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Yeah. 27 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: Like I said before, me and the guys was talking, man, 28 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: we need we need the next tail church back. Man, 29 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: come on, we gotta do to get the next tail 30 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: church back. We're trying to shoot a commercial for y'all 31 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: for it. 32 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: So come on, man, tap in bocked in, bring back 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: my I five thirty with the sode. But you know 34 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Cardal and teams get tricky. You know 35 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: the vibes for sut to Boostmobile Man. Special episode. We 36 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: in Vegas with it, Big three. We got a special guest. 37 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna introduce him. Last to my far left, we 38 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: got my dog bit should be hearing out the prail LEAs. 39 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: How you what Nasty's having? Nasty excited for this one. Man, 40 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: We definitely got a legend. I don't be saying legend 41 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: a lot, but this is one for show in the city. 42 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: For sure, real legend. Now we're gonna talk about the 43 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: shoot game later episode o G. But you know what 44 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, We know you keep the feast right Nike 45 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: man for show Black Air Force one. 46 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: Have you ever seen those before? I have got a 47 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: couple of pair. 48 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen those with the white laces? Because 49 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: that's his statement, that's the thing with the black forces with. 50 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: The white with that. 51 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 4: But it's all good man, you can do that though. 52 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I'm going all black laceis man. 53 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: You gotta go all black out man. You got a 54 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 4: black that out like it's tent out man. 55 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You see how you got 56 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: that white trim and that ship. It'll work. It'll work. 57 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: If you get a fit with the black pants with 58 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: the little black white stripe on the run, you'll be 59 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: cold in the month. 60 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get it right with color. So you're gonna 61 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: we're gonna do black. We're gonna do black with Yeah. 62 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 2: We don't want Yes, We're gonna imagine. 63 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: Make sure we get gp to the black up the 64 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: right way to my right, my dog, young not your team. 65 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: You will. I'm chilling, bro. 66 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: We got a legend of building, like be here said, 67 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: it should be a good episode. Come on, man, talk. 68 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: Last ship we talked a lot of ship is gonna 69 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: be a good one, Yes, sir, what ship talk? 70 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 3: We're gonna do all of the man. 71 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: Listen, man, we got a special guest in the building, man, 72 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: one of the best ever do it, Hall of fame, 73 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: one of the coldest man. You know what it is 74 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: that glove gp in the building, big doll. We appreciate 75 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: you sliding on this. 76 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: Man. Appreciate y'all. Man, y'all nehuses me. Man. 77 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: You know I'm no g man, but it's all good. 78 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 4: I love ball all y'all. Man, It's all good. You 79 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I like what y'all doing, man, 80 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: because we got to get our black presents out of here. 81 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 4: With all these avenues that we're doing with these shows. Man, 82 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: we got to be the ones that make people understand 83 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: that we can do other things and play sports and 84 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: all that other stuff. 85 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 3: Man. 86 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: We can be all there on this social media and 87 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: do it, and y'all do it the right way. Give 88 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: a message out to this stuff, man, and let's do it. 89 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: Man. 90 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's why I'm on here, man, 91 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: because I want everybody to understand. Man, we ain't just 92 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: out here to be killing and all this crazy stuff 93 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: and we aut here for some positive stuff for sure. 94 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: It's definitely. Man, listen now this show we love you. 95 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. Keep the feats right. You got 96 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: some of the coldest shoes basketball history. In fact, I 97 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: don't want to skip around. What's that moment like with 98 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: GP Fine he getting his own signature shoe. 99 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: You know what, that's crazy? Man? That just mean you 100 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: know you're doing work. You know you're doing work. 101 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: When a company like Nike could come and say, look here, man, 102 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: we don't want you just to be in a shoe. 103 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: We want you to have your shoe. 104 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 4: And when they came at me in talk about the 105 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: glove man and all that other stuff, and then they 106 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 4: said they want. 107 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: Me to be a part of making the shoe. 108 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Usually they just give you 109 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: a shoe and say, yo, this is it. They wanted 110 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: me to be a part of the shoe and make 111 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: it meat. When I did the zipper on that thing, 112 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: that's a glove. That's what you zip up and on 113 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: your hand, and they fit like a glove, you know 114 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So when they did that and they 115 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: start giving me that opportunity. It was a big thing 116 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 4: for me. But you got to understand, we got to 117 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: represent them shoes too. You got to get out there 118 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: and play that game the way it is. And I 119 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: think they thought that they knew that I played that 120 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: game that way, so they gave me my own signature 121 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 4: to shoe. But what was the good thing about it 122 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: is that the shoes stuck in everybody. Yeah, and I 123 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 4: had to always think about it. 124 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: What's gonna make these people keep doing the shoe? Y'all? 125 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 3: Don't get it. 126 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: The women love to shoe more because they can throw 127 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: them down and go down with the monkey part when 128 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: I had all the different colors in it. 129 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: So the women was rocking a real. 130 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: Tough even with the men. But it was just great 131 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 4: to have a shoot. You just gotta be blessed to 132 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: have a shoe, you. 133 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. Jordans can go with that. 134 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: You know, Pippy could come with it, Penny Hardaway could 135 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: come with it, you know, Ken Griffy. 136 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: But it ain't too many Bo Jackson. 137 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 4: It ain't too many people that got shoes and do 138 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: their thing, you know, Lebron and all. 139 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: Them dudes in a different era. But in my era 140 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: them there was the dudes. 