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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire? Fam HiT's me Jason McIntire Straight Fire for Friday,

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Speaker 2: December eighth. Oh boy, great podcast to end the week.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling it. Ladies and gentlemen. Oh my goodness, so

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Speaker 2: many good places to start. I will start by talking

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Speaker 2: about we have an awesome interview with everybody's favorite NFL

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Speaker 2: gambling guy, David Baker. He's the one who has won

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Speaker 2: one of those Vegas contests, finished second, like the guy's good.

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Speaker 2: And we break down week fourteen. We recorded Thursday before

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Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football. He said he was gonna put Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: in Survivor and I was like, oh no, don't do it.

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Speaker 2: And well, you guys know what happened. Pittsburgh Steelers embarrassed

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Speaker 2: by the pay. Will break that down. Lebron a big win,

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Speaker 2: did something Michael Jordan never did, which is win a

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Speaker 2: semifinal game and then the season tournament he will face

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Halibert him. You like that Tyrese Haliburton, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: how good was he? But I gotta start, obviously with

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Speaker 2: the the great Foxes. Yes, yes, yes, I'll give you

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds of the Great Foxes. We played the semifinals

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Speaker 2: against Timofey Mosgov, former NBA player, and I was nervous

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Speaker 2: about the game. We had three guys out and then

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Speaker 2: one of our seven or we had, yeah, three guys out.

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Speaker 2: When one of our core players shows up in jeans.

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Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, my CAP's hurting. I can't play. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, we're in trouble. And then I go

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Speaker 2: and the ref heard me, and the ref goes, they've

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Speaker 2: only got five. You're good, Jay. I was like, oh, okay.

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Speaker 2: So then we proceed to beat up on Mosgov. He

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Speaker 2: was awesome. He got a few dunks. In the middle

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Speaker 2: of the game. I said to him, I go, Mosgov,

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Speaker 2: what do you think will happen more? What's a higher

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Speaker 2: number you're dunks or my threes? And he goes percentage

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Speaker 2: and I started laughing. I was like, no, because I'm

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Speaker 2: going to have been some shots. He's a super nice guy.

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Speaker 2: Everybody likes him. He probably had thirty five, but we

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Speaker 2: won one hundred to fifty six. And where the finals

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Speaker 2: against the young guys. Should be a pro boy should

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Speaker 2: be a barn burner. I would like to instagram live

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Speaker 2: it but I don't know we could lose. They're good anyways.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of losing, the New England Patriots won, but they lost.

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Speaker 2: They go to Pittsburgh somehow scored twenty one points in

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Speaker 2: the first half even though they can't score ever beat

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, and yet they lose because they now are

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Speaker 2: tied for the second draft pick with Arizona. And don't

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Speaker 2: tell me about tie breakers, don't tell me about any

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Speaker 2: of that. With four games left, the Patriots just hurt themselves.

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Speaker 2: And I will always go back to this. I'll never

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Speaker 2: forget it. I was here out in LA. The Jets

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Speaker 2: are playing the Rams. It's the Trevor Lawrence Sweepstakes. The

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Speaker 2: Jets are leading the entire season because they're winless, and

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Speaker 2: the dumb Jets go out and beat the Rams. I

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Speaker 2: think it was like twenty to nineteen or some low score,

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Speaker 2: but it was like the Jets were like celebrating, we

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Speaker 2: beat the Ray. It was like that Adam Gayze years

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Speaker 2: or something, and they're all celebrating, and I get it.

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Speaker 2: They celebrate, they want great, but the franchise lost. The

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Speaker 2: Jets end up losing out on Trevor Lawrence. They get

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Speaker 2: the number two pick, which is Zach Wilson, and I

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Speaker 2: don't need to say anymore. I don't know that the

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Speaker 2: Patriots lost that badly because there's four games left. But

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Speaker 2: when you look at their schedule, the New England Patriots

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Speaker 2: possibly can win two more games, one of them against

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Speaker 2: my Jets in the regular season finale. They're not beating

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, probably not next week, and then they play Denver,

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Speaker 2: which listen, Denver's not good. They go to Denver Sunday

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Speaker 2: Night football, and then New Year's Eve they go to Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: and Buffalo has dominated them in recent years, so I

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Speaker 2: think that's a loss. If they win two more games, folks,

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Speaker 2: they're not gonna be getting Drake May. They will fall

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Speaker 2: out of the number two spot. And I know people

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Speaker 2: don't want to hear this and they hate that, but

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Speaker 2: the reality is, Bailey Zappi did them no favors by

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Speaker 2: slinging it all over the field in an ugly game.

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Speaker 2: I told my brothers start Ezekiel Elliott in his fantasy playoffs.

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Speaker 2: By the way, for his buddies who listened to this,

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Speaker 2: I helped him through the draft. He was nine to zero,

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Speaker 2: funny like when Kenny Pickett was healthy, I said, I

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Speaker 2: Like they got a defense, they've got receivers, they dumped

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Speaker 2: of the three worst teams in the league record wise.

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Speaker 2: a playoff spot with this game, Rob.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not looking great, especially we consider how bunched

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Speaker 3: up the AFC is.

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Speaker 3: Remember the first game without Matt ca Canada when they

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Speaker 3: everyone's like, see, I told you Canada was the problem.

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Speaker 3: Canada is the problem. Canada is a problem. And now

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Speaker 3: you know, caveat being that Kenny Pickett is out injured.

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Speaker 3: But last night, if I'm reading this correctly, if my

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Speaker 3: almost positive that it is. Pittsburgh finished with two hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixty four yards against the Patriots the week after,

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Speaker 3: or give me the week before against Arizona again, both

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Speaker 3: of these games at home where you should have an advantage.

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Speaker 3: It's your home turf, you know where the blades of

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Speaker 3: grass are longer at this portion of the end zone

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Speaker 3: and what have you? Three seventeen so did things ever

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Speaker 3: really change?

