1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Everybody. Today's show is presented by Rocket Mortgage, joined Rocket 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Mortgage and saying thank you to Essential workers by posting 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: a video to Everyone Knows a Hero dot Com. Everyone 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Knows a Hero dot Com. Let's get to the draft 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: show you Around the NFL Podcast Bunker Cash, Episode three, 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: zero to eight. Welcome to another edition of the Around 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I'm coming 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: to you from the city filled with heroes in Bunker's 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Mark Seler, Chris Wesling, Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: It does feel like that, Yes it does. I didn't 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: think that. At some point do we need to stop 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: calling them Funker cast? You know? NFL? Are we just 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: this is what the podcast is at this point. It's 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: just the draft wonders and losers show, and who knows 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: if we're ever getting out of the bunkers, we better 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: get out of the bunkers. I think this is uh. 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: I think this is about I think it's our twenty 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: show in the garage and apartments, back houses and everywhere else. 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Um I know right. Someone asked someone asked if the 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: if you were a wageringe person, would you bet on 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: more Bunker casts or more current Super Bowls. And this 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: was a while ago, but I think bunker cast at 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: this point are an easy out of the park home 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: run bunker casts. I mean, if we're back in the 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: office by fifty five, I would say that's a a 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: violent coudeta in terms of society freedom. I always love 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: when violent finds its way in sentences that you would 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: never expect being back there in twenty three episodes, I 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: don't know, no hell, I got out the guillotine and 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: took care of coronavirus, just the revolution off at the head. 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm still I think about sometimes if I left any 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: food on on my desk, what's going on in that place? 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Because that's so true. I'd occasionally leave an apple or 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: an apple and orange tide of desk. I mean, those 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: things are rotting corps at this point. When we left, 36 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: and again, we have so much to get to. The 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: draft is in the books, and we're gonna share our 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: winners and losers from NFL Draft. Yeah. But yeah, when 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: we when this began, just like everybody else in the world, 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: that hit everybody by surprise. I didn't know when I 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: walked out of that office that we might not ever 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: go back in So I have a great like thermis 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: that I had in the podcast studio that I almost 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: thought about, can I get into the building to get it? 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 1: And then I was told the key cards have been deactivated. 46 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: So great, all right, everything's fine. Yeah, the world's great. Um. Yes, 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: we're excited to go through everything that else that happened. 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: Uh in the Virtual Draft. We are coming off our 49 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: Thursday night late Thursday night show where we gave you 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: all the Round one breakdown, and now we're going to 51 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: spin through our thoughts and analysis on rounds two through 52 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: seven and and all that good stuff. You guys, Uh, 53 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: feeling good? Uh? What what's you'r like? Greg? What's a 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: big picture takeaway from what we uh lived through the 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: last three days as football fans in the football industry 56 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: in general. I mean, I really enjoyed it. Maybe it 57 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: was just because I haven't had any sports to watch. 58 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm just very average in that 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: way that you know emmaca. My wife commented to She's like, 60 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: I can't remember you like, you know, watching and stut 61 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: like getting as into the draft, you know, since we've 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: been together. It's probably the last time I watched it 63 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: at home, which was like two thousand five, Like I 64 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: just needed some sporting events. So I enjoyed it. You know, 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: today I don't know these day three guys day threes. 66 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's fine, but I liked it. It 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: was a fun draft, all right. So we as we 68 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: do every year in this Saturday evening show, we go 69 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: through the winners and losers and let's get it going. 70 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: Then this will be fun. West. I want you to 71 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: kick us off, give us a winner. Let's start positive 72 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: before we start taking our shots. So I'm gonna do 73 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: a tag team to NF two a f C West 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: players Drew Lock quarterback of the Broncos and Josh Jacobs 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: running back of the Raiders, and I'll start with the ladder. 76 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Jacobs played with a quarterback who didn't really test anyone 77 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: downfield last year, and I'm sure saw a lot of 78 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: stack boxes now you add uh. Let me see these 79 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: names here, Lynn Bowden, who to me when I read 80 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: about him, seems like a new era Josh Cribs for 81 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: former quarterback who's physical. You can use him all over 82 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: the offense, you can use them in the return game. 83 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll be their jet sweep kind of guy 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs, the fastest player in the draft, and then 85 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Brian Edwards, another big wide receiver. Um, you've got a 86 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: lot more weapons. That was the big weakness in this 87 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: offense last year. And I think Josh Jacobs will see 88 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot more room to run. He was so impressive 89 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: last year and and I believe should have won the 90 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year award. And then the Broncos just 91 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: every problem they had on offense they fixed it. And 92 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: I thought the cherry on top was getting uh Lloyd Cushionberry, 93 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: the center in the third round who a lot of 94 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: guys thought was a plug and play starter right off 95 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: the bat. Mark's favorite guy had him at thirty two 96 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. In my mock, I mean that went south, 97 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: but not for Denver. I think Derek Carr, you know, 98 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: you could throw him in there too for a winner, 99 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: I mean one an offseason. He ended up having that 100 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: The Tom Brady you know, drama or rumors were clearly 101 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: annoying to him for a while, but in the end, 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: the results are what matters. And as Dan's pointed out, 103 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: I think Mariota is about as good of an option 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: as he could have had. Behind him for a guy 105 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: that he should be able to beat out, you know, 106 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: as Jon Grun's offense much better, and I think he's 107 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: more talented than Mariota. And then you spend the whole 108 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: start of the draft, you know, giving him more weapons, 109 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: more options, more flavors bowed and sounds like they announced 110 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: him as a running back that they're gonna he's gonna 111 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: be like a joker running back. You get to speeds. 112 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: There's the question I think with Car is you know, 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: canny hit Henry rugs deep. He He's always been such 114 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: a conservative type of quarterback who doesn't take deep shots. 115 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: And it's almost like, Okay, we're giving you these deep 116 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: speed threats. We're giving you as much as we can. 117 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: It's a nice offensive line, like, go show it to 118 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: us this year. This is your year. Derek Carr. We've 119 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: probably said this before, but it really does feel like 120 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: he has to play better this year than he did 121 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: a year ago, I think to keep that job. And 122 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: their defense not as improved, and so this is gonna 123 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: have to be an offense first team, which is which 124 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: is what they were last year too, when they were 125 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: winning games. It helps Car a little bit that there's 126 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: equal suspicion that Marcus Mariota could hit anyone deep on 127 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: an accurate basis. Also, Dan getting your shots on Hilway. 128 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: Now look at this offense. See, we'll see who's laughing 129 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: next year when he um parachutes into Green Bay, snatches 130 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers away from the Packers and installs him as 131 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: the quarterback of this Broncos offense next year. Hey, listen, 132 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: that's the only thing he's proven he can do is 133 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: poach an obvious legend and then uh get the last 134 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: drops of goodness out of him. Um. Yeah, and listen. 135 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: I at one point, Trade Windo was fell over himself 136 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: talking about how unbelievable this Broncos draft was. And it 137 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: does look good on paper, but you know, we'll see 138 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: how it goes. I'm just saying it's been a rough 139 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: It's been a rough stretch for John always since Super 140 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty and he's results this year. Well, I'll conceive that, 141 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: but but I think, I mean, even people who are 142 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: skeptical of the Broncos have to look at the difference 143 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: in this roster from last year. Yeah, I think they 144 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: have to love it. I think what they have and 145 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: that you said fixed other problems. I mean, their offensive 146 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: line made some progress last year. It's been bad since 147 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: John always been there, and it it still might be bad, 148 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: so that that could be a problem for them. And 149 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback isn't gonna change unless Elway was lying. 150 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I read these quotes from Elbay that said 151 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: we brought in DRIs Skill to be our backup. He 152 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: made the backup quarterback in this league, and Drew Lock 153 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: as a starter is our starter. And and so that 154 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: that part of it is not going to change unless 155 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: that was just some sort of smoke screen. They Yeah, 156 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: but I believe in Drew Drisco. When driscoes your quarterback, 157 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: it means your days of winning are over, even if 158 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: it's just for a game or two. Like he's not 159 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: a winner, He's not going to carry you to wins. 160 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen. Let's just let's just listen to 161 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: uh Trey Wingo. It has been an unbelievable draft for 162 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. And let's not even add uh Lloyd 163 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: Cushionberry and McKelvin a game the defensive tackle out of 164 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: Arkansas unbelievable. What the Denver Broncos are doing He's a 165 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: snake charmer, is what he is. And he's also in 166 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: a like hour seven of live television. I'm sure you know, 167 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: not every comments being listen. I'm again, I am not 168 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: taking down the Broncos draft. It seems like they did 169 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: a good job, but it does the bar so low 170 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: for l Way to clear to be seen as a 171 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: genius in this league. That's well, it's it's new. Broncos 172 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: fans are gonna come after me again. And I mentions 173 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: that it happens a lot, but I'm just pointing out 174 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: the obvious that it's like anything he does, he gets 175 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. It seems it looks great, 176 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: but I have noticed over the years, and I am 177 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: the first person who does this. Whoever drafts a bunch 178 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: of offensive skill players, everyone says they had a good draft, 179 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, because that's like the players, you know, And 180 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, you can just imagine them coming 181 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: to the team and and that that is what the 182 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: Broncos did, and it looks great on paper, and boss, 183 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: we you know, we talked about it at the combine. 