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Like great? 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.560 My energy is great, man. Like you know, we're having 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.200 another good season over there. It's forty nine, about to 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.320 be the fiftieth. It's getting real over there, man, That 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.360 fiftieth celebration. I think it's going to be big, was 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:02.880 a lot of people. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.720 So think about Keenan, you wouldn't even know if he 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.320 was doing bad. Keenan the meatia is always the same. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:10.840 Tourist, energy man. Let me take my glasses. 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:15.359 Yeah, we're good. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:17.400 Good. 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:19.639 I would go to ask, you know, when you see 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.359 so many things pop up on social on this. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:22.920 World is it? 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.680 I guess it's good for you because you're like, oh, yeah, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:26.240 this is it. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.800 This is yeah, absolutely, I mean yeah, I mean characters 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.280 in the world or events in the world definitely help, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.239 you know, kind of trigger ideas and stuff like that, 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.680 especially the crazier the better, or anybody that sounds funny 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.680 the better. But at the same time, you know, it's 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.320 hard on comedy these days. You know, you gotta like 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:52.080 really be smart about your approach, especially you know, depending 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.400 on the topic and stuff like that. You know, I 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.360 don't really go out there to offend people necessarily, but 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.720 sometimes it happens, and you know you gotta like learn 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.720 from it, hopefully and just move on, you know, knowing 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.240 that you know your intentions were good in the first place. 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.840 Kind of thing, like we're just trying to heal basically, 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.520 that's what That's what comedy's supposed to be doing. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.560 Is there anything that you won't touch or that y'all 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.160 come together and be like this would be funny, but 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:17.080 not right now? 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.720 Yeah, I mean especially you know, we on network TV, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.800 so it's not like we can just you know, say 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.640 and do whatever. But at the same time, you know, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.160 some topics it might be too early to be trying 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.239 to you know, find a laugh on kind of thing. 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.320 And you know, some certain topics ain't nothing funny about it. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.480 So like too soon, like Donna Rowlins like to say, 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.440 too soon. You think there are some too soon topics. 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.080 You know, there's definitely I mean, Gilb but Godfrey killed 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:42.880 his career with that, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.720 I don't remember when we tweeted something about like nine 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.160 to eleven or something, and it was just like, you know, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.400 there's no reason to like try to be the first 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.360 one with a joke on that topic necessarily, and it'll 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.520 probably be too soon for two hundred years kind of thing, you. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.720 Know, just because it was such a large tragedy. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:04.520 Bringing up people old tweets. Can it don't do peace? 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.440 You know what I'm saying. But like that was that, 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.560 But that's cool. It was. 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.720 It was not anymore. So yeah, you gotta be just 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:15.720 gotta be smart about it. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:17.600 And you know, you got a new book out. When 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.359 I was your age, I should have brought the book. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.440 I wanted to hear us to have it propped up. 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.599 I'm slipping when I was your age, Life lessons, funny 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.480 stories and questionable parenting advice from a professional clown. First 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:29.760 of all, what made you want to write a book? 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.680 Because you always have been a very private person. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.360 Yeah, it's the longest title ever. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.600 I just felt it was time, you know, like a 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.240 lot of people, I guess in my position, a lot 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:41.520 of my heroes have written. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:42.120 Books, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:48.000 You got seven two yea working on third, so uh yeah, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.200 and people approached me. I was just trying to, you know, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.840 make sure I had enough to talk about it for 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.920 like people that actually read books, you know. And luckily 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.800 I worked with a great collaborator, DIBs Bear shout Out, 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.040 you know, and yeah, we put together a pretty good book. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:05.720 From what I'm hearing, like the people that have read 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.200 it seem to enjoy it, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.800 It's not like three hundred pages or nothing, you know, 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.479 which was kind of strange. I'm like, damn, that's my 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:19.520 life story, so you know, but it has definitely been, 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.839 you know, a really cool thing to share with the 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.520 world and you know, tell my story to my parents' 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.480 story and you know, siblings, you know what I'm saying, 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.760 and like let people, you know, kind of know the 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.200 real me, the origin story kind of thing that I 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.520 don't necessarily get to tell on you know, talk shows 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.960 and stuff like that, because you usually want to just 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:38.960 talk about the current thing you're there to promote or whatever. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.400 So yeah, it was a cool experience. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.680 Explain the long ass title because it's a lot there. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:47.479 Yeah, you know, it's just like I guess I've been 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.400 doing it for so long that I had, you know, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.479 a lot to kind of display, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.440 So I had to kind of explain what my position 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.800 is in this world so far in a capturing kind 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.880 of title and kind of tell people like what the 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.520 bo kids so they want to grab it and read it, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.640 you know what I mean. And like that's probably why 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.040 the title is it's so lengthy, but you know, it's 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.960 also some comedy there, because yeah, it is so long 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.680 and yeah, the good word ise of like being a 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.480 professional clown and stuff like that. You know, like I 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.800 take that really seriously, like I'm an actor, you know, 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.200 so like when I'm clowning around, it's usually for higher 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.760 kind of thing, you know, as you can see, like 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.880 my demeanor is pretty pretty level, you say, like I 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.200 don't really even be getting stressed out on my demeanor 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:30.080 doesn't change much. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.080 But yeah, big tourist energy over here, you know what 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:33.520 I'm saying. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.400 And like, but you don't seem hard headed though most 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:36.760 touruses I know hard headed. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.640 I get stubborn about when I think I'm right, you 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.880 know what I'm saying, But like, no, I'm very good 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:42.880 with the flow kind of thing. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:44.159 Do your kids take you serious? 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.839 Or they always see daddy as the clown and the 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:47.719 joke and the laster. 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.200 I'm the clown and I'm definitely in their way, you 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:51.960 know what I'm saying, Like I'm in their way for 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.560 having fun or whatever they want to do. Like you know, 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.359 when they're around their friends, they don't want, you know, 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:00.400 old fuddy daddies around them, you know, so they definitely 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.520 think they're funnier than me, and they probably are. Like 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.160 they definitely like make me laugh. But that's that dynamic. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.560 You know, You're you could be you know, Michael Jordan's 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.280 son and think that your dad just only plays basketball 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:14.760 as opposed to being Michael Jordan. 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.840 Yeah, you know, why do you call your advice, your 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.000 parenting advice questionable? 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.840 I was that your parents advice was questionable, which one 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:22.040 of the. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.680 I mean, it's probably mine, you know, just you know, 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.280 coming from a place where like I don't know everything 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.200 right away, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm just 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.240 figuring it out kind of on the fly as the girls. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:36.440 Basically, Yeah, but we all are though, Like being a 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.920 parent is on the job training. Like there's no manual 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.600 for parenting. So I don't even beat myself up when 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.200 I don't get it right. Actually, I'll apologize to my 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.880 kids and try to do try to do better next time, exactly. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:48.400 That's it. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.880 And yeah, I mean when you when you give advice 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:53.360 to people, it's not like I want to be like, 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.760 you know, I'm the official voice. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.880 On parenting kind of thing, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.160 So you should be able to question like what I'm 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.560 offering kind of to the world if it doesn't work. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.040 For you and your household kind of thing, you know 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:05.880 what I'm saying, Like I'm not trying to. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.679 Like tell everybody exactly what to do with their kids. 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:10.880 Basically, would you want your kids to get in this industry? 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:12.080 Sure? 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:13.680 I mean if they take it seriously, you know what 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.760 I mean, Like I got drama faces tatted on my back, 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.720 you know, so I take it very seriously. And growing up, 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.640 it was you know, there wasn't no automatic you know, 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.840 there wasn't as many platforms as there are now so many, like, 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.280 you know, different kind of ways to get into the business. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.280 It was very specific. You audition, they. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.800 Tell you yes or no, you know, and coming from Atlanta, 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.199 the auditions were less and less. It was mostly commercials 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:41.199 or theater stuff like that, which I'm grateful for because 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.480 like my theater training is like, you know, that's everything, 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.680 you know what I mean, Like that taught me everything 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:50.640 about being an actor and being around other actors that 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.600 have been in the business a long time, you know, 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.640 done a movie here and there, some Spike Lee joints 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.440 or whatever. But when you're in between the times, that's 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.880 when it's like your real dedication, you know, through because 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.679 being a starving artist is no joke, you know what 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.080 I'm saying, And it's a reality for I would say 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.160 more than the majority of people you know in the business, 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.440 Like like a lot of people are like living like 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.800 check to check, especially if you don't know how to 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.280 subsidize with another job. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.040 So, yeah, you. 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.679 Got a chapter title called I'm Glad I went broke? 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.880 When did that happen? You've been You've been working since 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:26.760 at least nine and. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.880 Foul, yo, Yeah, like I've been blessed to continue working. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.400 But yeah, I had a bad accountant and it came 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:37.120 to the light around ninety nine, like around two thousand, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.840 which was really bad timing because that's right when I 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:41.960 left my consistent gig, you. 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:42.480 Know what I'm saying. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.199 So then I went into being an adult actor for hire, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.320 and that is very. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:49.079 Hit and miss. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.720 So there was, you know, some good jobs like I 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.199 did Felicity that was cool, And I got to meet 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.280 jj Abrams when he was young, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.559 And that's like a priceless kind of a friendship, I 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.320 would say, just because he's grown to be, you know, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.800 such a major force in the industry. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.560 But it was like six months until love Don't Cost 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:09.439 a thing, you know what I mean. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.280 I was happy to get love don't cause things. My 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:15.240 brother Nick's movie, Yeah, we had in my house, you 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:15.760 know what I'm saying. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:16.920 I was like, yeah at your house. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.160 Yeah, I was ridding this house that had a bunch 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.640 of space or whatever. But you know, we was young, 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.760 so it was like, yeah, move all the furniture, the silence, 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:27.840 just you know, throw a party and like invite everybody 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.199 kind of thing back in those days. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:30.360 So that was fun. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.079 But it was still broke, you know what I mean, 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.040 like just money enough for the rent kind of thing. 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:38.160 And yeah that you know, the account was was dirty, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.480 and I ended up not letting that be the end 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.400 all be all of what my life is going to be. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.640 So I just you know, moved back to Calamn and continue. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:46.760 How much did they account and get you for. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.559 A million and a half? Damn something like that. 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:54.079 I mean that was you know, my contractual like deal 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:59.280 at the time or whatever. But for like overall, Nick, yeah, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.640 for a few years or whatever, and then yeah, I 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:02.560 never saw none of it. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:08.800 So you that ain't funny. You walked away from you 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.920 over there about that point, So you walked. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:16.480 Away from Nickelodeon the overall deal, I was just up, 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:17.199 you know what I mean. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.199 You didn't feel like, you know, we wanted to continue 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.800 like Kenannickhill to college, like we couldn't figure it out basically, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.720 and we were just like, I think we should just 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.520 go figure out what it looks like for us to. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.320 Be adult performers for the world. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.280 And it was just like reproving grounds as almost like 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.440 it was almost like starting over, you know, because like 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.760 everybody wanted to treat us like kids or keep us 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.120 in a category or whatever, and we just had to 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.680 like learn how to prove ourselves. And for me, you know, 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.480 SNL was that the biggest bridge, you know, as far 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.040 as like adults taking me seriously as an adult because 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.000 we were already grown, you know, we was in our twenties, 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.280 you know, so we didn't want to be like thirty 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.800 years old still trying to play a kid on Nickelodeon. 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.520 And yeah, the time end of that was just it 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.600 was just crazy. So it was a couple of years 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.280 of like, man, I don't know about this whole like, 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.080 you know, one job here, one job there, like every 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.040 few months kind of thing, because the bills come, you 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.440 know what I mean, every month, no matter what and yeah, 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.880 you know, thank god, life goes in the cycle. So 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.320 when I was feeling down, I would, you know, get 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.959 a gig, and that would like, you know, start trending upward, 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.040 and then you know, trending further up from loved on 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:24.319 cost Thin to the barber shop too, you know what 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.040 I mean. And then Barbershop too, left there and like 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.959 went to audition from enc and out, like do. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:30.480 You remember that when you auditioned and they called you 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:31.400 back and said you got the part? 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:32.920 Do you remember that one? 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.480 Because it was a long process, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.960 came to New York straight from Chicago from shooting barber Shop, 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.760 like feeling great or whatever, and then seeing what you 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.319 up against and it was every black comic you could 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.320 even possibly think of. Right, So I had to do 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.760 stand up at the stand Up New York. I had 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.760 never done I stand up before. It was a nightmare. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:53.880 And then I saw Call and I hadn't seen him 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.160 in a while, you know what I'm saying, Like at 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.920 the audition and that was awkward, but it was like, 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.760 you know, good luck, good luck or whatever. And then 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.560 I did three minutes of something terrible because I wasn't 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.200 a stand up comic. I didn't know how to address 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.439 the crowd at all. I think I just started with. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:09.280 That was part of the audition. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.520 You had to do stand up. Yeah, you walked up 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:12.280 there was like HI. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:14.600 Said Hi. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.640 I think I just went right into like ol shopping 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.640 or something like talking to Arnold Schwazennigga, you know what 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.960 I mean, just like like a kid in his own room, 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.520 basically like playing in the mirror kind of thing. And yeah, 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.360 it didn't go well, but they saw something and I 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.880 got a call back that was in the studio that 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:32.720 felt more comfortable. