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Speaker 1: Take a deep brown in through your nose. Holds it.

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Speaker 2: Now, release slowly again deep in haale hold release, repeating

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Speaker 2: internally to yourself as you connect to my voice. I

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Speaker 2: am deeply, deeply well. I am deeply well, I am deeply.

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Speaker 1: Wow. I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land on

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Speaker 1: your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative,

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Speaker 1: and ready to expand in higher consciousness and self care.

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Speaker 1: This is where we heal, this is where we become.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this show, y'all. It's been a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: She's been having a European summer, and now we are

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Speaker 1: back in beautiful, sunny Los Angeles. It is a gorgeous

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Speaker 1: day today. I am excited for today's episode. I have

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Speaker 1: been looking forward to this episode four months. Today's episode

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Speaker 1: is a celebration of creativity, cultural legacy, and multi dimensional expression.

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Speaker 1: We are multi facined, y'all. We're joined by a radiant

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Speaker 1: for whose artistry defies traditional categories and who reminds us

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Speaker 1: that healing, storytelling, and spiritual connection can happen across mediums.

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Speaker 1: Cameroon born actor, singer, songwriter, anne chef Andy Allo is

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Speaker 1: a true creative powerhouse. You may know her as Nora

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Speaker 1: captured hearts with her grounded, soulful performance, or as Lieutenant

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Speaker 1: in the Bad Batch. But Andy's brilliance doesn't stop it acting.

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Speaker 1: culinary venture a Kona, She's redefining camera rooney and fine dining.

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Speaker 1: Her recent Los Angeles pop up featured ancestral dishes reimagined

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Speaker 1: For Andy, cooking is more than a skill, it's a

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Speaker 1: creative lineage. With a New York City pop up on

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Speaker 1: the horizon and the final season of Upload premiering later

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Speaker 1: this year, Andy continues to evolve and to inspire. Today,

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Speaker 1: she joins us to talk about creativity as healing, ancestral

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Speaker 1: connection through food, and the courage it takes to chart

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it. Welcome to the show, Andy. Wow.

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Speaker 3: I need a copy of that and take it in

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Speaker 3: in Wow. Thank you to have you here.

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Speaker 4: I'm truly truly honored to be here. This is such

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: So, And also, thank you so much for coming to

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Speaker 1: on that special day. It was like big vibes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I remember I was literally so I love Upload.

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Speaker 1: I watch Upload, big fans, That's so cool. I was like,

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Speaker 3: So I'm watching.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching, and then like, as I was watching, I

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Speaker 1: So I have so many questions, and I think something

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Speaker 1: there was this thing that I think some he said

438
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Speaker 1: that summed it up really beautifully where he said, you know,

439
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: if you force it, if you force your will, yeah,

440
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: like sometimes God will still allow it to happen, yeah,

441
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: but there won't be grace for it. And I thought

442
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: about that especially in relations to like alignment and ease

443
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: and purpose, because so many times in my life, right,

444
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: like especially if you go off what society says, which

445
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: is like you don't want it, if it's easy, or

446
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: like don't take you for an answer, keep plowing forward,

447
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: and so many of us operate in that way and

448
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: like block everything, yeah, because it's not supposed to be

449
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: like hard fought, you know. And it's like, yeah, you

450
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: might break through and win, right, you might do what

451
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: you said you're going to do, but like there's no

452
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: grace for it. There's no ease, there's no alignment, there's

453
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: no synchronicity that comes in to light the path. And

454
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: it's like when you do find that feeling, it's just

455
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: it's indescribable. It's the shifter of your life. It changes

456
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: how all the energy moves in your body and in

457
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: the world and in the work that you do so

458
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: even you know, in speaking to the alignment and really,

459
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: and I'm highlighting this because it really.

460
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: Is so special and cool.

461
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: It's like for that first experience to be the three

462
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: star Micheline experience. Right.

463
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: For all the.

464
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 1: Ways that you describe this new path, you're having a

465
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: very spiritual experience. It is a spiritual practice. And so

466
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: take me into the intention behind a Kona and the

467
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: pop ups and like the way you are really blending

468
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: that spiritual creative fire with the food you're creating and presenting.

469
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

470
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, My word for this year is trust. And each

471
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: year I try to pick a word. Last year was

472
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 4: celebration and opulence.

473
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: Okay, girl, I love opulence. Yes, I I want an

474
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: opulence year. We are going for luxury, yes.

