1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Omar Dorsey is my guests on the show. He's a 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: familiar facing television and film Selma When They See Us, Django, Unchanged, Ray, 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Donovan Bones, Jeans, Rita Franklin. Omark currently stars as a 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: fan favorite Hollywood and Able Duvenets l a CP Award 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: winning show, Queen Sugar. Queen Sugar has been lauded for 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: his powerful portrayal of an African American family in the 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: Deep South. He can also be seen portraying the curiusmatic 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: and ever so stylish Freed on season two of Stars 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Power Book three, Raising Kine. Earlier this fall, again, Omar 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: will be reprising his role as Sheriff Barker and the 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: Halloween Ends The Ladies in starmin in bloom House produced 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Hollywood franchise. The film with premier in theaters on Friday, 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: October fourteen, justin time for the Holidays celebration. You don't 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: have to wait to see him, right, I got it 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: right here, y'all, the familiar face and all. Please work 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: with the money making conversations masterclass. The one and only 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Omar Dorsey. Thank you so much for that AFO Introductional 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: shog Well, you know I'm just chasing the O. You know, 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: a body of work should be recognized because I look 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: at sometimes we were just grinders. You know what I'm saying. 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: You're an entrepreneur. You know people he's an acting No, 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: he's an entrepreneur because he's building a business, building a career. 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: And when in the process of doing that, their peaks 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: in their valleys and there sometimes when you just you 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: just cry because you don't know chosen the right path. 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: Can you talk about some of your journey early on, because, uh, 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: when I was going through your resume, it was one 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: thing that stare that in two thousand and six, all 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: those beautiful credits I've read about it got names associated. 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: You did an episode of Entourage and it listened to 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: you as a young thug number one. That's that's that's 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: a credit. That's a credit. But that was two thousand six. 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk about when did it started turning after two 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: thousand and six. You know what, I came home as 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: I did Entourage and it was pretty good. It was 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: alright at a good time. I'd like to show a lot, 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: but I said, I don't want to play thugs anymore. 38 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: I want to play something my kids canna be very 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: proud of me, of right, sir. So Um, there there 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: have been times in my career where I stepped back 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: when I was like, you know what, let me figure 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: out exactly what the next phase of my career is 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: gonna be. If it takes time for me to do 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: whatever I need to do, um it takes six months 45 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: or a year, uh, then I will do it. And 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: just so I can be seen in a different light. 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: I didn't after that. I said, I don't want to 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: just play these nameless people or and it was a 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: pretty good role, you know, it was just it just 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: sucked that it was called that. You know what I'm saying, dude, 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: you don't know if this guy the young thug or whatever, 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: if he goes home to a wife and kids or 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: anything like that. But you know, about that time was 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: the time I just stepped back and I think I'm 55 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: gonna changed agencies and managements because I said I had 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: a bit it for myself that with much mrch much 57 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: further than just you know, playing big parts, right, I 58 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: got with an amazing manager. I got what I'm managing 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: wing with right now, frankn Zalez, who saw the fishing 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: right and he's you know omaro. I see what you're 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: trying to do, and you know, allow me to guide 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: you and take you to the next level. And you 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: know ever since then that we're gonn rocking and rolling. Yeah, 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: that's why, that's what I wanted to bring that moment up, because, 65 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: like I said, there are many moments we have in 66 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: your life and so but also you have to make 67 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: a decision because people will see you and keep pushing 68 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: you down in lane where they think you should be 69 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: at well they think you should go, and then you 70 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: have to realize that there's an unknown when you push 71 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: back that's not me. I don't you know the is 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm working, but I don't want to work like that. 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: What fear unknown? Did you? Did you have to introduce 74 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: your peer group around you? What support group did you 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: have or was it just you? Definitely my peer group. 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: You know, I have like a lot of friends who 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: are extremely successful. And even in two thousand and six, uh, 78 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: the guys who I wrote with, uh, there they were 79 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: getting it. They were getting it, and I was like, 80 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: we all started out together, and then no reason why 81 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: I should be lagging behind. And if we all started 82 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: at the same time, and even though I don't measure 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: my success by anybody else's. But I saw the opportunities 84 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: that were out there, and I didn't wanna drop the 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: ball and get into a rat race and just get 86 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: into like what I'm always playing, the same thing, getting pigeonholed. 87 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: Even now, as much as I do love playing Hollywood, 88 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go around and play something like Kenneth f 89 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Reed or I will go and play along and Harriet. 