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.000 I was used to that, you know what I mean. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:35.920 So I did that same kind of stick with a 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.880 couple more minutes added on or whatever. And then I 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.520 went home for a week and didn't hear nothing, you 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.280 know what I mean. And that was just like torture. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:43.920 Thought it was rat I thought it was over. I 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:45.880 thought I ruining. And you know, SNL was one of 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.640 those jobs. If you don't get it, you live with that, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.120 you know, kind of for the rest of your life, 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.440 or if things go left when you do get it, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.520 you know what I mean, Like that's not an experience 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.160 you really just forget or like be like, oh that's 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:57.600 in the past. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.520 I could just move on like it stays with you, you know. 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.200 So yeah, that week was torturing. And then they called. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.400 They were like, all right, we want you to try 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:05.920 one more time at the Live Factory. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.960 I was like, more stand up, you know. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.360 What I mean, Why didn't you just tell him I'm 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:10.040 not a stand up. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.360 I didn't want to rock the boat, you know what 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:13.600 I mean, trying to. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:14.960 Get a job stand up. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.400 Stand up is the most difficult thing I feel like 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:18.960 anybody can do in comedy. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:19.280 It really is. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:23.400 And I also wasn't really aware of the second city 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.280 and groundings of it all because I'm at an improper 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.040 I just like started working, you know, from like age twelve, 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.960 you know, from doing commercials to theater to you know, 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.080 movies or whatever. So I didn't really have a chance 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:37.760 to like go to school for performing necessarily, like that 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.560 was my school. So yeah, more stand up and I 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.120 you know, I didn't want to rock the boat. And 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.520 it was a terrible night for me because the other 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.920 four people were actually stand ups, you know what I mean, 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.960 And they were killed JB. Smooth for Ness Mitchell, you 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.320 know what I mean. D Ray It was you know, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.760 it was a lineup and they was destroying. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.600 And then I went up there and did my little 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:00.640 bullshit and like. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.840 What were you were you first? Were you fourth? 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.360 For your second? I was last? 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.600 You went after d ray JB and Mitchell Yes. 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:12.080 Christ yeah, and Kyle Grooms and like Kyle Room. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.880 Yeah, I think Kyle, but I know Kyle was in 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.360 New York, but I think he was in LA too, 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.480 But I know I went last after a bunch of 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.720 brilliant for Front for Comics, and I was so nervous. Man, 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.680 I was drinking out the sink because that was the 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.600 bathroom and like the bar was over there, so I 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.160 didn't want to like go back and forth, you know 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.080 what I mean, like interrupt or anything like that. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:33.760 So you really really wanted to kill it, but you 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:34.480 couldn't get you. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.520 Know, but I was so nervous, Like I was just like, man, 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.440 I can't quench my throomb, drinking. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.760 Water, drinking water, New York warter back. Then I'm like. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:42.920 Killing it up with the sink water and like still 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:44.400 and I was just like crazy nervous. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.240 But I didn't get booed. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.600 So that was, you know, definitely not a dagger, because 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.000 if I would have got booed. I don't even know 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.320 if I would have wanted the job, because would have 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.480 felt like I didn't deserve it. But then after that, 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.680 they called the next day, and then I think they 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.320 called on a Saturday and I was in New York 0:15:59.320 --> 0:15:59.800 on Monday. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:00.840 Yeah. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.560 Wow, And now you're the longest run of cast member. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.360 Want I want to go back to this one point 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:05.960 five million? 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.400 How does the how do you lose one point five million? 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.000 Do? Because I know you said it, but I know 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.760 people are listening, like, how does that happen? 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.200 We gave that dude power of attorney when we shouldn't have. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:16.320 You know, kids. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.120 Yeah, I was a kid, and my mom was trying 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:20.600 to protect me, you know what I mean. And he 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.720 had helped her out of her like tax situations, like 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.240 her and my dad's like tax situations. So she thought 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.360 she could trust him, but she could trust him with 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.760 like day thirty to fifty grand issues kind of shit. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.000 But like when it's like a million dollars on the table, 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.720 you never know what people going to turn into. And 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.520 apparently he turned into a demon. And you know, I'm 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.320 sure his commerce come back to him. But if it 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.280 wasn't for that. I don't know, if you know, my 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.640 track would be the same, because I was ready to settle. 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:49.480 Into Atlanta, you know what I mean. 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:50.960 Like I was ready to just be like, no, I'm 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.880 good and like, you know, it's three out a half 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.600 hours to LA so if they need me, they can 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.320 call me kind of thing. But I don't think I 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.240 would have been as hungry or you know, as you know, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.359 dedicated necessarily, like I was dedicated to Atlanta, Like Atlanta was, 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.480 you know, my everything basically, so I was very comfortable 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.600 there and very willing to just be like around the 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.200 corner from my mama and be happy. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.480 You couldn't suit the accountant or nothing. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.280 That I did, and I won, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.000 But he can't pay you know what I'm saying, So 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:20.440 it's just paperwork. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.439 Basically, you want to spend more money to sue them 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:23.400 and not get no money. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.879 Back one, you know. And I sued him for years 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.520 and ended up winning. But I sued him because the 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.560 IRS came after me, you know what I'm saying, and 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.360 they were like, you haven't paid your taxes all the time. 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.200 I'm like, well that's what he was supposed. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.880 To be doing, and he went ran, don't y'all see 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:37.200 like I ain't got the money, like you know what 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:37.640 I'm saying. 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.280 So, but and Uncle Sam don't care. 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:41.400 They don't care at all. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.080 They want their money, you know. So I got my 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.040 settlement and it's on that person now. But as far 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.520 as like me getting that money back, and I knew 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.360 it as soon as it happened, you know what I'm saying, 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:52.000 I'm like, I ain't never. 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:52.840 Gonna see that money. 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:54.320 Yeah, I might as well just get back and start 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.119 from scratch and just you know, forget about it. If 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.840 it comes back, great, but you know it has yet too. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.320 But I've been blessed in so many other ways. Like 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.040 I take those life lessons and just learn from them. 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.520 I'm so sorry for everybody in that situation because they 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.119 don't teach us financial literacy. When when when the communities 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.000 we come from, but then we get people that we 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.200 think are supposed to have our best interest in that way, 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.119 and they take advantage it. Just like, how can you 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:20.960 ever trust my man a black man? 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.280 God damn, an elder black man? 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.119 How can you trust somebody ever again? 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.639 Because like you want to try to keep hope, you know, 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.639 you want to try to keep hope on humanity, you 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:32.919 know what I. 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:39.359 Mean, Jackson, just you try to keep keep alive, you know. 