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Speaker 1: here's your host, super Bowl forty eight champion, Robert Turbin.

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Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? What's up? Everybody's you want to know?

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Speaker 1: Only your boy turbo In for another episode of Seahawks Stories.

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Speaker 1: Very special guest. You may know him if you're from

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Speaker 1: and Bob Showing seven ten YEARSPN Dave Woman, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show today. Good to be here. Man. I like here.

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Speaker 1: I like the background there. You got lots of jerseys

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Speaker 1: going there. Yeah. No, I appreciate. I appreciate that. It's

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. Um, well, let's get right into it.

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Speaker 1: You were you know, it's funny. I want to say

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Speaker 1: Wyman and Bob Show. I've come on as a guest

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Speaker 1: a bunch of times, and you and Bob have interviewed

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Speaker 1: But I didn't never realize that you played football at

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Speaker 1: And that's really what intrigued me about having you on

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Speaker 1: coming on. You grew up in Reno and man want

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Speaker 1: My dad was in the logging business. I was born

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Speaker 1: who has the ball at the end. But like I said,

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00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: there was a referee there that blew it dead. So

428
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, let's go. And I was celebrating

429
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: with all my teammates and everything, and then turn around

430
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: and look at what's going on. It was just chaotic.

431
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: That's unbelieving the fact that he just came into the

432
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: locker room and said you lost. I'll tell you a

433
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: funny story really quick. My brother was my brother. The

434
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: reason why I didn't make in the NFL's because he

435
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: couldn't run, but he could take on anybody. Like I

436
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: loved playing behind him because he would just crush guards.

437
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: So he has his full helmet mouthpiece in and he's

438
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: sitting there because he got in a fight coming off

439
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: the field. He's sitting there and all of a sudden

440
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: they come in and say you lost. My brother walks

441
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: over to this door and I swear it's like a

442
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: nine foot door and it's about two and a half

443
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: three inches thick. My brother goes up to the door

444
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: and headbuts it, and it knocks it off its hinges,

445
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: and then that thing slams on the concrete floor. Everybody

446
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 1: just went quiet, And I remember one of the coaches

447
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: comes up to me and he goes, hey, you better

448
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: go get a hold of your brother. He's gone crazy.

449
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: And I said to the coach, I said, I'm not

450
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: going anywhere near him, and I suggest you stay away

451
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: from him too. If anybody knows my brother, it's me,

452
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: you know exactly. All right, Well, let's let's dive into

453
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: your professional career. You get drafted in the second round,

454
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: forty fifth overall by the Seattle Seahawks, and uh, you know,

455
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: we all know that the draft process can be you know,

456
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: this unusual feeling, you know for guys where you just

457
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: you have an indication of where you might go, but

458
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: you just never really know how it's going to turn out.

459
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: You know, did you expect to go on the second round?

460
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: Did you expect to go hire? How was that draft

461
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: process for you? Yeah? It's where It'll keep this really

462
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: short because it's I told the story before, but I

463
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: was talking to the Chargers and they had a first

464
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: round pick that was like twenty seven, twenty six something

465
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: like that. I did get worked out by the Seahawks,

466
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: like the Giants and the and the Redskins at the time.

467
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: Told me they were the ones that worked at a

468
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: draft meet, like I said earlier. But I heard a

469
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: story from Jim Mora. He was a like a quality

470
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: control guy or the Chargers, and he told me there

471
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 1: was a huge argument when the Chargers picked that one

472
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: guy wanted me and the other guy wanted a guy

473
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: named Rod Bernstein, and they had this big fight and everything,

474
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: and you know, the clock was taken down and they're

475
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: screaming and yelling at each other, and I guess the

476
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: owner finally stepped in and goes take Bernstein. And I

477
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: heard that story. Yeah, I heard that story. I used

478
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: to go back down to San Diego where you were

479
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: from that exactly. You know, I probably would have I'd

480
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: probably be in San Diego right now, not in Seattle certainly.