475
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: And so this year was trust and and I feel

476
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: like I've been invited into that over and over again

477
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 4: and reminded of like how can I trust? And I

478
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: got the opportunity to have my pop up at a

479
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: restaurant called De Bistro And it was at the restaurant

480
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: that I finished my culinary training in and the owner

481
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: of the restaurant was like, do a pop up here?

482
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: You know, and again like I'm new. This is I've

483
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 4: been doing the cheffing culinary for a year a year

484
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: and a half, so it's I'm a baby, you know.

485
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: And there was so much trust and ease of like, oh, okay,

486
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 4: you trust me enough to do this. And I also

487
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: trust God enough that if I'm being given it, I

488
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: must be ready even if I don't feel like I am,

489
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: and I just have to leap because I'll learn so much.

490
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: And I did and I did, and it was incredible.

491
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 4: I got to witness, you know, the experience of sharing

492
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: Cameronian food with We had one hundred about one hundred

493
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: people that came that night.

494
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: And I was walking.

495
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 4: When I walked around and talking to different people, they

496
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: were sharing how they.

497
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: Would taste something.

498
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: And I would say probably ninety eight percent of the

499
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 4: people that came through hadn't had Cameronian before and and

500
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: but they were all taken back to something when I

501
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: was asking like.

502
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: What do you know, what do you like?

503
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: Like what came through or whatever, and and they all

504
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: were like, oh my gosh, I was taken to this memory.

505
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 4: Even some of the Cameroonians that came by, they were like,

506
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 4: I was taken to this day in my life eating

507
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 4: this dish and.

508
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: It was just like that.

509
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: That's why I do this. It's it's a spiritual experience.

510
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: It's immersive and and it's like a bond. It's bonding

511
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 4: in a bonding experience. And it just brought me so

512
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: much joy, like fulfilled me in such a deep way.

513
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: And okona is means love in my dad's native language,

514
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: a wing and uh it's it's been really cool just

515
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: to share that love and have that come through.

516
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, ah, really special.

517
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: I can't for you to try it. I can't wait, Yeah,

518
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 3: I can't wait. I mean, what do you mean? What

519
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: should you be cooking right now? I know, honestly, let's

520
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: just go.

521
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: Let's just get yes, okay, So now I'm going to

522
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: switch gears because you were discovered by Prince.

523
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: First of all, what I know.

524
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: What Prince is an artist who has defied all genre?

525
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeh right, like yes, all genre.

526
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: Like a true being of his own right, Like there

527
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: there was no blueprint for a prince that kind of

528
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: creative energy like that's that is a hurricane like that,

529
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, big big energy. So first, I mean,

530
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: what is that experience even like if princes like you?

531
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, you know, like, yeah, not hilarious. What yeah,

532
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: I mean I think about that time and it's surreal.

533
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: You know, I was twenty one, twenty two and it

534
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: just what a yeah, what a whirlwind. Yeah, And that's

535
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: I think it's just solidified so many principles, right, the

536
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: principle of being the like a consummate creative and just

537
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 4: letting whatever is meant to flow, allowing it to flow

538
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: through you in whatever form, not trying to control it.

539
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: He truly embodied being a vessel. Wow, there was no

540
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 4: there was no.

541
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: Block, It just like flowed.

542
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 4: And so getting to experience that, and.

543
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: Can you give me more description around that? Yeah, like

544
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: what did the witnessing of that?

545
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 2: Right?

546
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: Being that open to your channel to your creation. Like

547
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I think about that exact mechanism you're talking about a

548
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: lot when it comes to the great masters that have

549
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: lived on Earth in various you know mediums. What what

550
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: did that look like up close?

551
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 4: A lot of sleepless nights, so just like creating, creating,

552
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 4: Like you'd wake up and you know, you get there

553
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: and you'd be like, Okay, I wrote a new song,

554
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: and like when I went to bed at like one

555
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: in the morning, it's now like ten, how do you

556
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 4: have a new song?

557
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 3: When did you? When did you? And when did you sleep?

558
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: You know, but you have full energy, like you are

559
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 4: so present and like vibrant. It's not I feel like

560
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 4: if And obviously I was living on that schedule and

561
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: I was fine, But I don't think I could do

562
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: that schedule today. I'd be like, listen, I need a nap.

563
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: Just I don't operate like that. But I think he

564
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 4: it energized him so much to create that way and

565
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: it and it was almost like it.