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.920 But yeah, I don't know, man, Like I've never been 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.200 one to be like, oh he's a piece of shit, 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.560 So this next person might be you know what I mean, 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:49.959 Like everybody has a chance to kind of prove themselves 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:50.720 to be what they are. 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.440 Those guys, when did you get comfortable on Saturday Night Live? 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.440 Because you had to be nervous, you know when you 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.159 first starting off, you with all these people that's been 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.760 there before, and when did you get comfortable? 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.119 It took a while because you have a writer's burden 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.199 on that, Sonela, and I didn't come from that, you know. 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.199 I just came from being given scripts and then I 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.400 do what I do and like if we added something, 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:11.919 then they'll put it in or whatever. But I was 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.520 never like part of that process. So it was like 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:16.920 a learning thing as I went along. And I don't 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.840 think I was like comfortable, comfortable until I got my 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.000 first personal idea on the show and that was like 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:22.640 season five. 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.760 Wow, Yeah, Scared Straight. Shout out to Scared Straight. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.360 Why that role in particular? 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:29.480 What Scared Straight? 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.240 Yeah? Like, why did that make you the most comfortable. 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.040 Well that was just the first one that I got on, 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.080 and I was like, oh, I finally like made my. 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.040 Sense of humor makes sense in this place. Godcha, you 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:40.640 know what I mean. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.680 So yeah, Like I just felt like up until that point, 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.280 my ideas were going all over the place. I didn't 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.159 really know how to really collab with writers, or I 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.880 would collab off of their ideas as opposed to something 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:55.480 personal to me, you know what I mean. And then 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:59.879 like I started to like learn how to bring forward 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.040 the black zeitgeist, you know what I'm saying, and like 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:04.080 make that appealing. 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.119 That's gonna go on after fifty. I remember when I 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.520 interviewed you on my late night show, you said you 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:11.399 think you should end it? 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.479 That I mean, I thought it would be a good 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:16.080 number to stop at it if that was the case, 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.000 But I don't think it is. I think they gonna 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:19.480 keep it running, you know what I'm saying, Like, it 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.600 doesn't make a difference if it winds up stopping at 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.840 seventy two, it doesn't really matter. But fifty it just 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:27.879 felt like such a good package, just like, you know, 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.680 here's fifty years of SNL time Warner. You know what 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.359 I mean, so that around o'clock or whatever, DVDs, this, that, 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.520 and the other. It's just a nice would number, Like 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.679 if they get to a hundred, great, if they get 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.800 to two hundred, you know what I mean, incredible, It 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.080 doesn't really matter. But I've never seen a TV show 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.399 outside of like a game show or soap opera go 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:51.560 past thirty years, you know, twenty, Like that's just crazy. 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.000 So I didn't really know how long it was gonna 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.719 take it then if dude was going to retire, you 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:57.760 know after that year. 0:20:58.080 --> 0:20:59.760 Lord Michael, Yeah, it might. 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.600 Be you know, it might be smart to pose it 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.520 or something like that. But at the same time, Tina 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.520 can do it. I can do it, you know. Yeah, 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.680 Steve Higgins, There's a lot of people that can keep 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.879 it going. It's just will it have the same support, 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.280 you know, like budget wise kind of thing, Like if 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.399 you slash the budget, it's a completely different show. And 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.600 then that's not fair to whoever's in that chair. So 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:22.800 it's up to them, you know what I'm saying. But 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.160 from what I'm hearing, I think it's probably gonna continue. 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:26.800 Did you ever feel like you didn't have support of 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.879 the culture of the community you know, because starting off 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.280 as a new culture, any black comedian that's on Saturday 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:35.040 Night Live, they will say, oh, he's the talking black 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.360 or he's not that funny. It's like the hate comes first. 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:38.080 Did you ever feel it? 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.879 I mean, yeah, and anytime I do something that's you know, 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.720 pushing boundaries or anything like that, there's a lot of pushback, 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:52.760 you know. So I definitely felt like the majority of 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.880 black people weren't like, yo, Saturday Night Live is my show, 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:57.520 you know what I mean. It just felt like, oh, 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.040 you on that white show, you know what I mean 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:02.040 when people talk to you about But you know, I 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:04.119 took that and was like, all right, well that's how 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:06.920 y'all feel. You must not really know, you know, kind 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:08.720 of the history of the show and who's really come 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:10.240 out of there, you know what I'm saying. And it's 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.720 just as much our show as anybody else's kind of thing, 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:17.560 because you know, we have, you know, the biggest start 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.120 probably in movie history coming out there. 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.000 Yeah, you know, yeah, I've never heard people say that 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:24.800 there's token blacks on that SNEL. 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:27.720 It just was always there wasn't enough of enough black. 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.240 It was you know, one at a timing for a while. 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.840 You know, because the black people they have are black. Yeah, 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:35.200 Eddie didn't try not to be black. Tracy Mugan didn't 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:36.919 try not to be black, like they went for it. 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:41.320 They I don't think Tracy can help himselfing, you know. 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.639 But yeah, that was part of the conversation that I 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:47.280 was talking about when it was time to get more 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:48.359 black women in the show. 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:49.080 You know. 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:53.560 It's just like my quote that was heavily misquoted or 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:57.119 whatever was just the fact that, you know, the pool 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.560 to choose from isn't large basically as far as the 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:03.239 people that ready to do that show. Like, like I 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:04.720 personally didn't know about the ground. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:05.720 As a second city, you know what I'm saying. 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.040 So let alone you know, a whole bunch of us 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:11.520 knowing about it, and yeah, it's just, you know, it's 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.560 slim pickings sometimes. So it is kind of one at 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.040 a time as far as like discovering the next person 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:17.960 that is ready, you know, because a lot of us 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.760 might have other interests athletics, you know, music, business and 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:25.040 stuff like that that might seem cooler to the culture 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:27.679 and stuff. So you know, when it is time to 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.520 like look for the next you know, they might be 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.120 you know, they might be slim choices kind of thing, 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.720 but I think that's expanding. And you know, the more we, 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.520 you know, continue to display the fact that we can 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.240 do it and that you know, you should open up 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:44.720 the doors and look a little harder. 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.399 If that's the case, you know, you find your. 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.880 Leslie Joneses and your ego Wodhams, you know what I'm saying, 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:54.040 and you shild Jamadas and and you know, you give people, 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.600 you know, an opportunity to show you that we can 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.560 do this as well kind of thing. And you know, 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.840 I think that's kind of like what my words should 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:04.639 have been in that in that quote, you know what 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:05.000 I'm saying. 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.240 I don't even remember the quote. 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.840 The quote that they say I said was that, you know, 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:10.680 black women ain't funny, But that's not what I said. 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:15.960 It was like, that's better though, that's a good one. 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.040 The person writing the story black women Ain't funny comes 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.040 says black women ain't funny. You know, that's basically how 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.000 they blasted me, like for a while, and you know, 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.119 Leslie was mad, like before she met me, she was like, 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.000 let that motherfucker come over here and I'll burn his 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:28.359 ass up. 