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Speaker 1: Okay, so listen, let's talk about The Roney Ultimate Girls

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Speaker 1: Trip Legacy Bravo. Finally, years ago, I used to call Andy,

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Speaker 1: and this is a long time ago, and you can

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Speaker 1: call him and ask him. I used to say, what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do all Stars? And what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do the mashup? And why don't you do the

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Speaker 1: road trip and road rules? And he'd be like, not yet,

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Speaker 1: it'll come. So it's not a great sign for the

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Speaker 1: regular franchise in the sense that, you know, the way

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Speaker 1: people watch TV and streamers and everything, that's definitely declined,

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Speaker 1: but no one's worried about it. It's thriving, but they've

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Speaker 1: changed the amount that they will pay people, which means

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Speaker 1: that ratings are down and just people are watching television differently. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I never watch normal television. I watch streamers. So the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip Legacy, addition, is a cautionary

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Speaker 1: tale for life and for business and for the entertainment industry.

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Speaker 1: So it's a lesson. There's a lesson to learn, and

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Speaker 1: there's a lesson about negotiating. So The Real Housewives Legacy

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Speaker 1: was going to be a new show, and it was

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Speaker 1: weird when Bravo announced that they were going to announce

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Speaker 1: two new shows at the same time. Andy asked me

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Speaker 1: why I said something negative about it on his show,

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Speaker 1: and I said, because it was a weird announcement. You're like, oh, hi,

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Speaker 1: we're doing this and we're doing that, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: announce them on the same day. And it was strange.

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Speaker 1: It was called, we have a whole new cast for

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Speaker 1: New York. Okay, great, we understand that we have a

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Speaker 1: whole new cast of new people, new fresh blood. Then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do a rehash of former people, but we

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Speaker 1: don't know who they are yet, and we're not really

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Speaker 1: announcing something. We're going to be announcing something we're eventually

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Speaker 1: going to be announcing. It was sort of like bullshit.

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Speaker 1: It was like they had to announce something, but it

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Speaker 1: was weird. They had to like explain to the viewer

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Speaker 1: why that show died. Because ratings crashed and burned on

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New York for different reasons. So I left,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the Titanic sunk. It was crazy, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying because I left it. I left, and

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Speaker 1: like you saw the decline in ratings, and they made

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Speaker 1: a lot of bad decisions. Every year they made another

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Speaker 1: bad decision and it just crashed and burned and hit

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Speaker 1: an iceberg and the boat is under the ocean. So

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Speaker 1: now they gave this weird announcement about some new show

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Speaker 1: that was legacy, but like they didn't say who was

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Speaker 1: in it, and it was just a strange, weird, water down,

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Speaker 1: bullshit announcement. And I called it then, and I recalled

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Speaker 1: it on Andy's show, and it's I said what I said.

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Speaker 1: So now they canceled it on entirely. And it's because Jill,

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Speaker 1: which is true. I know this is true, was overplayed

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Speaker 1: her hand and overnegotiated. She wanted to get paid, but

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Speaker 1: the other girls were getting paid, which I understand because

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Speaker 1: it's a new show. I understand that part of it.

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Speaker 1: But they all had been on TV for years I

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Speaker 1: also understand, So everybody fucked up. Girls who had been

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Speaker 1: on it for years should have all said, we'll all

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Speaker 1: come down and meet in the middle, and we should

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Speaker 1: all get a new salary because it's a new show.

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Speaker 1: But everybody fucked up. The people who were getting paid

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Speaker 1: the most, the Sonja's, the Luanne's and whoever was fighting,

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Speaker 1: and that's Luanne on that end to stay with their salary,

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Speaker 1: and Duranda probably wanted to come back where she left

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Speaker 1: and all that makes some sense. And Jill wanting to

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Speaker 1: be paid the same, She makes some sense in wanting

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Speaker 1: to be paid the same, and actually they don't make

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Speaker 1: that much sense and wanted to be made the same

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Speaker 1: because some of them were fired. Most of them were fired,

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Speaker 1: and like it's all expired and we're trying to make

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Speaker 1: like expired milk fresh and you can't. So we needed

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Speaker 1: to like come to the middle where everybody was going