566
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: Needed to come out. He couldn't contain it.

567
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: It needed it needed to be expressed or else it

568
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: would start to like build up or like be blocked.

569
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: And I think there's a balance to it, you know.

570
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: I think there's moments in my life where I have

571
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: a similar experience where like, oh, this this has to

572
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: get out, or I'll I'll think about a dish and

573
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I got to write this like crazy

574
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 4: dish down that reimagines, you know, a Cameroonian delicacy or something.

575
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, I got to write it down so I

576
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: don't forget, you know. I think we all have moments

577
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: of like like that, And I think that's so beautiful.

578
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would want it to be NonStop.

579
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: If I'm being honest, I hear you, you know, I

580
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: like say, I like, I like rest and and so

581
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 4: I think witnessing it was really beautiful and so inspiring.

582
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: But I also got to see how gosh, it's just

583
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: tiring it can be, and and not knowing when to

584
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: rest or saying like okay, that's enough, you know, or

585
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 4: like how do I close the channel?

586
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: You know?

587
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 4: I think there's a I think there's a balance to it.

588
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 4: But I'm grateful that he didn't close the channel because

589
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: he's not here with us anymore, and and so that

590
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 4: way he was able and maybe there was some part

591
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: of him that knew I was that he wasn't going

592
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 4: to be here for a long time.

593
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 3: And so it was like I got to get this out.

594
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 4: And I think there's a lot of artists who aren't

595
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: here anymore that you just.

596
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: There was something that need.

597
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had to like get it out and get

598
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: it out, and and I feel the spirit knows, you know.

599
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 4: So I say all that because I don't want when

600
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 4: people I'm talking about princes like just ability to flow.

601
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: What what I don't want people to take from that

602
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: is like, well, I'm not like that there's something wrong

603
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 4: with me or I ah, I need to attain that.

604
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: And I think it's a balance, you know. I think

605
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: it's allowing each of our experiences to be what they're

606
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 4: meant to be and that we all have a part

607
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: and on our creativity flows in its own way, and

608
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 4: that's what we need to find. He found his right,

609
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 4: and I think and I had to learn that because

610
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: I was I was so young, so I saw him

611
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 4: as a mentor and I wanted to emulate that and

612
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 4: was like, that's what I need to attain and I

613
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: really had to learn Wait a minute, that is so beautiful,

614
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: but what's mine?

615
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: Yeah?

616
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: How does how does creativity show up for me? And

617
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: that's what's beautiful, you know. And and whenever you're if

618
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 4: you're trying to become someone else or do their thing,

619
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 4: and I feel like you hear this all.

620
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: The time, right, like what's your voice? What's your unique quality?

621
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: And you can be.

622
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 4: Inspired by someone who's founders and taps into it, but

623
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 4: don't try to be like, oh, I'm just going to

624
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: be you, right, you know. It's like, no, that's so inspiring. Now,

625
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: now find yours? What is your thing? How does creativity

626
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 4: show up for you? How how does it look when

627
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: you are in flow?

628
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: What is that?

629
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 4: And then share that with the world so someone else

630
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 4: can be inspired by that, because if we're all trying

631
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 4: to be like Prince or be in flow and creative

632
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: like him, and like, that's not the tapestry of God,

633
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 4: it's the tap is to me, the tapestry of God

634
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: is so varied, it's beautiful. There's so many threads, it's

635
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 4: it's colorful, it's a vibrant the different textures. That's what

636
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: makes this world beautiful.

637
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, deeply. And it's like, don't don't block your unique

638
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: channel and creativity by trying to one definitely compare it

639
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: to anything else, but by also making the mistake of

640
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: thinking that it has to be big and loud and.

641
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 3: Popular and any of the other things that you think

642
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: judging it.

643
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, to give us the real desire to create something,

644
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: you know.