141 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: That we had shoes and we was pretty we was 142 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: pretty cold at it. 143 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and to see us standard testing times at dope 144 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: part because I remember my brother coming home. I had 145 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: a brother's teams older than me. Came home with him 146 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: and you first on zipp the joints. 147 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: What I'm saying. You see the red joints on the side, 148 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: It's like I gotta had him. That was the kick 149 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: it off. Yeah, in Minnesota, played them in Minnesota. Did 150 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 3: you zip them down? I warmed up with them down 151 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: and yeah, I seen you Jeff going them on there. 152 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: Man. It was a pleasure to see some of the 153 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 4: younger guys that come after me to wear my shoe, 154 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And it'll be cool. When 155 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 4: I seen you wearing them, I was like, shit, young 156 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: guys is sucking with me, you know I'm And they 157 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: got down a lot of a lot of people get 158 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 4: there with my shoe, man, and it's cool, and I 159 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 4: appreciate that. 160 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: Man. 161 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: It's always I always look up to the old g's too. 162 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: And when you look up to the old gs and 163 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: so respect like that, it makes us feel good. You 164 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And then we treated another different 165 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: way with with with the youngsters. And like I said, 166 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: if it wasn't for Jeff, I wouldn't be on here. 167 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 168 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: I don't really get out with too many podcasts. I 169 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: just get out with the people I love and it's 170 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: all good for that. 171 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. 172 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Just the counter off that you have any times you 173 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: see somebody your shoes like, hey, hey, take them shoes off, nigga, 174 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: Like you can't wear my shoes like that? 175 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: You put some work here? Well where they giving that? 176 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: The money? To me? I ain't You know what I'm saying, 177 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: You ain't do it, man. You know what I'm saying. 178 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: They're paying for them. What you think about it? You 179 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: be like, nig you really can't get out of me. 180 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But that's cool though, you know, 181 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: but it just shows hommage to to me. You know 182 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Even when I went. 183 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 4: Into the cannabis business and everybody smoking my mind strands. 184 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I can't say you don't 185 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: smoke it. 186 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I can't say it don't smoking, man, 187 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But it's good man. And 188 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: you look at some dudes like, dude, you know my shooting. 189 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: You ain't really getting it like that, you know what 190 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 191 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: But it's cool though, man, because they paying hummage to me. Man, 192 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 3: for sure. 193 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: And don't nobody ever grew up talking about man they 194 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: have to shoot man and everybody man they thing. 195 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: Man. 196 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 4: I came out of open California, man in the hood, 197 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: and I didn't never think that I was gonna be 198 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: who I am, you know what I'm saying. So it's 199 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: just I just respect everything that people get and they 200 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 4: respect me, and it's good. 201 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: Man. 202 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: I just think that a lot of people look up 203 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: to me the way they look up to me, you 204 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Because, like you said, people used 205 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: to come to me and be like, man at your shoe. 206 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 4: When I was I had my mama, my last money, man, 207 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: that was my Christmas good. 208 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: I'd be like, God, is that real? But it is good. 209 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: It's a good feeling for me that I touched people's 210 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: lives like that, you know what I'm saying, And that's 211 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: great for me to see here that. 212 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: And see that definitely, and especially in our community like 213 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: this sneaked thing, especially ill grow up hop and stuff 214 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: like that. No matter what you had going on, it's 215 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: a special moment. Even though you know it's just a shoe. 216 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: You just keep you know what I'm saying, where going 217 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: to keep your feet safe? It idolized the moment for you. 218 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: So I just would like to be an iconic moment 219 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: in people's lives. That's dope, hell man. 220 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: And you know what I'm gonna do for y'all. 221 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: Man, y'all don't give me y'all side is man, And 222 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna send y'all some of the bloods. Man. 223 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 4: They're gonna be coming back out about another year. Man, 224 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna send y'all black joints. 225 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna see, y'all. I'm gonna gift 226 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: y'all man and things. Man. You know, I got a 227 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: lot of them here. 228 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 4: Man with the Miami heat ones is here, Man in 229 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 4: my house here, So I got them, man. 230 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna givet y'all that. 231 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: Man. 232 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 3: Man, it's all good, and we're gonna get off. You 233 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying this to build that how. 234 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: It is like you know, you had the own shoot 235 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: and then you had the Jordan like peas, and now 236 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: to see them re released, you know what I'm saying, 237 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: Like you had that flavor back then. 238 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: What's that like? To see the like in every avenue 239 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: of the shoe. You're still just killing it. Let me 240 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: tell you so, y'all. 241 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: Y'all know I get at me and Jordan's was we clyd. 242 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, We get at it right. 243 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 4: So during that time, man, it was one of them things. Man, 244 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 4: I wanted to. 245 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 3: Change some stuff that I was doing. You know what 246 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 247 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: I just got traded from the Seattle SuperSonics. A lot 248 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: of things was going in my mind. Man, I wanted 249 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: to change my life. So Nike came at me, man 250 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: and Jordan them came at me, and they came and 251 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 4: me and Jay Kidd. They wanted to do an open thing. 252 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 4: They wanted both of us to get in the thing. 