 --> 00:27:29,068 Speaker 6: They could draft a quarterback. 646 00:27:29,388 --> 00:27:30,068 Speaker 7: But I think it's. 647 00:27:29,908 --> 00:27:31,988 Speaker 6: Safe to say, based on the way it was last year, 648 00:27:32,028 --> 00:27:34,908 Speaker 6: based on Rodgers' relationship with the team, how much funny 649 00:27:34,948 --> 00:27:38,388 Speaker 6: Ad and you know, played more than well enough to 650 00:27:38,468 --> 00:27:40,068 Speaker 6: be able to come back, I think it's safe to 651 00:27:40,068 --> 00:27:43,508 Speaker 6: say the Steelers aren't doing anything until and unless they 652 00:27:43,588 --> 00:27:46,028 Speaker 6: actually hear from Aaron Rodgers. 653 00:27:46,068 --> 00:27:48,468 Speaker 3: So we are waiting, we are watching. 654 00:27:48,548 --> 00:27:50,988 Speaker 6: I would say the likelihood is is that he's back 655 00:27:51,348 --> 00:27:53,908 Speaker 6: with the Pittsburgh Steelers, but it is Aaron Rodgers, and 656 00:27:53,948 --> 00:27:58,308 Speaker 6: you just don't know until official official word coming. 657 00:27:58,388 --> 00:28:00,548 Speaker 2: Now, when that official word comes in, I know you 658 00:28:00,548 --> 00:28:02,508 Speaker 2: will have us covered here on NFL Network. 659 00:28:02,628 --> 00:28:03,268 Speaker 5: Much appreciate it. 660 00:28:04,428 --> 00:28:08,788 Speaker 2: I'm what's your beef presented by old Trapper? All right, Seth, 661 00:28:09,628 --> 00:28:11,908 Speaker 2: you got a little beef with the one free agent 662 00:28:11,948 --> 00:28:13,548 Speaker 2: in particular, I can hear. 663 00:28:13,428 --> 00:28:18,348 Speaker 10: It, Stewing, you could probably hear it stewing during that entire, yes, 664 00:28:18,628 --> 00:28:21,548 Speaker 10: that entire ian segment there, because I'm just I'm I'm 665 00:28:21,708 --> 00:28:25,828 Speaker 10: I'm incredulous. What is my beef? The real question is 666 00:28:26,188 --> 00:28:28,988 Speaker 10: how much beef do I have? And if we take 667 00:28:28,988 --> 00:28:31,628 Speaker 10: a look at this table here, we had he standing 668 00:28:31,708 --> 00:28:37,068 Speaker 10: up so much beef on this table, and it's still 669 00:28:37,348 --> 00:28:40,668 Speaker 10: it's not enough beef. All right, it's not enough beef 670 00:28:40,668 --> 00:28:44,428 Speaker 10: because I have an insane amount of beef with this guy. 671 00:28:44,548 --> 00:28:47,788 Speaker 10: All right, what are we talking about here? This is 672 00:28:47,948 --> 00:28:51,068 Speaker 10: not a quarterback in his prime, guys, this is not 673 00:28:51,548 --> 00:28:55,388 Speaker 10: The Steelers squeaked into the playoffs last year because the 674 00:28:55,508 --> 00:28:58,508 Speaker 10: Ravens kicker missed an easy field goal. 675 00:28:58,708 --> 00:28:59,788 Speaker 7: The Ravens, who. 676 00:28:59,668 --> 00:29:02,708 Speaker 10: Were out of the playoff race and they snuck back in, 677 00:29:03,068 --> 00:29:06,068 Speaker 10: had no business even being in that game, and they were. 678 00:29:06,348 --> 00:29:09,108 Speaker 10: And that's the only reason the Steelers got in the playoffs. 