184 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: I like Elway. He runs. I think about my childhood 185 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: and he's one of the great quarterbacks of our youth. 186 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, we'll see what happens. Good luck 187 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: to your stance on this is fair. Um, it certainly 188 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: helped Elway that well. Not only was he a legend, 189 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: but he came in and dominated that division for years. 190 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: And maybe that was all Peyton Manning, but I agree 191 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: with you what he's done at quarterback and offensive line 192 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: since Peyton Manning left the Broncos is embarrassing. When you 193 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: threw the Raiders and Broncos together, that whole division does 194 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: look really good. The North right now, don't they? That's 195 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: what I fall for. I mean, I feel like percent 196 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: of the league feels like a playoff team to me, 197 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: um smack dab in late April, when everyone's added eight 198 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: or nine players that everyone's gushing over relentlessly. I don't 199 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: think so. In the a f C to me, like 200 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: the a f C East obviously doesn't look that great, 201 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: and the AFC South is fine, but those the a 202 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: f C West and North in division, those games look 203 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: like a lot of fun. I'll throw out another winner. Um, 204 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: I'll stick in the a f C West. Since where 205 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: we have a theme here, People who want to see 206 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: the ceiling of a Mahomes read offense. Um, this is 207 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: this is fun. I mean you you take in the 208 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: first round, this Clyde Edwards, Hilary kid who we all 209 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: we talked about Thursday night. That west How did you 210 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: describe him or see him comped? Is Priest Holmes was 211 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: some kind of of Darren Sprowls and Priest Holmes. Priest 212 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: Thomas was the the comp on television by multiply people. 213 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: He'd comped him to Brian Westbrook that he liked them 214 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: better than and then the uh bred beach who Greg 215 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, speaking of putting respect on people's names, I 216 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: know you respect him now, it wasn't always that way. Well, 217 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: I gave him like a silly voice on our You're 218 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: the GM, right could see he looked like the only 219 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: GM that you know, I could potentially compete with in 220 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: like an alter occasion. Um speech and Andy Reid. They 221 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: bring in this running back, so imagine if he clicks 222 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: and he's a star and uh, I feel like when 223 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: you get a running back in the back of the 224 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: first round, it makes me think of Josh Jacobs. These 225 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: guys can hit the ground running or in year one 226 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: you might even get the best season out of him, 227 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens with that. Um they focus 228 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: more on defense the rest of the draft, which makes 229 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: a lot of sense as well. But I just I 230 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: just if I'm a Chiefs fan and I'm already on 231 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: cloud nine after what happened last year, you just think 232 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: yourself a fully healthy Patrick Mahomes, now you have a 233 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: potential stud in the backfield. You keep Sammy Watkins, So 234 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: the wide receiver group is coming back intact as long 235 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: as the offensive line holds up and they protect Mahomes. 236 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: We're talking about a potentially historic offense. And you saw 237 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: that in this draft the way the rest of the 238 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: a f C West tried to stack up their offenses 239 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: because they're terrified about what's going to be happening in 240 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: Arrowhead this year, and they don't draft players that don't 241 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: fit their system. I mean read obviously, I mean when 242 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: you hear Brian rest Westbrook comparisons and read sees that 243 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: and more, I mean, what coach do you trust more 244 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: to plug him in and make him immediately productive? Were 245 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: the point where I mean, by Saturday, every fantasy related 246 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: type podcast that was coming out and report and tweet 247 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: about him, that running back was like he's automatically vaulted 248 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: into uh the higher upper echelons of fantasy drafts already 249 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: sight unseen. He also, um, you know, Read has the 250 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: advantage of having been there five years and in the 251 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: and as a guy who you really trust to have 252 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: a plan coming out of this. If they don't have 253 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: a lot of practice like that offense has been a 254 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: to to Mark's point that he he thinks it's going 255 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: to help the teams, you know, not having practice that 256 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: have been together. I think that's true. That's gonna be 257 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: true for something's not most. But the chiefs would be one. 258 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean the chiefs of any team, Like they could 259 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: show up tomorrow and play Week one and I think 260 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: they would be fine. Mark about a winner, Um, I'm 261 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: gonna double package A the bottom half of the a 262 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: f C North. Now, I think it's been you know, 263 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: because because I think West you'd agree with me that 264 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: we don't really view the Bengals playoff run that got 265 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: a little bit ballyhooed by some um as. Really that's 266 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: something that's mattered historically, that it's been fifty five years 267 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: since the Browns and Bengals um have won a playoff 268 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: game together. I would say. One thing that comes out 269 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: of this process, the entire offseason process for me, um 270 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: with Cincinnati and Cleveland, is a message to both fan 271 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: bases that, um, there's been a lot of discordant uh, mishmashing, um, 272 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: lack of identity, no idea what these teams have been 273 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: about for for the past couple of years and for 274 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland a lot longer. Uh. Now, I think it's it's 275 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: pretty clear to be confident in the Bengals and the Browns. 276 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: I am, and I think that the Bengals obviously, you know, 277 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: all they could have done. Um, you know, if they did, 278 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: if they did anything other than take Joe Burrow, it 279 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: would have been a hot mess. They didn't mess around 280 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: with that. You go get Tee Higgins UM. And you 281 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: know it's you look at what they didn't have last year. 282 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: They now have a j greenback, You get lineman like 283 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: Jonah Williams back, Joe Mixon is Jonah Mixing. They added 284 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys on defense, and they were aggressive 285 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: in free agency. And the Bengals to me, have provided legitimate, um, tangible, 286 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: exciting hope to Cincinnati and Cincinnati's fan base for the 287 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: first time that I can remember in a in a 288 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: legit long time because I am someone that simply looked 289 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: at and I realized that you guys think I was 290 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: a little harsh on the Andy Dalton experience in general, 291 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: but just as a ceiling experience that your your excitement 292 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: can only be so high barring a Joe Flacco like 293 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl playoff run. And I would go to Cleveland 294 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: and say this that you have Andrew Berry, who is 295 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: the youngest general manager in the history of the NFL, 296 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: and he I thought that he went right into free 297 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: agency and helped that team right away by going out 298 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: and getting Jack Conklin on the right side. And when 299 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: you've got Jedrick Wills. I loved what they did with 300 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: Grant Delpit at safety. Um. They they really round after 301 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: round in the draft found value. And to me, it 302 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: was very clear what the Browns are looking for in 303 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: the draft. It is highly decorated college players who won 304 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: national awards, who were team captains, who were not flash 305 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: in the pan one year type guys, but showed production 306 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: year after year. And when you use that system in 307 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: that grid, they found value. And I'm not trying to 308 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: overhype them. I this is this is not based on 309 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: my analysis. It's looking at draft guys. They were tweeted 310 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: me saying, you found value each one of these rounds. 311 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: These players have done more than people realize that the 312 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: college ranks. Will it work out? I don't know, but 313 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: I I there, you know it's the eight not a 314 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: half wins Cleveland Browns. Well, I I'm not sure there 315 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: are even a better team than the Bengals. That's that's 316 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: my concern. Would be more that I would say they 317 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: nine wins, so under I'll go nine wins, okay, and 318 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: I think that might be enough to get the seventh seed. 319 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: UM in a weird a f C. But it's no, 320 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't at all. But I would say this that 321 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: the a f C North, which has truly just been 322 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: owned by the Steelers and Ravens for Eon upon eon, 323 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: is now more intriguing and it's freaking it's weird, and 324 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: it's like I had to go back because again I 325 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: just totally ignore the Bengals teams that went to the 326 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: playoffs and didn't do anything. Back to when West and 327 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: I were in six and seventh and eighth grade, UM 328 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: were the last time of the Browns and Bengals had 329 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: any sort of rivalry or provided true challenge to the 330 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: other teams in their own division. I think it may 331 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: not all come this year, but we are heading in 332 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: that direction. Um. I'm sure this will be a sound 333 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: bite that bites me in the butt a thousand times, 334 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: but I feel that way because I don't think it's 335 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: just a mirage. I think they're seen us to be 336 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: with the team's a plan. We're both teams a plan. 337 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: The Bengals have a quarterback with charisma, and it's been 338 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: a long time. I would go back to Boom Rissias 339 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: and the last time they had back with this kind 340 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: of charisma, this kind of personality that's infectious. And I 341 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: was texting with some friends and family from Cincinnati. This 342 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: is the first time I've had legitimate hope for the 343 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: Bengals in probably thirty years. I mean, I have some 344 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: hope they can turn it around, and they I think 345 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: they got a great value in in Higgins, who I 346 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: was a little mystified why he slipped a little in 347 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: the draft process. I mean, he's the guy that you 348 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: would have expected would have been a top fifteen type 349 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: of guy when he watched Me's so smooth, he's so good. 350 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: He just immediately reminds you of a J. Green. I mean, 351 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: there's there's no one that you would think of in 352 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: terms of a boundary receiver who's faster than he looks. 353 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: And these guys tend to always follow a little bit 354 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: in the draft. Not that Green fell, but these kind 355 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: of long, strider, tall guys who don't necessarily show the separation. 