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Speaker 1: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. You got
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Speaker 2: The building, the legendary Ken and Thompson. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: welcome man, Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Good one of my brothers.
Speaker 5: You feeling and we're checking in man, Happy Black History month?
Speaker 3: History Month. How you feeling thrill? My brother? How you
Speaker 3: feeling like energy? Like great?
Speaker 5: My energy is great, man. Like you know, we're having
Speaker 5: another good season over there. It's forty nine, about to
Speaker 5: be the fiftieth. It's getting real over there, man, That
Speaker 5: fiftieth celebration. I think it's going to be big, was
Speaker 5: a lot of people.
Speaker 6: So think about Keenan, you wouldn't even know if he
Speaker 6: was doing bad. Keenan the meatia is always the same.
Speaker 4: Tourist, energy man. Let me take my glasses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 7: I would go to ask, you know, when you see
Speaker 7: so many things pop up on social on this.
Speaker 4: World is it?
Speaker 2: I guess it's good for you because you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is it.
Speaker 5: This is yeah, absolutely, I mean yeah, I mean characters
Speaker 5: in the world or events in the world definitely help,
Speaker 5: you know, kind of trigger ideas and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: especially the crazier the better, or anybody that sounds funny
Speaker 5: the better. But at the same time, you know, it's
Speaker 5: hard on comedy these days. You know, you gotta like
Speaker 5: really be smart about your approach, especially you know, depending
Speaker 5: on the topic and stuff like that. You know, I
Speaker 5: don't really go out there to offend people necessarily, but
Speaker 5: sometimes it happens, and you know you gotta like learn
Speaker 5: from it, hopefully and just move on, you know, knowing
Speaker 5: that you know your intentions were good in the first place.
Speaker 5: Kind of thing, like we're just trying to heal basically,
Speaker 5: that's what That's what comedy's supposed to be doing.
Speaker 7: Is there anything that you won't touch or that y'all
Speaker 7: come together and be like this would be funny, but
Speaker 7: not right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean especially you know, we on network TV,
Speaker 5: so it's not like we can just you know, say
Speaker 5: and do whatever. But at the same time, you know,
Speaker 5: some topics it might be too early to be trying
Speaker 5: to you know, find a laugh on kind of thing.
Speaker 5: And you know, some certain topics ain't nothing funny about it.
Speaker 6: So like too soon, like Donna Rowlins like to say,
Speaker 6: too soon. You think there are some too soon topics.
Speaker 5: You know, there's definitely I mean, Gilb but Godfrey killed
Speaker 5: his career with that, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 5: I don't remember when we tweeted something about like nine
Speaker 5: to eleven or something, and it was just like, you know,
Speaker 5: there's no reason to like try to be the first
Speaker 5: one with a joke on that topic necessarily, and it'll
Speaker 5: probably be too soon for two hundred years kind of thing, you.
Speaker 4: Know, just because it was such a large tragedy.
Speaker 3: Bringing up people old tweets. Can it don't do peace?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But like that was that,
Speaker 4: But that's cool. It was.
Speaker 5: It was not anymore. So yeah, you gotta be just
Speaker 5: gotta be smart about it.
Speaker 6: And you know, you got a new book out. When
Speaker 6: I was your age, I should have brought the book.
Speaker 3: I wanted to hear us to have it propped up.
Speaker 6: I'm slipping when I was your age, Life lessons, funny
Speaker 6: stories and questionable parenting advice from a professional clown. First
Speaker 6: of all, what made you want to write a book?
Speaker 6: Because you always have been a very private person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the longest title ever.
Speaker 5: I just felt it was time, you know, like a
Speaker 5: lot of people, I guess in my position, a lot
Speaker 5: of my heroes have written.
Speaker 4: Books, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You got seven two yea working on third, so uh yeah,
Speaker 5: and people approached me. I was just trying to, you know,
Speaker 5: make sure I had enough to talk about it for
Speaker 5: like people that actually read books, you know. And luckily
Speaker 5: I worked with a great collaborator, DIBs Bear shout Out,
Speaker 5: you know, and yeah, we put together a pretty good book.
Speaker 5: From what I'm hearing, like the people that have read
Speaker 5: it seem to enjoy it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It's not like three hundred pages or nothing, you know,
Speaker 5: which was kind of strange. I'm like, damn, that's my
Speaker 5: life story, so you know, but it has definitely been,
Speaker 5: you know, a really cool thing to share with the
Speaker 5: world and you know, tell my story to my parents'
Speaker 5: story and you know, siblings, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: and like let people, you know, kind of know the
Speaker 5: real me, the origin story kind of thing that I
Speaker 5: don't necessarily get to tell on you know, talk shows
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, because you usually want to just
Speaker 5: talk about the current thing you're there to promote or whatever.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was a cool experience.
Speaker 3: Explain the long ass title because it's a lot there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's just like I guess I've been
Speaker 5: doing it for so long that I had, you know,
Speaker 5: a lot to kind of display, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I had to kind of explain what my position
Speaker 5: is in this world so far in a capturing kind
Speaker 5: of title and kind of tell people like what the
Speaker 5: bo kids so they want to grab it and read it,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And like that's probably why
Speaker 5: the title is it's so lengthy, but you know, it's
Speaker 5: also some comedy there, because yeah, it is so long
Speaker 5: and yeah, the good word ise of like being a
Speaker 5: professional clown and stuff like that. You know, like I
Speaker 5: take that really seriously, like I'm an actor, you know,
Speaker 5: so like when I'm clowning around, it's usually for higher
Speaker 5: kind of thing, you know, as you can see, like
Speaker 5: my demeanor is pretty pretty level, you say, like I
Speaker 5: don't really even be getting stressed out on my demeanor
Speaker 5: doesn't change much.
Speaker 4: But yeah, big tourist energy over here, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And like, but you don't seem hard headed though most
Speaker 6: touruses I know hard headed.
Speaker 5: I get stubborn about when I think I'm right, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, But like, no, I'm very good
Speaker 5: with the flow kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Do your kids take you serious?
Speaker 7: Or they always see daddy as the clown and the
Speaker 7: joke and the laster.
Speaker 5: I'm the clown and I'm definitely in their way, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like I'm in their way for
Speaker 5: having fun or whatever they want to do. Like you know,
Speaker 5: when they're around their friends, they don't want, you know,
Speaker 5: old fuddy daddies around them, you know, so they definitely
Speaker 5: think they're funnier than me, and they probably are. Like
Speaker 5: they definitely like make me laugh. But that's that dynamic.
Speaker 5: You know, You're you could be you know, Michael Jordan's
Speaker 5: son and think that your dad just only plays basketball
Speaker 5: as opposed to being Michael Jordan.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, why do you call your advice, your
Speaker 6: parenting advice questionable?