253 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: I didn't really want to change shoes. I said, Man, 254 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: let me try it, man, let me see how much 255 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 4: funk I can get in. And it's Jordan because he 256 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 4: was getting big, really really big at this time in 257 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: his shoe game. And so when they came. I told him, Man, 258 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 4: the only ready I'm gonna wear them is that they 259 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 4: got to give me some funk. 260 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: And they gave me some funk. Man. When I went 261 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: when I went to the Lakers and the boat you 262 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: had here Amas holl. 263 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: And, they was giving me some wave colors. That was dope, 264 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I said, that's doing it, 265 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 4: and we did it, and I stayed for two years. 266 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: Then I went back when I went to. 267 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: Miami and went back to my thing and won the 268 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: championship in my things, you know what I'm saying. 269 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 3: So it was cool. Man. I want to ask you, 270 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: because we've been seeing you around. You know what I'm saying. 271 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: You always run basketball, which is super dope. What's that 272 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: feeling like to see your kid like? You know what 273 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I have a great career in the NBA. 274 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: You know what. 275 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: I criticized my son so much. Man, I just told 276 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: him me it wasn't gonna be nothing, and he proved 277 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: me wrong, like what my. 278 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: Daddy did to me. Now, what's so good about this 279 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: is I could be a dad. 280 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: At the first time I was thinking about myself, I played, 281 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: and I want him to play that way. 282 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: Y'all gotta understand. 283 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: Man, it's only one Gary Payton, and that's me, and 284 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: I just named my son after. 285 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 3: That's it. 286 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: So I told my son, I said, look here, man, 287 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: I know you mad at me that we got into 288 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: a situation where our relationship wasn't really really cool because 289 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: of that. And I just told him, look, when he 290 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: made a decision to go to Oregon State behind me, 291 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: that was a big deal for me for him because 292 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: I really didn't think he was gonna do that, you know. 293 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: What I'm saying. 294 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 4: So I tell him all the time, I said, man, 295 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: look here, don't never think. 296 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: You got to be like me. It ain't gonna work 297 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: that way. I said. 298 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: If you want to be like be anything with me, 299 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: just get your picture up side of it and let 300 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: us be two legends together. Put your picture aside of 301 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: me when we when I got my my number retired 302 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 4: or to stay, which he's gonna get his retired or 303 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: to stay, just put your your picture up next mind, 304 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: and then we ain't gotta say nothing. 305 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: We can just say we two legends. You know what 306 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 307 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 4: So don't never compare yourself to me, you know, because 308 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: you'll understand I don't really know if he's my kid anyway, 309 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 4: because he got too much affle. 310 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: I think that's male man. You know what, mother, If. 311 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 4: Be talking on motherfuckers, I'd be like, whoa man, I'm 312 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: gonna lay up king trying to do all that. 313 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: But you know, here athletic man. 314 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: But the best thing I like about my kid is 315 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 4: that when people come up to me, they don't talk 316 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: about basketball, talk about how much good of a person is. 317 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: You know, how sweet he is and how good he is. Man. 318 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 4: That makes a dash feel better because I know I 319 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: did what I did I had to do. 320 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: As a parent, you know what I'm saying. 321 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: I know I wasn't around all the time, you guys, 322 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: being at all the stuff he wanted me be at 323 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 4: because I was on his road doing the things I 324 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: was doing, and doing everything and other things, you know 325 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But as I went home, I became 326 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: a parent. So when I sit in the stands now, 327 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 4: I look at myself as being a parent. It's more 328 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 4: fulfilling for me to seem like that, you know what 329 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 4: I'm saying, instead of a basketball player. And that's the 330 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: greatest feeling to be. 331 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: A dad. 332 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: His competitor to the you know, defensive without effort. And 333 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you that trickled down from you 334 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: because you're a great defender. But he's one of those 335 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: lockdown defenders. Like every time he says in the game, 336 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: you know he's going on the best player, he gonna compete. 337 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: And it's been like that since Washington. 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So try and see 379 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: what the fuss is about. 380 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Head to your local Walmart Target and try to og 381 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: cool Rush for yourself. 382 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: If you could go into a game and score thirty 383 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: and then the guys scored thirty six, that's a wash. 384 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's six points different. 385 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: If you can go in the game and you score 386 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: thirty and hold him to twenty or sixteen, you've won 387 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: the game by fourteen or twelve ten, you know what 388 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So you've done your job. So what he 389 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: did was with his long orange he became that thing. 390 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 4: But his mentality is that he don't have to score. 391 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: He can just lock you down. What I like about 392 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: him is every time he get in the game, he 393 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: always tell the person, let me guard the best person 394 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: on him. And that's what I like about it. He 395 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: guards always the best defender. I hate this game now 396 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: because them dudes try to shy away from guarding the 397 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: best defender when you know you're the best player. So 398 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: y'all both, y'all both ballot it out. But it is 399 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: what it is. But that's what I love about it. 400 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: You always want to guard. 401 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: The best offender. That's you say. Because be here just 402 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: brought it up. We talking about the playoffs. 403 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, we don't get the 404 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: main two players on the team, even if they play. 405 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: I missed that shit, bro, I missed that too in 406 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: my era, man, because you know me. If I'm playing 407 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: to Jordan Jordan, you feel what I'm saying. I'm guarding him. 408 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: If I'm if I got. 409 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: To go if when Magic was there, I'm guard Magic. 410 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: I don't care how big I was. I'm guarding that boy. 411 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 4: John Stockton, I'm guarding him. I'm going any tim hardaway. 