356 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is another guy that he got compared to 357 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: when you watch, I mean, he just is such a 358 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: smooth receiver. And to throw him backing up Green for 359 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: now and then assuming he takes over for Green a 360 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: year from now and Green probably leaves in free agency, 361 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: it's fun. And to your Brown's point, Mark, I think 362 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: the best sign for them is like you didn't hear 363 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: anything about them in the weeks later the draft. They've 364 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: been a leaky and just sneaks. Ownership came in, it's 365 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: been messy, and this did not seem messy. Um. Also 366 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: to your point, Mark, and this does feel like a 367 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: time of transition after twenty years of the Patriots the 368 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: top the league and being the big, the big bully 369 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: in town, that the NFL is maybe changing and going 370 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: in different directions. Yes, Harrison Okay, and how about some 371 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: of these rivalries coming back. You know, the Bengals and Browns, 372 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, the Jets and Dolphins, the Giants and Redskins, 373 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: you name it. Some of these teams that have been 374 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: dormant for the past half decade, ten years. Bring it back. 375 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: The draft, the draft. You need more than the draft 376 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: for that though, you need, you need wins. Well give 377 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: us this. You know there's more of the Giants and 378 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: Redskins that stuck out there. It's like, you know, you 379 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta start winning some games. I speak while 380 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: we're on the red Skins. I'm just gonna throw out 381 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: a winner. We're all winners for not never having to 382 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: talk about Trent Williams trade rumors again on this podcast. 383 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: And maybe the Redskins are winners and this too, just 384 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: that they as we went to bed Friday night after 385 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Day two drafts, seemed like they were stuck with Trent 386 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: Williams or they couldn't figure anything out, and they end 387 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: up dealing him to the forty niners um for a 388 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: third round pick next year and a fifth round pick 389 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: this year, and Joe Staley retires on top of that. 390 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: As good as it is for us. And it's good 391 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: for the Redskins to just kind of solve a problem. 392 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: Is it's even better for the forty Niners. I mean, 393 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: Trent Williams is a nasty player. He couldn't fit in 394 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: better with the team that loves to be bullies. Because 395 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: when I think Trent Willia, I think he's gonna have 396 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: a decent chance at the Hall of Fame some day. 397 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: You think of him as just kind of the the bully, 398 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: like the meanest left tackle there is that if you 399 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: just picked one that's not the most physically imposing, that's him. 400 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: And he's got some injury issues and that's a risk, 401 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: but he hasn't played in like two years. And but 402 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: for the forty Niners to be able to plug him 403 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: in when they're left tackle the last fourteen years, retires 404 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: and they knew he was gonna retire, Um, you know, 405 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: that's pretty seamless, and that's pretty great. It was a 406 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: very real possibility, uh that Tom Brady could have taken 407 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: his job again, and it didn't happen. They made the 408 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: decision to stay with him. Now he gets a potential 409 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame left tackle with a huge chip on 410 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: his shoulder who replaces a guy Staley who was excellent 411 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: but was getting older and obviously ready to walk away 412 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: from the game. So when the dust cleared since fifty 413 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty four, things worked out pretty well for 414 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: Jimmy g Go ahead, let's just say it was Mike 415 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Shanahan that drafted Trent Williams in you know, and that 416 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: that was there in the Shanahan Uh, Daniel Snyder ending 417 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: was far from pretty. But um, as Peter Schreeger noted 418 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: on Twitter, you know, maybe in this time where we're 419 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: all being very challenged, we're learning to get along a 420 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: little better because Daniel Snyder and Kyle Shanahan, uh were 421 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 1: the people that put this deal together. So uh, you know, 422 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: anything is possible. In yes, how about this a loser 423 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: connected to this again? All the all the football team 424 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: builders for not having the g m app Yeah, absolutely, 425 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame level left tackle with prime years remaining. 426 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: This thing drags out for almost a year, it feels 427 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: like a decade, and the end of the day, it's 428 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: a fifth rounder in the current draft and a third 429 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: rounder next year. I mean, you're telling me, and I understand. 430 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: It was messy and there was all sorts of layers 431 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: to this. I think he's going to ask for more 432 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: money too. I think that's a big part of it 433 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: is he wants to get a big new content. Okay, 434 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: but I guess I don't know. Maybe if there if 435 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: this was handled better in the Redskins. Yeah, if you 436 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: want to give him a lollipop for just getting this 437 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: off their plate, uh, that's fine. But I mean if 438 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: that ends up being this, so they lose the player 439 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: who refused to play with him, and then when you 440 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: couldn't even maximize him in a trade, I know you're 441 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: kind of cut down with the knees a little bit 442 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: when the guy is saying I'll never play for you again. 443 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: But third and a fifth, Uh yeah. If I'm a 444 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: Redskins fan, I'm I was thinking I'm at least getting 445 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: a second round out of this. Well, the environment was 446 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: terrible to you because a bunch of tackle needy teams 447 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: filled that need you know. On the forty Niners considered it, 448 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: they thought about trading up, and I do wonder if 449 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: they wanted Mackay Beckton because to me that that is 450 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: the type of guy that they would have wanted. And 451 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: then they stopped trying to clean up at at that point. 452 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: But the problem is Ron Rivera's paying the Bruce Allen tacks. 453 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: It's like Ron Rivera comes in, he's inheriting the situation 454 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with, but he's he's having 455 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: to pay the tax of what Bruce Allen left him. 456 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: Also clear seven million in cap space, get draft picks 457 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: for Matt Breeda and Marquis Goodwin, and find homes for 458 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: two players who were no longer needed anymore on that roster. 459 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: Good job. Yeah, I like Breeda in Miami. They didn't 460 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: they didn't draft the running back, but you know, they're 461 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: running backs are easy enough to find, and getting him 462 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: for a fifth round pick is is kind of a 463 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: good example of it. That's kind of a great trade. 464 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: I think, um, all right, West, you're up, go either direction. 465 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say loser. A f C Super Bowl hopeful 466 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: is not named Ravens or Chiefs. Sorry, I mean that behind. 467 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: They don't exist. They're left behind the Chiefs. I mean, 468 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: good luck stopping that offense. And then the Ravens add 469 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: one of the fastest slot receiver prospects. They had a 470 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: couple of linemen, another deep threat receiver uh and j 471 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: K Dobbins, who I love hearing from college football fans 472 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: who watched these guys every week and have followed them 473 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: for years. Brother Phil at the Combine a couple of 474 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: years ago said j K. Dobbins, watch out for this guy, 475 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: like out of all the high state running backs. I 476 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: love him, Spice Rack loves him. Thought he was a 477 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: great pick for the Ravens. And then on the flip side, 478 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: I have Georgia fans um from Tybee, who I thought 479 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: Swift was incredibly overrated. The guy the lines drafted in 480 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: the second round. It was not nearly as good as 481 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: any of the running backs they've had there in Georgia. 482 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: I loved Swift when I watched him. He kind of 483 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: looked like the guy to me that popped off as 484 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: the most talented guy in the draft, like complete, sharp cuts, 485 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: super explosive. It didn't surprise me that this is what 486 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: everyone said to me. I mean, like the Sharp Sudden movie. 487 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: It didn't surprise me that Daniel that DJ had Swift ranked, 488 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, considerably higher than any running back in this draft, 489 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: just because he's the type of guy. You know that 490 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 1: I think the NFL is drafted in the top fifteen 491 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: or twenty and I like, I love the way he moved. 492 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: Dobbins seemed like a much safer and in a great pick, 493 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: like you know, Spice Rack had compared him to to 494 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: uh myth and he's the type of guy who has 495 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: a lot of the subtleties. You can see him setting 496 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: people up, like if you if you get him block 497 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: him four yards, I'll get you eight. And he just 498 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: seemed like a pro. And that's it's not good news 499 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: for your boy mark Ingram though, who's not going to 500 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: be the lead rusher. You would think they're anymore Mark Well, 501 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: I think that if they run this a similar type 502 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: offense to last year at mark Ingram still is a 503 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: big role. But you're right, there's there's multiple backs and 504 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: you're always going to team building wise, favor the less 505 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: expensive younger guy, Mark Sessler winner loser. Well, I would 506 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: go Panthers. I thought I liked their draft a lot. 507 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: And I think if you come out of this and 508 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: and you know they're one of only five or six 509 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: teams um in the last you know, sixties seventy years 510 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: to draft all defense and uh first team to draft 511 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: at least seven players all defense since the rounds. Yeah, 512 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's um, So it's a statement. I think 513 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: they went in knowing what they needed to do, and 514 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that assessment. Um, there's a lot 515 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: of pieces on offense, and they didn't move Curtis Samuel, 516 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: so they've still got those parts. But you get Derek Brown. Uh, 517 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, I guess some people like Darren Brown more 518 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: than others, but he fits for them. Um. You tour 519 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Gross Meadows, who had a lot of people thought would 520 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: go in the first round, they got at a value spot. 521 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin at safety a lot of people also thought 522 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: could have gone earlier than he did. So for me, 523 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean you you know, again, these are names and 524 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: and they they got them at good spots and they 525 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: and they got value in each round. But Matt Rule 526 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: first time coach, UM, and I think Matt Rule also 527 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: has a distinct advantage in this draft, specifically having any 528 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: anyone coming from the college ranks. They may be a 529 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: bit of a disadvantageable learning the NFL process, but you know, 530 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: they talked about the fact that he just had a 531 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: visual eyes on um library on so many more college 532 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: players than your average pro coach who is learning the 533 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: college guys coming out of the combine. They've got a 534 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: cram for forty fifty days. And Matt Rule has been 535 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: game planning for some of these guys for so long 536 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: and fell in love with some of them anew their 537 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses. So that's one advantage for a first 538 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: year coach. And I thought the Panthers were organized. Um. 539 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what the future with Marty Hernie is 540 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: at GM. I don't know if that's a pairing that 541 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: will live forever. But he didn't get in the way. 542 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: It seemed like Matt Rule um was in control and 543 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: got what he wanted. And so for the Panthers, you know, 544 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: in general, I kind of like the the experimental nature 545 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: and the rebuilding UM project going on in Carolina. I'm 546 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: keeping my eyes on it. And good draft, so big winner. 