Speaker 3: I was that your parents advice was questionable, which one
Speaker 3: of the.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's probably mine, you know, just you know,
Speaker 5: coming from a place where like I don't know everything
Speaker 5: right away, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm just
Speaker 5: figuring it out kind of on the fly as the girls.
Speaker 6: Basically, Yeah, but we all are though, Like being a
Speaker 6: parent is on the job training. Like there's no manual
Speaker 6: for parenting. So I don't even beat myself up when
Speaker 6: I don't get it right. Actually, I'll apologize to my
Speaker 6: kids and try to do try to do better next time, exactly.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean when you when you give advice
Speaker 5: to people, it's not like I want to be like,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm the official voice.
Speaker 4: On parenting kind of thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So you should be able to question like what I'm
Speaker 5: offering kind of to the world if it doesn't work.
Speaker 5: For you and your household kind of thing, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like I'm not trying to.
Speaker 4: Like tell everybody exactly what to do with their kids.
Speaker 2: Basically, would you want your kids to get in this industry?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 5: I mean if they take it seriously, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, Like I got drama faces tatted on my back,
Speaker 5: you know, so I take it very seriously. And growing up,
Speaker 5: it was you know, there wasn't no automatic you know,
Speaker 5: there wasn't as many platforms as there are now so many, like,
Speaker 5: you know, different kind of ways to get into the business.
Speaker 4: It was very specific. You audition, they.
Speaker 5: Tell you yes or no, you know, and coming from Atlanta,
Speaker 5: the auditions were less and less. It was mostly commercials
Speaker 5: or theater stuff like that, which I'm grateful for because
Speaker 5: like my theater training is like, you know, that's everything,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like that taught me everything
Speaker 5: about being an actor and being around other actors that
Speaker 5: have been in the business a long time, you know,
Speaker 5: done a movie here and there, some Spike Lee joints
Speaker 5: or whatever. But when you're in between the times, that's
Speaker 5: when it's like your real dedication, you know, through because
Speaker 5: being a starving artist is no joke, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, And it's a reality for I would say
Speaker 5: more than the majority of people you know in the business,
Speaker 5: Like like a lot of people are like living like
Speaker 5: check to check, especially if you don't know how to
Speaker 5: subsidize with another job.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, you.
Speaker 6: Got a chapter title called I'm Glad I went broke?
Speaker 6: When did that happen? You've been You've been working since
Speaker 6: at least nine and.
Speaker 5: Foul, yo, Yeah, like I've been blessed to continue working.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I had a bad accountant and it came
Speaker 5: to the light around ninety nine, like around two thousand,
Speaker 5: which was really bad timing because that's right when I
Speaker 5: left my consistent gig, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So then I went into being an adult actor for hire,
Speaker 5: and that is very.
Speaker 4: Hit and miss.
Speaker 5: So there was, you know, some good jobs like I
Speaker 5: did Felicity that was cool, And I got to meet
Speaker 5: jj Abrams when he was young, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: And that's like a priceless kind of a friendship, I
Speaker 5: would say, just because he's grown to be, you know,
Speaker 5: such a major force in the industry.
Speaker 4: But it was like six months until love Don't Cost
Speaker 4: a thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I was happy to get love don't cause things. My
Speaker 5: brother Nick's movie, Yeah, we had in my house, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah at your house.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was ridding this house that had a bunch
Speaker 5: of space or whatever. But you know, we was young,
Speaker 5: so it was like, yeah, move all the furniture, the silence,
Speaker 5: just you know, throw a party and like invite everybody
Speaker 5: kind of thing back in those days.
Speaker 4: So that was fun.
Speaker 5: But it was still broke, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: like just money enough for the rent kind of thing.
Speaker 5: And yeah that you know, the account was was dirty,
Speaker 5: and I ended up not letting that be the end
Speaker 5: all be all of what my life is going to be.
Speaker 4: So I just you know, moved back to Calamn and continue.
Speaker 3: How much did they account and get you for.
Speaker 4: A million and a half? Damn something like that.
Speaker 5: I mean that was you know, my contractual like deal
Speaker 5: at the time or whatever. But for like overall, Nick, yeah,
Speaker 5: for a few years or whatever, and then yeah, I
Speaker 5: never saw none of it.
Speaker 3: So you that ain't funny. You walked away from you
Speaker 3: over there about that point, So you walked.
Speaker 6: Away from Nickelodeon the overall deal, I was just up,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You didn't feel like, you know, we wanted to continue
Speaker 5: like Kenannickhill to college, like we couldn't figure it out basically,
Speaker 5: and we were just like, I think we should just
Speaker 5: go figure out what it looks like for us to.
Speaker 4: Be adult performers for the world.
Speaker 5: And it was just like reproving grounds as almost like
Speaker 5: it was almost like starting over, you know, because like
Speaker 5: everybody wanted to treat us like kids or keep us
Speaker 5: in a category or whatever, and we just had to
Speaker 5: like learn how to prove ourselves. And for me, you know,
Speaker 5: SNL was that the biggest bridge, you know, as far
Speaker 5: as like adults taking me seriously as an adult because
Speaker 5: we were already grown, you know, we was in our twenties,
Speaker 5: you know, so we didn't want to be like thirty
Speaker 5: years old still trying to play a kid on Nickelodeon.
Speaker 5: And yeah, the time end of that was just it
Speaker 5: was just crazy. So it was a couple of years
Speaker 5: of like, man, I don't know about this whole like,
Speaker 5: you know, one job here, one job there, like every
Speaker 5: few months kind of thing, because the bills come, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, every month, no matter what and yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, thank god, life goes in the cycle. So
Speaker 5: when I was feeling down, I would, you know, get
Speaker 5: a gig, and that would like, you know, start trending upward,
Speaker 5: and then you know, trending further up from loved on
Speaker 5: cost Thin to the barber shop too, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. And then Barbershop too, left there and like
Speaker 5: went to audition from enc and out, like do.
Speaker 2: You remember that when you auditioned and they called you
Speaker 2: back and said you got the part?
Speaker 4: Do you remember that one?
Speaker 5: Because it was a long process, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: came to New York straight from Chicago from shooting barber Shop,
Speaker 5: like feeling great or whatever, and then seeing what you
Speaker 5: up against and it was every black comic you could
Speaker 5: even possibly think of. Right, So I had to do
Speaker 5: stand up at the stand Up New York. I had
Speaker 5: never done I stand up before. It was a nightmare.
Speaker 5: And then I saw Call and I hadn't seen him
Speaker 5: in a while, you know what I'm saying, Like at
Speaker 5: the audition and that was awkward, but it was like,
Speaker 5: you know, good luck, good luck or whatever. And then
Speaker 5: I did three minutes of something terrible because I wasn't
Speaker 5: a stand up comic. I didn't know how to address
Speaker 5: the crowd at all. I think I just started with.
Speaker 2: That was part of the audition.
Speaker 3: You had to do stand up. Yeah, you walked up
Speaker 3: there was like HI.