481
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: So Yeah, and that kind of freaked me out because

482
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: and every year when I see kids getting drafted, I'm like,

483
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: your whole life is being determined in some room like that,

484
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 1: you know, with guys arguing and you know, deciding who

485
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: to take. So every draft day, I think, these kids,

486
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: because I come to Seattle, I'll pass forward ahead. We'll

487
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: get to it later. But you know, I married a Seagal,

488
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: you know, I my family moved up here. I mean,

489
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: the whole course of my life. I always say this,

490
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: I would have different kids, you know, if I've gotten

491
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: drafted by the Chargers. So, yeah, that was weird. But

492
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know where I was gonna go. I kind

493
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: of thought the Chargers. But then when the Packers were picking,

494
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: I think and at the time that wasn't a desirable

495
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: place to be that I got a phone call and

496
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: it was the Seahawks. And so the late great Russy Tillman,

497
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: who just passed away last year. He was the linebacker

498
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: coach and special team coach that came and worked me

499
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: out at Stanford. And so yeah, headed to headed to Seattle.

500
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: And you know, at that time, I didn't know, just

501
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: like you, Robert, you don't know how much your life

502
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: is gonna change and how drastically it's gonna you know,

503
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: like everything moved to Seattle, and I've been here pretty

504
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: much ever since. Yeah, well, Seattle wasn't the only place

505
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: that you played, right, And I mean Seattle was the beginning,

506
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: and you've played with some fantastic defensive players, Kenny Eisley

507
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: and those guys. I mean, you guys had one of

508
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: the top defenses in the league. And I know you

509
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of stories of you know, some

510
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: of those guys that you play with. So we'll have

511
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: to have a part two. But I do want to

512
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about your departure from Seattle and

513
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: going and playing in Denver and having an opportunity to

514
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: be with the Broncos for a period of time in

515
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: your career. You know, how was that transition like for you?

516
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Was it? You know? Was it? Uh? You know, sometimes

517
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: you leave teams not on great terms, you know, and

518
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: so did you leave Seattle on good terms before going

519
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: to Denver? And then when you got to Denver? How

520
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: was your experience there? Yeah, a good, good question. I

521
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: mean we were two and fourteen that year as a

522
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: Seahawks in ninety two, and my contract was up, and

523
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: so the reason I went to Denver. How I got

524
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: attention there is that Jack Elway, who was my head

525
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: coach at Stanford, and John was there obviously, but Jack

526
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: was there in their personnel department. And I was coming

527
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: off an injury. I missed the last six games of

528
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: the ninety two season the foot injury. So they needed

529
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: a linebacker really bad. And Jack, you know, kind of

530
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: went to bat for me and said, look, and this

531
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: is the first year of free agency, so um, yeah,

532
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: first year every yeah, the first year of Yeah. It

533
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: was called Plan B free agency, which I went on

534
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: strike for in nineteen eighty seven, a rookie year. That's

535
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: what that strike was all about. We won the right

536
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: to have free agency. So yeah, and so when Denver

537
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: offered me a contract, the Seahawks weren't going to match it.

538
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: I remember Tom Flores when he saw the contract, he said,

539
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money for David, and I was like, okay, coach, No,

540
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: it was yeah. I mean it was at the time,

541
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: and it was because of the free agency deal. So

542
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this though. You know the thing I

543
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: would say about like for guys like Trey Flowers, you know,

544
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: I hope, you know, I love that kid, and I

545
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: really hope the best for him. You know, he goes

546
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati, but go to a new place. It's like,

547
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, I was a clean slate in Denver and

548
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: and By the way, I had. My best year as

549
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: a pro was my first year in Denver. Played in

550
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: every game, played in the playoff game, you know, did

551
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: build up every category, just was playing great football. And

552
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that was that, you know,

553
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: the coaches in Seattle, they know your past, they know

554
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: what you can't do, right, they know, oh yeah, you

555
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: know what the story is on him. He does this

556
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: or he doesn't do that. I go to see or

557
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: Denver and it's like, I said, a clean slate. They're like,

558
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: let's see what this guy can do. And the more

559
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: I played, the more Wade Phillips like the things that

560
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: I brought to the defense and allowed him to have

561
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: a There was a guy there that wasn't great at

562
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: assignments and stuff, so I was on the field with

563
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: him and would you know, kind of help him out.

564
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: And so yeah, all those things developed and everything was positive,

565
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: right because I didn't have this track record, and especially

566
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: back then, you know, there wasn't as much information availing stuff.

567
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was my best year as a pro.