412 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: I'm Kevin Kevin Johnson. I'm going to him. I'm not 413 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 4: shaving away. I'm not straying away from them, dudes. I'm 414 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: going out there. 415 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 3: Hey, you want them to get at them. 416 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 4: I want to get at them because I'm gonna tell you, 417 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: if I get you down here, you have a problem 418 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: down there, because I'm gonna go at you in the 419 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 4: offense again, I'm always don't get it to you because 420 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 4: if because I'm gonna get you on the block, and 421 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna tell you him, I'm gonna back. 422 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: You in off saying forget that about you get it. 423 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 3: If I get you in the block, man, I'm gonna 424 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: kill you. 425 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, did you post up 426 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: in high school? I didn't because I don't know how 427 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: you got to play. 428 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 3: Let me tell you how that went down. 429 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: Right, two years in the NBA, I got drafted in 430 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: ninety right, eighty nine, ninety right. 431 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: I was horrible for two years in Seattle. They wanted 432 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: to trade me. 433 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 4: Then they changed coaches and went to George call and 434 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 4: they brought in Tim tim Girt, who came from here 435 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 4: from Tark. 436 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: They told us that we don't work out. 437 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 4: With him in the summer and in summer league, and 438 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 4: we got to go back to some league and trade us. 439 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 4: So when he went the first thing he did he 440 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: brought me in a suite just like this, and he 441 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: had two TVs. Yeah, one TV that had me playing 442 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: as a signing my two years and one TV as 443 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: Oregon State. He kicked the TV down with a signing. 444 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 4: He said, I don't get shit. I don't want you 445 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: to playing like that. Did you play like him? And 446 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: next thing you know, I said, I'm there. I said, 447 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: what do I have to do? He said, you just 448 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: got to be a gym every day. 449 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: Every day. I tell you. 450 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: When I went in the gym, he said, I noticed 451 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: something about you. You're very big, you're very you're very athletic, 452 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: and you got both hands. Because I'm a lefty, but 453 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: I'm ambidescri he said, I can go both ways. 454 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: He said, I want you to post up players. 455 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: So he started putting me on the block, banging me, 456 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 4: banging me, and I started working at my game. I 457 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: started working at the spin and y'all know my spin 458 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: was was the colder is one of the colder spins anything. 459 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: I started spinning off people and filling people, and he 460 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 3: was like, be a beast. 461 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: And then that's what it happened. I start posting up people. 462 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 4: I start fading the way I started doing jumping, start 463 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 4: going in the middle. I started kicking it out and 464 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 4: then he said, ain't nobody gonna be able to stop you? 465 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: And then not to start doing it all the time. Man, 466 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: The dope. Part that you said is that happened after 467 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 3: year two. 468 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: We expect so many high draft picks to come in 469 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: the league now from day one to be polished and produced. 470 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: It takes time to get good. Yeah, take time. Everybody's 471 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: not gonna be good. 472 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, You come out because you 473 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 4: got to understand everybody up here is good too. 474 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 475 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: You're playing against college players with college players. How many 476 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: college good college players you're gonna play against. You're gona 477 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: play against one or two every now and then, and 478 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 4: then you're gonna play against them in the NCAA tournament. 479 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: That's it. 480 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: So when you get to here, we need the same 481 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 4: skilled as you, and we're probably even better than you. 482 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 4: So now you're gonna work against us all the time. 483 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: So how you gonna do it? How you gonna be 484 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: that way? And that's what it was. And then you know, 485 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 3: in my era, I was going against a lot of people, 486 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: a lot of dogs. 487 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: Man, they had people at it everything that the worst 488 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: dog I ever played with, and he was strong, was 489 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 4: Miss Richmond. 490 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: He changed because he he. 491 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 4: Got me away from being on the Sacramento started putting 492 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 4: him on me instead of point guards. 493 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: And he was bigger and he used to. 494 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: Pound me a lot, so he made me a little 495 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 4: bit different and then he can come down and score. 496 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: See what I'm saying. 497 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: So I was always taking the challenge to go play him, 498 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 4: but he was wearing me down. So it was like, 499 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: that's what I wanted to do, man, And I just 500 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: wanted that challenge every day. 501 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: I wanted a challenge. 502 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 4: Who was your best point guard? Mess up John Stockton 503 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: by far. He was just a little bit more crafty. 504 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 4: Everybody thought he was dirty, but he was just stupid. 505 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: We just didn't know how to plane. It took me 506 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: six years of figuring him out. And then when I 507 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: figured him out, when we beat him in the Western 508 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 4: Conference finals, I figured him out. 509 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 3: I figured out I can't. 510 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: Keep doing the same thing I do with him and 511 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 4: try to overmatch him. I got to play the same 512 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 4: way he played, and I gotta just every time I 513 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: pound him, he'll fall and take a charge. 514 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: Then I started saying, no, I know he gonna hit. 515 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: He gonna think I'm a hit him twice, but I'm 516 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: gonna hit him one time and I'm ana step off 517 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 4: and then to shoot a jumper in his face and 518 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: do everything and then face him up and go around him. 519 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: He couldn't deal with me that day. 520 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: And then when I figured him out, it was a 521 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 4: little bit different. And then, you know, like everybody know today, 522 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 4: I idolized him a lot, you know what I'm saying. 