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Speaker 2: Was?

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Speaker 3: Was matt Canada really the problem? Or do they have

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Speaker 3: some other fundamental issues within their offense and their structure,

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Speaker 3: One of them being that Najie Harris looks like he's

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Speaker 3: The other being that George Pickens doesn't seem to try

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Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson is just as likely to have a sideline outbursts,

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Speaker 3: frustration because of how bad things are going. It's like,

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Speaker 3: there's a number of reasons why this team struggled. It's

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Speaker 3: not just one thing. It's not just the coordinator, it's

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Speaker 3: that you would think, based on talent, would suggest that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very bizarre. By the way, the Patriots run defense

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Speaker 2: is good. Like Harris couldn't get off track, Jayleen Warren

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Speaker 2: did do nothing. But you mentioned Pickens. I purposely pulled

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Speaker 2: him in fantasy from all three of my teams. I

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Speaker 2: love Pickens. This year he was hot and cold. Somebody

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Speaker 2: posted his next gen stats route tree. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: he ran farther than ten yards down the field one

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Speaker 2: all game. That's it. It was all short stuff, like

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Speaker 2: what are we doing? I don't know. Pittsburgh is brutal,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sorry that I hyped them a couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: This is an unwatchable team. Let's quickly pivot to the

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Speaker 2: NBA before we get to Baker. The in season tournament

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Speaker 2: is just totally popping off. The NBA did a great job.

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Speaker 2: They only scheduled two games, both in Vegas and the

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Speaker 2: Pacers Bucks started early out here west and West coast time.

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Speaker 2: And folks, if you took my bet Pacers plus four

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Speaker 2: and a half, easy, easy winner, they were dominant in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. I mean, this team looks so good.

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Speaker 2: Rob Tybreez, Halliburton. You know, everybody's talking a star is born,

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Speaker 2: just I don't think Milwaukee can get any stops at

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Speaker 2: all with this team. So everybody's like, oh, they got

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Speaker 2: a trade for Caruso. What are they giving up? They

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Speaker 2: got nothing giving up to get Caruso. Nothing, That's all

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Speaker 2: I kept hearing from NBA fans. Oh we got to

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Speaker 2: get a defender, Well let's get Caruso. Like you have

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Speaker 2: nothing the Bulls would want like first round picks on

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Speaker 2: the Bucks. They don't mean anything. What do I want

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Speaker 2: I think the Bulls could probably get something good for Caruso.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be in demand, great to plus defender, not

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Speaker 2: like a ball hog doesn't need the ball. But like,

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Speaker 2: I like Caruso a lot, and folks, this Pacers team

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Speaker 2: is gonna be plucky. I'm not kidding. They got some

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Speaker 2: young dudes who are just spicy. Now, we did like

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Speaker 2: other than Miles Turner, who feels like the veteran, they're

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Speaker 2: just like fast, let's run and jump and attack and

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Speaker 2: Matherin I like a lot. They didn't even shoot it great.

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Speaker 2: But Haliburton twenty seven fifteen assists zero turnovers, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the guy's a killer Johannis at thirty seven. But I

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Speaker 2: an absolute blood bath. Now that was a misbread by me.

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Speaker 2: I thought the Pels would be a mad bad matchup.

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Speaker 2: And I'm playing my men's league game, which started like

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Speaker 2: around six point thirty, and I instantly said to the scorekeeper, like,

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Speaker 2: a Lakers score? You know, Like I'm running back down

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Speaker 2: the court. He's like, Lakers up. It looks like it's over.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what really? First half and the Lakers

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Speaker 2: third quarter. They're locked in, rob I didn't watch enough

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Speaker 2: of this. Lebron had a historically great game, apparently, what

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Speaker 3: I saw a team in New Orleans that looked like

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Speaker 3: they got broken mentally and emotionally, like they were in

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Speaker 3: it for about a quarter, and then midway through the second,

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Speaker 3: the Lakers push it up to ten. They make a

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Speaker 3: up to twelve thirteen, and at that moment, you could

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Speaker 3: just feel the emotional bridge whatever that they have in

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Speaker 3: New Orleans just crumble right in front of him. Zion

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Speaker 3: Williamson looked like the shell of himself. I don't even

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Speaker 3: didn't look like he wanted any part of what Lebron,

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Speaker 3: James and Anthony Davis were doing to him and honestly,

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Speaker 3: it was a little bit disappointing as much as I'm

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Speaker 3: a Laker fan and i'd like to see them win,

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Speaker 3: and you know we're coming for the n Season Tournament

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Speaker 3: Cup and all that stuff, like you want to see

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Speaker 3: good basketball and to see a team just fold like that,

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Speaker 3: that easily, that quickly. The fact that Lebron had thirty

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Speaker 3: like we need a little bit more than that. And

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Speaker 3: Tyre's Halliburn, you mentioned he's bawling out of control right now,

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Speaker 3: You wonder who it is?

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Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait Magic? No, no, Magic

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Speaker 2: wouldn't score fifty penny Hardaway, No, is he playing currently

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Speaker 3: He is playing currently?

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Speaker 2: Whoa playing currently? Assists? James harviip no Russell Westbrook, no

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Speaker 3: Now you know it's not having Edwards fifty plus points,

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Speaker 3: Tyre's Halliburn did the last two games the only other

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Speaker 3: Halliburton is just playing on a on a whole other

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Speaker 3: seal it, that he has now entered the hashtag future

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Speaker 3: Laker conversation Wow, and that is the most exclusive club

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Speaker 3: in the world of sports.

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Speaker 2: Who's currently Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 3: Jason Tatum is in it. The other guys who were

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Speaker 2: And do you want Clay right now?

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Speaker 3: Well, like I never say we're gonna get them in

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Speaker 3: their peak of their powers. I'm just saying, eventually they

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Speaker 3: we get Klay Thompson when he's thirty eight and all

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Speaker 3: they can do is stand in the corner hit threes,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to count that as a win. But Tyre's Halliburton.