Speaker 4: Said Hi.
Speaker 5: I think I just went right into like ol shopping
Speaker 5: or something like talking to Arnold Schwazennigga, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, just like like a kid in his own room,
Speaker 5: basically like playing in the mirror kind of thing. And yeah,
Speaker 5: it didn't go well, but they saw something and I
Speaker 5: got a call back that was in the studio that
Speaker 5: felt more comfortable.
Speaker 4: I was used to that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So I did that same kind of stick with a
Speaker 5: couple more minutes added on or whatever. And then I
Speaker 5: went home for a week and didn't hear nothing, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And that was just like torture.
Speaker 5: Thought it was rat I thought it was over. I
Speaker 5: thought I ruining. And you know, SNL was one of
Speaker 5: those jobs. If you don't get it, you live with that,
Speaker 5: you know, kind of for the rest of your life,
Speaker 5: or if things go left when you do get it,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like that's not an experience
Speaker 5: you really just forget or like be like, oh that's
Speaker 5: in the past.
Speaker 4: I could just move on like it stays with you, you know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that week was torturing. And then they called.
Speaker 5: They were like, all right, we want you to try
Speaker 5: one more time at the Live Factory.
Speaker 4: I was like, more stand up, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean, Why didn't you just tell him I'm
Speaker 3: not a stand up.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to rock the boat, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, trying to.
Speaker 2: Get a job stand up.
Speaker 6: Stand up is the most difficult thing I feel like
Speaker 6: anybody can do in comedy.
Speaker 4: It really is.
Speaker 5: And I also wasn't really aware of the second city
Speaker 5: and groundings of it all because I'm at an improper
Speaker 5: I just like started working, you know, from like age twelve,
Speaker 5: you know, from doing commercials to theater to you know,
Speaker 5: movies or whatever. So I didn't really have a chance
Speaker 5: to like go to school for performing necessarily, like that
Speaker 5: was my school. So yeah, more stand up and I
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't want to rock the boat. And
Speaker 5: it was a terrible night for me because the other
Speaker 5: four people were actually stand ups, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: And they were killed JB. Smooth for Ness Mitchell, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. D Ray It was you know,
Speaker 5: it was a lineup and they was destroying.
Speaker 4: And then I went up there and did my little
Speaker 4: bullshit and like.
Speaker 2: What were you were you first? Were you fourth?
Speaker 4: For your second? I was last?
Speaker 3: You went after d ray JB and Mitchell Yes.
Speaker 4: Christ yeah, and Kyle Grooms and like Kyle Room.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Kyle, but I know Kyle was in
Speaker 5: New York, but I think he was in LA too,
Speaker 5: But I know I went last after a bunch of
Speaker 5: brilliant for Front for Comics, and I was so nervous. Man,
Speaker 5: I was drinking out the sink because that was the
Speaker 5: bathroom and like the bar was over there, so I
Speaker 5: didn't want to like go back and forth, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, like interrupt or anything like that.
Speaker 3: So you really really wanted to kill it, but you
Speaker 3: couldn't get you.
Speaker 5: Know, but I was so nervous, Like I was just like, man,
Speaker 5: I can't quench my throomb, drinking.
Speaker 4: Water, drinking water, New York warter back. Then I'm like.
Speaker 5: Killing it up with the sink water and like still
Speaker 5: and I was just like crazy nervous.
Speaker 4: But I didn't get booed.
Speaker 5: So that was, you know, definitely not a dagger, because
Speaker 5: if I would have got booed. I don't even know
Speaker 5: if I would have wanted the job, because would have
Speaker 5: felt like I didn't deserve it. But then after that,
Speaker 5: they called the next day, and then I think they
Speaker 5: called on a Saturday and I was in New York
Speaker 5: on Monday.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Wow, And now you're the longest run of cast member.
Speaker 6: Want I want to go back to this one point
Speaker 6: five million?
Speaker 3: How does the how do you lose one point five million?
Speaker 6: Do? Because I know you said it, but I know
Speaker 6: people are listening, like, how does that happen?
Speaker 5: We gave that dude power of attorney when we shouldn't have.
Speaker 4: You know, kids.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a kid, and my mom was trying
Speaker 5: to protect me, you know what I mean. And he
Speaker 5: had helped her out of her like tax situations, like
Speaker 5: her and my dad's like tax situations. So she thought
Speaker 5: she could trust him, but she could trust him with
Speaker 5: like day thirty to fifty grand issues kind of shit.
Speaker 5: But like when it's like a million dollars on the table,
Speaker 5: you never know what people going to turn into. And
Speaker 5: apparently he turned into a demon. And you know, I'm
Speaker 5: sure his commerce come back to him. But if it
Speaker 5: wasn't for that. I don't know, if you know, my
Speaker 5: track would be the same, because I was ready to settle.
Speaker 4: Into Atlanta, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like I was ready to just be like, no, I'm
Speaker 5: good and like, you know, it's three out a half
Speaker 5: hours to LA so if they need me, they can
Speaker 5: call me kind of thing. But I don't think I
Speaker 5: would have been as hungry or you know, as you know,
Speaker 5: dedicated necessarily, like I was dedicated to Atlanta, Like Atlanta was,
Speaker 5: you know, my everything basically, so I was very comfortable
Speaker 5: there and very willing to just be like around the
Speaker 5: corner from my mama and be happy.
Speaker 3: You couldn't suit the accountant or nothing.
Speaker 5: That I did, and I won, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But he can't pay you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 5: it's just paperwork.
Speaker 2: Basically, you want to spend more money to sue them
Speaker 2: and not get no money.
Speaker 5: Back one, you know. And I sued him for years
Speaker 5: and ended up winning. But I sued him because the
Speaker 5: IRS came after me, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 5: they were like, you haven't paid your taxes all the time.
Speaker 4: I'm like, well that's what he was supposed.
Speaker 5: To be doing, and he went ran, don't y'all see
Speaker 5: like I ain't got the money, like you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So, but and Uncle Sam don't care.
Speaker 4: They don't care at all.
Speaker 5: They want their money, you know. So I got my
Speaker 5: settlement and it's on that person now. But as far
Speaker 5: as like me getting that money back, and I knew
Speaker 5: it as soon as it happened, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: I'm like, I ain't never.
Speaker 4: Gonna see that money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I might as well just get back and start
Speaker 5: from scratch and just you know, forget about it. If
Speaker 5: it comes back, great, but you know it has yet too.
Speaker 5: But I've been blessed in so many other ways. Like
Speaker 5: I take those life lessons and just learn from them.
Speaker 6: I'm so sorry for everybody in that situation because they
Speaker 6: don't teach us financial literacy. When when when the communities
Speaker 6: we come from, but then we get people that we
Speaker 6: think are supposed to have our best interest in that way,
Speaker 6: and they take advantage it. Just like, how can you
Speaker 6: ever trust my man a black man?