679 00:29:09,148 --> 00:29:11,668 Speaker 10: It had nothing to do with Rogers, it had nothing 680 00:29:11,668 --> 00:29:14,348 Speaker 10: to do with him. Mike Tomlin, what's his mo? What 681 00:29:14,428 --> 00:29:16,948 Speaker 10: was his He'd get the Steelers to the playoffs and 682 00:29:16,988 --> 00:29:19,188 Speaker 10: then they'd lose the playoffs game. That's been the reputation, 683 00:29:19,348 --> 00:29:22,628 Speaker 10: and that's exactly what happened with Aaron Rodgers. Gonna happened 684 00:29:22,668 --> 00:29:26,628 Speaker 10: with Kirk Cousins absolutely, could have happened with Kyler Murray. Absolutely, 685 00:29:26,788 --> 00:29:30,708 Speaker 10: but Tomlin's not there anymore, McCarthy's there, and Rogers is 686 00:29:30,788 --> 00:29:32,908 Speaker 10: not the guy they want him to be. This is 687 00:29:32,988 --> 00:29:36,028 Speaker 10: not Aaron Rodgers five years ago. Look, I understood it 688 00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:38,548 Speaker 10: when he was with Green Bay. I understand he was 689 00:29:38,588 --> 00:29:41,188 Speaker 10: in the prime of his career. He was a baller, 690 00:29:41,228 --> 00:29:43,548 Speaker 10: he could make every single throw, He could make throws 691 00:29:43,548 --> 00:29:46,828 Speaker 10: with his legs. And now this Aaron Rodgers should be 692 00:29:46,948 --> 00:29:50,748 Speaker 10: hanging up and waiting for his time to go to Canton. 693 00:29:51,228 --> 00:29:52,788 Speaker 10: Say what you will about him, and I see a 694 00:29:52,828 --> 00:29:54,788 Speaker 10: lot of things about him. He's gonna be a Hall 695 00:29:54,828 --> 00:29:58,788 Speaker 10: of Famer. Absolutely, he is not going to win another 696 00:29:58,948 --> 00:30:03,428 Speaker 10: Super Bowl in his career. It's not gonna happen, and 697 00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:07,668 Speaker 10: it's especially not gonna happen with this Steelers team as 698 00:30:07,668 --> 00:30:12,108 Speaker 10: it is right now. They need to restructure, rebuild, and 699 00:30:12,148 --> 00:30:15,948 Speaker 10: they need to do that with a quarterback. Now we're talking, Oh, okay, 700 00:30:16,028 --> 00:30:17,028 Speaker 10: the draft is coming up. 701 00:30:17,068 --> 00:30:19,588 Speaker 7: We know this quarterback class is not very good. We 702 00:30:19,708 --> 00:30:20,108 Speaker 7: know that. 703 00:30:20,148 --> 00:30:23,028 Speaker 10: We understand Number one probably gonna get a quarterback. After that, 704 00:30:23,308 --> 00:30:25,668 Speaker 10: I don't know what there is and so I've got 705 00:30:25,708 --> 00:30:28,828 Speaker 10: a lot of beef with the Steelers holding up their 706 00:30:28,988 --> 00:30:34,548 Speaker 10: great organization for Aaron Rodgers, who is no longer a Super. 707 00:30:34,308 --> 00:30:36,108 Speaker 5: Bowl CAABA quarterback. 708 00:30:36,588 --> 00:30:38,868 Speaker 3: That's my beef, that's my beef. 709 00:30:38,948 --> 00:30:40,828 Speaker 7: What are these cups attached to the beef? 710 00:30:40,828 --> 00:30:41,028 Speaker 3: Four? 711 00:30:41,228 --> 00:30:41,588 Speaker 5: Come on? 712 00:30:44,068 --> 00:30:45,548 Speaker 7: Wow? 713 00:30:45,708 --> 00:30:48,708 Speaker 3: How do I even follow? You don't benda, You don't 714 00:30:48,748 --> 00:30:51,108 Speaker 3: have no idea how I do? Man? Is it? Look? 715 00:30:51,668 --> 00:30:54,948 Speaker 3: Is it Aaron Rodgers that's holding the Steelers hostage? Yet? 716 00:30:54,988 --> 00:30:57,428 Speaker 4: I think me and my gams might have to make 717 00:30:57,468 --> 00:31:00,108 Speaker 4: a couple of phone calls with Costa Rica and see it. 718 00:31:00,308 --> 00:31:04,148 Speaker 4: Maybe Aaron Rodgers is on a little retrieve darkness, little darkness. 