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:31.600 First of all, I didn't say that. 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.639 And when we first met, you know, that was clarified 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.639 in two seconds, because you know, when you and me, 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:38.320 you know, I'm not outside the culture like that. 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:38.880 You know what I'm saying. 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.560 I don't disrespect my black women at all, you know, 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:43.439 like because like how would my mother look at me? 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:44.480 How would my sister look at me? 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.359 My cousins, this, that, and my that. I'm not an idiot, 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.240 you know what I'm saying. And I'm not detached from 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.000 the world either like that, you know what I'm saying. 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:55.119 So I would never say something so egregious. But my 0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:58.720 point was, yeah, man, like this, it's I'm sure there's small, 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.800 low numbers, you know, in those improv houses wherever they 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.880 might be. So if I'm wrong, let me be wrong. 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.399 But I don't think I am because I've been in 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.240 the business a long time and I go to shows 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:10.720 a lot, you know what I'm saying, And I be looking, 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.040 you know, and I look back on history, like when 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.600 you watch Chris Farley in his Second City Days or whatever, 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:17.840 and you look at the background and his performance it 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.240 was tim medals. It wasn't like it was tim medals, 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.040 and A's Kevin and there's Joe and there's this that, 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.920 and they are all black and together and only Tim 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:25.440 got the shot. 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.160 It was just Tim metals there. You know what I'm saying, 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:28.560 That was it. 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.800 The problem with headlines is there's no nuance to headlines 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.200 because headlines can't be nuanced. Like if you tried the 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:37.160 nuanced the headline, it looked like the title of your book. 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:38.919 So it has to be something quick, you know what. 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:40.240 It has to be sharp. 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.000 Yeah, So like I get it, and it you know, 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.280 they did their job throwing me under the bus. 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:49.000 Like you know what I'm saying, That bus driven by 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:50.679 black woman is no joke, you know. 0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.600 But at the same time, you know, you got to 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.080 look towards the positive, and the positive is it did 0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:58.320 open the doors for some people, you know, even if 0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:00.800 it was you know, me having to be the scapegold 0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:01.240 or whatever. 0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:04.080 So I can't be mad at it. How much longer 0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.680 than I can be? But this guy got a plan? 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:08.639 How much longer does Keenan want to do? Us? 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:12.320 And L I mean, I don't know that that question 0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.840 continues to vary, you know, like it all kind of 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.720 starts depending on like what the kids want to do 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.240 and where the kids want to be, Like how much 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.480 more time can I spend with them? If possible? And 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.600 also like are people getting tired of my moves? You 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:29.359 know what I'm saying, Like are people getting tired of 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.000 seeing me on the show all the time? 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:31.720 And stuff like that. 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:36.639 So it also is a long schedule and takes up 0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:38.800 most of the year kind of things. So you know, 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:42.080 it might be time for like to make room for 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.480 other opportunities at the same time, but I want to 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:45.960 see that fiftieth at least. 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.600 It is scary for you when you think about, all right, 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.840 last time I walked away from a steady gig. 0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:58.480 Yeah, damn not in no hurry to like get back 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.720 to that. Yeah, I've been there, done that, you know 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:01.080 what I mean. 0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:02.400 You know that's a guarantee check. 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.480 Yeah, And it's a guaranteed way of life, which is 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.280 rare for an actor, you know, like a lot of 0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.200 actors is at the airport, you know what I'm saying, 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.359 and some casters going to New Zealand for ten years, 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.280 you know, Like I can't really afford to do that 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.320 with you know, small children, you know what I mean, 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.120 Like I love them, So. 0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.240 The fifty if you might walk away, see that, See 0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:21.320 how trying to put you on the head. 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.040 It could be, it couldn't. It all depends. It all 0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:28.480 depends on, you know, how that season goes as well. 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:29.600 You know what i mean, because like right now, we 0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.479 only have way through forty nine and that's a lot 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.720 of ideas and a lot of sketches. There's a lot 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.520 of chances to do something like brilliant and stuff like that. 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.160 But it's also a lot of chances to kind of like, 0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.120 you know, show people that I've been there a long time, 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:47.359 which is like it's not necessarily great when you're trying 0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.840 to create things fresh and new and you want to 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.520 show to feel fresh and new, you. 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:51.960 Know what I mean. 0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:54.879 So I've been you know, kind of happy to be 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.280 in the background or see like Devin get a sketch 0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.920 on finally, you know what i mean, like for himself 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.000 kind of thing like he did, you know on Saturday. 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.240 You know, like I was like very happy for him 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.080 for that, like cause other things have been like collaborative 0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.280 or he'll have a part here and there, but a 0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.600 whole sketch to himself. I think that might have been 0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:13.280 his first one on Saturday, and that's a that's a 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.880 big step, you know what I'm saying, and that's how 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.440 the show continues to move on through history. So if 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.000 I need to move to the side to allow for 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:22.840 those things to happen and just like come in at 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.120 the end of the schedule or whatever and help or whatever. 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:26.360 I'm good doing that. 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:30.040 Like I've had my moments where you know, I put 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.960 up an idea and like people are singing it as 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.000 they decorate their Christmas tree, Like what's up with that? 0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:35.680 You know what I'm saying? 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.840 And that's that's something that like went hyper viral and 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.280 like I hear about it to this day. I did 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:45.200 that for the first time fourteen years ago, so I'm 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.360 crazy like that maybe seventeen years or what well season? 0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:49.640 What season man twenty one? 0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.520 Yeah, fourteen years ago, so you know what I mean, 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.960 Like that's a long time, bro, And we do twenty 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.000 shows a season. That's a lot of sketches and a 0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:00.400 lot of different characters and stuff like that. So I mean, 0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.440 long story short, if i feel like I'm still creating 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.600 and it's not a headache for people, you know what 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.200 I mean, then yeah. 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:08.040 I'll keep it going. 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:09.440 Financially, you gotta be good. 0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:10.920 It's not like you're gonna be in line at the 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:12.240 food bank that you're in an ambassador. 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.920 Yeah, no, yeah, man, you shout out to the food bank. 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:17.400 They're doing really really great things over there. 0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:19.920 We're ambassadors there, we are, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:23.920 We're ambassadors for you know, leaving nobody behind, you know 0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:29.000 what I'm saying, And like I love that. Financial wise, yeah, 0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.000 we're doing all right, and we're going to continue to 0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.080 do so. But at any given moment, you know what 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:35.600 I mean. And also, like you know, there's a lot 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:37.800 of things going on in the world, so if anything happens, 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.320 like you know, worldly, then you know, you don't have 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:41.920 no control of it. Don't matter what we got in 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.200 the bank kind of thing. So try to celebrate the 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:45.360 day man, as it goes. 0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:46.840 I was going to ask, you know, when you watch 0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:50.040 things that happen, do you have an opinion or as in, 0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:50.600 do you care? 