547 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: Phil Snow the defensive coordinator. I mean, who's another guy 548 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: who's coming from college. Not a lot of NFL coaches 549 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: on that defense, so it is an experiment. Like their 550 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: their defense is a total mystery, but it's pretty talented 551 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: in the front seven. They have no one in their secondary. 552 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's maybe the worst secondary in the league. 553 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: So if the if the idea that like the Dolphins, uh, 554 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: and the Patriots, they're like, oh, let's build from the 555 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: back to the front. There there the opposite at least 556 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: right now, and they said they wanted to build from 557 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: the front. Um. That also could say we don't have 558 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: much of a choice because you can't draft twelve secondary 559 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: players all in two days. So sometimes I like when 560 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: teams and the Panthers obviously did it to the extreme. Uh, 561 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: it feels like a little showy and over corrective steering 562 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: sometimes to go completely on one side of the ball 563 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: and the draft is that. I think it's like luck 564 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: though that it happened that way. I'm not offensive, yeah, 565 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not bearing the Panthers or anything if 566 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: that's just how the draft board fell, But it almost 567 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: makes it seem like, you know, our offense is fine, 568 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: it's the defense is as long as rule can coach 569 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: up this d everything's gonna be okay. Well, we'll see. 570 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: I think they could have taken an offensive tackle or 571 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: someone else if if the if the right person, if 572 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: things have gone a little differently. But you're right, it's 573 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: and they'll probably end up taking five offensive players next 574 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: year because they realize that they don't have anything on 575 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Well, how about a nice 576 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: measure draft. You know, I'll stay out of it, and 577 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Your offense does look pretty solid on paper. 578 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's get negative. All right, I'm thrown out 579 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: a loser. Yeah, how about how about Eagles fans? I'm 580 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: giving you a big fat helt. Colleen is, by the way, 581 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: one of the more sweet natured people. I know. She's 582 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: just a good woman. And she was she was legitimately thorny. 583 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: Well I think after after she got off and she 584 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: did amazing work on network, uh, all the days of 585 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: the draft, but yeah, go on, yeah, I and and 586 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: I think that's she's dialed into the Eagles fans on 587 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: Twitter and the Eagles media on Twitter, which for some reason, 588 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: we're apoplectic that this was the worst draft ever and 589 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: that it became this like crazy group think that they've 590 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: just you know, torn down the state the building. Because okay, 591 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: in the first round, you know it hurts you you 592 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: see ceedee Lamb go to the Cowboys. I guess that hurts. 593 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my gosh, we took the number six 594 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: consensus receiver instead of the number four consensus receiver and 595 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: like this guy, you know, Jalen reagor like fit their needs, 596 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: Like who are you? There's sub draft experts that like 597 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: that was a crazy pick, so they were already on 598 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: was like the number one, but no, no, I'm talking 599 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: about Reager with six And people were upset that they 600 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: didn't take Jefferson. I mean, I'm the tray up, but 601 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: it hurt that they saw the Cowboys go. But then 602 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: what really made him go crazy with Jalen Hurts And 603 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not surprised that they the fans in 604 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: the media went crazy that used the late second for 605 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: a quarterback. But this always annoys me, Like fan bases 606 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: always go crazy when a team that has a quarterback 607 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: takes another quarterback, and I don't. I think if it's 608 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: the right player, and it's the right spot in the 609 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: draft and you're in whatever is going on, Like quarterbacking 610 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: is so valuable that everyone wants this immediate gratification of 611 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: like you can imagine he gets plugged in a most 612 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: late second guys don't help you that much right away anyways, 613 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: Like if you want a guy that's going to develop 614 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: and everything, and quarterback is so important that it makes 615 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: sense to me that you keep drafting quarterbacks like I 616 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: think the Patriots draft and Jimmy g and Jacoby makes sense. 617 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: The Saints have invested a lot in backup quarterbacks. And 618 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: of all the family, the most important person in the 619 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: the organization is your quarterback. And the second most important 620 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: person in your organization is your backup quarterback. You know, 621 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: you know who should know that more than anyone. The Eagles. 622 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: They had a near m v P as a backup 623 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: quarterback in Michael Vick. They had a Super Bowl m 624 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: v P as a backup quarterback in Nick Foles, and 625 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: they have a starting quarterback with durability problems. Like I 626 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: just don't get why, like they went so nuts about 627 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: because it feels to the to the layman, to a fan, 628 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: that especially coming off a very frustrating season in Philadelphia 629 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: where you really felt like the team builders did not 630 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: do a good job building around the quarterback. And then 631 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: you hear for three and a half four straight months 632 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: about how this is the best wide receiver class in eons, 633 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: and you get you get tons of value in the 634 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: second and third round in this draft, and then in 635 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: the second round you take a quarterback and and I 636 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: think Lewis Riddick might have said it during the telecast, 637 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: and Lewis Riddeck, I cannot stop staring in his background 638 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: he had, you know, he had a generic um football 639 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: bro background. Where was a bunch of biographies for Bill Walsh, 640 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels, this guy, that guy, all NFL legends, and 641 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: then like yeah, like Mark, and then like right right 642 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: in the middle is an unauthorized Jay Z biography autobiography 643 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, how did that get in there? Everything 644 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: else is football and then just this one jay Z 645 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: book and just you know, I have a niest nin 646 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: down here. I don't think Lewis Riddick has a niest 647 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: ninn novels on his where he like it was like 648 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: he wrote the lyrics and it was a little bit 649 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: of his own book. Don't that what it was? No, No, 650 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, at least have that one that's ane think 651 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: half of Colleen. I don't know. It was being triggered 652 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: was the fact that the Cowboys should have been one 653 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: of our winners that we listed to point I got 654 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: sidetracked by by the rate of conversation, but just that 655 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: I think someone said on telcast that your backup quarterback 656 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: on a fifty three man roster is like a top 657 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: thirty commodity, So it is important to have that guy, 658 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: especially with the Eagles. You're right, but you understand that 659 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: frustration to from the fans who dealt with j j Arthaga, 660 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: Whiteside and all those other Jags all season. But in 661 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: a way that started proved that helps prove the point. 662 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: It's like last year they're late second round pick was 663 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: Arthego Whiteside. You know, of course you have to you 664 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: don't give up. My point is like you you don't 665 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: know if it's gonna work or not. They have to 666 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: be right about Jalen Hurts. My point, if Jalen Hurts 667 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: is good and they obviously love him, and some people 668 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: really do love Jalen Hurts, then it's gonna be nice 669 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: to have him. And who knows what's going to happen 670 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: in the next four years, Like that's a valuable rookie 671 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: contract to have. If he's just a backup, that's worth 672 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: it to me. If he's a good backup, that's a 673 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: that Greg, that's a very sound argument, and I bet 674 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: there's a pocket of of Eagles fans that would basically 675 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: agree with what you're saying, but the draft is the 676 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: event that I think that unleash is um insane analysis 677 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: from analysts and insane behavior from fans because it's so 678 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: separated from an actual on field reality check that you're 679 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: basically reacting most people. I know what I you know, 680 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: even now, we're not studying every one of these guys, 681 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: like will be have a fourth round and you know 682 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: the Browns will take a little Why did they do that? 683 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: What do I know? I mean, it's like checking in 684 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: two years and the guys made two Pro Bowls and 685 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: I just wanted some other person who had a flashier name. 686 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, fans don't act. Fans are just plugged in 687 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: and passionate. And Eagles fans, I mean are the ones 688 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: who like you know, I'm blaming the media more because 689 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: that a lot of these Twitter followers I had, they 690 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: were going just as crazy. I just do the Dallas 691 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: thing where you've got Jerry Jones on this like billion 692 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: dollar yacht, which we saw um at the Super Bowl 693 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: and down in South Beach that the Cowboys kind of 694 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: nailed this thing, or at least did. What makes you 695 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: think that was a good draft. We'll see what happens 696 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: but it's a flashy, exciting, marketable draft, and the Eagles 697 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: went southward and that on that front for a lot 698 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: of their fans know that, saying, if you start listening 699 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: to your fans, you'll be sitting in the stands with him. 700 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: I read the origin story for that the other day, 701 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: and it's really interesting. It comes from Bulls analyst Johnny 702 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: reg Kerr from the nineteen eighty draft when the Bulls 703 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: and Lakers had a coin flip for Magic Johnson, and 704 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: the Bulls listened to their fans who said vote tales, 705 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 1: and they went tails heads and they lost Magic Johnson 706 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: to the Laker. I mean, how do you how do 707 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: you vote tales? Anyway, it was vote heads. I don't know, 708 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: tales never fails. I often vote tales. I kind of 709 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: had Carson Wentz as a loser in this um. But 710 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: your logic is it sound? Greg? I think that Aaron 711 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: Rodgers is a loser here. We talked about the Jordan 712 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: Love angle of it all in the eye of the 713 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: Tiger talk. But then I also I'm looking at and 714 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: again the fans, just like Eagles fans, clamoring give us 715 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: more wide receiver options. Give us somebody, uh, and this 716 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: is what their draft was. QB and round one running 717 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: back A J. Dillon out of Boston College in round two. 718 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: He's not a receiving threat who was just like an 719 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: old school pounding the tackle pounder. Uh. They took a 720 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: tight end in round three and a draft class that 721 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: is not good in the tie at end department. Maybe 722 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: this Josiah Deguara becomes something, but we'll see an inside linebacker, 723 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: a guard, a center, a tackle, a safety, and a 724 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: defensive end. Yeah, you want to talk about thumb in 725 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: your nose at the fans, not what they were doing, 726 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: but it could feel that way because they didn't take 727 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: a wide receiver in like nine or ten picks. And 728 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: then the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports of the Packers are 729 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: moving toward a quote run oriented attack this upcoming season. 