719 00:31:04,708 --> 00:31:06,948 Speaker 4: Do you know Iohua is gonna figure out if he's 720 00:31:06,948 --> 00:31:07,628 Speaker 4: gonna keep. 721 00:31:07,548 --> 00:31:11,108 Speaker 3: On playing next year? I don't know what's gonna happen 722 00:31:11,148 --> 00:31:11,748 Speaker 3: with this guy. 723 00:31:12,148 --> 00:31:13,668 Speaker 5: Legitimately, though, What do you do? 724 00:31:13,708 --> 00:31:15,948 Speaker 2: Because I think Seth makes a really good point here, 725 00:31:16,068 --> 00:31:18,268 Speaker 2: like this roster right now is not knocking on the 726 00:31:18,308 --> 00:31:21,228 Speaker 2: door for a Super Bowl championship. But at the same time, 727 00:31:21,428 --> 00:31:23,548 Speaker 2: and it's all chronicled. You told us earlier you don't 728 00:31:23,548 --> 00:31:26,948 Speaker 2: feel great about this draft class big picture, but especially 729 00:31:26,988 --> 00:31:28,108 Speaker 2: at that quarterback spot. 730 00:31:28,348 --> 00:31:29,188 Speaker 5: What's the move. 731 00:31:29,068 --> 00:31:31,988 Speaker 4: Then, I mean he's competent, and I think that's what 732 00:31:32,028 --> 00:31:33,788 Speaker 4: you need right now. You need some level of stability. 733 00:31:33,828 --> 00:31:36,748 Speaker 4: I think putting a young guy in that situation is 734 00:31:36,788 --> 00:31:39,468 Speaker 4: not very good. Like Seth said, they're still in a 735 00:31:39,548 --> 00:31:42,988 Speaker 4: rebuild mode. I just don't love the way the roster 736 00:31:43,508 --> 00:31:44,428 Speaker 4: is shaped out right now. 737 00:31:44,428 --> 00:31:45,748 Speaker 3: They're not shaped like a winner. 738 00:31:46,388 --> 00:31:49,868 Speaker 4: You look at at Mike T and I mean, it's 739 00:31:49,948 --> 00:31:50,828 Speaker 4: just a bad situation. 740 00:31:51,028 --> 00:31:52,388 Speaker 3: It's just a bad situation. You know. 741 00:31:52,468 --> 00:31:54,268 Speaker 2: Free agency is an opportunity. And I know we made 742 00:31:54,308 --> 00:31:56,828 Speaker 2: reference to the drafts. You can get better free agency. 743 00:31:56,868 --> 00:31:58,348 Speaker 2: You can go and pay to get better. 744 00:31:58,748 --> 00:32:00,868 Speaker 5: I know, was it hold on? You didn't like the 745 00:32:00,948 --> 00:32:03,548 Speaker 5: Alec Burks or Alec Pearce? Was it? 746 00:32:04,468 --> 00:32:04,948 Speaker 3: I liked it? 747 00:32:05,388 --> 00:32:05,948 Speaker 2: I liked it. 748 00:32:05,988 --> 00:32:08,068 Speaker 4: I don't like the price, OK, I don't like I 749 00:32:08,068 --> 00:32:11,028 Speaker 4: don't like the highest contract in the NFL free agency 750 00:32:11,028 --> 00:32:11,828 Speaker 4: wide receiver history. 751 00:32:11,868 --> 00:32:12,428 Speaker 3: I don't like that. 752 00:32:12,508 --> 00:32:14,428 Speaker 2: Well, think about this though, because that Colt scene no 753 00:32:14,468 --> 00:32:16,828 Speaker 2: longer has Michael Pittman, because it's gonna being SI uniforms. 754 00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:19,148 Speaker 2: You got Pittman, You got DK down on that backfield, 755 00:32:19,148 --> 00:32:20,788 Speaker 2: who has had some good flashes there. 756 00:32:20,868 --> 00:32:21,948 Speaker 5: McCarthy knows this team. 757 00:32:22,708 --> 00:32:24,588 Speaker 2: Do we feel a little bit better about this roster 758 00:32:24,628 --> 00:32:25,708 Speaker 2: heading into too the season. 759 00:32:25,788 --> 00:32:28,148 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, and hopefully a guy like Roman Wilson also 760 00:32:28,228 --> 00:32:29,228 Speaker 4: takes a step forward. 761 00:32:29,228 --> 00:32:30,588 Speaker 3: But you know, you lose gain well. 762 00:32:30,628 --> 00:32:33,388 Speaker 4: I mean, there's there's you know, there's just questions, Uh, 763 00:32:33,788 --> 00:32:37,668 Speaker 4: Darnelle Washington, what is his role in this offense moving forward? 