90 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: I'll do something different that's so different than what I'm playing, 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: because I don't want anybody to ever pigeonholed me into, 92 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: uh you know what they think I should be doing. 93 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm an active comes from the theater man. I'm used 94 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: to playing Othello or playing y'all go either one in. 95 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm used to doing August Wilson. I'm used to doing 96 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 1: Tom Stop Warning, Bird Off Brick and all these different things. 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: So it's like I didn't want to come into the 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: film and television game and just Okay, well he's a 99 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: big guy, he's dark skinned. Let's go and just make 100 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: him thug number. No. No, if I'm gonna be a 101 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: thug when the Medo Brown, absolutely there you go that 102 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: you initial to kill them at the end of that 103 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: they had sequel to three or four. They have several 104 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: sequels now all the money. I didn't mention the credit 105 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: there old mark that you had, but you're gonna bring 106 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: it out anyway. Because I hated you. I hated you. 107 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: I hated you and Harriet. I bore everybody hated me, yo, people, 108 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: would you know what for sure? I've never felt so 109 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: much literally all of my life, like personal like, oh 110 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: my god, you're a sellout, like amazing job. People are 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: writing our heads about me. I'll say, yo, I must 112 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: have been really good and you because me and Sound 113 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: both did django and it Sound was like, man, you 114 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: want up me on this one? Man? Because I think 115 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: you saw early uh viewing Government, he said the donna 116 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: hate despies you And that's what I said. That's what 117 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: I want. Man again, you love me again? Oh my goodness, 118 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: I would tell you something if you haven't seen this 119 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: the movie uh hollybood when you and increased the relationship 120 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: again in the acting scene with and Areta. You know 121 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: Genius series with Cynthia who started as was the lead 122 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: and Harriet and so that's what the great role is 123 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: about because we know you not a in that period 124 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: you know you and you go back there and you 125 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: accept the role and responsibility. But by the way, ain't 126 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: nobody gonna hate nobody more than Samy Yelle and Jango 127 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: on changed that that food. I would tell you something. 128 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: You know, we were doing the movie when he first 129 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: comes down the stairs right right, we're all in the line, 130 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: we're watching them, and Sam goes into that character. Everything 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: inside of me not to laugh because Sam was so 132 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: on the nose, never said anything like it. I was like, man, 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: he is showing up this scenery. He's ball man. I 134 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: was like, this is an actor lesson because he was 135 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: in the moment, he was in the character. Yeah, that's 136 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: he's my favorite actor of all time. That that that 137 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: dude right there. He was more white than he was black, 138 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: but he was more white. He was more of a 139 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: white slader than the slave holders. And they were like, 140 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: can you pull up, man, You don't treat them. You 141 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: treat them like this, You treat them. He forgot who 142 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: he was and that was that. I'm telling you, man, 143 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: that's like, uh, when we was shooting out, I was laughing. 144 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to laugh so hard because he was really 145 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: into that character so deep. Yes, but it was so 146 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: funny because it was so outrageous but and it was. 147 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, so it's a couple of characters like that, 148 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: like I think Mr. And Color Purple is pretty attrocious, sup. 149 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: But he has a redemption at the end. But you 150 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: know you had no re Yeah no, oh my oh 151 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: you ain't get no redemption and Harry you get Mr. Yes, yes, 152 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: But we'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations 153 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making 154 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. That's a beautiful part of you. 155 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'll reading the credits, you know, Selma 156 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: Ray Donovan which I loved you and Ray Donovan and 157 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: things like that, bones all those bodies of work that 158 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: are available to African American talent. Now that we did, 159 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: I just I could say, man, probably about eight years ago, 160 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: all we had was reality shows with black people acting 161 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: in them on scripted shows. When did you start noticing 162 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: the opportunity was opening for better scripted series like you 163 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: on right now in Queen's Sugar, which is helmed by 164 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: Ava douven At, which is a you know, award winning 165 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: in double A c P uh series, when you start 166 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: seeing roles like they come your way, you went, wow, 167 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: we started to turn the corner for African American talent. 168 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: It was a year that It was a year that, 169 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: uh that that that that Jesus Lord, it was a 170 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: year that that that we came out. Ye Queen Sugar 171 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: came out, because Queen Sugar came out. Atlanta came out 172 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: the same year Nothing Insecure Mighty came out the year before. 