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:51.040 Or is it? 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.840 The first thing is sketch? Right, So Shannon sharp cat 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.000 Williams right, he's going crazy. Are you thinking, oh, this 0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.480 is a sketch and this is I'm gonna break it down? 0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.920 Or are you thinking, damn, why is he going at 0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:01.600 so many people? 0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:04.920 Well, some things are obviously going to be a sketch, 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:06.200 you know what I'm saying. Like, as soon as I 0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.560 saw it, I'm like, oh yeah, like this is definitely 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.920 going to be a sketch only because like Cat Williams 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:12.640 is a good impression, you know what I mean, Shanna 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.120 Sharp is a good impression, and this is definitely a 0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.760 moment that everybody has seen, right, so it's gonna be like, 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:23.360 you know, whoever's first to get the sketch up. Basically 0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.160 at that point, there's a lot of nighttime shows that 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.120 could have done it, you know what I mean, or whatever, 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.800 But when we do it, it's on a different level 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.800 because like our departments are crazy, like our whig department, 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.080 our wardrobe, you know what I mean, our sets. 0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.640 Like the audio, the whole team, you know what I mean. 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.040 Yeah, Like the whole team is like on super duper 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.320 point because they've been doing it for forever and they 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:45.960 take it serious. 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:46.840 They love it, you know what I mean. 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.680 It's a family, like a generational kind of family that 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.120 worked there. So yeah, when I saw that, I was like, 0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.040 we're doing this for sure. I wish we weren't on 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:57.800 break and everybody was texting like I know y'all about 0:30:57.800 --> 0:30:59.479 to do this. This weekend. I'm like, man, we all 0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.600 for another week. You can have bro and everyone, Oh 0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.520 my god, we gotta wait. But shout out the eggo man, 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.800 you know what I mean? She get it, like, yeah, 0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.440 they destroyed it, and I was I was eating it 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:12.480 up because I was it was entertaining, like the first 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.960 time I watched it and I was like, oh snap, 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.680 you know he said spilling everything, you know, and I 0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.360 was enjoying it that way. And then of course, you know, 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.239 the elder started chiming in, and like when Dave chimed in, 0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.600 like why you're painting us with such a you know, 0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:29.920 why you're painting dirty, ugly pictures of us or whatever, 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.360 It's like, all right, I gotta calm down, you know 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.760 what I'm saying, Like take that into mind, the fact 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:38.959 that you know it the bigger pictures. We are supposed 0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:43.120 to be pushing uphill together kind of thing. And yeah, 0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.640 it was like all right, well, you know, maybe we 0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.480 shouldn't be, you know, lashing out or throwing each other 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.000 under the bus or whatever. But you know, at first, 0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:53.479 I was like, oh, I love this. 0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:57.440 You know, at a comedian, is that something you would 0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.120 want to get mentioned in? Would you want cat to 0:31:59.120 --> 0:31:59.680 say your name. 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.120 Nah, I don't want to be in No, I don't 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.040 want to be and nobody driving at all, you know 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.760 what I'm saying, Especially like you know, the topics that 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.520 they were discussing. I'm like, I could be on the 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.240 wrong side of this at any given moment if they 0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.360 want to mention me. But my perspective on that, in 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.239 my mind doesn't have me on the wrong side of it. 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.600 But you know, people have their opinion. 0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:20.960 You might be a plant to somebody. 0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.680 Yeah, yeah, how you go from good Burger toes and 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.400 L and be there for twenty years? 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.320 Yeah, you know, like that's that's his opinion on that, 0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:33.560 and it's dismissive unfortunately of you know, like Kevin's been 0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.160 showing up to work all this time, you know what 0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.080 I'm saying. It's not like even if he was like 0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.120 planning and being like, all right, here's a movie for you, 0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.280 he had to still do that movie. 0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:42.640 He had to show up to this, you know what 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:43.320 I mean, And. 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.160 Like, don't even if he was planning. 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.480 Like he wasn't planning, if he was just given an opportunity, 0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.040 that doesn't come as easy to others say it like that. 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:55.240 You know what I'm saying, he still had to take 0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:56.400 it and run with it, you know what I mean, 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.680 and do all the stand up and do all the 0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:00.800 other TV show movies and stand the other and like 0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:07.280 continue his track of professionalists. So like industry plants, unfortunately 0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:09.040 dismisses the work ethic. 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.720 Of an individual, you know. And I think that's a nepotism. 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.880 Like you know, a lot of people want to do 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.280 for their children in any kind of environment, whether it's 0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.160 Hollywood or corporate America. 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:18.880 You know what I'm saying. 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.800 But if the child becomes successful, it's not just because 0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:26.040 the dad padded them along the entire time, you know 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.280 what I mean. Usually they have a work ethic and 0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.320 they want to actually go out there and make those 0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.680 connections and make people see them, you know what I mean. 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.920 So try not to dismiss the individual just because they 0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.040 have an opportunity that you might not have had. 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:39.560 Kind of thing. 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:41.080 And I want to shout out to two black men 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.960 who first put Kevin in movies, Damon Dash and Russ Parr. 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.840 Two black men put Kevin in his first project is 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:50.200 that Nah? Before Soul Playing? It was definitely for Dynasty. 0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:55.880 It was a state state property, state property, state property 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.240 define with Dynasty, he was in state property. 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:00.280 No people soldiers. 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.520 And Russ Paul put him into something too, but I 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.240 can't know the name of it, but they were the 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:07.080 first two people to put. 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.560 Him out the damn shout out to Russ's right, Yeah, man, 0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:13.040 Like anybody that's giving you a leg up in this business, 0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.520 like shout them out the whole time. 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.000 You know, do you make a call and well to people? 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:20.959 A lot of people, you know, I started young. 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.040 So the people that helped me, like work at Nickelodeon, 0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:29.160 they're not necessarily like names or whatever, but like the 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.840 producers of all that in Kennicott was like Brian Robbins, 0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.000 you know what I'm saying, and Mike Tolan, and you know, 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.200 Mike has gone on to do like more sports kind 0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.560 of documentary kind of stuff, and Brian is like the 0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:42.440 head of Paramount now, you know. But they were definitely 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:46.160 big helps. Lauren is a big help. Theater teachers, you 0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:49.000 know my high school, you know, drama teacher, mister Freddie 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:49.960 Hendrix shout out. 0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.440 You know, people like that, they're just as opposed to help. 0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.000 Just gave me game, you know what I'm saying, And 0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:00.680 gave me game about surviving the game, but also how 0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.000 to like be a real performer and be professional and 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:04.160 show up on time and kill it. 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.920 I was gonna ask, you know, do you make a 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.000 phone call when you're about to do a skit or 0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.719 do something about somebody, you know, something happened to somebody 0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:12.600 that you effort. 0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.399 You should You don't know. 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.600 I just take it, like you know, you got those 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.479 calls before, like bro, oh. 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:23.560 Yeah, Steve Harvey didn't love it. You know, he didn't 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.440 love it at first. You just ain't watch yourself, you know, 0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:32.520 because you know, he's a grown man from the streets 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:33.960 of Clevelans or. 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:35.080 Whatever it is, you know what I'm saying. 