523 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: He's like one of my best friends, and you know, 524 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: and it was just I really love playing against players 525 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 4: like that, you know what I'm saying, because it got 526 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 4: me more of an IQ of the game. And I 527 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 4: John Stock and Tim Hardaway, Kevin Johnson, Rod Strickland, Mookie Blaylock, 528 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: people like that. 529 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: I wanted to play against men, you know what. 530 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying, because they gave me more game and maybe 531 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 4: more of a basketball player for sure. 532 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: For sure. We got to talk about Oakland. 533 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, like we said, you know what I'm saying, it's 534 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: a lot down to point guards come out of Oakland. 535 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 536 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: Obviously y'all had a conversation recently on another podcast and 537 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: y'all was talking about top guards in Oakland and we 538 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: brung up Dame Lillard, Jason Kidd and you and I 539 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: went with Dane. That's my that's my class. That's the 540 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: guys I grew up playing against. I think Simba said 541 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: symbol symbol might have he said kid, he said he. 542 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: Everybody else says you right, and I've seen what you said. 543 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: Your response, I love for you to elaborate a little 544 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: more response. I see the ship, but you where you 545 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: really start because obviously, y'all, dame my guy. 546 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: You know Dan, that's our guy. 547 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: But when you started breaking down, like hold on, I 548 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: averaged twenty points. 549 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 3: The simple was over there said like yeah, because people forget. 550 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: Any hog what you're said. People forgot how score. People 551 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 4: think about my defense. Yea, y'all gotta understand, man, I 552 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 4: was scoring like for eight straight years. I was scoring 553 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: over twenty points a game. I feel what I'm saying, 554 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 4: and then I was getting down, locking down people and 555 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 4: then averaging eight assist in three steals. 556 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 3: Got to understand that that's that's where the game goes. 557 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 4: And people don't understand I scored over like twenty one 558 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: thousand points. 559 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: People forget that. They overlooked that. 560 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 4: But what I say is about my two youngsters, right, Jay, 561 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 4: I raised him. 562 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Y'all gotta understand. 563 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 4: Jay didn't start scoring until the end of the years 564 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 4: of his career, right, so if we break it down, 565 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: Jay is a better passard than me. You feel what 566 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Defender he's not. You know what I'm saying, 567 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 4: Score he's not. But he's a great IQ guy. You 568 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Dame is my youngster. You know 569 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. We can't put Dame in that situation 570 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 4: right now because he's not fulfilled all the things that 571 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 4: he's done. 572 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: But he's made his mark on the NBA as that 573 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 3: shooting and. 574 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 4: Scoring, and Dame is a little bit different to point 575 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 4: guard in us, you know what I'm saying, because this 576 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 4: era came a little different. It's about scoring here now, 577 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 4: it's not about passing. 578 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: The ball getting the other people into the game. 579 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 4: Jason was a better rebounder than both of us, you 580 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it's a little bit different 581 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 4: than what we do. Damed and steal the ball like 582 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 4: we stole the ball. So it's a little different than 583 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 4: what we're talking about eras it's an era thing. I 584 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: get everybody has their opinion about a lot of stuff, 585 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: but I just say where they're from. 586 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: From Oakland, you know what I'm saying. And she agreed. 587 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 3: We breathe that, and that's just the way we're different. 588 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: I'm the o G. 589 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So we did a little different. 590 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 4: You guys didn't watch me as much, but just know 591 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 4: who I am. 592 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Y'all watch me as much. 593 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 3: It'll be like that. But it was light you're talking 594 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: about overall is like you said, because I played. I 595 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 3: played against him? Why and I understand that. 596 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 4: I always tell people it's about an era what y'all did. 597 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 4: That's why I don't like people to ask me about 598 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: a goat, because a goat ain't gonna work for me 599 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: because y'all didn't play at the same time as each other. 600 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 4: So I can't tell you about a goat. You know 601 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. All of us was good. 602 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, So you just think about stats. 603 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: That's why people go with a goat. They think about stats. 604 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 3: They say, oh, you want this, you want that? Man? 605 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: But did he play against him? Did he get down 606 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: at him like that? Now they didn't. 607 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: Then too many play against Larry Bird, one of the 608 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: coldest little motherfuckers I ever seen him on what what 609 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 4: what you're talking about? 610 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: You know I'm just saying, man, you know, we didn't. 611 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 4: Play against Wilt Chamblin and Kareem or dul Jabor who 612 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 4: couldn't stop a skyhooking, and and and and Will Chamblin. 613 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 3: Everybody bringing Will Chamber's records. 614 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 4: Feel me, they bringing all these records and they talk 615 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 4: about Eves and the seas or whatever. Well, he was 616 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 4: twenty two, twenty one, Silver was the same. You know 617 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So we don't do goats here, man, 618 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: I don't you know what I'm saying. 619 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 3: I don't do goats. 620 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: So, but the what the point guard thing in Oakland, 621 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: them three was pretty good. We were us three was 622 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 4: pretty damn. 623 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: Basketball. 624 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 4: And we and two of us is in the Hall 625 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: of Fame and top seventy five. Dame is already on 626 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: top seven five. He's gonna be in the Hall of Fame. 627 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 4: We're doing the thing. You know, Dame might be might 628 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 4: score more points in both of us, But it is 629 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 4: what it is, you know what I'm saying. And I 630 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: think when they go to New York and say that 631 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: stuff about the point gods, you know, we got the 632 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: point guards over. 633 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: Here in this West Another it's a trio like that 634 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: L a l A got some point guards the top 635 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: seventy five. 636 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: But I'm saying. 