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Speaker 3: You know, a big market needs you, my.

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Speaker 2: Friends, Okay, you're not looking awesome. What do you guess

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton is making this season?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Six million?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Five point eight? Good guess he bumps up to

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Speaker 2: thirty five, then thirty eight, forty one, forty four. So

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Speaker 2: we can't be a Laker for several years now if

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Speaker 2: But where's he from? Isn't he like a Middle America guy?

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Speaker 1: Out?

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Speaker 3: He's from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: There you go, oh Bucks? And then he's not leaving

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Speaker 2: for the bucks, you know, man.

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny about that game is, I don't

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, you got to be humble.

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Speaker 1: Got to be humble. Bro.

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Speaker 3: It's like stop, yeah, lost, take it like a man.

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Speaker 2: Don't say be have fun. You know you're an entertainer.

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Speaker 2: When I hit three threes in the first half, okay,

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Speaker 2: But maybe in the championship, which will be heated. All right,

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Speaker 2: David Baker, how are you, my man?

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Speaker 1: Man? I'm doing good. Excited. What a great NFL season?

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Speaker 1: Never know, each week everything just changes, so yeah, fun.

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Speaker 2: It's insane how quick things pivot. A lot of lines

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Speaker 2: moving here in week fourteen. I guess let's start just

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Speaker 2: I don't know, are you Are you dabbling in totals?

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Speaker 2: Are you just picking sides?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this week is one of those where we've

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Speaker 2: seen some serious swings. Why don't we start with an

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Speaker 2: the lines of move but Ravens hosting the Rams in

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Speaker 2: what looks to be an inclement weather game. Now, the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: as everybody knows Dave, have smacked around NFC teams like

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Speaker 2: the Lions. They smacked around the Seahawks. I'm talking like

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Speaker 2: I for some reason, I see people talking up the

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Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't really surprise me, just because a lot

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm betting this as if Lawrence isn't

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, what a boss. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was like, Gigi, Jags and I have Jags to

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Speaker 2: That's fair. I didn't see what was three and a

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Speaker 2: I looked at the Jag when I saw the Lawrence injury.

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00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: My first thought was, well, he's done for the season, right,

429
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 2: he can't play again? And then they said high ankle,

430
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: which is like two to four. I looked at the schedule.

431
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: They've let's say they lose to the Browns, Okay, so

432
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: they will fall to eight and five. They have the

433
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: Ravens next week. Ravens maybe the best team in the AFC.

434
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. If Lawrence isn't fully healthy, do you

435
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 2: put him out there? I don't know. So let's say

436
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: they then lose that game, and now you're eight and six,

437
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, shucks, here come the Texans.

438
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. Are the Colts going to win this week?

439
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 2: It almost it made me look at betting the Jags

440
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: to miss the playoffs. I found a ten to one

441
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,479
Speaker 2: to miss the playoffs. I'm not a believer in Garner Minshew,

442
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 2: but the CJ. Strouds stuff is interesting. I know they

443
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: lost Tank Dell. I do think they smashed the Jets,

444
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: so I would be very curious. And remember, of course

445
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: they split the season series, so Houston is in the mix.

446
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what the tiebreaker is after that, but

447
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: I don't know any thoughts on Jags missing the playoffs.

448
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: Well, the thing about that is the Jags are going

449
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: to hold the tiebreaker versus both of them. Belief they

450
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: swept the Colts, and even though they split against the Texans,

451
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: the Texans did lose to the Colts earlier this year,

452
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Jags lost at all in

453
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: the division, so I would assume that the Jags are

454
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: going to win the tiebreaker. You've also got the Texans

455
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: play the Colts one more time, so that's one automatic

456
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: loss for one of those teams. So if they lose

457
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: one more time, if the team that loses that game

458
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: loses one more time, that's a pretty rough thing to overcome.

459
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: I think the Jags have the Texans left, and they

460
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: have Carolina. I mean the Titans left in Carolina.

461
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: That should be a win.

462
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean if Trevor is not going to

463
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: be out, I mean they're going to be at home.

464
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: I think versus Carolina week seventeen, that's that's going to be.

465
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: You know, well, I'll see ten point favorite. So I'm

466
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: not I don't think I can really get behind that.

467
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's it's a it's out there, you know,

468
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: ten to one. I'm also involved in that. I decided

469
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: to take a nibble on Texans to win the AFC

470
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: South plus three forty eight. And and the thought process

471
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: is this, like, I know, nobody think Carolina stinks and

472
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And last week they get came in

473
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 2: the door, backdoor with the late touchdown. Their defense is

474
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: playing at a level that I think they can kind

475
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: of be a spoiler ish late in the season. JC hornsback.

476
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 2: The other thing is they don't have their first round pick,

477
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: so it's not like they have any intentive to tank.

478
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 2: Can sit guys, so I can see them fighting like

479
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: hell and trying to actually win some games, including that

480
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: Jaguars game in on December thirty first. So I don't know,

481
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: it's a bit of a long shot. I don't advocate

482
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Speaker 2: anybody out there actually.

483
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: Follow I'm I'm always up for some good long shots.

484
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, on a show I did a

485
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, we decided that to bet the

486
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: Seahawks to miss the playoffs at plus three hundred and

487
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: now it's looking great. I love these kind of bets.

488
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: I don't really think this is the best spot, just

489
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: because I don't really. First of all, it does look

490
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: like Travor's gonna play. So that's one thing.

491
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: Do you think he's gonna play, Well maybe.

492
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 1: Not this game, but he's gonna play. He's gonna be

493
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: his season's not over. Yeah, I mean, Caroline is gonna try,

494
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: but I mean I feel like they've been trying the

495
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: whole season. I mean, they're just terrible. They don't have weapons,

496
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: they don't have a quarterback, and yeah, they got the

497
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: dead cat bounce last week, but but but the Bucks

498
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: had that had that game one. I mean, the score

499
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: was a lot closer than it should have been. I

500
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: mean that they just threw basically a hail Mary up

501
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: that shark caught, you know, I'm fourth and six, and

502
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: they ended up, you know, covering by ten. I mean

503
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: it was ten and they ended up covering the game.