Speaker 5: God damn, an elder black man?
Speaker 3: How can you trust somebody ever again?
Speaker 5: Because like you want to try to keep hope, you know,
Speaker 5: you want to try to keep hope on humanity, you
Speaker 5: know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, Jackson, just you try to keep keep alive, you know.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't know, man, Like I've never been
Speaker 5: one to be like, oh he's a piece of shit,
Speaker 5: So this next person might be you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Like everybody has a chance to kind of prove themselves
Speaker 5: to be what they are.
Speaker 7: Those guys, when did you get comfortable on Saturday Night Live?
Speaker 7: Because you had to be nervous, you know when you
Speaker 7: first starting off, you with all these people that's been
Speaker 7: there before, and when did you get comfortable?
Speaker 5: It took a while because you have a writer's burden
Speaker 5: on that, Sonela, and I didn't come from that, you know.
Speaker 5: I just came from being given scripts and then I
Speaker 5: do what I do and like if we added something,
Speaker 5: then they'll put it in or whatever. But I was
Speaker 5: never like part of that process. So it was like
Speaker 5: a learning thing as I went along. And I don't
Speaker 5: think I was like comfortable, comfortable until I got my
Speaker 5: first personal idea on the show and that was like
Speaker 5: season five.
Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, Scared Straight. Shout out to Scared Straight.
Speaker 3: Why that role in particular?
Speaker 4: What Scared Straight?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like, why did that make you the most comfortable.
Speaker 5: Well that was just the first one that I got on,
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, I finally like made my.
Speaker 4: Sense of humor makes sense in this place. Godcha, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So yeah, Like I just felt like up until that point,
Speaker 5: my ideas were going all over the place. I didn't
Speaker 5: really know how to really collab with writers, or I
Speaker 5: would collab off of their ideas as opposed to something
Speaker 5: personal to me, you know what I mean. And then
Speaker 5: like I started to like learn how to bring forward
Speaker 5: the black zeitgeist, you know what I'm saying, and like
Speaker 5: make that appealing.
Speaker 6: That's gonna go on after fifty. I remember when I
Speaker 6: interviewed you on my late night show, you said you
Speaker 6: think you should end it?
Speaker 5: That I mean, I thought it would be a good
Speaker 5: number to stop at it if that was the case,
Speaker 5: But I don't think it is. I think they gonna
Speaker 5: keep it running, you know what I'm saying, Like, it
Speaker 5: doesn't make a difference if it winds up stopping at
Speaker 5: seventy two, it doesn't really matter. But fifty it just
Speaker 5: felt like such a good package, just like, you know,
Speaker 5: here's fifty years of SNL time Warner. You know what
Speaker 5: I mean, so that around o'clock or whatever, DVDs, this, that,
Speaker 5: and the other. It's just a nice would number, Like
Speaker 5: if they get to a hundred, great, if they get
Speaker 5: to two hundred, you know what I mean, incredible, It
Speaker 5: doesn't really matter. But I've never seen a TV show
Speaker 5: outside of like a game show or soap opera go
Speaker 5: past thirty years, you know, twenty, Like that's just crazy.
Speaker 5: So I didn't really know how long it was gonna
Speaker 5: take it then if dude was going to retire, you
Speaker 5: know after that year.
Speaker 3: Lord Michael, Yeah, it might.
Speaker 5: Be you know, it might be smart to pose it
Speaker 5: or something like that. But at the same time, Tina
Speaker 5: can do it. I can do it, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Steve Higgins, There's a lot of people that can keep
Speaker 5: it going. It's just will it have the same support,
Speaker 5: you know, like budget wise kind of thing, Like if
Speaker 5: you slash the budget, it's a completely different show. And
Speaker 5: then that's not fair to whoever's in that chair. So
Speaker 5: it's up to them, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 5: from what I'm hearing, I think it's probably gonna continue.
Speaker 7: Did you ever feel like you didn't have support of
Speaker 7: the culture of the community you know, because starting off
Speaker 7: as a new culture, any black comedian that's on Saturday
Speaker 7: Night Live, they will say, oh, he's the talking black
Speaker 7: or he's not that funny. It's like the hate comes first.
Speaker 4: Did you ever feel it?
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, and anytime I do something that's you know,
Speaker 5: pushing boundaries or anything like that, there's a lot of pushback,
Speaker 5: you know. So I definitely felt like the majority of
Speaker 5: black people weren't like, yo, Saturday Night Live is my show,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It just felt like, oh,
Speaker 5: you on that white show, you know what I mean
Speaker 5: when people talk to you about But you know, I
Speaker 5: took that and was like, all right, well that's how
Speaker 5: y'all feel. You must not really know, you know, kind
Speaker 5: of the history of the show and who's really come
Speaker 5: out of there, you know what I'm saying. And it's
Speaker 5: just as much our show as anybody else's kind of thing,
Speaker 5: because you know, we have, you know, the biggest start
Speaker 5: probably in movie history coming out there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, I've never heard people say that
Speaker 6: there's token blacks on that SNEL.
Speaker 3: It just was always there wasn't enough of enough black.
Speaker 4: It was you know, one at a timing for a while.
Speaker 6: You know, because the black people they have are black. Yeah,
Speaker 6: Eddie didn't try not to be black. Tracy Mugan didn't
Speaker 6: try not to be black, like they went for it.
Speaker 4: They I don't think Tracy can help himselfing, you know.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that was part of the conversation that I
Speaker 5: was talking about when it was time to get more
Speaker 5: black women in the show.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: It's just like my quote that was heavily misquoted or
Speaker 5: whatever was just the fact that, you know, the pool
Speaker 5: to choose from isn't large basically as far as the
Speaker 5: people that ready to do that show. Like, like I
Speaker 5: personally didn't know about the ground.
Speaker 4: As a second city, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So let alone you know, a whole bunch of us
Speaker 5: knowing about it, and yeah, it's just, you know, it's
Speaker 5: slim pickings sometimes. So it is kind of one at
Speaker 5: a time as far as like discovering the next person
Speaker 5: that is ready, you know, because a lot of us
Speaker 5: might have other interests athletics, you know, music, business and
Speaker 5: stuff like that that might seem cooler to the culture
Speaker 5: and stuff. So you know, when it is time to
Speaker 5: like look for the next you know, they might be
Speaker 5: you know, they might be slim choices kind of thing,
Speaker 5: but I think that's expanding. And you know, the more we,
Speaker 5: you know, continue to display the fact that we can
Speaker 5: do it and that you know, you should open up
Speaker 5: the doors and look a little harder.
Speaker 4: If that's the case, you know, you find your.
Speaker 5: Leslie Joneses and your ego Wodhams, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: and you shild Jamadas and and you know, you give people,
Speaker 5: you know, an opportunity to show you that we can
Speaker 5: do this as well kind of thing. And you know,
Speaker 5: I think that's kind of like what my words should
Speaker 5: have been in that in that quote, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I don't even remember the quote.