637 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 4: If the two made the top seventy five, b D 638 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: is is about is my youngster? If he would have 639 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 4: got hurt, it would have been you know what I'm saying. 640 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: But if we all three, if we played them three and. 641 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 4: Have been about yes, saying understand though Paul Pierce is 642 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 4: from Oakland, California too. He was born in Open California, 643 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 4: So we got another time. Yeah, Paul, Yeah, what's that? 644 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Paul Piers and grew up 645 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: around around the corner from me. I grew up with 646 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 4: his brother and now he moves from Oakland. When he 647 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 4: was eleven, I. 648 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 3: Can't talk Paul my yeah, I tell it ain't known 649 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 3: like Hill like. He ain't no l a boy. He 650 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: grew up eleven. So let me let me break it down. 651 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: That's the whare the game go? 652 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: You feel? So? 653 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we got a lot of top seventy five yeahs, 654 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 655 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 3: So you was a. 656 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 6: Blending Vice's signature dynamic storytelling with the high octane world 657 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 6: of sports. Vice Sports brings an exciting and diverse range 658 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 6: of programming that goes beyond the game, catch action packed 659 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 6: live events, and exclusive sports documentaries and profiles only on 660 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 6: Vice TV. 661 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: Who like showed you the way coming up in Oakland, 662 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: Like who put the ball in your hands? 663 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: My daddy? Really, you guys. 664 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: Get my daddy coached everybody were talking about everybody. 665 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: Every one of these guys y'all. 666 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: Y'all were talking about my daddy coaches and touched hands 667 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 4: on So they brought me into that. I really, I 668 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: really idolized George Gervin, who is my stepdad now like 669 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: my step pops to now. 670 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: But that's coming up in the hood and Oakland. 671 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 4: My daddy was the one who put hands on me 672 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: and touched me, you know, and he touched a lot 673 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 4: of them. He coached Jay you know, Dame came a 674 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: little too later because he was in a later but 675 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: he played against my daddy and my daddy's scenes and 676 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 4: stuff like that. 677 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: But that was it. 678 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: You know. 679 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: You gotta understand. 680 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 4: We had b Shaw, Yeah, Antonio Davis there, Greg. 681 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: Falls, we had all them. 682 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 4: Cliff Robinson a player y'all forgot. Bill Russell was from Oakland. 683 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 4: Paul Solis is from Oakland. You done have a lot 684 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 4: of basketball player. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 685 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: You know that, don't part about that. This that's Pops. Yeah, 686 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: in the city, bro, everybody heard. 687 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 4: Heard about his dad a lot man. He reminds me 688 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 4: of my dad a lot. Your dad reminds me. 689 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: Of my dad a lot man. 690 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: And my dad did the same thing. So, but you know, 691 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: it wasn't just about basketball, my pops. 692 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: My pops. 693 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: You score around the school and the DC dudes shooting 694 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: dice over there, and you say, oh, go there go 695 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 4: my daddy's They go, Miss Page's white white, uh, escalator whatever. 696 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: Whatever. Let's jump over fence and get up. Body help 697 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: because he's gonna get at us. You know what I'm saying. 698 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: My daddy put life in a lot of people. Man. 699 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 4: He told them how to cook, told him how to 700 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: do every other things. And that's what I thought about 701 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: why I went into coaching now. While I coach young 702 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 4: guys now, because I want to make them men. Everybody 703 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: ain't gonna make it in basketball or profession. They got 704 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 4: to understand that their lives is be more and more 705 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 4: than sports. Their life is everything because they're gonna be. 706 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: A parent at one time too. 707 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: And you got to raise somebody, and that's what I 708 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 4: always tell them, and that's what that's why I got 709 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 4: into coaching because I want to tell them that and 710 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 4: understand that you can't always be who you want to be, 711 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: but you can be who you want to be a 712 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 4: different work in a different aspect. 713 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 714 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 4: You could be a lawyer, doctor or whatever and make 715 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 4: an impact on anybody's life. 716 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: And we got to understand that. Yeah, and that's what 717 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: you will take you as well. Big them up. He 718 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: coaches the Alma mater, you know what I'm saying. 719 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: So the impact you have on them kids, not even 720 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: from a basketball standpoint, just to show like you can 721 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: be something in life where you can move like you 722 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: can have these morals and be successful other avenues is 723 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: very important because we don't got that much representation our community. 724 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and that's what we got to always be big on. 725 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: When my daddy gave it to me, but then God 726 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 4: told him to pass it on to me and keep 727 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 4: it going, you know what I'm saying, Because we got 728 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 4: to catch these young kids because his mental health stuff 729 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: is really killing us right now. They don't know how 730 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 4: to respond to people and say yo, I know you 731 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 4: helping me. 732 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: Let me, let you help me. Let me tell you 733 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: about my. 734 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: Situation, because I can get a lot of these kids 735 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 4: out of their situations and get them into some help 736 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: programs and do the things that they have to do. 737 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: But you have to give them some support because none 738 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: of them really grew up like that. 739 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 4: They only grew up with a mama. Me and Jeff 740 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 4: grew up with a daddy. See, our daddy was a 741 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 4: big partner life. Most of the people didn't grow up 742 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: with the pops like that, So we got to understand that. 743 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: And most of my guys who I deal with didn't 744 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: grow up with daddy's like that. They grew up mamas 745 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 4: where they can go on the streets and do whatever 746 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 4: they wanted to do any time in their life. And 747 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: my daddy was there to take take responsibilities for him. 748 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 4: So we have to understand that. So we got to 749 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: give them that support. Got to get into it that. 750 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 2: I definitely want to ask you to uh Sean Kent 751 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: from our state. He's Indiana, you know. 752 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: What I mean, our court Indiana, Indiana? 