645
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: And it's like I just think a lot of that

646
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: of that phrase, like creation for creation's sake, because so

647
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: many of us don't create because the first thing is, well,

648
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: will it be a big deal? And if I can't

649
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: guarantee it'll be a big deal. I don't want to

650
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: begin or will it make me a lot of money

651
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: or get me attention? And if I can't be certain

652
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: of that, I'm not even going to start it. And

653
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I think, especially as we're yeah,

654
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: throughout this conversation really tying creation to creator and it

655
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: being this kind of divine spiritual experience, it's like you

656
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: also have to trust when you have gifts or a

657
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: call to create, that it does not matter if you're

658
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: even here when people receive it. Yeah, Like that is

659
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: the truth of creation that I think sometimes is hard

660
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: to reckon with because we're in society and you're trained,

661
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: and you know, we want to be seen and all

662
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: the things and reap the benefits. But it's like sometimes

663
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: you're a Picasso and you just spend your whole life

664
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: elevated and you know, having the fruits of your tree, right,

665
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: and then you know, sometimes you're the Van Goh and

666
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: it's lonely, yeah, and it's confusing, and you just keep creating,

667
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: but you are like, am I failing? And you leave

668
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: earth and you don't know, But then look right, and

669
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: it's always an active service creation, So whether it pops

670
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: up off for you, or you were just called to

671
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: create it for whenever it's meant to be known, right,

672
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: the sacredness of it is enough.

673
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I love that. It makes me think about

674
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 4: this past or weekend. A couple of weekends ago, I

675
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 4: went on a hike and I like to go on

676
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: God dates. Oh I love it.

677
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: Tell me more so, I was on a date. I

678
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: was on a date with.

679
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 4: God and we went for a hike.

680
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: Do you understand how much I love this. We've never

681
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,959
Speaker 1: talked about this, but literally I flirt with.

682
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: God all day. No, I'm always like sky Daddy, like.

683
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: I see you, I feel you, Like I'm literally looking

684
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: at this and I'm like, stop flirting.

685
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: Right, like you are too much. But I like it.

686
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: Tell me are yes, Oh that's that makes me so happy.

687
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go on dates with God. And this particular

688
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 4: one was a hike. So went on this hike together

689
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: and I'm just going on this hike in Malibu and

690
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: it's one I do often. But I decided to take

691
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: a different path coming back around and I turned like

692
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 4: a corner and I couldn't see where the rest of

693
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 4: it went, and I audibly like said out loud, and

694
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 4: I kind of stepped back and I was like, oh,

695
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: I don't know where this goes. And it then it

696
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 4: was silence, and then I just started laughing and I

697
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: almost and I was like, like God and I were

698
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: laughing together. And then the thought that came in my

699
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 4: head was like, of course, I don't know where it goes.

700
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 3: I don't know where anything goes.

701
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: I don't know where any of this is going. Like

702
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 4: thanks God, You're right, Yeah, duh, that's the point. That's

703
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: the point is to trust take the path. I'm always

704
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 4: with you and I'm on this, so go. I keep going,

705
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: and then it bends again and now I can kind

706
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: of see a little bit more and I'm like, oh, okay.

707
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 4: And as I keep walking, I hear this message. And

708
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: oftentimes I feel like in the silence and nature when

709
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 4: I'm on God dates, I spend time talking, but I also.

710
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: Spend time listening.

711
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 4: And this phrase came through that was I will always

712
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 4: deliver you whole. I will always deliver you whole, and

713
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 4: everything in me just calm down. I was like, Okay,

714
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 4: I don't.

715
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: Know where this goes.

716
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: I don't know where this culinary dream and cheffing is going.

717
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: I don't know where my acting career or you know,

718
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 4: will music? Will I get back into music and release

719
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 4: you know, another album? I don't know, well, will I

720
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: become a farmer?

721
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: Or you know? Yeah, who knows?

722
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: I don't know where this goes. And I am somebody

723
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 4: who loves to know. Oh, I love to know. I

724
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: just and this year of trust, the year of trusting,

725
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, I just continually have to say

726
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 4: I don't know, and and I'm excited about that, you know,

727
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 4: like rather than like, ooh, I don't know where this goes.

728
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 4: And that was such a good lesson for me of

729
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: in those moments, that fork in the road where I

730
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: don't know where something goes.

731
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: How am I meeting that moment?

732
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Yes?

733
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 4: Do I meet it with excitement and with anticipation and

734
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 4: with trust and saying ooh God, surprise me what you

735
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 4: got in store? Or am I like mmmm, I don't know,

736
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 4: I don't you know?

737
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: And I think and.

738
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: It's like, get that the energy has to be just

739
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 4: not like nice and welcoming, like keeping the the soil fertile,

740
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 4: you know, for that yes, juicy, yeah, yuh me right,

741
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 4: I love that.

742
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: I love that in the deepest way and without having

743
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: the same language as you. I like that is so

744
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: deeply very much how I approach like my life and

745
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: my days. And I feel like something I say to

746
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: myself a lot. And I was thinking about this too,

747
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: just because I think everybody is always so consumed with dating.