Speaker 5: The quote that they say I said was that, you know,
Speaker 5: black women ain't funny, But that's not what I said.
Speaker 6: It was like, that's better though, that's a good one.
Speaker 5: The person writing the story black women Ain't funny comes
Speaker 5: says black women ain't funny. You know, that's basically how
Speaker 5: they blasted me, like for a while, and you know,
Speaker 5: Leslie was mad, like before she met me, she was like,
Speaker 5: let that motherfucker come over here and I'll burn his
Speaker 5: ass up.
Speaker 4: First of all, I didn't say that.
Speaker 5: And when we first met, you know, that was clarified
Speaker 5: in two seconds, because you know, when you and me,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not outside the culture like that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I don't disrespect my black women at all, you know,
Speaker 5: like because like how would my mother look at me?
Speaker 4: How would my sister look at me?
Speaker 5: My cousins, this, that, and my that. I'm not an idiot,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And I'm not detached from
Speaker 5: the world either like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I would never say something so egregious. But my
Speaker 5: point was, yeah, man, like this, it's I'm sure there's small,
Speaker 5: low numbers, you know, in those improv houses wherever they
Speaker 5: might be. So if I'm wrong, let me be wrong.
Speaker 5: But I don't think I am because I've been in
Speaker 5: the business a long time and I go to shows
Speaker 5: a lot, you know what I'm saying, And I be looking,
Speaker 5: you know, and I look back on history, like when
Speaker 5: you watch Chris Farley in his Second City Days or whatever,
Speaker 5: and you look at the background and his performance it
Speaker 5: was tim medals. It wasn't like it was tim medals,
Speaker 5: and A's Kevin and there's Joe and there's this that,
Speaker 5: and they are all black and together and only Tim
Speaker 5: got the shot.
Speaker 4: It was just Tim metals there. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: That was it.
Speaker 6: The problem with headlines is there's no nuance to headlines
Speaker 6: because headlines can't be nuanced. Like if you tried the
Speaker 6: nuanced the headline, it looked like the title of your book.
Speaker 3: So it has to be something quick, you know what.
Speaker 4: It has to be sharp.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So like I get it, and it you know,
Speaker 5: they did their job throwing me under the bus.
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, That bus driven by
Speaker 3: black woman is no joke, you know.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, you know, you got to
Speaker 5: look towards the positive, and the positive is it did
Speaker 5: open the doors for some people, you know, even if
Speaker 5: it was you know, me having to be the scapegold
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 4: So I can't be mad at it. How much longer
Speaker 4: than I can be? But this guy got a plan?
Speaker 3: How much longer does Keenan want to do? Us?
Speaker 5: And L I mean, I don't know that that question
Speaker 5: continues to vary, you know, like it all kind of
Speaker 5: starts depending on like what the kids want to do
Speaker 5: and where the kids want to be, Like how much
Speaker 5: more time can I spend with them? If possible? And
Speaker 5: also like are people getting tired of my moves? You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like are people getting tired of
Speaker 5: seeing me on the show all the time?
Speaker 4: And stuff like that.
Speaker 5: So it also is a long schedule and takes up
Speaker 5: most of the year kind of things. So you know,
Speaker 5: it might be time for like to make room for
Speaker 5: other opportunities at the same time, but I want to
Speaker 5: see that fiftieth at least.
Speaker 6: It is scary for you when you think about, all right,
Speaker 6: last time I walked away from a steady gig.
Speaker 5: Yeah, damn not in no hurry to like get back
Speaker 5: to that. Yeah, I've been there, done that, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean.
Speaker 2: You know that's a guarantee check.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's a guaranteed way of life, which is
Speaker 5: rare for an actor, you know, like a lot of
Speaker 5: actors is at the airport, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: and some casters going to New Zealand for ten years,
Speaker 5: you know, Like I can't really afford to do that
Speaker 5: with you know, small children, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Like I love them, So.
Speaker 1: The fifty if you might walk away, see that, See
Speaker 1: how trying to put you on the head.
Speaker 4: It could be, it couldn't. It all depends. It all
Speaker 4: depends on, you know, how that season goes as well.
Speaker 5: You know what i mean, because like right now, we
Speaker 5: only have way through forty nine and that's a lot
Speaker 5: of ideas and a lot of sketches. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of chances to do something like brilliant and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: But it's also a lot of chances to kind of like,
Speaker 5: you know, show people that I've been there a long time,
Speaker 5: which is like it's not necessarily great when you're trying
Speaker 5: to create things fresh and new and you want to
Speaker 5: show to feel fresh and new, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So I've been you know, kind of happy to be
Speaker 5: in the background or see like Devin get a sketch
Speaker 5: on finally, you know what i mean, like for himself
Speaker 5: kind of thing like he did, you know on Saturday.
Speaker 5: You know, like I was like very happy for him
Speaker 5: for that, like cause other things have been like collaborative
Speaker 5: or he'll have a part here and there, but a
Speaker 5: whole sketch to himself. I think that might have been
Speaker 5: his first one on Saturday, and that's a that's a
Speaker 5: big step, you know what I'm saying, and that's how
Speaker 5: the show continues to move on through history. So if
Speaker 5: I need to move to the side to allow for
Speaker 5: those things to happen and just like come in at
Speaker 5: the end of the schedule or whatever and help or whatever.
Speaker 4: I'm good doing that.
Speaker 5: Like I've had my moments where you know, I put
Speaker 5: up an idea and like people are singing it as
Speaker 5: they decorate their Christmas tree, Like what's up with that?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5: And that's that's something that like went hyper viral and
Speaker 5: like I hear about it to this day. I did
Speaker 5: that for the first time fourteen years ago, so I'm
Speaker 5: crazy like that maybe seventeen years or what well season?
Speaker 4: What season man twenty one?
Speaker 5: Yeah, fourteen years ago, so you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Like that's a long time, bro, And we do twenty
Speaker 5: shows a season. That's a lot of sketches and a
Speaker 5: lot of different characters and stuff like that. So I mean,
Speaker 5: long story short, if i feel like I'm still creating
Speaker 5: and it's not a headache for people, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, then yeah.
Speaker 4: I'll keep it going.
Speaker 3: Financially, you gotta be good.
Speaker 6: It's not like you're gonna be in line at the
Speaker 6: food bank that you're in an ambassador.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, yeah, man, you shout out to the food bank.
Speaker 5: They're doing really really great things over there.
Speaker 3: We're ambassadors there, we are, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We're ambassadors for you know, leaving nobody behind, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And like I love that. Financial wise, yeah,
Speaker 5: we're doing all right, and we're going to continue to
Speaker 5: do so. But at any given moment, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. And also, like you know, there's a lot
Speaker 5: of things going on in the world, so if anything happens,
Speaker 5: like you know, worldly, then you know, you don't have
Speaker 5: no control of it. Don't matter what we got in
Speaker 5: the bank kind of thing. So try to celebrate the
Speaker 5: day man, as it goes.