753 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, right man, You know, I know all 754 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 2: of us want to ask you, man, how was that 755 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: playing with him? 756 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: Man? Like that was crazy, crazy, what a turn this out? 757 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: Real ship. 758 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 4: Listen, man, let me let me tell you all about that. 759 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: Everybody talk about this Live City. No no disrespect to 760 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: uh CP and them and all, like we were the 761 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 4: first ones with Love City. Me and Sean was the 762 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 4: first one to get it like that. You know what, 763 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 4: I'm playing with him for seven years was amazing. Me 764 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 4: and him are partners now in the cannabis business and 765 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: all that stuff I see shot on a regular basis. 766 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: Man, and playing with. 767 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 4: Him and becoming a friend with him is more important 768 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: than that. That's how a chemistry comes together, and that's 769 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 4: how we did it. And people just don't understand I think, 770 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 4: And I always tell Sunnis, I said, if we wouldn't 771 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: have got our ego messed up and his ego messed up, 772 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 4: if he would have stayed with me more years, he'll be. 773 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: A Hall of Fame by now. 774 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Because we'd have made a 775 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 4: bigger dynasty than what we did. We were one of 776 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 4: the two warner one or one of the greatest duos 777 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: ever played with each other. And what I think, and 778 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: I'm trying to get him in the Hall of Fame 779 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 4: now for what he's done with me, you know what 780 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I just think I had a blessing 781 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: to play with a person with that much talent because 782 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 4: I can just throw the ball up to him and 783 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: he would go get it anywhere. But people don't understand 784 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 4: how good he was with the basketball and shooting in 785 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 4: the mids, in the mid in the mid range game 786 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 4: and his back to the basket. He was a beast, 787 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And so people didn't really 788 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 4: understand that about how much freak ability he had. Man, 789 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying. He had a freak ability 790 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 4: that nobody really really knew that he had. But if 791 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 4: you see it every time y'all watch the highlights of 792 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 4: all our games, he did some stuff that was so 793 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 4: incredible to me. 794 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 3: Man. I used to be like, Wow, you know I'm 795 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 3: playing with this this dude. We used to see the 796 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: lobs you do it? Yeah, yeah, I usually you used 797 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: to always tell me. 798 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 4: He's always telling me, Man, give me a challenge today, Man, 799 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 4: throw it somewhere where I own. 800 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: You don't think I'm gonna go get it. And I 801 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: was just throw it up there and he'll go get it. 802 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 3: Was that instant chemistry though it was. It was what 803 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: happened was in eighty nine. 804 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 4: I was in college and he was just coming out 805 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 4: right and Sonny's drafted him and they wanted the point guard. 806 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 4: And then Bernie Bickerstaff see me, and he said, I 807 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 4: think this is a kid that we're gonna get. So 808 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 4: he started telling Sean to watch me, and Sean started 809 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 4: watching me. And I was in college. They hit me 810 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 4: in every now and then, and then they they didn't 811 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 4: have a chance to get me at all, you know 812 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then all of a sudden they 813 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 4: food around and didn't make the playoffs and then got 814 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 4: lottery and their balls was a chance of what Dallas 815 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 4: was this year they get the cool flags. Their chances 816 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 4: were twelve percent to get the number two pick or 817 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 4: the number one pick, and they food around and got 818 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 4: the number two pick. Wow, And I knew I wasn't 819 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 4: gonna go no lord and one or two. And New 820 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 4: Jersey wanted me, but they wanted a point guard and 821 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 4: a big man. And Derrick Coleman was coming out. And 822 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 4: then Kenny andershonw was gonna come out next year. So 823 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 4: I went and told him, don't drafted you can get 824 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 4: Kenny the next year. So I wanted to go to Seattle. 825 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 4: So they drafted Derrick Coleman and then I went, I 826 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 4: went number two to Seattle. 827 00:35:52,640 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he was a part of the bullshit. Ear real, bro. 828 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: Hein't no way Dallas get that big it happens, man, 829 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: Hey man, they crucified my boy and go man man 830 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: because he he traded Lucas Man. But then all of 831 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, the batn't even worse when all the mothers 832 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: got all them injuries, and then all of a sudden, 833 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 1: big bang bang. I went into one of them all 834 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: crazy Litton. 835 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 3: Man, pay ten dollars and got a lottery. What I do? 836 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: I get. 837 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 4: Hit for that billion. 838 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 3: And got the boy boy boy man. 839 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: Listen, that's one of my favorite NBA moments, man, that 840 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: they showing that draft from. 841 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm like they cheating. Ain't no way it's supposed 842 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 3: to happen. No way it's supposed to happen. Bing along, 843 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 3: I knew. 844 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 4: He was going to a whack team, a team that 845 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 4: was going to be losing, and all of a sudden, 846 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: I said, man. 847 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 3: You get the at the lottery and hit the lot 848 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 3: and then those teams are at the bottom of the lottery. 849 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: He their chances were z it's. 850 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: Not fair that zero Dallas to get that pick, and 851 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: they went to the finals last year. 852 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 3: That was in the finals, they lost to Boston. 853 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, But you know what I 854 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 4: feel for my boy Jay Kidd as a head coach, 855 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 4: I love it. And then I feel for Nico Man. 856 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 4: Nico was my rep at Nike. That's like a little 857 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 4: brother than me. Man. He always looked up to me 858 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 4: like that. So I feel for him because what he took. 859 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. People don't understand. 