748
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: That is what I've.

749
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Discovered since my divorce, and it like, it's it's hard

750
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: for me.

751
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: It drives me crazymes just.

752
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: How much women talk about men, Like I just feel

753
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: like there is just so much kind of like energy

754
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: output and not the most rewarding way. Like it's this

755
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: psychoanalyzing constantly. It's this like again wanting to quantify something

756
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: or understand it beginning middle and end instantaneously, right, And

757
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: it's like, if we could give some of that energy,

758
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: if more women could give some of that longing. And

759
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with having that. We're all deserving a wonderful, beautiful,

760
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: you know, whatever kind of way life looks for each

761
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: of us that feels the most nourishing. We're deserving of

762
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: whatever that is. Right, But like, I feel that if

763
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: people could give more of that lonely longing to God

764
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: and making it fun with God, right, like making it

765
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: really like spiritual foreplay, like moving through the world like

766
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: I moved through the world expecting to be surprised and

767
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: to be in awe of God every day, you know,

768
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: and even talking to God in that way.

769
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: And yeah, just like you're you know.

770
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: To say you go on dates with God? Right, Like

771
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: that is so special and it's like if we could

772
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: move in that kind of conversation with God, yeah, every

773
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: day and and take in the sun ray and let

774
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: it fuel you like you just got handed rose or

775
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, just all the ways that God does show

776
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: up for us really romantically and divinely and measurably.

777
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 3: That was the right word.

778
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's just it's it's it's such a special

779
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 6: shift for spiritual women to look to meet that need

780
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 6: with the love of God.

781
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 4: Right and and why not that love and the love

782
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 4: that is so pure, so rich and limitless, limitless and

783
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 4: has no conditions, zero condition It's there, It's there, it's available,

784
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: and it's vast.

785
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 3: Oh like loving God is romantic.

786
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like sometimes like God takes my breath away in

787
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: a way.

788
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 4: That I want to be like, oh, yes, excuse me, right, Like, honestly,

789
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't know how anyone can compete.

790
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 3: But and that's not the point, right, You're just.

791
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: Like, well, right, well you know, but then it's like, yeah,

792
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 5: getting to experience God through others, and but but I

793
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 5: can only do that if I am spending time with

794
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 5: the og.

795
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah you know.

796
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and I know what it's like to date

797
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 4: God and in that embodies limitlessness.

798
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, and that fills me up.

799
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, you know. It's so funny. Like I

800
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: recently kind of like allowed myself to move out of

801
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: something and this like I was taking a walk and

802
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: I was just like really appreciating the opportunity to have

803
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: small moments with nature. It's something I'm really looking to

804
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: invite into my life. Like every chance I get, I'm like, no,

805
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going to drive to CBS, I'll walk, or

806
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to drive to this walk. And so

807
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: I was walking, I was taking all that in and

808
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: kind of reflecting on what had just passed and the

809
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: thing that came to me the words I just kept saying,

810
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: my eyes are on God, like, my eyes are on

811
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: God like, I don't really feel called to put my

812
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: eyes or attention on anything of man. My eyes are

813
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: on God right now, you know, and like surrendering into

814
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: that feeling that God's nourishment, God's courting of my soul

815
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: and of my spirit is so sufficient and honestly, given

816
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: my schedule in my life, like it's more than I

817
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: need right now, that is the need filled. So yeah, anyway,

818
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: thank you so much for that beautiful practice because it's

819
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: I think it's just such a blessing and I think

820
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: it is a part on the journey of consciousness for

821
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: so many of us that I found that that is

822
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: where we arrive when we're really in an embodied state,

823
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: but there is like a lot of congruency in how

824
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: our parts are meeting each other. We tend to land

825
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: in this new, beautiful, fertile.

826
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 7: Catch totally, yes, yes, deeply, well.

827
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 8: Okay, so upload, yes, we're moving into the final season

828
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 8: and now this show in particular. You know, it's such

829
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 8: a unique perspective on the after life, on the digital soul.

830
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 8: It's so aligned right as we talked about with the

831
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 8: timing of now, I'm so curious, you know, being a

832
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 8: deep thinker, being a deep feeler when you're working with

833
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 8: these kind of archetypes, right that just naturally thinking about

834
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 8: that all day is going to expand it's going to

835
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 8: bring in companion experiences, you know, different kinds of experiences.