730 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: You know who's under attack, Aaron Rodgers. Please get me 731 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: some somebody inside that compound wherever he is. I want 732 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: to know what this guy is really thinking right now, 733 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: because over the course of the weekend, they give you 734 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: no new options to throw to. They draft your replacement, 735 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: and there's a report leaking that they're not even gonna 736 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: make you. You're not even be involved in a past 737 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: first offense when you're Aaron Rodgers, What a lot of three? 738 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: This is Aaron Rodgers worst draft since he was sitting 739 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: in that green room for three hours in two thousand five. 740 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan beat Fleur, his old pupil, so bad add 741 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: in the playoffs and so thoroughly that now Lafleur wants 742 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: his identity to be Kyle Shanahan's identity and the old guy, Yeah, 743 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,479 Speaker 1: Deguaro to me, sounds like sort of a bigger Kyle 744 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: uice Check a fullback tight end um kind of hybrid 745 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: who I mean I when you read about him, who 746 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 1: drafts a fullback in the third round? But it looks 747 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: like he can play every um, every special teams you want, 748 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: uh fullback, tight end, downfield threat. So that'll be an 749 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 1: interesting one. And then to get that big back he had. 750 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: He came from Tennessee La Fleur. He was the offensive 751 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: coordinator for Derrick Henry, So that'll be interesting. I think 752 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: to springboard off of yours and other losers, Aaron Jones, 753 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: Dynasty owners and fantasy football. You got twenty touchdowns out 754 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: of that guy last year. You're never getting close to 755 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: that again. Man, That a j Dillon who is the 756 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: running back. Some people just couldn't see it. Mike Mike Renner, 757 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: who I think does a really good job at PFF. 758 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: He's their main draft. I just thought it's he. He 759 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: didn't think that there's any chance Renner could make it happen. Now, 760 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: obviously the Packers aren't. It's like Brian goodacun is good 761 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: at his job and he totally disagrees um. But here's 762 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: a guy who is two pounds and doesn't like run 763 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: over anybody, and it's gonna take a while to like 764 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: get him going. And you don't see a lot of 765 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: those guys at that height succeed. You're right, Dan, it 766 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: was a bad draft. That's where many receivers out there either. 767 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: I tried to look for some free agents, like maybe 768 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: there would be someone unless they went Antonio Brown with 769 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: stuff and Seth Wickersham. You know, he's exhausted that well 770 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: in New England. Green Bay is the place to go 771 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: now because in one draft, think about how difficult potentially 772 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: the relationship is from Matt Laflora now who now probably 773 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: if he had, if he ever had Aaron Rodgers as 774 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 1: an ally, and we didn't hear anything of like real 775 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: distrust between them, but he's gonna think he was involved 776 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: with this, so Flora has to deal with that as well. Um, 777 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens. It's just it feels 778 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: like it was a trum matic draft for the packers, 779 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know if I don't know if they're 780 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: better or not. I don't know. We'll say maybe this 781 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: is like his al Pacino in the First Godfather, a 782 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: moment where he pulls the gun out in the Italian 783 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: restaurant and suddenly goes from weaky, squeaky, whiney voice al 784 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: Pacino to uh, something closer to the al Pacino we 785 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: know today. I don't understand whether yet or he's like, 786 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, he was like, as you know what you're saying, Mark. 787 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: He was described by Dan's dads as, um a boy 788 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: with a beer. I mean, so you know at some 789 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: point the flower. The flower doesn't suggest that you canne 790 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: We met the guy last May, last March. Nice guy, 791 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: a bit of a soft spoken guy. You wonder if 792 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: this is if he has the medal for this, because 793 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: this this could be tricky. Last year looked like Goodakuns draft, 794 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: and this year looks like la Flour's draft. Uh, just 795 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: just the imprints that they seem to have on it 796 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: to good kuns credit. It's like he's deserved a little benefitted. Doubt, 797 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: he's been on a pretty big winding streak since he 798 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: took out took over that job. For that matter, they 799 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: can I give you, can I give you a quick 800 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: off the field loser. I mean, these these two items were, Um, 801 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, the draft is long, and it's you know, 802 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: you've got to you've gotta big sure you're eating the 803 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: right food and drinking the right stuff to keep your 804 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: body going so you're not just fading awake. Because day 805 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: three feels to me like you're walking across uh the 806 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: Nevada death planes. I mean, it's a very long it's 807 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: a long journey. Day three. Let me tell you two 808 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: things that brought me immense joy. Well that's that's fair. 809 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know why they need to 810 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: name them. But how about this overly assuming girlfriends who 811 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: really really struggled during this draft? And I mean this 812 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: was right in our wheelhouse, Dan and and and the 813 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: rest of us. Are you referring to Cede Lamb? I 814 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: mean they've everyone seen at this point Lamb and you've 815 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: all had this experience in your life where um, and 816 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: it may be for no uh guilty associated reason, but 817 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, the girl goes and grab He had a girl, 818 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: his girlfriend, I assume as his girlfriend, sitting next to him, 819 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: and he had multiple phones and he's on the phone, uh, 820 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, dealing with people left and right, and he 821 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: had a second phone on his lap and the girlfriend 822 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: just sort of audaciously grabbed it. I don't know what 823 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: she was thinking she was gonna do, and you know, 824 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: he just wrestled it. Immediately looked at her, wrestled the 825 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: phone out of her hand, and then suddenly, you know, 826 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: the screen doesn't move and it's locked on her and 827 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: you don't see her face, but she suddenly turns to 828 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the room and you're thinking, and I 829 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 1: I assumed she's a very nice person, but she is, um. 830 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: She is probably history on the Lamb family trees. And 831 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: then the second one, and this might have even the 832 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: Lamb one got more play, but this one picked up steam. 833 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson, the offensive tackle uh drafted by the Titans. 834 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: You know, they had a close shot on him and 835 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: he was hunching his couch, big dude, and he's crying 836 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: when when the pick came in, and obviously, I mean 837 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: it was a real moment for him and his girlfriend. Uh, 838 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, she just sort of slowly puts her arms 839 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: around him and wants to just she puts her head 840 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: right in frame, tilts her head so that we all 841 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: see her face and she's not moving and work it's 842 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: a deep one to three count and she's not leaving. 843 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: We can't even see him, we can only see her face, right, 844 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: it's her moment, what's going on here? And then suddenly 845 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: you see a hand come in screen right and just 846 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: kind of grab her and you say, you get out 847 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: of this frame right now. And I mean presumably they 848 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: said it was his mom or aggressively aggressively and then 849 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: she's resisting and then just yanking her out of frame 850 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: and she gets up kind of wobbly and violently in 851 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: his throne, off the screen. And then suddenly a parade 852 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: of others coming and whom I thought, this is the 853 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: coolest thing I've seen um all weekend, and uh, these girlfriends, 854 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta play this moment. Well, I've never 855 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: been a girlfriend, so I don't know what the mentality 856 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: there is, but um, you gotta be more suit more 857 00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: savvy than that. It's not a jump effects, it's a 858 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: similar realm, just the idea of these cameras being set 859 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: up in the living rooms, and it does it just 860 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: makes you think because everyone's watching the same thing, and 861 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: you're watching all the analysis, um, all the everybody chiming 862 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: in with their thoughts. And when Jake From is falling 863 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: down the draft board, you know, especially when we get 864 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: into the mid to late rounds and they're looking for 865 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: what's the big story. Who's the quarterback that hasn't been 866 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: taken yet that people thought was gonna go Jake From 867 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: from State Farm. He was. He was hearing the same 868 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: conversation over and over again about how bad his combine 869 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: performance was and that how he had a nood alarm 870 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: and he was a guy that there's a reason why 871 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: he hasn't been taking yet because he's not an NFL quarterback. 872 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: And eventually he goes to the Bills, and good for him, 873 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: because don't tell Bills fans, but that's not a bad 874 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: place to go. And guess what it's like, that's tough. 875 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: He's sitting on a couch with all the closest people 876 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: in his life and and you're just like staring at 877 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: a screen and you're already in a bad mood. And 878 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,479 Speaker 1: then you have like Daniel Jeremy i A is saying 879 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: that you have a noodle arm, and it's like, oh, 880 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: this is good for my self esteem, and that's that's 881 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: a loser for me. It would the equivalent be if 882 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: you were being critiqued in front of your family on 883 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: a on a couch and as or any of us 884 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: a host or a podcaster, blogger type person. What is 885 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: the equivalent of adlem I don't know, but you had 886 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: you guys saw me in an uncomfortable situation yesterday in 887 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: my hand. Really well, you know, I did a nice job. 888 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: My beautiful wife had the great idea. It was a 889 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: great idea to assemble all like my closest friends on 890 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: both sides of the coast for a semi surprise zoom conversation. 