504
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think the Bucks were the right

505
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: side of that game. I just don't really see much

506
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: on this Carolina team. So I think that's that's a win.

507
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: And Tennessee, I mean, yeah, Tennessee, it's in the division,

508
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: but I think Jacksonville has pretty much owned Tennessee over

509
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: the last several years. So and as good as the

510
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: Texans and the Colts have been, I mean they don't

511
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: even have they have no layups. I mean, these two teams,

512
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: they're good, and they're they're definitely ascending teams, but they're

513
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: not teams that that I think are capable of running

514
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: off four or five games in a row. With Jags

515
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: holding the tiebreakers does seem like a like a pretty

516
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: big hill to climb.

517
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: All right, let's go. You mentioned the Panthers and how

518
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: they have been in atrocity. They did cover for me

519
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: last week. I'm on them this week against the Saints.

520
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen the injury report for

521
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: the Saints here on Thursday. Taysom Hill did not practice,

522
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: Chris o'lave did not practice with an illness, Rashid Shaheed

523
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: still out with the thigh, and Derek carr is deal

524
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: on the injury report the list carr is concussion, rib,

525
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: right shoulder. I mean, this guy's taking a pounding again.

526
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm not a believer in the Panthers, but this Saints team,

527
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: they've been for me, probably the biggest money loser. I

528
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: had some futures in them to be the number one

529
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: seed or maybe it was either number one seed or

530
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: most wins in the NFC, and then to win the division,

531
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: and like all that's up in smoke. This team. I

532
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: think Dennis Allen's the problem here. I took Panthers. Is

533
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: this game interest you at all in any capacity?

534
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've been looking at this game a

535
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: lot because I have a piece of a survivor that

536
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: there were down to four people and we basically have

537
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: to decide between Pittsburgh, Green Bay and the Saints this week.

538
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: So I have been looking at this game quite a bit.

539
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. For me, I just I'm full on,

540
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: full board fade Carolina. I mean, it's.

541
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Speaker 2: Called you want to take Saints in those of those

542
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: three survivor options.

543
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: Well, I kind of want to take Saints, but I

544
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: think we're gonna end up taking in Pittsburgh, even though

545
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: I don't really love it.

546
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: All right, So now this will come out. This comes

547
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 2: out tomorrow. So yeah, Pittsburgh is alive or not.

548
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: If it was if it was all me, I think

549
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: I would I would take the Saints, to be honest.

550
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: But he's learning Pits. Well, I think the Packers are

551
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: definitely going to be taken by one of the other

552
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: four teams, so we can kind of leverage that. And

553
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: plus I don't know, man, the Packers coming off of

554
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: a statement win, two statement wins, going on the road

555
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: like this is where young teams kind of fall a

556
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: little bit. I really do kind of like the Giants

557
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: in this game. The Giants have been they've been battling,

558
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: and they've had they had to buy they're at home.

559
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't know this. This just kind of scares me.

560
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: So I'd rather just take the home team. As far

561
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: as the Saints go, though, I mean, is is Jamis.

562
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: The one thing about Jamis is he can come in

563
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: there and he can give excitement. He I feel like

564
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: his teammates really love him there. They're there's definitely a

565
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: problem with him because, like the Saints have had an

566
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: assurciate quarterback situation for multiple years now, and he can't

567
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 1: find his way into the starting lineup. So it's obvious

568
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: the coaches don't really believe in them. But I feel

569
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: like for one game, he can go out there and

570
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: just kind of slinging around and he's gonna beat the

571
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: game up. There's going to be the Panthers aren't gonna

572
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: score a lot. It just really doesn't matter. So if

573
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: James can go out there and sling it around and

574
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: get a couple of catches and you know, I don't know,

575
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: everything really scares me. This week. There's a lot of

576
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: bad teams playing bad teams, but I just can't get

577
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: behind Carolina on the road. I just can't do it.

578
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: Bad teams have been very bad this year and not

579
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: good at covering. Let's look at a positive team. Now

580
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: this is a Monday game, but I bet this, and

581
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I might make this one of those

582
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: huge bets for me. The Miami Dolphins minus thirteen against

583
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: Tennessee as of now, Derrick Henry in the concussion protocol,

584
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: and we don't know about Jeffrey Simon's simmons either. Those

585
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: are two of the four best players on the Titans,

586
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: maybe the number one and two players. And now they

587
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: got to go on the road. There are seasons over.

588
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: I had them last week against the Colts in the contest,

589
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: just a crushing loss. I don't will Levis against a

590
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: Fangio defense like I think he's gonna eat him alive.

591
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I know you don't like big numbers,

592
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: but thirteen from Miami feels like kind of automatic.

593
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: I actually don't get as scared off by the big

594
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: numbers as some of the other people I feel like,

595
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 1: but I like to reserve my big numbers for the

596
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: worst of the worst teams. I don't really necessarily put

597
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Tennessee in that column. I mean, they outplayed the Colts

598
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: last week. They were the better team. I was on

599
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: the Titans with you on that game, and I feel

600
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: like we got so extremely unlucky. I think Brabil is

601
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: just one of those coaches that I like him when

602
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: he's a dog. I like him when there's nobody out

603
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: there picking them. Levis Is Lewis has been semi competent.