764 00:32:37,708 --> 00:32:40,948 Speaker 4: Don't love the offensive line. There's just there's too many questions, 765 00:32:40,988 --> 00:32:44,428 Speaker 4: too many holes. Right now, they're still playing paying Cam Hayward, 766 00:32:44,428 --> 00:32:45,428 Speaker 4: who's really old. 767 00:32:45,748 --> 00:32:47,308 Speaker 3: You know that they don't want to let go of 768 00:32:47,428 --> 00:32:47,908 Speaker 3: and they're. 769 00:32:47,708 --> 00:32:50,988 Speaker 4: Trying to, you know, get every every last piece of 770 00:32:51,108 --> 00:32:53,188 Speaker 4: lemon juice out of the lemon with him. I just 771 00:32:54,108 --> 00:32:57,148 Speaker 4: it's not a winning organization. It's not shaped out to 772 00:32:57,148 --> 00:32:59,668 Speaker 4: be a winning right now situation. 773 00:32:59,708 --> 00:33:02,268 Speaker 10: It feels like they're holding on right It feels holding 774 00:33:02,308 --> 00:33:05,748 Speaker 10: on even though McCarthy higher. I know, you know Steelers fans. 775 00:33:05,748 --> 00:33:07,588 Speaker 10: I have a few friends who are Steelers fans. They 776 00:33:07,588 --> 00:33:11,388 Speaker 10: are a really popular franchise and they were befuddled by 777 00:33:11,428 --> 00:33:15,188 Speaker 10: the Mike McCarthy hiring. You're expecting a young coach, somebody 778 00:33:15,188 --> 00:33:16,788 Speaker 10: that's going to be there for many, many years. You're 779 00:33:16,788 --> 00:33:20,308 Speaker 10: looking for turnover in this organization. After look I think 780 00:33:20,428 --> 00:33:22,828 Speaker 10: things with Rogers win is kind of as well as 781 00:33:22,828 --> 00:33:25,068 Speaker 10: you could have hoped with him in Pittsburgh. You know, 782 00:33:25,308 --> 00:33:27,068 Speaker 10: he took better than New York he took. Yeah, he's 783 00:33:27,068 --> 00:33:27,908 Speaker 10: better than New York. 784 00:33:28,148 --> 00:33:29,228 Speaker 7: He had. 785 00:33:29,428 --> 00:33:32,708 Speaker 10: He looked pretty good sometimes this season, but again, he 786 00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:36,908 Speaker 10: feels like a game manager at this point. And stability's fine, 787 00:33:36,988 --> 00:33:39,908 Speaker 10: but if you're a franchise that wants to win that division, 788 00:33:39,988 --> 00:33:41,988 Speaker 10: this just doesn't feel like these are the moves that 789 00:33:42,028 --> 00:33:44,148 Speaker 10: you're making, and when you're kind of holding up the 790 00:33:44,188 --> 00:33:48,068 Speaker 10: most important position on your team because. 791 00:33:47,828 --> 00:33:48,868 Speaker 7: Of Aaron Rodgers. 792 00:33:48,908 --> 00:33:51,068 Speaker 10: Again, I get it if we're talking Aaron Rodgers six 793 00:33:51,148 --> 00:33:53,148 Speaker 10: seven years ago and we're like, this is the dude 794 00:33:53,148 --> 00:33:55,668 Speaker 10: that could take us to the Promised Land. But I mean, 795 00:33:55,668 --> 00:33:57,428 Speaker 10: we've seen in the past few seasons he's just not 796 00:33:57,508 --> 00:33:58,228 Speaker 10: that guy anymore. 797 00:33:58,268 --> 00:34:00,348 Speaker 7: So what do we waste our time for that? Cut 798 00:34:00,388 --> 00:34:01,468 Speaker 7: our losses and let's move 799 00:34:01,468 --> 00:34:04,388 Speaker 2: On see what those moves are going to because once again, TikTok, 800 00:34:04,628 --> 00:34:06,188 Speaker 2: we are on Aaron Rodgers watch.