891 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: And uh it happened, you know, the second round of 892 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: the draft. It started. It was like five o'clock and 893 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: I come into the living room when I get summoned 894 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: to come in, and then I see all of you guys. 895 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: I see Colleen Gonzo, Henry All, the you know, Erica Jet, 896 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: all the people I of on the West coast, but 897 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: then all my New York friends, and it was just 898 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: like kind of like a mash up that that left me, 899 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, deeply um uncomfortable. And Emily thought it was 900 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: gonna like turn into this thing where it was like 901 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: being at a party where everyone not everybody would know 902 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: each other, but we would all be connected in some way, 903 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: and then everybody would get along and it would become 904 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: a great old time. You could be hiding in the 905 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: kitchen in that scenario. Yeah, But I just I could not. 906 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: I could not. It couldn't, It wasn't gonna happen. I 907 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: just couldn't get comfortable. So I I ended it after 908 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: about ten minutes, and my wife was dumbfounded. But I 909 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: stand by my decision. But you guys seem to get 910 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: a kick out of my decision to essentially end my 911 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: own birthday party. I thought Greg had some incredible commentary 912 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: journey because he could sort of see and I think 913 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: we all know everyone in the on the call knows 914 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: you well enough to know that Number one, Emily put 915 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: a lot of work into it and that it was awesome. 916 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: I wrote her back. I said, awesome, wife, points you 917 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: did that, you put a lot of effort into that thing, 918 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: and so it's it's nothing to do with Emily. But 919 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: we all know that Dan's um sort of social comfort zone, 920 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: and Moores would not suggest that that would have been 921 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: where you're uh, you know that. Gregg picked up on 922 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 1: it and made a couple of comments that I couldn't 923 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: help it laughing. Well, I I felt Dan, I think 924 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: we all would I knowing the three of us, maybe 925 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: not West, but me and Mark and I would have 926 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: I would have felt the same as you, Dan, and 927 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: not in a bad way, but just I would have 928 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable and I wouldn't know what to do, and 929 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: I would feel like everyone was like looking at me, 930 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: and I would have like so I could, I could 931 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 1: feel it. And knowing you, I knew that you wouldn't 932 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: have set up the party exactly like this. You would 933 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: have had a certain, you know, way to do this, 934 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: and I would have yeah you would have did yeah, 935 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: so right, like everyone understood. But it was still funny 936 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,760 Speaker 1: to see you, like multiple times aggressively trying to shut 937 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: it down. And it was only like it only lasted 938 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: like eight or nine, and it only was just like, wait, 939 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: we're ending this, and like I was like, there's gonna 940 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: be some explain need to do. But you know, someone 941 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: was sitting right next to me. She's like, she's very 942 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: much like you in that front. She's just like, I 943 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,919 Speaker 1: totally get where dance coming. There was a moment right 944 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 1: after I clicked end meeting where I could tell I 945 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: was watching the gears turning in Emily's head like and 946 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: she was deciding whether to be mad at me or not. 947 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 1: And and luckily she decided not to be mad because 948 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 1: I explained it to her and I think she understood. 949 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: And then shortly after we I got on and did 950 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 1: about an hour plus with all my New York friends, 951 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: and I think we were planning potentially for um, all 952 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: the West Coasters to do something after the show today. UM. 953 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: And that's just way better to me anyway. But it 954 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 1: was a great thought. I appreciate you want to quote 955 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: that I did send to the Creve Tech, which is 956 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,479 Speaker 1: one of the things you said to us standard because 957 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 1: Dan said, I want to talk to you all individually soon, 958 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have to let you go. See there's 959 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: a very specific reason why I would have been just 960 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: as uncomfortable as you guys in this situation. Okay, if 961 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 1: you put all of those people in the same building, 962 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be uncomfortable at all. But the technology does 963 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: not exist where side conversations can happen on site, right, 964 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: So everybody's just waiting their turn, and half the people 965 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: don't know each other. Dana did all the talking to 966 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: You had to like finesse and talk to boxes of people, 967 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: and it's like, how are you doing, Sally. Good to 968 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 1: see you, Sally. I'm so happy it's over. Alright, let's 969 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: let's get back on track here while we're while we're 970 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: kind of off football and I do have a couple 971 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 1: of quick football ones. But while while you were talking DJ, 972 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,760 Speaker 1: I think I'm not just kissing up. I think Daniel 973 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: Jeremiah is a big winner. I know he's taking some 974 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: heat on this podcast, but you put him not only um, 975 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: is this the highest rated draft of all time, but 976 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: it's the only one where like, I've never watched the 977 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: ESPN draft because I just happened to you know, I 978 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: always watch NFL Network. I'm sure there's a lot of 979 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: people that normally watch ESPN that this time they get 980 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: exposed to the NFL Network one, and it's the mashup 981 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,959 Speaker 1: of all the analysts and the experts, and I don't 982 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: thing I'm biased. DJ is better than everyone. So I 983 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: feel like ESPN is watching that, and I feel like 984 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: everyone's watching that, and I can't be there. And I'm 985 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 1: sure some people would disagree. But just what DJ needs 986 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: more job offers, I think right exactly. I think there's 987 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: will be a lot of people, including inside of our industry, 988 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: that will look at that and go DJ was the 989 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: best one on that screen. Well, I could see DJ 990 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: suddenly getting vaulted into this um eternal money and all 991 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: conversation at some point. I mean, he he honestly, he's 992 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: He's great at it. He prepared for it, and every 993 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: time they threw it to him, he nailed it. And 994 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 1: he also the problem is, although we have this um 995 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: so called feud with him, he's too nice to truly 996 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 1: have a problem. You're on the fence. As the podcast, 997 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: he's a terrible podcast. There were you know, we don't 998 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: need to get that. We don't know about that, but 999 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's got to start one, right. 1000 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: But but in terms of doing this, it was great, No, 1001 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: he did, he did a very fine job. And I 1002 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: was trying to explain to Emily actually she was like, so, 1003 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 1: how's this the than other years, UM, And I was like, well, actually, 1004 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: NFL network does their own draft coverage and ESPN does 1005 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: their own draft coverages. She was like, that's pretty weird. 1006 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: And then I thought about it too. It's like, that 1007 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: is pretty weird that there's competing draft coverages of the 1008 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: same event. But that's always how it's been in a 1009 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: change this year. Thought the same thing when NFL Network 1010 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: started their coverage, UM, but it ended up being kind 1011 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: of like a big hit at for ANNIFL network. I 1012 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: guess what. NFL Network does have Daniel Jeremiah and they 1013 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: will have him, hopefully god willing, next April as well. 1014 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: All right, I want to do you want to do 1015 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: some like kind of quick hitters? Yeah, all right, go ahead, 1016 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: West quick hitter winner Handsome Hank. Since I've known him, 1017 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: he's been a fan of the most boring team in 1018 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: the NFL. They haven't always been the worst team, but 1019 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: they've lacked direction, they've been boring, they've been uninspiring. And 1020 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 1: this is so all it's it's so risky that it 1021 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 1: could all blow up. But They're finally interesting. The Miami Dolphins. Then, 1022 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins are finally interesting, thank you, dan Um. 1023 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: And they have so many players. They have so many 1024 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,479 Speaker 1: young players because of the draft picks I think they got. 1025 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 1: They have more than twice the amount of players at 1026 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers on the roster. They are loaded with players. 1027 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: They go too deep but long snapper to me, just 1028 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: the Dolphins are finally interesting, and I like it. I 1029 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 1: think they have the right coach to kind of coach 1030 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: up a young group like this, especially on defense. Brian 1031 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: Flores like, you're gonna have to be a teacher when 1032 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: almost your whole rosters rookies and second year players. And 1033 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: you're right, they look a lot more fun than they 1034 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: did a few days ago. Louser and it's it's you know, 1035 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: I think Greg was right. The more you hear about 1036 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,240 Speaker 1: Yaniknagoquay that um, he had been a really model citizen 1037 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars for a long time, but things have 1038 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: come to a head and he wanted out. And you know, 1039 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: while Trent Williams got moved out of town, Nagakway is 1040 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: still in Jacksonville, and they've said, you know, hey, we'd 1041 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: welcome back with open arms. But it just feels like 1042 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: a pretty messy situation. And I think that in another world, 1043 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: or in a different type of draft and with with 1044 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: different needs and different players available, maybe someone would have 1045 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: made a play firm. We thought maybe Seattle would have 1046 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: been one of those guys. It's still possible to some degree, 1047 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: but it doesn't look good. It sounds like there were 1048 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: just no offers at all. G MP, here's a loser, 1049 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,879 Speaker 1: like mean spirited, slash thoughtless takedowns of coaches and personnel men. 1050 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 1: Now that we've seen them smiling and bonding with their children, 1051 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: great days, all these like cute kids, these you know, toddlers, uh, 1052 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: grade school teenagers, and then they come into the room 1053 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,320 Speaker 1: with the with the wives and they have their sharing 1054 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: these bonding moments. Belichick's dog, it's kind of even Belichick's 1055 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 1: dog was in the mix and made you think Belichick 1056 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: was human. But like, can we really like take down 1057 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: Bob Quinn after seeing him I five his son and 1058 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,399 Speaker 1: then hug his daughter after thinking he nailed the pick. 1059 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 1: I don't like this. It makes me feel and I 1060 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: don't want to feel. Give me six yeah that um, 1061 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: and then I'll throw out one more. Any potential attempt, 1062 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,919 Speaker 1: not that I think it's happening, but of a Bill 1063 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,280 Speaker 1: O'Brien image makeover, then I'm not this like mean, prickly 1064 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 1: guy that's impossible to work with. He was caught off 1065 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: camera on Friday night, uh, cursing at someone on a phone. 