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:39.320 He's just a big guy, you know, and like he 0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.800 comes from like the knuckle up generation where you have 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:46.480 to and get it in the cold rocking factories or whatever. 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.799 He did, you know. But yeah, at first he was like, hey, 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:51.759 little rerun watch yourself. 0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:53.279 All right? 0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.000 No, so he calls you or you ran into it. 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.719 I would he would say it on his show, he 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.960 was saying on the radio and like that. So I 0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.600 would like eventually like call in and be like, hey man, 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.960 you good. You know, Like once we did like an 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.200 interview or something like that. But whenever I would speak 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.239 to him, it was always love, you know what I'm saying. 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:12.759 But I just think, you know, he had to like 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:16.000 make his stance kind of known for his audience play 0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:19.880 with blah blah blah. But you know, Steve's also been 0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.440 another mentor because we was on his show back in 0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:23.799 the day, and he gave me a lot of game 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.560 basically about just growing up and not. 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.080 Treating the business so young just because you young. 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.520 You know, there's a lot of like adults out here 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.799 that's working really hard that's got like real problems when 0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.200 they go home, or like, you know, you know, life 0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.000 is serious enough, so you can't just be playing all 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:42.440 the time. 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.040 Right, Basically, how fatherhood change you? Because you got a 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:46.680 chance to call everything I need to know about life. 0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.640 I learned from my girls. I got four girls, you 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:52.880 got two? Right, How how does father change? 0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:56.960 I mean it really like showed me life outside. 0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.239 Of my own personal perspective as far as how I 0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.279 approach the day, you know what I mean, like and 0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.359 living for others kind of thing, which was. 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.320 Like very different. 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.440 You know, like when you're in a relationship, it's different, 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.319 like you're still both grown individuals, so you expect the 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.560 other individual to like be able to take care of, 0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.440 you know, certain basics or whatever because they grow. But 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.680 with a child, it's like, no, they need you for everything, 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.520 you know what I'm saying. In their first few years, 0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:23.840 or the first decade, or you know, even for the 0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.400 rest of their life, whatever it is. They need you 0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:31.040 in such a way that it's like it never turns off. 0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:32.840 And I had never really experienced that, you know what 0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.440 I mean, where it's like, you know, you have to 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.600 be aware of you know, and know what's going on 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.200 with your kids, like on a twenty. 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.879 Four hour basis, you know, three sixty five. 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:43.920 It's not like you can take a week off just 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:45.440 because it's Christmas. 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:47.480 And what did you learn? What have you learned from 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:47.879 your girl? 0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:49.520 Patience? 0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:56.680 You know, definitely a lot of patients emotion like being 0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:01.640 able to like just embrace having emotional moments, you know 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.799 what I mean, Because when we were growing up, it 0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:05.719 was either suck it up, take a lap, do this 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.319 or that, any other kind of thing, and never really 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.920 like sit in what's really bothering you kind of thing, 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.440 shake it off, you know what I mean, Like we 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.160 had all those kind of like sayings from coaches and 0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:16.960 things like that, or you know, just growing up as 0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.560 a man, you know, like you know, be a man, 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.200 suck it up kind of thing, and you would hear that. 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.359 But they taught me like it's okay. 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.440 To you know, feel these feelings kind of thing and 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.360 like understand what may be causing them and kind of 0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:32.439 work through it. But also like the perspective of a child, 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.760 because we go around like, you know, kind of looking 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:39.680 and not really seeing the world, maybe just because we're 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.359 seeing it at our height, you know what i mean. 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.480 When you're smaller, you know, you see probably a bigger 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.560 picture and stuff like that kind of stopping smell of 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:49.120 roses kind of kind of vibe. 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.800 Basically, who's your biggest critic? 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:57.200 Myself? Yep, because I'm I'm the one that sees it all. 0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.200 You know what I'm saying. Like some people watch things 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.240 and they just enjoy it surface level, but I'm watching 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.480 like all snap my shoes and tied or you know, 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.680 little ship like my hair and I need a haircut. 0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:08.640 You still got a hairline, though, you know what I'm saying. 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.680 That's all a black man can ask for a certain 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:12.800 You still got a headline. 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:16.840 God, bless you bless so like you know all that 0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:18.880 kind of stuff too. You know what I'm saying, like, 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.480 oh I need a haircut, but like, thank god I 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:22.960 do have hair kind of thing. 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:24.439 So that's a stab at you show. 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:25.840 Yeah, man, I get a haircut. 0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.840 You're talking about your get a fresh ball to haircuts 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:30.799 in a shape. 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:33.560 Shade. 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.480 I get a fresh ball. You know, it just starts 0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:38.640 right here. The headline starts mid the ball. 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:40.760 You do your own, or you go somewhere. 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.399 I go to my man every time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:45.919 I understand, But you know what I don't. 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.560 I like, first of all, my guy right all the 0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.600 treatment there. 0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:53.200 You go exactly in the conversation. 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:54.960 Yeah you know what I'm saying. 0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.359 Yeah, I mean therapy is good. I love therapy too. 0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:58.880 But you know when you go into a barber shop 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.760 and you just kicking, it's like got all girls. 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.319 So it's good to get out the house and get shop. 0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.040 You know, that's it. 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:11.120 Charlemagne pampas himself, So I take my daughters to this uh. 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.200 Manicurist and Pedicurius. Charlamagne is always there. 0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.319 They love me and there they like every time I 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.400 go there, Like I see your friend, I went there 0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.319 the other day. Charlemagne is always in there. 0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:21.360 They love it. 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:26.279 He take a lesson stay clean, you know, like I don't. 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.840 I bite my nails unfortunately, man, habit. 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:31.920 No, man, you got to go get your manicure, pedicure 0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:33.239 ken you deserve it. 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.360 I can't sit there like that. I don't think I 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.759 have patience to just sit there and like let people 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:38.160 tickle me. 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:42.000 I'm also I'm also really ticklish. 0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:43.200 You look ticklish? 0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:54.839 Yeah, you know he looked ticulars. If that's the case, 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.719 it's the truth, because when did you first realize that? 0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.759 What when I got tickeled as a little kid, you 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.560 know what I mean, like I don't take a you 0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.120 know that was actually like, oh that feels funny. 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.040 Yeah, nobody does that. You was an adult though. 0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.760 Now grown men shouldn't be tackling another because it usually, 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:12.520 you know, they. 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.919 Just have a good time, you know nothing. 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.239 Oh my god, you and kel just reconnected too, but 0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.520 well not just recollect what y'all did a good burger too. 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:26.839 Yeah, man shout out to my brother. 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:27.120 Man. 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.520 Now, I don't know if to say how did y'all 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:30.880 get back on good terms? And I don't know if 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.520 y'all was having on bad turns. 0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:33.680 No, I don't. 