173 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: So I saw the turn, and then the next year 174 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: the shot came out. I said, Okay, yeah, that's what 175 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: we look like. This is exactly what we look like 176 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: in my regular life. It's not everybody's not drug there 177 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: was everybody's our basketball players. Everybody's not reality stars, you know, no, Like, 178 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: these are regular people living regular lives. That's how ninety 179 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: nine percent of people who are I know, not the 180 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: people who are like zillionaires, but the people even the 181 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: people who are famous actors or whatever. Man, we all 182 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: live the same way that we live on the Shy 183 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: on Queens Sugar, on Atlanta or Insecure. It's the same thing, 184 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: and we finally get to receive the reflection. It was 185 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: those two years, man, it was two thousand fifteen in 186 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, and I said, it wasn't the renaissance 187 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: of black um television, because renaissance means rebirth. It was 188 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: the birth black television. It's not just sitcoms. It's not 189 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: just us being silly or just and trust me, by 190 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: my favorite shows in the world, but the rest of 191 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: my my whole life have been safer. The Sun and 192 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: the Jeffersons. Absolutely, it's not all just sit comes. You know, 193 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: I'm funny, but I ain't that funny. I'm gonna be 194 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: able to be on nothing as good as like Red Fox, 195 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: uh uh Seanan Helmsley, you know. But I know that 196 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: I can act, and I know that I could bring 197 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: what I can bring to uh, you know, to drama 198 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: or even to to some drama. So it was those 199 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: It's fifth two thousand, two thousand sixteen, and I saw 200 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: the tire turn and I saw other shows coming up 201 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: behind it. It was great shows, even like a show 202 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: like This is Us, which is not particularly a black show. 203 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: But when you have Sterling and you have Susan you know, 204 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: who leaves of the show, then there you go, boom 205 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: this you see a black family week, you know. So um, yeah, 206 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: that's what it was, man um. It was that year 207 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: I think This is Us and QUENU came out the 208 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: same time, absolutely know, you know, me starring and Susan 209 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: a n each other for over twenty years, and and 210 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: we were all just very excited, like this is a 211 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: really great opportunity that we really get a chance to 212 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: show our chops and what we can do and sure 213 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: that we can you know, bring you can have a 214 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: fan base. So that those were the years. That's when 215 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: I saw the tire turn and it's never looked back. Man. 216 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: Now you look, you know, you look at all the 217 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: so many it's a plethora shows right now that that 218 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: that showed the black life. You look at ABD Elementary. 219 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: This is not particularly a black show, but it is 220 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: a black show absolutely created by the black woman. But 221 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: it's getting all the love, it's getting all the praise, 222 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, even before then, I think two thousand fourteen 223 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: and fifteen when Blackish came out and I was like, 224 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, this looks like my sam, you know what 225 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it was that happen. Yeah, yeah, I 226 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: appreciate that because of the fact that you're not talking 227 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: to oh my door, say if his face looks for 228 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's four sounds familiar salf when they see 229 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: us chain gonna change where we just laughed about what 230 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: starts sammyel Jackson and Jamie foxx Ray Donovan bones Genius 231 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: sent here. You know she started that movie as well 232 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: as Harriet, which we just talked about. The Retha Franklin 233 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: what you haven't seen that he plays Jane Cleveland role 234 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: in the in the Genius. Aretha Frankel was just on 235 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: that geo. By the way, now you you in this, 236 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: I think I call this a peach yourself serious, Queen Sugar, 237 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: because when you get this opportunity, you know, because we 238 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: all know that how these checks come in Hollywood, you 239 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: you work and then you don't know when you're gonna 240 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: work again. When you finally get a series, you can 241 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: kind of relax, but you only relax to see if 242 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna renew it. Then you can like, oh, okay, 243 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: they renewed it. Tell us about your role in Queens 244 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: Sugar and the difference that makes in your life, both 245 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: personally and what you're trying to do when you're trying 246 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: to change the narrative on how blacks have changed or 247 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: portrayed in television. Do you know it's a beautiful thing. Man. 248 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: I remember the day that I was to move into 249 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: Bahamas and it was Uh calls me, she says, oh, 250 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: my mother do a show called Queen Sugars me. It's 251 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: gonna be on the own network. And you know, I 252 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: just got fairs working with Oprah on something with Ava 253 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: And she said, she said, I want you to read 254 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: the script and you tell what you think about it. 255 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: I read the script, she said, read it. I wrot 256 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: the Hollywood. I read it. I was like, oh, this 257 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: is beautiful. I said, you want to play this role? 258 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: And I just come down. This is me coming out 259 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: for Ray Donovan, right, like you know, I Cookie Brown 260 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: playing one of the coldest dudes on television. Yeah, she 261 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, oh I want you to play this role. 262 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: Was a matter of fact, when when Ray Donovan was out, 263 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: many went out. Uh when out, She was like, I 264 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: liked right down and said you're great. After she said, 265 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: but I see something else for you. She told me that, 266 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: and I see something else. I don't want you to 267 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: always have to play you know this, that and the other. 