Speaker 7: I was going to ask, you know, when you watch
Speaker 7: things that happen, do you have an opinion or as in,
Speaker 7: do you care?
Speaker 4: Or is it?
Speaker 7: The first thing is sketch? Right, So Shannon sharp cat
Speaker 7: Williams right, he's going crazy. Are you thinking, oh, this
Speaker 7: is a sketch and this is I'm gonna break it down?
Speaker 7: Or are you thinking, damn, why is he going at
Speaker 7: so many people?
Speaker 5: Well, some things are obviously going to be a sketch,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Like, as soon as I
Speaker 5: saw it, I'm like, oh yeah, like this is definitely
Speaker 5: going to be a sketch only because like Cat Williams
Speaker 5: is a good impression, you know what I mean, Shanna
Speaker 5: Sharp is a good impression, and this is definitely a
Speaker 5: moment that everybody has seen, right, so it's gonna be like,
Speaker 5: you know, whoever's first to get the sketch up. Basically
Speaker 5: at that point, there's a lot of nighttime shows that
Speaker 5: could have done it, you know what I mean, or whatever,
Speaker 5: But when we do it, it's on a different level
Speaker 5: because like our departments are crazy, like our whig department,
Speaker 5: our wardrobe, you know what I mean, our sets.
Speaker 4: Like the audio, the whole team, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like the whole team is like on super duper
Speaker 5: point because they've been doing it for forever and they
Speaker 5: take it serious.
Speaker 4: They love it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's a family, like a generational kind of family that
Speaker 5: worked there. So yeah, when I saw that, I was like,
Speaker 5: we're doing this for sure. I wish we weren't on
Speaker 5: break and everybody was texting like I know y'all about
Speaker 5: to do this. This weekend. I'm like, man, we all
Speaker 5: for another week. You can have bro and everyone, Oh
Speaker 5: my god, we gotta wait. But shout out the eggo man,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? She get it, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: they destroyed it, and I was I was eating it
Speaker 5: up because I was it was entertaining, like the first
Speaker 5: time I watched it and I was like, oh snap,
Speaker 5: you know he said spilling everything, you know, and I
Speaker 5: was enjoying it that way. And then of course, you know,
Speaker 5: the elder started chiming in, and like when Dave chimed in,
Speaker 5: like why you're painting us with such a you know,
Speaker 5: why you're painting dirty, ugly pictures of us or whatever,
Speaker 5: It's like, all right, I gotta calm down, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like take that into mind, the fact
Speaker 5: that you know it the bigger pictures. We are supposed
Speaker 5: to be pushing uphill together kind of thing. And yeah,
Speaker 5: it was like all right, well, you know, maybe we
Speaker 5: shouldn't be, you know, lashing out or throwing each other
Speaker 5: under the bus or whatever. But you know, at first,
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I love this.
Speaker 6: You know, at a comedian, is that something you would
Speaker 6: want to get mentioned in? Would you want cat to
Speaker 6: say your name.
Speaker 5: Nah, I don't want to be in No, I don't
Speaker 5: want to be and nobody driving at all, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Especially like you know, the topics that
Speaker 5: they were discussing. I'm like, I could be on the
Speaker 5: wrong side of this at any given moment if they
Speaker 5: want to mention me. But my perspective on that, in
Speaker 5: my mind doesn't have me on the wrong side of it.
Speaker 4: But you know, people have their opinion.
Speaker 3: You might be a plant to somebody.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, how you go from good Burger toes and
Speaker 6: L and be there for twenty years?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like that's that's his opinion on that,
Speaker 5: and it's dismissive unfortunately of you know, like Kevin's been
Speaker 5: showing up to work all this time, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. It's not like even if he was like
Speaker 5: planning and being like, all right, here's a movie for you,
Speaker 5: he had to still do that movie.
Speaker 4: He had to show up to this, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, And.
Speaker 3: Like, don't even if he was planning.
Speaker 5: Like he wasn't planning, if he was just given an opportunity,
Speaker 5: that doesn't come as easy to others say it like that.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, he still had to take
Speaker 5: it and run with it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: and do all the stand up and do all the
Speaker 5: other TV show movies and stand the other and like
Speaker 5: continue his track of professionalists. So like industry plants, unfortunately
Speaker 5: dismisses the work ethic.
Speaker 4: Of an individual, you know. And I think that's a nepotism.
Speaker 5: Like you know, a lot of people want to do
Speaker 5: for their children in any kind of environment, whether it's
Speaker 5: Hollywood or corporate America.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But if the child becomes successful, it's not just because
Speaker 5: the dad padded them along the entire time, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. Usually they have a work ethic and
Speaker 5: they want to actually go out there and make those
Speaker 5: connections and make people see them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So try not to dismiss the individual just because they
Speaker 5: have an opportunity that you might not have had.
Speaker 4: Kind of thing.
Speaker 6: And I want to shout out to two black men
Speaker 6: who first put Kevin in movies, Damon Dash and Russ Parr.
Speaker 6: Two black men put Kevin in his first project is
Speaker 6: that Nah? Before Soul Playing? It was definitely for Dynasty.
Speaker 6: It was a state state property, state property, state property
Speaker 6: define with Dynasty, he was in state property.
Speaker 3: No people soldiers.
Speaker 6: And Russ Paul put him into something too, but I
Speaker 6: can't know the name of it, but they were the
Speaker 6: first two people to put.
Speaker 5: Him out the damn shout out to Russ's right, Yeah, man,
Speaker 5: Like anybody that's giving you a leg up in this business,
Speaker 5: like shout them out the whole time.
Speaker 2: You know, do you make a call and well to people?
Speaker 4: A lot of people, you know, I started young.
Speaker 5: So the people that helped me, like work at Nickelodeon,
Speaker 5: they're not necessarily like names or whatever, but like the
Speaker 5: producers of all that in Kennicott was like Brian Robbins,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and Mike Tolan, and you know,
Speaker 5: Mike has gone on to do like more sports kind
Speaker 5: of documentary kind of stuff, and Brian is like the
Speaker 5: head of Paramount now, you know. But they were definitely
Speaker 5: big helps. Lauren is a big help. Theater teachers, you
Speaker 5: know my high school, you know, drama teacher, mister Freddie
Speaker 5: Hendrix shout out.
Speaker 4: You know, people like that, they're just as opposed to help.
Speaker 5: Just gave me game, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 5: gave me game about surviving the game, but also how
Speaker 5: to like be a real performer and be professional and
Speaker 5: show up on time and kill it.
Speaker 7: I was gonna ask, you know, do you make a
Speaker 7: phone call when you're about to do a skit or
Speaker 7: do something about somebody, you know, something happened to somebody
Speaker 7: that you effort.