604
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: They're they're they're working there, they're working. I'd rather save

605
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: my thirteen points for the Carolina Panthers. I'd rather save

606
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: it for the you know, the Giants back a few

607
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: weeks ago when they were bad. Brett versus the even

608
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: the Commanders just even though they try on off like

609
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: their defense is just so futrid. I feel like Tennessee

610
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: is I don't know, I don't feel like they've given

611
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: up on the season. But on the other side, I

612
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: don't really feel like I can take these points because

613
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Miami can just explode so fast, and where you do

614
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: be Tennessee is through the air. So I mean, we

615
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: all we all know that that's where Miami lives. So

616
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: I do not a game I'm gonna go to. I

617
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: don't think. I do think Miami probably will get some

618
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: numbers in the contest, but yeah, yeah, I'm not really

619
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: a game I'm gonna go to.

620
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't think Weirdly, the Titans before last week's loss

621
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: had been four to oh at home, four to oh

622
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: against the spread. But then they go on the road

623
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: and they like get destroyed by Tampa, destroyed by Jackson.

624
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: They were feisty against Pittsburgh on that Thursday night game.

625
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember if they covered again. Oh know, the

626
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: Baltimore game was in London, lost at Indye, destroyed by

627
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: Cleveland on the road. Like they're maybe a young team

628
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: with a young quarterback, just different on the road and

629
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: at home. But now it's all the road against the team.

630
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of in the mix for the

631
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: number one seed. So I don't know. That's part of

632
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: the logic with Miami. Is there any game that you

633
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: love above all that that jumped out first thing, you bet,

634
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: first thing you said, hey guys, we're taking this for sure.

635
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Well, last week I did have a couple of those,

636
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: and they came through nicely with the Niners and the Rams.

637
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: But this week nothing really has jumped out. I mean,

638
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I mean, the game of the day

639
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: obviously is the Bills versus the Chiefs. This line is

640
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: continually moved in the direction of the Bills. I mean,

641
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: I think we're looking in real life it's one and

642
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: a half or two, and I think in the contest

643
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: it's one and a half. So what is this telling us.

644
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: The line is telling us that that that the lines

645
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: makers think the Bills are the better team. It's one

646
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: and a half in the contest. So basically, what they're

647
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: telling you is every average person who watches the NFL

648
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: and they only tune in for the pregame shows and

649
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: then they put their their twenty five dollars bets in

650
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: and whatever. All these people are going to look at

651
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: this game and go, wait, the Chiefs are the favorite

652
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: to go to the super Bowl in the AFC. The

653
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: Bills I have are not even in the mix. I

654
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: mean they're they're not even in the playoffs right now.

655
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: And you're telling me that the Bills are better than

656
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and the and the lines makers and the

657
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: books aren't afraid of Bill's actions. So that just tells

658
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: me that the Bills are probably a smash spot this

659
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: week if they're if they're begging you to take the Chiefs,

660
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and take the Bills. On

661
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: top of the fact that anybody who follows me on

662
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: any sort of programmer or Twitter knows that I am

663
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: an anti Chiefs guy. I don't really I don't believe

664
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: in this team. I don't believe in the weapons. So yeah,

665
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna be on the bills on this one.

666
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: This is a kitchen sink game for Josh Allen. I

667
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: think he's gonna go out there and get the job done.

668
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they get healthy out of the by Dawson Knox.

669
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: His back sounds like von Miller will play and the

670
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs Pacheco not practicing, you know, like if they don't

671
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: have Pacheco, who, by the way, is listen, no knock

672
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: on Kelsey. Pachecko's the best offensive skill position player. Would

673
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: you agree?

674
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: No, I would say Travis Kelsey is a position player.

675
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: But I mean it feels like, well, yeah, he definitely

676
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: lost a step. But I mean, this is this offense

677
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: is a little bit broken. I mean, basically their best

678
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: weapon is to get Mahomes in third and eight and

679
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: have him run around and almost get sacked fourteen times

680
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: and then get away and and throw the ball and

681
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: hope a guy catches it. I mean, I don't really

682
00:33:54,680 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: understand how this Kansas City Front office is allowed this

683
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: team with this limited window to have a dynasty and

684
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: have the best player in the sport allowed them to

685
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: have this atrocious set of receivers. I mean, it's mind blowing.

686
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: Do you think it's some hubris? Maybe, Hey, last year

687
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: we plugged in Juju Smith Schuster, it worked, we won

688
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. We're good, we got it. Do you

689
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: think it's maybe that kind of deal.

690
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think they're just I don't really know.

691
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: I just think that it's it's mouthfeasons at this point.

692
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's to have Patrick Mahomes at this stage

693
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: of his career with his number one weapon being a

694
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: mid round rookie and Rachid Rice, I mean, it's baffling.

695
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, MBS says the most the most lucky career

696
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: in the history of football, to be able to play

697
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: behind to play, to be able to catch passes from

698
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes and he's not even He's

699
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: sitting on the waiver wire on every fantasy league in

700
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: the country for the last several years. Like that just

701
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: tells you, like, how bad this guy is at football?

702
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: Well, you should have meend that the privilege of dropping

703
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,120
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Speaker 2: know you said Buffalo Case's the best game of the day,

720
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Speaker 2: and I just I'm scrolling on the gambling app here

721
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: and I say, wait, WHOA I forgot Philly Dallas Sunday

722
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: night football. That's actually a really good back to back

723
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: afternoon on Sunday. But I don't know where are you

724
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: on this whole? Dallas three and a half. I took

725
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: it at three. I don't know that I hammered it

726
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: three and a half. But you think it comes back

727
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: to three as the limits go up here later in

728
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Speaker 2: the week.

729
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: You know this is a tough one because I was

730
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: I was so high. Probably the biggest game I've touted

731
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: at least in a year was the nine Ers last week.

732
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: It was just the most perfect spot of all spots,

733
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: and it came through nicely. And now Dallas has almost

734
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: the exact same spot they have ten days rest, where

735
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: they had kind of a I mean, yeah, the Seahawks

736
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: put up a fight, but it wasn't a physical fight

737
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: it was And then you let the Eagles coming off

738
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: to back to back to back absolute physical, just just tough,

739
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: hard nosed football games. And now they've got to go

740
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: on the road and face the rest of the team,

741
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: and and Dallas has fared very well versus Yeah, that

742
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: being said, I just don't trust Dallas as much as

743
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: I trust the Niners. I don't know, I don't know

744
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: what it is about this team, but yeah, I mean

745
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard pressed for me to press that

746
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: Philly button in this spot. But at the same time,

747
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure I can get there in Dallas.

