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Speaker 1: Joining us now on the Minnesota Vikings podcast is Vikings

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Speaker 1: radio analyst Pete Bursach, and we are here coming to

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Speaker 1: you from the garden Center on the Hanbury Mary Handbury

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Speaker 1: Mary Handburry manner. This place is unreal.

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Speaker 2: It is it. It's gigantic, It goes on forever as

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Speaker 2: a golf course around it. It's it's a I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's a super nice spot where people asking how's London.

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Speaker 2: It's like we're hour hour and a half from London,

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Speaker 2: so we're out here to work. Yeah, and it's nice

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Speaker 2: and quiet, peaceful.

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Speaker 1: Very tranquil, very peaceful.

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Speaker 2: You can get a lot of work done, a lot

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Speaker 2: of Yes, yes, there's a lot of greenery. I've always

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Speaker 2: I've always admired English gardening, so to speak, just everything

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Speaker 2: that they all work that goes into it. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine if you close your eyes right now,

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Speaker 1: since you're listening to this on audio platforms, and think

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Speaker 1: of what an English countryside would be.

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Speaker 2: We are currently there, yeah, head rows everywhere, can't see

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Speaker 1: I just got up the hill from practice because it's

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Speaker 1: literally down in the valley and a little wind died

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Speaker 1: myself because it is quite the hike, but a beautiful setting.

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Speaker 1: The sun came out to We were recording this on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon here in London, and the sun came out accordingly.

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Speaker 1: It was very nice to see. The guys looked like

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Speaker 1: they were having a lot of fun. I'm sure it's

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Speaker 1: nice to just be out there. But let's reflect a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I know we've kind of started talking a

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Speaker 1: little bit more about London, but I want to look

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Speaker 1: back on your overall experience in Ireland. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: on the call for the first ever NFL regular season

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Speaker 1: game in Ireland for the Minnesota Vikings. For you a

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Speaker 1: moment like that, did you Was there a moment where

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Speaker 1: you sat back and you're like, Okay, this is like

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Speaker 1: pinch me, this is really cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I think the cool the

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Speaker 2: the walk through and then seeing the stadium, which is

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Speaker 2: it's a lot like a lot of college stadiums in America,

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Speaker 2: kind of a horseshoe with an open end, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we were able to sit outside like our press box

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Speaker 2: was outside. You know, Pa set shoulder to shoulder with

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Speaker 2: a regular steel with a Steelers fan, so that part

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Speaker 2: of it is is different. The view was fantastic where

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Speaker 2: that was was it was unique because it doesn't happen

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Speaker 2: not as loud as a normal NFL game, but it yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 2: It's always cool. I always I always think back and

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Speaker 2: I think about the records I've seen, like Adrian Peterson

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Speaker 2: single game, Brett Favre touchdown and consecutive starts and you know,

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Speaker 2: longest kick return in history. I mean all the different

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Speaker 2: things that we've seen over the years that are records,

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Speaker 2: you know, like Isaiah Rodgers with just the with the

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Speaker 2: two forced fumbles and.

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Speaker 1: The two to the sixty two yard field.

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Speaker 2: Good, that's the yeah, the biggest, the biggest comeback in

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Speaker 2: NFL history with the Colts, I mean, so many things.

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Speaker 2: Then to be a part of the first regular season

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Speaker 2: NFL game ever in Ireland, yeah, it is. It's it's

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Speaker 2: it's really cool and didn't turn out the way we

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Speaker 2: wanted it obviously.

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Speaker 1: No Pete, but it was the second most watched NFL

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Speaker 1: network international game. An average is seven point nine million viewers,

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Speaker 1: which is incredible. People obviously wanted to see what Croke

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Speaker 1: out the way this team wanted to. However, they were

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Speaker 1: They're still creating opportunities for themselves.

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Speaker 2: Probably when it was it was a it ended up

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Speaker 2: then that's possibility. And we started moving the football. Third

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Speaker 2: But then we finally got into a groove, finally found

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Speaker 2: some things at work. Of course, Pittsburgh, the Steelers, later

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Speaker 2: you get in the game, the more they're playing just

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Speaker 1: Well, coach said that in this week's Exits and O's

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Speaker 1: he said that the Steelers played their game on their terms. Yes,

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Speaker 2: If you look at the Steelers and how they're built.

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Speaker 2: I mean they they brought in I think his name's

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Speaker 2: Austin Spencer. Seventy four is his number. But they bring

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Speaker 2: in an extra offensive lineman. They've got a tight they

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Speaker 2: ck not Donovan Jackson, but it's uh number seventy. Hold on,

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Speaker 2: it'll be worth it. Darnell Washington, excuse me, number eighty.

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Speaker 2: He's six foot seven two and seventy pounds. I mean

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like they were scoring touchdowns or they were

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Speaker 2: just running the ball efficiently. That's what That's how they're built.

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Speaker 2: That's Aaron just saying. That's Aaron. Yeah. With their backup

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Speaker 2: that's that's his thing. It's a quick throwing game. It's uh,

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Speaker 2: he meant is if you make a big team like

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Speaker 2: like that, they're not as well equipped. Right. They're built.

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Speaker 2: They're built to play out on grass in the mud,

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Speaker 2: you know, those kinds of games. And you know, we

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Speaker 2: really we needed that. We needed that game to be

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Speaker 2: got to that point. I think that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: When that starts to hop in Pete in your mind,

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Speaker 1: what is it that you can do to play your

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Speaker 2: Defensively, you got to kind of match what they want

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Speaker 2: not as if they just we did. We came out

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Speaker 2: now you're kicking field goals again instead of scoring touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: And we're down the field passing type of a team.

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Speaker 2: And there were there are routes that were open or

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Speaker 2: coming open. So the scheme was there just to get

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Speaker 2: to protect the quarterback long enough. While when you lose

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Speaker 2: and you start having to you know, chip on your

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Speaker 2: was chipping t J. Watt almost every play. That limits

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Speaker 2: so you're making all My point is you're kind of

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Speaker 2: making all of these adjustments because they have to be made,

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Speaker 2: which takes weapons, which takes away a lot of your

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Speaker 2: mean we did. There are some things in that game

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Speaker 2: at the Cincinnati game when all three phases of the

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Speaker 2: of played together. One led to another, led to another,

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Speaker 2: earn it, but it wasn't. You know, there's no three

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Speaker 2: and outs there. Well, Earli, there was, but I mean

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Speaker 2: of you know, we let him. Letting them get the

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Speaker 1: Your whole idea of how you're going to play the game.

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Speaker 2: We knew going into that game that they were run

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Speaker 2: after the catch. That's seventy four percent of Rogers passing

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Speaker 2: yards were run after the catch. That's the highest in

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Speaker 2: let DK Metcalf catch a dig kind of a slant

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Speaker 2: Rogers isn't going to heave it down the field. You

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Speaker 2: we let them be successful at what we knew they

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Speaker 1: Here in the Hanbury Mariner, I said correctly this segment

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Speaker 1: the Hanberry Manor. It's very posh. It's very much where

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