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:35.479 I don't think, I mean, but at the same time, 0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:39.840 you know, hearsay and stuff like that can push it 0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.440 in that direction if you don't get like the real 0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.560 answer from the individual. And since there was a period 0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.120 where we weren't really in that much communication, you know, 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.720 they were probably englands of that kind of energy or whatever. 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.360 But once we actually did speak on the phone because 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.600 we were doing a good Burger sketch on the Tonight 0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.440 Show or whatever, you know, and we had to spoken 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.640 in years, you know what I'm saying, We knew we 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.120 had to like at least talk before we go perform 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:09.360 to each other. It was a two second reconciliation. 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:09.120 You know what I mean. 0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:12.319 It was like time had never gone by, basically, and 0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:16.279 it was it felt like such a blessing to me 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.560 and I feel like to him as well, you know, 0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.640 to have each other back in each other's lives, you 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.000 know what I mean, because we do work so well together, 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.360 and we had established, you know what I mean, something 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.960 so beloved that it would be a crime to kind 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.880 of just let it go into the wind just because 0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:35.520 you know, we wanted, you know, individual career identities. 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:35.359 Kind of thing. 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.640 You know, we didn't always want to be just Keenan 0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:40.799 and Kell, Like my name is Keenan Thompson and his 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:42.719 name is cal Mitchell, you know what I'm saying, And 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.080 like not a lot of people were willing to recognize 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.279 that at the time. So that's kind of like where 0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:50.799 that drift apart started happening. And then, you know, as 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:54.040 life does, you know, like different experiences are happening, so 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.120 it just takes you and then you the next thing, 0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.239 you look up and we haven't spoken in seven years 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:02.239 or something crazy like that or whatever. It was, so 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.600 for us to reconcile and do the Good Burger sketch 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:08.040 that was six seven years ago something like that. 0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:09.839 That was really really nice, and. 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.040 Then that was sparked a Good Burger too. 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:14.239 That's kind of sparked like, yo, I think we need 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.040 to do this, and they were going to do a cartoon, 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:18.319 and it was like, I think you should do the 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.400 movie first and then do the cartoon. Like everybody's been 0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:23.279 kind of asking for a sequel since the first one 0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:24.920 kind of thing. It's like, if you're going to get 0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.000 back into that world, might as well do the second, 0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:28.560 especially if we hear you know what I'm saying, and 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:30.920 we're young enough to like still do it with a 0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:32.400 passion and this, that and the other and try to 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:35.080 make a good movie. So you know, luckily we were 0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.120 able to like put it together and like get it 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.680 green Lid. Shot it in Rhode Island, like thanks to 0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.520 artists for artists, and like my business partner, you know, 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.439 Johnny Ryan, who's from there, and. 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:45.800 Like that's your production company. 0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.439 Yeah, got a bunch of like you know whatever tax 0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.600 credits to make the budget make sense. And it was 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.799 good for me because it was right up the street, you. 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:55.160 Know what i mean. 0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.000 And my girls were in school till late June or 0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:00.160 something like that, so they were able to take to 0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:01.640 train up on the weekend, you know what i mean, 0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:04.080 as opposed to like having to shoot it in the 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:05.640 middle of nowhere or something like that. 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.920 So it all became you know, a good positive thing. 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.680 And then we actually made something that people enjoyed, you 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:13.600 know what I'm saying, And then it broke records, you know. 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.759 Paramounts plus his most watched original film. 0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:20.200 Ever ever, you know what I'm saying, Like several weeks 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.799 of number one, this, that and the other, so like 0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:24.719 it was it was all very positive, and it was 0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.239 positive for our company because it was like we make 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.640 a history too, took the first Paramount movie, the Rhode 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.000 Island kind of thing, you know what I mean. 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:31.879 So it was just like. 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:36.080 All, you know, all around really good and then also 0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.959 setting up as the you know, the Kenan and Killed 0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:42.319 world continues to grow now, you know what I'm saying, 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.120 because we know we can go work on this project. 0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.200 You know, if he got a project, he can go 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:48.399 do it. If I got a project, I. 0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:49.040 Can go do it. 0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:51.360 But if we come together and do something, we know 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.919 it's going to be like pretty dynamic. So that that's 0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.719 a beautiful thing, you know, because we laid a lot 0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.759 of track work early as opposed to like having to 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:02.719 figure it out middle. 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.320 Ages the cartoon's happening. 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:06.359 I don't know. 0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.279 I think there's an opportunity to do even the third 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:11.640 one before we do the cartoon, you know what I'm saying, 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.239 Just because the second one did so well, you can 0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:17.520 continue that world and keep on keep on getting it, 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:17.920 you know. 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:19.600 Absolutely. I wanted to ask you one thing. 0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:22.359 Man, he was on Stephen Colbert Show, and you said 0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:26.720 that Seinfeld said, you told Seinfeld the old Colbert apology 0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:27.800 for what. 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:33.000 On that episode of Comedians and Cars that Colbert did 0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:38.600 with Seinfeld. Seinfeld was like, it was just a bit 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:40.920 that I wanted to do for the sake of doing bits, 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:43.800 So it wasn't even really that serious. But Seinfeld was 0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:47.040 saying like his show about getting coffee was way less 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:50.560 stressful than colbert show, which is like obvious, but to me, 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:55.920 it was like kind of like minimalizing Colbert's dedication, you 0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.719 know what I mean. He's one of the most highly dedicated, intelligent, 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.080 absolute formers that we have and the fact that he 0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.640 does it, you know, should be showing a little more 0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:04.560 respect kind of thing. 0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:06.000 But I was just talking ship. 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:11.480 Starting trouble between the white men. But it worked. 0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:15.480 All right. Well, we appreciate you. 0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.600 Man, get his new book When I was your age 0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.560 life lessons, funny stories and questionable parenting advice from a 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.560 professional clown, And thank you for joining us. 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.279 Put the glasses back on that, you know what I'm saying. 0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.919 Thank you for having me man. Y'all need a guest chair. 0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:30.120 Do you do waking baking? 0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:34.719 Guess we are Jesse Larry and starts on Monday. Right, 0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.560 We're gonna have the new set up she got a 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.960 different that's gonna be for the for the guests. Yeah, 0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:42.719 I came right before that. 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.279 You look at you actually could have been the first 0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:48.319 if you wanted to. You can bake in the morning. 0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:50.560 Who's that waken? Bake smoking, we eeding early? 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:51.520 I don't know nothing about that. 0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:53.480 Okay, we're trying to hurt your kids. 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:54.120 Sponsors now and. 0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:54.600 All that, right. 0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.440 I mean, you know, sponsors are you know, easy to 0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.359 talk to, especially when you go and get in front 0:46:59.400 --> 0:46:59.600 of them. 0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:01.359 Is like, man, I don't know what he was talking about. 0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:03.480 Little drugs. 0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:05.120 You know, he might he drinks early in the morning, 0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:07.840 but he's just talking. 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:09.200 Man. We keep everything legal. 0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.840 Kenan Thompson, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that 0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.680 answer up in the morning for Breakfast Club.