748
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: I have yet to form a strong opinion on this game,

749
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: and I want to because we all want to have

750
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: opinions on the biggest games of the day, right. I mean,

751
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: that's it's more fun, that's the one that get noticed.

752
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: That's the ones that people want to bet. But I

753
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: think I'd be doing myself and people to service if

754
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: I if I went ahead and touted something I really

755
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: didn't firmly believe in, and right now I just don't

756
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: firmly believe in it. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna

757
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: leave my leave that game on the side for now.

758
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you one thing though. On that game.

759
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: This McCarthy appendec to me. He says, he'll coach. I

760
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: don't know, man, you go in for a procedure like that,

761
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna coach an NFL game a few days later.

762
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: But anyways, what does the three and a half tell

763
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: you versus if it were say a flat three and

764
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: a two and a half. Because one of the theories.

765
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard this one, but we

766
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: talked about it. I forget who the guest was. At

767
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: two and a half. It's like the Sharps don't like

768
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: the favorite enough to push it to three, and then

769
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: at three and a half, the Sharps love the favorite

770
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: and they don't like that dog at all. I'm not sure.

771
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: Just kind of talk your way through the three and

772
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: a half versus the two and a half on a

773
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: big game like this, because Niners did not hit three

774
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: three and a half and they were in Philly.

775
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a buddy who's tied with tied up

776
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: with some sharp people, and he loves the dogs when

777
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: they're two and a half, because that just means that

778
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: people aren't loving the favorite enough to get it to three.

779
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: Basically the same thing that you said. It's basically they're

780
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: enticing you. They're trying to get you to take Philly here.

781
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: Kind of similar to what I said with Buffalo. I

782
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: mean they're trying they don't mind the action is basically

783
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: what they're saying. So basically the book putting it at

784
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: three and a half and moving it to three and

785
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: a half and keeping it there is basically telling you

786
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: that they don't mind the Eagles action, so you should

787
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: be more apt to line up to play the Cowboys.

788
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean, one thing that I will say on the

789
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys that they have going for him is the Eagles

790
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: are the bully. I mean, the Eagles have been a bully,

791
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: the bully in the league for the last two years.

792
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: And this Cowboys team has stood up to the bully

793
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and even though they haven't always

794
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: gotten the job done, they have taken their best punch

795
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: and they've been there at the end of the football game,

796
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: so they believe that they can beat them. What this

797
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: Niners team did is this Niners team showed that they're

798
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: you need to do is punch him back, and you

799
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: punch them back and you can beat them. And I

800
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: think this was a really bad loss for the Eagles

801
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: just in perception, because perception was just always the Eagles

802
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: are going to find a way, and the Eagles are

803
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna come back, and when they get punched in the face,

804
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: like they're gonna punch you harder. And when facing the Niners,

805
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: the Niners punched them and then they punched them again,

806
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: and they punched them again. So I think that a

807
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: little bit of the luster has been lost from the Eagles.

808
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: So that's the thing. Niners can hammer you on the

809
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: ground and then they could go through the air. I

810
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: don't know that Dallas, like Tony Pollard, has been a

811
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: bit of a disappointment this season. I don't know that

812
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: they have that. Hey we got to lead, We're just

813
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: going to grind you into dust, short passes and run game.

814
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 2: I just I'm curious if Dallas can do that. I'm

815
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: on the Cowboys here obviously, but I was just trying

816
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: to get into your head on the three half, So

817
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 2: go ahead.

818
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: One thing that Dallas does have going for it is

819
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: that they're really good through the air. I mean, Ceedee

820
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: Lamb is and they have they have quality receivers and

821
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: cd Is is a boss. I mean he's a He's

822
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: a top five receiver in the league right now. And

823
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: that's where you get the Eagles. You get the Eagles

824
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: in the middle of the fields. You get them through

825
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: the air. And with Ferguson has been a solid tight

826
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: end and and with Ceedee Lamb, and they definitely have

827
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: what it takes to beat them. You know how, you

828
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: don't beat the Eagles to try to out physical them,

829
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: because they're just more physical. Obviously, the Niners have everything.

830
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: So they have the physicality and they have the the

831
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: air attack. But I don't think you beat them by

832
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: trying to out physical them. You have to be a

833
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: very very special team to beat them that way. Yeah.

834
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: The only other two games that apply to the three

835
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: and a half two and a half as of now,

836
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: and that's the Chicago Detroit game. Will had some questions

837
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: about whether it seems like that's gone in now Detroit

838
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: looks to be three and a half in a bunch

839
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: of places against the Bears on the road. And then

840
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: where was the other one? Uh? Oh, it might be Minnesota,

841
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: but non't known. It's not Minnesota, Vegas. Oh oh, Chargers

842
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: and Broncos. That's now at a bunch of spots two

843
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: and a half Chargers and I like that pick on

844
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: the Broncos. I think they're the better side. Chargers. I

845
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 2: can't deal with them. But do the Lions or Chargers

846
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: appeal to you at all?

847
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: Well? The Chargers are a team that I have continued

848
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: to back for the last several years. They've continued to

849
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: break my heart. I have a buddy who every time

850
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: because he asked me who I like each week, and

851
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: the Chargers are there, and he told me that he's

852
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: gonna buy me season tickets one year, even though I

853
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: don't live in LA. But for some reason, I just

854
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: can't quit this team. But this game just scares me,

855
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: just kind of similar to what you mentioned the Broncos.