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Speaker 1: to get paid a number, and I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: the number, like the low number. Jill probably left that

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Speaker 1: like a couple hundred thousand dollars, maybe two or something

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Speaker 1: like two hundred fifth Dan, I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: have five of seasons, a couple hundred thousand dollars, And

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Speaker 1: the sons and loans got themselves up, you know, and

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Speaker 1: they probably had to get demoted because they were friends

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Speaker 1: and had to go in circle. So they were probably

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Speaker 1: at like, no, not a million, but like let's call

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Speaker 1: up between seven eight hundred, somewhere between like six and

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Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand, like a fifty. Just give me a

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Speaker 1: general range, I'm just telling you, no one was making

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Speaker 1: over a million dollars and Jill was not making under

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Speaker 1: like two fifty. That's a range. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: be exact, but I'm trust me. I know what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. So everybody should have come together to do

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Speaker 1: a real season that could have had some real episodes,

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Speaker 1: and they should have come together and been at like

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Speaker 1: four to five hundred. Right, it would have been a

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Speaker 1: demotion and it would have been a raise or four

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Speaker 1: hundred whatever it would have been. They all had to

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Speaker 1: come together because they don't have the same income, so

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Speaker 1: everybody needed to make a sacrifice. The people that had

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Speaker 1: been there, Okay, maybe even three fifty. Okay, so now

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Speaker 1: what they have now what bo decided to do because

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Speaker 1: that crashed and burned and they couldn't come to an arrangement.

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Speaker 1: And once you've pounded your chest and overplayed your hand,

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Speaker 1: you know it gets burned. You scorched the earth because

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Speaker 1: you're negotiating. Style sucks. Bravo now had a genius idea,

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Speaker 1: and I did say something like this. I did say

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Speaker 1: on social media they should get a blonde, have more fun,

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Speaker 1: and just take the fired housewives that will do it.

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Speaker 1: For anything, and mash them together and put them together

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Speaker 1: and do a blonde to have more fun. Right, who

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Speaker 1: are they coming back? It's Surrenda, it's probably Alex, it's

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Speaker 1: Kelly's Tinsley. It's kind of what I said. So now

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Speaker 1: what they're doing is bringing them all together and doing

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Speaker 1: an ultimate Girls trip with people that are gonna go

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Speaker 1: for a week for one hundred grand, and they need

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Speaker 1: the sizzle, and they want the moment, and they want

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Speaker 1: the press, they want the hit in the vein. So

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Speaker 1: now you're gonna get the people that'll do it for

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Speaker 1: one hundred grand or so overtake for a week's work,

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Speaker 1: so everybody wins. Bravo gets something economical. So if you

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Speaker 1: get five to seven girls, it's gonna be five to

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Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand, which is what some of the girls

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Speaker 1: were probably asking for for the whole new Legacy show anyway.

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Speaker 1: So you're getting all the housewives for one week for

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Speaker 1: the price of one, and you're probably gonna get six

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Speaker 1: to eight episodes anyway, and the legacy, bulky, clunky, expensive

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Speaker 1: one that would cost a couple of million would have

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Speaker 1: probably gone you twelve to eighteen episodes. Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna get you six to eight and you saved all

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Speaker 1: this money. It's fucking genius for everybody. And Jill, who

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Speaker 1: maybe overplayed her hand, maybe overplayed her negotiating hand, she's

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Speaker 1: not in it because she burnt scorched the earth, as

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Speaker 1: Jill does with Bravo. So trust and believe. I'm not

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Speaker 1: far I'm not far off with my numbers. I'm not

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Speaker 1: far off with my concept. I'm not far off with

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Speaker 1: my logic. And I've been doing this a minute. So

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Speaker 1: props to Peacock and Bravo for doing the economical sound

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Speaker 1: business thing and mashing it up and taking a week's

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Speaker 1: work for producer. You don't even have to pay the

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Speaker 1: producers for more than a week, and you take them away.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like taking people to the Berkshires and

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Speaker 1: it's like you're getting so much apple juice for the squeeze. Bravo, Bravo,

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Speaker 1: fucking Bravo. Good idea. And I said what I said,

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Speaker 1: I love it. Picasso