268 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I feel you. I feel you. So 269 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 1: maybe three or four months later, she hits me with 270 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: that script and I Will said, why this is amazing, 271 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: this is I love it. So when I thought this 272 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: and Ford said no, no, no, no, no, no on 273 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: this sod wha she said, she said, I'm producing the 274 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: way over we will, I'm producing Oprah. We love you 275 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: so well, call your lawyers and do the deal. And 276 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: it's already a put series, which means it's already picked 277 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: up for thirteen episodes. So I went from like job, 278 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: the job, to like, wait, thirteen episode whoa? As a 279 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: series regularly, my whole life changed in that conversation, you know, 280 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: and it truly did. And and that's just the monetary thing. 281 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Playing Hollywood, playing Holly's worth day, so name the Hollywood. 282 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: It's changed my life so much, has changed my life 283 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: as a man because I'm saying these words to this 284 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: woman every day, and I'm saying. At first, I was like, man, 285 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: it's courting. Nobody thinks like this. Somebody talks like this, 286 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: I'll play it. But then then the character starts to 287 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: seep inside of me, and I found myself, uh, being 288 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: more like Hollywood on a daily basis because I was like, 289 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: this is how a man to treat this woman. This 290 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: is how a man should be in the community. This 291 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: is how a mansion treat his whole family. So I 292 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: feel like playing that role has changed me that much 293 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: and a change of perception on the type of actor 294 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: I am I see now, man, Like it's crazy like 295 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: the roles that I get now. You know, we're talking 296 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: about going from playing Thug number one to playing the 297 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: Sheriff and Halloween franchise, which is you know, also came 298 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: from my buddies who did that. He's bound a down 299 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: series I used to be on. But like a lot 300 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: of the stuff I get now, man, a lot most 301 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: of the things that I get now are these upstanding, 302 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, really great men. And I really appreciate that 303 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: because and I know that it came from Queen Sugar. 304 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: I know that. But I finished on a movie called 305 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: water Boys and playing with the young the young fellow 306 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: who's on Daily makes man um and I played his mentor. 307 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of streets stuff involved in it, 308 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: but I played his mentor who owns the who owns 309 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: the I T Company and own such a company shop 310 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: and all of this type of stuff. And I hired him. 311 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: But I'm like, the voice of reason throughout the movie. 312 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: And it's like, these are the roles that weren't really 313 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: offered to me before, a Queen Sugar. So even like 314 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: even with that land, it's just such a blessing. And 315 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: even the stuff I get because I don't have audition 316 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: a lot anymore, I just need these offers for these 317 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: amazing roles. Now, congratulations, it all comes from you know, 318 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: seven eight years ago when when when Abel calls me 319 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: in two thousand and fifteen, you know, Um asked me 320 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: to read this script. So yeah, we'll be right back 321 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: with more money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, 322 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. 323 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Let me tell you I'm talking to do I see, 324 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: classically trained and double a CP Award winning actor based 325 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: in the Atlanta, Georgia area called the Kata. During this 326 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: day down here, you know we're gonna transition a little 327 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: bit because I'm pretty sure you a sports enthusiast, you know, Okay, 328 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: you got the Falcons down here, you got the Hawks 329 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: down here, you got the Braids, Braids world champion front 330 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: Yard Georgia Bulldog got that. Okay? Cool? So so a 331 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: real bull Dog fan. Yes, okay cool. So so they're 332 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: gonna win it again, sir, Yes, okay cool? And five 333 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 1: people dropped into the first round defense last year. Hey man, 334 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: the boys right behind him and no, man, the boys 335 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: were playing a second. We got Carter coming in the 336 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: ring ring ring that he already young, and Carter both 337 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: and Um and Bowers. They all all Americans who not 338 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: with money. Now you know, well I bring it up 339 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: playing quarterback, right, you know absolutely Now when I when 340 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: I look at you, your your brand because I'm about 341 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: to transition to Hollywood. Halloween, you know, a series. You know, 342 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: that's what I love about your career, man, because of 343 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: the fact that hard work, consistency. You made a decision 344 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: to say, I don't want to do this. A lot 345 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: of people looked at you, go, hey man, you don't 346 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: want to work in the more in Hollywood. Just what 347 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: they seeing you said, that's not what I see in myself. 348 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: And then you working in an iconic horror series called 349 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: Halloween and you play a character that's a dignified character, yea, 350 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: not a thug. You know, you you on the other 351 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: side of the thug. You the police. You just share 352 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: anybody and you're working with the infamous Jamie Lee Curtis. 