Speaker 4: You should You don't know.
Speaker 2: I just take it, like you know, you got those
Speaker 2: calls before, like bro, oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Steve Harvey didn't love it. You know, he didn't
Speaker 5: love it at first. You just ain't watch yourself, you know,
Speaker 5: because you know, he's a grown man from the streets
Speaker 5: of Clevelans or.
Speaker 4: Whatever it is, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: He's just a big guy, you know, and like he
Speaker 5: comes from like the knuckle up generation where you have
Speaker 5: to and get it in the cold rocking factories or whatever.
Speaker 5: He did, you know. But yeah, at first he was like, hey,
Speaker 5: little rerun watch yourself.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: No, so he calls you or you ran into it.
Speaker 5: I would he would say it on his show, he
Speaker 5: was saying on the radio and like that. So I
Speaker 5: would like eventually like call in and be like, hey man,
Speaker 5: you good. You know, Like once we did like an
Speaker 5: interview or something like that. But whenever I would speak
Speaker 5: to him, it was always love, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But I just think, you know, he had to like
Speaker 5: make his stance kind of known for his audience play
Speaker 5: with blah blah blah. But you know, Steve's also been
Speaker 5: another mentor because we was on his show back in
Speaker 5: the day, and he gave me a lot of game
Speaker 5: basically about just growing up and not.
Speaker 4: Treating the business so young just because you young.
Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of like adults out here
Speaker 5: that's working really hard that's got like real problems when
Speaker 5: they go home, or like, you know, you know, life
Speaker 5: is serious enough, so you can't just be playing all
Speaker 5: the time.
Speaker 6: Right, Basically, how fatherhood change you? Because you got a
Speaker 6: chance to call everything I need to know about life.
Speaker 6: I learned from my girls. I got four girls, you
Speaker 6: got two? Right, How how does father change?
Speaker 4: I mean it really like showed me life outside.
Speaker 5: Of my own personal perspective as far as how I
Speaker 5: approach the day, you know what I mean, like and
Speaker 5: living for others kind of thing, which was.
Speaker 4: Like very different.
Speaker 5: You know, like when you're in a relationship, it's different,
Speaker 5: like you're still both grown individuals, so you expect the
Speaker 5: other individual to like be able to take care of,
Speaker 5: you know, certain basics or whatever because they grow. But
Speaker 5: with a child, it's like, no, they need you for everything,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. In their first few years,
Speaker 5: or the first decade, or you know, even for the
Speaker 5: rest of their life, whatever it is. They need you
Speaker 5: in such a way that it's like it never turns off.
Speaker 5: And I had never really experienced that, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, where it's like, you know, you have to
Speaker 5: be aware of you know, and know what's going on
Speaker 5: with your kids, like on a twenty.
Speaker 4: Four hour basis, you know, three sixty five.
Speaker 5: It's not like you can take a week off just
Speaker 5: because it's Christmas.
Speaker 3: And what did you learn? What have you learned from
Speaker 3: your girl?
Speaker 4: Patience?
Speaker 5: You know, definitely a lot of patients emotion like being
Speaker 5: able to like just embrace having emotional moments, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Because when we were growing up, it
Speaker 5: was either suck it up, take a lap, do this
Speaker 5: or that, any other kind of thing, and never really
Speaker 5: like sit in what's really bothering you kind of thing,
Speaker 5: shake it off, you know what I mean, Like we
Speaker 5: had all those kind of like sayings from coaches and
Speaker 5: things like that, or you know, just growing up as
Speaker 5: a man, you know, like you know, be a man,
Speaker 5: suck it up kind of thing, and you would hear that.
Speaker 4: But they taught me like it's okay.
Speaker 5: To you know, feel these feelings kind of thing and
Speaker 5: like understand what may be causing them and kind of
Speaker 5: work through it. But also like the perspective of a child,
Speaker 5: because we go around like, you know, kind of looking
Speaker 5: and not really seeing the world, maybe just because we're
Speaker 5: seeing it at our height, you know what i mean.
Speaker 5: When you're smaller, you know, you see probably a bigger
Speaker 5: picture and stuff like that kind of stopping smell of
Speaker 5: roses kind of kind of vibe.
Speaker 3: Basically, who's your biggest critic?
Speaker 5: Myself? Yep, because I'm I'm the one that sees it all.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Like some people watch things
Speaker 5: and they just enjoy it surface level, but I'm watching
Speaker 5: like all snap my shoes and tied or you know,
Speaker 5: little ship like my hair and I need a haircut.
Speaker 6: You still got a hairline, though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: That's all a black man can ask for a certain
Speaker 6: You still got a headline.
Speaker 5: God, bless you bless so like you know all that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff too. You know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 5: oh I need a haircut, but like, thank god I
Speaker 5: do have hair kind of thing.
Speaker 4: So that's a stab at you show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I get a haircut.
Speaker 6: You're talking about your get a fresh ball to haircuts
Speaker 6: in a shape.
Speaker 3: Shade.
Speaker 6: I get a fresh ball. You know, it just starts
Speaker 6: right here. The headline starts mid the ball.
Speaker 4: You do your own, or you go somewhere.
Speaker 3: I go to my man every time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I understand, But you know what I don't.
Speaker 6: I like, first of all, my guy right all the
Speaker 6: treatment there.
Speaker 3: You go exactly in the conversation.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean therapy is good. I love therapy too.
Speaker 6: But you know when you go into a barber shop
Speaker 6: and you just kicking, it's like got all girls.
Speaker 3: So it's good to get out the house and get shop.
Speaker 3: You know, that's it.
Speaker 7: Charlemagne pampas himself, So I take my daughters to this uh.
Speaker 2: Manicurist and Pedicurius. Charlamagne is always there.
Speaker 7: They love me and there they like every time I
Speaker 7: go there, Like I see your friend, I went there
Speaker 7: the other day. Charlemagne is always in there.
Speaker 3: They love it.
Speaker 5: He take a lesson stay clean, you know, like I don't.
Speaker 5: I bite my nails unfortunately, man, habit.
Speaker 3: No, man, you got to go get your manicure, pedicure
Speaker 3: ken you deserve it.
Speaker 5: I can't sit there like that. I don't think I
Speaker 5: have patience to just sit there and like let people
Speaker 5: tickle me.
Speaker 4: I'm also I'm also really ticklish.
Speaker 3: You look ticklish?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know he looked ticulars. If that's the case,
Speaker 5: it's the truth, because when did you first realize that?
Speaker 5: What when I got tickeled as a little kid, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, like I don't take a you
Speaker 5: know that was actually like, oh that feels funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody does that. You was an adult though.
Speaker 5: Now grown men shouldn't be tackling another because it usually,
Speaker 5: you know, they.