856
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: The Broncos are playing more like a team and the

857
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: Chargers are just out there flanneling around. So I'm not

858
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: really sure what to expect from this game. I really

859
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: like Herbert, but you know, at some point, I think

860
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: this is just something that's interesting to talk about in

861
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. Is just that some coaches get blamed for everything,

862
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: and some quarterbacks get blamed for everything. You know, the Chargers,

863
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: we want to put all the blame on Staley and

864
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: none of the blame on Herbert because we all like

865
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: Herbert and we've all seen the arm talent. But on

866
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: the flip side, you know, you want to look at

867
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: some of the other coach slash quarterbacks and and and

868
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: the quarterback gets all the blame. You know, let's talk

869
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: about your beloved Jets. Oh no, please, Zach Wilson gets

870
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: all the Zach Wilson gets all the blame for the

871
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: Jets offense. But let's take a hard look at this

872
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: Jets team and what Robert Sala has done.

873
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: Nothing.

874
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: And Robert Sala, if he was Matt Eberflus, if he

875
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: was Frank Wright, he would be gone. But because he

876
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: has a great personality and he's very likable, he gets

877
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. Meanwhile, he has basically sabotaged

878
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: his kid's career. And I'm not saying that Zach Wilson

879
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: doesn't deserve a lot of the blame. He's not handled

880
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: himself in the most mature manner. But look, he's basically said,

881
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, we're going to put in one of the

882
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: worst quarterbacks to suit up in the NFL because he

883
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: gives us a better chance to win than Zack Wilson

884
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: by playing Tim Boyle. And then you know, when Tim

885
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: Boyle just finally reaches the end last week, Trevor Simmeyon

886
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: gets a shot, and now he's going back to Zach Wilson.

887
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the Zach Wilson renaissance.

888
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: I've complained, where's that happening?

889
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: I think? I mean, I've completely switched gears on Zach.

890
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: I thought he was a lot big problem, and I

891
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: think he is. But I think he has the talent,

892
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: and I want to see him with Sean McVay. I

893
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: want to see him with Kevin o'poonnell.

894
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I.

895
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: Mean, what the Rams. The Rams don't have great draft picks.

896
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: They're not going to at one of these guys. Why

897
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: not he helped Sean McVay, helped resurrect Baker Mayfield to

898
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: some extent. What Matt Stafford's on his way out, why

899
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 1: not why not fire a fourth or fifth round pick

900
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: at the Jets and bring in Zach Wilson with Cooper

901
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: Cupp and Pooka and Kyron. You don't think that with

902
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: that offense, it's crazy Dak resurrected.

903
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: That's a That's an incredible question because you could play

904
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: this game with literally every quarterback in the league. So, David,

905
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: what do you think Zach Wilson looks like in a

906
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel offense with Tyreek Hill and Waddell like? And

907
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: he's more athletic than Tua. He can run away from dudes.

908
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if he has the accuracy in the

909
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: short game and the processing quickly like Tua. But you're right, yeah, McVeigh.

910
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: There's like five coaches where I feel like if any

911
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: first second round pick quarterback went, they would be fine,

912
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: right O'Connell McVeigh shanahan. There's got to be a couple others,

913
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: oh McDaniel, And if you go to a good spot

914
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: with a good coach, you're gonna be fine. I like

915
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: to think he had no Nathaniel Hackett was with the

916
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: Broncos last year they had they were dead last on

917
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: third downs in the league. Well take a guest with

918
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: the Jets are in the hacket offense on third down

919
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: DFL dead fucking last, And it's like, come on, and.

920
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say, Like you want to

921
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: blame Zach Wilson for everything, Well, you know what, Nathaniel

922
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: Hackett made Rus Wilson look like the worst quarterback we'd

923
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: ever seen. That he was done, that he was that

924
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: he was complete toast. And look, I'm not a huge

925
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: Russ Wilson guy, and I don't think he's the best,

926
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: but you know what, he's proven this year that he's

927
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: an average, fine, decent quarterback. And last year we wouldn't

928
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: have said that. I mean I was ready to completely

929
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: write off Rus Wilson. So at some point you've got

930
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: to take some of the responsibility as as the coaches,

931
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I just want to see Zach.

932
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: I want to see the Zach Wilson, that's for sure.

933
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: All right. We can wrap up with Seattle San Francisco.

934
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: You love San Francisco. Last week, I loved them. Everybody

935
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: likes him as the best team in the league. However,

936
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 2: they went up to twelve and a half this week

937
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: and it has since come back down to ten and

938
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: a half. I see it eleven one spot off shore.

939
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: I am curious San Fran coming off the emotional win,

940
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: they go back home, probably let their guard down a little. Hey,

941
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: we've dominated Seattle, We've owned these guys. They have no

942
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 2: chance against us. They maybe go through the motions and

943
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: since Seattle defense is total garbage, San Fran jumps to

944
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: a twenty to seven lead, and then it's twenty seven thirteen,

945
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: and I just wonder if you're winning comfortably in the

946
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, there's no reason to happen mcaf if you're

947
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: up by double digits, McCaffrey will not be getting carries.

948
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel should not be on Like, You've got to

949
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: start protecting your guys, right Like, if you've got the lead,

950
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: he don't need to cover. He just wants to chase

951
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: the number one seed. So I wonder is there a

952
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: chance they get back doored here because Seattle's still playing,

953
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: They're trying to score. They're not laid down. They don't

954
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: want to be under five hundred and to miss the playoffs.

955
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: Would you take Seattle in the contest? Do you think

956
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 2: there'll be a top five most picked?