1066 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,879 Speaker 1: On the phone. It was supposed to be just like 1067 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: and yes, GM's across the league or hard at work, 1068 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 1: and it just happened to hit on Bill O'Brien when 1069 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 1: he was looked like yelling and cursing at someone about something, 1070 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: and that he stood up and kind of stalked off screen, 1071 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: passed his own son and and kind of crossed over 1072 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: the Cameron. Clearly he was fired up. And then the 1073 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: great John McClain um, who's been you know, covering football 1074 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: down there forever, tweeted moments later. Texans had a deal 1075 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 1: with Detroit for the ninety pick, but Lions backed out 1076 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: at last instant, and Bill O'Brien was furious, you can 1077 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: tell by his reaction on TV, and they selected an 1078 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: outside linebacker instead. So Bill O'Brien, who doesn't have the 1079 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, the dis reputation, it seems like, Uh, that 1080 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 1: was not a great time. Lions denied this aggressively on 1081 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: the record too for what if. But it was really 1082 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: funny to see the his son to not change his 1083 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: expression the whole time, watching watching before I'll roll through 1084 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: a few quick winner qbs, Jared's did him. I didn't 1085 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: think the Patriots were gonna take a quarterback. They didn't. Um, 1086 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: they added some tight ends. We'll see, but they believe 1087 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 1: in Jared's did. Whether they're right or wrong, like we've 1088 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: been saying that on this podcast, I think that that's 1089 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: their guy. They were not looking for the a fourth 1090 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,760 Speaker 1: rounder for Andy Dalton be done with a charade, thank you. 1091 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if he's been in their building and they 1092 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 1: like him, it's like why not? Why not? But you're right, 1093 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: they could use a backup that I mean broad not 1094 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: one passed and they went out and signed Cody Kessler. 1095 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, they cut him, Yeah, they cut 1096 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: they cut Coding. I mean when when they finally let 1097 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,439 Speaker 1: Jared's did him throw a pass? He threw one pass? 1098 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 1: And then they're like, oh, we need to sign Cody Cusler. 1099 00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 1: We could back at this point to we could maybe uh, 1100 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers gets you know, Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pittman Jr. 1101 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: In the second round. That offense is looking. But I 1102 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: think that's a team that could compete for a Super 1103 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: Bowl West if things broke right did not exist, I 1104 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: would agree with you right. You know they're they're playing 1105 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,920 Speaker 1: from behind. And then Jared Goff I like their second 1106 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: round uh picks running back and receiver to especially Cam 1107 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: Akers who was stuck in like a terrible situation at 1108 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 1: Florida State, which was a nightmare. But if you like 1109 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: the moves he makes, he reminded me a little bit 1110 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 1: of of Devin Singletary. Just a guy who's gonna make 1111 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: you miss in a small corner. And and um, and 1112 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: they take Van Jefferson, who DJ compared, you know, directly 1113 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: to Cooper Cup leading up to the draft, and now 1114 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: he's going to be with Cooper Cup. Mark. I would 1115 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 1: just like to bring someone in who this whole draft, 1116 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: he did not get a chance to hang out with 1117 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: his dad. This is Caledon. It's his birthday today, beautiful boy, 1118 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: eight years old? How old? How's your birthday so far today? 1119 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 1: What did you just spake for everyone when you had 1120 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: to bake on your own birth Kids love baking. He 1121 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 1: loves to bake. He loves to bake, so part of 1122 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: his one of his gifts he got was a big 1123 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: cooking tray and all this other stuff. Right, So, what 1124 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 1: do you think of the Brown's draft? Calton, the Brown's draft? 1125 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: What do you think? Thumbs up? What about? So let's 1126 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 1: show him your shirt? Real fast is a big Eagles fans. 1127 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: So now we were a lot of people were upset 1128 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,240 Speaker 1: with the Eagles draft. Were you how do you feel? 1129 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: You're good? Okay, okay, see he's not gonna be hysterical 1130 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: about it. Old great. So you've got a lot of 1131 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, you've got a lot of experience on the world. 1132 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,240 Speaker 1: So that shows right here. Well, happy birthday, buddy, Happy 1133 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 1: birthday another April boy, we'll see okay. Um a quick winner. 1134 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: Arizona real estate the cliff Very, which everybody was talking about, 1135 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 1: was one of the biggest stories that night. Draft one. 1136 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 1: The La Times wrote about it, and there were some 1137 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: people like, oh yeah, yeah, it goes real far in Arizona. 1138 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 1: I bet he paid three k for that place. And 1139 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 1: I was like, what, Well, guess what. Kingsbury dropped four 1140 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: point four or five million dollars on the mansion last year. 1141 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 1: A few months after joining the Cardinals on that four 1142 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: year contract. And here here's the specs, spanning over an 1143 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: acre in Paradise Valley. The seven thousand square foot home 1144 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: sits about twenty miles east of the team stadium in Glendale. 1145 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: It boasts four bedrooms and five and a half bathrooms 1146 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 1: in seven thousand square feet, as well as an entertainer's 1147 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: backyard complete with a swimming pool, pool house, and fire 1148 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: pit surrounded by patches of turf. Well, thank you, taxpayers 1149 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: of Texas funding the ten million dollar you know, college 1150 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: coach at Texas A and m for however long he 1151 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: was there. It's like and go. And speaking of Texas, 1152 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: my final uh, my final winner. I was very happy 1153 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 1: with my New York Jets, who had had a solid draft, 1154 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: and with Joe Douglas as the GM. It does feel 1155 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: like there's a grown up in the room making decisions. 1156 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: I love the tackle they got in the first round, 1157 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: but then a savvy move. It turned out he moved 1158 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: back in the second round, and everybody's screaming draft Denzel 1159 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 1: Mims had a Baylor Greg's boy and he uh, and 1160 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 1: he moved back. It's like, oh, he's gonna miss out. 1161 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: He got Mims anyway after moving back about ten spots, 1162 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: and then they filled in some needs later in the 1163 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: draft as well. It seems like a draft that UH 1164 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: could turn out well. And they they're they're two biggest 1165 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: most important things they need to do is improve the 1166 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: offensive line, and they added to linemen, including the eleventh 1167 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: overall pick. They desperately needed to replace Robbie Anderson, and 1168 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: now Mims enters the picture. And Mims, Perryman and Crowder. 1169 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: Maybe not the best wide receiver group in the world, 1170 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: but there's potential there. UH, and I feel much better 1171 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: about the Jets offense. We'll see if Adam Gates room all, 1172 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: but we'll find out. And is one other big winner 1173 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 1: speaking of Texas, it is Bob Bates DDS retired. He 1174 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: is my father in law and he joins us first 1175 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: time ever on the Around the NFL podcast and he 1176 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: is sporting his Baylor Bears sick compares. Yeah, welcome to 1177 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: my father in law, Bob Bates. Welcome to the Around 1178 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. What a moment for you and I 1179 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: for Denzel Men from the New York Jeff United, Hey man, 1180 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: Big and Marks. You guys have been busy last couple 1181 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 1: of days. Yeah, Mark couldn't be more excited about Denzel 1182 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 1: MIM's going to the Jets now. Dan asked to get 1183 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: me some jets here so I can wear down here. Absolutely. Well, 1184 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 1: you know we we previously had a potential to bond 1185 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: on Bryce Petty. We won't talk about that, I work out, 1186 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: but he was operating in that old set offense after Taylor, 1187 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: the map rule offense is a little more pro oriented. Why, Bob, 1188 00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: and this is there are a lot of Jets fans 1189 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: that listen to the show. Why were you pounding the table? 1190 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Why did you think Denzel Mims was a guy who 1191 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: could be a star at this level. Well, he's always 1192 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 1: been underrated. Uh, even when he was in high school. 1193 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: He was a great high school player at dangerled for 1194 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: you high school least Texas, and he wasn't highly recruited 1195 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: in Texas. And uh, he went to a Butler camp 1196 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 1: and they got him. And make a long story short, 1197 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 1: he was like a six three guy with a hundred 1198 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: eighty pounds, but he was a track store, basketball store 1199 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: and just they saw the athletics him, so they grabbed him. 1200 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: In the first year Butler, he did a little bit 1201 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: as a freshman and sophomore year he was a he 1202 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 1: was a thousand yard receiver. As junior year he had 1203 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 1: a broken hand. Nobody really knew about that kind of 1204 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: limited his his productivity. And then his senior he had 1205 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 1: a great senior year and great Sugar Bowl he had 1206 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: five catches. And then of course you guys all been 1207 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 1: reported on his you know how great he was at 1208 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and the combine. I mean, good grief, 1209 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 1: he went and in a four three eight or something 1210 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 1: like that and did all those other things. Well, and uh, 1211 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: he's just tough, and he's a he's a humble guy. 1212 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Uh he did all the right things that never got 1213 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: in trouble, went to class, community service. You know, he's 1214 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: he's he's just a good guy and he's very humble. 1215 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,439 Speaker 1: And uh, I noticed one of the things that kind 1216 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: of I thought it was funny last night when he 1217 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 1: got picked that one of the first things the commentator 1218 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: said was, well, he'll have to get over and get 1219 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 1: over that boler offense or whatever. Hey, Matt rule came 1220 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: in and they ran a pro stile of offense. So 1221 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: what you have to get over I don't know, but uh, 1222 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 1: you know he's doing real, well, he runs routes. But 1223 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 1: I think one of the most impressive things to me, 1224 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 1: and not only his attitude and then humble and hungry, 1225 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 1: is that those fifty fifty balls, man, he'll get him. 1226 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: He goes after him. I didn't mess with anybody. Jests. 