Speaker 4: Just have a good time, you know nothing.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, you and kel just reconnected too, but
Speaker 6: well not just recollect what y'all did a good burger too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man shout out to my brother.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: Now, I don't know if to say how did y'all
Speaker 6: get back on good terms? And I don't know if
Speaker 6: y'all was having on bad turns.
Speaker 4: No, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think, I mean, but at the same time,
Speaker 5: you know, hearsay and stuff like that can push it
Speaker 5: in that direction if you don't get like the real
Speaker 5: answer from the individual. And since there was a period
Speaker 5: where we weren't really in that much communication, you know,
Speaker 5: they were probably englands of that kind of energy or whatever.
Speaker 5: But once we actually did speak on the phone because
Speaker 5: we were doing a good Burger sketch on the Tonight
Speaker 5: Show or whatever, you know, and we had to spoken
Speaker 5: in years, you know what I'm saying, We knew we
Speaker 5: had to like at least talk before we go perform
Speaker 5: to each other. It was a two second reconciliation.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It was like time had never gone by, basically, and
Speaker 5: it was it felt like such a blessing to me
Speaker 5: and I feel like to him as well, you know,
Speaker 5: to have each other back in each other's lives, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, because we do work so well together,
Speaker 5: and we had established, you know what I mean, something
Speaker 5: so beloved that it would be a crime to kind
Speaker 5: of just let it go into the wind just because
Speaker 5: you know, we wanted, you know, individual career identities.
Speaker 4: Kind of thing.
Speaker 5: You know, we didn't always want to be just Keenan
Speaker 5: and Kell, Like my name is Keenan Thompson and his
Speaker 5: name is cal Mitchell, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 5: like not a lot of people were willing to recognize
Speaker 5: that at the time. So that's kind of like where
Speaker 5: that drift apart started happening. And then, you know, as
Speaker 5: life does, you know, like different experiences are happening, so
Speaker 5: it just takes you and then you the next thing,
Speaker 5: you look up and we haven't spoken in seven years
Speaker 5: or something crazy like that or whatever. It was, so
Speaker 5: for us to reconcile and do the Good Burger sketch
Speaker 5: that was six seven years ago something like that.
Speaker 4: That was really really nice, and.
Speaker 3: Then that was sparked a Good Burger too.
Speaker 5: That's kind of sparked like, yo, I think we need
Speaker 5: to do this, and they were going to do a cartoon,
Speaker 5: and it was like, I think you should do the
Speaker 5: movie first and then do the cartoon. Like everybody's been
Speaker 5: kind of asking for a sequel since the first one
Speaker 5: kind of thing. It's like, if you're going to get
Speaker 5: back into that world, might as well do the second,
Speaker 5: especially if we hear you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 5: we're young enough to like still do it with a
Speaker 5: passion and this, that and the other and try to
Speaker 5: make a good movie. So you know, luckily we were
Speaker 5: able to like put it together and like get it
Speaker 5: green Lid. Shot it in Rhode Island, like thanks to
Speaker 5: artists for artists, and like my business partner, you know,
Speaker 5: Johnny Ryan, who's from there, and.
Speaker 3: Like that's your production company.
Speaker 5: Yeah, got a bunch of like you know whatever tax
Speaker 5: credits to make the budget make sense. And it was
Speaker 5: good for me because it was right up the street, you.
Speaker 4: Know what i mean.
Speaker 5: And my girls were in school till late June or
Speaker 5: something like that, so they were able to take to
Speaker 5: train up on the weekend, you know what i mean,
Speaker 5: as opposed to like having to shoot it in the
Speaker 5: middle of nowhere or something like that.
Speaker 4: So it all became you know, a good positive thing.
Speaker 5: And then we actually made something that people enjoyed, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, And then it broke records, you know.
Speaker 3: Paramounts plus his most watched original film.
Speaker 5: Ever ever, you know what I'm saying, Like several weeks
Speaker 5: of number one, this, that and the other, so like
Speaker 5: it was it was all very positive, and it was
Speaker 5: positive for our company because it was like we make
Speaker 5: a history too, took the first Paramount movie, the Rhode
Speaker 5: Island kind of thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it was just like.
Speaker 5: All, you know, all around really good and then also
Speaker 5: setting up as the you know, the Kenan and Killed
Speaker 5: world continues to grow now, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: because we know we can go work on this project.
Speaker 5: You know, if he got a project, he can go
Speaker 5: do it. If I got a project, I.
Speaker 4: Can go do it.
Speaker 5: But if we come together and do something, we know
Speaker 5: it's going to be like pretty dynamic. So that that's
Speaker 5: a beautiful thing, you know, because we laid a lot
Speaker 5: of track work early as opposed to like having to
Speaker 5: figure it out middle.
Speaker 3: Ages the cartoon's happening.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think there's an opportunity to do even the third
Speaker 5: one before we do the cartoon, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Just because the second one did so well, you can
Speaker 5: continue that world and keep on keep on getting it,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I wanted to ask you one thing.
Speaker 6: Man, he was on Stephen Colbert Show, and you said
Speaker 6: that Seinfeld said, you told Seinfeld the old Colbert apology
Speaker 6: for what.
Speaker 5: On that episode of Comedians and Cars that Colbert did
Speaker 5: with Seinfeld. Seinfeld was like, it was just a bit
Speaker 5: that I wanted to do for the sake of doing bits,
Speaker 5: So it wasn't even really that serious. But Seinfeld was
Speaker 5: saying like his show about getting coffee was way less
Speaker 5: stressful than colbert show, which is like obvious, but to me,
Speaker 5: it was like kind of like minimalizing Colbert's dedication, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. He's one of the most highly dedicated, intelligent,
Speaker 5: absolute formers that we have and the fact that he
Speaker 5: does it, you know, should be showing a little more
Speaker 5: respect kind of thing.
Speaker 4: But I was just talking ship.
Speaker 3: Starting trouble between the white men. But it worked.
Speaker 4: All right. Well, we appreciate you.
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Speaker 2: Put the glasses back on that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me man. Y'all need a guest chair.
Speaker 3: Do you do waking baking?
Speaker 6: Guess we are Jesse Larry and starts on Monday. Right,
Speaker 6: We're gonna have the new set up she got a
Speaker 6: different that's gonna be for the for the guests. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I came right before that.
Speaker 3: You look at you actually could have been the first
Speaker 3: if you wanted to. You can bake in the morning.
Speaker 3: Who's that waken? Bake smoking, we eeding early?
Speaker 4: I don't know nothing about that.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're trying to hurt your kids.
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Speaker 4: All that, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, sponsors are you know, easy to
Speaker 5: talk to, especially when you go and get in front
Speaker 5: of them.
Speaker 4: Is like, man, I don't know what he was talking about.
Speaker 3: Little drugs.
Speaker 6: You know, he might he drinks early in the morning,
Speaker 6: but he's just talking.
Speaker 4: Man. We keep everything legal.
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