353 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: That's my sister. Curtis talk so much smack uh. You 354 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't even understand. This woman will talk. She talks so 355 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: much trash. I love her so much. And she is 356 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: so funny, she's so and she's just a throwback to 357 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: those women of the seventies and that. You know, she's 358 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: like one of those actresses. Man, But she can she's 359 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: still like she's still ripped up in amazing shape. Man. 360 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: She I love Jamie Lee with all my art. Man. 361 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: I love it. Because we didn't have any scenes in 362 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: the first one, so we kind of the second one. 363 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: She was like, ohmar I didn't get a chance to 364 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: talk to you, but I absolutely love your your acting. 365 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: I love everything that you do. I love what you 366 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: did in the hollyway. I was like, man, that's crazy 367 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: that I appreciate it. We only had one one or 368 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: two scenes in the first onete, so she saw the 369 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: whole thing put together. She was just so excited. She 370 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: loves it, man, and you know, we have a great time. 371 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: I love Jamie Lye without my heart. Well, you know 372 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: that that Bloomhouse resurrected the Praying you know, and I 373 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: can't wait till the areas again this fall October fourteen, 374 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: when you hit theaters again. Now, then you go over 375 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: to power book and like I said, and let's let's 376 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: talk about that a minute, because like you said, we 377 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: shone Now that I'm getting a diversity in my roles, 378 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't mind doing it. It's just part of your 379 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: portfolio or not. It's part of catchee. Now, so explain 380 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: to everybody what exactly what you mean what it is 381 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: is this like, okay, so I played I play uh 382 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: Cardier for ree Car Cardier donce free. Um, and you 383 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: don't know he's a very mysterious character. Um. You know, 384 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: we only only episode three right now, so he's just 385 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: just getting a little drops of what he's doing. But 386 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: episode four, it's gonna go, um is what it goes 387 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: on the way up? Um, you know, you have to 388 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: start to see a little bit of what he is 389 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: and who he like, like how he moves around and 390 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: he's in the music business, but he's also in the 391 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: art world. He's do some other things too. But you 392 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: don't even know that. You really wuldn't even understand all. 393 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: You know, It's like he's a mysterious character who's um, 394 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, uh, he's a man of mystery. That's all. 395 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, where's the most impeccable suits? And and and 396 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: I think the last episode I just came out yesterday. 397 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: I was speaking, I was speaking that speech I was. 398 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: I was talking to the lead, the character a rock 399 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: played by Patina Miller. I'll spitting game at it, but 400 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: I'll spitting game using Shakespeare. Why so you you know 401 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: I'll get a chance to use some of that. And 402 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: I was dropping on him and it was like, well, 403 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: this is something different. I've never got to chest say 404 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: Shakespeare on the camera before I've gotta go on the EDDA. 405 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: But I was like, wow, this is this is fun. 406 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I was speaking to 407 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: Allmar Dorsey, uh, just about his career, A brilliant career 408 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: and his only growing but currently it's the last season. Sadly, 409 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: as we say, Queen Sugar on their own network, a 410 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: project brought to him by Eva duven A has turned 411 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: into an n double a CP Award winning show and 412 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: it's part of your legacy now as we wrapped up 413 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: this interview, and you're being a part in a guy 414 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: who like I said, I pointed out something in two 415 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: thousand and six just to let you know your body 416 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: at work high and shifted out and how looking so diverse. 417 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: So you know you could be hated and Harriet and 418 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: be loved in Queens Sugar and then mysterious and raising Canaan. 419 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: So that's where you're in your life, my friends, and 420 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: then you can be right there the sheriff Barker in Hollywood. 421 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: That's a beautiful resonate, Ma, man any of impartant thoughts, Man, 422 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: you know, I just appreciate you, man, um. But yeah, 423 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: this is what it is. Man. Like you said, you 424 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: have to really believe in yourself, you know. Um. But 425 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: before any before anybody can believe in you, gotta believe 426 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: that the skills that you have, that the work that 427 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: you've put in like that that will translate. Whenever, then 428 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: whatever career path you choose, what however you want to 429 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: do it, if you're into politics, or if you're into uh, 430 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: the arts, if you're in the sports, or if you're 431 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: into education, if you have done your due diligence, and 432 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: then one day the light will shine on you and 433 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: you'll be ready to be ready for your close up 434 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: close up. But thank you, my brother. I appreciate you 435 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: taking the time to come on there and talk about 436 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: the last season of Queen Sugar again. We'll be watching 437 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: the game were watching on the small screen, be watching 438 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: a big thing. Thank you for coming on money making 439 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: compensation master like creature. We talked soon. My friend stay 440 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: sa A brother Peace