568
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: And I always think that when whenever guys leave and

569
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: go to a new place, you know, the new setting

570
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: kind of comes along with that. No you don't bring

571
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: any baggage with you. All right, last question here, and

572
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a two part question just because man, gosh,

573
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: I wish we had more time. Um, how do I

574
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm good here, I'm good. Actually, I gotta I gotta

575
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: get out, you know, head into my radio show here,

576
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: but we got a few minutes. So well, I was

577
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: gonna say you did transition into broadcast radio, uh and

578
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: and and doing some of the things that you're doing now.

579
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: I think you started as a color analyst in two

580
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen yea, and then you started doing the

581
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: the the Wyman and Bob Show on on on seventeen YEARESPN.

582
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: And so I just wanted to, you know, ask about

583
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: where your interests came from and in wanting to be

584
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: a broadcaster and the list and things like that. And

585
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: then really the first part to that question is after

586
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: leaving Denver, you had your best year your first year

587
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: in Denver. After leaving Denver, what brought you back to

588
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: Seattle as opposed to perhaps staying in Denver. Yeah, Well,

589
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: my parents and my brother both moved to Seattle and

590
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: we started a business together, so they were here. My

591
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: wife is from Edmonds, so she had all of her

592
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: family here. So yeah, Denver was just and it ended.

593
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: You know, the first year I said, I played my

594
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: best football. It was nothing but injuries for ninety four

595
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: and ninety five, and so at the end of ninety five,

596
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't pick up my contract and didn't

597
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: even offer me to come back to camp. And I

598
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: didn't think it was over Turball. I mean, you know

599
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: how it is, you. I just I was hanging on too.

600
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: I felt like, there's no way they can play an

601
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: NFL season without me. Come on, I mean, what's going

602
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: on here? So I tried for two years to get

603
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: I worked out in ninety six and even in ninety

604
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: seven and try to get on with the Packers and

605
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: finally realized, Okay, I'm done. So I went and got

606
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: a job as a financial analyst at Merrill Lanch. I

607
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: hated football, you know, because they put on me. Right,

608
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: I always say, I didn't retire. They did the NFL

609
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: at the time, it was all thirty teams, So yeah,

610
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to do something that was totally opposite of that.

611
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: But actually I had a conversation with Rabel one time

612
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: and I actually started on the pregame show like Like

613
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: You in two thousand and four. And then you know,

614
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: then I started, you know, developing. I did that for

615
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: probably four or five years. Then ESPN came to town

616
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: and I just had my ten year anniversary at seven

617
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: ten ESPN Seattle in the afternoon show, and you know,

618
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: I just it was a way for me to get

619
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: into it. I thought about coaching, I thought about scouting,

620
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: but you know, that's a lot of time away from

621
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: your family. And I had kids that I was at

622
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: that time. So the media was great. You know. I

623
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: never thought I'd be a media guy, you know, because

624
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: I used to not love the media a lot of times.

625
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, but it was a way to keep me involved.

626
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: And then the Seahawks, you know, I mean Dave Pearson,

627
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: who's you know, vice president, director of communications and everything.

628
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he was an intern in nineteen eighty nine,

629
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I've known Dave for you know, thirty

630
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: plus years, so um, you know, and then they've always

631
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: been incredibly loyal, incredibly loyal to me, and I so

632
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: appreciate that this is a great franchise to work for.

633
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm talking. I'm not trying to you know,

634
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: do some kind of advertisement. It just is it's just

635
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: about loyalty. And there's people like Sandy Gregory who just retired,

636
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: Paul John's Eric Kennedy. I mean e k was the

637
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: head equipment guy. He was a ball boy at like

638
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old ball boy from Lake Washington High

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Speaker 1: By the way, when Rabel was calling the games when

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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's cool that we're together in the

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, awesome story. Man, Well, Dave, thank you for

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Speaker 1: the stories that you share with this. We have to

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Speaker 1: do a part two because I feel like there's so

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Speaker 1: much more in there that we can bring out. His

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Speaker 1: You're on Seahawks Stories, and next time I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you questions because I want to hear about Turbo and

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Speaker 1: your your journey. But yeah, maybe we can have to

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Speaker 1: have me on one of your shows. Then, Hey, anytime, man,

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Speaker 1: You're always welcome on arm show. All right, thanks everyone

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Speaker 1: the other episodes that we've done. Thank you again for

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Speaker 1: everybody who has listened to this episode. And we'll beat

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