836
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 8: Has working on this show shifted at all your own

837
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 8: spiritual beliefs or has it sparked any new questions for you?

838
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 3: Oh?

839
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 4: Oh that's good. H It's definitely changed me. I mean

840
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 4: it's been the last six seven years of my life

841
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 4: working on this show. And I think when I came

842
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 4: into it, I wasn't as spiritual as I am today.

843
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: And I think this show really opened me up around, Yeah,

844
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 4: what is life after death and consciousness and having those

845
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 4: bigger questions and defining for myself what is my spirituality

846
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 4: and what is my relationship with God? Just for me,

847
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 4: not based on anyone else or what other people say

848
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: or what their relationship is.

849
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: What is mine?

850
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 4: And I think the show brought up a lot of

851
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 4: those questions. And Nora struggles with that too, you know,

852
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 4: because she was raised in a more traditional sense and

853
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: even her dad, you know, is like, I'm going to

854
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 4: heaven to meet Mom. I'm not uploading, you know, and

855
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: she was like, no, but if God created everything, then

856
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 4: God created ai. God created it, and so why not

857
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 4: It's interesting use what God gave us, right, you know,

858
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 4: and there's this conversation and dance I think with her,

859
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 4: and and also being like, wow, can I love somebody

860
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 4: who's here but not here? And and what is love?

861
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: You know?

862
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 4: Is love meaning I tangibly need to have you? Or

863
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 4: is love just the act of I see you? And

864
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 4: I am appreciative of the time and the experiences that

865
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 4: we get to share because I may not have you

866
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 4: and you won't right really, the reality is we won't

867
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 4: have each other. Even if you're with someone in the flesh,

868
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 4: you're not going to have them forever. So it's like

869
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 4: how it Yeah, I mean, the show really brings up

870
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: a lot of questions.

871
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: Because I'm like, even you talking right now, I'm like, gosh.

872
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: It kind of conflicts with the understanding of impermanence because

873
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: I lean into in permanent so often, or like detachment

874
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: from outcomes so often in my journey to like surrender

875
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: to the unknown, and you know, this belief of like

876
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: don't grip anything, just like be ready to let it

877
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: all go, yeah, at a moment's notice. And then it's

878
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: like on this show, it's like it's quite interesting because

879
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: it's like, well, aren't we all living forever anyway?

880
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: Right?

881
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: In a spiritual soul.

882
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then.

883
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, wait, are you gripping too tightly to

884
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: this identity of you on earth as this personality mploading.

885
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 3: Right, And you're like you can't let go.

886
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 4: But then on the other side and you're like, oh,

887
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 4: I get to upload and I can be anything I want.

888
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 4: I can do anything. I could learn to speak a

889
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 4: language like that, because you're just it's code and that

890
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 4: can be exciting. But then it's like, yeah, yeah, what

891
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 4: is it impeding my you know, spiritual growth or my

892
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 4: soul's journey in some way?

893
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know.

894
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: Is it it's well we ever know anything?

895
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 3: No, we don't know. It is the whole point. We don't.

896
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 3: We don't know what is it? Yeah? Okay, So.

897
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Speaker 1: Why are we at the end of the show already?

898
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, Oh my gosh, I'm not ready for it

899
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 3: to end.

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Speaker 1: I'm already There's so many more things, you know, I

901
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: think I as a woman right now, as a woman

902
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: right now, how how are you feeling on Earth in

903
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: your life? And what practices are you utilizing to really

904
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: keep yourself upright and to keep yourself feeling open and

905
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: creative even amidst you know, quite confusing, highly energetic, divisive times.

906
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:17,479
Speaker 4: Yeah that's good. I knew you were about to come

907
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 4: through with something.

908
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: She's about to lean in, I said, okay, let.

909
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: Me just.

910
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: Deep deep deep deep.

911
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

912
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 4: How am I keeping myself upright? I mean some days

913
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 4: I don't, if I'm being completely honest. I think there's

914
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: days where I allow myself to fall short or or

915
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 4: crumble a bit because it is a lot.

916
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 3: And I think it's.

917
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 4: Those allowing allowing myself to feel everything and not be like,

918
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 4: well I need to let me get over it, or

919
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 4: I need to be strong, or I need to no. No,

920
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 4: It's like, I think, how I keep myself upright is

921
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 4: allowing myself to feel whatever is coming up. I don't

922
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 4: remain there.

923
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: I let it pass through me.