860 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 4: He's the president general manager. He can't make them calls 861 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 4: on his own. Owner has to make that call. He 862 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 4: can't just say I'll make the call because he's gonna 863 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 4: get He's going to get fired. So all you fans 864 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 4: out there messing out him like that, get up out 865 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 4: of here with that. 866 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 3: He wasn't his call. Man make that decision. 867 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 4: He made a decision on what he was told to 868 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 4: do or what it was it was supposed to be done, 869 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 4: and that's what they did. 870 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 3: So I'm happy for him. What's gonna happen? 871 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 4: You get Kyrie back after this injury man, which he'll 872 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: probably come back in January or something like that and 873 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 4: they'll be rolling. They'll make it up there, make a 874 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 4: thing ad come back. What it is, get all the 875 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 4: guys get. 876 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 3: Healthy, because if their whole team get healthy, it's gonna 877 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 3: be a beast. That it's gonna be a beast. 878 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: Speaking of the finals, and we all watched the last dance, 879 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: I want to ask you on this show, how did 880 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: they feel knowing you going to the finals against Michael Jordan. 881 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 3: In ninety six? 882 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 4: That was great man. You remember I got on I 883 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 4: got on cover Sports, illustrating and saying mission impossible. I 884 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 4: just won the Defensive Player of the Year, first point 885 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 4: guard they ever do it, And it was just something, 886 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 4: but people didn't know. I got hurt. I tore my 887 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 4: cat muscle and I and I really would and couldn't move. 888 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 4: What I did was I went in there and they 889 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 4: found to a solution. They found a little miracle miracle 890 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 4: thing to do. They got my leg better. I wrapped 891 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 4: it up a little bit and then all of a sudden, 892 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 4: you know, it's a miracle, you know. So then I 893 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 4: started playing and I started feeling better and better and better. 894 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 4: Then we got down too much and then I just 895 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 4: start saying, let me guard it. And he was averaging 896 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 4: thirty three at the time, and then I started making 897 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 4: it a pest for him. I started making it a 898 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 4: pest for him, and then I broke it down to 899 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 4: twenty three. And then what coaches do? They knew I 900 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 4: started becoming a problem, so they had to make to 901 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 4: solve the problem. 902 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: What do you do? You solve the problem? 903 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 4: So Jordan was taking it personal with me, which I 904 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 4: wanted to happen. And then you know, Phil Jackson said, nah, 905 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 4: let me put somebody. 906 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 3: Bigger on him and distract him and make it a 907 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 3: problem for him. 908 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 4: And he put Pipping on me. And Pipping is a 909 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 4: bigger player than me. He was six seven, he could 910 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 4: be He's mobile. He was there, and it was taking 911 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 4: a toll on me. Took a real toll on me 912 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 4: to try to score and guard Jordan at the same time. 913 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 3: And it took a toll on them. 914 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 4: And then by the time the sixth game came, we 915 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 4: had broke it down the three to two. 916 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 3: That six game came on, I got a little fatigue, 917 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And they took us out. 918 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It is what it is. 919 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: It just took us out the game. 920 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: But it was just good Buffy, who fast to see that, 921 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: Like that's a hell of a matchup, like to hold 922 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: y'all against one of the players that we called it 923 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: go like you said, that situation, that just got. 924 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 3: To be dope for you in that moment. It's like, 925 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 3: I'm here. You know what. 926 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 4: It was easy for me because of my mindset. I 927 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 4: thought it was always I wanted to play against all 928 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 4: the time. You remember they were seventy two and ten. 929 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 4: We were sixty four and eighteen. Y'all forgot that we 930 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 4: were the number two team in the league at the time, 931 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 4: and we beat them. We beat them out of that 932 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 4: one tent out of that ten. So it was like 933 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,479 Speaker 4: I just wanted the competition. I just wanted to play 934 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 4: the bast You know what I'm saying. I don't straight 935 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 4: away from nobody, man, when I play. My daddy always 936 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 4: told me, man, let ain't broken and off, get on 937 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 4: the floor and get it. And that's what I did. 938 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 4: I just went and got it. And he was always 939 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 4: the one to take the competitive to me. 940 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 3: I love it. 941 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, how did you respond when you see him laugh? 942 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: Like I know you are. You probably was laughing too, I. 943 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 3: Laugh right, I said it is. I wouldn't even Jeff. 944 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even respected him if he didn't say that. 945 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't even respected him to say anything like that, 946 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 4: unless because it's his it's his documentary. 947 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care. Man. We all knew what the 948 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 3: game was and Rusher was whoever. Whatever, it's good, we 949 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 3: knew what it was. Nah. Listen, man, o g We 950 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 3: are honored. Man. 951 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: We appreciate you pulling up on this. Man, it's been 952 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: a pleasure. Listen, man, we can't wait. Some things in 953 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: the works. Man, we can't wait to see that happens. 954 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 3: Man. We ain't gonna say too much. You know what 955 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yes, you know I got it. I got 956 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 3: it all getting it. You know what I'm saying. 957 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get it man, anytime I want me on 958 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 4: this five twenty club, I'm with y'all. Man, do it 959 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 4: a club five twenty Man, y'are doing a great job. 960 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,439 Speaker 3: I told you. I respect y'all to the fullest. Man. 961 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 3: This is what I want to see and young guys 962 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 3: like y'all. 963 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 4: Man, get it, man, do what y'all want to do. 964 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 4: Man and they always. Man, set a mark for yourself. Man, 965 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 4: always when you lead something special with you, Jeffy playing 966 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 4: in the league, do your thing. Man, keep doing this 967 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 4: with your boys. Hook it up, man, do it and 968 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 4: tell y'all need me. 969 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: Halla Mobile Club five twenty out. 970 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 971 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: The volume