1227 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: Haven't had a guy like that in a while. Again, yeah, 1228 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: I told you Bob knows that he's talking about. Well, 1229 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: you know I knew about bo boone had a good 1230 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 1: day to day. Besides Moms, you know, they had some 1231 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: other players, James Lynch, braveyon Roy and then Clad Johnston's 1232 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 1: picked so because it did break Bob's heart when Rule left, 1233 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 1: but then you know, you know, the Rule did say 1234 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,439 Speaker 1: when he came in, he was up front. He's never 1235 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 1: hidding the fact that he want have been an NFL 1236 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 1: coach and uh and you know he was up front 1237 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: about it, and uh, we all knew it was a 1238 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 1: matter of time. But he you know, he did a great, 1239 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: great service for Bowler, and I think Boler did a 1240 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: great service for him getting into the Big twelve. He 1241 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 1: could you have a national spotlight, but you know, I 1242 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 1: would assu nothing most the best and you know, braveyon Roy, 1243 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 1: Boler went to the Carolina Panthers today, So that'll be 1244 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 1: pretty cool to what's that too? So are you gonna 1245 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 1: feel any pressure? Though? You know when the falcon I'm 1246 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: with you. I'm no expert. These gms are obviously a 1247 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 1: lot smarter. I couldn't understand why Denzel Mims wouldn't have 1248 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 1: gone much earlier than fifty nine based on I mean, 1249 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 1: the athleticism and the bos skills are outrageous. But are 1250 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: you gonna feel a little little pressure? Is now your guy? 1251 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 1: You know in the fall and next year you know 1252 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna be synonymous with Denzel minds. Oh man, I'm 1253 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: not worried about that. He's gonna he's gonna make Sam 1254 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: Donald look good. All right, Well that's that's fine with me, Bob. 1255 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 1: They can maybe they can take down the Patriots. That 1256 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 1: would be nice that that's been about two decades overdue. Um, 1257 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: well all right, so this is uh, thank you again, Bob. 1258 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: This gave me something. Uh it was my birthday weekend 1259 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: and and when the pick came out, you know, we 1260 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: had been clocking Denzel mill Ben's for a while. So 1261 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 1: now that he's a jet and will likely to be 1262 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 1: a starter for them, all things considered, it's gonna be 1263 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: very cool all pro in a Hall of Famer. So 1264 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 1: could I just say one thing, yes, Chris Uh, congratulations 1265 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: on three fronts, one of them beating the big Sea. 1266 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Want I'm getting her in to Lukasia and I want 1267 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 1: him the baby coming along. We uh, We're all watching 1268 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 1: you and appreciate you. Thank you, Bob. That's very very heartfelt, 1269 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 1: very genuine, and thank you. Appreciate You're welcome and we're 1270 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: doing a good job. We love you. Thank you, Bob, 1271 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,880 Speaker 1: Bob Bait. He's one of the best people I've ever known. 1272 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have in my life. So thank you, 1273 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 1: Bob Bates uh for including your daughter. Thank you. All right, 1274 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 1: Bob Bates CDs retired from Texas. That was very good. 1275 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 1: That's what I was looking for. Suddenly, Spice Rack, you know, 1276 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 1: he's feeling a little disturbance in the forts right now. 1277 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of which should should we get? Should Spice Rack 1278 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 1: be a winner or should uh should old McDonald be 1279 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 1: a winner? Forget forget not making the you know the 1280 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: list of Bob mcginnon quarterbacks. Old McDonald is drafted and 1281 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 1: he's a Tennessee Titan. There you go you know what, 1282 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: where where did he go? Fifth round? Seventh round? But 1283 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 1: even you know, even that I think was maybe a mild, 1284 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 1: mild surprise. He goes to the Titans. That's it's a 1285 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 1: decent landing spot. You know, maybe maybe Tannehill's a flash 1286 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 1: in the pan and uh, all of a sudden he's 1287 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 1: playing big snaps and the Spicy a lot riding on 1288 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 1: that for spicy, They've got a vacancy in that two 1289 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: spot after Mariotta went to the Raiders. I got one 1290 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 1: more quick winner. Yea, the tiny sliver of the ven 1291 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: diagram that includes Patriots fans, special teams lovers, and people 1292 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: who like to watch Dynasty's burn. Okay, what that sounds good? 1293 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean he got all these needs you have on offenses, Like, no, 1294 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 1: we'll just take a bunch of linebackers who can play 1295 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 1: special teams. That's that's all we need. Well, they got 1296 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: a kicker, West, Are you not impressed with that pick up? Yeah, 1297 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's great. I don't know about his choice 1298 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 1: and tattoos, but I'm sure he's a great kicker. Wasn't 1299 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots? The first pick from the Patriots was like 1300 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: the first D two guy to go in the second 1301 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 1: round in a long time was something you're not. Yeah, 1302 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 1: they I think we literally made a joke about this 1303 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 1: last week that they're going to trade out of the 1304 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 1: first round and take a guy from like a mad 1305 01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: from like a made up school. And they took a 1306 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,840 Speaker 1: guy from leonore Rhyme Ryan, I don't even know a 1307 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 1: D two school. Yes, he was the highest highest one, 1308 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Kyle Dugger. And then they took a bunch of Michigan, 1309 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 1: a tough bunch of build ttments with a little pooch 1310 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,919 Speaker 1: on his lap. But I'll tell you this kicker pick, 1311 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: and they took him in the same round they took Gustkowski, 1312 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: not on my scouttering report fifteen years ago, wasn't even 1313 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,439 Speaker 1: listed as like one of the top ten or twelve. 1314 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 1: But this pick upset me more than I think Gronk 1315 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 1: and and Brady being in uh breen in Tampa, because 1316 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 1: one of the things they have is a kicker legacy, 1317 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 1: and you're taking a guy with this with this, I mean, 1318 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: I learned about you know the three uh what is 1319 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 1: it called today, But you're taking a guy that needs 1320 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 1: to answer questions about his alt right tattoo in his 1321 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 1: introductory press conference. He did explain that he didn't know 1322 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 1: what it meant when he got the tattoo, but I 1323 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 1: don't know, how do you stumble into that well? And 1324 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 1: then he said, Okay, I'm gonna cover it. Now. It's like, 1325 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 1: yeah and on for like five years, so I'm I'm 1326 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: not really enjoying this. The counterpoint really fit in well 1327 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 1: with a as West would say, a portion of the 1328 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: ven diagram of Patriots fans that feel just a tad 1329 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 1: and meat hetty. I think he's gotta worry worry about 1330 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,439 Speaker 1: fitting in that locker room. Are you talking about the 1331 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 1: gods contingent? I mean that's you know, I'm not saying 1332 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: that I know them personally, but I I've heard stories. 1333 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 1: So all right, good stuff, guys. Did we cover everything? 1334 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,439 Speaker 1: We don't want to leave anything out. Any other kind 1335 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 1: of storylines from the draft. We'll we'll cover it all 1336 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 1: the week. I have a feeling we're going to do 1337 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: another show at some point here. We do have We 1338 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 1: are actually now with the draft. Um now in the 1339 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 1: rear view, we are going to go away from the 1340 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 1: uh daily model during the week. Don't be upset, but 1341 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna still give you three shows a week. Um 1342 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: this week we will they move away from Monday to 1343 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,959 Speaker 1: Friday format. I'm sure we'll be back at it sooner 1344 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 1: rather than later. It's kind of like we all decided 1345 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna play it by ear so, but this week 1346 01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna do either two or three shows, and and 1347 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 1: then after this week will be three a week until 1348 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: I would imagine things start to ramp up. Uh come 1349 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: training camp hopefully. And we appreciate everyone who we know, 1350 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 1: even putting out a lot, and we appreciate like the 1351 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 1: people that are listening every day. It's kind of amazing 1352 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,720 Speaker 1: like that we can put out daily at this time 1353 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: of year and people are still listening. But yes, the 1354 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: news is gonna get it's gonna get quiet. It's a 1355 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 1: it's a quiet time of the year for the NFL 1356 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 1: in any year, much less much less this one. Well, 1357 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna just say it was a year ago 1358 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,880 Speaker 1: that you know, we we'd finished this podcast, and we 1359 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,640 Speaker 1: viewed that as the beginning, the genuine beginning of the 1360 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 1: off season, and we and the four of us and 1361 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 1: others went down to uh Old Rockos there in Culver City, 1362 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 1: and West was recorded drinking something called a fruity bubbly explosion. Um, 1363 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 1: that won't be happening today. And I actually genuinely miss 1364 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 1: our crew being able to hang out at this time 1365 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 1: of year from here until training camp, and it's a 1366 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 1: it's something we look forward to. It's a really different world. 1367 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 1: And I think what's so different is at this point, 1368 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 1: with the draft out of the way, we don't know, 1369 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,640 Speaker 1: we move into a wilderness and I just hope that 1370 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 1: there's something at the other on the other end of 1371 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:11,200 Speaker 1: it football wise. Yeah, it's it's this time of year 1372 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 1: that really made me. Except l A in California when 1373 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 1: I moved out here, this this May through mid July 1374 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,839 Speaker 1: section that we get every year has been the highlight 1375 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 1: of living in l A for me. And and I wonder, 1376 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen this year, Well, you get a baby 1377 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,559 Speaker 1: this year that well, yeah, that's that's that's gonna be great. Yeah, 1378 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 1: But you don't do that any city coinsides this, the 1379 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 1: shuttering of outside uh interaction. It's going to actually work 1380 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: out for you on a small level. Fist, You're gonna 1381 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 1: be inside regardless of what the laws of the city. 1382 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: That's true. Although you do have that nice, big backyard, 1383 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, throwing, throwing an infant just in the middle 1384 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,439 Speaker 1: of a backyard and kinda. I mean it's not bad. 1385 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 1: It's not a bad place for an infant. Child proof 1386 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 1: that areas, it's pretty child proofing the way he's getting 1387 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,760 Speaker 1: out that little side garage. Just keep Brassie out of there. 1388 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 1: That'll that's how you can tell. Oh yeah, miss I 1389 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 1: miss all our old friends at the NFL media. So 1390 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 1: hopefully this all UH starts to move inch its way 1391 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 1: back toward normality. And to be quite honest, doing three 1392 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 1: shows a week during this time of year what was 1393 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 1: normal for us before. So we're sticking with what we've 1394 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 1: always done in the past. So thank you to everybody 1395 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 1: for listening. UH. You are the best. We really appreciate you, 1396 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 1: and we will be back. I don't know when we 1397 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 1: come back. Tuesday, Wednesday, one of those days you'll hear 1398 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 1: from us our next show, so please be there to 1399 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,639 Speaker 1: listen to it. This is Dan hands As signing off 1400 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 1: for Quiet Storr and the Mailman. The Old Boss Ricky 1401 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 1: Hollywood Bob Bates d D has retired on till Tuesday 1402 01:10:46,000 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 1: or one second spe