924
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: But if I'm like.

925
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: Today, I need a little more rest, I feel it.

926
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 4: There's some things off. I just need to sleep longer.

927
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: Than I thought I want.

928
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 4: I wanted to my plan, you know, was I wanted

929
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 4: to get up at this time, and I'm like, I can't.

930
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm tired.

931
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 4: Something is weighing on me and I just need to

932
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: rest today. Listening to that it means and I don't

933
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 4: want to say I'm not good at this, but I'm

934
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 4: working on it of being more vulnerable and saying, hey,

935
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: I'm going through a hard time. I could use a

936
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 4: little more support today. So I think inviting people in

937
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 4: so I'm not always the strong one or I'm not

938
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 4: always the happy or the zen of the whatever one,

939
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 4: those identities that feel really good and like people aspire

940
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 4: to and like actually, I think just keeping it real,

941
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: being like, yeah, today's a tough day. Let me call

942
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 4: that person that I think has the capacity for me,

943
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 4: or asking like hey, i'm you up for a call

944
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 4: like I'm struggling today. That helps me get back upright

945
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 4: and God dates, going on dates with God, going on

946
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: dates with myself and really loving myself all the things

947
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: that I desire a partner to do. I date me

948
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 4: and do that for myself, and that's not easy. I

949
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 4: forget to do that for myself. And I think the

950
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 4: last thing I would say is outside of I think

951
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 4: I touched on community, but I would say connecting to

952
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 4: little Andy has been really helpful because most of the

953
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 4: stuff that comes up or fear is tied to you know,

954
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: what happened as a kid, or how my little kid

955
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 4: is viewing something and like before I came here today,

956
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 4: like I was spending time with ten year old Andy,

957
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 4: and you know, she she's.

958
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: She went through a lot.

959
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 4: But something she said was like I want to jump

960
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 4: on the trampoline before we go. That just popped in

961
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 4: my head of like, oh I want it, Like yeah, okay,

962
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 4: I can do that. I can do that for you,

963
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 4: because you didn't have a lot of that, you know

964
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 4: at that age. You know, at that age, I was

965
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 4: going through so much of like moving to another city

966
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 4: and then you know, it was like this year ten

967
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 4: to twelve thirteen where I moved to one place and

968
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 4: then I moved to America and it was just such

969
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 4: a time where I didn't have my footing. Yeah, and

970
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 4: I and I just and as a kid, you don't know.

971
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 4: You don't talk about not knowing, but you really don't

972
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 4: have the knowledge or the wording or how to process

973
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 4: what's happening around you. And so she needs so much

974
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 4: love and stability and fun and not so heavy stuffy.

975
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 4: So I think spending time with little Andy has been

976
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 4: really like connecting to being a kid again and just

977
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Speaker 4: being jumping on a trampoline.

978
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 3: I got like a little the little one that you

979
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: can put in your house and I just like literally

980
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 3: just went on.

981
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 4: There for like one minute and I was like, that

982
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 4: was fun.

983
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go. Yeah, you know, honoring that. Yeah, beauty ful?

984
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

985
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so much I want to, like I meditate

986
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 4: and this, you know, but it's like being in nature.

987
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 4: Even what you said, there's so many things your book, Yes,

988
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 4: thank you having gratitude. There's so many things out there.

989
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, those those things.

990
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: Work for me.

991
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. Thank you for just bringing so much

992
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: beauty to this episode, so much God to this episode,

993
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: so much light to this episode, so much fun, so

994
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: much creativity.

995
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. I mean I really love it. I

996
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 3: feel like we shouldn't think these shares. Can y'all hear this?

997
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: Okay, before we end this episode, I just have to

998
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: say we are cutting up.

999
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all can he trying to say

1000
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 3: so still because.

1001
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: Lead to Andy's chair for a second. If you would

1002
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: absolutely thank you? All right, millennials, what does this remind

1003
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: you of? Oh? What it is?

1004
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: What's up?

1005
01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: Can get in?

1006
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 3: Good God?

1007
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: And on that note, sacred fun, sacred fun, Yay, thank

1008
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. Thank you so much.

1009
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 3: This was amazing. We love you.

1010
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: Check out the final season Lord, help us have upload

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Speaker 1: Tuenna Kona is going to be popping up yes, and

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Speaker 1: your pellette. You can check out where can Everyone Find You?

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Speaker 4: Instagram?

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Speaker 3: I You Baby, We'll leave below.

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