957
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: Well? I think this line is fair despite what we

958
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: want to say when we first look at it, and

959
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: it's an eye popping big number to lay. But let's

960
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: look at two weeks ago on Thanksgiving, I happily laid

961
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: seven points in Seattle. I got to think that Seattle

962
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: is a two and a half point home field advantage

963
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving night, maybe three, so that brings it up

964
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: to ten. And then there's a couple point home field

965
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: advantage for the Niners, so that brings it to eleven

966
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: and a half twelve. So I think this line is

967
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: pretty right on. I would be more hesitant. I would

968
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: be more willing, I guess, to take the dog if

969
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: it was a team like the Packers, or a team

970
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: like the Vikings, or just a team that the Niners

971
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: haven't faced. In a while, and they don't game plan

972
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: for But I think that the fact that they dominated

973
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: them two weeks ago, that they dominated them in the

974
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: playoff game, that they dominated them the you know earlier

975
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: last season, and they basically just dominated this team. I

976
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: don't think the preparation is going to be as big

977
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: of a factor. They just know how to beat this team,

978
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: and they know what they do and they know how

979
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: to stop it, and they know how to exploit it

980
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: because they score an offense and they don't let Seattle score.

981
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: So I'm not as willing to take these points as

982
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: I would if it was, you know, another team of

983
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: Seattle's ability, but just a different just a different team,

984
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: because I just do think that San Francisco does have

985
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: their number, and I don't really want to count on

986
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: the back door. I'd rather just pick some games that

987
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: I really like in the contest that I just think,

988
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, are going to play out where one team

989
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: is just better than the other.

990
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's interesting. I think the Thanksgiving Night game,

991
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,959
Speaker 2: I think their only touchdown was the pick six, right.

992
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they completely dominated that game. Seattle couldn't even

993
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: move the ball, I.

994
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: Mean, and I think Walker is still out and Charbonne,

995
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's healthy as I him in

996
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: fantasy and I see he's got like a low point total. Like,

997
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, Man, So maybe you're right, Maybe that's

998
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 2: a that's a risky play in Seattle. But these divisional

999
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: matchups I just always am leary to. Like you said,

1000
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: you're in the survivor, you're taking one of the digital.

1001
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: I think we're taking Pittsburgh, but I'm not really sure.

1002
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: Oh Carolina was the other Carolina. Tampa's a divisional matchup,

1003
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: like it could be frisky, you know, knowledge of the

1004
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 2: other team, all that fun stuff. Anyways, Man, week fourteen,

1005
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 2: it feels like the season flies by playoffs or less

1006
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: than a month away. Have you changed your mind on

1007
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: who you who you got right now? Who do you

1008
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: see going to the super Bowl from each each conference?

1009
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: Wow? Before a couple of weeks ago, I was, I

1010
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: was all in on the Eagles. I don't see how

1011
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: at this point you can you can fade the Niners.

1012
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: The Niners are the best team in football as long

1013
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: as Trent Williams. I think Trent Williams is the most

1014
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: important player in football to be honest. Right now, obviously,

1015
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: other than Patrick Mahomes. I mean we're talking non quarterbacks obviously, Yeah,

1016
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: as he goes if he's healthy, then I'm not picking

1017
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: against the Niners in the AFC. I don't believe in

1018
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I don't believe in the I really don't

1019
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: believe in the Pravens that much. And I'm not and

1020
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't really believe in the Dolphins. I don't really

1021
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: like this. This AFC is not good. I just sprinkled

1022
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: the little futures on the Bills. If the Bills do

1023
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: win this week, I think they're they're they're probably roster wise,

1024
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: I think they're the best team in the a f C.

1025
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: So if they can get by this game with the Chiefs,

1026
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you're getting some big numbers out there. I

1027
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: think some sites have like the Bills at like fifth

1028
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: ffty to one and forty to one to win the

1029
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and.

1030
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: Wow, hold up, hold up, David, you're saying win the

1031
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

1032
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: Well, I mean to get there. They're twenty they were

1033
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: twenty two to one me and a buddy got to

1034
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: win the AFC and fifty to one to win the

1035
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl on one of the sites either.

1036
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: I think I think when the AFC is okay, but

1037
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: they're not.

1038
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean, no, I agree, I agree, but you can

1039
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: always had you can always had you off on the

1040
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: on the super Bowl. But yeah, the AFC was twenty

1041
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: two to one, the super Bowl was fifty to one.

1042
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: So if it was twenty five to one and fifty

1043
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: to one, I would only bet the AFC. But we're

1044
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: getting a little overlay there just in case something happens

1045
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: to the Niners and you get a good number.

1046
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: But now you got me looking hold on to win

1047
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: the super Bowl? What the heck of the Buffalo plus

1048
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: twenty nine fifty? Huh?

1049
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably on a you go to one of

1050
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: the either fandor or DraftKings.

1051
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't do that in California. Unfortunately,

1052
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: yes I can't either.

1053
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: So to be honest, I told my buddy to do it,

1054
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: so Mark.

1055
00:52:59,520 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1056
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: On the Vegas casinos, I've seen that they're closer to

1057
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: thirty and at one. So if you can find a

1058
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: bigger number out there, I think the bills are legitimate

1059
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: in the AFC. I just don't like the AFC. If

1060
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: you can find just an NFC. I mean, I've talked

1061
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: about this several weeks ago, but I'm sure that number's gone.

1062
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: But if you could just bet the NFC to win.

1063
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I like everybody coming out of the NFC

1064
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: better than the AFC. I'm just not a believer in

1065
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Speaker 1: this AFC at all.

1066
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Speaker 2: We'll see if the Chiefs can turn it around. All right,

1067
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Speaker 2: David Baker, you know where to find him on social media,

1068
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: a poker room somewhere. All right, buddy, good talking to you,

1069
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Speaker 2: and have a good rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Thanks, And if you're a poker player out there

1071
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Speaker 1: that does sports, I'll be at the Win all month playing.

1072
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a huge series out there,

1073
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Speaker 1: World PROCA Tour. Come by, say hello, tell me you

1074
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Speaker 1: heard about me? So you heard me on the Jmax Show.

1075
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, So I've had a couple of people come

1076
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Speaker 1: out and tell me that they've heard me on your show.

1077
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Speaker 1: And I'm psyched to see your success with the Herd

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Speaker 1: and everything you're doing. And keep up the good work.